1 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, Doctor Joy Harden Bradford, a 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or to 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: find a therapist in your area, visit our website at 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. While I hope you love 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: listening to and learning from the podcast, it is not 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: meant to be a substitute for a relationship with a 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much for 11 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: joining me for session two ninety seven of the Therapy 12 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: for Black Girls Podcast. We'll get right into our conversation 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: after a word from our sponsors. This week, we're circling 14 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: back on an episode from our archive that will give 15 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: us a much needed reminder that healing looks different for 16 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: all of us, and that each of us might find 17 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: different practices helpful. In this episode, I'm joined by Linnia 18 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Smith Crawford, licensed marriage and family therapist, whose voice you 19 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: might be familiar with from session two ninety three, a 20 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks back. In our conversation, Linia and I 21 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: chatted about how healing can happen through sound meditation and breathwork, 22 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the definition of holistic healing, and how to find someone 23 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: appropriately trained to offer these services. It's an incredible episode, 24 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: so make sure you stay until the very end, as 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Linia shares a special sound bath meditation just for our community. 26 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: If something resonates with you while enjoying our conversation, please 27 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: share with us on social media using the hashtag TVG 28 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: in Session, or come on over and join us and 29 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: the Sisters Circles to talk more about the episode. You 30 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: can join us at community that Therapy for Blackgirls dot com. 31 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: Here's our conversation. What are we talking about when we 32 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: talk about holistic healing, especially when it comes to mental health. Yes, 33 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: so I have started to use holistic healing and holistic 34 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: mental health interchangeably. But essentially, what it means is that 35 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: we are tuning into all aspects of ourselves. We are 36 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: honoring that we are multifaceted and that in order for 37 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: us to truly heal, we have to be able to 38 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: integrate all layers of selves. So our physical, are emotional, 39 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: are energetic, our thoughts and our spiritual aspects to create 40 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: the safe container. For healing. Got it. And so some 41 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: of the things that you use as a part of 42 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: your practice are both breathwork and sound healing. Can you 43 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about how you have developed 44 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: these wellness practices as a part of your life and 45 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: like how they've been beneficial to you. Yeah. Absolutely, So. 46 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: I have always loved things like meditation and yoga and breathwork, 47 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: and I've always understood like how necessary they were for 48 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: healing and for our mental health, so much so that 49 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: I completed my yoga and meditation teacher certification while I 50 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: was finishing up my masters while I was in grad school. 51 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you can also maybe relate to this. 52 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Graduate school is probably one of the most stressful times 53 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: in a professional's life, and so I really was able 54 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: to lean into the power of breathwork and yoga and 55 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: meditation and ultimately sound healing while I was going through 56 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: that really stressful period, and I started to notice my 57 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: colleagues and my peers were on the verge of straight 58 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: burnout right, and I had a sense of calmness about me. 59 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: And it was at that point I really realize that 60 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: things like brack work and yoga and sound healing are 61 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: really necessary for us, particularly in the most stressful times. 62 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: And so with that realization from my personal practice, I 63 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: wanted to integrate it with my work as a therapist, 64 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: and so I definitely tried to do it on my own, 65 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: or I tried to ask my supervisors for guidance as 66 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: far as integration goes, and back then it really wasn't 67 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: I say back then like it was forever go, it's 68 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: almost five years ago, right, but we've seen how much 69 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: this whole concept of holistic mental health and holistic healing 70 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: has really taken off in the last I would say 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: five years. My supervisors looked at me like, huh, Like, girl, 72 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: just refer them out to a meditation teacher. Just refer 73 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: them out. We don't do that as therapist. And so 74 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: that was ultimately the beginning of my journey of integrating 75 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: these practices into the therapy room and in the mental 76 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: health space. You know, I really appreciate you sharing it 77 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: because I do feel like the people who are training 78 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: now and like in the FO you will have a 79 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: very different experience of grad school than it sounds like 80 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: we both had, because it feels like we have learned 81 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: so much more about how all of these things are integrated, 82 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: but our training isn't typically integrated in that way, right, 83 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: And so a lot of people have the same kind 84 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: of story like you around like going back to get 85 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: certified in yoga and meditation to supplement or compliment what 86 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: they do in the therapy room. And so can you 87 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: talk about how you have brought both of those things 88 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: together and how things like breathwork and sound healing can 89 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: actually compliment traditional therapy. Yes, this is one of my 90 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: favorite things to talk about. And to your point, we 91 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: don't get this training in our master's program and still 92 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: now it's not really a part of the curriculum. And 93 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: so that's one of the reasons I created the Holistic 94 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Therapist Academy, which is essentially to teach therapists and mental 95 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: health professionals how to ethically integrate and confidently facilitate trauma 96 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: and from yoga, breathwork and sound healing to help clients 97 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: heal from anxiety, depression, and trauma. And so, when you 98 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: think about the major diagnoses, anxiety, depression and trauma are 99 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: really the top three that many of our clients face 100 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of society goes through and so breathwork 101 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: and sound healing is so beneficial for those diagnoses, and 102 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: just like stress overall. And so when we talk about 103 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: this feeling of stress, right, when we talk about being 104 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: in our fight flight or freeze, right, breathwork and sound 105 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: meditation and sound healing ultimately help us to calm our 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: nervous system. Right. So in our nervous system, we have 107 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: our parasympathetic and are sympathetic, are sympathetic, and I know 108 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: you know this, but for the audience, the sympathetic nervous 109 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: system is our seat of fight flight, freeze, and there's 110 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: many other responses, but that's essentially our bodies knowing that 111 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: we're in danger. That is, when the bear comes out 112 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: in the forest and we have to freeze or you 113 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: know we're in danger. We're experiencing anxiety, depression or trauma triggers. 