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We have red letters now here at the bottom. 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I noticed that I changed the thoughts 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: a little bit in the color because I'm still fancy, 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: but fancy. Welcome to another week of Eyes up Here. Well, 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for having me today. Chat You're welcome. 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm great to have you. You know, it's always a 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: beautiful day here in Virginia. But what's going on in 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: your neck of the woods? I have BedHead today, rolled 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: out and came downstairs. Now I took a shower, but 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: the hair's a little damp, but I'm still suffering. Lost 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: another pound. Oh jeez, these these spacers are actually making 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: me fly over the cuckoo's nest. I'm going insane. They 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: are so painful, and I can't even tell you how 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: painful it is to chew. I'm going on two weeks 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: and I can't eat. I can't eat, and I'm miserable 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: and I'm just drastically losing weight and it's crazy. But 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I think you tweeted a picture the other day of 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: like what you were making soup that was It's like, 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine have even like if I had a 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: dental problem or so, I couldn't imagine just having all 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: liquid yea and no hard, solid crunch. Oh my gosh. 48 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: So is even when you talk, like, do you feel 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: the the apes when you speak? I do. It's it's 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: a It's it's that dull pain that never goes away. 51 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: Do you ever have a pain that just is constant? 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: My mouth has been this way for like two weeks now. 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: It feels like you have food stuff between your teeth, 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: Like when you eat a steak, you get a piece 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: of meat stuff. You have to get floss, you know. No, 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: it's there's eight pieces of meat stuff between my teeth. 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: And then when I bite down, it feels like I'm 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: biting a rubber and my teeth are actually bouncing off 59 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: each other. I can't get a good bite. So when 60 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to chew, I can't choose my food. I've 61 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: been trying to chew with my front teeth and I 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: look like a rabbit. I'm like, you know what I 63 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: mean exactly, And I'm just I tried to eat, like 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: the one day I tried to eat a chip file 65 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: at sandwich and that was a disaster. I couldn't do it. 66 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. So I've been eating soups 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: to for lunch. Hubs is gonna make me a protein shake. 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink that and probably have some soup for dinner, 69 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: and that's it. That's all I eat. How about mashed potatoes. 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: I could probably eat mashed potatoes, but the kids don't 71 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: eat mashed potatoes. Husbands or the diet he won't eat 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: mashed potatoes. My mom will eat like this much. So 73 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: if I make them, it's like I just have to 74 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: make it for me. And you know, eggs, maybe I 75 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: didn't even try it. Yeah, they would have to. I 76 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: guess they would have to be like scrambled or some 77 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: fried egg If you're feeling ever so inclined, you know, 78 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: to have walk on a wild side, get those two 79 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: pounds back with three pounds. Yeah, Well, eggs aren't that 80 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: many calories, So I don't you know, I'm just hoping 81 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: that on Monday when I go, he's gonna say, Okay, 82 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna take them all out. Now, the question I 83 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: had because I've never had braces before, are the bottom 84 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: ones in for a reason because I'm not getting braces 85 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: on the bottom for four to six months? So are 86 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: they going to bands or something? Or did we just 87 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: do this for shifts and giggles, like I think, I 88 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: think that. I think the latter. Well, I then guess 89 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: what my dentsis is going to get into earful because 90 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: I have been miserable. Don't brush your teeth, get back 91 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: at him. Don't brush your teeth that morning? Oh my god, Well, 92 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: you know what they had said, don't floss. I thought 93 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: they meant like where the bands were, right. I attempted 94 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: to floss and it was like a bloodbath. I couldn't 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: because they shifted so much. Now I noticed my bottom 96 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: teeth have moved and I couldn't get the floss between 97 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: the teeth without the bands. So I'm pushing and I'm bleeding, 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: and I said, oh, this is just a disaster. I 99 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: need to I feel so bad for you. I can't. 100 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear how it goes after Well, 101 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: maybe Wednesday. I'll check in with you. I'll give you, 102 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you a few days. But you know, like 103 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: we said, your dude is sit in the chair next Friday. 104 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see what the you know, the 105 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: revamped smile is going to. I can't my next Friday, 106 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: I know. And then they're like, well, my girlfriend. I 107 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: was talking to her yesterday and she's like, well, you know, 108 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: when you get these taken out and put the braces on, 109 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: that's a whole different level of pain. I said, damn, 110 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: but I think I can eat because they'll be on 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: the top and not you know, nothing will be you know, 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: preventing me from eating and chewing. So I just want 113 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: to eat. I'm a cranky bitch who wants a sandwich. Well, 114 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: well I believe it. I believe Yeah. So well let's see. 115 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: So that's Monday, we're recording Friday. Of course that's Monday. 116 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: So by next Friday will be five days in. I mean, 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: this could be a new, whole new You might not 118 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: be happy next Friday. You still might be in a 119 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: little bit of pain. I'm not happy now, but look 120 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: at me I have a smile on my face that 121 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm kid. I know how to turn it on when 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: I need to. Maybe we should have some dental based 123 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: content next week. Yeah. Although, hey, my little one lost 124 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: her first tooth the other night and I had to 125 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: leave the room because I can't be around the Oh 126 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: that's right. We talked about this last time. I would 127 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: a yank. That's sucker right out. You hear the pop 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: when it comes out. Oh man, I look, I came 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: downstairs and then she came and it's like the other 130 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: one's already like half grown behind it. Now, how did 131 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: it fall out? Did Liz have to pullis she had 132 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: to pull? It was hanging on by a thread. It 133 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: was it actually was nasty to get that the dangle 134 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: than it was after it came out. But yeah, I 135 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: know she was a trooper. It was Uh, it was good. 136 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Tooth Fairy came, took care of business. Oh tooth fairy. 137 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: It has been leaving lots of money tooth fairy has 138 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: tooth fairy. Tooth Fairy introduced her to Abraham Lincoln. It 139 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: was pretty Uh, you know, that's the first one, first one, 140 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: ser you know, first one special. That's a high. That's 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: a high dollar tooth there. I just want to point 142 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: out for I was just going to give you a 143 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: tip for a few let's hear it, because it's difficult 144 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to get the tooth from under the pillow it. Indeed, 145 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: so what I told my kids, because I'm brilliant, that 146 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: they have to put it in a baggie because the 147 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: tooth fairy doesn't want to mix up teeth. So when 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: they put it in a baggie, it's easy to grab 149 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the baggy and slide it from under the pillow, and 150 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: that gives the parent the opportunity to pretty brilliant. I'm 151 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: not going to nice now. You would think the tooth 152 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: fairy could be equipped with like DNA technology, so if 153 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: there was to be some sort of mix up of teeth, 154 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: all they have to do is test the tooth to 155 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: see who it belost it. Well, we don't discuss that 156 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: with the children. We just tell the children they need 157 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: to put it in a little baggie and then we 158 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: make the baggies brilliant the pillow and then you just 159 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: pull it brilliant rather than tussle them while they're trying 160 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: to sleep. Because in the beginning, it was like she 161 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: put the tooth in the middle of the pillow, so 162 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: my hand it's like trying to slide and get that 163 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: tooth out there. It's difficult. And then I was like, 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: there's to be an easier way, so put it in 165 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: a zip block and then just pull it out. You're 166 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: good to go. Mental note for for the next time. 167 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: I just want to point out before we have our 168 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: guests pop on. He's not on yet, but when he 169 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: comes on, I don't want to take up all the 170 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: time Later, I'm contemplating dropping think while he drinks Part 171 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: one and two as one full episode on creative Control 172 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: so that people see what they missed from like like 173 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: like a like a bonus for them just to see 174 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: what they missed because I have to reveal to you 175 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: was it hilarious? I kept well. I kept drinking after 176 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: we were done, and I had to count two shows 177 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: to record after we were done. Were you bombed? Oh? 178 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: I would By the last one. I was so out 179 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: of it commercation, so I did. I actually had Hughesy 180 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: came on and did my New Generation show. He was drinking, 181 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: so I was drinking still, and then I had the 182 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: Baseball one afterwards with a good buddy of mine who 183 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: I've gotten to know over the last year or so, 184 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: and I was trying so hard to focus. Oh my goodness, 185 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: that was It was unbelievable. But our guest is joyous. Hey, 186 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later on, but it was very funny. 