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Speaker 1: you look at and say, oh, good, we'll get right

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Speaker 1: against them. Well, we'll work on some stuff, we'll get

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Speaker 1: some guys playing time. Dude, they may be up on

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Speaker 1: you in the fourth quarter. And like I said the

429
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Speaker 1: other day, USC eighty fifth run defense in the country.

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna find it this week. Like Utah just

431
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Speaker 1: won't be able to run the ball the turnovers for us.

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Speaker 1: He will just disappear this week against the best defense

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Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve. It'll just work out. I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly how people figure that. And so the line

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Speaker 1: here is USC minus six and a half or seven,

436
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Speaker 1: and they're at home, They're in the coliseum, so home

437
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Speaker 1: field's baked in there. This is an eight on the

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Speaker 1: upset Alert meter for me. I think Utah, even without

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Speaker 1: Jesse at quarterback, has got a real shot at winning

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Speaker 1: the game. Out right, There's one more game I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about because it is a me

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Speaker 1: versus the Model special. You guys know I put out

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Speaker 1: the JP pole on Tuesday. I don't agree with everything

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Speaker 1: on that pole. TCU, for example, is twenty third. How

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking at you, Model? How are you putting

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Speaker 1: you put TCU? TCU is rated and Duke is not, Like,

447
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Speaker 1: what nonsense is that? So anyway, TCU goes to Kansas

448
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Speaker 1: State this weekend. I really like Kansas State in this spot,

449
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Speaker 1: but the model is screaming take TCU. You're getting a

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Speaker 1: glimpse of what Friday Night Lines is like. A lot

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Speaker 1: of times it's just me bickering with the model, and

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Speaker 1: it's you suggesting games that I should look at. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you were to ask me about TCU and Kansas State,

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Speaker 1: I would look at the model. I would say, oh, well, TCU,

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Speaker 1: if you get them plus six and a half has

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Speaker 1: a sixty one point six percent cover probability. According to

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Speaker 1: the model, and then commentary ensues, and I say, models

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Speaker 1: outside its mind. Not only do I think that's wrong,

459
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Speaker 1: I think Kansas State's the right side this week. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the model's ever met Avery Johnson.

461
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Speaker 1: Avery Johnson had five rushing touchdowns last week. And I

462
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463
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464
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Speaker 1: both of them this week. Avery Johnson's gonna end up

465
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466
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Speaker 1: gonna win. I think they're going to cover. It's not

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Speaker 1: And I've got several more things to get to, so

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Speaker 1: from a lot of you today on Twitter, some of

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Speaker 1: just go answer randomly later. We got some really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: is the proper way to say chapstick. Ah. That's good.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, I think I have a game figured out here.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we're about to add a best bet in

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Speaker 1: this game. We will have a best bet you know,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina plays Missouri this weekend, and I'm facing a

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Speaker 1: classic conundrum, as Mim would call it, because on one hand,

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Speaker 1: it's October and you rarely want to go against South

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Speaker 1: Carolina and October. But the problem is it may be

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Speaker 1: cought over because they got beat by Florida last week,

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Speaker 1: so maybe the script has been flipped a little bit.

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Speaker 1: South Carolina kind of seems lost at the moment. And

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Speaker 1: that's a problem because Missouri just beat down Kentucky. Now

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Speaker 1: a casual walks in the room and says, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: free money. Then if they play each other this week

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Speaker 1: in Missouri's building, mind you, it's gotta be free money.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. It seems that way. Missouri minus seven

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Speaker 1: seems that way. And I don't know, kids, I'm not

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Speaker 1: so sure. But then I dive into the game and

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Speaker 1: everything that is in front of me is screaming lay

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Speaker 1: the points with Missouri. Listen to this. Missouri sixteenth in

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Speaker 1: passyards per game this year offensively. South Carolina is one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty third defensively in passyards per game. I checked.

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Speaker 1: You can't get any worse we got. We only got

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three teams doing this thing at

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Speaker 1: the FBS level, so they couldn't be worse if they tried. Statistically,

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Speaker 1: there's an added concern if that's not already bad enough.

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Speaker 1: Brady Cook was only average last week. That's the Missouri quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He was only average. It gets even worse than that.

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. The last three wide receiver ones they faced,

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Speaker 1: these were the stat lines. Seven catches for two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty six, nine catches for one hundred and four.

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Speaker 1: There were ten catches for one hundred and sixty six.

