WEBVTT - Zootopia with Matthew Mixon 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.920 On the Doll Cast. The questions asked if movies have 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.520 women and um are all their discussions just boyfriends and 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.879 husbands or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef in 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:17.440 best start changing it with the bel Cast. Jamie, Hey, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:20.840 I don't have a great intro for this, but I 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.759 was thinking that we should get those little like carrot 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.920 shaped pens. They are also voice recorders that Judy Hopps 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.920 has in the movie, and then use that to record 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.479 the beck Dold Cast on from now on. Just depend 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.000 with how much I had genuine questions about a lot 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.040 of things in this movie. One of the lower stakes 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.360 things was the pen. I was like, how much storage 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.360 is on that thing? Is there an SD card? I 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.839 think it's. I think it's we gotta we gotta go 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.080 to I. I don't want to go to zo Topia. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.160 I really don't. Um, well, I'll still go. I gotta 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.800 be honest, you go, what would you do? Um, we'll 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:05.000 get to that. Welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.119 is Jamie Loftus, my name is Caitlin Darante, and this 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.640 is our show where we examine movies through an intersectional 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.360 feminist lens using the Bechtel test simply as a jumping 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:19.920 off point. But Jamie, I don't remember what that is. Well, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.640 I can tell you what it is if you want, Okay, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.200 I will. The Bechdel Test is a media metric created 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.000 by queer cartoonist Alison Bechdel, sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace Test. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.240 Many per mutations of this test. Here's the one we use. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.080 We require that two characters with names of a marginalized 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.959 gender speak to each other about something other than a 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.760 man for two lines of dialogue minimum, and the it 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.000 has to have some meaning to it. It's got to 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.280 have some heft. I like that. Nothink I've ever said. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.600 I don't find myself saying heffed out loud a lot. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.160 But and for anyone was to the show for the 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.240 first time, being like, is that all you're going to 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.520 talk about on the show? No? And in fact, I'll 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.120 say that this movie does pass um. It's not really 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.880 it's not as maybe not as much as a show, 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.200 but it does. You know, we'll talk about it. Something 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.040 that has been happening to me for the past I 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.200 don't know, one to two years of this podcast is 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:22.760 I forget to pay attention very I mean, it's and 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.720 you're very on top. You're great at your job. Thank you. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.079 But that is the one thing you good is the 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:34.160 name of this show. We've transcended so far beyond the 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.120 very basic low bar that is the Bechdel test. Yeah, 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.320 our our third eyes are open, right, and I just 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:49.920 where is this? Uh? Genuinely I think they're coming up 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:54.320 on three hunt are definitely with our Matreon episodes, we've 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.840 covered around three D and fifty movies. Yeah, let me 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:03.000 consult the Wikipedia. Also shout out to the mysterious benefactor 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.560 who's been taking care of the Wikipedia page for years now. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.960 We don't know who you are, but boy, do you 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:14.160 put me on blast in the footnotes sometimes? Holyishh it 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.160 I never I forget to check. Two hundred seventy seven 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.440 episodes out of today have been released on the maid 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.320 feed on the Mad Yeah, I've been doing this for 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.600 many moons. Oh my goodness. Well let's get our guests 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.640 in the mix, shall we. He's a writer and director 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.400 and that's our friend Matt Mixon. Thanks for having me, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.800 thanks for coming on, thank you for and thank you 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.160 for bringing us a real pickle of a waiting And 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:41.960 why did we do this one? Again? Was this on 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.600 the list on your list, but this but my I 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:49.720 made my list based off of the frequently requested yeah 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.720 backtel cast list right correct. We've gotten a lot of 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:57.880 requests for this movie over the years, and I once again, 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:02.240 as with many of our popular requests, I'm like, really, everyone, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.640 are we okay? Um? But we're We're curious, Matt, what 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.080 is your history? It was, oh yeah, the movies Utopia. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:15.280 He came out in the greatest year of all time? Um, Matt, 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.960 what's your history with this movie? I watched this movie 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.760 on the day of a funeral of like a really 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.720 close loved one past and I was in Wisconsin and 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.080 it was freezing, and I was with my mom and 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.040 my sister and we popped it on and I remember 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:36.760 really enjoying it. It was my number fourteen movie often. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.880 I retroactively popped it on having seen it in January. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.400 Do you do yearly rankings? Yeah? I do him. Um, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.760 I keep it running ranking on letterbox now. But also 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.120 have a movie journal so I can always know the 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.400 day and like, who I saw this? That's so nice. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.000 I should be more diligent about logging my movie activity. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.719 It's just like a it's like a life journal. You 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.000 can just look back and remember. You'll just see a 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.720 weird name, be like who Funks? Did I see that with? 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.160 Like or you know, yeah, it's just really it's a 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.320 nice way to remember. Yeah, I Maggie may Fish shout 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.719 out to someone who's wedding we just attended. UM makes 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.839 movie journals. I think we will drop the link in 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.479 there because I because I got one and I have 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.520 yet to use it because I have a fundamental resistance 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.640 to remember things that happened to me. UM, and that's 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:35.320 a therapy problem. So, um, Jamie, what's your history and 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.480 relationship with Zootopia? Nothing. I had not seen this movie, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.360 and it was what a journey because I feel like 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.760 maybe if I saw this at the beginning of twenty 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.120 sixteen when it came out, I probably would have felt 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.039 different just because but I don't know. I mean, I yeah, 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.760 I hadn't seen it. I didn't really know what it 0:05:55.800 --> 0:06:00.680 was about, and I didn't like it. It's fucking it's 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.640 such a bad movie. Okay, I'm glad that the Tension 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.479 has been released, because I fucking hated every second of 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.720 this movie. It was like kind of vile and it 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.360 was like, I don't think that there were like poor 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.640 intentions behind this movie, but like the just every bad 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.400 choice like it was. I was blown away by how 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.360 much I disliked it. I think people requested this movie 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:29.279 originally because they liked it. Yeah, but it's about girl 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:35.080 boss Cop Solves, who causes racism and then she fixes it, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.200 but also she This movie truly blew my mind for 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:46.760 like how many very at least very obvious, uh flights 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:51.440 of logic that it just barrels through. Um. So yeah, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.800 I'm I came to this movie with fresh eyes, and boy, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.960 oh boy, I hated it. You remember liking it when 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.160 you first saw it as well, which was in theaters, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:07.120 and when did it come out, like March of and 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.440 I remember having a good time, But that was also 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.280 the year that Mo Wanna came out, and I remember 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.680 being furious that this movie, Zutopia won the Academy Award 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.040 for Best Animated Feature the Academy Award over mo Wanna. Yes, 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:26.320 And I was absolutely furious because I was like, yeah, 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:31.080 Zutopia was fun, but Mohanna is a far superior film. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:35.400 And the gap now between the quality of those two movies, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.200 because at the time I was like, oh yeah, Zutopia 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.040 is only slightly not as good, But now I'm like 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:47.120 Zootopia's socks and Mohanna is still perfect, so I think 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.200 it is. Really, I mean, it's an interesting example of 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.119 like how much public thinking has changed in the last 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.200 six years alone. It came out six like less than 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.120 six years ago, and I truly was shocked at how 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.320 poorly it's aged. Like just, yeah, there's there's so much 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.400 to talk about. We're not like coming into I Sometimes 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.760 I feel like we come into a movie like this movie, 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.360 Like if you liked the movie when it came out, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.880 I'm sure I would. Like if I had seen it 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.720 in theaters, I'm sure I would. I would have enjoyed it. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:21.119 And like, if you still like it, that's also fine. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:26.600 But then listen to us during the episode. Yeah, should 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.520 we just get into it? I guess so, yeah, and 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.800 Matt feel free to jump in during the recap, we 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.880 go there's so much there's so many things that I'm 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.280 going to want to be like but wait, if that's true, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.199 how could that be true? Okay? How did she puts 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.040 her phone in a plastic ziploc baggy to like when 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.240 they flushed themselves down the toilet? But why doesn't she 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.880 do that for her little pen. That's the first thing 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.200 you're taking only because we were talking about that's the 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.120 my only gripe with the film end of episode everything else, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.920 the message that positive. I think it made a ton 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.400 of sense. This uh well, kind of say again before 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.400 we start shooting all of this movie. I enjoyed it 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.760 when I saw it. Yeah, a lot has changed in 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.800 four or five years. So whatever, let's have a good 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.640 time here. But you know, just I it was my 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.200 number fourteen of the year. I mean that's crazy, that's wild. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.920 I mean it's like, yeah, so so again it's like 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.120 as always on the back to cast, never feel bad 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.120 for loving him, unless I mean there's a few where 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.719 it's like you should feel bad. This is not one 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.480 of them, right. But also, you know, if we can 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.839 bring maybe a few red flags to your attention, we 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.920 would like to do that. That's our job. Okay. So 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:42.240 Zootopia takes place in an advanced animal society where predator 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:48.120 animals and prey animals coexist in harmony. Big cats can 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:53.400 be accountants, sheep can be astronauts. Anyone can be anything, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.679 though it wasn't always that way in this world, predators 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:01.040 used to eat prey, just like in our world. Uh 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.800 but again, huge problems, enough for fun, but the animals 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:10.040 have evolved beyond that. So we meet Judy Hopps. She's 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.960 a young rabbit who wants to be a police officer 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:19.679 for the city of Zutopia number two, also voiced by 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:24.079 um mrs. He's just not that into you herself A 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.640 good one. I hadn't heard of this person. Oh really 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.840 she's I'm sure she's in other things, and but I 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.600 know her as the person who really was not fun 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.880 to watch in a movie that wasn't fun to watch. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.960 He's just not that into you. Sure, wow, Okay, So 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.920 she wants to be a cop when she grows up, 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:48.440 something that her carrot farmer parents try to discourage her 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.720 from doing, saying that there's never been a bunny cop before. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.240 That's again, it's like it's so at first, then the 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:56.640 parents are like, don't be a cop. I was like, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.560 all right, I'm listening, and they're like, because bunny a cop, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.600 it wouldn't have I was like, oh god, okay, we 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.760 missed it. And then it's like, oh, not wanting a 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:10.560 bunny to be a cop is prejudice and misogyny. It's right. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:15.520 The muddled allegory is really muddled, and the movie is 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.600 confused anyway. Okay, So her parents are like, don't be 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.200 a cop and then also a bully. This fox named 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:28.280 Gideon also tells her that she'll never be anything more 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.360 than a week carrot farming little bunny and then he 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.760 scratches her face. So now she has all this fox 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.160 related trauma. Cut to fifteen years later, Judy is now 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:43.920 attending Zutopia Police Academy. She struggles at first, but learns 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.720 to play to her strengths and she starts to excel 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.480 at the academy. This whole scene was really giving me 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.720 the worst possible version of that sequence from Mulan, Oh, 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:59.160 where Mulan becomes a really amazing soldier, except this is 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:04.240 her book coming a semi competent cop, and it's like 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.600 she keeps hearing the like you'll never be a cop, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.800 and it's like sometimes it's like listen to the voices 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:14.920 in your head. I mean, there's nothing wrong with giving up. Yes, Okay. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.880 So then at her graduation from the academy, the mayor 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:24.559 of Zutopia, a lion named lion Heart, while also created 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:30.839 and his assistant mayor, a sheep named Yes literally Jenny 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:40.360 Yes a k a. Also Bell Weather. They recognize Judy's accomplishments. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.600 She's the valedictorian of her class and she's the first 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:48.800 rabbit to become a police officer in Zootopia. So Jody 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.720 is about to ship off to Utopia. Her parents tell 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.760 her to be careful in the big city, to be 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:58.640 aware of predator animals like bears and wolves and especially foxes. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:04.360 Then they give her some fox repellent spray. Judy then 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.440 gets assigned to Precinct one of Utopia. It's the city center, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.480 though there are like a dozen different ecosystems in a 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:19.840 city like Tundra town Sahara Square, and Rainforest District Wow. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.320 So on her first day on the job, Judy learns 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:27.880 about fourteen different missing animal cases. They are all predators 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.720 who have gone missing um, but she doesn't get assigned 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:35.520 to work on any of those. Chief Bogo, voiced by Idrisalba, 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.679 assigns her parking duty, and while she's doing that, she 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.000 sees a fox who seems to be up to no good, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.240 but then it turns out he's just It's Jason Bateman 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.400 and he's just trying to buy his son a popsicle 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.559 from an elephant who is prejudice against foxes. But then 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.200 it turns out he is up to no good. His 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.400 name is Nick Wild. By the way, this is like 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.800 the first of many examples in this movie where a 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.800 prejudice is referenced, but then canonically in the world, it's like, 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.000 and she was right, Like, you're just like right, what 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.080 is the point? What is the function of that? I 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:18.600 will say that There's all these like little moments towards 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.040 the beginning of the movie when Judy is like, I 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.480 want to be a girl boss cop. But then she's like, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.680 I guess I'll take out all my frustration about not 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.040 being able to be a real cop, which again is 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:33.000 like that's loaded into like issuing petty parking tickets to 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:37.040 the working class and what if I did that? It's okay, right? 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.720 Or are we are we jumping in to talk about it? 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.160 Or do you want to finish your thing because I 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.280 got thoughts. We'll get well, let's let's get through the 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:51.600 recap and then I'm going to keep jumping in. Um okay, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:56.000 So Nick Wild the fox is actually up to no good. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:02.000 He's yeah, not bad. He melts down the popsicle to 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.760 make a bunch of smaller popsicles to sell to lemmings 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:10.480 to make a profit. Fun hilarious, right, So then Judy 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.000 confronts him about it, and he's like, no, I have 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:17.080 all the permits I need. Also, you're a loser and 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.240 you thought that, you know, you would live here and 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:24.040 it would be this equitable utopia, but that's not the reality. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.440 So then she goes home and she feels all dejected. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.160 But then the next day she stops a thief from 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:34.680 stealing a bag of onion like vegetables. Those are important later, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:39.680 I guess um. But even so, Chief Bogo isn't happy 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.920 with her and he's about to fire her, but then 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:47.200 an otter named Mrs Otterton comes in another sorry, another 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:52.680 genius name, perfect no notes, voiced by Octavia Spencer. Is 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.680 that right, Yeah? What a thankless voice role she does. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.320 She has like thirty seconds of screen time. So she 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.480 comes in saying that her husband Emmett Otterton has been 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.120 missing for ten days, and Judy is like, well, I'll 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.680 help find him. So Chief Bogo gives her forty eight 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.320 hours to find the missing otter, but if she can't 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.960 then she's off the force and it seems like there 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:21.000 are no leads for this case. But then Judy notices 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.640 Nick the fox in the photo of Emmett Otterton's last 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:31.080 known sighting. So Judy finds Nick and makes him help 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.400 with her investigation. Emmett Otterton had bought a popsicle from Nick, 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.600 then he went to a spa, where Judy gets a 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.120 lead that Emmett left the spa and got into a 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:44.040 white car. Also, like every time that she's moving the plot, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.560 I mean she's moving the plot forward, but she often 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.200 moves the plot forward by um breaking the rules of 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:56.560 being a cop, where she threatens to put Nick in 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:03.840 jail for tax evasion. Classic cop Like she right, yes, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.920 she's kind of born, born to do it because she 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.920 And then there's that part that we're about to get 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.480 to where she's like, well, there's ways around getting a warrant. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.560 You're like, what the fuck? She sorry, we'll go ahead. 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.960 She fucking tricks Nick into climbing the fence, so she 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.880 has probably cause to bake. Yeah, Like that's like fucking coption, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:31.320 Jennifer Goodwin. So then they go to the d m 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.600 V and run the license plate that the guy at 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.919 the spot just happened to remember. Then there's a scene 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:41.280 with sloths that I find so annoying. Well, it's another 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:46.040 example of like, oh my god, I hated it. They 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.320 used that as promo for the movie for a while, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.000 and I was just like, I don't want to see 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.359 this movie because this scene sucks. I really hated it 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.520 so much that. Yeah, I thought it was a funny idea. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.000 But again it is like another example of like the predge, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.919 this is correct, right, Yeah, we were leaning into the 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.919 stereotypes of sloths. I don't know, but as a but 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.320 as a but as a funny comedy set up where 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.360 he kept changing the words in the sentence. I was last, 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:18.320 maybe the movie's only truly good bit. Uh, yeah, I 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.600 suppose you're right. I just found that the way that 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.159 the line delivery of the sloths, I was like that, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.119 I just didn't like it. The performance is what I 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:32.000 really took issue with. Anyway. So they go to the 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.040 d m V. That leads them to a limousine company 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.320 in Tundratown, where they find the limo and inside his 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.320 Emmett's wallet and a bunch of claw marks. Judy and 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.360 Nick are like, what the fuck. But then they get 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.800 caught by the Limos owner, which is this crime boss Mr. Big. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.600 It's a whole like homage to the Godfather for this. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.520 This reminded me of like there's a few sequences in 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.760 this movie where this movie is like going for this 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.200 is not the first time I've said this. In the show, 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.800 they're going for a shreky in energy, but it's perhaps 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.040 not working, um because they're just like there's this like 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:10.399 long homage to a movie that no child has ever seen, 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.080 and they like, hopefully the parents are going to crack 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:18.760 up at this weird Godfather interlude that will come back. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:24.880 I hated came Also, we should put shreky In on 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:30.080 some new merch. Shreky and something about shreking energy, shreking 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:35.159 vibes something. It rarely works outside of Shrek and this one. 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:36.960 I mean, because there's like multiple points where it's like 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.600 this movie is very like leaning into pop culture. She's like, listen, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.880 anytime there's like a movie where they play all by 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.960 myself when the character's sad, like, okay, shreky In, um, 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.280 but it doesn't work. It wasn't laughing, not in Zootopia, Shrek. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:58.880 What I we need to stop the regarding Shrek Rock 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.080 it's good, I mean, it has its problems, and then 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.080 Shrek Too. You gotta see Shrek to Shrek Too is 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:12.080 has suffers from many of the same problems. Also going 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.119 to say this this seek this part rips off training day, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.760 yeah day where they're like having in the bathtub and 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.640 they're both to kill Ethan Hawk and then they find 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.800 out that he saved the dude's daughter. It's like the 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.680 exact same thing that happens there, Okay, And again it's 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.920 like that reference is for who. I don't think it's 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:35.040 a reference that was just straight. That was this plagiarism 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.639 that was and that was like another bizarro girl boss 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.320 cop moment where if you like, I mean, it's like, 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.160 if you apply a second of thought to a lot 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.639 of the things that happened in this movie, it just 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.960 completely falls apart or becomes deeply unethical. Um where it's 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:55.200 like she saves that what animal is the Godfather is 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.880 like like a little mole. I think, awesome, No, that's 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.879 not powesome. I'm from the woods, so I know about 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.359 woodland critters. Possums are huge and they're fucking on my 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.439 neighbor's roof every single night. I think it's like a 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:13.359 little mole maybe, but like she saves the Godfather's daughter 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.400 from and I haven't seen the Grandfather, so I'm just assume, 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.560 but I know what happens in the movie. Basically, it's 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.920 pretty good. It's wait, that's a hot take. I've never 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:29.080 heard that. You check it out. But Godfather too, Godfather 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.240 to suffers from many of this. This person just told 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.080 me they saw a house of Gucci twice in two days, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:40.159 like fifteen minutes ago. Look, I see, I see it. 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.800 I haven't seen you know that's true. I mean, we 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.879 all have our areas we do need to, you know, 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:52.080 improve upon. My Godfather spot is not good. But well, 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.680 we've been talking about for years maybe doing Godfather Month 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.639 on the Matreon because we covered a frances for Cobla 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:04.080 movie recently. But it was Peggy's who got married Francis Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.360 yeah I did. It's a weird one, but oh so 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:12.520 the logic is that Judy saved the daughter from a 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:17.359 large doughnut whatever, and then Judy compliments her wedding dress, 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.560 and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, okay, 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.640 now the cops can collude with the mob, and then 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.359 that's just cannon. For the rest of the movie, the 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.880 cops are colluding with the mob, which happens in real life. 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:31.880 But I don't think that that's any Like the movie 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:33.919 is not commenting on anything there, Like the mob is 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:39.359 funny r so, and we love cops that here in Zootopia, 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.720 Oh my god, they love cops. So the crime boss 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.720 is like, all right, you can get some more information 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:50.000 from the driver of the limo. So Judy and Nick 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:53.000 go to the rainforest district to talk to the limo driver, 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:57.800 a jaguar named Mr Manches, who says that all of 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:01.919 a sudden, emmet the otter went wild in the limo. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:06.159 He became violent and attacked him, all while yelling about 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:11.520 night howlers. And then right then Mr Manches also turns 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:16.120 into a wild animal and attacks them. Judy and Nick 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.600 narrowly escape, but when Chief Bogo shows up to the scene, 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.720 Mr Manches is gone, so Judy has no evidence to 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.640 support her theory that for some reason, these animals are 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.520 going wild. But Judy still has a few hours to 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:33.639 crack the case. So she and Nick, who are getting 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:39.960 along better, maybe they're even becoming friends. What they set 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:44.960 off to city Hall to get help from Assistant Mayor Bellweather, 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:50.879 who Assistant Mayor Jenny Slade missing a major piece which 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:55.200 thing trauma. Oh, yes, okay, so there's a flashback. Yeah, 0:23:55.240 --> 0:24:00.199 I figured we'd we'd get sometimes I gloss over. Let 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:05.560 me do my job, Matt. So they go to bell Weather, 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:09.400 who can get them access to traffic cams to see 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.560 where Mr Manches went. They discover that a couple of 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.640 wolves grabbed Mr Manches and put him in the back 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.439 of a van. Judy's like, oh, those must be the 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:23.080 night howlers, because wolves howl. So they track where the 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.280 wolves went, which leads Judy and Nick to this facility 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.200 where they find a number of predator animals basically all 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.760 the mammals who have recently gone missing, including Emmett Otterton, 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:38.000 but they're all like feral and wild. Then Mayor lion 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.200 Heart comes in. He seems to be the bad guy 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:44.120 behind this whole operation. So, like Judy calls it in, 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.720 the mayor is arrested and it seems like the case 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.800 is solved. And this is one of the points in 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.560 the movie that I got so frustrated because it's like, Okay, 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:57.439