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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I wrote with stuff when never told your protection to

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Speaker 2: Buyheart Radio.

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Speaker 3: And once again I have wielded my podcast powers to

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Speaker 3: interview face to face with someone that I only know

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Speaker 3: through social media and I have followed for a while now,

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Speaker 3: so it feels like I'm meeting a celebrity whenever I'm like, i've.

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Speaker 1: Seen you recently as in today.

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Speaker 3: But with that, I'm so excited to have on Monique,

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Speaker 3: who is also known as black Belt Babe on social media.

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Speaker 1: Monique, welcome, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be here, y'all. Definitely happy to

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Speaker 4: be sharing a space with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: When I tried to find you and I was like

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Speaker 3: producer Christina, we need to find this person because I

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Speaker 3: need her on the show.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I can't get to anything. We don't see anything.

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Speaker 3: Only she's so good at keeping her social media life

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Speaker 3: and personal life separate.

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Speaker 1: That's a magic trake. I want you to know that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. It truly is, and it's something I'm always

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Speaker 4: very intentional about, you know, and I call it the

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Speaker 4: grass touching world. But I'm a wife, I'm a mom,

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Speaker 4: and my husband is a relatively private person. And then

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Speaker 4: my daughter, of course, we keep her off of social media,

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Speaker 4: so it's really important for me to maintain some sort

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Speaker 4: of privacy. But I do meet people sometime in person.

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Speaker 4: They're like, I think I know you, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: it's probably TikTok.

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Speaker 3: And yes, I think I know you in the social media,

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Speaker 3: of course, but all of that now that you've corrupt in.

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Speaker 3: Can you introduce yourself to our listeners?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely so, Hi, y'all. My name is Monique, also known

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Speaker 4: as black Belt Babe. I'm a community organizer. I am

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Speaker 4: a public sector worker and a proud union member. I'm

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Speaker 4: also somebody that gives views and views from the people struggle.

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Speaker 2: And how would you describe your contents because you do

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Speaker 4: Absolutely so. I never had a niche until actually a

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Speaker 4: couple months ago. I used to just talk about anything

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Speaker 4: with the Jacksuville Community Action Committee. At our meetings, we

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Speaker 4: news and views from the people's struggle. So, as a

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Speaker 4: It was really important for me to give content that

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Speaker 4: so it's easy for people to understand and it's easy

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Speaker 3: And yes, I would definitely say your content is very

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Speaker 1: Still hard to take.

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Speaker 3: That seems like the realm of the world today is

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Speaker 4: Absolutely so. When I first started on TikTok, it was

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Speaker 4: that's the conversation for another day. But recently I started

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Speaker 4: So it's curated a community that is very healthy and

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Speaker 3: That type of content, right, And I think you also

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Speaker 3: And I've noticed this trend more and more because I'm

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Speaker 3: Like I've noticed some of the people that are trusted

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Speaker 3: And not only do you have a perspective in which

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Speaker 3: Activism is something that has always been a part of

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Speaker 3: But then like seeing this in a perspective that you're

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Speaker 4: And I don't think people understand that that's such a

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Speaker 4: I didn't go into the voting booth in November and

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing is like when having someone like you,

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Speaker 4: research other things because there's other perspectives that may not

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Speaker 4: be shared on these legacy media sites. And I'm very

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Speaker 4: thankful for my homegirl for being patient and talking to

436
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Speaker 4: me about this, because before twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, I

437
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Speaker 4: had I really didn't have an idea of what was

438
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Speaker 4: what was going on, if that makes sense. I it

439
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Speaker 4: was kind of it seemed like a distant problem and

440
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Speaker 4: a distant world that had nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 4: And then she really sat me down in a bunch

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Speaker 4: of other people and explained the interconnectedness of that, and

443
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Speaker 4: I was like, oh wait, so this these are the

444
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Speaker 4: people on Twitter if that were giving us tips well,

445
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Speaker 4: you know, being tear gas during the rebellion for Mike

446
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Speaker 4: Brown and Freddie Gray. Oh okay, this makes sense, and

447
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Speaker 4: so the interconnectiveness of it is beautiful, and I truly

448
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Speaker 4: am grateful for her and anybody else. But that did

449
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Speaker 4: kind of that changed a lot in news reporting, and

450
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Speaker 4: just it built so much distrust for me myself and

451
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Speaker 4: just realizing that I'm going to look at this article

452
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Speaker 4: of legacy media and I'm gonna eat the meat, spit

453
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Speaker 4: out the bones, and go and do my own research.

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Speaker 2: Yes, which is so so so important. And speaking of changes,

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Speaker 2: that is one one you've talked about, But are there

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Speaker 2: any other changes you've seen since you started to where

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Speaker 2: you are now when it comes to news coverage and

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Speaker 2: current affairs?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely so, do you mean in terms of what I'm

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Speaker 4: covering or just changes.

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Speaker 2: In content both, any what changes you've seen witnessed?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely so. It's interesting because I'll sometimes on my fo

463
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Speaker 4: you page see another person cover something I covered, but

464
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Speaker 4: they'll cover it in a different in a different way.