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Speaker 1: Luther Burden, the number one receiver from Missouri, maybe better

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Speaker 1: than all of them. He's gone over one hundred and

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Speaker 1: five of his last six games, but last game he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Last game two catches for fifteen yards. So I got

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Speaker 1: a team that's rolling coming home off a beatdown of

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Speaker 1: Kentucky and the quarterback and best receiver didn't even necessarily

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Speaker 1: go off last week, and they're facing the one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty third rated pass defense in the game this Saturday.

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Speaker 1: What's the path for South Carolina? I want to know

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Speaker 1: what's the path. It can't be this simple, right well,

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Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler's the path. The quarterbacks the path Missouri's got

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Speaker 1: the seventy third rated pass defense in the country, so

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Speaker 1: he could find a ton of success. Jaden Daniels did

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Speaker 1: lsu came up there last week or a couple weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty nine through the air, three passing touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: so it's there to be had. However, in all caps, however,

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Speaker 1: road Rattler has been kind of Sketchy's a rattler on

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Speaker 1: one interception, his road stat line one touchdown, three interceptions.

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Speaker 1: So just because something has been a certain way doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean it will be. I know the rule we stated

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Speaker 1: on the show all the time. So is road Rattler

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden gonna shine this Saturday? Missouri's defense

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Speaker 1: one hundred and third and explosive plays allowed. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: plays are there to be had. Xavier Leggett for South

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Speaker 1: Carolina ten receptions of thirty yards or more, six receptions

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Speaker 1: of forty yards and more. Both of those are tied

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Speaker 1: for number one in FBS. So there are some indicators

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Speaker 1: for South Carolina, many more indicators from Missouri. But my

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Speaker 1: point is, did you notice that everything I just read

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Speaker 1: screams offense, offense, offense. There's the best bet here, but

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Speaker 1: it's not out on the side like I'm gonna lean

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Speaker 1: Missouri to win. Let's take a look at the model.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Colin, I'm gonna lean Missouri to win,

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Speaker 1: and I'll even lean Missouri minus the points. But I

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Speaker 1: don't care about that because the the Pate State model

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Speaker 1: just has Missouri winning by eight. So we think the

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Speaker 1: number is pretty right. I don't think the total's right.

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Speaker 1: The totals at sixty and a half right now, and

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Speaker 1: so we are taking Missouri South Carolina over sixty and

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Speaker 1: a half. And that is a Rama Noodle Express best bet.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even making you wait until the end of

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Speaker 1: the show. We are adding that one right now and

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Speaker 1: I will repeat it at the end of the show.

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Speaker 1: So Missouri to win, Missouri to cover, eh, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: but that over and remember the one other total bet

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Speaker 1: that we hit with Missouri was a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: The LSU line was way off. We think this line's

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Speaker 1: way off as well. Don't be betting irresponsible amounts of

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Speaker 1: money on that just because I sound confident, same unit

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Speaker 1: size as always, no immunity, Be professional and be disciplined

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Speaker 1: while you're at it. Hold on a second, all right,

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Speaker 1: I got Colin is telling me. All right, Colin is

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Speaker 1: telling me. We have some correspondents. We got a video

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Speaker 1: from Cublic. That's what you're telling Okay, we'll roll whatever

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Speaker 1: you have. Go ahead, Colin fellow.

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Speaker 2: Page, say along current students, employees, people, friends of the program, boosters,

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Speaker 1: This is the seventh airport that.

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Speaker 2: I've been in the last eleven days, and Josh asked

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Speaker 2: me to send this to you all as an apology

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Speaker 2: for not having been on the show the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: As I just returned from El Paso, I'd like to

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Speaker 2: Josh not being able to figure out how to get

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Speaker 2: me into the schedule and get me on the show today,

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Speaker 2: and after hearing about the gross sum that other guests

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Speaker 2: are getting on other shows, we have a lot to reconsider. Hopefully,

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Speaker 2: we'll see you soon. Thank you, and God blessed.

