Speaker 1: Hey, friends, I'm Devin Simone and.
Speaker 2: I'm Davon Rogers, and we.
Speaker 3: Just watched the first episode of Battle of the Eras day.
Speaker 1: It's already off to a wild start. What the Davon?
Speaker 1: What the heck is an era invitation?
Speaker 3: Not TJ fluting people all the way out for all
Speaker 3: those miles to basically be like, oh you might go home.
Speaker 1: Today, girl, not today tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: We started off this season with a night challenge, and
Speaker 4: so I thought this was really cool.
Speaker 2: Like TJ is like, yeah, you want to rock.
Speaker 4: This season invitation only, Okay, Like you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: work your way there, and half of y'all.
Speaker 2: Are gonna have to really battle it out. So I
Speaker 2: think this is really exciting because forty people.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a fan of the show, you know,
Speaker 4: like a purge was gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another right, it's too many a.
Speaker 1: First day girl, I mean, so i'd be hot.
Speaker 3: I mean, you haven't even had time to pull out
Speaker 3: all the lip glosses, you know, like the hostyles you
Speaker 3: wanted to do, and you might be eliminated already. And
Speaker 3: on top of that, they start with the Great Equalizer,
Speaker 3: a puzzle and as Banana says, right, sometimes you just
Speaker 3: ace a puzzle and then sometimes that puzzle aces you
Speaker 3: like it just doesn't work, and then they're in water
Speaker 3: at night. Look, I have no problem swimming. I don't
Speaker 3: mind water challenges. I don't mind height challenges.
Speaker 1: I don't love water at night challenges.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, you'd have been mad at me.
Speaker 4: You'd have been on this podcast, like David, I know
Speaker 4: you didn't just quit I TJ. Look, I don't know
Speaker 4: what's down there, and you don't know what's down here.
Speaker 4: It's been black.
Speaker 2: No, thank you.
Speaker 4: Right, take my chances in elimination eight eliminations. To be specific,
Speaker 4: there are going to be eight eliminations.
Speaker 3: What that is a lot and not TJ calling those
Speaker 3: Snapple caps boats. Those are not real boats, TJ. I
Speaker 3: don't know where you found them. They do look cool.
Speaker 3: The water though, shout out to production because usually the
Speaker 3: water when he walked up like always water that actually
Speaker 3: was really cool.
Speaker 2: It like they were at like Disneyland or something. It
Speaker 2: was so pretty, so nice.
Speaker 4: I love love love, Yeah, I loved it. I'm nerve
Speaker 4: vibe for this cast because we look like they're about
Speaker 4: to go through it through its you know, and then
Speaker 4: like just going through this whole invitational situation, this purge, right,
Speaker 4: that has to be terrifying. You already in a shaky
Speaker 4: situation because you know that you're here with forty of
Speaker 4: the best of the best of the best. Right according
Speaker 4: to TJ, he serves time and low and picked the
Speaker 4: forty best you know competitors to do this season.
Speaker 3: No, I agree. I Okay, here's a question for you.
Speaker 3: Is it because my biggest fear has always been going home, like,
Speaker 3: get elimated right away, that is my biggest fear. Is
Speaker 3: it better if you go home first and at least
Speaker 3: you're going home with a big group, because usually I
Speaker 3: feel like we don't always see purges this early on.
Speaker 3: Or is it worse going home with this big of
Speaker 3: a group, you know?
Speaker 4: Like, I think the blow is still going to feel
Speaker 4: the same because you're still going home first, but you're
Speaker 4: not going home alone, right, And so I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: the group whoever it is that ends up going home,
Speaker 4: they're gonna travel, They're gonna hang out together. At least
Speaker 4: we can be losers together, right, I'm not sitting in
Speaker 4: the hotel room by myself like we all lost, you.
Speaker 2: Know, one band, one sound, and so.
Speaker 4: I think I think it might be better as a
Speaker 4: team a team lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: You kind of feel like the numbers weren't on your side,
Speaker 3: then right, let's show that you failed. But like all
Speaker 3: these and because there are so many great competitors that
Speaker 3: whomever loses in this invitational, it's still gonna be like,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some amazing heavy hitters. Because I don't
Speaker 3: think there's really a weak person on this season. So
Speaker 3: now there's gonna be heavy hitters that you're going home.
Speaker 3: You can kind of feel like, well, I'm going home
Speaker 3: with potentially some champs. I'm going home with some you know,
Speaker 3: heavy hitters across the thing. Speaking of heavy hitters, we
Speaker 3: had ce T and Rachel come out on top of
Speaker 3: Era one.
Speaker 1: That wasn't really a surprise to me, not a surprise.
Speaker 6: To you all.
Speaker 3: Era two we had Lauren Bananas win, also not a surprise,
Speaker 3: right shot. On Era three, we had Tory and Corey win.
Speaker 2: I expected Tori and Devin.
Speaker 4: Not gonna lie, it's a Corey, but I expected Tory
Speaker 4: and Devin. Especially the way Corey struggled on that puzzle.
Speaker 4: I expected it to be Tori and Devin but I
Speaker 4: was very, very very surprised, you know, shout out to Cory.
Speaker 2: He is his time. I guess he may show up.
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 3: And I actually think Corey's probably underrated. I hope for
Speaker 3: this season because I think if he did, I think.
Speaker 2: He'll be a powerhouse.
Speaker 3: Cory, Yeah, I think Corey could definitely be a contender,
Speaker 3: But I agree. I was kind of surprised to see
Speaker 3: him win. And then for Era four we had Michelle
Speaker 3: and Odossio.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised with Michelle.
Speaker 4: She knew she had something to prove, especially after season
Speaker 4: thirty nine, like you can't take chances and coming in
Speaker 4: last she could not specifically. And then with Hirasio, you know,
Speaker 4: going back to to that launch night, that red carpet event,
Speaker 4: we had, uh, the talks people, here's a little inside
Speaker 4: tea from there, and I the talks were that the
Speaker 4: cast had already formulated this target on Horassio because they
Speaker 4: said he was being isolated, he wasn't talking to anybody,
Speaker 4: and so he had already become a number one target.
Speaker 4: At that point, the game hadn't even started and he
Speaker 4: was already a target.
Speaker 2: So him coming in and winning was.
Speaker 4: Like he didn't have a choice. And so I'm proud
Speaker 4: of you because baby, they was coming for you. Okay,
Speaker 4: glad to see that he came out on top. Now
Speaker 4: let's talk about the people who came out below the bottom.
Speaker 2: Katie and Mark. I'm very shocked from Mark, very shocked.
Speaker 2: No shade to Katie. That's my girl.
Speaker 4: I love her down but you know, if Katie doesn't
Speaker 4: want to do something, she's just not gonna do it,
Speaker 4: so you know.
Speaker 2: But Mark, I was very surprised.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Katie being more concerned about how she's gonna look, Yeah,
Speaker 3: how she's gonna look, and just spinning in circle.
Speaker 1: It's sort of I don't know, it's just it's a whole.
Speaker 1: It's a vibe. Kelly Ann and Ryan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't expect them to come in first, but I
Speaker 4: don't know about last, maybe like second or third.
Speaker 6: I was shocked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it can just be that
Speaker 3: it's one of those things, right, or the great equalizer,
Speaker 3: but you have.
Speaker 4: To think of everyone else who's on their team though,
Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So one of those situations. Yeah, yeah, that's Fair Era three,
Speaker 1: Naya and Leroy.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was distraught.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not surprised at Lee in this particular challenge,
Speaker 3: but I don't want Lee to go home, like I
Speaker 3: do not want I want to see this play out
Speaker 3: for Lee.
Speaker 1: I want to see it. Like I'm nervous about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was surprised because friend didn't even have to swim.
Speaker 4: All he had to do was get in the boat.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was a little surprised Friend, but you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's my dog. I'm gonna hold him down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I lovely, Lovely. And then Nurse and THEO. I
Speaker 3: was shocked by Nourice coming both.
Speaker 2: I was shocked by both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was shocked by both because THEO is one
Speaker 4: of the powerhouse competitors, the new upcoming competitors.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: So I was very nice to say about THEO.
Speaker 2: Y'all had nothing bad.
Speaker 4: You know, whatever beef he got is between him and
Speaker 4: the Lord Nourice. I was also surprised because she's.
Speaker 2: Also a powerhouse, right, yeah, right, I was in her air.
Speaker 3: She's one of the ones I'm putting my money on,
Speaker 3: right for sure. The standard she holds for herself, I
Speaker 3: really hope she can call herself back in it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, I don't like she ain't,
Speaker 3: especially after the last season, like ah, yeah, yeah a lot.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 2: I was happy though, because you know, going back to
Speaker 2: Era three, you know I was.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: I was distraught because you know, you want to see nine,
Speaker 4: you want to see Leroy do very well. But a
Speaker 4: Manda not coming in last I think shocked may have
Speaker 4: shocked everybody because I think that was the expectation that
Speaker 4: she was going to be the last. I thought it,
Speaker 4: that's my sister. But I thought I was, like, I
Speaker 4: believe you.
