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He 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: had home runs in five consecutive games during this road 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: trip and then overall sixth total on this road trip 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: for the Marlins and indispensable player, and even before that, 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't just about this recent stretch. For really most 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: of this twenty twenty three season, the first third of 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: the season, that's exactly where we are here on Memorial Day. 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: He's been excellent. He's been one of the most valuable 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: players on this entire team. You look at it in 78 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: the aggregate, and even including last year that was his 79 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: first year with the Marlins, you can make the case 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: that he has been one of the very best free 81 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: agent signings that the Marlins have made in a long, 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: long long time. Just so you could see this full 83 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: picture here, he is a stat cast darling near the 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: top of the heap. In his max exit velocity, you 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: knew you were getting that with so lair this year, 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: he's just been a really good overall hitter. The slugging 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: has been off the charts, and he's even getten by 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: most measures. A little bit unfortunate with some of that slugging, 89 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: you would have thought this is finally his recent stretch 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: is some of that luck catching up to him and 91 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: finally getting the results he deserves because he's done a 92 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: great job getting the ball in the air, hitting it 93 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: as hard as ever, getting it on the barrel almost 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: as much as anybody in baseball. Still striking out quite 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: a bit, but not quite as much as his career norms. 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: There's been a little bit of improvement. There's just enough 97 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: athleticism as a base runner and as a fielder to 98 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: make him viable. There was a stretch, especially in April, 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: where I was wondering, is see a full time DH 100 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and that has some of its 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: consequences on a roster no matter how well you hit. 102 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: That's why it's been so encouraging to seat recently, where 103 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: especially on the road, he can play the outfield almost 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: every other day for this Marlins team. Really allows them 105 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: to fill out the rest of the roster with complimentary 106 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: pieces in that regard makes him just more valuable overall. 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: So you look at his overall numbers as a Marlin, 108 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: you need include last year. You can't just dismiss last year. 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: They were they were trying to win, and for most 110 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: last year they didn't have him, and even when he 111 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: was on the field, he was mildly disappointing, but yet 112 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: still better than the average marlinsitter. You combine in the 113 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: last two years, he's at thirty home runs as a 114 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Marlin in one hundred and twenty four games. It's a 115 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: pretty terrific pace considering where they play their home games. 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: A slash line of two twenty seven, three nine four sixteen, 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: so about in terms of weighted grums created plus, I 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: think he's about fifteen percent better than the league average hitter. 119 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: And for twelve million dollars a year that was his deal. 120 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: He's in the second year of a three years, thirty 121 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: six million dollar deal. We'll talk later episodes about this 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: pending opt out that he has and what the Marlins 123 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: should do about it. Long story short, there's not much 124 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: that they can do because he is playing so well 125 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: in the second year that the way his contract is structured. 126 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: This might be his final year with the Marlins, if 127 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: he even makes it through the year at all. In 128 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: terms of appreciating him right now, you have to say 129 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: that this has been a good signing by Kim Ang 130 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: in the front office. It's been a while since we 131 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: can really definitively say that about any free agent. This 132 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: team's track record in free agency has been just egregiously 133 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: bad every time they've tried to spend money. You know, 134 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: we're critical about how the Marlins have been relatively cheap organization, 135 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: especially since Bruce Sherman took over. Recently, they have been 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: generally like gradually getting more and more competitive financially a 137 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: little bit. They've been trying more and yet it knows 138 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: have not yielded the results. A lot of things that 139 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: have gone well for this team have not really come 140 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: down to spending money or more than they used to spend. 