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Speaker 1: new episode of the Name damnae Check Football Program. We're

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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast would stop wearing pants if

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Speaker 1: society allowed it. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by room filled with some heroes, Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rose. It all what's up? Boys? Hey Dan,

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Speaker 1: the old three man, we've the old three students? What

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Speaker 1: do that, all right. Today is Monday September excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Today we're gonna talk about um all the latest news

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Speaker 1: into Greg Rosehal's fourth annual QB Index Extravaganza. Fourth annual

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Speaker 1: players they won't even make the team. There. There were

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Speaker 1: some starters, there were some not. I mean you could

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Speaker 1: say that about Tom Brady too against the Giants, and

430
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Speaker 1: he struggled, like I'm just saying, there was as much

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Speaker 1: pressure in a preseason performance, his roster spot and everything

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Speaker 1: that had been going on as possible, and he looked

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Speaker 1: a lot better than you would have expected. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say under on the Gabbett was at five and a

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Speaker 1: half five starts. He said, well, I said, I said five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta give the number. West. You gave the number,

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Speaker 1: all right, so you said it at what I say five.

438
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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go crazy here. I'm gonna say

439
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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks on that roster will start at least four games.

440
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see all of them because the

441
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Speaker 1: thing and somebody brought it up on Twitter West over

442
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Speaker 1: the weekend. Let's not forget mid all this controversy around

443
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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, that the guy can't play anymore unless somehow

444
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Speaker 1: he gets fixed, and judging by the way he looks

445
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Speaker 1: in one magical drive in the end of August, accepted, Uh,

446
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Speaker 1: there's a good chance he'll get on the field. He'll

447
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Speaker 1: stick up the joint playing Gabbert come out let's calm down.

448
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Speaker 1: He stinks too, and then ponder who is a former starter.

449
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Speaker 1: They'll probably turn to him at some point too. I

450
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Speaker 1: think it's all part of a very long season for

451
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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and San Francisco. Well, there aren't many quarterbacks

452
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Speaker 1: that could succeed with this with the talent around them.

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Speaker 1: But I do we we give Chip Kelly a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit. Why not give him a little time with

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Speaker 1: chip Colin Kaepernick. Uh, let's move on and talk a

456
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Speaker 1: crazy situation here? Uh in l a with the Rams. Uh.

457
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, who was the first overall pick in the

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Speaker 1: two thousand sixty in NFL draft, in an era where

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Speaker 1: any first round pick, for the most part starts, even

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, found a way to start Week one. Jared

461
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Speaker 1: Goff went one overall. That's a lock to start Week one.

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Speaker 1: Not only is he not starting against the forty Niners

463
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Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, he won't even be in uniform.

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Speaker 1: He'll be in street clothes as the emergency third string

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Speaker 1: backup Chris Wesley. How do we get here? I would

466
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Speaker 1: direct everyone to read Mike Silver's latest long form on

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Speaker 1: the education of quarterbacks in today's NFL. It is one

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Speaker 1: of the best pieces I've read all year in any

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Speaker 1: football article, and a lot of it goes into how

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Speaker 1: college quarterback is so easy to play because of the

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Speaker 1: spread offenses that it's hard to judge them. And I

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Speaker 1: think you see golf struggles pre snap and post snap

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Speaker 1: in the in the in the preseason two different areas

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Speaker 1: that that really the post snap is more processing, the

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Speaker 1: pre snap is more preparation, and he struggles with both

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Speaker 1: of them. I don't think a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: surprised from that, considering his college offense, but the Rams

478
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Speaker 1: have to be disappointed that this guy is gonna be

479
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Speaker 1: one of the most expensive scout team quarterbacks in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be running the scout team in Rams practices wild.

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy, And part of me is like, oh, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Rams on some level deserve a little bit of

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Speaker 1: credit here. They know he's not ready and the resisted

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Speaker 1: resisting the pressure just because he's the first pick to

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Speaker 1: make him play football in Week one. But then part

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Speaker 1: of me is like, whoa wait a second, you don't

487
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Speaker 1: even trust them to be the backup quarterback. That's almost

488
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Speaker 1: you're almost putting it in his head that he's he's

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Speaker 1: a mess. Right now. Here's the weird part. Jeff Fisher

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Speaker 1: tells Steve Wish NFL Media Steve Wish that he won't

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Speaker 1: play in week one, he'll be a third quarterback, but

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Speaker 1: in week two it'll probably be Sean Mannion's week. What's

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Speaker 1: going to change in a week that that makes no

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Speaker 1: sense to me? Well, Fisher's comments on quarterbacks to the media,

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Speaker 1: to me are meaningless, and he just says things to

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Speaker 1: say things because coaches have to say things. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think he gives away almost anything of what he's

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Speaker 1: really feeling. I'm not gonna you never know, God, just

499
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Speaker 1: because he struggles right now. We've talked about it, Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning. We're in worse situations, I would say, at

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Speaker 1: this point in their rookie year, and it got even

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Speaker 1: worse when they got put into game. So you don't

503
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Speaker 1: want to play a guy if he's clearly not ready.