Speaker 1: I believed in you, Amanda.
Speaker 2: I thought you was going in friend. I thought she
Speaker 2: was out of here.
Speaker 4: So Amanda, I love her. I was shocked though, and
Speaker 4: I was so so so proud of her. And then
Speaker 4: you know, I almost teared up because when she made it,
Speaker 4: she said thank you.
Speaker 1: Dad, I said, I know, my heart.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was so proud of her.
Speaker 3: For sure, I really feel like Amanda may be okay,
Speaker 3: And watch me like saying this, right, I'll say, I
Speaker 3: feel like she might be like taking a new like
Speaker 3: taking a slightly different approach this season, hopefully, Like I.
Speaker 1: Think I hope but you know, yeah, she made we
Speaker 1: will see.
Speaker 3: I will say it's disappointing as it was for who
Speaker 3: came in last. What's really interesting is seeing this Michelle
Speaker 3: and Hirasio having to decide together because if you guys
Speaker 3: remember right on thirty nine, they were completely at odds
Speaker 3: the Godfather. Michelle is part of the reason why Orossio
Speaker 3: went home. There was betrayal involved, and so so now
Speaker 3: there's this weird kind of triangle where they have to
Speaker 3: work together at least for this elimination and yeah, who
Speaker 3: do you think they're gonna send home like or put In?
Speaker 4: I don't know, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: they're trying to bank this on Olivia, right, and.
Speaker 2: Horacio has to do what he has to do for
Speaker 2: his woman.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's not just any competitor that's going in. That's his
Speaker 4: for real, for real woman, you know.
Speaker 2: And so it's like, what do you do? Because even
Speaker 2: Michelle breaking.
Speaker 4: Down crying, she's like, you guys are in a position, baby,
Speaker 4: you did that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if ever I've seen Karma do a.
Speaker 3: Quick chirskirt like right, but respect to Nice for wanting
Speaker 3: to go against Olivia since that because Olivia is nothing
Speaker 3: to snuffle at all.
Speaker 1: She is one heck of a competitor.
Speaker 3: So it's not that Nurice is choosing anyone easy at
Speaker 3: any point.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess we're just gonna have to tune in to.
Speaker 3: Find out, and let's talk about our gold stars and
Speaker 3: time out. Who made it on your gold star list
Speaker 3: and who made it on your time So you.
Speaker 4: Know me, I wouldn't be Davine if I didn't break
Speaker 4: my star up into pieces.
Speaker 2: Right here we go.
Speaker 1: This is not rations, this is not nineteen twelve. I
Speaker 1: knew you're going.
Speaker 4: To break my gold star into three pieces, okay, and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give them to a piece of Laurel because
Speaker 4: she won that entire thing. I mean, male female cat
Speaker 4: dogfish frog. My girl did it, Okay, she tore that
Speaker 4: thing up ct of course, like I enjoy watching him
Speaker 4: compete in him to come in with the younger generation,
Speaker 4: you know, and they tried to make fun of him
Speaker 4: the dad by he looked good this season. Oh but
Speaker 4: he coming in and he's still doing his thing. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give him a gold star for that. And
Speaker 4: then I really and I know you may not agree
Speaker 4: with me, but I really want to give Kara a
Speaker 4: gold star for the way she handled herself in that deliberation. Okay,
Speaker 4: I was very surprised and very very proud of her
Speaker 4: because it was not the Kara I expected, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And so that that shows that the
Speaker 4: time away growth happened. And you know, I'm always applawed growth.
Speaker 4: So that's my time. That's my gold stars for this week.
Speaker 4: How about you my gold stars for this week?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: This one, oh well, a mess o two.
Speaker 1: This is not the Hunger Games. I'm not rationing it out.
Speaker 3: My gold star for the week is not one that
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna see coming.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you read it.
Speaker 3: It actually goes towards Kelly Ann and the reason why
Speaker 3: she wants to win. Everybody else we hear the reasons
Speaker 3: why they want to win, right. Sometimes it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's for family. Sometimes it's like for Corey it's because
Speaker 3: he supposedly is going to have a wedding Corey boy bye.
Speaker 3: But Kelly and is because she wants to open an
Speaker 3: animal shelter. And I just appreciate that so much and
Speaker 3: I believe her, like because you know, sometimes people be
Speaker 3: saying that because they want you to like root for them.
Speaker 1: No, if you know.
Speaker 3: Kellyanne, you know that she loves me. That is very
Speaker 3: much Kellyanne, And honestly at all, when I reach a
Speaker 3: level of success, that that too is what I want
Speaker 3: to do. So I'm rooting for her solely off of that.
Speaker 3: I really really would love for her.
Speaker 1: To, you know, accomplish that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know obviously she didn't.
Speaker 3: Hold up for the animals in this particular challenge today,
Speaker 3: but it's all right. There are moments, you know, wins
Speaker 3: and losses. I'm going to give her a gold star
Speaker 3: for her reasoning of being on this season of the challenge,
Speaker 3: and I hope she's able to win some money that
Speaker 3: can go towards helping the animals.
Speaker 1: I'm a big sucker for animals.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: Now we're going to talk about timeouts, and uh, my
Speaker 3: time out has.
Speaker 1: To go to Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't love complainers. I don't and maybe that's maybe
Speaker 3: that I should go seek therapy about that. And you know,
Speaker 3: as a child not being able to express myself, I
Speaker 3: don't know, but I don't love when people woe is
Speaker 3: me a lot like you can maybe do a woe,
Speaker 3: but then let it go Katie spinning in that bottle cap. Now,
Speaker 3: it was entertaining. I understand being disappointed. I understand not
Speaker 3: wanting to be embarrassed, But when your energy shifts to you,
Speaker 3: and car has done that in the past, she did
Speaker 3: she she kind of did it with the puzzle actually
Speaker 3: briefly in this episode, but then she rained it back
Speaker 3: in when people go into the oh everybody beats me,
Speaker 3: or like of course I'm losing, or oh my god,
Speaker 3: woe is me?
Speaker 1: I just it's an ick. It's an ick, it's a
Speaker 1: red flag, it's.
Speaker 3: A So I'm gonna give my time out to Katie
Speaker 3: because while it was funny, I just don't love woe
Speaker 3: is me ism, like get back up, figured it out,
Speaker 3: get in the water, like Devin tip over, like le
Speaker 3: do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: But I don't love the woe is me? Who's your
Speaker 1: time out?
Speaker 6: Day?
Speaker 2: Surprisingly this episode, I didn't have one.
Speaker 5: I feel like.
Speaker 4: Everybody delivered, oh some type of on some level, everyone
Speaker 4: delivered from me.
Speaker 6: I didn't.
Speaker 4: There was not one, and even Katie with the situation.
Speaker 4: For me as a viewer, that's entertaining. I'm gonna laugh
Speaker 4: at that, you know what, I'm saying she was having
Speaker 4: that moment. It's still like that. Okay, that was a
Speaker 4: great addition to this episode for me, and so I
Speaker 4: no one.
Speaker 1: Like it does not roll over.
Speaker 3: This is not a t and ten minutes, I just
Speaker 3: know you do not. Then next week get to give
Speaker 3: out two timeouts.
Speaker 1: Oh no, use it or you lose it.
Speaker 4: I feel like next week I might have to break
Speaker 4: it up because we can know these eliminations.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: If I don't think I would give it to it.
Speaker 4: Maybe, But even that, it was entertainment.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Tony with this puzzle.
Speaker 4: But even with that, it was entertaining because chick chan
Speaker 4: chant because we've been there, like we've been there. Well
Speaker 4: i've been there. I checked wrong check, so I've been there,
Speaker 4: so I get it.
Speaker 2: But even that was entertaining. So, no, I don't have
Speaker 2: one this week, y'all. I don't. I don't have one
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: That's who she's being nice. Now you heard she does
Speaker 3: not get to roll up. She's gonna try. I need
Speaker 3: y'all to hold her, y'all know at your social media
Speaker 3: because you know she's gonna try.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I do, well, yes I do, and y'all
Speaker 4: y'all are probably gonna be mad at me because you
Speaker 4: probably think, oh, it was so you know, so much
Speaker 4: integrity in that, and.
Speaker 2: It was so I feel like I know, yep, it
Speaker 2: was so vissed and it was so bad and it's like, nah,
Speaker 2: we not doing that.
Speaker 4: Derek definitely nominating himself that was a what are you
Speaker 4: and I get it, that's your friend hold down the fort,
Speaker 4: but no, no, no, no, because.