465
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Speaker 4: I'll bring up Khalil or excuse me in my mood Khalil,

466
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Speaker 4: for example, I covered it in a way where I said,

467
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Speaker 4: this is an attack on free speech, like straight up,

468
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Speaker 4: I was a college activist most of my entire college career.

469
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Speaker 4: This is an escalation, this is crazy. And then another

470
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Speaker 4: person on my for you page I saw cover it

471
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Speaker 4: that was like, oh, well he said this and he

472
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Speaker 4: said that, and essentially to me, it gave this is

473
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Speaker 4: why he should be deported. And that was that was

474
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Speaker 4: kind of awkward to me. I was like, ehh, So

475
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Speaker 4: I started to see people kind of I don't want

476
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Speaker 4: to use the word propaganda because maybe that's that's too

477
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Speaker 4: much of a hot butt word. What changes I've seen

478
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Speaker 4: is usually people would never cover anything in Palace side,

479
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Speaker 4: anything international, anything about Africa kicking out French troops, they

480
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Speaker 4: would cover any of it. It would literally just be America focused. Now,

481
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 4: as I'm getting more followers and growing and growing and growing,

482
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Speaker 4: I'm seeing a lot more international news coverage come down

483
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Speaker 4: my for you page from other content creators who are

484
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Speaker 4: primarily in the news and news world. Now is it

485
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Speaker 4: what I would like to watch? No, because I feel

486
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Speaker 4: that it doesn't give an accurate viewpoint as somebody that's

487
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Speaker 4: a work glass person like I don't feel like it does.

488
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Speaker 4: But I am glad they're covering international issues now, but

489
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Speaker 4: before they weren't. And then in terms of my content

490
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Speaker 4: things that I've changed. I used to kind of read

491
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Speaker 4: off a paper. I'm a teleprompter now, so that's very

492
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Speaker 4: helpful to kind of just look. Another thing that has

493
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Speaker 4: been quite a change are a welcome change, is I

494
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Speaker 4: have been kind of looking at my comments a lot

495
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Speaker 4: more responding to the comments that people have questions that

496
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Speaker 4: kind of write it in my notes, and then I

497
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Speaker 4: go with research and answer the question. The other day,

498
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Speaker 4: a lot of my followers had questions of why the

499
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Speaker 4: Trump administration is sending so many undocumented people to these

500
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Speaker 4: detention centers in Louisiana, and I found out it was

501
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Speaker 4: because of the judges they have friendly pro Trump and

502
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Speaker 4: there are mostly Trump appointees, hardline immigration judges that are

503
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Speaker 4: going to essentially deport all these people. But that's kind

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Speaker 4: of the changes I've seen people go from not covering

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Speaker 4: anything in Palace side at all, now they're starting to

506
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Speaker 4: say stuff. It is a little biased, in my opinion,

507
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Speaker 4: but at least they're talking about it now, right.

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Speaker 3: I find that interesting with the detention centers because I

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Speaker 3: did see that pop up in your response, because we

510
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Speaker 3: also know that there's been a lot of privatization when

511
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Speaker 3: it comes to detention centers, and the South has big,

512
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Speaker 3: big contracts. I say this, I worked in the Department

513
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Speaker 3: of Juvenal Justice, so we during my time they closed

514
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Speaker 3: down private detention centers. They're trying to reopen them, and

515
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Speaker 3: I find this very alarm alarming. With the same along

516
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Speaker 3: the lines of what's coming on with the deportations and

517
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Speaker 3: immigration and refugee issues and who's making the most amount

518
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Speaker 3: of money. That's a whole other side, Monique, you and

519
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Speaker 3: I you to talk, that's the whole other side.

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Speaker 1: But it is interesting.

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Speaker 3: And you were talking also because I am also on

522
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Speaker 3: your spam account. Yes, I'm that deep in with you,

523
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Speaker 3: whether you want me to be or not. You're talking

524
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Speaker 3: about like in both the good players and the bad

525
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Speaker 3: players when it comes to like comments and people coming in,

526
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Speaker 3: and you know, there are a lot of good people

527
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Speaker 3: out there, but again sure also some bad players. We've

528
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Speaker 3: all we've ran into view ourselves. What are some things

529
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Speaker 3: that we should be wary of when it comes to

530
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Speaker 3: Carnivent's content, like not only in your comments to try

531
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Speaker 3: to miss like spread misinformation there because that's what they do,

532
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Speaker 3: but just also in other contents. What should be we

533
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Speaker 3: be wary of when it comes to stuff like that?

534
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, so that's fan page I'm about to test. But

535
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Speaker 4: those motherfuckers stressed out and in that comments section, I

536
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I'm gonna go over there

537
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Speaker 4: talk about it. But I love it my most important thing, honestly,

538
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Speaker 4: And it may sound really crazy. For me, it is

539
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Speaker 4: class basis, and it's also like ethnicity. Is this person

540
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Speaker 4: a regular working person? Is this person just trying to

541
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Speaker 4: make it? Like? Is this person just fighting to survive?