141 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: In this history, it does go back even further than 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: the Bruce Sherman era. You could go to a lot 143 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: of this Jeffrey Laurier era, especially the final half decade 144 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: or so, and when they tried to spend money, it 145 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: just did not materially improve the team, and in some 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: cases made them a whole lot worse. So most of 147 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: the show, I'm just gonna be scrolling through this list 148 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Curtsey of Cots Baseball Contracts of Marlin's major league free 149 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: agent signings in reverse chronological order, just going one by one, 150 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: and you can stop me when you think you see 151 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: signing that was better than what the Jorge Solair won 152 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: has been. Solair being in every day middle of the 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: order bat all things considered a slightly above average everyday 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: player for this team, and even though it doesn't seem 155 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: like anything to write home about a borderline All star 156 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: this year, that is a lot better than they've gotten 157 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: from any free agent signing in a long time. Just 158 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: scrolling through these this past offseason, Jean Cigaret, Johanni Quato, 159 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: both of them abject disasters for different reasons. In the 160 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: same offseason they signed so Lair, they signed Avi Garcia 161 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: that has been on the same level of disastrous considering 162 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: the money that they spent him, where remember, Afi got 163 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: an extra year compared to Solair and a slightly higher 164 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: average annual value. The previous offseason with Anthony Bass is 165 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: an interesting legacy where his Marlin's career got off to 166 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: an awful start in his first appearance, and then really 167 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: his first few weeks, choking away winnable games one after 168 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: the other after the other. For most of that twenty 169 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: twenty one season, he was fine. Then in twenty twenty two, 170 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: for up until the Marlins traded him, he was fantastic. 171 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: That was a two year, five million dollar deal that 172 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: I think, all things considered, he made good on that. 173 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: But as I'll notice as I go through this, I 174 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: am kind of down on relievers in general and feel 175 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: that their impact can be somewhat overstated when we actually 176 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: look at how they impact winning overall for a team. 177 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: So with him the inconsistency at the start of that 178 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season, I feel that so Lair is 179 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: already he has and he's certainly on track to be 180 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: a more impactful player. I'm not really taking value into 181 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: consideration here in terms of efficiency of the money spent. 182 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at players that actually made the team 183 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: significantly better during their tenure. So Bass was fine all 184 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: things considered. I do have Solai slightly ahead. This is 185 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: a perfect list for Cots because they don't have Adam Duval, 186 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: and Duval is an interesting one to look back on. 187 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: He only spent one year with mar Well not even 188 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: one year, because they traded him at the deadline of 189 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: his first year. Some similarities to Solier in terms of 190 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: the run production. In the home run power. He had 191 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: twenty two home runs in less than a full season 192 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: before the Marlins dealt him, and he was a big 193 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: time run producer. He couldn't get on base, but he 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: really pleasantly surprised with his ability to play center fields 195 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: when needed and his overall defense and the corners. Even 196 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: though he didn't get on base, like he just stepped 197 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: up in important situations. So by win probability added, I 198 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: guess when it all plays out, he was actually slightly 199 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: negative in terms of WPA, but in terms of war 200 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: he was about a two to win player in four months, 201 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: not even four months. That was a good signing for 202 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: the team. I have it a little bit short just 203 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: because of the lack of tenure. If he had spent 204 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: that whole twenty twenty one season with the team, then 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: maybe you were view it slightly differently. That was a 206 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: nice hit for the team. But also during then, going 207 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: back to the previous offseason, Corey Dickerson disappointment a two 208 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: bit role players that were both really great in those 209 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: roles where Brandon Kinsler and Francisco Cirtbelly Savelli had turned 210 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: out being the last year of his career. He just 211 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: wasn't on the field very much because of the shorn 212 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: schedule and because of a concussion. When he was on 213 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: the field, he was awesome and it was highly regarded 214 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: for what he did behind the scenes with that team. 215 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: When it comes to Kinsler, the peripherals were kind of 216 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: scary during that year when he was the Marlins closer. However, 217 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: he converted every single save that he attempted to make. 218 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: It was he was really important for that team that, 219 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: similar to the twenty twenty three team, was limited offensively, 220 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: played a whole lot of close games when they were 221 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: actually ahead, and they really couldn't afford much margin for 222 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: error from their high levelge relievers. So Kinseler was great 223 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: because that season was so short, you can't wait it 224 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: the same as the other ones. If it was a 225 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: full length season Kinseler pitched quite like that, then it's 226 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: another interesting conversation to have. But I still have so 227 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Lair as the better signing overall. So you have in 228 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: previous years when the Marlins were in the rebuilding stage. 