187 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Here we go, we want to introduce some latiris. This 188 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: is a current r OH superstar, Matt Tavan. Everyone. Hello, 189 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: I did. I feel like I came in right in 190 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: the midst of a good story and I was ready 191 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: to hear the rest of it. And I feel like 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: I ruined everything in a nutshell. Last week we did 193 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: a Patreon we have a Patreon group here, and we 194 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: did a Drink While You Think, and so we were 195 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: drinking for an hour and playing a game and chat. 196 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry there was more drinking than thinking. Oh yeah. 197 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Chad proceeded to drink while he had two more podcasts 198 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: to film, and he was bombed because he just kept 199 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: consuming alcohol. So he was just telling me how drunk 200 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: he was by the third and I had to be 201 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: serious by the third one too, and it was so hard. 202 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: So I tried so hard to focus and there were 203 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: probably the best podcast as you ever did, because you 204 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: loosened up. I'm looking at it right here, I'm looking 205 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: at it. Sorry, on the left hand side. I have 206 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: the I went thirty five minutes in eight seconds, drunk, 207 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: stone faced, but drunk. Remember zero of it. I don't 208 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: remember a thing about what I talked about. I really don't, 209 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: but I was so I had like Wikipedia Baseball reference. 210 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: I had all these screens up to keep me like looking. 211 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: I was so guy. I have no idea. I can't 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: listen to it back because it's going to be embarrassing. 213 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: That is terrible. You should be ashamed of yoursel I'm sure. Matt. 214 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: First of all, I feel bad because we were Matt 215 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: and I were in Disney World at the same park 216 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: on the same day, wow, and we never crossed paths. 217 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I heard this. I only heard this as I was 218 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: exiting that you were there, and I was like, wait 219 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: a second, I let's go back in the park to 220 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: run into she Mary Kate. I believe you were with 221 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: a good friend of both of ours. She had sent 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: us a text, and I believe you guys were where 223 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: we had just left from and we just got the 224 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: kids snacks and we were exhausted and sweaty, and she's like, oh, 225 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: come back to the other side of the park. No, yeah, no, 226 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how you handle. I can barely manage 227 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: Disney World by myself with kids and stuff. I don't 228 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: know how you guys best let me tell you if 229 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: you ever, I don't know if you want children or not. 230 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: But when you got I'm sorry, that's okay to each 231 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the room. But when you go with your children and 232 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: you see things through their eyes, it is the most 233 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: rewarding feeling ever and it makes me so happy, and 234 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know, I love it. On the 235 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: other hand, I did go to Disney as a child 236 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: with my father and my and my grandfather, I believe, 237 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: and me and my cousin like went off to do 238 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: something and my dad was like, come back to this 239 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: very spot as soon as you're done. And of course 240 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: we didn't do that because we were kids. If we're 241 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: gone for about two and a half hours, and I'm 242 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure I caused my dad like to have a 243 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: heart attack that day. So, you know, the wonder of 244 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: children at Disney. In Disney, that's scary because there's a 245 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: million people there and if you hear mom, like when 246 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: I hear mom at Disney, Yeah, even if my kids 247 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: are next to me, I'm like, who said that? There's 248 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: eighty seven million children there? Like, is it my kid? 249 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: Is it someone else's kids? You don't know? Yeah, Well 250 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: back up, after being missing for about two and a 251 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: half hours with those giant turkey legs if they sell 252 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: at Disney, thinking like, no big deal, my dad leg 253 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: in your hand? Oh yeah, I'm like, I'm literally like 254 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: in fifth grade. It's just after being gone for two 255 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: hours with a giant turkey leg, my dad, I can 256 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: see from far away sweating pacing. I'm like, oh, oh, 257 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: we messed up right now? And were you? Oh? I 258 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: thought we were leaving. I thought we were never going 259 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: to come back. But you know, by the time we 260 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: got to the gate, I think my grandfather talked to 261 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: me out of being so bad. So what what normally 262 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: happens with all bad kids is that you're you're you're 263 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: forced to go to Epcot, you know what I mean. 264 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: I think that's what you're bad at Disney, You're forced 265 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: to go to Epcot. As an adult, I love Epcot, 266 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: but as like, please nothing but Epcott. I'd rather go 267 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: back to the hotel. But but back then, Epcot sucked. 268 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Now for kids. But I remember like back then it 269 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you want to learn go to Epcot, 270 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, And I didn't want to a good Epcot 271 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: trip after that. Yeah, you have a point. See, I 272 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: never went as a child. I never went to Disney 273 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: as a child. We went to Wildwood, New Jersey every 274 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: year for two weeks. That was our big vacation. I 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: went as an adult for the first time when I 276 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: was in a c W. Yeah, and fell in love 277 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: with it. And then, you know, ever since I got mad, 278 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: we just started going every single year. We go for 279 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: two weeks and that's our big, big deal. But I 280 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: felt so bad. I was like, man, if we weren't 281 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: here already for like six hours and the kids were 282 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: just melting, they were just sitting there with their popsicles 283 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: and melting, And I said, I totally would have ran 284 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: to say hello. So I apologize for that. No, no 285 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: worries at all. I don't know how you juggle kids 286 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: in Disney, so pulling that off, I love it. Are 287 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: you a big mark for Disney? Now as an adult, 288 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: I enjoy it so much more now you know, I'm 289 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: a theme park guy in general, Like as a kid, 290 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, a big trip for us was always to 291 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: go to a different theme park. I would go to 292 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: the Six Flags in New Jersey a bunch. They had 293 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: finally brought a six Flags up to New England, Busch 294 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: Gardens of West Virginia. But I have to say, like, now, 295 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, as far as the Florida theme parks go, 296 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: nothing touches Busch Gardens at Tampa. Are you a big 297 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: bowler coster? Yeah, that's exactly why. Like you know, the 298 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: coasters in that at that Busch Gardens, no one can 299 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: touch it. Like the experience obviously at Disney and Universal 300 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: is awesome. And like I went down Hollywood, are horror 301 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: nights at Universal so good? I'm so scared it's worth it. 302 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: It is awesome. I would need to depend. I would 303 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: crap my pants, there's my life, well, you know, pack 304 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: of diaper and head on down there for October because 305 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: I think it's definitely worth it, even for you know, 306 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: destroying a pair of pants or two. But I would 307 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: love to do it and blog it or go live 308 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: on Twitch, or do it for the site. Because I 309 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: am the biggest bab I hate Halloween. I'm not gonna lie, 310 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: like I know I hate it yet dresses up to 311 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: the complete, like highest extent with you know, makeup. I 312 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: do it for the people. I absolutely hate it. It's 313 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: not my deal, but I think it would be funny 314 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: if I did something like that, because my dream is 315 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: to live in Florida. Like that's what we're working on. 316 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: We want to relocate eventually, do it. And so I 317 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: want to I want to like leave wrestling and be 318 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: a blogger, you know, it's it's the way to go. 319 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean, more people are streaming and debuting stuff like 320 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: twitch than than anything else these days. It seems like 321 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I think people would would fall if you're that terrified 322 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: of Halloween. I think I will tune in for you 323 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: walking around Horror Nights down at Universal because they do 324 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: such a good job of it. It's uh, it's it's 325 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: not terrifying, I don't think, but it's for someone that 326 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: I think would be, you know, a little jumpy during Halloween. 