542
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Speaker 4: Is this person on TikTok as like a side hustle

543
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Speaker 4: to you know, go with their nine to five? Like?

544
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Speaker 4: Is this a regular person? And that sounds weird? And

545
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Speaker 4: then for me, I love like if I see people,

546
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Speaker 4: especially black women, that are giving news content, I'm like,

547
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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this person looks like me. This person

548
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Speaker 4: is the working class person. Okay, so they're going to

549
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Speaker 4: share my same views because at the bare bones of it,

550
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Speaker 4: as workers, we we kind of are fighting the same battle.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it sucks, we're fighting to survive under capitalism.

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Speaker 4: So because we have that basis of knowledge and that

553
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Speaker 4: basis of experience, the way you report news is going

554
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Speaker 4: to be as somebody that is affected by it. The

555
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Speaker 4: way that I report news is somebody that is that

556
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Speaker 4: is affected by it, you know what I mean, Like

557
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Speaker 4: somebody that is affected by the election, someone that's affected

558
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Speaker 4: by Jerry Mandarin, somebody that is affected by all the

559
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Speaker 4: hateful rhetoric against immigration. My mother in laws Filipino my

560
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Speaker 4: husband have Filipino, and she came to the country when

561
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Speaker 4: she was in her thirties. She's worked haward her life.

562
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Speaker 4: She's still working to this day when she does not

563
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Speaker 4: have to. And to see some of the things that

564
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Speaker 4: people say about immigrants, people that come to this country

565
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Speaker 4: in search of a better world, it makes me angry.

566
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Speaker 4: But it makes me angry one because I'm a person

567
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Speaker 4: with a conscience, but also because I have that base

568
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Speaker 4: of experience. And because I have that base of experience,

569
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be reporting news about the Trump

570
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Speaker 4: administration deporting people in a monotone voice. No that I'm

571
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Speaker 4: not going to be reporting it in that way, because

572
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Speaker 4: I like, I don't think it's right, you know. So

573
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Speaker 4: that's an extremely important thing to look at. Its just

574
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Speaker 4: does this person have the same values that I have?

575
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Speaker 4: Is this person? Does this person have the same life

576
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Speaker 4: experience that I have? Is this person someone that is

577
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Speaker 4: participating in harmful systems? Or is this person somebody that

578
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Speaker 4: is not necessarily a victim, but somebody that is affected

579
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Speaker 4: by these harmful systems. When I realize that we have

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Speaker 4: that same basis, I'm like, oh, I can follow them,

581
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Speaker 4: because the news is not going to be biased. The

582
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Speaker 4: news is not going to be in a place where

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Speaker 4: they're kind of like monotone talking about like the most

584
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Speaker 4: formal thing in the entire world. Now, I do give

585
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: unbiased news. My news is not biased at all whatsoever.

586
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 4: I kind of just put it out there. But at

587
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Speaker 4: the end of the day, if someone is a white surpermaces,

588
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call them white services. I always say, I

589
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: tell the truth, like, and that makes me unbiased because

590
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: I am telling you the truth. Now you may not

591
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 4: like to hear it, but that's just what it is.

592
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: So that's what I would look out for. Just somebody

593
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Speaker 4: that shares the same you know, basis of knowledge and

594
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 4: experience them in life and you'll you'll be just fine. Right.

595
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Speaker 3: I think I figured out something too during the election stuff.

596
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Speaker 3: When people idolize a candidate instead of seeing them as

597
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Speaker 3: a choice, that's that's like a big warning sign to

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Speaker 3: me that I'm like, you're a way too, Like they're human. Eventually,

599
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Speaker 3: something they do you're going to disagree with, and that's okay,

600
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Speaker 3: and we should be able to call that out. But

601
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Speaker 3: if in the overall this is the best interest for

602
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Speaker 3: the people in humanity, then okay.

603
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Speaker 1: But like that was something that I would like really

604
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Speaker 1: quickly was like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is given a little a little idolizing of

606
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Speaker 3: people who sometimes care.

607
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Speaker 1: I don't know, they questioned me ugly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that election time for me, especially somebody

609
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Speaker 4: that's doing news and views, because I really was trying

610
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Speaker 4: to report it. I was really trying to report it

611
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Speaker 4: in the most fair way possible because first of all,

612
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Speaker 4: Trump supporters don't even follow me. They know I wasn't

613
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Speaker 4: voting for Trump. That was not really even an option.