229 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: You have some relievers and some veteran part time position 230 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: players like Neil Walker and the Cameron Mayben recurrence. Then 231 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: going back to the Loria era Edison Volcz he had 232 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: no hitter, but not much else. Janci Sasawa. Oh my goodness, enough, 233 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: said Brad Ziegler finished off his Marlins tenure really well 234 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: in that second year of his deal. Still an unremarkable 235 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: like lading reliever overall. Considering that, so I don't have that. 236 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: In the same discussion of other role players, you have 237 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: the way in chen eyby million dollars for Way in 238 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: chen to make your pitching staff for fix, some other 239 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: guys that got big deals during the final years of Lauria, 240 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: Michael Morse, Jared Saltla Machia. There were a bunch of 241 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: guys in here who ended up finishing their solid major 242 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: league careers as Marlins. Juan Pierre, I think Carlos Marmol, 243 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: I think that was his final stop. Raphael for Call 244 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: didn't get much out of these guys. Each year was 245 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,119 Speaker 1: fun and he certainly helped the marketability of the franchise 246 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: during what ended up being three years with the organization, 247 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: he just couldn't. Overall, he just wasn't getting on base 248 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: enough at that stage of his career. Even when you 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: include all the intangibles obvious milestone three thousand major league 250 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: hits that he reached, I still don't think it's quite 251 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: on the same level of so Laire. Though it was 252 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: fun and I'm glad they went forward with that. Dating 253 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: back to the very beginning of the Marlins Park era, 254 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: who else do we have Ree Johnson and John Rousch 255 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: and Casey Kachman. So then we have interesting ones from 256 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: that twenty eleven to twenty twelve offseason where they splurged 257 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: on Heath Bell and Mark Burley in Jose Race so 258 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: Reyes that first season and what turned out to be 259 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: his only season with the Marlins that was better than 260 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: so Lair. As an overall player, Rays was still really good. 261 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: I think he just missed being an All Star that 262 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: year and like this few but after that, his few 263 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: years after he got traded to Toronto, he had some 264 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: issues with injuries overall, just not as valuable a player. Yeah, 265 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: then he was off the field for a while, he 266 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: had a domestic violence incident, and if he was actually 267 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: a Marlin for the length of his contractor for even 268 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: half of his contract, then maybe that is the better 269 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: signing than Solair because it was only one year. I mean, 270 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: this is a place where it gets debatable. Maybe you 271 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: say that Rays was a better player than so Lair 272 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: is right now, I couldn't strongly argue with that because 273 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: it was only one year, though, and because in that 274 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: one year the team it was almost around this exact 275 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: time in twenty twelve I think started really going downhill 276 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: for that team, and by the time they reached the 277 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: trade deadline they were out of it. Yeah, I still 278 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: would ride it with so Lair. Here, I wanted to 279 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: point out Hoavier Vasquez. I don't think people remember exactly 280 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: how his season went. There's just one year. It turned 281 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: out to be his final year in the majors. In 282 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, he was, oh my goodness, he was awful 283 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: for almost half of the year, and then during the 284 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: second half of the year dominant, truly dominant in their rotation. 285 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: The problem was those were, as was the case with 286 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these seasons, that second half is a 287 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: lot less important because of the team's position in the standings. 288 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: The consequences aren't as high for that year. Overall, I 289 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: would say he slightly exceeded the money, if only the 290 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: team was still in the race when he actually turned 291 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: it on the second half of twenty eleven. There wasn't 292 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: a whole lot of spending between the previous half decade 293 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: there the late two thousands, because that was the time 294 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: where ownership was in the midst They were obsessed with 295 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: gaining the new ballpark, and they were in as part 296 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: of that whole process. They didn't spend money on the 297 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: major league team to try to pressure the city into 298 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: like giving them ballpark that they wanted. So not much 299 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: activity in these late two thousands going on. Here you 300 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: have to find Carlos Delgado entering the two thousand and 301 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: five season, and there's a few in here that we 302 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: could spotlight entering five. Del Gato another one just like Reyes, 303 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: even more so than Race. He was good after the 304 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Marlins traded him as well, but two thousand and five 305 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: thirty three home runs. It was like a three to 306 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: win player, and that's an including bad defense. So if 307 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: you are a little bit higher on his first base 308 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: skills than Delgado's five drove in one point fifteen that year, 309 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: he hit three hundred with an open of nine to 310 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: eighty one, and he finished sixth in MVP voting in 311 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: five So del Dotto, that's another one where it's really 312 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: strong case to say that that was a better signing. 