1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Move the Sticks DJ 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Bucky joined by our good friend Jim Naggy, the executive 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: director of the Reese's Senior Bowl, has been on with 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: us a bunch a good friend for gosh, a couple 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: of decades now, Nags, how you doing, Bud, I'm good. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Good to be on you guys. Yeah, we feel like 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: we've we've all known each other a long time. I 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: mean we've talked about on the show before. Buck and 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: I go back to when when he was a player 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: and I was a peon interns. So we all go 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: a way back. And now you've got fancy helmets and 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: footballs behind you. I mean, look at how far we've 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: come here. This is big time. Uh what hey, Jim, 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited. You've got your your watch list has come out, 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: your Senior Bowl watch list, which is really it's uh, 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: anybody that's interested in the draft. It's a year round 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: thing now, it's just not something people start paying attention 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: to once the college season ends or the NFL season ends. 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: It's a good list to kind of put your toe 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: in the water. A little bit and start looking forward 22 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: to what next year's draft is gonna look like. Uh, 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, there's we can get go a lot of 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: different ways. We're talking about the quarterbacks, we can talk 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: about you know, some of the top rated players you're 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: trying to get to this game. But I thought we 27 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: could take a little different approach and as we kick 28 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: off the college season, maybe identify some of these teams 29 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: that are a little under the radar um that, as 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: you and your staff have identified, have a lot of talent. 31 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: Is that is that something you guys have noticed over 32 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: the years when you kind of you see these watch lists, 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: this watch list come together and it's a little bit 34 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: of a forecast for maybe some surprises in the college season. Yeah. Absolutely, 35 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: you guys know this. I mean, the more NFL talent 36 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: you have on a team, you should win games, right, 37 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: So I mean usually materializes that way. And there's there's 38 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: a number of teams on this year's list that that 39 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: might surprise people. Uh, you know Kentucky with ten, I 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: think Stanford's got six. You know, it's talking to their 41 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: staff out there, I mean they're really excited about the 42 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: football team they're bringing back. So um NC State I 43 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: think nine um their way up there. So with you know, 44 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: Devin Learry being kind of the headliner, I think most 45 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: people that follow the draft know all about the quarterback 46 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: dvn Leary by now, but they've got a number of 47 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: other good players. So yeah, I think looking at the 48 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: watch list can kind of tell you kind of how 49 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: the Seas much ship out, you know, and thinking about 50 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: that because it pains me the n CEC has so 51 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: many guys on the watch list. Talk a little bit 52 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: about Larry. Had a chance to talk to him this summer, 53 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: but what is it about him to just cult your eye? Yeah, 54 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I got a chance to see 55 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: Devon at the Mannicamp this summer. I know, you guys 56 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: go to a lot of that stuff too out there 57 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: on the West Coast, and having the Mannicamp kind of 58 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: in our backyard and Thibodeaux, it's always a great exposure. 59 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: And he threw it better down there than than maybe 60 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: I expect it. Um. You know, that's why it's dangerous 61 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: sometimes having expectations on these guys. Um. But you know, 62 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: people always talk about guys can spin it right. It's 63 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of become a cliche term with quarterbacks. But Devin 64 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: Learry of all the guys at that camp in terms 65 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: that just like being able to just spin a tight ball. Man, 66 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: he throws a pretty ball, catchable ball. So uh played 67 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: a lot of football there. Um has broken a bunch 68 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: of records again in at a school that's produced Philip 69 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Rivers and Russell Wilson and and players of that oak 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: so Um, Yeah, I think we're excited to see those guys. 71 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a scout living right in their backyard there, 72 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: uh in the in the Triangle area, So we're gonna 73 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: see those guys played quite a bit. Yeah. First of all, 74 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon is very offended that you do not attack 75 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: him onto the end of the NC state quarterback list there, 76 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come. Uh. One of the other teams on 77 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: there I thought was fascinating, is you know, like a 78 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: s m U. It's not a you know, a powerhouse program. Um, 79 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: and they've got five guys on your list, so uh, 80 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: you know that could be a team that you're talking 81 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: about who's gonna maybe crash the party. Who are some 82 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: of these spoilers that are out there that could be 83 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: a dangerous game. It looks like SMUs got some dudes. Yeah, 84 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: you look just in staying that stay in that conference, 85 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: staying the American from last year, and I think we 86 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: ended up with six or seven Cincinnati guys in the game. 87 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Brian Cook, who went in the third round I think 88 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs was another guy that was gonna come 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: but got injured. So I mean again a year ago 90 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: this time they had I think they had ten or eleven. Um. Yeah, SMU, 91 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: they've they've produced some good players for our