614
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Speaker 4: So I was trying to report it in a very

615
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Speaker 4: honest way. There was a lot of things at stake,

616
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Speaker 4: but there was also a lot of issues that needed

617
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Speaker 4: to be needed to be down within that election. But

618
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Speaker 4: my viewpoint about the election, especially somebody that did get

619
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Speaker 4: out to vote events, somebody that would to vote, somebody

620
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Speaker 4: that was actually in the community organizing, because I didn't

621
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Speaker 4: want to go through Trump again that organized under him

622
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Speaker 4: for almost the entire time news in office. Obviously I

623
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: didn't want him in again. Right, my motto now unite

624
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: and fight against Trump. I'm not talking about what happened

625
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: last year during the election. It's done. The results are in,

626
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: the results are tabulated, it's looking over and I've been

627
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Speaker 4: trying to say it like that in a way that

628
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Speaker 4: helps people kind of understand. I'm not talking about Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harrison more. I'm not even going to talk about Joe

630
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: Biden anymore. They're not in office. Who's in office. Trump

631
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Speaker 4: Advance are in office, and these are the people that

632
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Speaker 4: are going to be sending down these policies to mess

633
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: up our lives. Why are we talking about what happened

634
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 4: in October and November? Still it's not going to help

635
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: us to unite, invite. So yeah, with that, people are

636
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: still kind of beating the dead horse with the election talk,

637
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: and they can do that all they want. But for me,

638
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Speaker 4: I'm not pointing fingers at anybody except for the people

639
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: that voted for that man a third time. You voted

640
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Speaker 4: for him a third time. That's who I'm pointing fingers at.

641
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: But everybody else, if I even then, I'm not even

642
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: pointing fingers at them. I'm just saying, hey, you know,

643
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Speaker 4: do what you do, when you do it, how you

644
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Speaker 4: do it. I'm going to do what I do when

645
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: I need to do it. But for me, my model

646
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: right now, especially the London Trump Again, Unite and I

647
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: will unitify with anybody if we have the same basis,

648
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Speaker 4: we have practice, and we have the same ideas, like

649
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Speaker 4: similar and goal, let's go, let's do it.

650
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Speaker 3: It got ugly, yeah for us in Georgia. Is us

651
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: yelling at also and warnock be like do better, keep better?

652
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: Actually fight for us?

653
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: Yes, that's been our new thing.

654
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: But anyway, again, I'm somewhat familiar with do TikTok content,

655
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: as I keep mentioning, because you know, I have to

656
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: tell you I'm a superfan. Obviously, your work has also

657
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: been based around justice and advocacy, which is I think

658
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: again a while I was like, yes, this is my

659
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: this is my person, this is my person that I

660
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: need to talk to. Can you talk about how this

661
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: type of work of advocacy and your content and social

662
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: media intersect.

663
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's community organizing shapes my entire life. I met

664
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: my husband at an anti trunk. We got married that

665
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: same year. I mean, literally, this beautiful man at this process.

666
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: Who is that? It shaped my entire adult life. As

667
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: in college I was an organizer with students for Democratic Society.

668
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: We chased Nazis off our campus, literal Nazis. I'm not

669
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: just calling him that he said, he did an interview

670
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: he said, Hey, I'm Kim Parker and I'm a Nazi.

671
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

672
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: And then when I graduated from college, I started to

673
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: organize more with the group that I co found at

674
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: the Jacksville Community Actual Committee. We led the historic March

675
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: of the Streets thousands and thousands and thousands of people.

676
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: We fought against these horrible bills that the SANTIS has

677
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: passed down from anti union bills to HB one, which

678
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: was a bill that essentially would make it legal for

679
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: people to run us over with a car while protesting.

680
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: They struck that, but then they had other horrible stuff

681
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: that was in there. Even now, we're fighting against a

682
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: billion dollars jail project that they're trying to build here

683
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: in our city. It shaped so much of my content

684
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: because it's so much of my everyday life. On any

685
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: given day, we are doing some sort of organization for

686
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Speaker 4: the Jesua Community Action Committee. We have a meeting tonight

687
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: where we're going to go and talk with community about

688
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: doing an educational event about the new jail and why

689
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: we don't need a billion dollar jail. So when I

690
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: do my content, I always talk about my advocacy because

691
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: It's always something that I'm doing right, you know, I

692
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: can't leave it out because it's a daily thing for

693
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: me to be organizing in some fashion. The immigrant rights

694
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: work here. We are the jcc's helping kind of start

695
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 4: that up with gr the Jenexicville Immigrant Rights Alliance, and

696
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: that has been something that has been taken up a

697
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: lot in my time. So we've been posted about that.

698
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: So posting about the stuff that's happening with immigration it

699
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: helps our community organizations here because they're like, Okay, we're

700
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: getting the word out. Were getting the word out. We're

701
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: getting the word out. There's an event that we're having

702
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: this Saturday because of the things that are currently happening

703
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: in Gaza. And I'm talking about what's happening in Gaza.

704
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: But at the same time talking about what's happening in Gaza,

705
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: I'm telling people what they can do to fight back.

706
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: What you can do to fight back. You can go

707
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: to an event in your city, you can support Palestinian

708
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: organizing groups in your city. Here's a fire, this, that,

709
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 4: and that. So I feel as if if I'm talking

710
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: about an issue I never wanted to ever be a

711
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: person that was just a talker. If I'm telling you

712
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: all these horrible things. I can't leave you hanging with

713
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: just listening to all these horrible things. I have to

714
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: tell you how you can fighte that. Now, whether you

715
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: choose to go and organize and protest, that's up to you.