327 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: I would be pretty entertained watching you walk through some 328 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: of those houses. It's not a little it's absolutely horrifying. 329 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: I can't I went in one harnted house my whole 330 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: life and we got kicked out. So it's not we 331 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: almost got kicked out. Of a haunted house in Vegas 332 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: one time as the Ring of Honor group and just 333 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: as a quick story, you know, they they had all 334 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: these people jump up and like grab you and whatnot, 335 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: and they had a little person in a costume and 336 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: come out of this tiny door and everyone thought it 337 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: was just like a mechanical thing. So one of the 338 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: guys like fake superkicked it, like slapped his n didn't 339 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: come close to it, but I guess on their cameras 340 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: it looked like someone just super kicked this little person 341 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: as we were walking through. So all sense security came 342 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: through and I had to be the dad of the 343 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: group and be like, oh no, we're wrestlers. He didn't 344 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: come anywhere close, please God. He took a lot of 345 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: money when we went through. I went through with like Tommy, 346 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: Dreamer and Sign guy Dudley and his girlfriend and it 347 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: was the four of us and the guy from Scream 348 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: with the white map, you know, that white pant had 349 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: a knife and he went like this to me and 350 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: he stabbed my arm like it's one of the that 351 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: goes in. Yeah. Yeah, he kind of got me, and 352 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: I remember Dreamer threatened him and while he was getting 353 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: threatened Jason, is he the one with the mask? He whispered, 354 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: in my ear, your friend's not that bright izzy, and 355 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: I turned around. I started calling a promo on him, 356 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: and they were just like, you have to leave through 357 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: this stuff, like this whole group out of here. I mean, 358 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like, you know, maybe we're 359 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: we're not as compatible as I thought. I have a 360 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: giant screen poster in my my theater room as I 361 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: uh literally, that face is the I love horror movies, 362 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: you know it's I love I Okay, I loved horror 363 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: movies until I became a mother. Now because the kid's eyes, no, 364 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: I envisioned bad things happening to my kids, like and 365 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: it's I think. And I thought I was crazy, but 366 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: I asked other mothers and they agreed with me. So 367 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: it's it's a mother thing. I can't watch horror anymore. 368 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: I was a big Trauma Mark too, Like I loved 369 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: Lloyd Kaufman and Trauma and I had like forty of 370 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: the movie sold the mall. I was like, I can't 371 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: watch it. No, it makes me very nervous. I guess 372 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: that's a little more understandable. See, I only have to 373 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: worry about myself. So I'm like, I got you all 374 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: our movies, well before we go into your career, because 375 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: I want to talk about roh. I want to know 376 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: the story because I just know this much. What is 377 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: the third boob story? And you know what I'm talking about. 378 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: You know what's funny is that I just moved to 379 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: a new place. So I was trying to actually when 380 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: I knew I was going to do this, trying to 381 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: find that photo so bad it must be still at 382 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: my parents' house in New Hampshire. But like, well, so 383 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Northeast. I grew up in Hampshire. 384 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: I lived in Boston after that, and you know we're 385 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: out of New Hampshire. Jerry, New Hampshire, so literally next 386 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: to the Ice and in Salem where you guys used 387 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: to come for ECW because my dad's from My dad 388 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: was from Manchester. Oh yeah, yeah, fifteen minutes up the road. Okay, 389 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: so I'm a New Hampshire guy and you know my dad, 390 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: I would talk him into driving me and my friends 391 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: to go see ECW, whether it was at you know, 392 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: at a beer at Wonderland or in Salem at the 393 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: Ice Center. And my dad's not a wrestling guy or fan. 394 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: He never understood why I loved wrestling so much. But 395 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: he would drop us off at ECW as like a twelve, thirteen, 396 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: fourteen year old kid, and he had no idea what 397 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: he was dropping us off at. So by the way, 398 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: he just thought it was wrestling, and he was in 399 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: a wrestling fan. So he was like, Oh, I'll pick 400 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: you guys up after the show or whatever, and I'll 401 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: never forget. Like one time in particular, Steve Carino had 402 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: threw his hair back and he was bleeding and he 403 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: just got blood all me and so like, my dad 404 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: picks me up. I'm like thirteen or fourteen. My dad 405 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: picks me up, I'm covered in sweat and blood and 406 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: I smell like someone's beer. That's where are what is 407 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: this that I'm dropping you guys off at? So you know, 408 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: my dad was already kind of weird now by ACW. 409 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: But then my mom put I put this picture up 410 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: that I happened to get at that show, and it's 411 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: literally me and you and you. All you could do 412 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: was like there was a table and they weren't letting 413 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: like me get right next to you, so you had 414 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: to like lean forward into the picture. So it's my 415 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: head as like a thirteen year old and you're cleavage, 416 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: So it just looks like like the size of my 417 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: head is the same as as as your boobs there. 418 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: So it's just like, you know, three boobs in a row. 419 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 1: And I had that like right up on top of 420 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: my you know, like my desk at or my dresser 421 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: at home. My mom was like, what are you guys 422 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: doing where? Probably said, what a pig girl. I'm like, 423 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: I was like coming home covered in blood pictures of 424 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: me and you you know, a lot of cleavage in 425 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: the picture. I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. 426 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: You guys don't understand. ECW is the best and so uh, 427 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: it's most memories from those shows have nothing to do 428 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: with the matches themselves. It always has to do with like, 429 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, things like that or like Tommy, I had 430 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: a WCW sucks sign one time because I thought it 431 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: was so cool. It was like a thirteen year old 432 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: and Tommy Dreamer like found me afterwards. It was like 433 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: I saw you walking around with your WCW sucks sign 434 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: and like, give me something else to sign. I'm not 435 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: going to sign that, And like it was just so cool. 436 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I saw Ball's mahone again a fight with a fan, 437 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: you know, this classic ECW stuff that. Yeah, Like I 438 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: can barely remember the matches themselves, but it was the 439 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: experience of always being something always went down at like 440 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Wonderland too and Revere that's where mass transit happened. Yet 441 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: where the dog braces were. Yes, yeah, yeah, so I 442 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: wasn't there for mass transit and uh but like after that, 443 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: everyone knew that that you know, was that had happened. 