114 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: And so what breathwork and sound healing does It allows 115 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: us to move from the sympathetic, this feeling of frights 116 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: or this feeling of anxiousness, to our parasympathetic, our seat 117 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: of rest, digest, our seat of safety ultimately right, and 118 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: so these practices help us be able to manually get 119 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: there right without necessarily having to go to a class 120 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: or having to engage in conversation. These are tangible tools 121 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: that our clients and ourselves we can use to get 122 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: out of the stress and the anxiousness of life and 123 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: into that calm zone of rest, digest and safety. So 124 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: that's essentially why, like you know, practices like breathwork and 125 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: sound dealing are super compliments, like they're necessary compliments to 126 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: therapy because it gives our clients another tangible way to 127 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: get into that seat of safety and prime condition for healing. 128 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: M I think also, you know, in some ways, it 129 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: feels like this might work a little quicker than some 130 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: of the ways that traditional talk therapy works, right, Like 131 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: some of them processing in like you know, talking through 132 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: this stuff like that is still really important, but the 133 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: breathwork and stuff like that feels like something somebody could 134 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: practice almost immediately and see pretty good results sooner than 135 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: like would you talk therapy. Absolutely, and so I think 136 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: that's like a major point, right. So we always talk 137 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: about you know, you meet with your therapists once a week, right, 138 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: but even that once a week is not enough to 139 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: combat everything that happens outside of the therapy room. So 140 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: as therapists and psychologists, you know, we're always trying to 141 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: give our clients coping skills, but these holistic coping skills, 142 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: like you said, work much quicker. Right, If our client 143 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: is starting to feel their anxiety increase or a trauma 144 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: trigger is starting to come up for them, they are 145 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: specific breathing techniques that they can do to calm themselves 146 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: down quicker. There's you know, specific sound healing techniques that 147 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: they can do to reach that level of safety. And 148 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: so to your point, these are quick and tangible ways 149 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: to ultimately help not just our clients, right ourselves because 150 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: I engage in breathwork every day to keep this stress 151 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: and anxiety down on a personal level as well. Yeah, 152 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and who couldn't have used some of this 153 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: in the past, like eighteen months, right, Like when you 154 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: talk about the chronic stress, like some of this I 155 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: think could be really helpful for people to just continue 156 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: to soothe and take care of themselves. Absolutely, because that's 157 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: the name of the game, right. We want to create 158 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: a healthier and happier society, and the more that we 159 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: can tap into these holistic practices, I think the easier 160 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: it'll be for us to get there. M So, we 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: have had the pleasure of having you join us over 162 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: in the sister circle for a sound bath healing, Yes, 163 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I would love for you to just talk a little 164 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: bit more about what a sound bath is and where 165 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: this practice comes from. Yes, absolutely so, sound healing, sound meditation, 166 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: sound baths all essentially the same thing, using the power 167 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: of sound to help people relax and heal. And so 168 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: sound healing is based on the presidence of residence, and 169 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: so residence essentially says that when some thing is vibrating 170 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: at a certain frequency, when something gets near it, they 171 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: start to vibrate at the same frequency. They start to 172 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: get in tune with one another. So I like to 173 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: use the example of a guitar. When you strum the 174 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: string of a guitar, the string starts to vibrate, and 175 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the wooden piece of the 176 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: guitar starts to vibrate as well. Right, So that's an 177 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: example of resonance, or to resonate. Right. When you're resonating 178 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: with someone, it means that you all are in tune 179 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: with one another, you're on the same page, you're on 180 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: the same wavelength. So that's the same concept in sound 181 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: healing and sound meditation, and so typically in sound bath, 182 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: sound meditation, you are using quartz crystal sound bowls, and 183 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: these bowls are tied and tuned to specific chakras in 184 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: the body. So chakras are different energy points that we 185 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: have in our bodies. We have seven foundational chakras that 186 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: range from the base of our spine to the crown 187 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: of our head. And so these foundational chakras are also 188 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: actually to actual systems in the body. So think of 189 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: your reproductive system and other systems in the body. And 190 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: so when you engage in a sound healing session or 191 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: a sound bath, the facilitator is using different bowls tuned 192 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: to different chakras. And so depending on what you're working 193 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: on or what the goal is of the sound meditation 194 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: or sound bath session, they'll make sure that they play 195 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: specific instruments and bowls that are tied to the chakras 196 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and ultimately help to clear out any blockages or clear 197 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: out anything that may be coming up for you. So 198 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: that's essentially sound healing, right. So it is instruments and 199 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: bowls that are tied directly to chakras in the body 200 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: that ultimately help us do certain things. So I'll give 201 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: an example of a chakra, the root chakra, which is 202 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: also our first chakra to develop. That is our seat 203 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: of safety, that is our seat of trusting and knowing. 