716
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: But I'm at least going to give you that option

717
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: to kind of get some of that frustration out and

718
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: not feel so helpless and be surrounded by community. So

719
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: my community organizing and my active as a work shapes

720
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: percent of my content, ninety nine percent of it because

721
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: I'm telling you all the horrible things that are happening

722
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 4: in the world. But I'm also telling you the ways

723
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: of which you can resist invite back.

724
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: Right, So we need to change your name and think

725
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: about using views and use.

726
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Speaker 4: It that seriously. Seriously.

727
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sorry to all the people who hated that,

728
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: And do you just that felt insulting?

729
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: After that I said that, I was like, but no,

730
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: but there needs to be one more tagline to this.

731
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Speaker 3: Yes, coming back to specifically about your social media path

732
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 3: and all of that. Which video or content was the

733
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: one that propelled your social media career?

734
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Speaker 4: Hmmm, I'd have to go back to the beginning. It

735
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: was a post about a mod arbery that entire that

736
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: entire segment of life was very frustrating for me because

737
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: we had Breonna Taylor, a mod Arbury, George Floyd. It

738
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: was kind of a powder keg that that led to

739
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: the rebellion. It wasn't just George Floyd dying, it was

740
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Speaker 4: George Floyd dying after Breonna Taylor had been killed, after

741
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: a mod Arbury had been run down by these white

742
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: supremacists and shot like he was a dog. And uploading

743
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: those videos for me was a way to kind of

744
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 4: one get the word out about what we were doing

745
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: because we protested all this stuff. I mean, we were

746
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: out in the streets, out of the streets, out of the streets.

747
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: That was kind of a way for me to get

748
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: out what the Jay Stacy was doing, what sts was doing,

749
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: how we were fighting back. But it was also a

750
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: way for me to vent these frustrations that I had

751
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 4: seeing these people be murdered. I mean, that's that's what

752
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: it was. I was so disturbed by vamade archery video.

753
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: I was so disturbed that Breonna Taylor could be shot

754
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: in her bed while she slept. I was so I

755
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 4: remember having to go to an emergency therapy appointment after

756
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: George Floyd's death, and I tear up even thinking about it. Now.

757
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: I was so disturbed at a full video. And that's

758
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 4: the beautiful part about technology. On TikTok, I'm seeing clips

759
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 4: of this video, this man screaming, I can't read. I

760
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: was just so disturbed. So posting those videos, sharing my

761
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: thoughts and sharing my opinions about what was happening and

762
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 4: how I felt about it, it just took. It just

763
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: made me go viral because people were like, Oh, this

764
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: is a this is a black woman. She's also an activist.

765
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 4: She's also talking about how she feels. She's also talking

766
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: about how I can get involved locally. Oh, I like

767
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: her follow follow fallow follow follow, and it seemed like

768
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: I went from like it seemed like I went from

769
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 4: a couple of thousand followers to one hundred thousand over night,

770
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: and then two hundred thousand, three hundred and now I'm

771
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 4: at eight hundred thousand. Honestly, y'all, it doesn't even feel

772
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 4: real like this, none of this. I mean, my husband

773
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: looked the other day, he said, you know, you're at

774
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: eight hundred thousand followers. I'm like, yeah, babe, and all

775
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: of it still seems surreal. But those videos kind of

776
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 4: talking about what was happening in the world, that really

777
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: kind of made me take off.

778
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, So your honesty and just yes, your love,

779
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 3: Like that's what it comes down to that you had.

780
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: There's such a like bittersweet about that. It's that, like

781
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: you deserve the recognition for your work, but the fact

782
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: that you had to do.

783
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: That in the name of justice, like it's just and

784
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: even today, like I know they're still talking about the

785
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: Breonna Taylor case, as they should because she has not

786
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: gotten her justice, as well as the fact that they

787
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: still try to paint the entire situation in such an

788
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: ugly matter where sill talking about the George Floyd case

789
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: because I know there was a conversation about an appeal,

790
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 3: which is that and then we know a mod operate

791
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: that it won't be long. I bet there's going to

792
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: be a conversation about that. And that was one of

793
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 3: the most blatant cases and a reminder for a lot

794
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: of everyone. But as great as Atlanta is, George is

795
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: not the same, you know, Like and even in Atlanta,

796
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: like it's not safe and it's a bittersweet moment to

797
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: know that that's what pushed you. Because I'm glad to

798
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: be following you, but I hate the circumstances that and.

799
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: The fact that you have to put in that work.

800
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: You should be recognized, but you shouldn't have to do all.

801
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: This work, like there's so many there's so many layers

802
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: that are like flip a table.

803
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: There's nothing good.

804
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding, I know, but that's what it feels like.

805
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: Every moment feels like a flip the table moment. And

806
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: there will be some times where I have to stop

807
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: recording the segments to scream. And this sounds really dramatic,

808
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: but I have been a community organizer for seven years.