444 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: So everyone was so rowdy at those shows. I just 445 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: remember being a kid like trying to survive as and 446 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: not be trampled as Like guys would fight in the 447 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: crowd and I'd be getting pushed and I'd be like, 448 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: this is the greatest day of my life. I love it, 449 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: And did you want to get into the business at 450 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: that point. I've wanted to be a wrestler since I 451 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: was six years old, Like, I saw wrestling on TV. 452 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: My great uncle, I guess my grandfather's brother was like 453 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: a huge wrestling fan, and he got me into it 454 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: as a kid staying over our house one weekend just 455 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: he was watching it and I like sat down and 456 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: was hooked. Ever since my parents had no They did 457 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: not get it at all. And I broke every piece 458 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: of furniture they ever owned and made it even more, 459 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, doing all this wrestling every pillow I can 460 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: find and stuff, and they never like they were always like, Okay, yeah, 461 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: you want to be a wrestler, go to college. So 462 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: once I was done with college and stuff, and I 463 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: had like a I actually started working for the New 464 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: England Patriots and the New England Revolution right after college, 465 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: working in the office, and it just wasn't for me. 466 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: Like I was at this cubicle every day, and even 467 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: though it was cool, like the experience with the team, 468 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Like I called my dad and was like, 469 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I think I'm going to try to 470 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: be a wrestler. And I thought he was going to 471 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: talk me out of it and be like, go back inside, 472 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: don't go back to your job. Stop stop calling me 473 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: with this nonsense. And he was like, you're only young once, 474 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: you know do if you want to go for it. 475 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm walking inside right now to quit. 476 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: And this is all in my mind that because I 477 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: had the same epiphany. I was working in an insurance 478 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: company in a cubicle and I called my dad and 479 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: I said, I can't do this anymore. Now. If you 480 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: think I'm lying, go back and listen to any interview 481 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: I've ever done. And I knew I was going to 482 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: probably start wrestling school that summer, and my Dad's like, 483 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: go quit, come down the shore for a while, get 484 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: your head clear, and then start what you want to 485 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: do soon. It must be that new England blood and 486 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: it must Dad, It must be because like I, honestly, 487 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: you know, I had started kind of I knew someone that, 488 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: like a friend of mine who I used to backyard 489 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: wrestle with, had started wrestling on the indies, and so 490 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: like I knew like someone that was doing it, and 491 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: I was kind of checking out what he was doing, 492 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: kind of figuring out if I could train here or there. 493 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: And I remember like coming up with this game plan. 494 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: But in the back of my mind, I was like, 495 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: my parents are gonna say you're an idiot, and then 496 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at all the bills I have to 497 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: pay and be like, what are you doing? And I 498 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: couldn't believe that they were like, yeah, go for it. 499 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: And my mom, who who's the sweetest, and but her 500 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: biggest concern is always me getting hurt. You know, was 501 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: always very like, uh do you want to do that? 502 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: Why don't you try to be an actor or something? 503 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: But now she's like my biggest band. Like everybody play something. 504 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: That's like the first like I see is like my mom. 505 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, you huh? Who ended up training you? 506 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: When you decided this is what you're going to do? Well? 507 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Very e CW. This is a ECW all the way around. 508 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Spike Dudley trained me. So I got into like the 509 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: New England indie scene and Spike Head was was training 510 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: at Top Road Promotions, a place called the Lock Up Academy. 511 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: He had had started running in Fall River, and I 512 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of didn't know what I was doing. I was 513 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: just you know, bouncing around trying to get advice and 514 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: have anyone train me. And someone came to me and 515 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: was like, listen, if you really want to do this, 516 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: Spike Dudley has a school and so I was living 517 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: in Boston at the time, and then I just started 518 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: driving you know, the hour down the Fall River every 519 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: every other day to train with Spike and you know, 520 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: it worked out in the end. I think I think 521 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: you're doing pretty good for yourself, jeez is great and 522 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: another and like, I didn't know what I was getting into. 523 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know anything about necessarily Spike as 524 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: a human. I just knew what I saw on TV. 525 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I'm going to Spike Dudley School. 526 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: What is this going to be like? Is it's going 527 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: to be like easy? I know nothing At the time, 528 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, am I going to be you know, doing 529 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: e c W hardcore type tring training? And Spike just 530 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: blew my mind with the amount of knowledge that he 531 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: he had about every like technical wrestling, that grappling, high flying. 532 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: He knew everything. He was just so smart that he 533 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: knew that this was his path to make money in 534 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: the business, and you know, really went for it. But 535 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: I always I always bring up there's a match between 536 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: Spike and Rob Van dam that's like on a house 537 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: show at ECW that I like found one time going 538 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: through the VHS's at the Old School, and we're like, 539 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: Spike looks more like Rob van Damn than Rob van 540 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: dam does. He's doing all this high flying, so he's 541 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: like blowing my mind. I'm like, Spike, where why didn't 542 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: you do this all the time, He's like, because I 543 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: wasn't going to make money being the small guy doing 544 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: the same stuff rby D was doing. They I was 545 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: going to make money, get it beat up. And I 546 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: was like, yep, yeah, I know nothing about wrestling. Please. Yeah. 547 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: His deal was just getting thrown in the audience and 548 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: then the fans ate that up. It didn't matter if 549 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: it happened once or a million times. They just that 550 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: spot was like iconic and they loved it. So he 551 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: was great. He was great to me, and still, you know, 552 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: to this day, when if I go back up to 553 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Rhode Island or Massachusetts, you know, I'll try to find 554 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: a way to see him here and there. But it 555 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: seems like he's doing good. He's got a family now 556 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: and yeah like that. So you know, thank you, Spike, 557 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: thanks for having I love that. So so you start training, 558 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: when do you get your first big break? And how 559 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: do you transfer over to ro Oh? So like it's 560 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: weird because I feel like a lot of things happened 561 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: very quickly for me, and and it was I think 562 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: more because New England had there were so many places, 563 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: so many schools, so many shows, so many companies in 564 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: New England, and then also in New York and New Jersey. 565 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: That whole Northeast from Philadelphia to Boston is just a 566 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: hotbed of wrestling, and you know, it's like almost like 567 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: being born, like raised in a pressure cooker where it's 568 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: like you got to kind of find your way out 569 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: of here. And there's so much pressure in this in 570 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: this little area that diamonds are going to just start 571 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: shooting out of it. And there's so many good guys 572 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: that came from that area, Mike Bennett, so Warbard Hanson 573 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: or Ibar whatever he is now. And it's like all 574 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: those guys, we're all at like the same age at 575 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: the same time, in the same place, and we're all 576 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: kind of we're like, I don't care how far it is, 577 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: We're getting in the car together. We're going everywhere. And 578 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: it just happened very very quickly. And there's a place 579 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: up in the Northeast called Northeast Wrestling. It they get 580 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, they do baseball stadiums. They have great, huge 581 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: shows up there. And I was just going to do 582 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Ring Crew one time and some guy ended up dropping 583 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: out of the show last minute. I had my gear. 584 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: Next thing I watch the most important thing. Always bring 585 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: your gear bag with you. Of course, of course, so 586 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: next thing I know, I'm in the ring with Big 587 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: Daddy V getting like squashed. I'm like, I have no 588 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm so green. I have no business being in the 589 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: ring with anyone at this point, And like, those pitches 590 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: will be iconic for me forever, because it was like 591 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: the first time that it was like something big that 592 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: I did. And after that, I just started kind of 593 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: rolling with Northeast Wrestling and really kind of my friendships 594 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: with other people from Tomaso and Mike Bennett, and as 595 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: they were they had been in the business a little 596 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: bit longer, so as they were kind of going to 597 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: other places, I would just really tag along and be like, hey, 598 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: I know, if you need anyone here, I am And 599 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: I would do that at a Ring of Honor, and 600 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: it was just one of those things where same situation. 