WEBVTT - Accountability?

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Oxford Dictionary, accountability is when you take

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<v Speaker 1>ownership of what happens as a result of your choices

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<v Speaker 1>and actions. But to put that in real context, accountability

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<v Speaker 1>is when you accept blame for the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>have done wrong and accept that you can influence the

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<v Speaker 1>healing of those things. When you accept that you can

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to the process going better for you and other people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when you don't pass responsibility onto someone else. It's

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't blame other people for the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you have done. It's when you literally own I made choices,

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<v Speaker 1>I did things that led to this outcome. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also know I have the influence to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>have an impact and make things go better moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and try not to think about it in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>right or wrong. Think about it like this. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with a friend and I take longer to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready than I said by the time we leave,

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<v Speaker 1>we pull out of my street and there's a police

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<v Speaker 1>officer there that pulls us over. My friend might turn

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<v Speaker 1>to me and say, this is your fault. Had we

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<v Speaker 1>left on time, this police officer would not have met

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Like did I do anything wrong? No? But

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<v Speaker 1>like am I accountable to the outcome of those decisions. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think accountability is when you just accept everything

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<v Speaker 1>good or bad, is a consequence of my choices and actions.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's important that we learned to take

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<v Speaker 1>accountability for positive things, which we tend to not do.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things you're going to experience in this

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<v Speaker 1>journey with Freddy is he started accepting accountability and responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for his flaws, but he had a very hard time

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<v Speaker 1>accepting responsibility for his positive traits and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>positive outcomes. And we all have a tendency to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is, accountability means you accept your role

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<v Speaker 1>in everything, be it good, be it bad, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You are accepting ownership that life is a consequence of

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<v Speaker 1>the things you do, the things you say, the way

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<v Speaker 1>you behave, and how you conduct yourself. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Family Therapy. I'm your host, Elia, Khannie. What's been better

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<v Speaker 1>since you listened to the previous episode? Today is spent

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<v Speaker 1>directly focusing on Freddie, who is Jay's father. I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>excited for us to spend this episode doing a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into Freddie's life because we're about to go on

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<v Speaker 1>a journey of fatherhood. We're going to learn about his childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>about his traumas, about his tragedies, about his mistakes he

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<v Speaker 1>made as a father, but more importantly, about his desire

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<v Speaker 1>to journey back and heal some of the family relationships

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<v Speaker 1>that were severed throughout his life. This journey's gonna be difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this conversation you're gonna start seeing the first

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<v Speaker 1>steps of a man trying to reclaim his family. Freddy,

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<v Speaker 1>what's been better since we last chatted?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man, you know, I just when I wake up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, I'd be like, I'll be blessed God

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<v Speaker 2>woke me up. Now the rest of the day is

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<v Speaker 2>up to me, So I gotta make the best of it.

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<v Speaker 1>As you wake up every day like thankful and blessed,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you notice? It gives you a clue that

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<v Speaker 1>things are going in a direction that you're pleased with.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it starts off and I make my cup

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<v Speaker 2>of coffee. That kind of you know, puts me in

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<v Speaker 2>a great move, you know what I mean? It starts

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<v Speaker 2>my deal. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, does that happen? Does that happen every day?

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<v Speaker 2>Practically? Yeah? Every morning? Yeah? Actually, yeah, I need that

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<v Speaker 2>little pickm get me start.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what else has been going in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>you please with?

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<v Speaker 2>Once I got to work, Uh my workload wasn't that that?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a big workload today? That said, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of repairs, I have one emergency. My my

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<v Speaker 2>thing went kind of smooth.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do to make sure your day keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going smooth?