504
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Speaker 1: And he could totally turn it around. But I don't

505
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Speaker 1: want to hear any spin about Key. I told you guys,

506
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Speaker 1: the Keenum was the starter the whole time. That's Jeff Fishers.

507
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Speaker 1: Give me a break. It is a disappointment. There's you know,

508
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Speaker 1: it's fine, it's not the end of the world. But

509
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Speaker 1: he gave up all those draft picks just to go

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Speaker 1: with case Keenum. He said, well, I told you guys,

511
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Speaker 1: that's the starter of the whole time. I am really

512
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Speaker 1: excited to watch Tuesday night, the finale of Hard Knocks,

513
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Speaker 1: with a special eye on how this last week played

514
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Speaker 1: out with Golf, because they must have really been spooked

515
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Speaker 1: by something that's happened in these final weeks to think

516
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Speaker 1: that they need to take what to me seems like

517
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Speaker 1: a drastic measure in his progress. I think he's gonna

518
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Speaker 1: start a lot of games this year over under game.

519
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Speaker 1: I'll set it at seven and a half. The guy

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Speaker 1: was opening out of uniform in week one will start

521
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Speaker 1: more than half their games. He's not ready. Fisher is

522
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Speaker 1: already saying that he might bump up to back Cup.

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Speaker 1: You can lose a couple of games. I think watched

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Speaker 1: the fourth preseason game and tell me if you believe that.

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Speaker 1: I believe it has a lot to do with what

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Speaker 1: the record is. You believe that the Rams coaching staff

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Speaker 1: can get Jerk Golf ready to play in two months, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the question. I think that's where you can't

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Speaker 1: really criticize golf as much as criticize the whole operation,

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Speaker 1: because if you ask what team do you not want

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Speaker 1: to get drafted by? If you're a young quarterback looking

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Speaker 1: to develop, I would say these rams would have to

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Speaker 1: be near the top of the list. That's fair. I

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Speaker 1: can't disagree with that. Alright, guys, our final bit of

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Speaker 1: action here in the news is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: odds and odd sent ends odds ends. Everybody lacks some

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Speaker 1: odds and ends. Hit it right at the end there,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get going. I like that, all right.

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Speaker 1: Rob Nikovitch facing a four games suspension, uh for testing

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Speaker 1: positive for a band substance. More trouble for the Patriots

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Speaker 1: who just they can't stop cheating, Greg Right, I just

542
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Speaker 1: wanted I knew you would, just this is the throne

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Speaker 1: of ease. He's already out with an injury. He just

544
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Speaker 1: spends his suspension on the sidelines in the trainer's room.

545
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: I'll do anything to get ahead. You're hired, Bill Belichick

546
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Speaker 1: and other Patriots in those Eagle excuse me, other Patriots dudes.

547
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Speaker 1: Eric row, Philip Philadelphia's bust second round pick cornerback, has

548
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Speaker 1: been traded for offensive line and Josh Klein inourth round pick? Greg,

549
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Speaker 1: what's that about New England in a scramble to get

550
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Speaker 1: their roster Setkin quarterback group. But I'm always very wary

551
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Speaker 1: of a guy that's done that bad in one place.

552
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Speaker 1: Why are they going to be that much better in

553
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Speaker 1: New England? Did he stink that bad? I don't know.

554
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Speaker 1: They they thought he was. He was fifth on their

555
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Speaker 1: depth chart. That's just that, Howie Roseman, Uh, let me

556
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Speaker 1: get rid of everybody. Chip Kelly brought in mentality. Chicago

557
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Speaker 1: Bears linebacker Pernell McPhee, one of their best players last season,

558
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Speaker 1: facing the prospect of starting the season on the publists.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he is on the publist. Correct. That is

560
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Speaker 1: a major injury for the Bears. That looked like the

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Speaker 1: strength of their team, those outside linebackers, and he's their

562
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Speaker 1: best player. Mark Sanchez cut by the Broncos one of

563
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Speaker 1: the probably had to be the lowest moment of his career.