809
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: It is like running through hell where every once in

810
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: a while you might get a water station. This is

811
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 4: hard work. So to do that and then have to

812
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: also not have to but choose to give out this news.

813
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: It's rough, and that's why I'm in a therapist chair

814
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: twice a week and working on myself. But yeah, it is.

815
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 4: Circumstances aren't great, but it needs to be done.

816
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: It needs to be done, yes, and we appreciate it

817
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: so much. Is there something that you wish you had

818
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: known when you started started this work at the beginning,

819
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: I wish I.

820
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 4: Would have known that coming into activism and coming into

821
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 4: community organizing, or even coming into news and use content,

822
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: you need to make sure that you take time to

823
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 4: recharge your mental health. You cannot just be out in

824
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: this world raw dogging it and like thinking you're not

825
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: going to be affected. I have bipolar disorderer. I've been

826
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: bipolar my entire life, but just got diagnosed seven years ago.

827
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: So it is imperative, especially for someone like me, to

828
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: ensure that my mental health is good. And I wish

829
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: and I'm grateful for my husband again because he got

830
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 4: me into therapy, but I wish when I started active

831
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: organizing and I started news abuse content on TikTok, I

832
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: wish I would have taken my mental health a little

833
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: bit more seriously. I do now, and I have for

834
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: the last couple of years, But even in twenty twenty,

835
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 4: that entire year affected me in ways that I didn't

836
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: know that I could be affected, and I realized I

837
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 4: needed to do a little bit more work. But to

838
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: anybody that is even thinking about getting into content creation

839
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: or thinking about getting into activism, if you're going to

840
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: be doing news and views, you need to make sure

841
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: that you sit your button a therapist chair at least

842
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 4: once a month. It does help.

843
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Hey man, we love therapy here.

844
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

845
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: And you know now that you're giving advice, let's to

846
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: just keep going with this. What's some advice you would

847
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: give others, especially black women, because we want more black

848
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: women to be a part of this conversation to get money,

849
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: to get platformed. We need them and we want to

850
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: see more of more of them grow. What is some

851
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: advice you would give? What is like when it comes

852
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: to creating this type of content and starting down the

853
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: road to a social media popularity fame.

854
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: I would say to make sure that you are prioritizing

855
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 4: yourself and prioritizing and having kind of a goal of

856
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: where you want this to go. When I was a

857
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand dollars I sat down and talked with

858
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: my husband and I said, I think I want to

859
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 4: do this, and I want to do this in a

860
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: way that is intense, and I want to do this

861
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: in a way that is maximum effort. Because be and bipolary,

862
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: I either have to do it or I'm not. And

863
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: that's just what it is. And so I remember telling

864
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: him this. And to any Black women that are thinking

865
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Speaker 4: about getting into content creation, stay the course, be consistent,

866
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: but please take time to prioritize your mental health. People

867
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: are really nasty. That's why I filter my comments and

868
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: I love a good block button. Get acquainted with that

869
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: block button. Get acquainted with those filtered comments, because people

870
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: are going to call you everything but a child of

871
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: God for just simply living your life fully and living

872
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: your life out loud. The people filter those comments, block

873
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: those people, focus on the positive, and prioritize your mental

874
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 4: health and your well being.

875
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Speaker 1: I love that.

876
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: Obviously, your work is very tiring and never ending, never ending, repeat,

877
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: But how do you choose what type of information to

878
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: speak on and what not to speak on?

879
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So I really look at things that affect black,

880
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: working class people, working class people in general, and I

881
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: talk about those things. So let's say there's like a

882
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: financial crisis that's happening. That's important for people to know.

883
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: You need to know what's going to happen, when it's

884
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: going to happen, and what's going on. Let's say there's

885
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 4: an instance where there's a new law that makes it

886
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: to where police have immunity to do whatever they want X, Y,

887
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: and z, that's important for us to know because that's

888
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: going to be affecting our communities. Let's say there's something

889
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: with Social Security or something with Medicare and Medicaid, that's

890
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 4: important for us to know. A lot of working class

891
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: people use these programs. One, Social Security is our right,

892
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: we pay into it. Medicare and Medicaid. This is the

893
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: closest we have to universal health care, and it's still

894
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 4: most of the time not good enough. So if you

895
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: if there's cuts that are happening that's going to affect

896
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 4: tens and tens of millions of people, they need to know.

897
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: So I try to do my best to focus on

898
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: news that affects working class people. Now, news I do

899
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: not cover. If something is like salacious where I know

900
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 4: it's going to upset people, not in a way that's

901
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: productive where people want to actually do stuff about it,

902
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 4: but in a way that is only going to cause

903
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: hate and division. I'm not going to cover it. I mean,

904
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: and it sounds and there's that's very Those stories are

905
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: very few and far between, so I try to do

906
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: my best, you know, not to cover them. But thankfully

907
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: there's a few and far between. But anything that is

908
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: going to cause my viewers to feel harmed. I just

909
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: try not to cover that. Again, you far between, But

910
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: I really focus on news that affects black, working class people,

911
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 4: working class people. Now I've been covering news that affects

912
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: the immigrant population as well. This is extremely important to

913
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: being my mother in law. I love her so much.