Speaker 2: It is Darrell gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Darrell literally said he wouldn't exactly. So the point when
Speaker 3: they nominated herself for me, I'm like, I'm not I
Speaker 3: love you down.
Speaker 4: I'm a fight tooth and nail to make sure you
Speaker 4: don't have to go in say, but I'm not putting
Speaker 4: me at.
Speaker 2: Risk, like I'm about to do that.
Speaker 5: So it's like, no, Derek, you know better.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, we could also take that
Speaker 4: as he's confident in his ability to take on anybody
Speaker 4: in that house because they don't know who he's gonna pick.
Speaker 2: So he's like, yeah, I go total toe with anybody.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's something kind of like ooh
Speaker 2: about that. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I definitely wouldn't have you will never, not
Speaker 3: ever in your life me nominate, I volunteer as t
Speaker 3: I agree with you. Now, something that does have to
Speaker 3: go in. I didn't love TJ's shirt this episode. Let's
Speaker 3: leave the patchwork now, didn't love it. Didn't love TJ.
Speaker 3: Didn't love that shirt. But it's all right now. If
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about the era ranking, so the
Speaker 3: way we're gonna do it this season, you guys, all right,
Speaker 3: so you know that there's four eras feeling the spirit of.
Speaker 1: You know, the big games, the Olympic Games.
Speaker 3: We're gonna sort of give out gold, silver, bronze, and
Speaker 3: paper or participation trophies each week to the areas because certificates,
Speaker 3: because we know that our feelings for each era, even
Speaker 3: though you know, I'm ERA three, Day's Era four, we're
Speaker 3: not that loyal. So it's gonna change in terms of
Speaker 3: who we think is on top. And we're curious to
Speaker 3: hear what you guys think to you, so certainly let
Speaker 3: us know on social media and.
Speaker 1: In the reviews.
Speaker 3: But era ranking, so Era one, two, three and four day,
Speaker 3: let's start with you who's getting the participation and will
Speaker 3: kind of work our way up.
Speaker 2: Okay, So participation I'm gonna give to Era three because
Speaker 2: what was going on? What was happening there?
Speaker 4: You had somebody who got lost at Tea two, people
Speaker 4: got lost in t like what's happening here?
Speaker 2: Air three was all over the place. I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: you dissipation to them.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give my bronze to Era four simply because
Speaker 4: I expected more. I expected more, you know, and the
Speaker 4: two powerhouses came in last. So I'm like, what we
Speaker 4: gonna do moving forward? Like I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: Geez Louise.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give them bronze, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give silver to Era one. I'm gonna give silver to
Speaker 4: Era one, and then I'm gonna give my gold star
Speaker 4: to Era two.
Speaker 2: Just because again Laurel Ate everybody up.
Speaker 1: Laurel like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna give participation to my own era
Speaker 3: Era three. I agree with you. People got lost at sea.
Speaker 3: It was a mess. I don't really know what they
Speaker 3: were doing over there. They definitely get the paper. And
Speaker 3: then bronze is going to have to go to Air
Speaker 3: four as well because they didn't hold up to what
Speaker 3: my expectation was, but I think they can work it out.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to say that silver goes to Era
Speaker 3: two for me. Although I love what Laurel did and
Speaker 3: Laurel crushed it, still seeing them in deliberation, I'm just
Speaker 3: thinking they're gonna implode, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: the bonds there are not that strong, and I'm not
Speaker 3: that hopeful. My goal's going to Era one if that's
Speaker 3: who have to put my money on right now, it's
Speaker 3: still Era one because I do think they have this
Speaker 3: sort of solid knowing, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 3: understanding that I really feel like Era one could take
Speaker 3: it home at this point as long as their knees
Speaker 3: and joints don't go out. I feel like there is
Speaker 3: potentially a chance. But the good news is we're gonna
Speaker 3: find out if there's a chance for Era one to
Speaker 3: take it home because we have a very special team
Speaker 3: member from Era one, don't we.
Speaker 2: Triple O double O, double O, double Old.
Speaker 4: I mean all the way to the Old and the
Speaker 4: Capitol Old double g H. And that is the Godfather
Speaker 4: Mark Long. He's got on the podcast, Have a chit
Speaker 4: chit chit chit chat with Devin and I and I
Speaker 4: am so excited, so stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Also, guys, by the way, if my mic starts sounding crazy,
Speaker 3: don't judge me. I had to take a trip and
Speaker 3: my mike wouldn't fit in my suitcase.
Speaker 1: Well, it was that or a cute pair of shoes.
Speaker 3: Obviously, I chose the important thing, the shoes, So I'm
Speaker 3: winging it on the mic. Might sound a little crazy,
Speaker 3: but it's still a good interview.
Speaker 4: Yes, sit back, relaxed, and don't forget your snacks because.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking to Mark Long after this.
Speaker 4: We are back and I am so excited about this
Speaker 4: one because we have the one and only the mister
Speaker 4: we oh g'z double O, triple O, double O, double O,
Speaker 4: the Godfather.
Speaker 2: Mark Long is with us.
Speaker 6: Yes, crowd goes, why, Yes, you should see my neighborhood.
Speaker 6: There's kids lining up outside so excited.
Speaker 5: That God and it shouldn't be Godfather.
Speaker 7: You have earned that critical acclaim. We are so excited
Speaker 7: to have you here on the podcast.
Speaker 5: You know we love and endure you. First things first,
Speaker 5: how did it feel?
Speaker 7: I mean you, they call you an og for a reason,
Speaker 7: like bruh you You've been there since triple o double,
Speaker 7: like since the Red Seas.
Speaker 5: Party, You've been here for a long time ago.
Speaker 7: How does it feel to be here for season forty
Speaker 7: and what does it mean for you?
Speaker 6: Man? I always said, I said, I did the chance
Speaker 6: so long ago. My alliance was with Jesus.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 6: No, it's funny because I got the call, right, I
Speaker 6: got the availability call and I had no idea what
Speaker 6: was for. They actually go, do you know what.
Speaker 5: This is for?
Speaker 6: And I was like all stars and they were like, no,
Speaker 6: it's for season forty. And I was like, oh, Diiz
Speaker 6: the pig Daddy because it's so funny because I was
Speaker 6: with people a few weeks ago and him and I
Speaker 6: did what we think was the first challenge because it
Speaker 6: was truly a real world versus Road Rules in ninety eight.
Speaker 6: But the fact that you know, he's still active and
Speaker 6: I'm still active after all of the years. So when
Speaker 6: I got the call like I had to, you know,
Speaker 6: it's such a blessing to be part of it for
Speaker 6: that long and to be healthy enough to be able
Speaker 6: to compete. And it's just, you know, from a fans
Speaker 6: aspect of growing up. You guys know this, fans grow
Speaker 6: up with you as they watch you. So they've grown
Speaker 6: up with me for a long time, and I've got
Speaker 6: so many people coming up just excited that, you know,
Speaker 6: back on the franchise show and it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 6: But I was thrilled to get the call, and once
Speaker 6: I found out who else was going on, it was
Speaker 6: it was a real blessing and I feel so fortunate
Speaker 6: that they called me up and it's great. I'm looking
Speaker 6: forward to you guys.
Speaker 4: See, I'm excited that you accepted the call, and you
Speaker 4: know what, you are a little nerves like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I always say this because it's because look, I'm I'm
Speaker 6: a little older, right, I'm an older cast member, the
Speaker 6: oldest one there. So I still I think, and I
Speaker 6: say this a lot. I still physically look like like
Speaker 6: a like I could deliver like every day, but metill,
Speaker 6: my my bones are still an adult now in that
Speaker 6: age racket, so it takes me a little bit to recover.
Speaker 6: But I will say this, I don't think there's anything
Speaker 6: that I couldn't do at my age now that I
Speaker 6: could do back back then or or vice versa obviously,
Speaker 6: So I feel, you know, I will say that, I
Speaker 6: just I felt I don't know if because Vietnam or
Speaker 6: why not. But I just I I felt like it
Speaker 6: was going to be epic, so I had to be
Speaker 6: a part of it. I've better start, you know, taking
Speaker 6: my Fensrum silver adult Medical, you know, vitamins in the
Speaker 6: morning and starting to work out.
Speaker 7: But you may be using your meta musil as a crutch,
Speaker 7: all right, Mark, But.
Speaker 5: We also know that one that you.
Speaker 7: Know every time I've seen in person, I mean, good, look,
Speaker 7: this dude is jes y'all. If you haven't what you
Speaker 7: see in the photos, I feel like doesn't even do
Speaker 7: it justice. But even on the top of that, you
Speaker 7: started wrestling, Mark, that true market.
Speaker 5: What's going on here? What comes on?