game. You 92 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: look at you just look at last year with a 93 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: guy like Danny Gray. We've had a great preseason out 94 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: there in San Francisco at the forty Niners third round pick, 95 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Grant Calsa Terra at the tight end. UM. And this 96 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: year they've got a guy just keeping it at the 97 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: skill player position, Racie Rice the receiver. Um. You know 98 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: they've they've cranked out a bunch of good offensive skill 99 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: talent there and uh Rice is gonna be the next guy. 100 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: Really strong, good with the ball in his hands, um 101 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: and can run. I think the common denominator with with 102 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: what they've done at s m U, regardless of who 103 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: the head coach has been, is they've added good speed 104 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: on the perimeter um, and that's carrying over. These guys 105 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: are playing at the next level, so we're excited to 106 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: see Racio this ball. You know, Snny Dikes did a 107 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: really good job building up SMU, but now he's a 108 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: tc UN. I noticed that TCU has a bunch of players. 109 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: There's who's something the standout instead of coach. Yeah, I 110 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: probably start with Dylan Horton. Uh, their edge player. You know, Um, 111 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: you're talking about underrated players. It's kind of hard to 112 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: know right now, just because I kind of people ask 113 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: me who's underrated going into this process, and it's hard 114 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: to gage unless you see a lot on social media 115 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: over the summer, on the internet over the summer, um. 116 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: But I haven't seen a lot about Dylan Horton. And 117 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: he's a guy that, uh, we really like. I think 118 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be a Day two guy. Uh. 119 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: We had eight guys from that edge crew from last 120 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: year's game, you know, starting Fromain Johnson, Arnold Evi, Ketty 121 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: Boy in my fett. So last year was getting a 122 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: great group with that edge class. I think Dylan Horton 123 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: um will be in that Day two mixes a top 124 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: one player when it's all said and done, and then 125 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: they've you know, they've got the corners Noah Daniels and 126 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: and Hodges, Tomlinson. UM, they've got a center Steve a 127 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: Vila UM center guard. So another you know, early day 128 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: three guy right now is gonna be in the mix. 129 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Is one of those top interior guys. So uh yeah, 130 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: more talent back for the horn Frocks. Yeah, we're talking 131 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: about teams that maybe people aren't expecting, um that have 132 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys on this list. One that's an 133 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: obvious one. You you expect they're gonna have a lot 134 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: of guys. That's Alabama, UM, a boatload of guys. So 135 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: we we kind of know who the front line guys are. 136 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: I think most of our audience does next. But every 137 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: year you get a program like in Alabama or an 138 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: l s U, there's always that kind of one year 139 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: starter that that late developer, somebody who maybe has been 140 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: blocked in a loaded position group that kind of emerges 141 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: me and we've seen it every single year. Is there 142 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: anybody that you guys have kind of identified, maybe off 143 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: of traits or limited production that's gonna get more of 144 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: an opportunity this year at Alabama that could could jump 145 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: on the scene. Yeah, I mean, I would say most 146 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: people are talking about Jordan Battle at safety UM and 147 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the other safety de Marco Hellum's uh finished the year 148 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: really strong and watched the Iron Bowl game and he 149 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: was flying around. So he's a guy we're intrigued about 150 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: going into the year. Um. And then Cameron lot To, 151 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Like there's another guy that you haven't heard a lot about, 152 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: Cameron lot Too at the tight end position, but a 153 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: guy that went there on the defensive side of the 154 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: ball and has transitioned and he's one of our highest 155 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: graded tight ends going into the year, So we're excited 156 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: about him. He's been banged up a little bit here 157 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: in the preseason, I believe, but he's a guy that 158 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: with Bryce Young and quarterback, we think, uh, you know, 159 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: losing some of the perimeter guys, losing some of the 160 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: skill talent Jamison Williams and those guys from last year. Um, 161 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: they might be more tight end centric on offense, and 162 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: Cameron lot Too could have a big year. Yeah. It's funny. 163 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: Alabama is always kind of like the the darling of 164 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the SEC with the exception of Georgia, but Kentucky of 165 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: late has produced a bunch of different pros. Let's talk 166 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: about some of those guys, particularly to quarterback. Yeah, we've 167 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: had We've had a lot of those guys down here 168 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: in the game, you know, like last year Luke Fortner 169 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: and and and we had a crew of guys that 170 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: came down here and did a good job. Um. But 171 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: you can start with will you start with Will Levis. 172 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of been the talk all summer 173 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: of on the on the different platforms, and he should 174 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: be right. Like I talked about the man in camp 175 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: a little earlier to me, he and Anthony Richardson from Florida, 176 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: the junior quarterback Richard sophomore. Uh, those two guys, in 177 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: terms of physical tools are probably heading shoulders above the 178 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: rest of that group. Um. But again that's not with 179 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: twenty other twenty one other moving parts on football field. 