914
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 4: She's from the Philippines. She came here in her thirties.

915
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: People say horrible things about just anybody that's come here,

916
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 4: whether they're coming here legally, which no human being is illegal,

917
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: or they're coming here in a different former fashion. It

918
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: doesn't matter to these people. They're still going to demonize immigrants,

919
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 4: and we just can't deal with guys stand for that.

920
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: So I've been covering that as well. But a lot

921
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: of stuff I cover it affects working class people. In workers,

922
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 4: I'm in a union, so I love to cover anything

923
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: that has to do with public sector unions, even private

924
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 4: sector unions as well, So I try to do that too.

925
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: Hell yes, well, speaking of I guess negative reactions. Have

926
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: you had much pushback or negative reactions to your content?

927
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely. During the EE I told people, Hey, you

928
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: should not be going to this. One famous coffee company

929
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 4: and this one famous fast food restaurant to spike Palestidians

930
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 4: and third party voters because even with those votes, VP

931
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris won't want anyway. They dragged me for forty

932
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: days and forty nights over it. They were threatening to

933
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: call my job, they were calling me everything by the

934
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: Child of God, they were reporting my page, they were

935
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 4: making hate videos telling me to shut up. And I'm like,

936
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 4: I just told you not to support places that use

937
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: incarcerated people for labor, that us slaved labor, that kicked

938
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: out their employees because they were wearing Black Lives Matter pins,

939
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 4: that kicked out black men from their coffee shop because

940
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: they didn't want them lawyer in there and called the police.

941
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: And then I'm just telling you how this affects us

942
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: as black people, you know, And that's all I'm saying.

943
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: You can do what you want to do, but that's

944
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: all I'm saying. And they, I mean, it was nasty,

945
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: and it was so nasty, and the sad thing is

946
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: a lot of it was coming from people that were white,

947
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 4: and I was just like, listen, I get that we're

948
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: all upset about the election and all the work that

949
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: some of us are going to have to do because

950
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: if we're being honest, a lot of these people that

951
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: were going back to the coffee shop and going back

952
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 4: to the fast food restaurant and saying they're not going

953
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: to be doing this, not going to be doing that,

954
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: they weren't doing anything before the election. They just went

955
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 4: to the booth and clicked the buttons and boo boo,

956
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: which is fine, which just fine, but I mean it ugly.

957
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: I'm another thing that happens too. I'll cover stuff that's

958
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 4: happening internationally, So I'll cover sepal palsied all the time,

959
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 4: because why whatn't I right? This is something that's happening.

960
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 4: Those filter comments sometimes I'll click it and I'll believe,

961
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna hear it. I mean,

962
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 4: the racial tropes are nasty, people threatening me, people threatening

963
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: my family. And I'll report all the stuff too to TikTok,

964
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: and unfortunately it's not taken down. But these comments can

965
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: get so nasty. And that's why I do have to

966
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: filter comment options because I don't I don't want to

967
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: see what's going down in there. I only want to

968
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: curate positive positivity. Ninety five percent of my comments are positive,

969
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 4: five percent are nasty, hateful, gut or snite, disgusting. I

970
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: just gonna stay in the filter comments.

971
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: That's a smart play. Yeah, yes, don't have a look

972
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: at the filter.

973
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of have you, we've kind of heard some

974
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: snippets of this throughout our conversation, But have you gotten

975
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: to the point of balancing this work with your your

976
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: regular job and your everyday life.

977
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: I would say it's balanced. I would say I balanced

978
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: them fine. I would say I balance the TikTok world

979
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: and the community organizing my job being a mom. I

980
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: would say I balanced that fine. My husband says that

981
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: I sometimes I run around like a chicken with my

982
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 4: head cut off, and that's fine. I mean it's I

983
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 4: always tell them, like, Babe, I'm blipolar. There's no balance.

984
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 4: I will say, I'm very blessed in my biopolar journeys

985
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: to be medicative, so I really just get the highs

986
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: and know the highs. I'm like putting out ten stories

987
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 4: a day, doing this, doing this, doing this, and then

988
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: my loves are just like a regular feeling. So I'm

989
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: still able to put out my stories. But balance, no tolerable.

990
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I would say that I like that answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

991
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm existing.

992
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: Yes, i'ming. That's it.

993
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: That's just the.

994
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: Theme for the Linux four years, right, I'm existing. That's

995
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: that's a gift.

996
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm alive. I'm here. My daughter's happy and healthy,

997
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: my husband's happy and healthy. I'm happy and healthy.

998
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: I didn't like him snubbing in for you when you

999
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: were sick.

1000
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: Yes, he did a good He was so nervous. He's like,

1001
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 4: great this. I'm like, I have the flu. You could

1002
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: hear I don't know if you heard of it in

1003
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: the background of the video. I'm not coughinge my go

1004
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: requords a video. But yeah, he's he's as I love

1005
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 4: him so much.