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<v Speaker 2>I try to have a positive frame of mind. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I like a little little things annoy me, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like sometimes, uh, I let things annoy me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, aggrevate me like this just dog is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to aggrevate me. Now they want me a pedal go,

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<v Speaker 2>but I throw your mommy go go.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you keep a positive frame of mind?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you? How do you do that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we live in such a negative, harsh world. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hard. How do you how do you keep a

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<v Speaker 1>positive frame of mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I don't. I try to stay mellow, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I don't like that things good on

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<v Speaker 2>my skin, you know what I mean? Like like normally,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think like if I'm driving to work, its

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<v Speaker 2>might want to buy me blowing the horn. I just

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<v Speaker 2>pull over them and go past you know what I mean, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>And have you always been that way?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I you know I used to have road raided,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, being a car when when

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<v Speaker 2>I say the car was making a left turn, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to I want to make the term nowadays tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make a turn out, I slow down, now

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<v Speaker 2>make the turn, you know what I mean? Like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't it Ain't that serious, man, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't that serious. Some things people just take so seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, when they really have to.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you learn to be that way? I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you a really important question in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>But when did you learn to to stop being about

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<v Speaker 1>the rose raids and taking everything so serious? When did

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<v Speaker 1>you learn to be that way?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think about three or four years ago. Life

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<v Speaker 2>is too short to be angry at the world, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. How did you develop that mindset?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think about during this COVID time, so many

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<v Speaker 2>people leaving it, leaving this earth man, like wow, Like

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<v Speaker 2>almost every month, you know, either I had a tenor funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Or I heard about somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh I just passed away, you know, And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like wow, man. Like then I'd be seeing sometimes be

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<v Speaker 2>seeing some guys that you know, I went to high

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<v Speaker 2>school with, and he was like, damn, man, you look

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<v Speaker 2>you look the same like you you ain't you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>since high school. And then I'll be saying, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of my mind, like I can't sit

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<v Speaker 2>there and you look, you look, you know, look look

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<v Speaker 2>saying too he looked like ninety nine, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. But you know, I thank God for that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, the little gray heads, And

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<v Speaker 2>I thank God for that because like there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>my my people I grew up with that I went

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<v Speaker 2>to high school. They you know, they already gone, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I got, I gotta be thankful for that

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<v Speaker 2>because like it was one time in my life, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just living from hour to hour, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I was just so much stuff, man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one time I was I was this, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the true story. I could an start crying out. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and a few of the fellass on the block.

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<v Speaker 2>We was, uh we had a beef with some Jamaican guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. The one is to make

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<v Speaker 2>guys pull up, stop busting shots. So we were running,

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<v Speaker 2>he busting shots and stuff. Right, So we get we

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<v Speaker 2>get home, I said, and if I get hit, nobody hit. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I look at I looked at my shirt. I

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<v Speaker 2>got all these holes in it. I'm like like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, How the hell my shirt

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<v Speaker 2>have holes in it? And I don't got no holes

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Everybody looking at me, like you sure you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>You're bro mine. You know, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>was running so fast my shirt wasn't it like like Batman,

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<v Speaker 2>if that was a situation or not, But oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like it was. It was his mind bothered,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. You know, I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>so many such and gold things in my life, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just lived so recklessly, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just be amazed. I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an incredible story. Even if you were running in

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<v Speaker 1>your clothes, you know, got caught in the air like

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<v Speaker 1>Batman's cape, that still means the bullets came super close.

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<v Speaker 2>To you hit me. Thank God for that, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, Freddy. It makes me think you must, after all

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<v Speaker 1>the things you survived, you must really know that time

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<v Speaker 1>is precious.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, indeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that why because the last time we talked, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that was really important he was reconnecting

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<v Speaker 1>with your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is why.

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<v Speaker 1>Reconnect with your kids is so important.