180 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: So we need to see what that looks like. But 181 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: when you look at you look at guys like the 182 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: guys behind me. Um, if you can see the guys 183 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: behind me, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, a couple of guys 184 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: that have played in the game recent years. I think 185 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: those guys helped Will Levis his cost. Right, He's he's 186 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: got refer to those guys as tools. He guys right, 187 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: and and Josh Allen had some things accuracy. Why is 188 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: he need to clean up? Justin Herbert had questions coming 189 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: out of the scheme that he played in. Um, you know, 190 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: I think I think Will Levice brings a lot of 191 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: those same things to the table in terms of being 192 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: a big, physically impressive, put together guy. When you see him, 193 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: when you get up on him and he's an impressive dude, 194 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and then you see him throw it. You see him 195 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: running around on tape, So he's got all that stuff. 196 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: So we think he's gonna have a good year. They've 197 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: got a couple offensive lineman coming back. Um, they've got 198 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: a transfer receiver from Virginia Tech, so he's gonna have weapons. 199 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: Got a good senior running back coming back. So um yeah, 200 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: I think uh, I think Mark Stoops has just built 201 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: a great program up there. So um, you know everyone's 202 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: looking for that next team in the East after Georgia, 203 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: Kentucky's gonna be right there. You mentioned Georgia right there, 204 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: though again you got a long list of Georgia Bulldogs 205 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: that are on your watch list. As we're gonna have 206 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: every year here, But I want to get to the 207 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: two big games we've got come up this weekend. We've 208 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: got Georgia and Oregon, and talking to some guys that 209 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: have been up through Oregon and I know some of 210 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: their players from having studied those guys over the summer. Um. 211 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: You know what, Pena Sul's brother, Noahs Sou was a 212 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: really good line after. They've got another linebacker next to them, 213 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: and justin flow, they've got some real athletes. But everybody 214 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: that I talked to you that's been to both these 215 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: schools early and it's you know those early visits you 216 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: just kind of body type them and kind of move on. 217 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: But they've said they thought Oregon if you just you know, 218 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: you get Oregon off the bus and you get Georgia 219 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: off the bus, they won't look out of place. You 220 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: know that Oregon has got a real shot in this game. 221 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody's given them a shot, but I'd 222 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: love to get your thoughts on that one. And then 223 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Notre Dame Ohio statement, these are two monster games here 224 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Yeah, I think there's a lot 225 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: of question marks and that that Georgia Oregon game just 226 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Georgia defensively, you've got to replace so many people. And 227 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: I do think Kirby Smart has that Georgia program um 228 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: kind of where Nick Saban's got it. Now it's they're 229 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: kind of reloading now, you know that that that recruiting 230 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: monster is kind of you know, taking its form over 231 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: the last you know, five six years and now they 232 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: can just reload. But it's a guy, a lot of 233 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: guys that haven't played a ton of football and been 234 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: in prominent role. So how will they respond? But obviously 235 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: with guys like I think Nolan Smith being the headliner 236 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: they're on defense, you know, he's Carter to Kyl and Carter. 237 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean they've got some great players, you know, on offensively, 238 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Kenny mackintosh running back finally without Samir White there, without 239 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: James Cook there, I think we're gonna see Kenny mackintosh 240 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: have a breakoup year. And then you flip into the 241 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: organ side. Um. You know, I watched bow Nicks play 242 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot of football here in the state of Alabama 243 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: up at Auburn, and again he he kind of became 244 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: the whipping boy for the Auburn fan base a little bit. 245 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: He kind of took the brunt of the criticism, Um 246 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: to me unjustly, Um that you know they haven't You 247 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: just look at it from an NFL perspective, When was 248 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: the last thing Auburn cranked out a bunch of offensive linemen? So, um, 249 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: I think I think when it's not as showcase pose, 250 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, ability to run around and make those at 251 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: live plays. I think the LSU game is probably a 252 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: great example of that from last year, some of the 253 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: throws and plays the ball made. So I know that 254 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: we like bo vote Nicks right now, um as an 255 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: NFL prospect, and I know the NFL does uh talk 256 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: to a lot of NFL guys. I'm sure you have 257 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: over the summer as well that I think bos an 258 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: NFL guy. So we'll see how he looks in a 259 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: new in a new offense. But um, I think that's 260 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: where that one breaks down is just a lot of newness. 