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Speaker 1: Uh not a county the butt fumble, signs with the

565
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. He will now back up Dak Prescott West. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll never see him play this year. Can we

567
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Speaker 1: turn this up a little bit? Just one here? It's

568
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Speaker 1: not quite sweet Georgia Brown. Life isn't so bad though

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Speaker 1: for Mark Sanchez. If you think about it, you get

570
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Speaker 1: cut by the defending two world champions, you end up

571
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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys. He already had a suite at Jerry

572
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Speaker 1: World to watch USC the day that he was released.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they can't talk about Oh we didn't,

574
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Speaker 1: we didn't talk to him early. How's he got a

575
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Speaker 1: suite there that night? And you're also you made a

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Speaker 1: point in a right up he'll be starting on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's all a scheme for that. The Pittsburgh

578
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Steelers have lost Bud Dupree, who has moved to UH

579
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Speaker 1: injured reverse reserve. The linebacker had missed all of the

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Speaker 1: preseason with a issue with his core muscle, a terror

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Speaker 1: in that area. How big a loss is that, Wes, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're not sure. He was even better than James Harrison.

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Speaker 1: He was probably gonna start, though, and James Harrison and

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Speaker 1: uh in Jarvis Jones. I can't say it's a huge

585
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Speaker 1: loss because these young Pittsburgh linebackers haven't been what they're

586
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: cracked up to be. The Jets wiped away two sins

587
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Speaker 1: of the Glacier era cutting tight end Jason Morrow and

588
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: waving H. D. Milner a first round pick. Milner was

589
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Speaker 1: supposed to replace Rivas after they traded him to the Bucks.

590
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: A Marrow Uh, not being able to stick on a team,

591
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: but no tight ends tells you a lot about Jason Merrow,

592
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Speaker 1: who's known as soft. He subsequently was picked up by

593
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Speaker 1: the Titans, making him one of West's favorite players. Well,

594
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: the Titans don't add soft players. Have you finally given

595
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: up on D. Millner? You're gonna follow him to your

596
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: next the next team the Hill there as of like

597
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I was he couldn't stay on the field.

598
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: The guy's body betrayed him. It's all over. The speaking

599
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: of all over, Justin Gilbert, another huge bust cornerback of

600
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, was traded to the Steelers for a

601
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick, and everybody again, everybody all excited. Oh

602
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Speaker 1: the Browns that keeps spinning magic getting draft picks for Bus. Well,

603
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: he still took bus. So let's not get too excited

604
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Speaker 1: about what you did. Let's just be fair. I like

605
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Speaker 1: Adedy kin Koala had some texts from the Browns staff

606
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Speaker 1: that essentially was laughing about Gilbert's chances of returning around

607
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Speaker 1: in pits. He's been one of the most maligned young

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Speaker 1: players I've heard in a long time. Yeah, in a

609
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: very long time. What happens if he becomes an All

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Speaker 1: Pro with the Steelers? As marks at him and Mingo

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Speaker 1: will be together on the team. This seems like a

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Speaker 1: bad thing. Darren McFadden, who fell uh and broke his

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Speaker 1: elbow a few months back, is not sure he'll he'll

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Speaker 1: ever be able to fully extend his arm again. Oh yeah,

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00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: that's that's a problem. I like extending my arm. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do. This is what happens when you get old

617
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: and it just don't work right anymore. And finally, this

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Speaker 1: line from Jerry Jones on Tony Romo, who will remain

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Speaker 1: on the active roster. You don't have to spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time going over and kind of circumcising the mosquito, irishman,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? To circumcise the mosquito? I have

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Speaker 1: no idea, all right, Greg, I don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Okay, this means let's not go into too

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Speaker 1: much detail. Pick this thing apart, just take it for what.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to give a real answer like you,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to see the mosquitoes. Is that basically

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Speaker 1: the thing is saying, you're gonna need tiny tweezers to

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Speaker 1: circumcise it. Don't go in that far for the closest.

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Speaker 1: It's such a small issue. Let's not make a big

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Speaker 1: deal out of it. Um much like the mosquitoes, penis,

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Speaker 1: don't look. I would just say, don't look at the mosquitoes.

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Speaker 1: The circumcision thing, that's a little gross to me. I

633
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: think it's a southernism. I think it's a well known

634
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: phrase throughout the South, and that wraps odds and ends,

635
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: and I like that. I like that little before the

636
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Speaker 1: show was you weren't in the highest spirits. But when

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Speaker 1: you hear that song, that's a little bounce. It makes

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're on the dock of TYPEE again,

639
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Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah, it reminds me of Sweet Georgia Brown,

640
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: the old Harlem Globe Traylors theme song. Yeah. We didn't

641
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: have the rights to that, Yeah, but we got the

642
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: generic knockoffs very close to We got like the Washington

643
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: General's version very good. I like that. All right, that's

644
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right, here we go,

645
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Greg going on and on about this, He's like, what

646
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: are we going to talk about on the podcast? This

647
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: is one of my big things I write every year.

648
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: I want the glory give it to me. This is

649
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: all not true. I literally suggested not doing this on

650
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Speaker 1: the podcast. You pushed for it. This. Let's our listeners

651
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Speaker 1: into the mind of Dan Hansas all right. That just

652
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: let us into the mind of Greg Ross and you

653
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Speaker 1: all right, you want to be in the mind of

654
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Speaker 1: Dan hands this. I love talking about qbs. Love it.