601 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: After a certain amount of time, if you're that kid 602 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: that's always around helping out and it's just there and 603 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: has their gear, there's going to be a time where 604 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: they need to fill a position. And the same thing 605 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: happened with Ring of Honor, and I always kind of 606 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: told myself, you know, these opportunities don't come every day, 607 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: so like, if you have the chance to do it 608 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: and get in front of people, yet you have to 609 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: come ready to impress. So I did a bunch of 610 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: darks for for Ring of Honor for a while, really 611 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: almost for like a year and a half, two years, 612 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: and then finally, you know, one day Jim Cornett came 613 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: up to me and was like, like, Matt Tavian, I 614 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: always thought you were a puppy with big pause. It's 615 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: time for you to grow into those big paus. I 616 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: think we want to sign you to a contract. I 617 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what any of that what 618 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: you just said, besides you to a contract, I'm all 619 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: for it. So I don't know what that means, but 620 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: let's go. So what is this new Jim Cornett, Oh, 621 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: this is twenty twelve. So like I signed, uh, you know, 622 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: January one, twenty thirteen with Ring of Honor, And it 623 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: was like it was crazy. There was so much of 624 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: us that signed at the same as that time. Me 625 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: Adam Page, Silas Young, We're still at Ring of Honor. Ah, 626 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: we all signed on the same day, Q T. Marshall, 627 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: and it was just kind of like a new class 628 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: had come in and we were like and I look 629 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: back at it now. I just was at Jay Lethos 630 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: school last night and he's got all these old DVDs 631 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: a ring of Honor, and I'm pulling them out and 632 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: reading them, and I'm like, man, this is like year 633 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: one for me. And I have no business being on 634 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: this show with any of these, all these you know, 635 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: it's like Kevin Owens and Claudio and and you know, 636 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: Chris Heiro. It's like all these guys that are so good. 637 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I had no business being on that 638 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: show at that time. But I'm glad I was able 639 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: to stick it out and stick around for so long. 640 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: See the thing with you and and I'm this the 641 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: first time we're actually meeting, but you're you're humble, which 642 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: is so nice to see. It's it's refreshing because a 643 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: lot of these in your own gimmick by the way 644 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: you're yourself. But it's very attractive to see because there's 645 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who come in and they think 646 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: that they're the ship right away and they should be, 647 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, on top right away, and they don't want 648 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: to pay dues and and you know, or they come 649 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: they come from a you know, they were on TV 650 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: as an actor or they did this or they did that, 651 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: and they think they're entitled and right away they should 652 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: be in the main event spot. So you you sound 653 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: like you came in the correct way. You had your 654 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: maith shut listened, you had your gear bag, you're ready. 655 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: So it's nice to hear. I'm sure there'd be plenty 656 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: of people that say I had my mouth open, because 657 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure I ruffled a plenty of others 658 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: along the way. But I agree, I think that that's 659 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: one of the most important things. And luckily as things 660 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: started evolving in the New England wrestling scene, you know, 661 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: there was opening for kind of like a new school 662 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: to pop up with a promotion up there called the XIBA. 663 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: So me and Mike Bennett started helping train at the school, 664 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: and that was one of the biggest things that we 665 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: would tell people, like, you're not entitled to anything in wrestling, 666 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: like you know, and not to name drop, but I 667 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: can remember Sean Michaels saying to like a group of 668 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: us one time, like wrestling will make zero sense. It 669 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: makes no sense, So stop trying to make sense of 670 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: it because you'll drive yourself crazy. All you have to 671 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: do is continue to try to do what you're doing 672 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: and hopefully something breaks. And you know, I can't tell 673 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: you how many guys come in, especially guys that and 674 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: it's I understand it. Guys that come from at backgrounds 675 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: or come from MMA or some shoot fighting. They'll come 676 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: in thinking like I can beat everyone's ass here. Why 677 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: am I not the champion exactly? Like it doesn't work 678 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: like that. There's so much more than just the competition 679 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: that comes in the ring that you know, it's nice 680 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: to kind of pass those lessons down. And I have 681 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: to really credit like guys like Mike Bennett who were 682 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: always super humble and that they were, you know, bringing 683 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: me along to places, and I was kind of seeing 684 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: how humble they were and how people would respond to it. 685 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, I know nothing about wrestling, but 686 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: I know that if you're you know, you know, Tony 687 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: tough Nuts over here saying that you should be champ 688 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: and like you're too good to set up the chairs, 689 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: you're not going to get very far, right. Yeah, So 690 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: this is funny. So I used to go to all 691 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: those rh shows, you know, back in your early days 692 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: when you were just you know, like you said in 693 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: the dark matches and you could see, you know, as 694 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: you worked your way up the card. But what was 695 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: interesting about that is exactly what you're saying is you 696 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: kind of saw r weights would always fill the gaps 697 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: with whoever left, they would be that next guy up. 698 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: Anybody who was in those early matches, they were there 699 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: for a reason. And to see where you are now. 700 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: It's fascinating because I was there at the beginning at 701 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: those shows and you see those guys that you just 702 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: mentioned as everybody kind of moved up, You see the 703 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: guys who started the bottom move up with them. So 704 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: they So how much did you really like kind of 705 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: take stock in the spots that you were given at 706 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: that point scene, how everybody in ROAH kind of progressed 707 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 1: on as they went along. I mean, you're one hundred 708 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: percent right. It still to this day you can see 709 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: all the guys that are up, you know on ROH 710 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: started down here underneath do in dark matches and stuff 711 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: like that. And I personally was was picking up on 712 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: the same thing that you're talking about, was Okay, they're 713 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: putting you in these spots for a reason because they 714 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: want to see if you can go, if you can 715 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: move up the ladder here, and there's one match in 716 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: particular that really I kind of owe my whole career 717 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: on its. Mike Mondo was down and he was there 718 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: at Ring of Honor at the time, and he kind 719 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: of felt like he was a little bit stagnant that 720 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: he needed to do something, and they put us in 721 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: a match where I really was just to get Mike 722 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: Mondo over and Mike was like, listen, both of us 723 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: need to really kind of do something today to get 724 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: on everyone's radar. And again, I'm still like, you know, 725 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: like four years in, like show me whatever you think about, 726 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: and he kind of came up with something that had 727 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: like we're in Baltimore and I'll never