Speaker 6: Because it's funny because you know, someone in my position
Speaker 6: of life, it's only natural to go from thirty five
Speaker 6: or thirty eight years of the challenge in professional wrestling, right,
Speaker 6: It's just a natural progression for someone. No, So as
Speaker 6: we speak right now, I am the PRSW Focal Retone
Speaker 6: Championship Wrestling Champion All Start Champion. Wow, I'll have the belt.
Speaker 6: I get to wrestle all former w W E n
Speaker 6: XT guys. But it's amazing you guys down there, Matt,
Speaker 6: Matt Maschler and Neil Glazier. They give me a huge
Speaker 6: opportun tunity and it's so much fun because it literally
Speaker 6: is like a little mini challenge outside of when I
Speaker 6: do the challenge. So it's it's you know, wrestling is entertainment,
Speaker 6: but it's hard as hell and I've already broken two
Speaker 6: ribs doing it, so it's not a oh my god.
Speaker 7: So I mean, do you want to read what does
Speaker 7: your mom say? Because you always post to receive her
Speaker 7: and sending her so.
Speaker 5: Much love by the way, on this podcast, what.
Speaker 7: Was her reaction when you told her, Hey, mom, I'm
Speaker 7: going back in for a challenge, not even All Stars,
Speaker 7: but I'm going in for season forty and by the way,
Speaker 7: also I'm picking it up a wrestling career.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's she and my sister in law give me
Speaker 6: the most grief from doing that. She's like, she's like,
Speaker 6: are you sure you want to go back? I don't
Speaker 6: want you to hurt yourself, and you know, you never know,
Speaker 6: accidents can happen, and da da da, So I just
Speaker 6: you know, I've been I'm knocking on wood by the
Speaker 6: way as I say this, but I've been blessed with
Speaker 6: not having having too many of you know crazy injuries
Speaker 6: with with wrestling and with the challenge. But I'm smart
Speaker 6: about my I'm smart about you know, my strategies in
Speaker 6: the house.
Speaker 8: So I've always loved and been excited and actually have
Speaker 8: been nervous every time I got the call, because for
Speaker 8: as confident as you could be, or as athletic or smart,
Speaker 8: you still don't know what they're going to throw at you.
Speaker 6: So there's an eleve, right, there's an element of mystery.
Speaker 6: So like there's there's no other time that that I
Speaker 6: feel like I've been as nervous is going into a
Speaker 6: challenge or the night before your first challenge or elimination.
Speaker 6: Like I'd be lying it. I said, I wasn't a
Speaker 6: mess because you just want to do so well and
Speaker 6: you don't want to look like a complete flop, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. So but I will say this,
Speaker 6: I I We've just watched the first episode, and there's
Speaker 6: nothing more deflating than trying to put your forty puzzle
Speaker 6: together still while people are actually finishing the race, putting
Speaker 6: their the lights. I remember, I remember Rachel and Tt
Speaker 6: going bad from a back done done, and I'm still
Speaker 6: struggling with this dam forty puzzle because I didn't know
Speaker 6: what you guys see was. They just told us we're
Speaker 6: gonna do a forty puzzle that was made out of blocks.
Speaker 6: I never saw this puzzle. I didn't know if this
Speaker 6: puzzle had any background and into my like the good
Speaker 6: thing about So when we ran, I actually got to
Speaker 6: the Era one post first. So now that's gonna that's
Speaker 6: gonna look awesome on camebra, you know, like me running
Speaker 6: and eating everyone else. But the fact was I got
Speaker 6: to my first station, and look what you're doing these
Speaker 6: your eyes might wander a little bit someone else was going.
Speaker 6: I had no one in front of me to even
Speaker 6: look off of. I had dark body, and I'd relighted by.
Speaker 6: I'd take a little peek back and see what the
Speaker 6: hell are you doing it? But I didn't know what
Speaker 6: I was doing for the first fifteen minutes of this thing.
Speaker 6: But again, every once in a while, I like to
Speaker 6: say this, every once in a while, I have to
Speaker 6: show people how terrible I really am the puzzles, and
Speaker 6: this episode was was a highlight of that.
Speaker 7: But are you sure it's not your strategy Mark to
Speaker 7: keep people from thinking that you know you're a dominant coorse.
Speaker 6: I feel like it might be if that was a strategy,
Speaker 6: then I pretty much executed it very poorly because but again,
Speaker 6: I never I never feel confident about doing anything. I mean,
Speaker 6: I know I can do everything physically, but sometimes with
Speaker 6: these puzzle situations are with these you know, That's one
Speaker 6: of the reasons I'm a broadcast journalism major. I went
Speaker 6: to college and said, what's the least math I can do? Whatever?
Speaker 6: He sign.
Speaker 7: Yes, I do, not like I'm like, give me two
Speaker 7: countdown clops, one that counts up and one that counts down,
Speaker 7: because I don't want to do the math.
Speaker 5: To figure out where we are. Just literally give me too.
Speaker 6: I think Johnny had the perfect interview that Today's like
Speaker 6: I'd either done really well at puzzles or just have
Speaker 6: totally been clueless. There's no there's no gray area of
Speaker 6: I either know it and press it or it's the
Speaker 6: most hardest thing I've ever done. But you know I
Speaker 6: I I'm glad to be there, you know, Era one.
Speaker 6: I loved being with those those cast members in my group.
Speaker 6: I have a lot of history with see Team Rachel Derrell,
Speaker 6: Brad Derrek, Jody, everyone there, Katie, Anissa, so like one
Speaker 6: of the things that I did notice about our group
Speaker 6: the first week was you would go in all the
Speaker 6: other eras kind of their areas that they were hanging out,
Speaker 6: and they'd be like grouped up and choose and like
Speaker 6: practicing sadoku right like, and we would just get together
Speaker 6: and bullshit and talk about old times, which I was like,
Speaker 6: that's that's one of the things that I think we
Speaker 6: used to love about the challenges, was it. You know, today,
Speaker 6: obviously you know you're playing for a lot more money,
Speaker 6: but back when you're playing with a razor scooter package
Speaker 6: in the temp repeated bed, You're like, let's no, I
Speaker 6: don't need to love to stress out. So I did
Speaker 6: notice a very heavy strategy change between Era one and
Speaker 6: all the other eras.
Speaker 7: Mark, do you feel like that's like both a pro
Speaker 7: and a con? And I think this is a looted
Speaker 7: in the episode that on one hand, Johnny mentioned that,
Speaker 7: like on one hand Era one, there is a certain
Speaker 7: level of like maturity that comes and you guys do
Speaker 7: have such long history in these strong bonds, so I
Speaker 7: feel like the expectation would be that you can communicate
Speaker 7: well right and better in that way. But on the
Speaker 7: other hand, when it comes to like, right.
Speaker 5: Now, the game that TJ is.
Speaker 7: Making everyone play where you have to kind of eat
Speaker 7: your own right and you're going within your teams, does
Speaker 7: that then put you at a disadvantage because you have
Speaker 7: this long.
Speaker 5: History or do you feel like it doesn't really matter?
Speaker 6: No. I love the fact. I love the fact that
Speaker 6: we all do have this history because it's nice. There's
Speaker 6: so many times where we all got to hang out
Speaker 6: as a big group guys and girls and just talk
Speaker 6: about funny moments from the past and I'm talking like
Speaker 6: og og stuff. So we would we would spend some
Speaker 6: of the nights just bullshitting rather than you know, practicing
Speaker 6: our craft, which we probably should have been doing these
Speaker 6: Sudoku puzzles and all that other craft. But yeah, but
Speaker 6: that first, that elimination, the twist at the beginning, kind
Speaker 6: of going against your own it's I want to say
Speaker 6: it was easier for us to get through that, but
Speaker 6: it's still very heartbreaking because obviously we're so close and
Speaker 6: we didn't want to Like, I didn't want to get
Speaker 6: there right away. I have to go against my buddies
Speaker 6: and my friends. I wanted to go against like Filasso
Speaker 6: or Cory or whoever, just so like Devin, like I
Speaker 6: wanted to go against some of the other younger guys.
Speaker 6: So the fact that that first wave we had to
Speaker 6: kind of trim the fat, it was kind of a
Speaker 6: bummer because I'm like, oh man, now I got to
Speaker 6: go against these guys. And you know, I, like I said,
Speaker 6: I'm not you know.
Speaker 5: TJ didn't care about people at all.
Speaker 6: I was every time I go in, I wish I
Speaker 6: could call TJ. I'm like, TJ gets your ass on here.
Speaker 5: I know a question mark.
Speaker 7: You know when Day and I were there ambushing you
Speaker 7: all behind the scenes before we kicked off this epic
Speaker 7: season of season forty, now we saw some people hitting
Speaker 7: up the gym on the low, being prepared, getting ready
Speaker 7: to go into the game. Were you regularly hitting the
Speaker 7: gym when you first got to Vietnam as well?