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<v Speaker 2>Not basically, yeah, but that's primarily not the only reason,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I'm a fairy family oriented person. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as like where I was raised. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was raised with both my parents. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>bet tremendous, I would say childhood. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>never remember the day I didn't get nothing for my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we wasn't rich, rich, but it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>place I don't ever remember we was going Hongry, or

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<v Speaker 2>we ain't had a fool or you know, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, you know, and I think my father he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't how would I say, uh, no emotional or like

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't really always say uh expresses as his love

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Verbally, he expresses his love for me like

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<v Speaker 2>uh being there taking me places. Uh. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>like I used to, I used to hate coming home

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<v Speaker 2>sometime because I used to come home in my house

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<v Speaker 2>be full of full of kids and people, and and

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<v Speaker 2>I never realized my father used to take like we

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<v Speaker 2>used to live in the projects, and he used to

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<v Speaker 2>like rind little little buses and you know, take kids

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the beach with us and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to hate it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the time, I didn't realize until I got older,

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<v Speaker 2>while he was doing those types of things, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And and once I realized, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you little, you want your father to be uh solely

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all his attention on you, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>he got all these other kids, but you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he got a watch and and stuff like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I didn't realize that at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>those those kids probably didn't have a father and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>take them nowhere, you know what I'm saying. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was and I didn't realize that until I got old.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember when we first got a color TV

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<v Speaker 2>in our house and and I don't think, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>big floor of models with the record player, and my

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<v Speaker 2>house is always full with people, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't you know half of them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's from TV for TV color TVs person came out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I don't think half the people really

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<v Speaker 2>even had colored TVs. Then you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize all that stuff I got older, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Like, ah, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And I just hate people always knocking on my door

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<v Speaker 2>to want to bow sugar or bread and I my

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<v Speaker 2>parent open that door. Look see who that is? I dow.

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<v Speaker 2>I just slam the door in people's faces and it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't got it, we don't got who was that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. Somebody want to ball some bridge,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like over that door boy, over up back

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<v Speaker 2>door boy.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last time we talked, you actually talked about

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. You just said like you're a family man,

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<v Speaker 1>or you grew up a family man, and your father

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't all lovey dovey, but he was like there and

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<v Speaker 1>you said you wanted to be there in your kids' lives.

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<v Speaker 1>What what are you doing now to take to take

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<v Speaker 1>steps to be that in your kids lives, in your

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<v Speaker 1>grandkid's life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, be perfectly honest with you, I haven't. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done anything since we talked. Uh. I suppose I went

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, to go see my grandkids, but something

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<v Speaker 2>came up which I couldn't really put that to the

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<v Speaker 2>side because it wasn't that repressing, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>something you know I'd done. But I could have put

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<v Speaker 2>that to the side. And like sometimes like I let things,

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<v Speaker 2>uh sid sidetracking him, I might say, I facetimed there

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<v Speaker 2>and she didn't answer the FaceTime. So then my friend

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<v Speaker 2>and he lives like well maybe ten fifteen minutes away

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<v Speaker 2>from me, and and he said that he didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>no heat in his house. I said, oh, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>and he really don't know about the furnace that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>powerl like going out and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We set the furnace. So I said, I'll be over

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<v Speaker 2>there in about you know, you don't live like fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>but I said, I'll be there in a minute. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I jumped in the corner and went to

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<v Speaker 2>his health you know, and and all you know it

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, the friends like you know, went out.

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<v Speaker 2>So after that we sat up stairs and had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of beds and started talking and I came home.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of hanging out with your daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so I could, like I said, I could

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<v Speaker 2>have went there, did the furnace and just left and

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<v Speaker 2>did what I was supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>How come you let those things distract you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to continue being the family man? And

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<v Speaker 1>is it still important to you to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of your kids' lives?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you gonna know when things have changed to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where you're not being distracted by those other

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<v Speaker 1>things and being in your children's lives is more important

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<v Speaker 1>than any of those other things that come up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my my my intentions was just to go there

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<v Speaker 2>and just to lighten, uh, to see what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And once I realized that, you know, the power light

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<v Speaker 2>was out, it was you know, it was not extremely crazy,

0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.360
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But I should have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have just lit the power light and uh

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<v Speaker 2>and got my card and did what I was was

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of my day was going to be planning

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it that keeps you out of your children's lives?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I lose focused on a lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, allow things to interfere like