261 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: What does that look like? Right? Um, there's a lot 262 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: of questions to be answered in a big game like that. 263 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: And then Ohio State Notre Dame, that's just gonna be 264 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: a classic matchup. We're gonna have a scout at both 265 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: those games. We're excited to see both those teams but 266 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: the Marcus Freeman era is here, guys. I'm excited to 267 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: see what Notre Dame looks like. And Brian Kelly did 268 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: an awesome job there. Um, I don't think he gets 269 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: enough credit. I think people forget what Notre Dame looks like. 270 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean that that that program was nowhere near the 271 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: position he left it in for for Marcus Freeman. But uh, 272 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a ton of Notre Dame 273 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: prospects on the watch list this year, not a huge 274 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: senior class, and last year was here, I don't think 275 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: I don't think we had a Notre Dame guy in 276 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: the game last year, which which is a departure from 277 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: our first couple of years here at the game, we 278 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: were loaded with Notre Dame guys. So I think most 279 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: of their talent is young, um there. Whereas Ohio State 280 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: they're kind of where that Georgia and Alabama program is. 281 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: They just reload. So the guy at Ohio State I'm 282 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: really looking forward to see as Josh Proctor, the safety, 283 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: um really athletic guy, missed most of the last year 284 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: with an injury. You know, I'm going back to my 285 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: time with Seattle. He's long and he can run. I 286 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: I almost think some teams might look at this guy's 287 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: a press corner um and to see Procter come out 288 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: and see what he does. Week want nine guys, Buck, 289 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: He's got nine buck eys and there's only three from 290 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. And Notre Dame doesn't know you got the 291 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: tight end. Who's who's a little bit younger. They've got 292 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: some young offensive tackles. I think that are really gifted. 293 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: But you just I think this is helpful you you 294 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: tell me, Buck, I'll get to you on that one. 295 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: But I remember when we go through these visits and 296 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: you do your spring scouting and then you'd go through 297 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: training camp, and I remember the a P top twenty 298 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: five would come out and for for us and Nags, 299 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: you're out here too. But like we go to Boise 300 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: right and Boise would have it has like six or 301 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: seven like we would consider like top three round players 302 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: and the top twenty five would come out and they'd be, 303 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, eighteenth, and I'm like, there's no way that 304 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: there are seventeen teams better than this Boise State team. 305 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: But Buck, I feel like this is another example of 306 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: you can kind of look at some of these teams 307 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: and maybe Stanford is one of those that nobody's talking about, 308 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: and the scouts go through there like, hold up, these 309 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: guys got NFL dude, man, Yeah, I think it's funny. 310 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: I think it's funny when you when you look around 311 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: and you're trying to figure out internally, like the circle 312 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: inside the NFL circle of the teams that we know 313 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: have players and compared to the outside world. But I'm 314 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: not gonna let you go nagging without having this because 315 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: I need you to sell this debate before it takes 316 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: place over the weekend. So I'm looking at the watch 317 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: list and I'm seeing the Carolina has three guys. But 318 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm also seeing that a state has three guys. And 319 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: what I wonder is are you being friendly to the 320 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: app state people? Oh my gosh, are you being friendly? 321 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Do they really have three guys? They have three guys 322 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: that are really gonna show up and and and do 323 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: work a like. Can we talk about the comparison between 324 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: the two squads as it relates to the watch list. 325 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: We we can talk about that. I would like to 326 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: talk about when the three of us were Area Scouts 327 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: and we had all this inside knowledge that boys was 328 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a really good team, but we didn't have 329 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: enough money to go to Vegas. There was a time, 330 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: there was a time where as as little money as 331 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: we were making, you could have made a a argument 332 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, you're going to get fired for this 333 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: and it's going to end your career. But you're like, 334 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: I'm not really making that much money. I'm away from 335 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: my family, I'm traveling. Maybe I just take this institutional 336 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: knowledge and then and then apply it somewhere else. We 337 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: all showed a road trip straight from Boys and Donna. Baby. No, honestly, 338 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Buck and I'm not I'm not playing up to our 339 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: guy DJ at all. No app state. You guys know 340 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: they put out a lot of players. I mean there's 341 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: a couple of guys, Nick Hampton, a linebacker, Camera Peoples 342 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: are running back big back. So a couple of guys 343 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: we really like. But that'll be a good one. That's 344 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: another game will be at this this weekend. The Battle 345 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: of the Battle of the Move the Sticks. I don't 346 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: know what we want to call the Move the Sticks 347 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Ball Move the Sticks Showdown. I don't know. We gotta 348 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: come up with a name for this thing. Yeah, something 349 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: you guys need to come up with a name, but no, 350 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't. It'll be a good one. But yeah, those 351 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: app state guys. I mean, whether it's Keim Davis Gaither 352 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: and guys we've had over the years. I mean there's 353 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: been to Marco Jackson last year, Marco Mark. Yeah it's 354 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: Marco fitth round picked in the Saints. So h I 355 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: hear you, though, Buck, I hear you. What does Carolina happen? 