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Speaker 1: Who's does Cublic think he is? All of a sudden

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Speaker 1: the caucasidy to send that video in And by the way,

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Speaker 1: how humble, how selfless of us to play that on

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Speaker 1: our airwaves. You give a guy one show on SEC

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Speaker 1: network and all of a sudden, the head is barely

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Speaker 1: big enough to even fit on the screen. This is

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Speaker 1: on Roman Harper as much as anyone Roman Harper sits

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Speaker 1: across from him every Monday night. No one else can

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Speaker 1: do anything about Cole Kublic. At this point, Harper's got

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Speaker 1: to reel him in a little bit. And this is

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Speaker 1: also on Pat mcafeel a little bit. You pay Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers a few million dollars here or there to appear

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Speaker 1: on your show, and now you've got Cole kublicks of

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Speaker 1: the world demanding similar treatment. My friendship I always thought

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Speaker 1: was paving enough for Cublic to come on the show,

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Speaker 1: But I guess not. We'll see how next week goes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Balls are in his court apparently, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Stay tuned. You know, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of contenders out there, a lot of contending teams that

638
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Speaker 1: you don't even know are contenders. I'm about to blow

639
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: your mind at Some of you are hardcore college football fans,

640
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: and I'm about to blow your mind on this stuff.

641
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Think about the teams that you are having on your

642
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: radar right now, and then think about the teams you've

643
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Speaker 1: written off. Okay, Colin, here's your endpoint for the video.

644
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: We got some sleeper contenders entering Week eight, and some

645
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Speaker 1: of them I don't think you're even aware of. Take

646
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve for example. So Oklahoma is the only

647
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: undefeated team in the Big Twelve. But what's the assumption.

648
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: The assumption is, all right, Texas has got one loss

649
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, so there are a one loss Big twelve team.

650
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Speaker 1: They'll make it back to Dallas and we'll see them

651
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: play for a conference championship. Oh you Texas, Round two

652
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: the end. But Texas is one of five one loss

653
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: teams in the Big twelve. Do you realize what's happening

654
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: out there right now? Do you realize Kansas State's got

655
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: two losses, only one of them is a conference loss.

656
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Now they've still got to play Texas. They've got Avery

657
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Johnson heating up, maybe ready to redefine their season. That

658
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: team that Kansas eight. Team's got real scalable potential. I

659
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: think because of what's happening at the quarterback position. Oklahoma State,

660
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: guys has one conference loss. Do you realize Oklahoma State

661
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: is still in this thing? They've got, oh you coming

662
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: in there in a few weeks now. You may say, oh,

663
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: that sucks for them, No it doesn't. That's how they

664
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Speaker 1: define their season like, that's how they make their season.

665
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: They play, aside from Oklahoma, four of the bottom five

666
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Speaker 1: teams in the Big twelve, and they're at West Virginia

667
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: this week. Speaking of West Virginia, guess how many conference

668
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Speaker 1: losses they have? Who know? They got one conference loss

669
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Speaker 1: and they also face four of the five bottom teams

670
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Speaker 1: in the Big twelve and they also play Oklahoma before

671
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: the season's over. And we we only have one conference loss.

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00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: Hoops to my talking about Iowa State that you didn't

673
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: know that, did you? Iowa State's four and three? True enough.

674
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Speaker 1: One of the losses is at Ohio, but we don't

675
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Speaker 1: play in the MAC. One of the law losses is

676
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: to Iowa but we don't play in the Big ten.

677
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: And good for us for hanging thirteen on them. Hardly

678
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: anyone else has Iowa State has already beaten Oklahoma State.

679
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: They've lost to Oklahoma, got Oklahoma out of the way.

680
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: The offense is, i'm gonna say, improving, too rapidly improving.

681
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: And they got Texas at home second to last week

682
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: of the regular season before they go to Kansas State.

683
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: So our destiny, as far as I can tell, is

684
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Speaker 1: still in our hands. There are four teams aside from

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Speaker 1: Texas in the Big twelve that are still very much

686
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Speaker 1: alive and no one's talking about them. And maybe we've

687
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: been guilty a little bit of that on this show,

688
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: but no more, because that's what this Thursday has been

689
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Speaker 1: dedicated to. In the SEC, LSU is the most glaring

690
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: example to me of a team that's been written off

691
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: and you don't need to be writing them off yet

692
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: the model hasn't written them off. Jpapole's got them top fifteen.

693
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: You can scoff at that all you want to, but

694
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: they they're not done yet. They've got one conference loss

695
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: to control their own destiny. Not completely sure how the

696
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: tiebreaker thing works if they if they beat Bama and

697
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: then Bama's a one loss and LSU's and one law,

698
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, but I will say this.

699
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: They played their best defensive game of the season last week,

700
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: and they've got Army and then a bye, and then

701
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: they rounded out with Bama, Florida and Texas A and

702
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: M three of the final four games. It's all there.