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<v Speaker 2>I would like, lose focused like I was, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>said when I first got my cars, that I come

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<v Speaker 2>over there. In my mind, I go to the south

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<v Speaker 2>and knock it out, get back to my car and

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<v Speaker 2>go up north. But when I got there, I just

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<v Speaker 2>lost focused on what I was my intentions, but was

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<v Speaker 2>That's my main issue, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 2>let things sidetrack me, or allow people to sidetrack what

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna do? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think that impacts your children when they

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<v Speaker 1>know you'll get sidetracked and not be connected to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's been extremely devastating to them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>primarily because that's been my issue. Basically, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>follow up on what I'm gonna say I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. I might might make an

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<v Speaker 2>appointment to do something or make some type of arrangement,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't just follow up, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where my main issue, just to follow up on

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<v Speaker 2>my promises. And nine times our tendant don't even be

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<v Speaker 2>that sidetrack me. Don't even be like thight threatening or

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<v Speaker 2>extreme emergency or anything of that nature, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty would you be pleased to be that way? Like? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if you started making promises specifically and especially to your

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<v Speaker 1>kids and following up on those promises, would you be

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<v Speaker 1>pleased to be that kind of a person.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and I think that probably would change our whole

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic of our relationship, you know, because I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>primarily the main issue where I'm filling with them. At

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<v Speaker 2>always tell her so I'm gonna I'm gonna be better

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<v Speaker 2>with this and better with that, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I still find out Damn, I'm still the same way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like I said, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do this, and I all sure of doing it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and my fiance, Oh, she always telling me, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you sposed it went up north? Today? I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I oppose that went, but I ain't go.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one of your kids? Were you gonna go visit?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I was gonna go to j.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. How did she respond when you didn't show up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think she was kind of upset with me

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<v Speaker 2>because I called her yesterday. I tried to FaceTime and

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't answer the FaceTime call. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if she was busy or if she was like upset

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<v Speaker 2>with me, because I haven't really talked to her since then.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think it would do to Jay to

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<v Speaker 1>have you actually showing up and following up with your word.

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<v Speaker 2>A bigger pheel like I'm dependable. I'm a man of

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<v Speaker 2>my word, you know what I'm saying. But I said

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be here, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think you would do to Jane and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your kids, even if you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>things like that for them, if you were like showing

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<v Speaker 1>up for them and helping them with their fixtures and

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<v Speaker 1>their pools and their kids and their you know, kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>appliances or whatever like, what would it do to Jane

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of your kids to have you show

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<v Speaker 1>up for them like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I pulled you going to Jack Wheee house and

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<v Speaker 2>building this burrow, which I pulled. I pulled that. She

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<v Speaker 2>asked me to do it, I think like a month ago,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Uh, And I haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 2>around to that yet. Jay does eyebrows and all that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. So she she wanted me to fix

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<v Speaker 2>a fix a room downstairs on basement. So I built

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<v Speaker 2>the room, put the floor down, painted, and now she's

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<v Speaker 2>able to do you know, she got a place for

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<v Speaker 2>her to do her eyelashes for people. So then she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me to build another room, which I started. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're waiting on some more fundings. Uh, to finish

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I built the other room. I put uh a bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>down there and a toilet, a sink.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you do all that?

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<v Speaker 2>About two months ago? Well, I'm not really finished yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I still the project is delayed of none on my account. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Her car broke down, so she had to buy a

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<v Speaker 2>new car, so that kind of took some of the

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<v Speaker 2>fundings away from doing the room. So she said, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when things picked back up, she's gonna we're gonna start

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<v Speaker 2>back doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think it does to day when

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<v Speaker 1>you show up for her consistently like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because like she'd be working with me, explained

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<v Speaker 2>to her how to do it step by step with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we just work nine times out of ten, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it together, you know, and I'll be telling I

0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of do I kind of go do things like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we could have that quality time together. So

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<v Speaker 2>like when the project is completed, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>It's nothing like putting your effort into something and then