204 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: So that's usually the chakra that many of our clients 205 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: have issue with because when you think about someone that's 206 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: coming into theory, you're coming in to any type of 207 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: healing practice, they're ultimately coming in the place of feeling unsafe. Right. 208 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: That's a hallmark of trauma and trauma responses is not 209 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: feeling safe, not feeling grounded. Right, So use that term 210 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: a lot when we talk about anxiety. Feeling grounded. So 211 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: your root chakra would be something you would work with 212 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: for those types of concerns, right, So you might utilize 213 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: your bowl, your root chakra bowl even more in that 214 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: particular sound healing session. That's really really cool stuff. And 215 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: so another cool thing about sound healing and sound baths 216 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: are they help our brain waves to slow down, so 217 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: they get us into a certain wavelength that allows us 218 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: to get into this deep sense of relaxation that allows 219 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: the vibrations to do their thing. Right. So, if you're 220 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: a meditator, you understand what we're talking about. It's like 221 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: that slowness that comes where you really have space between 222 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: your thoughts so typically where our brain waves are active 223 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: and they're moving really fast, and so we're moving from 224 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: one thought to the next. When you engage in sound baths, 225 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: you're slowing those brain waves down, creating more space and 226 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: time between the thoughts, and then ultimately allowing yourself to 227 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: relax and really feel into the moment. So that's a 228 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: little bit about sound baths and how they work. And 229 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: I'll also address this too, because I get this question 230 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: all the time. What is the difference between sound healing, 231 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: sound bath, and sound meditation. So a sound bath is 232 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: essentially a group offering, So we're engaging in a sound 233 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: healing or a sound meditation session in a group that 234 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: is a sound bath. And sound healing is essentially where 235 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: you're using the sound to heal the body. So someone's 236 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: coming to you with different symptoms or concerns and so 237 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: they're specifically coming to clear out blockages to help them heal. 238 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: And then sound meditation is using the power of sound 239 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: to meditate and to get into that deep relaxive state. 240 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: So those are the differences between the three. Got it, 241 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: Thank you for that distinction. And are there specific kinds 242 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: of stressors or experiences that sound bans or sound meditations 243 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: help to alleviate or can't you just be for anything? Basically, 244 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned that some of the wavelengths help you 245 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: to slow down, But I'm wondering, like for somebody who's 246 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: in a more depressive state, you wouldn't necessarily want them 247 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: to slow down, they maybe want to be more energized 248 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. Are there wavelengths or the sounds that would 249 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: help to do that as well? Absolutely, really really great questions. 250 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: So sound baths are really helpful for anxiety and trauma responses, 251 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: so I ultimately recommend them for those, So anxiety trauma 252 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: responses and also communication concerns and relationships, so your connection. 253 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: So those are the things that sound bass are really 254 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: helpful for. And to your point, right, if someone wasn't 255 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: a depressed state, you wouldn't want their thoughts to slow down, 256 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: You wouldn't want them to be even more in a 257 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: relaxed state. Right, So when we talk about depression, we're 258 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: thinking about lack of energy, losing interests, so on and 259 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: so forth. And so with that point, right, that's also 260 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: why it's important for us as therapist who want to 261 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: engage in this holistic therapy realm to know and be 262 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: trained in the differences, right, because I could be thinking 263 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: sound healing is good for anything, right, space between the thought, amen, like, 264 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: let me do that. But when you have the understanding that, Okay, 265 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: someone who's depressed may not want to engage in a 266 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: sound bath, they might need to do more of an 267 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: energizing breathwork practice. And someone who is really anxious right there, 268 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: in the height and anxious state, they would benefit more 269 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: from a sound bath than as opposed to a couple 270 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: of yoga poses or some breathing exercises. So yes, you 271 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: definitely want to know what diagnoses you're working with when 272 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: you are engaged in sound healing practices. So yeah, so 273 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: hopefully that answers your question. Yeah, that is super helpful. 274 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean, see, this is because I don't have training 275 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: in this area. So I'm glad I just stumbled upon 276 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: that question. But you know, that reminds me of something 277 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: you said earlier around like the ethics of this, right, 278 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: And so I think sometimes people see stuff like this, 279 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't know what you don't know, and 280 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily know how you could end up harming 281 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: people with the knowledge that you don't have, right, And 282 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: so I think sometimes people think, oh, I can just 283 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: put on this sound meditation track and you know, have 284 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: people do this stuff. But there is all the science 285 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: and like knowing differentials and like how to match whatever 286 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: holistic modality you're offering to whatever the client is coming 287 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: in with. Yes, exactly, And so that's a huge part 288 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: in this particular field. Right. You have folks that say, well, 289 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: it's unethical or yeah, I tell my clients to breathe 290 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: all the time. So I'm a holistic therapist. And while 291 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: that's great that you offer those things to your clients, 292 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: you definitely need training. And so that's again why I 293 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: created the Holistic Therapist Academy because I see it all 294 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: the time. Oh yeah, as long as you tell your 295 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: client to take a deep breath and a deep breath out, 296 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: that's going to help them with their anxiety, depression and trauma. 