1006
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 2: He did a great job.

1007
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: He did a great job.

1008
00:48:49,400 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 4: I'll tell so.

1009
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 3: And you kind of talked about this before, but I'm

1010
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: going to make it personal. With all the things that

1011
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 3: you've done and all the things that you continue to do,

1012
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: how do you disconnect from the doom's day feels of

1013
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: everyday life, Like what do you do to recharge so

1014
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: you can continue to deliver up to date information, and

1015
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: how do you take a break for yourself. This is

1016
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: such something that we have to ask all of our guests,

1017
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: especially those who put in work like this, so tell

1018
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 3: us how do you do this?

1019
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 4: Absolutely? So community organizing is the outlet that I need

1020
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: to get that frustration out. And because I'm in a community,

1021
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: and because we're organizing and we're having protests and we're

1022
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 4: having sit ins, and we're having educational events and movie

1023
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 4: screenings and fulling meet us, I don't feel so low.

1024
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: And that's what I'd be trying to sell people. I'm like,

1025
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: They're like, why don't you feel doom and glow? Because

1026
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: I community organize because I'm actively fighting against this problem, right,

1027
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 4: And because I'm actively fighting against this problem, I don't

1028
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: feel so bad, Like, yes, things are horrible, but because

1029
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm with the this group of people, because I'm with

1030
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: sometimes hundreds of people, thousands of people sometimes and sometimes

1031
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: it's only a handful of people, and we all feel

1032
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 4: the same way, and we're able to talk about it

1033
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 4: and we're able to brainstorm solutions about it, it does

1034
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: not feel that bad. That's why we're telling people you

1035
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: need to join an organization. If you feel like because

1036
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 4: of all the stuff that's happening, join an organization. It's

1037
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 4: still going to feel like eh, but you won't feel

1038
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: so weigh it down. Another thing that I do. I

1039
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: on Saturdays have been doing less videos, so I really

1040
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: do take that time to recharge, spend time with my family,

1041
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 4: spend time especially with my daughter and my husband. We

1042
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 4: go and do an activity where I'm not really on

1043
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 4: my phone a lot. So I try to do that

1044
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: for myself as well, and then I have to bring

1045
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: it up again therapy every two weeks. Shout out to

1046
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 4: Verrika Greyson. I sit in that chair and I sit

1047
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: there for fifty minutes, and it's just I feel bad

1048
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 4: for her because I mean it's fifty minutes every two

1049
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: weeks where I'm going and I'm working on myself and

1050
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: then I get massages too. That's nice.

1051
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's smart.

1052
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: I swear you're the second person this week. That's like

1053
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: what when I asked the question, how do you reachart

1054
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: to like I do more work?

1055
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 4: Like what?

1056
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I love it.

1057
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: I love it, but I'm just like, man, that was

1058
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: that was the opposite of what I was doing when

1059
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: I was sleeping.

1060
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I quit in a position of a sleep.

1061
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, but it is it makes me feel better.

1062
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: You gotta do what you gotta do, as Okay, and

1063
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: I have to ask this. This is for me personally.

1064
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: This is for me just in case TikTok, because I

1065
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: know we're under a thread again about it being bought out,

1066
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 3: being banned, whatever whatnot. If it does go into the abyss,

1067
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: where can we find you so we can keep supporting

1068
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: your work outside of TikTok.

1069
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm on YouTube as well. I post like all

1070
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: of my segments on YouTube on my podcast too, like

1071
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: so sometimes I'll post my segments on Spotify, which is

1072
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 4: really nice because some people don't want to be on

1073
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: TikTok and I respect that. So I do podcast daily

1074
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: Monday through Thursday ish, sometimes on Friday if there's something

1075
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: super important. But that's where you can find me. Now.

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Speaker 4: Do I think TikTok is going to be banned? No?

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Speaker 4: And I did do a story on how the trop

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Speaker 4: administration said they're going to keep extending it, kicking the

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Speaker 4: can down the road, kick that can, but keep TikTok

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Speaker 4: and the app stars and keep it. You know, he

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Speaker 4: wanted to band it in the first place.

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Speaker 1: So that's a story for right, that's yeah, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Some of all these problems were like this started in twenty.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen, literally like, come on now, but you're just having

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Speaker 4: people on memories.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm tired thinking about it. Well, this has been

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Speaker 2: such a delightful conversation. Obviously we were thrilled to have

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Speaker 2: you and your welcome back anytime. But outside of those outlets,

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Speaker 2: is there anywhere else the good listeners can find you

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Speaker 2: and support you.

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Speaker 4: No, just TikTok and then those other outlets, and you know,

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Speaker 4: those other outlets go down. I'm going to go back

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Speaker 4: to the grass question world.

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Speaker 1: So it's everything under a black belt, babe.

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Speaker 4: Yes, everything's under black belt babe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, listeners go check out all of that content.

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Speaker 2: So important, and thank you, thank you, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being here. This was such a delight.

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Speaker 4: Thank you all so much for having me. I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate it.

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