Speaker 6: When I got to Vietnam, I had every intent on
Speaker 6: going through the program doing my thing, but as you know,
Speaker 6: it's a foreign country, and I literally got a bacterial
Speaker 6: bound infection the second day. Oh no, I was dehydrated.
Speaker 6: So as much as I'd say I was, I wish
Speaker 6: I was in the gym. I was just trying to
Speaker 6: like get my body right, I didn't feel I didn't
Speaker 6: feel like myself going into it because of that, And
Speaker 6: not to say that that's gonaffect me either way, but
Speaker 6: you know, you have that program because if you sit
Speaker 6: in your room all day, you start self doubting your stuff.
Speaker 6: You hear people going to the gym, so I attempted
Speaker 6: a few gym things. So it's just I wish I
Speaker 6: felt a little better, but I was there. You know,
Speaker 6: a couple of people I've never met before, Like I
Speaker 6: was excited to meet Amanda because I heard she was
Speaker 6: a menace. I loved meeting her. We we actually got along.
Speaker 6: We got along really great. I still I still reach
Speaker 6: out to her now. I follow her little journeys with
Speaker 6: her little son, so she's She's someone that was surprisingly
Speaker 6: became close with there. But it was you know, I've
Speaker 6: never did a show with Jenny, who's just like a
Speaker 6: email athlete athlete like this, This woman is legit. I've
Speaker 6: never done the show with Michelle, who was very like
Speaker 6: I think she's a very strategically epic player. He's so
Speaker 6: smart and has the abuilding I don't know if it's
Speaker 6: the survivor owner, but she has the ability to think
Speaker 6: like three or four steps ahead, which is great in
Speaker 6: this game. And Devin two I've never played with. Devin
Speaker 6: is another smart guy that that can take two or steps.
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. She's a girl Devon.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like they're a perfect supple at the moment.
Speaker 4: Wow, Mark, I have to know, like, because I know
Speaker 4: we're into it, we're heavy, and we're hot, but we
Speaker 4: haven't even tapped on the fact that you came into
Speaker 4: this season and there's all of these.
Speaker 2: New people here.
Speaker 4: People you may know, people you may not know. I
Speaker 4: know we mix amingo at events and things like that,
Speaker 4: but now you're playing against these people who were you
Speaker 4: the most shocked or the most nervous to see like,
Speaker 4: oh you might.
Speaker 6: Be a problem. Oh man, you know who's not that
Speaker 6: unshocked because because I've seen him play. But you know
Speaker 6: who's another one that is really a great player is
Speaker 6: Piland kiland Island is another one. He's super smart and
Speaker 6: he doesn't get overly high or low on himself, so
Speaker 6: like he kind of plays a real calm game. And
Speaker 6: I noticed that at the beginning just how he would
Speaker 6: operate around the house. He was never the one that
Speaker 6: was being the class clown. He's never the one, you know,
Speaker 6: bragging about this or that, but he always you could
Speaker 6: always tell he did his homework and how to play
Speaker 6: this game. So I was always like, you know, he
Speaker 6: was on my radar. Of course, Hirasio is on my radar,
Speaker 6: just because I get approached by so many fans thinking
Speaker 6: I'm Horacio because we looked so much. That is That
Speaker 6: is my ongoing joke. I was with him, gud, you
Speaker 6: guys are seeing us in the same room. Now you
Speaker 6: know we're two separate people. I know he gets confusing, no,
Speaker 6: but but he's a He's like a lung little Latin
Speaker 6: Jordan with his uh just in his endurance and whatnot.
Speaker 6: That guy go for forever. But you know, and I
Speaker 6: I've done stuff with the recent and Olivia, so was
Speaker 6: fun to see them and a vive man who VI
Speaker 6: who has been on a year. I was so excited
Speaker 6: to see her because she's a little she's a pickbull man,
Speaker 6: she's smart, she knows how to play this game too,
Speaker 6: and you always got to be scared about not scared
Speaker 6: about it. I was scared in a good way that
Speaker 6: CT was on my team. CT is just such an
Speaker 6: epic existence on the challenge.
Speaker 7: What was it like seeing CT get emotional when he
Speaker 7: when they were talking about season fourty euse id be like,
Speaker 7: we don't always get to see.
Speaker 5: That side of CT. We see a lot of size
Speaker 5: about that sitting up there, Brian, what was that like?
Speaker 6: Look, he's such a I've said this, there's there's only
Speaker 6: a few cast members that if you say their name,
Speaker 6: there's no one else like them, and CT is on
Speaker 6: the top of that list. There's no one else you
Speaker 6: can compare to that as CT. Right, So he just
Speaker 6: he's so he's so unique. There's no one you can't
Speaker 6: until you've hung out with them, U can't explain like
Speaker 6: how he is in person because he's just he's just
Speaker 6: so interesting to me. So the fact that he came
Speaker 6: back to what was kind of an awesome moment for
Speaker 6: me because I get to see him while on occasion
Speaker 6: and we get to hang out and become closer. But
Speaker 6: it's always nice to really get to spend a more
Speaker 6: lengthy time with someone like that. And he was great,
Speaker 6: he's great. He was in my room, we chopped it
Speaker 6: up and he was funny and you know, DT's get
Speaker 6: your wee thing about CT is he'll show up and
Speaker 6: he's not really in great shape. So he starts training.
Speaker 6: When he gets to the.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's his first.
Speaker 6: Day of training and you see it cuts up the alcohol,
Speaker 6: gets his food right, and comes all him in the laperon,
Speaker 6: just completely sweaty from doing whatever he's done. But like,
Speaker 6: he's an interesting cat. I love seeing him getting emotional
Speaker 6: because him and I am especially like you know, he was,
Speaker 6: he's an OG two. So him and I have been
Speaker 6: involved in this game for many, many, many years, and
Speaker 6: people have grown up with him as well, So it's
Speaker 6: nice that we've got to spend some time together, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 7: And so Mark, when you found out from TJ that,
Speaker 7: you know, oh my god, you other and see the
Speaker 7: forty and then all the fund's over because almost half
Speaker 7: of everyone is going into elimination.
Speaker 5: What went through your mind?
Speaker 7: What was the feeling or the energy when TJ dropped
Speaker 7: that bomb on everyone?
Speaker 6: You're already right here, already at your anxiety levels, already
Speaker 6: at at ten because that first challenge, we're out in
Speaker 6: the middle of nowhere, so we had a long day, right,
Speaker 6: so it was exhaustion and anxiety. And he tells that
Speaker 6: it's like a dut punch because, like I said, we
Speaker 6: were so amped to go against in our quote unquote terms,
Speaker 6: the youngsters, right, we were so amped about that. To
Speaker 6: find out that not only was that not happened, but
Speaker 6: we're going to lose someone right off the bat that
Speaker 6: has to go head to head, it's just everyone. It
Speaker 6: was kind of deflating and it sucks. But you know,
Speaker 6: like TJ, they always throw us curveballs, and forty people's
Speaker 6: a lot of people to start off with. So we
Speaker 6: knew something. We knew something was going to happen, but
Speaker 6: we didn't know it was going to be that quick.
Speaker 9: And that many good, yeah, many, But I will say this,
Speaker 9: when it's that many, you know, when there's actually other
Speaker 9: losers and girl guys, girl losers that male losers from
Speaker 9: the challenge, you don't feel bad about Lucy.
Speaker 6: Not only did I lose, but you know too, and
Speaker 6: so did this one, and so did that one, you know,
Speaker 6: and so did uh Maurice. She lost too, So it
Speaker 6: kind of makes the losing part a little easier.
Speaker 5: Who do you think can we thought?
Speaker 2: I mean, don't make him say it.
Speaker 6: To make him say, well, well, you know, Katie never
Speaker 6: did it unfortunately, so Katie just was out. But I
Speaker 6: think I don't know if Leroy had to get dish
Speaker 6: back in from the Korean Coast Guard, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think he was maybe the one out there the most.
Speaker 6: But yeah, that was a hard night. And those both
Speaker 6: those are like those are like t tops, so you
Speaker 6: literally paddle and you spin in a circle. The best
Speaker 6: line with Katie was like, I just don't want to
Speaker 6: look like a jackass.
Speaker 5: That was funny.
Speaker 6: She cracks me up.
Speaker 2: She might be one of the funniest. Yeah, absolutely, Katie
Speaker 2: is hilarious.
Speaker 6: It was brutal, though, and I I think you know,
Speaker 6: that set at precedent though for the rest of the
Speaker 6: whole challenge, I think people are thinking like, oh, this
Speaker 6: is expect the unexpected. It might not always be friendly
Speaker 6: and you might have to fire against your family every
Speaker 6: once in a while. But you know, I think we
Speaker 6: handled it. I think we handled it pretty good. In
Speaker 6: the deliberation thing, you know.