forget, like I've 728 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: never had anyone chant my name or anything like that, 729 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: and there's people are chanted Tavin. I'm like, oh my god. 730 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: We had a six minute match that literally when I 731 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 1: walked out, I was grabbed by the Ring of Honor 732 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: guys and said like, okay, we're going to do something 733 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: here and X y Z down the line. And it 734 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: was really just because Mike Mondo saw something in me 735 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: and said like I can do something with this that 736 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: not only is going to get myself over, but we'll 737 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: get him over as well. And I couldn't be any 738 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: more gracious towards him for that night because there's who 739 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: knows what would happen to me if if that match 740 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: never happens. But without a doubt, the reason why I've 741 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: been in Ring of Honor for the last eight years 742 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: is because that one match underneath uh going with with 743 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Mike Mondo, and I think I was there for that, 744 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, it triggered so no, it 745 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: triggered something. And I just again, I remember you would 746 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: see him on the cart in those early spots and 747 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: you saw obviously he had something. And anybody that they 748 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: put that emphasis on you had to put stock in 749 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: as a fan because they had their eye on them. 750 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: So whether they were telling you or not, and they 751 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: were no selling you. You know, behind the scenes, you 752 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: could just see from the product itself who was going 753 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: to be the next minted guys of r O WAH. 754 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: That was always something that I love to watch about it, 755 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: you know when the R WAH really was. I mean 756 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: it's still, you know, the great presence they have, but 757 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: back then it was like, if it's a r H guy, 758 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: you got to keep your eye on them, that's for sure. 759 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I have to have those same 760 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: conversations with like younger guys today that are just getting 761 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: into the Ring of honor. They're like, oh my god, 762 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. I'm like, there's a 763 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: reason why you're in this spot, you know what I mean. 764 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: They see something in you in the future. They're just 765 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: it's a slow builds, you know what I mean. It's 766 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: and and I I think I'm you know, I don't 767 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: want to say I'm humble, but I think I come 768 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: off as humble because I went up that slow build 769 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: and I could. I felt like that was the way 770 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: to go as a wrestling fan in general. You know, 771 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: I've been a wrestling fan, like I said, since I 772 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: was six five, six years old. The people that worked 773 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: their way up. You know, I grew up a six 774 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: year old in love with Brett Hard thinking he's the 775 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: coolest guy ever. And to see him go from like 776 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: the tag titles he hits to contact the title to 777 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: when finally he was wrestled for the world title, it 778 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: felt like, that's my guy. Here's the beginning. I made 779 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: this happen so like I kind of always felt the 780 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: same thing as like as as a wrestler that I 781 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: want to be in my career. I always wanted to 782 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: be that guy that worked his way up, and you know, 783 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: luckily I was able to do that and Ring of Honor. 784 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: There was some speed bumps along the way, some setbacks, 785 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: but always got kind of back in the in the 786 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: into the position I wanted to and and you know, 787 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: I really always had in mind from that first day 788 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: that eventually I wanted to be the Ring of Honor 789 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: World Champion. 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Yeah right, I've had 823 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: so many homemade belts or you know, WoT the little 824 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: plastic belts and stuff like that that I was like here, here, 825 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: I am in Madison Square guarded, I'm the champion, and 826 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: for like one day for that to finally come true. 827 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: It's still you know, I talk about it a lot 828 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: in interviews, but it doesn't feel real to me at 829 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: the same time, you know what I mean, like it 830 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: happened and all that stuff, But at the same time, 831 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: it feels like almost like I watched a movie that 832 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: I happened to the end, you know. It's it's I 833 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: almost remember it more through the eyes of other people 834 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: than I do. Right, Yeah, totally understand. I look back, 835 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: because you know, I've been kind of semi retired. I 836 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: do little things here and there, but I look back 837 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: and I say, I don't know how to hell I 838 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: did ninety percent of the stuff that I did, and 839 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a dream to me. It's like 840 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: that really happened, because like at this stage, I'm a 841 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: fifty years old I would never in a million years 842 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: do anything like that at this stage in my life. 843 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: But back then, you know you're invincible. You're in your 844 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: twenties and thirties and you're above the law. No one 845 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: can touch you, and you know it's it's surreally fifty, 846 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: I'll be fifty in February. You don't have to tell 847 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: anyone that you look on your husband because like you, 848 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: I have fifty. Wow, that caught me off guard. Well, 849 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 1: thank you. Well, now, remember when we did the boot shot, 850 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: I was probably like twenty five. Yeah, I know, and 851 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: that just makes me think, like the years a going 852 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: by on my end too. So I'm trying to be like, no, 853 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: none of us. We're still young. We're very cen to't 854 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: worry about it. You're fine. I asked this question to 855 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I already know the answer, but 856 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: I want to hear you say it. Do you prefer 857 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: heel or babyface? Heel? Of course? I mean, it's just 858 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: so much fun, and like I've always kind of I 859 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: don't know, I always have this weird relationship with the 860 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: Ring of Honor fans. I'm very much mayby faced with 861 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: the female fans, but like, come again, the male fans 862 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: of a hated me no matter what. So like to 863 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: be able to like tell them exactly how I felt 864 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: for a long time. Oh that was good stuff. So 865 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: why are we not healing the women? Mat what? What is? 866 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: Why are we being a baby face to the ladies. Well, 867 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: you know what, I would try to be a heal 868 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: to everyone. It just seems like they loved it, so 869 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, Like, I didn't know 870 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: how to to make them hate me. And at this point, 871 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: no matter what I said, it would get a female 872 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: cheer and a male hard male booth. So you mean 873 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: to tell me, if you pick a lady out of 874 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: the front row and you call her every name of 875 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: the book, and you tell her she's so ugly and this, 876 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 1: that and the other thing, you're going to get cheered. 877 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: I might actually get cheered for that from the from 878 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: the male guys. Guys. If I went and buried one girl, 879 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: the other girls in the crowd would be like up, 880 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: that's right, because I don't know. Girls aren't loyal to 881 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: one another. Let's be honest, David, that's true. We can't 882 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: roll over with the women. If I buried one chick 883 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: in particular, that's hilarious. Well, you know, and for merch, 884 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure the ladies like to show off the merchandise 885 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, I you know, I have a 886 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of purple merchandise, which it's a lot better on 887 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: women than it does men. It seems. Well. I I 888 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: am so excited for you. What's coming up for you 889 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: in r oh now what are Yeah, we're finally back 890 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: back at it, you know, we we've sincly are broadcasting. 891 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: I feel that it's such a good job during the pandemic, 892 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: just making sure they you know, dotted, all their eyes crossed, 893 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: all their t's, made sure that everyone a Ring of 894 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: Honor not only was financially okay because they they didn't 895 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: miss a beat, which is kind of crazy. That okay, 896 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: And like and and this is something that you know, 897 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. And I try to 898 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: get out there just because I feel like Ring Wander 899 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get the credit for it. But there was stuff 900 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: right before the pandemic hit, like a women's tournament in 901 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: April and these shows in March, the Past First Present 902 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: show in March where they were bringing in a lot 903 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: of people that weren't aren't weren't under Ring of Honor contracts, 904 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 1: that were just coming in for one shots and stuff, 905 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: All that stuff had to be canceled because of the pandemic. 