655
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: You said, Oh I didn't love talking about division by

656
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: division previews for seven months. No, but I love talking

657
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks in all for them. So can you can

658
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: you give us? Greg has Hug you let out a

659
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: deep side. Um, First of all, an overview of what

660
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Speaker 1: the QB indexes is and if if people are new

661
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: to the website or to this podcast, what they can expect. Well,

662
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I'll watch all the quarterbacks that can basically every game

663
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: every week, and we'll be ranking them based on how

664
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Speaker 1: they're performing in this season alone. But for this entry

665
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Speaker 1: level preseason addition, it's a little bit of a different question.

666
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Speaker 1: What quarterback do I want running my team this year?

667
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Speaker 1: Just answering that question ranking the quarterbacks? Who you do

668
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Speaker 1: who do you like? For two thousand sixty? That's fair,

669
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: and I uh, I think it's a great exercise. But

670
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Speaker 1: you said that it's tough here. We're back, We're back

671
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Speaker 1: in Tybee. I like it. It's kind of like the Mr.

672
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Belvedere theme a little bit. I don't know how this

673
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: song got associated with Tybee. I mean, why are we

674
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Speaker 1: back here for the quarterback? I don't know. I don't know.

675
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: I have no idea how that happened. But but you

676
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: said it's hard to do it before the season starts,

677
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: and that's what we've done here. Well, people I know

678
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: will look at this list and there's some players, some

679
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: young players, where I'm essentially projecting. I'm saying, who do

680
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: I want this season? Who do I really trust? Who

681
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: do I think is going to have a great season.

682
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: So some guys who maybe haven't done it before are

683
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: getting treated and ranked like they have ahead of some

684
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: veterans because I'm excited about them. All right, So you

685
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Speaker 1: don't have the rookies on here for the simple fact

686
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Speaker 1: that they haven't played yet. So you're not gonna go uh,

687
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: you're not gonna go crazy. But then again. But then again,

688
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: you got Jimmy Garoppolo on this list. How does Jimmy

689
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Speaker 1: get there? He's played games, He's played three preseason games.

690
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Speaker 1: You're right, I mean the rookies. Trevor Simeon, what's he

691
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: doing there? We've seen Simeon in the preseason. There's not

692
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: much difference between them and the rookies. You're right, But

693
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Speaker 1: I feel like Dax should be on this. All right,

694
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Speaker 1: let's not get caught up with it. That's just that's

695
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: your decision, your editorial decision. I feel like it's a

696
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: fair criticism. It does seem a little this thing hasn't

697
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: been published yet, so you're still working on it. I

698
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: would put Simon and Prescott on the same level. All right.

699
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: Let's start at the top of the list, though, and

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Speaker 1: these are the you haven't broken into tears. It looks

701
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Speaker 1: like one through seven. How would you describe these first

702
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: seven names? Starting with Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Tom Brady,

703
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, and Phil Rivers. What

704
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Speaker 1: is that seven? What do they represent? Well, they're all handsome, Um,

705
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: they're they're what you look for in a quarter. I mean,

706
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: they're the best of the best. To me, they all

707
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: could put up an m v P season and it

708
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't totally shock you. Do you think Ben Roethlisberger's handsome? No,

709
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Speaker 1: But I just was something I said, Uh, Aaron Rodgers

710
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Speaker 1: is number one on this list for me because when

711
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Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, to me, this week's

712
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Speaker 1: ranking especially, he's not just about obviously what you did

713
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Speaker 1: last year. I could rerun my end of the year rankings.

714
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Speaker 1: It's about what we've seen over the last decade, and

715
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Speaker 1: to me, Aaron Rodgers has been the best quarterback of

716
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: the decade. He's still in his prime, he's got plenty

717
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: of talent around him, so there's no reason for me

718
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: really to think that he can't be the best quarterback.

719
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Speaker 1: Once again, there had to have been these first five

720
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Speaker 1: guys on the list, just trying to enter your mindset.

721
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Speaker 1: Not much separation, because I would have Russell Wilson in

722
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Speaker 1: a dog fight with Aaron Rodgers for the top spot

723
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Speaker 1: on this list. There's no quarterback I really trust in

724
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Speaker 1: the NFL more than Russell Wilson at this stage, even

725
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Speaker 1: more than Roethlisberger. Trust is a good word because I

726
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: think when you say trust Russell Wilson makes more sense

727
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: on a game to game level than Rob. He's my

728
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Speaker 1: m V pick this year. Russell Wilson wouldn't surprise wouldn't

729
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Speaker 1: surprise me at all. In fact, I think I might

730
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Speaker 1: have picked him um in the NFL dot Com analysts

731
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Speaker 1: predictions that we had to do. Yeah, all five of

732
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Speaker 1: those guys. To me that though, that's the top level.