297 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: And that's usually where you know, if I see that, 298 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: you know, I step in and say, well, actually, there 299 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: are certain breathing exercises that we're better for anxiety versus depression. 300 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: And there's certain poses that you never put a person 301 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: that was coming to for trauma in that you would 302 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: put someone that's coming to for depression in so I 303 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: echo those sentiments. Training, training, training is essential, even if 304 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: you have your two hundred hour yoga teacher training as 305 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: a therapist, you have to understand how to ethically integrate 306 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: this work and know what poses, what breathing exercises, what 307 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: sound healing techniques go specifically to the different diagnosis you 308 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: might see in your therapy room. Got it more from 309 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: my conversation with Linnea after the break. Just in case 310 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: you hadn't heard, my debut book, Sisterhood Heels is now 311 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: available for pre order and will be available everywhere on 312 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: June twenty seven. 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Or would you only want to do 323 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: this like with a trained professional. So I believe that 324 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: these practices can be interchangeable. I definitely think that as 325 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: you want to use these practices, particularly sound healing, for 326 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: your personal healing and growth, I do recommend that you 327 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: go to someone that can at least tell you, Okay, well, 328 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: these are the shockers. Maybe you should focus in on 329 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: or at least get the experience of being lad in 330 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: the sound bath before trying to do it on your own. 331 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: But I do think that it's something that you can 332 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: definitely do on your own. And the more that we 333 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: can educate our clients and just people in general about 334 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: the power of the chakras and the power of vibrational healing, 335 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: the easier it'll be for them to use these practices 336 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: at home. Got it. So I wonder if you can 337 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: give us a little example of like an intake session 338 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: for a sound healing looks like like, let's say I 339 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: came to you and said, I'm struggling with some assertiveness 340 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: issues or communication like you mentioned, what kinds of questions 341 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: would you ask me in that initial session? And like 342 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: how would you decide what kinds of like sounds or 343 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: bulls to play? Yeah? Great, questions. So, because I do 344 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: this as an integrative work, the intake looks pretty similar 345 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: to traditional therapy intake. We want to know your goals, 346 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: want to know what's happening. We want to know why 347 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: you're here for therapy and what your prognosis looks like. 348 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: And so then it's about which techniques to use depending 349 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: on what's coming up for you. Right, So let's say 350 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: you're coming to see me for communication issues. You notice 351 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: that on the job or in relationships, it's hard for 352 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: you to speak up. So of course you know, we'll 353 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: build rapport, we'll do more emotional and thought body processing. 354 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: But then when it comes to the sound healing part 355 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: of our work together, we'll really focus in on your 356 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: throat chakra so you feel safe, and then we'll also 357 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: tap into the throat chakra. So your throat chakra is 358 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: your seat of communication and it's also your seat of understanding. 359 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: So when folks are finding it hard to speak up 360 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: in relationships at work, they're noticing that they're dimming their light, right, 361 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: they're not taking up as much space as they could. 362 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: Then that's a clear indication that there's probably some blockage 363 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: in the throat chakra area and so the sound session 364 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: or the sound healing part of our therapy session, we 365 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: would primarily focus on the throat chakra. So that's kind 366 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: of an example of how you would do that. Does 367 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: I answer your question? Yeah, it does. And you know, 368 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: I'm just really curious. So do people typically come to 369 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: you because they find your website they think like, oh, 370 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: I want to try this, or do people come to 371 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: you for your more traditional talk therapy and then you 372 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: maybe ask or like talk to them about introducing some 373 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: of the sound healing or maybe breathwork into the practice. Yeah, 374 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: so people come to me wanting that integrative approach. They want, 375 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to process their thoughts, but 376 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: they also want to be able to engage in different 377 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: practices like the sound of mass, the breathwork, and the yoga. 378 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: So they kind of know that off bat it's like 379 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: pretty clear on my website that this is what I do. 380 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: It's in the informed concept, it's into all of that, 381 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: and then depending on where they are in their journey. 382 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: And that's something that I think is really important for 383 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: anyone who is wanting to engage in this holistic realm 384 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: is to know that it's always about meeting your client 385 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: where they are, and sometimes you may never pull out 386 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: one of these techniques right, or sometimes it's just welcoming 387 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: them into the room with a meditation or a breathwork practice. 388 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: So it's really also about tuning it your sessions to 389 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: your clients. So it's all about making sure it works 390 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: with whatever your client is bringing to you. Got it. 391 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: So let's dive more into the breathwork. So what is breathwork? 392 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: I think you hear it and you're like, Okay, it 393 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: must be something involving breathing, but what does actual breathwork 394 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: look like? Yeah, so breathwork is the intentional use and 395 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: constriction of the breath. So breathing is one of the 396 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: things that we do naturally, right, It's one of the 397 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: things that we pretty much don't have to think about. 