356 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: By the way, give me some scouting scouting report on 357 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: the guys. I'm pulling up the names here. A lot 358 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: of hard little engine that could. The little engine that could. 359 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: You've got an On Green, You've got Noah Taylor, and 360 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: you've got Raymond Vas. Might be saying that wrong, Yeah, 361 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: but hostis a d line that we had on the 362 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: list last year. Taylor's a transfer from Virginia, big long linebacker, 363 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: was productive player of Virginia. So so we'll see kind 364 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: of wait to see. I think the guy that you 365 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: want to get you want to get a bit of degree. 366 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about the football for he just wanted 367 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: to get a bit of degree, so that's why he 368 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: left Virginia. Yeah, it's probably a big basketball fan. You 369 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: think that. I think students get free basketball tickets. I 370 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: think that's how that works there, Carolina. If you want 371 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: to get a bit of degree, you want to get 372 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: an upgrade. Oh my gosh, this is getting I prayed 373 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: it somehow we win this week. If the Padres, if 374 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: the Padres fall apart, don't make the playoffs in North 375 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: Carolina beats app State, It's gonna be a bad year 376 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: for me. Mann tell you that right now. All I know, 377 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: this is a football podcast. How are the Podres falling apart? 378 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't really follow baseball, but my goodness, we we 379 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: we trade for Josh Hayter, who is the best closer 380 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: literally by numbers, like in the history, and like you 381 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: look at Mario and Rivere with the saves, but like 382 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: K's per nine and and all those metrics literally the 383 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: best in history. He has a twenty four something e 384 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: r A since he came to the part. You can't 385 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: get it out. It's just a cursed franchise. It's it's unbelievable, man, 386 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely ridiculous. Um but yeah, anyways, not not 387 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: neither here nor there, um nags, what uh what do 388 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: you miss about the road? I know there's a lot 389 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: that we complained about over the years with that lifestyle, 390 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: the scouting lifestyle. Is there anything you miss the guys? 391 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I would say probably. I certainly don't miss a lot 392 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: about the road. I got out a little bit this fall. 393 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: UM had a chance to go speak to some schools, 394 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: which I know you guys do a lot of that 395 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: as well, talking to programs about the draft process, and 396 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: that's fun. I enjoy that. But I would say just 397 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: the guys, just the camaraderie, UM, And that's really why, 398 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: you know, selfishly, we've kind of built this thing the 399 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: way we've built it with former NFL scouts every year, 400 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: we've got nine guys this year with with a hundred 401 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: and sixty seventy years of NFL experience, a bunch of 402 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: guys you know, UM, and that makes it really just 403 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: being so it makes it fun for me. Um. We 404 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: need to be connected. It's important. Those relationships are important, right. UM. 405 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: We don't have the budget to be in a school 406 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: every day, so we're just at games on the weekend 407 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: and we're home watching tape. But UM to have a 408 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: network of guys that can call their buddies. But I 409 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: just I just missed the guys on the road. I 410 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: just was showing up to school call and you know, 411 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: running in a two or three guys from other teams 412 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: hadn't seen it a little bit and just catching up 413 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: that day. And that's probably the biggest thing. Yeah, I 414 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: missed bringing the donuts. I'm miss making sure that I 415 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: was there early to bring the donuts, to make sure 416 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: that the school business were properly uh welcome, that we 417 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: lived them. I miss I miss I missed the three 418 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: of us being together at cal Berkeley when they're Shimmy 419 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: and the Pooh down the tree for the people that 420 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: were living up in the tree and You're looking at 421 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: the and I'm like, what is going on here? Man? 422 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: People living up there in the tree. Reason Like, I'm like, 423 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: there's shipping in a little bucket down. What's They're like, 424 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to know what that is? Well, well, 425 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: buck back to your donuts. Thing that like, my goal 426 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: was always to make it through the fall without like 427 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: reaching into the box in the in the passenger seating 428 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: the school. You get to like the middle of October 429 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: and the dog days especial, especially when you can't you 430 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: can't get a parking spot. You know, you get there 431 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: there's no parking spot. You get a little bit, there's 432 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: a road that's closed. You're trying to figure out how 433 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: to get in the facility. The frustration I found lead 434 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: lens to that donut box being opened. That's that's what happens. 