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Speaker 1: And I threw Breezing Rivers in there because to me,

734
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Speaker 1: they're they're set apart from the rest as well. And

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Speaker 1: then you have eight and nine in their on their

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Speaker 1: Own Little Island Andrew Luck and Carson Palmer, followed by

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Speaker 1: on their Own Little Island ten and eleven, and this

738
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Speaker 1: is work. It gets really interesting to me, Jamis Winston

739
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Speaker 1: and Marcus Mariota. There are a lot of solid names

740
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Speaker 1: beneath these two guys. What have they done to be

741
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Speaker 1: this high on the list, especially if we were going

742
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Speaker 1: to talk about trust? Are we ready to trust them

743
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Speaker 1: at this level? I think going into their second season,

744
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: based on what they showed as rookies in a little

745
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: bit preseason and what we've heard about them this offseason,

746
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Speaker 1: that we should expect them to be much better this

747
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Speaker 1: season and if you look at their rookie years compared

748
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Speaker 1: to other great quarterbacks rookie years, or even let's let's

749
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Speaker 1: dial it back to last year, even Blake Bortles and

750
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr and Teddy Bridgewater. Think of them after their

751
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: first season, and Bridgewater didn't make that leap, But think

752
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: of Bordles in car after the rookie season and the

753
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: type of leap that they made. Winston and Mariotta were

754
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: at such a higher level already than those two guys

755
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: were as rookies, and I think they've both They're gonna

756
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: do it in different ways, but I think they both

757
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: have everything you would want out of a quarterback to

758
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Speaker 1: be a top shelf type of quarterback, to make a

759
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson or Andrew luck type second leap. Those guys

760
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: were on the borderline of the top ten quarterback in

761
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Speaker 1: their second year. Well, you already know how I feel

762
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: about Mariota. I don't think I need to go into

763
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: more detail on that one. I'm kind of flum mixed

764
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Speaker 1: about Carson Palmer, who finished number two on your season

765
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Speaker 1: ending rankings, and now you've dropped him all the way

766
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Speaker 1: to number nine out of the top tier. Okay, tell

767
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Speaker 1: me which quarterbacks ahead of him that you would rather

768
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Speaker 1: have this year rather than Carson Palmer. I would definitely

769
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Speaker 1: put him over Philip Rivers. I would also put Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck over Philip Rivers. Okay, so you found one name, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you've got them in a totally different tier.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Is it the handwringing over the

773
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Speaker 1: playoff performance, the worries about that, the that the Harold

774
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Speaker 1: Goodwin led offense in the preseason hasn't produced anything. It's

775
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of the playoffs, it's a little

776
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: bit um of his age, and it's a lot of

777
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: bit of his a lot of his career. To me,

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and Drew Brees have been better players than

779
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer basically every season for the last ten seasons

780
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Speaker 1: except for last year. And I'm gonna ultimately trust them

781
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: more than I trust Palmer. Doesn't Palmer have the best

782
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: record in the NFL since he landed with Bruce arians

783
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, he's right, he had a good

784
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: in a different quarterback under area. Absolutely, he got hurt

785
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: the first time around. He was great good that year too.

786
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could I could see Carson Palmer, some

787
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: of those chances that he's taken get intercepted and people

788
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: be a little down on him. I trust those other

789
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Speaker 1: guys more. All right, let's look now at the mid tier.

790
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: Now we're like kind of right in the middle, flirting

791
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: with that old Dalton line. I'm redoing the tears as

792
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: we're talking. So this is good exercise. Okay, good, I'm

793
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Speaker 1: glad that we can do your work for you during

794
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: this part of the show. It's good. Number twelve. You

795
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Speaker 1: start with Andy Dalton, so he is the best of

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Speaker 1: the not the best of the good. Is that a

797
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: fair way to simplify it? Or yeah? This is kind

798
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Speaker 1: of the middle group of of good quarterbacks. Okay, So

799
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Speaker 1: you got Andy Dalton, followed by Matt Ryan, followed by

800
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning at number fifteen, which is right in the

801
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Speaker 1: middle here on this list, Blake Bortles, Alex Smith, Joe

802
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Speaker 1: Flacco at seventeen, Derek Carr at eighteen, and just because

803
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Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta show respect for a guy with

804
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: tantalizing skill set, Matthew Stafford up at nineteen. So that's

805
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: that middle tier. West your thoughts, there's not a lot

806
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: to quibble with here. I would probably have Blake Bortles

807
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: and Alex Smith both higher than Eli Manning. Yeah, I

808
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: think I heard all the you know, all the people

809
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: that have been criticized for being a little negative about

810
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: Eli may pointed this out. What what is um? What

811
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Speaker 1: is this exercise? Who you want for this season? Yeah?