Speaker 4: That's deliberation was something serious, Oh my god, something serious.
Speaker 6: The leading like I have a producer's hack, so I'm
Speaker 6: always to give a producer it's like, well, like doing
Speaker 6: into that thing. It was like it was like we
Speaker 6: were shooting like an episode of Game of Thrones there
Speaker 6: it was like it was awesome and it was like
Speaker 6: it was moody, it was uncomfortable and everyone had to
Speaker 6: go in there wanted a time and do it. But uh,
Speaker 6: I love that. I think it adds an elements of out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we have to take a quick break,
Speaker 4: but we'll be right back after this. Okay, let's get.
Speaker 2: Back to the show.
Speaker 3: Mark.
Speaker 5: Did any of the ogs hook up with anybody?
Speaker 6: Oh, Brad Brad had a little hooked up session. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think I think in the first week, Brad and
Speaker 6: the Brad and Emily how about that?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they were they were playing their own they were
Speaker 6: playing their own elimination. It was called Hide the Sausage
Speaker 6: and Brad was winning. And you feel about this, I
Speaker 6: wanted to save that line forever. No, they I think
Speaker 6: they had some puddle sessions and some sucky face so
Speaker 6: it was uh, you know, they they they bonded over
Speaker 6: their spirituality of like uh, meditation and that stuff. You know.
Speaker 6: You guys know Emily, she's she's like one kind of
Speaker 6: space removed from just living on the land for the
Speaker 6: rest of their life and knowing that Emily is great. Emily.
Speaker 6: I want to every time I see Emily, I squeeze
Speaker 6: her because I want her positive energy in mind.
Speaker 5: She just rady and it's like such a beautiful energy.
Speaker 6: She really really and Brad is my god. I love Brad.
Speaker 6: Brad asks me every other month should I shaved the beard?
Speaker 6: And I said, hell, no, you're not shaved. That beer
Speaker 6: it is, I said, I said, you grow that thing
Speaker 6: down her knees, my friend. I said that, here's you. Now.
Speaker 4: As long as he has maintenance and it smells good, I.
Speaker 2: Have no issues.
Speaker 5: I don't want to know what's in that beer.
Speaker 6: The girls of I think the females wanted to shave.
Speaker 6: The females wanted to shave the beer because Brad. I think,
Speaker 6: you know, Brad's a handsome man without the beer. But
Speaker 6: that beard is down, yeah, and I love I love
Speaker 6: that for him. I don't want to shave it.
Speaker 2: Fana bread, yep, Fanta bread.
Speaker 4: I have to know because they got a little spicy
Speaker 4: in this effort. Okay, And while we were watching this recording,
Speaker 4: you said, you love the Polly and Theo stuff that
Speaker 4: was like in the house in real time.
Speaker 6: It's so funny. Polly's so dramatic, and I love Paulli,
Speaker 6: but he is so dramatic. Uh, but he plays it
Speaker 6: like it's fun to watch because he's just who he is.
Speaker 6: But that was two So I think in terms of
Speaker 6: me being I was like you guys at that point
Speaker 6: because I wasn't on their team, just watching him from afar,
Speaker 6: but seeing him the house rack me up because they
Speaker 6: were trying to like fleas on each other, like when
Speaker 6: they when they least expected or peacock around showing their
Speaker 6: feathers off because you know, you don't know this if
Speaker 6: you after the challenge. It's a couple of days or
Speaker 6: a day at least before you do the elimination, so
Speaker 6: there's time in the house of like X. So those
Speaker 6: two are hilarious. And I actually loved THEO. I told
Speaker 6: you because Theo's a big boy. Deal's like six six
Speaker 6: two fifty and he used to run like be a sprinter.
Speaker 6: So I don't know what they're gonna do. But if
Speaker 6: Paulie goes in there with THEO and it's something brutal,
Speaker 6: he's gonna have a problem. But flip side of that
Speaker 6: is I think Paulie's now worked himself up to thinking
Speaker 6: he could beat anyone in anything, that that's going to
Speaker 6: be a great battle. But man, the dramatics inside that
Speaker 6: that elimination chat or the nomination chat was was epic
Speaker 6: and I loved it. I was like you, I was
Speaker 6: a fan. I was like, oh, this is hilarious. I'm
Speaker 6: loving this ship.
Speaker 2: You know who I was proud of in the deliberation.
Speaker 2: I was proud of Kara. I felt like she ate
Speaker 2: that little thing.
Speaker 4: Up I think on strategy, yeah, sure, but yeah, we
Speaker 4: don't see that from Carra.
Speaker 2: We don't see that.
Speaker 5: That's there's carl Us.
Speaker 6: Like the old Carra would have talked her way right
Speaker 6: into you're absolutely gonna nolimination. Like the old car would
Speaker 6: have been like, fuck it, I know what you guys
Speaker 6: are gonna do. Throw me in that's cool. But like
Speaker 6: this was like the the evolved car of just saying, hey,
Speaker 6: I know this situation. I'm gonna try to play this,
Speaker 6: you know, responsibly and say let's work together now, guys,
Speaker 6: rather than against each other and be strong. But yeah,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be I'm I'm I don't know if there's
Speaker 6: gonna be a sunny, you know, a sunny side of
Speaker 6: this thing, or if it's gonna go down and completely,
Speaker 6: so I'm looking forward to again. We're not in there
Speaker 6: listening to this, so when you guys see it too,
Speaker 6: it's new to us too because the eras aren't sitting there.
Speaker 6: When the other eras are there, you only see yours.
Speaker 6: So this is fun for me. But I love it.
Speaker 6: It's just it's you know, Caara and Laurel have had
Speaker 6: a thing for years. I don't know if they deep
Speaker 6: down love each other, if they deep down hate each
Speaker 6: other and would rather see each other not even exist.
Speaker 6: I have no idea, but I don't think either. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't they I don't think that they know because
Speaker 6: you'll see him at one time and they're having like
Speaker 6: a chat, right They're having like a real four deel
Speaker 6: nice chat, and then you see him like an hour
Speaker 6: later they're yelling at each other. I'm like, how does
Speaker 6: this go from that to that? So quick?
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 7: You know? I will say this though, Laurel in her interview,
Speaker 7: is not beaten the robot allegations anytime soon, because crazy
Speaker 7: Clara being like and I don't know, and then Laurel's like,
Speaker 7: I am here to be on a team with Kara.
Speaker 7: You're welcome, but I'm just like Laurel even rote by,
Speaker 7: please stop speaking of allegations or getting beat.
Speaker 5: What were your thoughts about the whole? So we see Derek, we.
Speaker 7: Love Derek, You me love and yeah, you already know
Speaker 7: we loved Herrell and Derek being like, I owe you one,
Speaker 7: you know, so I'm going to nominate myself, which is,
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, just what are you? And then of
Speaker 7: course we see Darrell being like, that's really sweet, and
Speaker 7: but I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5: Could be I'm not doing it though, What are your
Speaker 5: thoughts on that?
Speaker 6: Look, Derek and I Derek was my number one guy.
Speaker 6: It's been like that for years now, and then everyone
Speaker 6: knows that. So Derek volunteering, you know, I was totally
Speaker 6: fine with that. Like I've always said this, and we
Speaker 6: said this together. A win for Derek is a win
Speaker 6: for me. A win for me is a win for Derek.
Speaker 6: So it I know that he really was harping on
Speaker 6: owing Darrell because we need. Darrell and Derek see each
Speaker 6: other a lot of times throughout the year still, and
Speaker 6: it's always like the trifecta of friendship, right, and I
Speaker 6: saw those guys this weekend and we're like, we just
Speaker 6: get along so well. So it's again back to TJ.
Speaker 6: It sucks that we had to pick one of each
Speaker 6: other because we are so close. But in the end,
Speaker 6: I don't think it would have been bare to throw
Speaker 6: Brad in because he came in a close second to
Speaker 6: c Eta. I don't think that would be right either,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So we knew it and
Speaker 6: it was gonna suck. But you know, I love Derek
Speaker 6: and I love his I've said this too, someone said
Speaker 6: you have to pick a person, and this is a challenge.
Speaker 6: You guys are all going to go in a room
Speaker 6: and you're gonna fight and scratch and kill each other,
Speaker 6: and only two people are going to walk out of
Speaker 6: the room. Who would you want as your partner? And
Speaker 6: it would be Derek one hundred percent because this guy,
Speaker 6: he never quits. He would rather die than quit. He'd
Speaker 6: be like the guy that you know runs out and
Speaker 6: passes out before he quits because he just I don't
Speaker 6: know how this guy operates. But me and Durrell lap like,
Speaker 6: this guy will run until he passes out before he
Speaker 6: taps out. Which you want that person on your team? Yeah,
Speaker 6: for sure, he's red for this kind of stuff, like
Speaker 6: to this day, that him and that Josh and hit
Speaker 6: his elimination.