703
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: It's still all there for LSU, Missouri and Florida are

704
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: also right there. Missouri is a one loss team. Missouri

705
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: has Georgia right after Georgia plays Florida. Missouri is off

706
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: the week that Georgia plays Florida, so it couldn't be

707
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: teed up any better. And there was a program out there,

708
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: I cannot remember which one it was. Jesse helped me here.

709
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: There was a there was a college football show. They

710
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Speaker 1: do a year round thing they don't do the off season,

711
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: and there was some dude dresses kind of kind of homeless,

712
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: and he said Missouri was the sleeper team in the

713
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Speaker 1: SEC this year and nationally too. I think that's what

714
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: he said. We'll have stats and info and research again

715
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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, I know, it seemed to recall he

716
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: took a lot of flat for it, a whole lot

717
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: of flat. Anyway, I digress Missouri very much alive. Florida

718
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: is too. The difference is Florida has a ridiculous remaining schedule.

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Speaker 1: Florida's got one conference loss, but they have well it's

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Speaker 1: on the screen right here, Roe, I'll just look at that.

721
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Speaker 1: They got Georgia coming up next weekend. Then they got

722
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Speaker 1: Arkansas at home. And the reason I spotlight the Arkansas

723
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Speaker 1: games caused it sandwich between Georgia and LSU and they

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Speaker 1: go to LSU and to Missouri back to back before

725
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Speaker 1: finishing with Florida State. That is gross. Look so technically, yeah,

726
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: they are still alive. I don't know exactly how much

727
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: damage they can do the rest of the way. Here's

728
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: a good pop quiz for you, paper pop quiz. Trademark

729
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: that term. Please paper pop quiz. I want you to

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Speaker 1: do me a favor in name the undefeated teams in

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Speaker 1: the ACC Jeopardy music five four, three to one? Did

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Speaker 1: you get Florida State? Good? Did you get North Carolina?

733
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Speaker 1: Most of you did good? How many of you got Duke?

734
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Speaker 1: How many of you realize Duke is still undefeated? They

735
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: play FSU this Saturday, undefeated in conference play, mind you?

736
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Speaker 1: They play at FSU this Saturday. Two of the three

737
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: remaining undefeateds are playing this Saturday. Louisville and North Carolina

738
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: are also on the future schedule for Duke. Riley Leonard

739
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: looks like he's about to return. Can they afford another loss,

740
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: even maybe and still make the conference championship game? I

741
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: don't know. But again, Mike Elko, one of the great

742
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: stats out there right now is he is one and

743
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: a half seasons in at Duke and still has not

744
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: lost a game by more than one possession at Duke.

745
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: Last but not Lee. Virginia Tech is still in this

746
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: thing too. That one's out of left field. Virginia Tech's

747
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: three and four. How is this possible? Well, one of

748
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: the losses was to Purdue, one of them was at Rutgers,

749
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Speaker 1: and one of them was at Marshall And none of

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Speaker 1: those are conference games. Their one conference loss is at

751
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Florida State. They drubbed Wake last week, much to the

752
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: chagrin of the Romannutle Express. They beat Pitt a couple

753
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Now they're on a bye week and

754
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: they've got q's, They got Louisville, Boston College, n C

755
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: State in Virginia. Where's the Shore loss? There isn't one there.

756
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: And while I'm at it, do or Oregon State, the

757
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: Duke of the West, if you will. Oregon State still

758
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: only got one conference loss out in the Pac twelve.

759
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: They're six and one. They lost to Washington State. That's

760
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: why a lot of folks wrote them off. But they

761
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: still have the big boys. They still play Washington, they

762
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: still play Oregon. So all of these teams that people

763
00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: are circling Georgia, Oklahoma, Florida State rightfully, so overlook the

764
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: fact that there are a ton of one lost teams

765
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: right now that have been written off that should not

766
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: be written off. Yet. There is so much football left

767
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: to be played. This is week eight. We're not even

768
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: close to November yet, and November is famously the longest

769
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: month of the Year's like thirty seven weeks long. So

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch this because some dominoes are about

771
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: to start falling in some of the big dominoes. If

772
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Speaker 1: and when they fall, we'll bring some of the second

773
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: tier dominoes back into the picture. And my whole point

774
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: will be they never should have been out of the picture.

775
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Speaker 1: Let's continue. We got a good pace on tonight's show,

776
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Speaker 1: which is good because otherwise I would fall asleep, Because

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Speaker 1: I mean, the fine folks at Delta did as much

778
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: as they could this morning, but I couldn't really sleep

779
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: on the way home. I will take a sit from

780
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Speaker 1: the chalice. As Colin puts up a question from someone

781
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: who hails from Montgomery, Alabama. We have some staff from Montgomery.