313 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: You just don't get a great feel of it when 314 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: it's only one year before they traded him to the Mets, 315 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: and so most of that contract was not with the Marlins. 316 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting it. Todd Jones was signed that 317 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: same offseason, and Todd Jones was awesome in two thousand 318 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: and five. This is on the same track where I 319 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: don't weigh relievers too heavily. That thing said, that was 320 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: one of the better closing seasons that the Marlins have 321 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: gotten from anybody ever with Todd Jones in five, even 322 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: pretty late in his career a two to ten era, 323 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: the peripherals back that up only allowed two home runs 324 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: in seventy three endings and he saved forty games. Very impressive. 325 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: But we're almost done here, because if you see the 326 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: title of this episode, you know I'm getting at Armando Benitez. 327 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: I can double check. I think he was also really 328 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: outstanding and still might have the team's all time single 329 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: season saves record in four a one two nine ERA 330 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: that year with forty seven saves. He was an All Star. 331 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: The peropherals don't love him as much as they love 332 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: say Todd Jones. He did get ultimately, he did what's 333 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: most important. He was unhittable back in two thousand and 334 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: four and only one year in that tenure. He'd later 335 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: come back to the Marlins a few years later, but 336 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: just a one year deal, so it's hard to appreciate 337 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: it the same way. But that being said, pud Rodriguez, 338 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: that one year deal was a stroke of brilliance. The 339 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Marlins waited really late into that offseason. The rest of 340 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: the market was not all that bubllish on his future 341 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: as a catcher into his thirties who had a lot 342 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: of mileage on him, and he proved everybody wrong. He 343 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: was the most important India viual player on that Marlins team, 344 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: especially if you include the regular season and the postseason. 345 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: He caught every inning of that postseason and just an 346 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: incredible all around catcher who's somewhere in the neighborhood of 347 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: a five wins above replacements, and that's just the regular season. 348 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: I think that one pretty clearly will top so Lair 349 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: even if Solaiir keeps up his fifty home run pace 350 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: for this year, it's going to be If he keeps 351 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: up his pace and he finishes this season with the Marlins, 352 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: then maybe it's a conversation with Pudge. He goes without 353 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: saying that that was the one of the most important 354 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: signings the team has ever had, so we don't have 355 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: to go back any further than that to find someone 356 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: that panned out a little bit better. A free agent 357 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: move that was a little bit more important than what 358 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: the what they're doing right now with Solair. But that 359 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: being said, as a whole, this history of free agent 360 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: signings is just not good enough for a team that 361 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: only is going to spend on a couple key players 362 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: every single offseason. You need to have a much better 363 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: hit rate than this for so many of players that 364 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: they just were way too late in their careers. I 365 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: did also want to touch on Luis Castillo. Now, Castillo 366 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: had already been a Marlin for a long time, so 367 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of putting this in a different category because 368 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: he was ready on the team and they just signed 369 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: to keep him after the three World Series and what 370 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: he did four and five. You continue to be oh 371 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: big on base percentage in the high three hundreds. He 372 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: won gold gloves each of these first two years of 373 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: this deal, and over as a in terms of war, 374 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: I think three and a half each of those next 375 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: couple seasons. I think you'd have to say that is 376 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more impactful than what so Laer is 377 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: doing right now. I put it in a different category 378 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: because he was ready on the team and he signed 379 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: this deal relatively early in that offseason went to stay around. 380 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: So I put it in a different category for the 381 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: fact that you have to go back to the mid 382 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: two thousands in the early two thousands to find deals 383 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: that are like definitively better than the Solaire one, and 384 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: that there's so few and far between ever since then. 385 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: It just speaks to this organization. And I'm always amazed 386 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: how many people are so loyal and devote and interested 387 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: and hopeful about this organization, just giving the terrible decision 388 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: making that gets made by a variety of people that 389 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: shows all the way on the YouTube version. Could see 390 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: the right column, which of these were Michael Hill, which 391 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: of these were Kim Ang, Which of these were Dan 392 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: Jennings and Larry Beinfest. Yeah, shout out to Larry Beinfest, 393 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: that was the golden era of Marlins free agent dealing, 394 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: so putting himself in the conversation, really one of the 395 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: better free agent signings in recent memory for this team 396 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: absolutely right now. As with the absences simultaneously of Heyesus 397 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: Sanchez and avase El Garcia and Chazz Chism, those were 398 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: three guys entering the year who were three in the 399 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: top four projected to be most used in the outfield, 400 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: like they were depleted at that position. One reason why 401 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: they've been able to stay afloat has been so Lair 402 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: going off and also doing it while playing a lot 403 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: of the outfield. So almost regardless of what happens the 404 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: rest of this year, I think you have to say, 405 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: this signing worked out well. And so we'll give Kim 406 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: ang her flowers for that one. That was the deal 407 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: that was not in love with and certainly the first 408 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: year of it was a bummer and he has made 409 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: up for it. So shout out to so Lair on 410 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: that we're gonna finish off talking about some roster situation 411 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: with the Marlins. As I said, with Sanchez and Avi 412 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: being out, that's not gonna last much longer. By the 413 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: end of this week, you might have both of them back, 414 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: and you'll certainly have one of them back. As first 415 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: reported by Kevin Barrel Barrawl, Sanchez is coming back on Tuesdays. 416 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: Come back maybe right as you're listening to this to 417 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: the Marlins team after a brief rehab assignment. Really in 418 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: nice news, pleasantly surprising how quickly he returned from this 419 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: hamstring injury. It's only going to be two and a 420 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: half weeks in total on the il because of it. Here, 421 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: courtesy of Roster Resource, we have a look at the 422 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: thirteen position players on the team. So who comes off 423 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: first and plays with Sanchez? And then who's going to 424 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: come off in place of Avi, who is just starting 425 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: a rehab assignment of his own, and at the very 426 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: most he'll be back within a week and likely even 427 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: sooner than that. Starting with Sanchez one, it gives them 428 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: a left handed power bat that they have been very 429 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: sorely missing right now. It's lefties on the roster, Arise 430 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: and Wendel and Xavier Edwards, the three who have combined 431 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: combined this season too, had one home run Sanchez sorely needed, 432 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: considering how well he was playing beforehand, and to me, 433 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: I think this one is fairly clear cut. I would 434 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: expect Garrett Hampson to be the one squeezed off initially 435 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: in place of Sanchez. Hampson not necessarily the worst player 436 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: on this roster, and he had playing nice moments in 437 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: April and even early May. Very quietly, he's come back 438 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: down to earth and be relatively close to who they 439 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be, to be the player 440 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: that was signed to a minor league deal. Because his 441 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: offense is limited. He hasn't had an extra base hit 442 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks after having a surprisingly high 443 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: number of them. He has found his water. He's not 444 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: going to hit for power, and he runs still very 445 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: well in the middle of his career. He's still very athletic. 446 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: It's not translating much to defense. He's being really lowly 447 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: rated by most of the metrics that we have out 448 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: there in terms of defensive run saved. I think he's 449 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: a minus four for somebody that's not even playing every 450 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: day and at this point is only starting about every 451 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: other day. That is alarmingly bad. In terms of outs 452 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: above average, he's at minus three. He's a negative two 453 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: in right field, a negative one at second base. The 454 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: versatility is good that he's now played four different positions, 455 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: including a couple premium spots and shorts south and center field. 456 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: He's just not playing them exceptionally well. He's not somebody 457 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: that I don't really see him as a valuable pinch 458 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: hitter really. I know he's had a couple of those moments, 459 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: but I guess in some situations he's somebody that could 460 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: pinch hit for Joey Wendell against a certain left handed pitcher. 461 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: But that's about it, and I don't know how often 462 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: those situations are going to come about. The most important 463 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: factor here is he still has a minor league option, 464 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: so they can send him down and he's still around 465 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: they can bring up later in the year. His stints 466 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: on the roster, it's he's been here from almost the 467 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: entire year, almost two months. It's been fine. He's been 468 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: replacement level overall, but when you adjust for context, I'd 469 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: say he's been significantly better than that. Like he's helped 470 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: them win games and that's great. That's just not predictive 471 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: of what he's going to do moving forward. He doesn't 472 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: hit the ball hard. He's near the very bottom of 473 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: the league in hard hit rate how far down to see, 474 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: even lower than he was in his rocky season. So 475 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: twenty five percent hard hit rate the league averages thirty six, 476 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: he's twenty five thirty six. Too limited offensively, I'd say 477 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: to stick around, especially because the defensive versatility isn't that 478 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: valuable right now, considering who else they have on the roster, 479 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: when you still have Wendell and Birdie and Xavier Edwards. 