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<v Speaker 2>when it's completed, you say, well I did that. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, wait, you just said something brilliant. Say that

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<v Speaker 1>one more time to sort to make sure I heard it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like say that it one more.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, like me and her tackling a project when it's

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<v Speaker 2>completed and you said to yourself, well, me and my

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<v Speaker 2>dad did that, you know what I mean? Or we

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<v Speaker 2>did this together, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's nothing like when you put forth the effort

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<v Speaker 1>and you see your task completed. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And can I be totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Honest with you, Sure you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out how do I get Freddy

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<v Speaker 1>to work harder to be more connected to Jayden and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the kids. But starting with Jape, how

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<v Speaker 1>can I do that? How what can we do to

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<v Speaker 1>help you work harder to make those relationships happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think now, like I said once, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>make sure if I say a bix of type of

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<v Speaker 2>arrangements for to do anything with any of my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta make sure that that time is solely for them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I don't have no things

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<v Speaker 2>to overlap it or nothing that's gonna intervene with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta make sure that my schedule is arranged just

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to figure out a way for you to

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<v Speaker 1>do something for Jake that would look to her like

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<v Speaker 1>you keeping your word anything. What could it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Mhmm? Well, I was thinking I was just gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>there on Saturday and just knock on the door, you

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.879
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like you know I'm here, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Okay, because I don't. I'm afraid

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, Jay, I'm gonna be there on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>and and I don't show up, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't have that happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how about we do the opposite. How about we say, hey,

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:48.400
<v Speaker 1>jam up on Saturday, and then you do everything humanly

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:53.640
<v Speaker 1>possible to show up, not get distracted nothing. I'm going

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to show up because she needs to know you can

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>do that. You need to know you can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>So how about we do that. Let's tell her I

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<v Speaker 1>will show up on Saturday. She's probably gonna say I doubted, no,

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 1>you ain't, blah blah blah whatever. But then when you

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>show up on Saturday, she'll be like he did it,

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and you'll be able to say you did it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I cant explained to you. I wanted to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you something that occur. My grandson's birthday was two days ago,

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 2>and uh, it kind of it kind of broke my

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 2>heart too, uh in a way because we was getting

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 2>through Facebook and they were singing happy his mother was

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 2>singing Happy birthday Tom, you know, to k in front

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:50.399
<v Speaker 2>of him on at the table and the computer facing

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>him with like seven people on it, their aunt's, uncle's

0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 2>cousins or whatever, you know, on the room call. You know,

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Wow, I said to myself, Wow, I

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't even I didn't even get an invite, you know

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So I'm like, what what that tells me?

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>That's his grandfather? You know what I mean? Yeah, you

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 2>know I am not even part of his life. He's

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 2>only five years old, you know what I mean?

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 2>And so I said to myself, you can't blame nobody

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 2>but yourself, you know what I mean. You can't feel bad.

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 2>You can't go in the corner and describe, you know

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. You can't blame nobody. So what you

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna do about that? What you're gonna do about next

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>year when he turned six? You know what I mean? Uh,

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Well you're gonna you know, is it gonna be anything

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 2>different than right now? The way you feel me?

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean like and you'd like it

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>to be different next year.

0:24:55.960 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so. And the primary stuff I take the hard ones,

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.479
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. They're not hard ones, right,

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, and like uh, then but like seven buttons

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 2>on the on the phone, you know, I used to

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 2>talk to them all time on on what's side, you know,

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like last year, you know what I mean, which have

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 2>a few things have probably developed from now to then,

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like uh. And sometimes people

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>take harsh measurements for the littlest reasons, you know, like

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:42.719
<v Speaker 2>they like over over five hours over I forgot, I

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 2>forgot to do that, you know what I mean, And

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 2>they take hard, harsh measurements over that. And then you'd

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 2>be like, damn, was it was it that serious? Saying? So?