Speaker 4: That elimination, Oh my gosh. And as you were speaking,
Speaker 4: I immediately thought about that, and I just was thinking
Speaker 4: about the flood over his eye and how it just
Speaker 4: was like not there was no quit.
Speaker 2: There was no quit.
Speaker 6: Do you know that elimination I spoke about this past week.
Speaker 6: That elimination took two hours to do between those guys,
Speaker 6: and it wasn't it wasn't stops. It was two hours
Speaker 6: of that. And he said the next day when he
Speaker 6: flew home, he was so beat up. He actually had
Speaker 6: to get some guy to help him put his luggage
Speaker 6: above the seat and the plane. He was so bad.
Speaker 6: But that's how he just does not give up. I
Speaker 6: love that guy.
Speaker 4: So after all of this talking and deliberating going on, Rachel, besides.
Speaker 2: She's going to leave the decision up to CT. How
Speaker 2: do you feel about that?
Speaker 6: That is that is like the smartest move Rachel could
Speaker 6: have done, because it takes all of the blood off
Speaker 6: of her hand. If Anissa ends up going in right,
Speaker 6: it's like, look, Anissa, I'm going to leave this up
Speaker 6: to CT, who is probably definitely putting you in but
Speaker 6: it's not going to come for me, so you can't
Speaker 6: be that mad at me. And it's like, yeah, the
Speaker 6: funny thing is Anissa knew exactly what she was doing
Speaker 6: to kind of put put past the buck because again
Speaker 6: CT has thrown Asa in elimination so many times in
Speaker 6: the past. So it was very smart on Rachel on
Speaker 6: her side. But I think it took a Nissa by
Speaker 6: surprise a little bit. I think she was sour about
Speaker 6: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Because in her confessional we see her hype it up, like, oh,
Speaker 4: yeah we dated, that's my friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you did what?
Speaker 6: Yeah, You're like, what's up? But again, if you want
Speaker 6: to like lay straight from the starts, she came in
Speaker 6: a distant force. So she was like, well that one
Speaker 6: on the chopping box and I get it. It just
Speaker 6: so it looks again, they wanted us to do this.
Speaker 6: They want friends to go against friends this first episode.
Speaker 6: You know, they want to see what happens, you know,
Speaker 6: with either friends or with people that have been nemesis
Speaker 6: for a while that haven't squashed it. I'm excited.
Speaker 5: Who do you think?
Speaker 7: Because we were talking about Aviv earlier, right, and like
Speaker 7: and when we had a Viv on last week on
Speaker 7: the podcast and we were talking about in advantage, it
Speaker 7: seems like she may have. It's not only that she is,
Speaker 7: you know, in shape, she's super smart, she's a go getter.
Speaker 7: She was speaking about feeling kind of like the odd
Speaker 7: man out a little because she's like, look, a lot
Speaker 7: of these people know each other.
Speaker 5: I haven't been on in all of these years.
Speaker 7: And Dan I were saying that that could be an
Speaker 7: advantage because you can kind of fly under the radar
Speaker 7: if you play it right in your experience and with
Speaker 7: your expertise. Who do you think currently is in the
Speaker 7: best position for politicking. Is it someone who has a
Speaker 7: lot of friends across multiple eras or do you think
Speaker 7: the lone wolves that haven't played for a while, like
Speaker 7: in Aviv might stand to do better.
Speaker 6: I think I think Aviv what she said in that
Speaker 6: deliberation too got her so far in this game, because
Speaker 6: she said, look, I don't have friendships with you guys,
Speaker 6: but I also don't have any problems with it. But
Speaker 6: I don't have any enemies from the plots. I've never
Speaker 6: I've never done anyone in this room wrong. The only
Speaker 6: thing I can do is show you that I'll be
Speaker 6: a loyal teammate. That that secured her for me if
Speaker 6: I was on that team, for her being on this
Speaker 6: thing a while, because the fact that there are so
Speaker 6: many I mean, the mandatories, the Jodin and Nieces believe
Speaker 6: or not, the Jodyin and Nieces, they're you know, they're
Speaker 6: they're they're not the best of friends. But there's so
Speaker 6: many like guys and girls. So I think of Viv's
Speaker 6: position on her team especially will give her so many
Speaker 6: more positives than negatives. Being that way, I think it's
Speaker 6: gonna work out well for her because again, you know,
Speaker 6: Laurel doesn't have this nasty history with the viv Or
Speaker 6: but but she does with Kara, And if Cara is there,
Speaker 6: there's always going to be someone in front of of
Speaker 6: ev that that would probably take the attention off of her.
Speaker 6: So I think of the you know, Laurel love the
Speaker 6: hit lift ma'am oh, Yeah, she is sitting pretty and
Speaker 6: and Aviv knows how to play it, you know, the
Speaker 6: Viv's in there cooking people's food, getting people this like
Speaker 6: Ifvi's a mom and she's being she was mom and
Speaker 6: out at the beginning of that thing, just being a
Speaker 6: really solid person. So I think she's gonna go far.
Speaker 2: I love that for her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw a lot of deliberating this episode, a
Speaker 4: lot of talking, a lot of negotiating all of the things.
Speaker 2: But we didn't get to see an elimination.
Speaker 4: Okay, and the people you are thirsty, okay, and I'm
Speaker 4: over here, salliate not.
Speaker 6: I need to see something. So what can.
Speaker 4: You give us any any little tea, little tea something.
Speaker 6: I'll give you some tea. This isn't even spoiling anything.
Speaker 6: The first night of eliminations are If you like headbangers,
Speaker 6: you're gonna love the first night of elimination. I think
Speaker 6: they gave az I think they gave the puzzles to
Speaker 6: arrest the first night of elimination. But it that way.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna see some epic battles. You're gonna see
Speaker 6: some major triumphs. You're gonna see some people go home
Speaker 6: that probably never thought they would go home this early.
Speaker 6: But uh, it's an It was a it was a
Speaker 6: hell of a night. Put it that. When you guys
Speaker 6: are in store for a great, great episode of probably
Speaker 6: it's the whole episode is probably gonna be Eliminations there's
Speaker 6: eight eliminations. That's a that's a lot of elimination. So
Speaker 6: I think you guys are for a real treatment. And
Speaker 6: I think uh DJ even enjoyed that night.
Speaker 1: I bet he did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he just got the easiest job. Man, he's no stress.
Speaker 6: He really got to deal with the bullshit.
Speaker 9: I'm like, j let me just let me host, so,
Speaker 9: let me just do that calm down.
Speaker 3: Job.
Speaker 6: Let me get in with the Double D crew then,
Speaker 6: because I oh my god, this thing, you know, I know,
Speaker 6: probably wrapping up so but this thing. If you're a
Speaker 6: fan of the challenge, I will leave you at this.
Speaker 6: This challenge has so many factors that makes the challenge great,
Speaker 6: from the competition, to the cast, to the show mances,
Speaker 6: to the fight to the just It's such a roller
Speaker 6: coaster ride and I think I think once it's said done,
Speaker 6: you guys are going to think that this is probably
Speaker 6: one of the best. So I'm looking forward to it
Speaker 6: as well. For you guys.
Speaker 5: See, Mark, you are one of the best.
Speaker 7: And before you go, we do have a question for you.
Speaker 5: About the teams and what we don't expect.
Speaker 7: But before we get to that, you know, at the
Speaker 7: top of this interview, you spoke about being in this
Speaker 7: new chapter, in this sort of era of your life.
Speaker 7: You accomplished so much, but you're fully back in the
Speaker 7: game for seeds and forty. You've been here so long,
Speaker 7: started a wrestling career. I hear all the time from
Speaker 7: Challenge fans and viewers who watch this show, who sometimes
Speaker 7: live vicariously through us, or who sometimes take inspiration for
Speaker 7: moments in our life. And I think you were just
Speaker 7: such an inspirational story about never being too old, it
Speaker 7: never being too late, being able to, you know, start again.
Speaker 7: So what little nugget with them can you share to
Speaker 7: anyone listening who maybe is for whatever reason, feels like
Speaker 7: they're past their prime. They could be in their twenties,
Speaker 7: they could be in their thirties, they could be in
Speaker 7: their sixties, whatever, but they feel like oaing.
Speaker 5: I want to do, but I don't know if I can.
Speaker 5: What would you share with them?
Speaker 6: You know what I've you know what I've found that
Speaker 6: I live on and it's and it's really kept me
Speaker 6: in a good place is you have to find a
Speaker 6: place in spot in your life to really put time
Speaker 6: and effort into your passion. And that's across the board.