782
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Clint Clint hit us up with I think one of

783
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: the best questions that's been asked for me this entire year.

784
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: He said, we know you choose how ratings over rankings,

785
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: but if you were to do rankings, what would your

786
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: metric be? Thank you, Clint, literally the first person who's

787
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: asked me this. When I put out the japepoule on Tuesday,

788
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: everyone wants to argue about it, and some people just

789
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: don't understand what it is. And then there are other

790
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: people who do understand what it is, but they say, well,

791
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: why would you do it this way? Why don't you

792
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: just rank teams? Well, if Texas loses to Oklahoma, but

793
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Texas is still above Oklahoma, what good does this do me?

794
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Number one? Don't look at it. I'm not forcing you

795
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: to number two. There is a purpose behind doing that.

796
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: It's just future facing instead of living strictly in the

797
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: review mirror. It's not merit based well, Clint's asking, Okay,

798
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: if you did rankings, what would you base them on?

799
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: Or put another way, if I were a playoff committee member,

800
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: how would I put teams in the order I put

801
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: them in. I would combine merit or results on the

802
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: field and properly calibrated strength the schedule. That's what I

803
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: would do. So you're talking to someone here that has

804
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: Florida State around ten or eleven right now in his

805
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: power rating. Florida State would be top five team for me.

806
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: You're talking to someone in his power rating that has

807
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Texas above ou. There is not a world when I

808
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: rank teams where Oklahoma's not ahead of Texas. Of course

809
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: they'd be ahead of Texas. The reason is because the

810
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: outcome on the field is what matters the most. That's

811
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: what competition is, That's what sports are. That's always been

812
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: my stance. It's just that anyone who thinks otherwise when

813
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: I put out that power rating on Tuesday doesn't understand

814
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Washington would be ahead of Oregon if

815
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: I were ranking teams. I am not an AP voter,

816
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: don't have much interest in being one. But if I did,

817
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: I can safely assure you it would look a whole

818
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: lot different than that power rating on Tuesday. So the

819
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: other thing to keep in mind when I talk about

820
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: strength of schedule is I am not a strength of

821
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: schedule guy that goes on your wins and losses. So

822
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: when I say properly calibrated strength of schedule. This is

823
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: where I've always advocated maybe for Las Vegas to have

824
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: a role in the playoff selection process, but not in

825
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: the way that some people suggest. See when I say that,

826
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: Like I was on a show one time and I said,

827
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: I think Vegas should have a role in selecting the

828
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: playoff field, and some guy thought, I meant, your record

829
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: against the spread should be what warrants your inclusion, which

830
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: of course is crazy. But there are some other people

831
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: who think a Vegas power rating kind of like the

832
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: jpeepole like we do on Tuesday. They think those should

833
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: be the ratings. This is where Nick Saban was dead wrong.

834
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: At the end of last season, he started doing the

835
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: whole Well, if Vegas says no more than two or

836
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: three teams would be favored over us, why aren't we

837
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: in the top four. You're not in the top four

838
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: because you lost games, So it doesn't matter what a

839
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: power rating says in a merit based system, and I

840
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: am I'm all for that. The one thing I think

841
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: I would change is the way you define strength of schedule,

842
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: and for that, I would bring Vegas in. For that,

843
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: I would bring someone in who understands there are some

844
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: five and three teams out there that would probably be

845
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: favored over an undefeated team on a neutral field. Now

846
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter except to properly define your strength of schedule.

847
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: If you played that five and three team, you shouldn't

848
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: automatically be getting a boost because you play a garbage

849
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: six and oh team and you beat them and they're

850
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: overly inflated, and all of a sudden you're getting credit

851
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: for beating a top ten team. Well, they were never

852
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: a top ten team. It's just that you are what

853
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: your record says you are. A crowd thinks they're a

854
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: top ten team. I want folks who understand how good

855
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: teams really are and how to properly power rate them,

856
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: to define strength of schedule, not ratings, not conflating ratings

857
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: with rankings. I just want you to be able to

858
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: properly define how tough my schedule has been and not

859
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: be sitting here having these stupid conversations at the end

860
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: of the year that sound like this, Well, we thought

861
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: that win in week three was good, but now in retrospect,

862
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: it's not nearly as good. No, any system worth its

863
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: salt underunderstands how to properly assignate value of wins and

864
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: losses pretty much when they happened, with only minor fluctuations hereafter.