812
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Speaker 1: This season? Only West. Didn't you just say that you

813
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: think he could leave the league in touchdowns this year? Yeah?

814
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: But I always said that's driven almost purely by O'Dell Beckham.

815
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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that the production is production. If

816
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Speaker 1: you if you put Blake Bortles in the Giants offense,

817
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Speaker 1: I think you throw. That's not well, that's the argument

818
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Speaker 1: against Carson Palmer. For what it's worth. You put Philip

819
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Speaker 1: Rivers and Drew Brees or any of those guys on

820
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals team, I think they would be as good

821
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Speaker 1: or I don't. I don't agree with it. Right, It's

822
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Speaker 1: hard to do better than what Carson Palmer did last year.

823
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Speaker 1: This this tier was by far the hardest part of

824
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: the exercise for me. I and I've shuffled them around.

825
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: Borders and Smith were a little higher earlier. I have

826
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Speaker 1: a hard time with the whole Bordles car Now Bridgewaters

827
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Speaker 1: out of that mix for this season, but he would

828
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Speaker 1: have been there. Alex Alex Smith, who I think is

829
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Speaker 1: going to have a great year. And Matt Ryan. I

830
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Speaker 1: don't know what to do with Matt Ryan. I feel

831
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: like West and I are the last two people on

832
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan Island. I still like him better than Dalton.

833
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: People don't know what to do with him anymore. That

834
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: was a weird last season he had. And wouldn't I don't.

835
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Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little over um influenced by

836
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: the Jim Bob cooer ratter. But man Matthew Stafford looked good.

837
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: One Coonter took over and looked at this preseason and

838
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: what it wouldn't surprise me at all? Stafford put up

839
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: a big numbers fantasy type of season this year. Something

840
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: anything would ever surprise you with Matthew Stafford. All Right,

841
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: I found the Dalton line of your list. It's this

842
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: next tire YEA through twenty three is Kirk Cousins, which

843
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: is a little high. I thought you'd drop them a

844
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: little lower. Ryan Tannehill at twenty one, Tyrod Taylor twenty two,

845
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Speaker 1: and Jay Cutler at three. This is the Dalton line

846
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: right around here. Yeah, you could put it after it.

847
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: But the Cousins Cousins is the new Dalton. I guess

848
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: this is the make or break tier. Yeah, thanks, I

849
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: can that can make that the little heading. Yeah, Kirk

850
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: Cousins on a one year contract, Tyle Tyrod Taylor. We'll

851
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: see if the Bills pick up his options. The Bears

852
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: have no more guaranteed money. Dude, J Cutler and Ryan Tannehill.

853
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: How he does in his first season with Gaye is

854
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: going to determine his future in Miami. Really, it really

855
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: is that you're compared to your contemporaries, because these guys

856
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: aren't They're not terrible starting quarterbacks, and yet they're buried

857
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: here in the twenties. There's reasons to like all four

858
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: of those, right, there's reasons none of them. It would

859
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: surprise you if they're Pro Bowl quarterbacks. Here color two

860
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: of the biggest coach killers of twenty one century. In

861
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: this two Dan loves coach killers? What why would I

862
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: love coach killers? Uh? Michael Bennett had nice things to

863
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: say about Ryan Tannehill. By the way, he doesn't have

864
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: nice things to say about anyone. Wait, what did what

865
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: did he have this to say. Uh, they both went

866
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: to Texas A and M together. Um, he was a

867
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: senior Bennett when Tannehill was a freshman wide receiver. Tannehill

868
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: was the best athlete at our school, better than von Miller,

869
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: better than me, My brother Martella's Bennett would argue that,

870
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: but Tannehill was one of the best athletes I've ever seen.

871
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: He ran a four four, He could do every type

872
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: of dunk. He was just cool. He was a smooth,

873
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: cool guy. There's if I had to pick one quarterback

874
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: to describe as uncool in the NFL, it might be right,

875
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: but it points out it's a little underrated. Like we've

876
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: we've seen dunking. No, we've seen quarterbacks go to wide receiver.

877
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: It's a little underrated to to be a decent wide

878
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: receiver at the college level. Like playing right, Ryan Tannehill

879
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: was getting absent, was someone and switched to playing quarterback

880
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: and just be like, Okay, yeah, I'm a great quarterback too. Well,

881
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: well cheap the word great. I mean he got picked

882
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: in the number twelve overall. Get enough? Who gets thrown U? Yeah,

883
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: who gets thrown under the Ryan Towne Hill bus next?

884
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: So many bodies strewn across the roadway. Good question. Now

885
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: the next tier, this is the guys that you don't

886
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 1: really believe in, Greg, That's how I read into this.

887
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: This might really be the Dalton mine, although it's very low.

