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Speaker 1: we bring in Brad Spielberger. Knows a little bit about

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Speaker 1: everything about this game. But I love that you. You

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Speaker 1: As far as one week they don't know what the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big deal. Obviously, it applies to every team,

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Speaker 2: so that you know, relatively speaking, they're all in the

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Speaker 2: guy you didn't think you would be in. It sounds small,

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Speaker 2: but one or two move can change the entire offseason.

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Speaker 2: So it's been great. It's been huge for those teams.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is a big time obviously, NFL combine a

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Speaker 1: lot of storylines at the top. The most important is

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Speaker 1: if you understand my question, Yeah, which is odd I think,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the cool thing will be who is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know we're gonna hearing a lot.

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Speaker 4: With real quick is sticking with the draft there.

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Speaker 5: One of the things I've thought of when you when

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Speaker 1: Brian Spielberger right there for Pro Football Focus center in

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Speaker 1: on this Indianapolis Colts draft. Upcoming draft obviously so many

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Speaker 3: All right, Bret?

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Speaker 1: You know some crazy action happens at a lot of

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Speaker 3: How many to say we're going to be a player.

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Speaker 5: Now, one last thing here with the Colts free agent

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Speaker 4: What ultimately do.

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Speaker 1: For Pro Football Focus, as Brad Spielberger right there, you're

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Speaker 3: This is for every NFL team.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Sutherland five eleven, two h two out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Brad Brad Spielberger. Thanks so much for thank you.

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Speaker 6: It's our pleasure right now on Radio Row Combine twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four here in Indianapolis, to be joined now by

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Speaker 6: along with Casey Valley. I'm Matt Taylor, Jeremy a pleasure,

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for some weason us in here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: What are you tracking so far?

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Speaker 6: I'm sure your your battery on your phone is dwindling

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Speaker 6: as the storylines continue to pop off here.

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Speaker 4: So what what's most intriguing thus far here?

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Speaker 6: But as it relates to to your job and your profession,

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, well, we've seen the wide receiver deals go

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Speaker 4: This is about you. What is free agency like for you?

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Speaker 6: You'll win when the bell goes off on March thirteenth,

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Speaker 4: Where are you and what is life like for you

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Speaker 3: So it's really just on the phone, texting and calling,

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Speaker 3: You know, they have Vegas residencies there. You know, is

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Speaker 3: but I got Vegas on my radar with them.

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Speaker 6: All right, fair enough, man, Always appreciate you. Stopping by

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Speaker 6: the month of March is always exciting. And the best

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Speaker 6: part is you watch some college basketball, some college basketball

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Speaker 6: tournaments on ESPN. You see the scroll, you got all

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Speaker 6: the NFL free agency news and it's.

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Speaker 4: All per Jerry Fowler.

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Speaker 6: You know, the Vikings agree to sow and so, and

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Speaker 6: that's where it all comes from. The busiest man here

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Speaker 6: at the combine, Jeremy, Thanks so much again for squeezing usin.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy the rest of your stay and I hope you

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Speaker 6: can do it again soon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.