865
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: There are some times where it's obvious your power rating

866
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: on a team was just wrong early in the season.

867
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes you were too high, sometimes you were too low.

868
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: So you go back and retroactively increase or decrease the

869
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: value of a win or loss. But by and large,

870
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: you should not have wild fluctuations. I beat a team

871
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: that was four and OHO in week four. They go

872
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: on to lose games after I beat them. I'm going

873
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: to deduct points from your win there. Well, how do

874
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: you know that me playing them didn't have a detrimental

875
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: impact the rest of the year, and that's why they

876
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: lost those games. You can't know that smart people can though,

877
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: so s already go on that diet try. But that's

878
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: the only place that I would include Vegas. Otherwise, power

879
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: ratings have no business in determining a playoff field. I

880
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: know that, and I do power ratings every week. Ranking

881
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 1: teams should be about a blend of merit, which means

882
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: valuing the outcome on the field, especially if you've played

883
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: each other, and blending that with properly defined strength to schedule.

884
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: Next up, this is what the Late Kick Extra podcast

885
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: sounds like when we do it in the off season.

886
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of blending that concept right into the show tonight.

887
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: I think we had a couple of questions. I told

888
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Colin just put it on the same slider here. So

889
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: Mark hit me up and said, during the once upoont

890
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: A Saturday tour travels, what is a typical schedule from

891
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: airport to hotel stadium airport or do you get to

892
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: see parts of campus, the towns, the restaurants, et cetera.

893
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: And then another question from Jacob in State College said,

894
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: can you remind us why you like noon kickoffs because

895
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: every part of me wants a Top seven matchup not

896
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: to be at noon. Let me answer the second question. First,

897
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: I was you, Jacob, I hated early kickoffs. I only

898
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: wanted primetime kickoffs. Then I started going to games every

899
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: week and I realized, if we're going to do a

900
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: show on Sunday that claims to react to all of

901
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: college football the day before. It really helps not to

902
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: have to be flying home on Sunday morning. So this Saturday,

903
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: we got a game in Columbus, Ohio that kicks off

904
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: at noon. I'm supposed to be back in Nashville by

905
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: seven o'clock that night. If everything goes according to plan,

906
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: of course, knock on desk. You know how much that

907
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: helps for prep the next day. You know how much

908
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: it helps to sleep in your own bed the same

909
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: night that you were at a game a few hours earlier.

910
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: So that's the long and short of it for me.

911
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: If I was a fan, like like, if I were

912
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: just going to games like I did back in the

913
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: day like you guys are. Oh, I love the primetime

914
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: game because I don't have anything to do professionally the

915
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: next day. I just got to be at church on

916
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: time the next morning. That's all I gotta do. And

917
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: you don't even have to have slept to get to

918
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: church on time. I have tested that theory, and trust me,

919
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to have slept. But man, you you

920
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: better have enough time carved out to get your show

921
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: ready the next night. Now, As for the schedule, boy,

922
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: it fluctuates wildly. Like this week, I've got I've got

923
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: a guest joining me. Oh why not? Canal's coming with

924
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: me to the game this weekend. D Annuel Canal, some

925
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: of you may know him on the street as Danny

926
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: is going to be up there at the game. So

927
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: we've been on a heater and we've seen five games

928
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: come down to essentially the final play or final possession.

929
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: And if we see thirty eight to thirteen this weekend,

930
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: I swear to you I will place one hundred percent

931
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: of the blame on the shoulders of Daniel Knell, who

932
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: has no problem shouldering blame by the way He's done

933
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: it his whole life. And so I think he's already

934
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: up there. I am flying to Columbus tomorrow, so this

935
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: will be a quick twenty four hour turnaround. We have

936
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: a full day of work. I like to work on Friday.

937
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Get to the gym, gym to airport, airport to city,

938
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: get checked into a hotel, do Friday night lines. Hopefully,

939
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: get out and get something to eat that's hit or miss.

940
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: Hopefully get over to the building and see either staffs

941
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: of the home team's coaching staff or go to the

942
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: visiting team's hotel. Sometimes I do both, and that's week

943
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: to week as well. Saturday, we're usually at the building

944
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: four hours before kickoff. We do hits on CBS Sports HQ,

945
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: and then it is it's really just counting down to kickoff,

946
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: walk around the building, you know, meet up with people.