888
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: That's not the number twenty four, my boy, Ryan Fitzpatrick,

889
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, brock Oswiler twenty seven, Jimmy Garoppolo, Trevor Simeon

890
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: r G three thirty. Now it's getting dark. Blaine Gabbert

891
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: thirty one, Case Keenum. Yeah, this will be broken up

892
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: a little bit into tears because it's it's unfair to

893
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: put put Fitzpatrick in the same tier. He should be

894
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: in the next one. At the bottom of the night,

895
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: I would much rather have Fitzpatrick is my field general

896
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: than Jay Cutler. Interesting, don't really Yes, we do this

897
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: every year where everybody over rats j Cutler. Well, the

898
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: difference is now overrating him according to you is ranking

899
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: him twenty three in the league. So, I mean even

900
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: his ratings not too high at this, but I'm sure

901
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: that will go a long way towards his five win seasons.

902
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: I would move yeah, I would move Fits up. You

903
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: could quibble, what do you want him a head of

904
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: Cutler or not, but he should be in that group

905
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: and then you could start like the real dregs with

906
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford. You don't have to put Ryan that low.

907
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's disrespectful. But I think you have

908
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: to look at and and granted, he's in a great

909
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: situation and he'll probably put up some numbers this year,

910
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: but you have to look at what he's done throughout

911
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: his career. I get it. But isn't this just about

912
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: this season? Yeah? It is. Maybe he found his spot

913
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have a similar year next year, which

914
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: would be solid, not great. Seems to be. He seems

915
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: to have a lot of confidence. He does he seems

916
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: to think, and who knows that everybody's confident? But are

917
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: you sure? I am? I am. I'll tell you what

918
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm honest about about the Jets. I'm really starting to

919
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: feel bullish about this season. Have you looked at the

920
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: first half schedule? This is the thing. At first, I

921
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: was very upset about that schedule, but then I started

922
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: to think to myself, Wait, but if the Jets are good,

923
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna be okay. They're gonna hold their head above

924
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: the water if they can somehow get three or four

925
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: wins out of that first six games against five playoff teams,

926
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: and last year in the Bills team that swept them.

927
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: They're in good shape going into the back stretch of

928
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: the season. And I'm just excited. I've been I've been

929
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: working doing this podcast long enough where I've been involved

930
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: with horrible jet teams eight and eight type jets. But

931
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: you're always feeling a little optimistic going into Week one,

932
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: as are hey. By the way, just about every fan,

933
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: including me and and everyone else, the Lions fans are

934
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: cracking me up with their excitement. They're bumped. Calvin Johnson

935
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: leaves in their playoff team, alright, and then uh yeah,

936
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: as you said, Dak, let's throw back in there where

937
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: there where would he be? Cannot put him ahead of Ryan, No,

938
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: he would be in the bottom five. I mean, let's see,

939
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see Dak Prescott in some games that

940
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: matters exactly. I agree, they actually should, all they should.

941
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: All the guys who have never played uh in the NFL.

942
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: Garoppolo has played, by the way, play played a half. Oh,

943
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 1: come on, let's stop with that half. What garbage timing

944
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: is the Chiefs. He's just the seventh year. Yeah all right,

945
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: Well anyway, this will be up when on the website

946
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, Wednesday morning, so uh, make sure you checked

947
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: out nfl dot com slash QB index. That feels like

948
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: a good vanity of r L. Is that going to

949
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: be it? I'll ask for it. It's been in the past, alright, Greg,

950
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: with a little victory your laugh for Greg, Let's get

951
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: some whistled Greg Rostal. This is a very meaningful piece

952
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: that he writes every week. So this is his little celebration.

953
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing a dance. Yeah. Oh and you can't see

954
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: it right now. But exciting news for the podcast. Our

955
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: preview show on Thursday, it goes up late Thursday, early Friday,

956
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: depending where you are, will be on YouTube this year,

957
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: the entire show on YouTube on NFL now and also

958
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: our Sunday night recap show, so two of our three

959
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: shows will be on video in full. Myron, it's somebody

960
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: on Twitter? Is that? If I hear you Dan say

961
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: my rown. I'm always tempted to turn off the podcast.

962
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: Turn it off, good reddance, clown, turn it off. We can't.