906 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: But Sinclair and Ring of Honor paid every single person 907 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: that was booked for any single one of those shows, 908 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: not even if you weren't under contract anything, if you 909 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: had been contacted by Ring of Honor and they had 910 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: told you they were going to book you, they made 911 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: good on their word for every single person. That is 912 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: a rarity in this and and you know, I've been 913 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: in the wrestling business long enough at this point is 914 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: to know how rare that is. And it's just it's 915 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: crazy to see it. To see it done from from 916 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: Sinclair were like no questions asked, almost like it was 917 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: just not even a nope. Everyone's getting taken care of. 918 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: And uh now we're we're you know, we're seeing the 919 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel. We're finally having 920 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: fans back in the building July eleventh on pay per 921 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: view in Bolt. More so for me personally, it's it's 922 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: been this weird time where the fans are everything you 923 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: know for wrestlers, and it's it's really it's been so different. 924 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: As much as I've loved the products that Ring Honor 925 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: has been putting out, without the fans. It's just not 926 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: the same, you know what I mean. You hit that 927 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: Matt and you don't hear a response, and it's like, oh, oh, 928 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,959 Speaker 1: do I even want to get up at this point, 929 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: especially as a heel, You're drawing your energy from the crowd, 930 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: you know. So that was the other thing. So during 931 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: the pandemic, I've had two surgeries, came back from injury, 932 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: reunited with my tag partner who I haven't wrestled with 933 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: in five years, turned Babyface now the first time, and 934 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: for all of this, I'll be in front of a 935 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: crowd for the first time. So it's like, my god, 936 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: there's been you know, there's been some I don't want 937 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: to say missed opportunities because like they were, they were 938 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: still came off really well. But I just could only 939 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: imagine what my return would have been. That would have 940 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: been like in front of a crowd, what me and 941 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: Mike Bennett reuniting after all this time would have been crowd. 942 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: And so like now it kind of feels like we're 943 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: gonna get in front of that crowd. I want to 944 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 1: show you everything that we've been doing this this last 945 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: couple of months. So I'm just so excited to kind 946 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: of be back to normal life. And it seems like 947 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: July July eleventh, you know that all starts, and then 948 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 1: we'll be back in the ECW Arena for two nights 949 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: in August as well, h twentieth and twenty first. And 950 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: you know that Philly crowd if you've missed the if 951 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: you've missed fans, that Philly crowd will really give you 952 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: a shot of life in the arm one way or 953 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: the other. You know, the usual, the biggest fans of 954 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: that team. And so I'm sure I'll get a lot 955 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: of booze, but at the same time, it will be 956 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 1: like just hearing anything at this point exactly exactly, Well, 957 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like you have a lot on your plate, 958 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: and I'm very very excited for you again everybody. June eleventh, 959 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: r oh, pay per view, I'm sorry, July eleventh, Yeah, 960 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: today's what the twenty four July eleven? What are you? 961 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: What are you streaming on for this pay per view? 962 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: What's we're on regular pay per view on all your 963 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 1: cable providers. You know, the smartest thing to do is 964 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: to sign up for Honor Club. It's only ten bucks 965 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: a month. You get the pay reviews, you get the TV, 966 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: you get all the house shows and stuff like that. 967 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: So can they got r o H dot com and 968 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: the Honor Club. Yep, r o H Wrestling dot com. 969 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: You can find the Honor Club and that way you 970 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,919 Speaker 1: don't you don't miss the shit. And it's a little 971 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: tough for us because we don't have normal house shows. 972 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: Every single thing goes up on the Honor Club, so 973 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: you can't take a night off. But at the same time, 974 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: it keeps us going one hundred and tent percent. All right, 975 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: well that's exciting. July eleventh, all right, we're gonna we're 976 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: gonna tune into that. And where can people find you 977 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: if they want to know more about Matt Tavan? So 978 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: if you can spell Tavan, which it seems very easy, 979 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: but I've had people screw this up so much over 980 00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: the years. It's not Tavin, it's Tavin. That's Tavern, not Tavern, 981 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: not t Aven. I don't know. People screw it up anyway, 982 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: right the first time, Ron's a raven and maven and 983 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: you know all that good, right, So if you can 984 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: spell Tavan a V and I'm on all social media 985 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: platforms Matt Tavan on Facebook, on Twitter, be Matt Tavan 986 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: on Instagram because some Melvin tried to take Matt taban 987 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: from me and then hold it hostage. I said, screw 988 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: that up. Be Matt Tavan, buddy. So I hope you're 989 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: good with that handle. You know, Matt Taven up for 990 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: wrestling tease. Like I said, if you can spell Tavan, 991 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: you can. You can find me all right doing simple 992 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: Google search, and he's a pop up. Well, hopefully we are. 993 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: We'll be back in Disney the end of January February, 994 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: so maybe I'll please we could go on a safe 995 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: ride together. I don't do those big roller coaches scary ones. Yeah, no, 996 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,479 Speaker 1: we'll go. Maybe we'll go Winnie the Poo or something 997 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: that'll be. But it was a delight to finally sit 998 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: down and chat with you. I wish you nothing but success. 999 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: And if you ever could find the old picture, we'll 1000 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: take a new one and we can do a side 1001 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: by side and it'll be hilarious and we'll show your 1002 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: mother and she'll love it. My mom would be She'll 1003 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: be like, something's just never changed with you. Huh. But 1004 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: I literally have to I told myself I have to 1005 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: find this picture just to recreate it. So I'm going 1006 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: to hold you to that. I'm going to find it. 1007 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: We're going to redo this. My husband is the coolest 1008 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: man on the planet. He's just like he doesn't care 1009 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: so well. I mean, you're literally like there's a table 1010 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: between us, so there's plenty of social distance between us, 1011 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: so we can It's more of like I'm leaning like 1012 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: a little kid and you're leaning forward, and it's just 1013 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: magic happened. I love it. I can't wait to do 1014 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: it perfect well, Honey's pleasure, Thank good luck with everything. 1015 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you on the July eleventh. And 1016 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: we'll keep in touch for sure. Yes, thank you guys 1017 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: so much for having me. Hopefully we'll talk soon and 1018 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: hopefully i'll see him Disney sounds good. Special look to 1019 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: you you met, take care. I love that. And there 1020 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: he goes, here's where the missed opportunity was. That's where 1021 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,959 Speaker 1: he should have said, and that's the night I wanted 1022 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: to become a pro wrestler. The blood, the picture, the 1023 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: whole perfect recipe to become a wrestler. Yeah, I can't 1024 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: remember if he said where the signing was, but it 1025 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: was probably at a mall. We probably had sunglasses on 1026 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: and indoors because we were obnoxious like that back then, 1027 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: which made no sense. We've been seeing a lot of 1028 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 1: those pictures popping up too. I love that. I know, 1029 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I saw another one recently. Somebody put 1030 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: one up and I was just like, there's another one. 1031 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,720 Speaker 1: Where where are they? I was in a video store 1032 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: there he just tapes behind me. That was awesome personally, 1033 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: I love that one the most. Okay, very good. But yeah, 1034 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: he seems like a hell of a nice guy. So yeah, 1035 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: hopefully you know, bigger and better things for him, and 1036 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's doing a great job. You want 1037 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: a road trip to Baltimore in July? Oh, I don't know. 1038 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: Maybe you never know. I'll take the picture. You guys create, 1039 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: create the picture. Yeah, if I wish there was something 1040 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: else to do down there for me and you, it 1041 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: would be cool. That would be cool, A little short notice, 1042 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: all kind of only what it was, I know, not 1043 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: even you never know a couple of weeks away, look 1044 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: underneath the something here. You never know in this business, 1045 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: never know, you never know. Good for him, good for him, 1046 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: very cool, very cool. All right, you want to talk 1047 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: about Patreon, Sure, absolutely do with my brand new read 1048 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: lettering here. It's really punching me in the face, just 1049 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: out there. It's really cool. It's so simple. Yeah, it 1050 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: was so easy. I pulled up a quiz and it's 1051 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: my favorite. It's from BuzzFeed. They're the best. You know, 1052 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed There always were always at the end of it, 1053 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: we're like, who who thought of this? So stupid? I 1054 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: can sum up your whole personality in five words with 1055 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: only fifteen random Now I happen to think that I 1056 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: have a great personality. I'm gonna put myself over and 1057 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm very personable. So let's see if BuzzFeed agrees with me. 1058 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: The questions are a little you know, they can be 1059 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: they could be weird, and these like easy questions and 1060 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: like odd ones like I don't know how to answer that, 1061 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: So okay, if it gets you get your thinking, okay, 1062 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: this one I go either way. Literally, I typed wrestling 1063 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: memes into Google and seventeen million things came up, and 1064 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: we're going to scroll through the memes and read them. 1065 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: And I was laughing by like, yeah, yeah, I'll put up. 1066 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: I was laughing like five in because they're so stupid. 1067 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: But some of them are so damn funny. I was 1068 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: like this, this could be perfect. But it's a wrestling meme, 1069 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: so you might even pop up in one for all 1070 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 1: I will I don't know, exciting and then for the 1071 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: rest and I watch along went back to the fan 1072 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: Camwell had to continue what we did from the previous 1073 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: week because I liked it so much. How about this? Okay, 1074 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: Chris Candido with Shane Douglas and Francine versus Lance Storm 1075 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: from Wilkespare, Pennsylvania eight seven ninety eight. Don't remember it's 1076 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: see that's interesting because the building is so unique looking. 1077 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: I would love to see if it toggles your memory 1078 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: just based off of how the building looks. It's a 1079 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: very weird shape building. I think let me say the 1080 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 1: name of it was, and I thought I had it. 1081 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: I think it's some it's like the you know, the 1082 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: National Guard Armory or the Wilkes Spare, Pennsylvania Armory, something 1083 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: like that. But the building is so uniquely designed. I 1084 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: wonder if it's going to toggle anything for you. I'm 1085 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: wondering if if Shane is Shane injured, it can't work. Okay, 1086 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 1: so that's going to be the reason why. Okay, we'll 1087 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: look at it. And we'll see because it's not ringing 1088 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: a bell. The only thing that thinks about it is 1089 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: when you guys cut the promo at the beginning, you 1090 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 1: can't hear a word because the acoustics of the building 1091 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: with the microphone and the PA it just sounds like 1092 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: shangleing and you're just in there and he's saying this stuff. 1093 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: We don't know what the heck he's talking about, and 1094 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,919 Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, well we can fast forward about 1095 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: if you blink or that. That's when I can look 1096 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: around the room and see, well, we get the whole, 1097 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: we get the whole entrance. That's why I like it. 1098 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, perfect, So looking forward to another thing I 1099 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: don't remember, so fun And that's it. That's the way 1100 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: I like it. So if you want to follow me, 1101 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: it's at Chad E and B on Instagram and Twitter. 1102 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: My website is ibexclusives dot com. I've got a lot 1103 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: of signings going on on ibexclusives dot com. And I 1104 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 1: also just introduced a quick little ad for the Creative 1105 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: Control Network where through the month of July and this 1106 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: pertains to create a control since we have our audio 1107 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: on there, I'm offering twenty percent off anything in the store, 1108 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: private signing, merchandise, trading cards, whatever's on the site. Just 1109 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: for CCN listeners, twenty percent off through the month of July. 1110 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 1: Is there code they need? CCN twenty? There you go, 1111 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: because you know you have to tell them the code 1112 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: and I forgot CCN twenty. That's why I'm ladies, you're 1113 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: the bomb. That's why news with your sale that you 1114 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: have going on, are we still selling the perfectly rated 1115 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: T shirts? And that was also included in the sale. 1116 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: If you would like to get your hands on the 1117 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: perfectly rated T shirt, head over to ibexclusive dot com. 1118 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: Do you know I was actually asked to do a 1119 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: perfectly rated podcast where you give them list of people 1120 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: who may be deemed under or over. I won't say 1121 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: the words connected anymore, and I kind of like debunk 1122 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: why they are? They are not interesting? Are we doing it? 1123 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe a one off. I don't. I can't. 1124 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: I can't commit to anything else right now. I've got 1125 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: too much's going on. You have like eighty seven podcast 1126 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: you need to like you can't go a day without 1127 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: hearing my dumb voice. There was actually the other night 1128 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: I did our our Buddy rad Rob who was on 1129 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: our Patreon. I did a show for him. We watched 1130 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 1: the Let's Go Mets music video of the mid nineteen eighties. 1131 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: The Mets did a like a We're the greatest team 1132 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: in the world video, like this super Bowl shuffle exactly. 1133 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things in my childhood. After 1134 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 1: I was done talking, my wife was talking to my 1135 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: mom and my mom goes, I could hear you from downstairs. 1136 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: I was so loud. I go, you know what I go. 1137 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm tired of hearing my own voice at this point, 1138 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: so I'll keep it down next time. Were you drunk 1139 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: is the question? I was not. I was drinking, but 1140 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: I was not drunk. Not I can't, I can't listen. 1141 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 1: We've since talked and he I guess he didn't catch on, 1142 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: but I was. I was fearing my my relationship with 1143 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: this one athlete ended. Okay, but that's fun. Okay, So 1144 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: twenty percent off your everything in your store, everything in 1145 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: the store, all right, Well, good luck with that across 1146 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: the board. For me on social media, you can find 1147 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: me at ECWDVA, Francine Twitch. I've been taking a couple 1148 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: weeks off. I've been slacking the mouth has been bad, 1149 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: but I'm coming back. So if you want to come, 1150 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: follow or subscribe, or give me bits or just show 1151 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: me love www dot Twitch, dot tv, Forward, slash, ECWDVA 1152 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,959 Speaker 1: Francine and people. Please, if you are going to book 1153 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: a cameo, please use my link on Twitter. Do not 1154 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: use the site itself. They take fifty five percent from talent. 1155 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to tell you this 1156 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: or not, but it really encourage them. Tell them it 1157 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: really affects talent. I mean, if you use talents link, 1158 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: they take twenty five percent. If you book through the site, 1159 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: they take fifty five. That's an extra thirty percent in 1160 00:59:54,760 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: a talent's pocket. It's unbelievable. That's like Apple takes the 1161 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: extra thirty percent. So you know you're supporting your favorite wrestlers. 1162 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Just click the link that they provide. It's not rocket science. 1163 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: All you have to do is click the link in 1164 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: the tweet and we'll take care of you. Do it 1165 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: for me, do it for us. Yeah, and that's all 1166 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I got. So hopefully everybody's staying safe and healthy. And 1167 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: with that, that is a breath. Hey, it's your old 1168 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: buddy the chadser from Eyes Up here with Francine, the 1169 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,439 Speaker 1: tampt Empire and the brand with a special announcement about 1170 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: my company, ID Exclusives. 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