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not to me, it wasn't that serious, but they

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 2>might have been seriously hell to them, that's all, you know.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 2>Little you'll be like judgmental with things, you know what

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean. I don't that don't bother me. But that

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 2>ship filled the ship out of somebody else, you know,

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 2>like and.

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<v Speaker 1>Freddy, it's making me think about something. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta ask you a really hard question. Yeah I know

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<v Speaker 1>I do, man, I'm sorry, but how come you left

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and went to Florida?

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think we I went to Disneyland and just

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Florida, you know what I mean? You know,

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about my life. Wasn't really that that

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>bad in Jersey. Let me tell you the story. Will

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>happened to this guy that I was talking to before. Yeah,

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>he's worked for for seven years and like he buy

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 2>houses and buildings or whatever you know, and just going

0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>gout them out whatever whatever figures back up, you know,

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:06.239
<v Speaker 2>and he has timeshare in Florida. So like he said, well, y'all, look,

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do for for vacations? I don't know. Yeah, man,

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>it's so I said, love to take the kids to

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 2>this man. He said, well, okay, I got probably down there.

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, what you mean, I probably probably like down

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>you know you're going go you know STADIU. I'm like,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 2>this guy is something now, you know what I mean. Anyway,

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Sorry for we get we pack up to playing tickets

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 2>and everything go do somewhere for two weeks. So when

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 2>we was down there, it was like, I don't know,

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just this measurment rize, Like you know, this is

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 2>my first time being in Florida. But it was just

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know, I don't know, maject, I don't know.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 2>It just got me. And she was somewhat overwhelmed too,

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I think. And so we went to the roster and

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 2>they started sitting us proper. Uh when we got back

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 2>to back home. So there's one particular while week we

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 2>liked and and the numbers was pretty decent. It was

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, so we moved to Florida. We ain't know

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 2>nobody down So this me and her and the kids,

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>when we just moved to Florida. That's the story of Florida.

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Why while you were in Florida, how come you didn't

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>stay in contact with Jason and the other kids.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I don't really, I don't even know why

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>If I if I showed you a way to fix that,

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>how happy would you be?

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeh yeh uh so happy I probably would. Uhh.

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I think one time I was in I was in

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Vegas and I was I was doing that, oh, playing

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the slot machine and you hear those balls go up.

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>That's if you like, yeah, like you know, you know

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, I'll be a winner, you know what

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Freddy, I really want to help you with that.

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to help you be a winner.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>All right, cool sounds great.

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to ask you to do something hard, though, sir. Okay,

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>do you remember earlier in our conversation when you said

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you said, like something small will happen, like even something

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>like five dollars. Yeah, and it might not be a

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>big deal to you, but it'll be a big deal

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to them, and it makes it hard. You remember saying that.

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the reasons it's hard is because

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>they are hurt by something you in the past. So

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>even though this new thing might be small, it's kind

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of compounded with the other stuff to them. Does that

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>make sense, Yeah, it makes sense. I want to ask

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to show you how to fix that. And

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you already know because you keep saying things

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like I just want to know them and be a

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>part of their lives, and I the way to do

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>that is you have to keep calling them.

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, and I don't. I don't, I think, And

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>somebody else told me, uh uh hm, that's the same.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I gotta do you know what I mean? At first,

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>they told me before you quote have your conversation drawing

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>out in your mind ready that you haven't gonna do

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 2>a play. Now you the first play that you are

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you're right, and in the conversation it's gonna be a

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>good one as far as the conversation will go. Well,

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna uh laughing joke and it's gonna be a

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>good conversation. And when you're gonna see some you know,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>development from the conversation that you that you you have.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 2>And then on this side, you guys have to play

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>a not so good conversation uhh, argument to uh m

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>hm for fanity the whole whole ten yards, you know.

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>So now you gotta uh h have yourself in a

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>fixation where umhu, you're gonna have the answer for that

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>or not the answer at that time. But not be

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>uh uh for a victim of the anger and the things.