435 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: The intention was to go in with a dozen, but 436 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: towards the October October, those guys were getting about ten donuts, 437 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: just the coordinators. Just the coordinators by the time. So 438 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: the trick is for for the guys, you have to 439 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: bring a dozen, But then you get the donut holes 440 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: because you can eat out the donut holes and no 441 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: one knows that you've been snacking. But if you take 442 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: one that doesn't, hey, this doesn't like. So you gotta 443 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: get the donut holes. Donut holes. By the way, I 444 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: just drove my son. Uh he's a freshman at Baylor's 445 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: and Bucky knew by this, so I drove him out 446 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: to get him all set up. And uh, and you know, 447 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: one of us, I think I remember even who it was. 448 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: I had to go to the restroom and I employed 449 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the scouting one oh one if you got to go 450 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: to the bathroom when you're on the road. Yes, we 451 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: went to we found a hamp We think it was 452 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: a Hampton in Uh just walked in, said hi to 453 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Beverley at the front. There's walk back to. That is 454 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: the cleanest bathroom you've ever seen, never been used. Nobody's 455 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: ever used a lobby restroom at a hotel. So go 456 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: in there, take care of business. On the way out, 457 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: you get a warm chocolate chip cookie Bev. Hey, thanks, 458 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: have a great day. As far as she knows, we're 459 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: staying there in the car and off we go. UM. 460 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: It's literally the best piece of information I could ever 461 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: hand down to anybody. It's eight years of scouting on 462 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: the road has led to that one piece of advice 463 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: that I can offer everybody. Uh, last one from me, 464 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Nag's Uh, I'm sure is how you guys have dealt 465 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: with this? Because I know I'm talking to somebodies around 466 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: on the road right now. They've said, because the portal, 467 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: and because you know, you go into some of these schools, 468 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: like I guess l s U has a ton of 469 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: transfers to UM, but some of these schools you go 470 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: into and a lot of these liaisons. Every program for 471 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: those who don't know has a pro liaison is somebody 472 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: on the staff that deals with all the scouts, and 473 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: they just you know, supposedly know these kids better than anybody. 474 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: It's a great source of information. They they don't know 475 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: these players. Man, they've been there for a couple of 476 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: months and they're gonna be draft eligible as juniors or seniors. 477 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: But I'm curious to see background wise for scouts. This 478 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: is got to be harder than it's ever been, man, 479 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: because the school visit, they don't even know these kids. 480 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: They're throwing them out there, letting them play for a 481 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: year and they're gone. Yeah, it's two things. Really, it's 482 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: two fold. It's it's the portal and then it's also 483 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: the movement on the coaching side, So you know, it's 484 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: it's two different things. I feel like now whereas when 485 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: when you're a national scout, when you were in over 486 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: the top guy, you know, it was more just go in, 487 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: get the evailed on and that's what the team's banking 488 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: on for you. But now that the national guys, the 489 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: college directors like they film more of an information gathering 490 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: role on the character side because they're bopping all over 491 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: the country where all these guys have been um and 492 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: sometimes that's the best information, right You get a coach 493 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: that was with a guy to former school, you might 494 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: you might deal more forthcoming. So yeah, it's definitely changed 495 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: the dynamic and scouting. I mean it is it's hard 496 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: these you go to these schools and we're like, yeah, 497 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: I just show it up here. And in July, I mean, 498 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: we had a we had a guy that we're talking 499 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: about on the watch list, putting on the watch list 500 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago, and next thing you know, 501 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: we're ready to put the list out and he jumps 502 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: in the portal and we're like, we took him up 503 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: north school to put them with right, And then uh so, yeah, 504 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a different world. It's a different 505 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: world than the one we used to live in. One 506 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: thing before we go, different world that we're living in. 507 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: We're seeing a bunch of our guys and guys that 508 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: have similar experiences make their way to the college rinks. 509 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: As de facto general managers for college teams. What do 510 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: you think about a transition? Uh, now, particularly because you've 511 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: kind of done something similar in terms of the Senior Bowl. Uh, 512 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: what skills would enable them to be pretty successful in 513 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: making that transition going from the pro game to now 514 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: dealing with recruiting and the transfer port Yeah, I think 515 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: it's awesome, Buck, I really do. I think. Uh, you know, 516 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: there's only thirty two NFL teams, right, so I mean, 517 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: you get done, you're you're a life for There's a 518 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: lot of guys that again just because of the nature 519 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: of what we do here at the Senior Bowl and 520 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: trying to get guys that have been let go after 521 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: the draft every year and kind of creating a new 522 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: staff year to year. Um, maybe I'm a little more 523 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: sensitive to it, but um, you hear guys that are 524 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, close to our age and you know, mid 525 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: forties to early fifties, and this is all they've ever 526 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: done with their life. And now they get let go 527 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: from a from an NFL job, and they've got kids 528 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: that are still in middle school, high school. They gotta 529 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: put them through college and uh, and it's tough. It's tough. 