398 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: We're grateful for that. But breath work is being intentional 399 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: about your breathing and the constriction of the breath. So 400 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: it's more than just Okay, I'm inhaling, I'm exhaling. It's 401 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: about certain patterns or certain constrictions that you do to 402 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: ultimately help with you know, symptoms like anxiety, depressive symptoms, 403 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: trauma responses, burnout, you know, things like that got it. 404 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: You've already kind of woven in some of these examples 405 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: which you talked about. There may be different kinds of 406 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: breathwork use for something like anxiety versus depression. Can you 407 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: talk about like some of the differences. Yes, absolutely so. 408 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: In breathwork mama responses and anxious symptoms, they're pretty much 409 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: not looked at the same, but they're looked at similarly 410 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: because we know anxiety it can be a symptom of 411 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: trauma or trauma triggers. So when you think about someone 412 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: who is going through an anxious moment or who maybe 413 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: having a trauma response, the biggest hallmark is grounding in safety. Right. 414 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: We always talk about when your clients are experiencing these 415 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: heightened levels of emotions, let's ground them down, Let's get 416 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: them into the present moment, Let's get them into their bodies. 417 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: So if we're dealing with symptoms like that, our breath 418 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: work is going to be longer, it's going to be slower, 419 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: and we're really going to focus primarily on the exhales, right, 420 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: Because one of the things that's important for us to 421 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: note is that when we're breathing or engaging in breathwork practices, 422 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: when our exhale is longer than our inhale, it allows 423 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: our nervous system to come back to center a lot quicker. 424 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: So we talked about the power that these practices have 425 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: on our nervous system earlier in our talk today. But 426 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: that's like a quick rule of thup right, So if 427 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: your exhale is longer than your inhale, it gets your 428 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: nervous system balanced quicker. So that's like a quick tidbit 429 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: that you would use with someone who's experiencing anxiety or 430 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: a trauma response. Now, someone who is experiencing depression, right, 431 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: the symptoms look way different than they do when a 432 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: client is anxious, So we're thinking about little energy, right, 433 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: lack of interest, isolation and things like that. And so 434 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: your breath work practice for someone with depressive symptoms, it's 435 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: going to look quicker, right, it's going to be energy provoking. 436 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: It's going to look a lot different than it looks 437 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: when you're working with a client who's experienced anxiety and trauma. 438 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: So that's kind of the difference in the breathwork for 439 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: those diagnoses. Got it during the pandemic, and you know, 440 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: after George Floyd was killed and Brianna Taylor was murdered. 441 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: We saw a lot of digital spaces for and buy 442 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: black women that use a lot of breathwork, Like you 443 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: saw a lot of like groups that popped up around this. 444 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Can you talk about why something like breathwork is particularly 445 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: suited to help to manage some of these concerns. Yes, 446 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: absolutely so. When we think about you know, racial trauma, right, 447 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: So we think about witnessing these murders and knowing the 448 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: historical context of what's happening when we go through these 449 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: unfortunate events and these times together, we think about being 450 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: in that flight or freeze mode. We think about being 451 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: in this state of unsafety, of being on high alert, right, 452 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: being in this state of anxious thoughts, right. And so breathwork, 453 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: like we said before, it helps us be able to 454 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: move out of that sympathetic move out of that fight 455 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: fight or freeze, move out of this feeling of like 456 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: unsafety into feeling safe in our bodies. And so I 457 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: think the greatest gift that any of us can give 458 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: ourselves is to feel safe in our body is safe, 459 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: being ourselves, safe, being who God created us to be. 460 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: And breath work is a really tangible tool to help 461 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: us do that. So I think that's one of the 462 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: reasons why so many breathwork circles came up around that time. 463 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to see that more breath work 464 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: practices and more sound healing practices are coming up because ultimately, 465 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: these are our natural ways for us to feel safe 466 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: in our bodies and to essentially come back home to ourselves. 467 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned that only within the last five 468 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: years have we seen more interest in this space and 469 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: some of these practices, and I would say that even 470 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: shorter than that, have we seen more Black women kind 471 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: of claiming space with some of these practices. Can you 472 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: talk about some of the barriers that exist for Black 473 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: women coming into some of these spaces. Yes, And that 474 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: is the truth of being honest and transparent. The wellness 475 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: industry has really been monopolized by white women. And now 476 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: that more Black women are understanding that, oh my gosh, yes, 477 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm worthy of rest, I'm worthy of self care, I'm 478 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: worthy at the time it takes to nourish my soul, 479 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: that we're starting to see more of us engage in 480 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: these practices and then start to be a leaders in 481 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: this movement. And so it's really interesting because for someone 482 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: like me, I kind of look around and I'm like, Wow, 483 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: there really aren't that many black women who do these 484 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: integrative practices and that lead these things and train people 485 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: on this work. So that means that most of my 486 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: teachers were white women. And so I think that one 487 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: of the barriers is there's not a whole lot of 488 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: teachers at least in this space and that look like us. 489 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: And so that's a barrier, right when we're less motivated, 490 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: I think, or less likely to see ourselves in a 491 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: space if we've never seen someone that looks like us 492 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: in that space, right, And that's true for most professions. 