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>You got to be able to be able to understand

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>it and take it in and use it and work

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>with it and not you know, be volunteer or or

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>explode over you know what I'm saying. Because they are

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>releasing their feelings and their emotion and the pain that

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 2>they probably have been built up in their lives for

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty years. You know, and sometimes you know, uh, your

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 2>reaction can't be mum, a hate for one, you know, yeah,

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 2>of course, and you know, you guys be able to

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 2>be able to suck it in because you did wrong,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you you hurt, you hurt somebody, and they

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>releasing their pain. They got to release their pain so

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 2>they can heal, you know, and and and you've got

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>to be atle to that. And sometimes you know, mum hum,

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm fighting with as far as that conversation,

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:10.719
<v Speaker 2>because like, uh, I go over, I go over the

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>conversation in my mind, you know, and I was like,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>if I'm over it, stand for all that, you know

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, if I ain't gonna be a you know,

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>to take the pain that they have and and exhorbit

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and work with it, you know what I mean. I

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>know I pause every part of it or majority of it,

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>and one aspect of another. But therefore, can I be

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 2>accountable for my mistakes? You know what I mean?

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Do they know that you want to be accountable for

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>your mistakes?

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>You know? I think I at one time or another, I

0:33:54.320 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>expressed my feelings, you know, damn you know, you know,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know I messed up and some aspect

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 2>of your life, but I try to justify it or

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>oh look you still turned out. Okay, you know what

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Just to eat my pain, you know this,

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>ease my you know what I mean, my guilt, You

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's let's see if we can do that in

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a better way, Freddie. And what I want you to do,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to think about like the two conversations,

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like you were just saying. What I want you to

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>do is I want you to call each of the

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>seven kids. And before you do, I want you to

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>remind yourself of the reason you're calling them, which is

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to be in their lives. So if they express pain, hurt,

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>just remember I'm just trying to be present in their lives.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I want them to experience their father. I want the

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>grandkids have access to the grandfather, and I want you

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to have them in your life. And I want you

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to just remind yourself like I'm only doing this because

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in their lives, and that when

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.439
<v Speaker 1>you think about it in that way, then it won't

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>matter whether they're angry or happy or excited. None of

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that stuff matters, because you just want to get to

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>know them, and it might start with them being angry

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 1>because there's been hurt there. And there's a part of

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you that is so eloquent. There's a part of you

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that accepts like I probably cause some hurt and I'm

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>willing to acknowledge that, and a lot of people don't

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>say that. I want them to get to know that

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>part of their father. But you're gonna have to keep

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>showing up in order for that to happen. So my

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>challenge for you is between now and the next time

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>we meet, I want you to reach out to all

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>seven kids. Can you do that?

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna do that, and.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Then we're going to figure out a way to keep

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>that going so that you are in their lives.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not a hard thing to do. And then it's like, uh,

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 2>you get so caught up in your daily day activities

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like, Oh, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it,

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm do it, and that i'm gonna do it never

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>comes you know what I mean?

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and exactly what you said before, and then before

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>you know it, two three weeks have gone by. But

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hold you accountable. I want you to call

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>each of the seven kids between now and the next

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 1>time we meet, and before you have each phone call,

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I just want to remind yourself why you're doing this,

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>because I just want to be a part of their lives. Okay, okay,

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Freddie was wonderful to talk to you, man.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 2>And likewise, man, likewise, appreciate your.

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Fatherhood is the man's ability to live up to the

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>parental responsibilities that they have. It's having an influence on

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>your children. It's being there for your children. It's being

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>able to sacrifice for the betterment of your children. Fatherhood

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>represents all of those things, and for one reason or another,

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>those things were a significant challenge throughout Freddie's life. I

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>think the absentee father idea in the black community is very,

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>very prominent, and in some cases I think overstated and exaggerated. However,

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Freddie represents the stereotype of the absentee father, but he

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>also represents what I think is very often understated, which

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>is the outlier to that stereotype, which is the father

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that wants to create healing and reconnection and loves his

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>children even in adulthood, and wants to mend things and