947
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: A lot of times I'll go back out into tailgates

948
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: because like a dozen of you have hit me up

949
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: that week and invited me to tailgates. And if I'm

950
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: at the Texas State Fair, I'll just go play flip

951
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: a chick as you see on the screen right now,

952
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: and I'll win a little foam chicken head. You know,

953
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: you're not afforded that opportunity every week, but Hoops amongst

954
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: us hasn't flipped a rubber chicken in a rotating pot

955
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: with a sledgehammer and one a foam chicken head when

956
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: presented with the opportunity like sue me, okay, and then

957
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: you down some funnel cake at the end. Yep, that's

958
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: in a neutral site. But in the home building, I

959
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: just go tailgate like this Saturday, I'll end up out

960
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: in the parking lot of Ohio Stadium, probably over there

961
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: near the total garage, if you guys know the area,

962
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: and or maybe in East lot. Maybe got friends in

963
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: both areas, and there is saw the food at tailgates,

964
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: especially the closer to the stadium, because look, those are

965
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: the folks who can afford those corporate lots. And while

966
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: I am not a huge proponent of the corporatization of

967
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: the tailgating scene, there is one fact, and that is

968
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: if you're being invited to one of those corporate area tailgates,

969
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: the food is incredible. I'm not saying the food is

970
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: not incredible half a mile from the stadium, but I

971
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: can't get that far away because I have duties to

972
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: attend to. So we'll get out of there game ends.

973
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: I'll go to a postgame press conference. We will then

974
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: immediately do live rapid reaction on the field with our

975
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: folks in Fort Lauderdale or Stanford, Connecticut on CBS Sports HQB.

976
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: We'll also send some things to New York for Inside

977
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: College Football. Then we will get right out of there,

978
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: hopefully car service. Usually just uber to the airport, fly home,

979
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: and then get ready to do the show the next night.

980
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: There is very little sleep. Hopefully a gym visit but

981
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: usually not. Usually Saturday is just a rest day, if

982
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: you will. And that's the schedule. Now, if it's not

983
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: clear by listening to that, why I prefer noon kickoffs.

984
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what else will tell you. Let's keep

985
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: it moving, nice, leisurely paced, nice, nice, brisk, but leisurely pace.

986
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: Here we have a question that would be an utter

987
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: doomsday scenario for well a lot of people. I grew

988
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: up with Edmund, Oklahoma. They're hitting us up from Edmund.

989
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: They said, could you see a scenario where the SEC

990
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: misses the playoff? Could you see a scenario where OU

991
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: and Texas get in? Yeah? I could see the second one,

992
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: because yeah, I could see the first one. Do you

993
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: do you hear the gnashing of teeth at just the

994
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: suggestion of that the SEC can't be out of the playoff.

995
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: That's like, that's like mister Aster on the Titanic. This

996
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: ship can't sink. The SEC can't miss the playoff. Oh,

997
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: she's made of iron, sir, I assure you she can. Well,

998
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: in this case, here's the scenario. Here's how it would happen.

999
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: The way I figure it, we're likely to have either

1000
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: a one loss or undefeated team from the ACC from

1001
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, from the Big ten, from the PAC twelve.

1002
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: That is likely at this point, So how do we

1003
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: keep the sc Excuse me, how do you guys keep

1004
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: the SEC out of this thing? Because I am a

1005
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: notorious SEC homer. If you don't believe me, read the

1006
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: comment section or check out the live chat. Here's the

1007
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: most plausible scenario, as producer Jesse and I could see

1008
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: it earlier today. You need a two loss SEC champion

1009
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: and then just hope that there are better candidates in

1010
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: front of them. So if Georgia just wins out, this

1011
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: is a moot point, they'll be in. But let's say

1012
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: Bama loses to Tennessee or LSU, and at that point

1013
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: you're just you're getting a two loss team from the West,

1014
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: no matter what, if it's Bama, if it's LSU, whoever

1015
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: it is. But then they go to Atlanta and they win.

1016
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: There is the committee taking a two loss Alabama as

1017
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: the SEC champ. Are they taking two loss LSU as

1018
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: the SEC champ? Are they taking one loss non SEC

1019
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: champion Georgia that had a weaker schedule this year. Maybe

1020
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: it heavily depends on the rest of the field, But

1021
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: The difference is this year you may have enough viable,

1022
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: undefeated or one lost teams there that you look at

1023
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: it and if you peel you get your thumbnail under

1024
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: the you peel a little sec sticker off the resume

1025
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: and just look at the resume. It's not good enough.