493 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: So I think that's a barrier. And then too, I 494 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: think ultimately us understanding that we're worthy of rest and 495 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: worthy of these practices. I'm sure you've heard this plenty 496 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: of times. Us as black women, we are like designed 497 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: to be overachievers, were designed to be superwomen, were designed 498 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: to have it all together. And by the end of 499 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: the day, once we've checked everything off the to do 500 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: list and made sure everyone's needs are met, then there's 501 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: really not that much time for ourselves to engage in 502 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: these practices. So I think that the more that paradigm 503 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: shifts that we are worthy of these practices, were worthy 504 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: of the rest that we'll start to see more of 505 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: a change in this field. And if I'm honest, I'm 506 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: hoping to train more therapists so that there are more 507 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: of us in this field. And I'm excited about the 508 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: Holistic Therapist Academy because we've already started Cohort one and 509 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: we have several therapists, most of them are black women 510 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: and women of color, who are then going to be 511 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: able to bring this integrative practices to their communities and 512 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: will be able to see more of us in this 513 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: integrative space. MM so, what information or advice do you 514 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: have for anyone listening or tuning into our conversation who's 515 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: wanting to get started with more holistic practices, Like where 516 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: is a good holistic healing one oh one where my 517 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: day gets started? Not a therapist, but just general people listening. Yeah, so, 518 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: I think it's about finding the practices that work for you, 519 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: and I would say, don't be scared of it. I 520 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: think that we still have a lot of misconception about 521 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: things like breathwork, meditation and sound dealing or even yoga, 522 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: and I would say, don't be scared of it. Know 523 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: that these practices were designed to help you live your 524 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: best life. They were designed to help you find a 525 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: deep sense of relaxation and to give you the space 526 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: and time to come back home to yourselves. So that 527 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: would be my first thing, and then give it a try. 528 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Be open. Now, the first time you engage in breath 529 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: work or go to a yoga class or go to 530 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: a sound meditation, you may not be like, Okay, this 531 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: is going to be life changing. Nine times at attend 532 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: know if you're consistent with the practice, you'll start to 533 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: see the shift. So consistency would be my next thing. 534 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: And so yeah, those are my top two things. Don't 535 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: be scared of it. These practices were designed to help 536 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: you and to give it a try. Go on YouTube, 537 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: type in you know breathwork practices, Follow folks on Instagram 538 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: who or a phrasebook or whatever social media platform that 539 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: you're engaged in that engage in these practices, and go 540 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: for it. Get consistent. Go find your local studio. There 541 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: are local yoga studio meditation studios and see what events 542 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: they have. So just be open and give it a try. 543 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: M And for people who are maybe looking for like 544 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: practitioners to work with in breathwork or maybe sound healing. 545 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: What kinds of questions should they be asking? What kinds 546 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: of like credentials should they be looking for to make 547 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: sure that they are working with someone who has been 548 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: properly trained. Yes, so definitely ask where did you have 549 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: formal training? Someone could essentially start playing sound bows and 550 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: call themselves as sound dealer. There's no regulation, right, there's 551 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: regulation for therapists and counselors, but there's not regulation for 552 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: the term healer. So definitely asking about their training, their experience, 553 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: what other types of clients have they worked with, what 554 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: symptoms have they worked with? What are their success rates? 555 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: I think those are important questions to ask. And also too, 556 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: maybe you go to one of their group offerings. So 557 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: many breath work facilitators and sound healers and therapists that 558 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: do this integrative work, they usually offer something in the public, right, 559 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: a public sound bath, a public breath work class. So 560 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's ten one of their group settings to get 561 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: a sense of how they do the work, see if 562 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: they resonate with you. So that's something that I would 563 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: suggest as well. Honestly, I'm going to say this transparently. 564 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: I think that having someone like a therapist, a therapist 565 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: who also is trained in this work, to me, is 566 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: invaluable because you have a person that understands how to 567 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: safely hold you in a space when things come up. 568 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: So with any trauma triggers, anxiety triggers, or anything triggers 569 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: you overall, you have someone that knows how to guide 570 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: you in that process if that comes up for you 571 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: within the sound meditation and the breathwork practices. So that's 572 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: another reason, doctor Joy, why I'm so passionate about having 573 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: more therapists have these tools because we've spent years, right 574 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: years of our lives learning how to hold and create 575 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: safe spaces for people, So it feels easier for us 576 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: to integrate these practices. Got it more from my conversation 577 00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: with Lynea after the break. You know, I'm wondering if 578 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: you can just talk a little bit about sometimes like 579 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: what kinds of triggers will come up for people and 580 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: what could happen if you're not tended to carefully, because 581 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we always know like what happens, Like 582 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that people always know when they have 583 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: been triggered. Yes, yes, yes, yes, And that's and that's 584 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: the thing, right knowing when they're triggered and what to 585 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: say and how to help them. Whoever you're going to see, 586 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, yoga, meditation, breathwork, make sure that they have 587 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: training and trauma. Make sure that they have trauma informed 588 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: training because this will ultimately help them when people start 589 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: to get triggered and to not trigger the people in 590 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: the room. So that's another thing to look for. I'll 591 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: give an example of something that came up recently. I 592 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: was leading a sound meditation session a sound bath. It 593 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: was a group sound bath, and one of the participants 594 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: came up to me after and I will say, after 595 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: all of my sound baths, I leave time at the 596 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: end processing because when you engage in a sound bath, 597 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: things may come up for you. So you might notice pictures, visions, memories, 598 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: You might notice your temperature gets hotter or cold, you 599 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: might get thirsty, you might have some involuntary bodily movement. 