Speaker 6: So you have a job that you have a job
Speaker 6: because you're just making the money, but you don't rub it.
Speaker 6: You have to make time for your passion because it
Speaker 6: bounces out the bad times with the stuff that you
Speaker 6: really care about and look forward to. And the fact
Speaker 6: that all stars with such a blessing and I never
Speaker 6: gave up on a vision and then I'm getting rewarded
Speaker 6: from it and now a comfort full circle of Season
Speaker 6: forty that MTV and doing stuff like this and being
Speaker 6: a part of the reality community has always been. It's
Speaker 6: always been such a special place in my heart and
Speaker 6: it fills a void that nothing else fills. So if
Speaker 6: you guys are going down I feel like you're too
Speaker 6: late for this, or I can't get in shape, or
Speaker 6: I couldn't do this, or I can't go back and
Speaker 6: try to do this career or whatever. As long as
Speaker 6: you find space in your day to occupy and feel
Speaker 6: that that that passion void, you're gonna be just fine
Speaker 6: and you'll be a better person for it. You'll be
Speaker 6: in a better mind frame for it, and you can
Speaker 6: go to bed wrestling easy knowing that at least you
Speaker 6: are still following your dreams to some capacity. The people
Speaker 6: that totally give up other people I feel sorry for
Speaker 6: because it's like you only get one ride on this
Speaker 6: roller coaster in life, So you should make yourself time
Speaker 6: for these, these these moments, to really follow what you're
Speaker 6: passionate about, and you know, just give it your all.
Speaker 6: And that's that's about it. And I just I'm consistent
Speaker 6: with everything. I'm responsible, and I treat people well, and
Speaker 6: I think if you do that, you're gonna get rewarded always.
Speaker 5: Oh, Mark, we love you, Marky Mark. Now the people, well,
Speaker 5: they love you when you do this next thing.
Speaker 7: So we want you to give out high school superlatins
Speaker 7: for each era, so you know, like most likely to blank,
Speaker 7: most likely to blank for each Era four?
Speaker 5: Okay, why would you go all out? Yes, let's start
Speaker 5: with Era four. Let's go backwards. Let's start with Air four.
Speaker 6: Era four is Era four. This is my superlative for that.
Speaker 6: Era four is most likely too probably have a internal
Speaker 6: team combustion. I feel might combust on each other at
Speaker 6: some point. Well, we'll look out for that. If there
Speaker 6: are three who's my Air three people who are there?
Speaker 6: Let's let's who are they? Jordan's three are the most
Speaker 6: likely to succeed. That would be my thing because because
Speaker 6: there's so many great players newer players on there, and
Speaker 6: they're all so well rounded, so that I'd probably give
Speaker 6: them the most the ability to see yep, Ra two
Speaker 6: is going to be a ship show. Just you know,
Speaker 6: Rat two is the most likely to get in a
Speaker 6: fight after hugging ten minutes before the fight. That's gonna
Speaker 6: be my superer for them. It's that, you know, it's
Speaker 6: they get the Messy award. That's what I'm gonna gives award.
Speaker 6: And Era one is I don't even know if it's purlative,
Speaker 6: but whatever. You know, we might not win you over
Speaker 6: with our physicality at this stage, but we are damn
Speaker 6: sure we're gonna win you over with the spawn of
Speaker 6: our group. I will tell you that it was the
Speaker 6: most fun. You know, we're the most like, we're the
Speaker 6: class clowns. I think, okay, and I think I said
Speaker 6: this at the beginning on day one. We're this is
Speaker 6: gonna this doesn't get in anything away. We're either gonna
Speaker 6: shine and be the fucking cream of the crop in
Speaker 6: this house or our team will be the bad news bears.
Speaker 6: And there's no gray area. We're gonna be either the
Speaker 6: best or We're the bad news Bears. That's it, and
Speaker 6: we all like it. So that's that's my prediction. But
Speaker 6: it's it's a fun season, guys. You're gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 6: And hopefully I will say this, I got a little
Speaker 6: taste of the franchise. And you know, however, let's say
Speaker 6: I win the figure don't win, to think I want
Speaker 6: to go back in and I got a little taste
Speaker 6: of how it is, and I want another shot at
Speaker 6: the franchise. I think, just just for we'll see what
Speaker 6: happens there while I'm still healthy. Guys, well I'm still healthy.
Speaker 6: I love you, guys.
Speaker 4: Mark tell the people, well, you know what I was
Speaker 4: about to get you to Pluggins Socials. But I would
Speaker 4: not be Davine if I did not say this, because
Speaker 4: I tend to speak for the people sometime.
Speaker 2: Okay, as mister.
Speaker 4: Wee won O gez, we the people need you to
Speaker 4: get Coral. Oh yes, we the people need you to
Speaker 4: get Corals.
Speaker 6: This is a great ender. I've been talking with Kral
Speaker 6: for a while and and this is my thought process
Speaker 6: with Coral, and I don't blame her for it. You know,
Speaker 6: Coral left on such a level of weanness. I mean,
Speaker 6: she was up there, she was she was the Pample.
Speaker 6: I almost feel like in her mind she doesn't want
Speaker 6: to come back and not be able to live up
Speaker 6: to those expectations of how she left the show. And
Speaker 6: I completely that. I keep telling her it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: You could come for an hour and just give you
Speaker 6: an hour.
Speaker 2: We just want to see her.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I will keep chipping away at Coral. But
Speaker 6: you know, she would be such a an iconic bringback.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, oh my gosh. Even if she went home first.
Speaker 6: We wouldn't care exactly.
Speaker 2: We just want to see her play.
Speaker 7: But if she came out, even as a mid season
Speaker 7: like surprise, you know what I like, she just popped up.
Speaker 5: I agree, Oh, I agree? I agree.
Speaker 7: Okay, you keep working on her Mark plans. For the
Speaker 7: people who wanted to follow along on your progress or
Speaker 7: just all the exciting things that you're doing, where can
Speaker 7: they find you on social.
Speaker 6: I'm on everything at d Mark Wall so Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 6: d Mark Wall.
Speaker 5: Very very cool. Well the Godfather in the house. We
Speaker 5: appreciate you.
Speaker 7: We're excited to see you on our screens and everything
Speaker 7: that happens. Rooting for you next week since we didn't
Speaker 7: get see any lo nations and we don't know you know,
Speaker 7: what's to come or what happened. But uh yeah, and
Speaker 7: congratulations to you, sir. We're still being an icon.
Speaker 6: Thank you after all these seasons.
Speaker 5: And you said that there's no one like a fete.
Speaker 5: There truly is no one like a market law.
Speaker 6: I love you guys. Have a good season, guys.
Speaker 5: I love you, thank you, love you two. We want
Speaker 5: your next wrestling Max Mark.
Speaker 6: Just know that, oh that's happening in the spring. It's
Speaker 6: gonna be a big challenge. Eventually, you guys are both coming.
Speaker 6: It's epic. You will love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, yet love that. I think you should have
Speaker 5: to say, be a ring girl.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, bye guys.
Speaker 7: Bye bye Mark.
Speaker 3: That was a great interview from the godfather Mark. Not
Speaker 3: that we expected anything less. I love Marky Mark, so
Speaker 3: glad that he was here, so much fun day.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is already gonna be a good season.
Speaker 2: I mean he's delivering on the podcast, he's flavoring in
Speaker 2: the episodes. He didn't deliver in.
Speaker 1: That particular challenge though, you know, we all have our days.
Speaker 3: We have day for people who want to watch you
Speaker 3: deliver Day all the greatness, all the things, literally the
Speaker 3: meme queen. Where can they find you on socials?
Speaker 4: Well, they can watch me watching you on Amazon, but
Speaker 4: then they can also catch me on all social media
Speaker 4: platforms at Davon, Diane Underscore, and where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Oh a Day, We've got to get you on the
Speaker 1: show Day. It'd be so much fun.
Speaker 3: You can find me on new episodes, including one tomorrow
Speaker 3: airing live.
Speaker 1: We actually have Gary ve on.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be pretty amazing just between us, the show
Speaker 3: that I co executive executive produce and co host. It'll
Speaker 3: be on Amazon dot com slash Live. You can also
Speaker 3: go to my website.
Speaker 1: Devinsimone dot com and click links. You'll see sort of
Speaker 1: all the things there.
Speaker 3: And I'm active now officially on Instagram, TikTok, I want TikTok,
Speaker 3: and Snapchat. I thought Snapchat was just for inappropriate pictures,
Speaker 3: but no, apparently people post normal stuff on there, so really,
Speaker 3: I yes, And so come say hi. You can come
Speaker 3: say hi on the show on Amazon two. We love
Speaker 3: saying hi to challengers in the chat, but also say
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Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun, just like this season of
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