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>takes act ability to acknowledge his flaws and acknowledges his

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 1>role in whatever has gone wrong. If Freddie were listening

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to this, I would want to make sure he continues

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>to make himself available to his children and whatever emotions

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>these children want to express to him as he tries

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>to reconnect. If you're a father in a similar situation,

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to go through this process without expecting to

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable, but also making the decision to be consistent,

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>which is I'm going to call my children. I'm going

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 1>to reach out to my children. I'm going to text

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>my children, and even if the response is negative and

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>or angry, I'm going to reach out again. I'm going

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 1>to reach out again. I'm going to reach out again.

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>The thing that children need to see as you work

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>on becoming dependable and consistent in their life is dependability

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and consistency. They need to know that you're not going

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 1>to be gone again. So you have to show up

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.839
<v Speaker 1>even when it's hard, even when it's uncomfortable, even when

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you know that the conversation is going to go poorly.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>And if you can do that, you have the opportunity

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and you have a reasonable chance of healing those difficult relationships.

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Forgiving yourself is one of the most important skills in

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>terms of mental health and healing. And the reason this

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is true is because no one is perfect, so everyone

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>is going to make mistakes of varying degrees, and if

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't forgive yourself for those mistakes, then you end

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 1>up having guilt, remorse, shame, resenting yourself. You end up

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>self sabotaging progress. You've got to accept that you are

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a flawed human being and as a consequence, have made

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>mistakes along the journey, and understand that you have the

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>ability to correct, mend, and heal from those mistakes. Forgiveness

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is the greatest gift you will ever give yourself, and

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>it is a gift that literally every single human being

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>on the planet needs to know how to give themselves.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>It's very, very important to honor the past and to

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge the past, but to not allow the past to

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>determine what you do in your future. In some ways,

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>we have to release ourselves from that past so that

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>we can create a different and in a lot of ways,

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>more positive future. One of the biggest mistakes that we

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>make is we think about our past and we have

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.280
<v Speaker 1>these negative experiences, remorse, regret, all those sorts of things

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>and we allow ourselves to make current decisions from the

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 1>perspective of remorse and regret, and you can't do that.

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>You've got to just forgive yourself that had happened and

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>do the very best you can moving forward. Now, we're

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>never going to forget the past, and it should always

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>inform what we do, but not from a place of fear,

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>not from a place of regret, but instead from a

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>place of hope. If you can remember something went wrong

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.240
<v Speaker 1>in the past, and I have a lot of hope

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<v Speaker 1>that I can make that situation better in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's how you make decisions moving forward. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how you release the past and become the best

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<v Speaker 1>version of yourself today. If you are a father who

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<v Speaker 1>has experienced an estranged situation from your child, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>separated from your child from one reason or another, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope this episode would inspire you, and in fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you to reach out to those children,

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<v Speaker 1>text them, call them, send an email, begin the process

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<v Speaker 1>of reconnecting those relationships. And we hear at the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Effect would love it if you would share those stories

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<v Speaker 1>with us by commenting on social media. Commenting after you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the podcast, or reaching out to us in

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<v Speaker 1>some other way, but we would love to hear those stories.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not just a podcast that I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to consume and be entertained by. I actually want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be inspired. I want you to be impacted by this,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, we can't help but be impacted by

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<v Speaker 1>the content we consume. So what I would like for

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<v Speaker 1>you to do is come on this healing journey with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on this journey of change rediscovery with us. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way to do that is to just pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to the things going on in your life as a

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<v Speaker 1>consequence of listening to this podcast. Pay attention to things

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<v Speaker 1>in your life shifting in a more desirable way. Pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to your desirable outcome becoming your reality. Pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to evidence of your success, your resilience, and your strength.

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<v Speaker 1>And let us know in the comments what you're noticing

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<v Speaker 1>in your life as a result of listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and as a result of paying attention to these things.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear from you about your healing journey,

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<v Speaker 1>your family, and your feedback. Leave a review, send a DM,

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