600 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: So a lot can actually come up in a sound bath. 601 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: So I always start with that disclaimer, and anyone who 602 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: is deciding to engage in a sound bath know that 603 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: these bodily things may come up, these memories may come 604 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: up for you, and it's totally fine. It's a part 605 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: of the process, or it can't be a part of 606 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: the process. So she came up to me, knowing that 607 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: I was a therapist, and she said that she had 608 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: a couple of memories. It's like memories that she knew 609 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: were real, but she had suppressed for a long time. 610 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: And so we kind of processed just a little bit 611 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: and was pretty clear that something traumatic had happened in 612 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: her childhood that she had pushed down to the surface. 613 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: And so I let her know that this is definitely 614 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: a childhood memory, this is definitely a trauma response coming 615 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: up for you. And I recommended that she tell her 616 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: therapist about this and also kind of explore themes of 617 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: trauma in her life. Right. And so, because I had 618 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: the trading right as a therapist, and I knew that 619 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: this was a part of trauma responses, we know that 620 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: the folks that have experienced trauma, they tend to push 621 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: down certain memories, right, dissociation. We pushed down memories because 622 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: we want to keep ourselves safe. But if I didn't 623 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: know that, I would have been like, oh, okay, well, 624 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: maybe you know in your next meditation, try to recall 625 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: that memory again. Now, if I had done that. We 626 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: know what happens to people that recall traumatic memories before 627 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: they're ready to process it. That's a huge trigger, right, 628 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: And I could have set her down a whole spiral 629 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: if I had said that, But because I knew this 630 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: was a trauma response as they'd listened, that something must 631 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: have happened in your childhood, and she kind of gave 632 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: me the nod that yeah, there was something that happened. 633 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: And I said, listen, this is something you might want 634 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: to process with your therapist this week. This is probably 635 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: a traumatic memory coming up for you. And so she 636 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: was able to get the help that she needed because 637 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: I understood those symptoms. So that's an example of why, Hi, 638 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to have that training 639 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: as well. M Are there any people or any particular 640 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: concerns who like sound healing or breathwork would be contraindicated 641 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: for so, like, if I'm struggling with this, maybe I 642 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: don't want to engage in sound healing. Yes, So I 643 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: definitely feel that if you're someone who is like deep 644 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: deep in their depression, I wouldn't recommend going to a 645 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: sound bath session. I would probably recommend engaging in like 646 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: an individual session, because then the practitioner can curate the 647 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: sound bath for you and tap into the chakras that 648 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: may be blocked, right, So I would give that disclaimer. 649 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: And also I would say too being aware, like if 650 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: you know you're in like the depths of your healing 651 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: and you're easily triggered, right, and we know what our 652 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: triggers are, So if you know that you're easily triggered 653 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: and you're not quite sure if the practitioners trauma informed, 654 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: that's also something that I would say, like making sure 655 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: your practitioner has some sort of trauma informed training, and 656 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: most practitioners put that in their buyout, right, that's a 657 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: really important training to have. But ultimately, outside of that, 658 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: I'd say that anyone can come to a sound bass session, 659 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: see how it feels for them, and ultimately connect with 660 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: the practitioner. If anything came up for you in the 661 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: sound bath session, definitely take a moment to bring it 662 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: up to the practitioner. Hopefully that practitioner can refer you 663 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: to some resources or can be a resource for you. 664 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. So what are some 665 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: of the resources that you find yourself, you know, recommending 666 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: over and over again for anybody who wants to get 667 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: started learning more about like some of the stuff you 668 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: share today. Yeah, so if they want to learn more 669 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: about it, I definitely got to know plug my training 670 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: the Holistic Therapist Academy. So I created this because it 671 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: was a training that I wished was around when I 672 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: was going through the process of becoming a therapist. I've 673 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: done the years of trial and error so that those 674 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: who are interested in this integrative work don't have to 675 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: and so it's a full spectrum program talk about how 676 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: to ethically integrate trauma and from yoga, breathwork, meditation, and 677 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: sound healing into your work with clients. We talk about 678 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 1: you know, how to be trauma and form, we talk 679 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: about ethical considerations, and we talk about how to do 680 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: no harm right, so which techniques go to which diagnoses. 681 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: So if you're a therapist or mental health professional interested 682 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: in learning how to do the integrative work, I would 683 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: definitely tell you to go to our website and check 684 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: out the Holistic Therapist Academy because I curated it for you. 685 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: And then if you're someone who's interested in just you know, 686 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: little trainings here or there, want to get started in 687 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: a breathwork practice, maybe you seek out breathwork facilitator training 688 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: or find a yoga teacher training that also incorporates breath 689 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 1: work and meditation. So ultimately training. I am a big 690 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: proponent doctor geor if you can't tell, i'd of training. 691 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: I believe that these agent practices we were designed to 692 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: use them, and they're intuitive, but we've got to get 693 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: some training in there to do no harm, not only 694 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: to ourselves but to our clients. So you do not 695 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: suggest people just go into YouTube and like searching for 696 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: a breathwork Oh see, now this is where it's like 697 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: that two edged sword, right, So you're now where it's 698 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: like you never want to tell someone no, these practice, 699 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: don't just go and google. So I would say that yes, 700 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, kind of try it out, 701 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: go on Google, go on YouTube, find a breathwork practice. 