530 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: The profession is getting younger. So it's to me, it's 531 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: this is great timing that this has happened at the 532 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: college level because these colleges are going to more of 533 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: a pro model because now you have a high school 534 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: scouting department and then a portal slash college scouting department. 535 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we've seen some examples this offseason 536 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: NFL guys jumping down and getting GM type rolls. Um. 537 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: And I think it's great. I think it's great for 538 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: the profession. I think it's gonna open a lot more opportunities. 539 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: And it needed to happen because the NFL is really 540 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: kind of shrinking. Um. You know, we're trying, they're trying 541 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: to get younger. So it's it's given a landing spot, 542 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: a nice a nice great landing spot for for guys 543 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: that are getting squeezed out a little bit. At the 544 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: NFL level. It is really like a NFL front office 545 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: now when you consider you've got high school kids, which 546 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: was very similar to college scouting, and you've got the 547 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: portal which is free agency, and you're trying to budget 548 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: all that. And I'm sure, whether they admit it or not, 549 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some other you know, monetary things they 550 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: have to budget with the current rules as they exist. Again, 551 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: you got yetta, you gotta talk about roster management to now, right, 552 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: there's models like the NFL has different models set up 553 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: for year to year based off cap and Okay, if 554 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: we do this with this player. How's that gonna fact? Well, 555 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: colle just doing the same thing. And they're going on 556 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: like probability of us keeping a certain player right, like 557 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: the probability if him transpring or not. Um, so it is. 558 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: It is all. It's the wild West right now at 559 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: the n I L. But UM, I'll say this, like 560 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: the really good programs there's are staying ahead of it. 561 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: I think they're being proactive about this. I think they're 562 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: looking to the NFL. I'm sure they've reached out to 563 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: you guys. I've had guys at the college level head 564 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: coaches reach out to to us um to get input. 565 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: And Uh, it's cool that it's cool to see they're 566 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: doing it, no doubt. UM. I want to leave you 567 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: with this final thought. Um, you can go right now 568 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: if you want to go watch Florida State and l 569 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: s U. Those are big brands, right, Florida State and 570 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: l s U tickets as low as a hundred and 571 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: forty eight dollars. It's a pretty expensive ticket, um, but 572 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be a little cheaper 573 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: than if you want to go up to Boone and 574 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: watch the Mountaineers get after the tar Heels. The cheapest 575 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: ticket right now is a hundred and eighty seven bucks 576 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: to that game. It is the it's the hottest ticket 577 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: this weekend. Forget notre name Ohio state, it's it's it's 578 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: in Boone, North Carolina next. And according to some some 579 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: people in the desert, Bucky's team should have a They 580 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: should have an easy time of it, you know. So 581 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: they are the folks in the in the desert believe 582 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: that the tar Heels are I don't know, maybe a 583 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: point in a half better than the than the good guys. 584 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: But we'll see point and a half. We'll see how 585 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: that goes down up there on the hill. If you 586 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: take that long bus ride up to boom like a 587 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: point we can fly. Have you been to a game there? 588 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Have you been to a game in Boon? Oh? Yeah, absolutely? 589 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: And you gotta go early because even if you go 590 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: like middle of October, it might be treacherous up the mountain. 591 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: You might be you might be getting some early snow. 592 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta get up there early. You were 593 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: all lucky, like we don't have to worry about ticket prices. 594 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to that Florida State. Hell, are you right there? 595 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: You gotful. You get your past, by the way, treacherous 596 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: on the way up the mountain, more treacherous once you 597 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: get to the top on the well. I'll say, I'll 598 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: say this not to a pump your school. That is 599 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: a in terms of like college settings to see a 600 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: football game in, especially when the colors are changing. Man, 601 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: that a beautiful venue to see a football game. And 602 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: by the way, much much respect for the matchup for 603 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: them putting us on ESPN you at at nine am 604 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: West Coast, by the way, come on, we can get 605 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: we can get a like a three thirty East Coast game. 606 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: Buck where it's disrespectful man, ESPN you we couldn't get 607 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: on the deuce. We couldn't go on ESPN two for 608 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: that game. Really, okid? All right now, you're the best, brother. 609 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man, it's great to hang out with you. 610 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: Encourage everybody. Go check out the Senior Bowl watch list 611 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: ww dot w dot Senior Bowl dot com slash watch list. 612 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: You can see all the names, all the top players 613 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: in the country. UM gonna be highlighting what this upcoming 614 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: draft is gonna look like here in the spring. So Jim, 615 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: you're the best. We appreciate you, bud, I have a 616 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: safe fall man. Appreciate it, guys, and follow us on 617 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Saturdays on Twitter. We're gonna be at thirteen games this weekend. 618 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: We'll be posting prospect videos from down in the field. 