1026
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: It's like fifth or sixth best, And then you know

1027
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: what happens. Of course, then you have people whining saying,

1028
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: why couldn't we have the twelve team playoff one year earlier?

1029
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: And you know my thoughts on that. But I did

1030
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: have someone brave enough to ask me, do you think

1031
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: that this would be the perfect year for the twelve

1032
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: team playoff? No? I think it's the perfect year for

1033
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: the four team playoff because the playoffs started, Like, do

1034
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: you realize does anyone realize what Ohio State and Penn

1035
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: State's going to be like this Saturday? Do you have

1036
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: any idea we have an elimination game in Tuscaloosa this Saturday.

1037
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: I wish I could have had you up in Seattle

1038
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: last week on the field to witness Oregon versus Washington.

1039
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: There is no world where those places in those games

1040
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: feel that consequential. If you know, it's just it's just

1041
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: for seeding. Here. We've got a safety net down here,

1042
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: so if we fall, we fall, we'll get right back up.

1043
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: Somebody's falling this weekend and they're not getting back up.

1044
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: It's not a life alert commercial. You don't just press

1045
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: a button and get help. You don't just have the

1046
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: twelve team playoff there. It's help. I've fallen and I

1047
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: can't get up, and sorry, only got room for four

1048
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: of you here. Stay there and just think about this

1049
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: and we'll pull you up for next season. This is

1050
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: not worth debating. We're going to a twelve team format

1051
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: next year. I know that. Whether I like it or not,

1052
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: I know that. But in the meantime, let me enjoy

1053
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: the last remaining October in November where the playoff actually

1054
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: starts in October and stretches into November, even if people

1055
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: don't realize it for what it is right in front

1056
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: of him. Let's do Ramenudal Express best bets and let's

1057
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: get out of here. Uh I. I had the unfortunate

1058
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: task last night. I've never experienced this before. We had

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Speaker 1: Sam Houston State on the Romanudle Express and it may

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Speaker 1: not have been the most professional look in the world,

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Speaker 1: but I was up in New York doing halftime in

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Speaker 1: postgame coverage and studio, and we had the game on

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports Network. We had the game, so I'm watching

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Speaker 1: it there on the desk and we're waiting to go

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Speaker 1: live postgame and Sam Houston had opportunities but did not

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Speaker 1: win and cover. So we have already toted a loss

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Speaker 1: on the Romanudle Express and this pains me, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna draw the X on the piece of paper. As

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Speaker 1: Memal would say, minor setback for a major comeback. And

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Speaker 1: Meman knew her way around Romanudl Express packet. I can

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Speaker 1: assure you, Wake Forest, here are our best bets. If

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Speaker 1: you're new to the show, these are our best bets,

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Speaker 1: Wake Forest right at a pick, we got Wisconsin minus

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Speaker 1: two and a half and Miami plus four. Those are

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Speaker 1: the games we were already on. We just added another

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Speaker 1: best bet about twenty minutes ago, and it is South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Missouri over fifty nine and a half. It's widely available

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Speaker 1: out there at fifty nine and a half. So listen,

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Speaker 1: there's one shop out there that has something better than

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Speaker 1: fifty nine and a half. I just don't like to

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Speaker 1: do business with that shop. And so I'm not handing

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Speaker 1: it out, but fifty nine and a half is really

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Speaker 1: good number. We think it's gonna be well into the

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Speaker 1: mid to upper sixties. So wake Wisconsin, Miami, South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Missouri over. Remember and tell your family, and tell your friends,

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Speaker 1: and tell your neighbors. Make sure you're following on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at late Kick Josh, because when we get to Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio tomorrow night, I'll get checked into a hotel and

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Speaker 1: we will go live on Instagram and Friday Night Lines

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Speaker 1: is where you want to be. We are going to

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Speaker 1: add several games. We'll probably add between four and six

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Speaker 1: more games tomorrow night. So the Rominulu Express is only

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Speaker 1: five teams deep right now. We'll probably hit double digits.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be tuned in tomorrow night. I give

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Speaker 1: you heads up about an hour before we go live

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't sneak up on you at Late Kick, Josh.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're there all right. I'm gonna go sleep

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Speaker 1: for about twelve hours now. Appreciate you guys hanging in

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Speaker 1: there for producer Jesse Direct to Colin, I'm Josh Baate.

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Speaker 1: Take care, have a great start to your weekend, Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the games, and God bless