702 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: But if this is something that you want to lead 703 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: people in, or if you want to be able to 704 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: help yourself, right, Okay, I'm going through an anxiety provoking moment, 705 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: what's a good breathwork exercise that I can use? Right? 706 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: So things like that, if you want to be intelligent 707 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: and skillful and how you engage in these practices, I 708 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: definitely highly recommend getting training in them and even just 709 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: intro trainings if you're just wanting to do it on 710 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: your own. So it's a yes and right, it's a 711 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: both and got it. Got it? So don't just stop 712 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: necessarily with YouTube. Maybe take it a little further. Yes, 713 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: definitely got it. Got it? So tell us where we 714 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: can find you, Neo, what is your website as well 715 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: as any social media handles you'd like to share? Yes, 716 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: so you can find me on my website, The Holistic 717 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: MFT dot com and it is Lenaia S Crawford. On 718 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: all social media platforms, you can connect with me on Instagram, Facebook, 719 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: and Twitter. Yeah, so that's where you can connect with me. So, 720 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: if you're interested and maybe getting started in your soundtealing 721 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: or yoga breath work practice, our yoga studio seven Yoga, 722 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: Sebi and yoga we offer both in person classes and 723 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: virtually if you're not in the Atlanta area, perfect, Thank 724 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: you so much. We will definitely include all of that 725 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: in our show notes and make sure you stay tuned 726 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: after the credits because Nia has a special offering she 727 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: will be giving to you for tuning into the show 728 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: today and there will be a form in the show 729 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: notes for an additional treat, so make sure you add 730 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: your email address there if you'd like to get some 731 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: other giddys from her as well. Yes, yes, I'm excited 732 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: to gift the audience with their own full sound, bath 733 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: and breathwork session perfect. Well, thank you so much for 734 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 1: joining us to day Lyney, I really appreciate it. Yeah, 735 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: thanks for having me, doctor Joy was a pleasure. I 736 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: want to thank Linea once again for joining us for 737 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: this episode. To learn more about her and the work 738 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: she's doing, or to do more research on this topic, 739 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: be sure to visit the show notes at Therapy for 740 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: Blackgirls dot com slash Session two ninety seven, and don't 741 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: forget to text two of your girls right now and 742 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: tell them to check out the episode. 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As we get ready for today's meditation, 753 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: we'll also engage in even breaths, so you'll inhale through 754 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: your nose for account of four and then exhale through 755 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: your mouth for account of four as well. As we 756 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: begin our sound healing meditation, I'll count you through the 757 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: breaths a few times, and then you'll be free to 758 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: engage in that breath work practice while the vibrations do 759 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: their thing. All right, So, wherever you are, find a 760 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: really comfortable position, finding a position that feels most comfortable 761 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: for you, and as you be given to feel into 762 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: the position you chose, I invite you to find a 763 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: point of connection on your body, so maybe placing a 764 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: hand over your heart, maybe placing the other hand over 765 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: your belly, maybe pressing both hands into heart center, or 766 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: even allowing your hands to rest against your thighs. And 767 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: from here I invite you to close your eyes if 768 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: that feels safe for you, or maybe keeping a low gaze, 769 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: staring down at the tip of your nose and so 770 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: with your eyes closed or with a low gaze. Take 771 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: a moment to really feel yourself in your body, beginning 772 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: to notice any sensations or feelings that may be coming 773 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: up for you here, and then really begin to tune 774 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: into your breath, beginning to notice your natural pattern of breathing, 775 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: noticing how the breath flows in and out without the 776 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: need to constrict or control. So as you begin to 777 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: tune into your natural pattern of breathing, take a moment 778 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: to affirm I am still, and as you allow the 779 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: affirmation to sink in, let's begin our breath work practice first, 780 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: taking a deep breath in through the nose, open mouth 781 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: side out, in hailing through the nose for account of 782 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: one two three four exhale one two three four inhale 783 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: one two three four exhale one two three four inhale 784 00:44:24,040 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: one two three four exhale one two three four inhale, axhale, inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale. 785 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: Continue to engage in this breath work pattern on your 786 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: own as you allow the vibrations to wash over you, 787 00:45:53,560 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: continuing to focus on your breath to remember the affirmation 788 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: I am still. I take time to connect with my 789 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: body and breath. I am calm, and move with a 790 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: sense of peace and harmony. Stress and anxiety roll away. 791 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: I am worry free. When I am still, I find 792 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: beautiful and necessary rest. Rest that is an act of resistance, 793 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: rest that is an act of self care. I am still. 794 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: Breathe that in exhale anything that comes against that truth. 795 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: And as you continue to engage in your breath, remember 796 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: that connecting with your body and your breath is an 797 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: act of self and soul care, and that you are 798 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: worthy of the time it takes to nourish your soul. 799 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through the nose, hold the 800 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: breath at the top, Sip in just a little bit 801 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: more air, open mouth side out and slowly blinking, your 802 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: eyes opened if they were closed. Taking a moment to 803 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: allow that feeling of stillness to wash over you, and 804 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: to bring that stillness and that breath with you throughout 805 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: your days and throughout your weeks. And remember that you 806 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: are worthy of the time it takes to nourish your soul. 807 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and I'll see you all again soon.