619 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: So give me the give me the Twitter handle, give 620 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: me the Twitter handle. Come on you you can't ask 621 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: me to do that at Jim nad you underscore sp 622 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, give us a follow. We'll be bringing you 623 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: as many prospects as we can, all the entire fault. 624 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: So thanks for having me out, guys. Thanks buddy. Good 625 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: to see man Buck always always a treat to catch 626 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: up with Jim again. Uh, it makes you feel old 627 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: a little bit, right, I mean these uh you know, 628 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: these relationships that we have. Now you're talking about going 629 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: back gosh, twenty years, twenty plus years. Good night, we're 630 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: getting old, man, I know. So funny. It's so crazy 631 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: how how it plays out. But look, man, he's done 632 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: a great job. He's done a great job growing the 633 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: biz and doing a really good job with a senior Bowl. 634 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Kind of excited to have a chance to talk to 635 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: him about this as he has into the season. Gives 636 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: a little insight on players to talk about players to watch. 637 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I gotta give you this last thing before we get 638 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: out of here. So you know, I messed up my toe. 639 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: So now it's it's back. It's healthy again, so I'm back. 640 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: I can start working out again. I've been like, I'm 641 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: a peloton guy, like to just get on there and 642 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: pedal you. I know you like the bike to we 643 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: do that. But my daughter has as a gym membership, 644 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: and so it wasn't that much money, more money to 645 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: do the family memberships. I was like, you know, I'm 646 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: not going there. And I realized at this point in 647 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: time in life, you can walk down that You walk 648 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: into the gym, and there's the freeweights to the left, 649 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: and then there's machines to the right, very much a 650 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: younger audience in the freeweight area, very much an older 651 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: audience in the machine area. And buck I went. I 652 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: went so fast to that machine area. I didn't even blink. 653 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: Didn't even blink. You're on the machines. But they're like, 654 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: it's like me and a bunch of octogenarians over there, 655 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: like doing like adductor and abductor leg leg exercises, like 656 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: I do, what am I gonna do? Go over there 657 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: and squat like, No, those days are over, man, I 658 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: want nothing to do with that. Are you freeweights? Are you? 659 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Are you lifting weights right now? Yoga every days? See, 660 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: that's that's the stuff. That's the good. I gotta do that. 661 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: I got everybody, I didn't tell me that for years. 662 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: I gotta do some yoga. I gotta I gotta check 663 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: that out. By the way, By the way, this is 664 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: the the best part about our our our mini celebrity right, 665 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: very many, very much d level celebrities. I tweeted out 666 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: that I lost I keep losing sunglasses and this company 667 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: sent me, sent me some new glasses. How about that. 668 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't They're not an official NFL sponsor, so I 669 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: guess I probably can't say what company, but I'll take 670 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: the free shades. Man, appreciate That's that's a win. Um, 671 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: all right, anything else you want to add before we 672 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: get out of here. I ask you this at the 673 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: end of every podcast episode, I just I mean, I know, 674 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: we talked to Coach Brown and uh we got yeah. 675 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: I guess we tell everybody, right because coming up here 676 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: on the next episode, we've got Bucky's coach North Carolina, 677 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: the legend Mac Brown National champion Mac Brown and then 678 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: my college teammates Shaan Clark, who's the head coach at 679 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: Appalachian State. Is our two Alma maters square off? Um 680 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: this weekend. We gotta I'm gonna put it on Twitter. 681 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: See what we can call this? What we're gonna call 682 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: this game? We gotta come up with something. I don't know. 683 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: But so it was weird because Brown also states all things. 684 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: All things, he raised money, and he told he told 685 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: us that story the year that he took the Carolina job. 686 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: Earlier in that year, he had spent time raising money 687 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: for app States. He was literally filling the coffers of 688 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: a team that would go on to beat him. I 689 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: fee that next year. Yah we drink? Yeah, what you like? 690 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: Drink's there? You go? Uh hey, I know, take take 691 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: our little game out of it, dude. I'm so pumped 692 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: for college football on Saturday. Man, it's gonna be fun. 693 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: Great lay games. This wee can be a lot of fun. 694 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: It would be a lot of fun to sit down 695 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: and just watch like a bunch of talent that kind 696 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: of do the thing. Should be fun. Yeah, no doubt, 697 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for us. I hope 698 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: you guys have had fun hanging with us today. We uh, 699 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: we always enjoy hanging with you. I would encourage you 700 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: give us a rating and review on Apple podcast We 701 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: appreciate those, or wherever you get your podcasts. Um give 702 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: us some any ideas you have for the fall. We 703 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: got three episodes a week coming your way. We're kind 704 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: of workshop and how we're gonna put this whole thing together. 705 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: We've been doing this a long time, but we're always 706 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: open to suggestion, so appreciate you guys. We'll catch you 707 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: next time right here on moving the sticks