480 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: I think Xavier Edwards is the better player right now, 481 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: despite his lack of experience. That's pretty clear cuts me. 482 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: I'd expect Sanchez back up in Hampson down. So then 483 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: the question with Avi within the next week is what 484 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: you do with him. I've said this before and I'm 485 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: not going to back down a bit. I think Avi 486 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: should be cut. I don't think I think he's worse 487 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: than any of these other players, especially when you adjust 488 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: for position. For somebody that is only going to be 489 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: in the corner outfield and doesn't really slug, and he 490 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't get on base too many non productive outs, 491 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't think he has a place on the team 492 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: that's actually trying to win. That being said, so I'm 493 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: going to say that we've actually reached the point in 494 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: the year with the team's competitiveness and with his extended 495 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: lack of production as at Marlin that I think you 496 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: could put a percentage, at least that five percent in 497 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: that they dfa him instead of bringing him back. If things, 498 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: unless he looks miraculous on this rehab assignment, and for 499 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: whatever reason, he looks really bad on this rehab assignment, 500 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: healthy but yet not effective. Like I think there's a 501 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: little chance that this is it for Aby and they 502 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: don't even bring him back to disrupt this thing. That means, 503 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, we put a very high percentage on the 504 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: fact that he is healthy. Now they're going to give 505 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: him another shot. I think we've reached a point where 506 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: certainly his playing time and his role is going to 507 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: be a lot different than it was. I think that 508 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: given at this point, they're not going to blindly play 509 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: him every single day until he actually performs in a 510 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: limited sample to merit that. Assuming he's back on this roster, 511 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: it's tricky. There is not a clear cut guy other 512 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: than Hampson that you move off. I mean, the first 513 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: thing you look at is the minor league options Edwards. 514 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: They've sent him down before he's played really well in 515 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: a limited sample. Is he hitting in the mid three 516 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: hundreds and he's running really well, putting the ball in 517 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: play all the time. There's a little good luck there, 518 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: but the fact that you have only four strikeouts in 519 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: twenty two played farancis yeah, three eighty one batting average, 520 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: eight ten ops for Xavier Edwards in his nine games. 521 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: I think the challenge for him is that Jazz is 522 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: not all that far behind from returning himself, and that 523 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: with Jonathan Davis, he doesn't have any minor league options. 524 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: They just made a trade to get him, giving up 525 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Brady Allen a week ago, and Davis said has done 526 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: taking advantage of that opportunity thus far. So even if 527 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: you're really skeptical about that continuing with Davis, I think 528 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: he is safe until Jazz comes back. I think that's 529 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: the one They're going to make an interesting decision on 530 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: what to do right there. In the meantime, I think 531 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: Davis is safe. Most of these other veterans can't be 532 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: sent down anyway. Brian Delacruz, who was a little he's 533 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: been up and down, but mostly up this year. I 534 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: don't think they're thinking sweating about that all that much. 535 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: With Joey Wendall and Jean Sigur, both of them highly disappointing. 536 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we're deep enough into the year that 537 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: they punt on those guys's contracts. Wendell being the more 538 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: realistic one because he's a pending free agent with Julie Guriel. 539 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: He's proved me wrong so far. He has been It 540 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: looked like he was coming. My prediction was that he'd 541 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: be a DFA candidate by his birthday in early June, 542 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: and it looks like he was trending in that direction. 543 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: Then he has this amazing road trip where he helps 544 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: him win games a ton having him in Cooper split time, 545 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm at first base and occasional DH that has been 546 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: that's been really successful. So you just do process of elimination. 547 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: I think Edwards is the one that gets squeezed off 548 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: within the next week. Still a little bit of time 549 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: before the AVI move gets made, so hopefully X takes 550 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: advantage of opportunities that he has between now and then 551 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: for this team. Those are my general predictions about how 552 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: this is going to play out. Eli Susman, the official 553 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: show Fish on First wherever you get your podcasts. Our 554 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: first full week of coverage as this independent outlet. It's 555 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: coming right up. New home stand begins. We're gonna have 556 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: our guys at the ballpark every single day. Say hi 557 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: if you see them over there. It's gonna take time 558 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: to get used to the new name. 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