963
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: We can't talk about Doug Moron again. Yeah, you think

964
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: about that, poor old Douggie down in Jack's trapped that

965
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: that guy doesn't tell you, you tell him? Yeah, let

966
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: us know, watch watch the videos, let us know what

967
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: you think. That's passed it around to your friends. Hit

968
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: refresh a lot. Maybe that's where I'll get my unflattering

969
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: Chris Westling screenshot. Oh you're still worried about that? Because

970
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: I want revenger. I thought it was a fine picture

971
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: of you myself. I wanted to say thanks, by the

972
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: way to all the people that listened way back to

973
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: the iTunes challenge and left those comments, because I've been

974
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: watching that and it has been going up. You know,

975
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: we broke a thousand, it's been going It does help

976
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: us a lot. Our rankings have been good. So if

977
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: you have not left a common force, do it. It

978
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: helps all right? That's fair? And one and one last

979
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: thing before we got I should touch us because we're

980
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: talking quarterbacks. Over on the subreddit, a reader or listener Stega,

981
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: who uses Kevin Patra as his avatar, offered up um

982
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: the heroes each of us what our QB comparisons are

983
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: based on their personalities and traits. On the podcastlous you

984
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: guys worried about this? This is asking for it. This

985
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: is asking for it a little bit, but I feel

986
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: like we should see what people have to say. Greg

987
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Oh this person does it. Yeah. Not exactly

988
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: the figure you would expect out of a boss, but

989
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: efficient and always on the nose with his analysis. Loves

990
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans and total phony. Mark J. Cutler Moody polarized. Yeah,

991
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: this is why I'm saying. I thought you were going

992
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: to ask us to do it, and even then I

993
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: was worried. I was just gonna give everyone Aaron Rodgers.

994
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna have to tell Mark what was said

995
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: about it. Moody polarizing, but has the respect of most

996
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: of his teammates. Dan Is his Martellis Bennett with his

997
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: Fantasy Corner narrative uh, and is known for taking the

998
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: second half of the season off. Okay, that was not

999
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: that wasn't too nice West. Philip Rivers not bad. Wes

1000
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: underappreciated Fiery. Maybe your comedy bits like when you do

1001
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: the your puns and stuff, but otherwise totally appreciated. Fiery

1002
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: doesn't fact on from anyone, could retire at any moment

1003
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: and disappear back into the South. I see no connection

1004
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: between Phil Rivers. Really, I actually think this one's good

1005
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: other than the children. The children thing is a problem. Look,

1006
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: you want to be Philip Rivers. That guy, he's competitive,

1007
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Everyone likes him. He's fiery. Who's not fiery and competitive

1008
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Give me Tom Brady, Sam Bradford, uh

1009
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: Dan Andy Dalton fitting great one surrounded by talent that

1010
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: hides his deficiencies like that. He doesn't really give much

1011
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: input on Fantasy. Well, there's enough honking during the Fantasy podcast.

1012
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't get anything anyway. Doesn't take criticism well, right,

1013
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: stand with Wes's photo incident Dalton with J. J. Watts,

1014
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Red Rider BB we ll me just say, I don't

1015
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: take criticism well, I brought up the photo incident. I

1016
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: took it well. I brought it up, we talked about it.

1017
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't think he took it was It wasn't criticism.

1018
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: That's a circular argument that it was supposed to picture

1019
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: in which I thought you looked good. No, I'll have

1020
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: my vengeance. Connor or Geno Smith has shown potential, but

1021
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: you honestly never know where his spitfire takes are going

1022
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: to go. Much like a ride on the Gino Coaster

1023
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: both live in New Jersey and haunted matches Connor, Connor

1024
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: haunted by ghosts, Geno, haunted by memories of I K Well.

1025
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: I can make a prediction here. This seat Tagger guy

1026
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: is going to be dead to Connor or went forward

1027
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: and finally, perhaps curiously, Kevin Patra. Tom Brady keeps a

1028
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: journal of slights that fuel him to build his glorious

1029
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: Podkayan produces the majority of the content on NFL dot Com,

1030
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: but leaves the flashy long form articles to the other heroes.

1031
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: Does tom Brady leave the flashy Super Bowl rings to

1032
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks? I don't get that one. I mean

1033
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: that's up for the guy has Patrick's face? Is his amaton?

1034
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh would that be great if we uncovered that? That

1035
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: would be amazing If this is Patra in disguise working

1036
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: under a pseudonym se Tega. That actually is the first

1037
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: comment on the thing. Um, all right, that was interesting, Yeah,

1038
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: that was good. Say is it worse to have a

1039
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: bad QB or not have one at all? Well, you're

1040
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: saying you want to be a QB. I'm just wondering

1041
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: what people think about me. Who who am I? Well?

1042
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe see Tega slash Kevin Patrick will help you out.

1043
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: I'll give you a Patrick's phone number and you could

1044
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: get it from him. You can be you can be

1045
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: like Brian Hoyer. Patrick back up to Jake Cutler. Patrick

1046
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: didn't really write this article because the guy spelled Connor

1047
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: or his name wrong. That's okay, that's to throw you

1048
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: off the center. That is wildy like that. All right,

1049
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: that's it for today's show. Like I said, we got

1050
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot more company this week, starting tomorrow with our

1051
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: special special feature, uh supplemental podcast Go get my Lunch.

1052
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh how exciting is that? So until then, this is

1053
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Dan Hansens signing up Bar the Mailman, the Boss and

1054
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: the Irishman behind the Glass. Still Wednesday,