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Speaker 1: Cowboys officially eliminated from playoff contention on Christmas Eve twenty one,
Speaker 1: twelve loss to the Seattle Seahawks. I hope everybody, in
Speaker 1: spite of that, had a great holiday. We're back at
Speaker 1: the Star breaking it down, guys, and it's always it's rare,
Speaker 1: actually in the last several years that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: a game left to play and we know what their
Speaker 1: fate is. So this is gonna be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a different show. We're gonna break down the game
Speaker 1: and we can also we can also go big picture
Speaker 1: here what's next for this team as well, although we
Speaker 1: have plenty of time to talk about that. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: nine whole months, yeah least a few, Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: ways to go. That's a good I hadn't thought about.
Speaker 1: That's two years in a row that we head into
Speaker 1: week seventeen without a whole lot of you know, in
Speaker 1: the way of drama. At least last year was obviously
Speaker 1: good this year or not so much. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you go back to twenty fifteen, four and twelve, yeah,
Speaker 1: not a good season. Twenty ten when Jason Garrett took
Speaker 1: over his interim coach, you knew you were out of it.
Speaker 1: But other than that, just about every year you go
Speaker 1: into Week seventeen thinking there's something to play for still
Speaker 1: and they found out by losing Nate it's over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely over. Man. When I looked at this game,
Speaker 1: Manu and me and brought us talk, you know, we
Speaker 1: talked during the shows that we do together, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying and I never doubt it kJ Wright and Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner being bad. I never doubted that. I never doubted
Speaker 1: been it. But I did know their mental makeup was
Speaker 1: not right. This was a game that if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was just came in execute it, dude, with ahead to do,
Speaker 1: and I turned the ball over that this was a
Speaker 1: game to be had because we and I'm not a mathematician,
Speaker 1: but eleven penaltist for one hundred and forty two and
Speaker 1: your total offensive output is one hundred and thirty six
Speaker 1: and the only thing that beat us with some bad
Speaker 1: play calling and some and three turnovers. We should It's
Speaker 1: no way in the world we shouldn't be sitting up
Speaker 1: in him joking and having funds about talking about Bowl
Speaker 1: games instead of Yeah, where were sitting at Part nine? Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: go ahead, hard to win that way, I'm Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you wasted a tremendous defensive effort. I think
Speaker 1: going into the game, the one thing and even though
Speaker 1: my gut feeling I picked Seattle to win and I
Speaker 1: felt like they were gonna win because of Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: it's why. And you know it really wasn't Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: He made the one big run on a third and
Speaker 1: nine for ten yards that you know, I thought, Man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see more that they didn't have a downfield
Speaker 1: passing game. We knew they couldn't run the football. They
Speaker 1: didn't do a very good job of protecting him. I
Speaker 1: thought that Rod Marinelli in that group played as well
Speaker 1: as they can play against that type of quarterback. But
Speaker 1: for them not to get rewarded for that type of
Speaker 1: effort offensively, the strength of this team all year long
Speaker 1: we thought was the offense, and it really isn't. It
Speaker 1: isn't the strength. I mean, maybe it's a year when
Speaker 1: we go back and look at this and have that
Speaker 1: reflective show where we misevaluated a lot of guys we misevaluated,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that if you look at
Speaker 1: this though, was the quarterback exposed during the six games
Speaker 1: where Ezekiel Elliott wasn't playing. That's into something I think
Speaker 1: we need to look at itself. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: throw Dak under the bus, but I'm just saying for
Speaker 1: some of the things that you needed to do. I'm
Speaker 1: the one guy came on this show and talked about
Speaker 1: Scott Linahan will benefit by having Ezekiel l a back. Boy,
Speaker 1: was I wrong about that? He really was? Well, Scott Lillihan,
Speaker 1: I mean and that and that. No, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that that to me, you've got to find a way
Speaker 1: to use him to open up other things. And I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that they had a good enough game
Speaker 1: plan offensively. Now give Seattle some credit for the front
Speaker 1: they have, you know, for the line boxers they have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they create turnovers, the punch out, all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: you know, overall though Seattle did the right thing. They
Speaker 1: knew that Dallas's offense was so inept that they even
Speaker 1: ran the ball on third down at times just to
Speaker 1: get off the field. They weren't. They weren't, and they
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, yeah, we'll play defense today because they're
Speaker 1: not doing anything that'st us. It was not an overly
Speaker 1: aggressive game plan by the Seattle and that's we went
Speaker 1: into it. You know, I wasn't surprised that they lost,
Speaker 1: but if I was surprised by what it looked like
Speaker 1: because you mentioned it. Russell Wilson really had one drive
Speaker 1: where he looked like Russell Wilson. He's seventy something yards,
Speaker 1: scrambled for scrambled for ten when he needed nine. I
Speaker 1: think he went four or five for thirty five yards
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, and he drew a big pass interference
Speaker 1: to put him down in the red zone. Other than that,
Speaker 1: I mean, that wasn't that wasn't up to his snuff.
Speaker 1: He ran for twenty nine yards and through for ninety three.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you tell me that's his stat line,
Speaker 1: I assume the Cowboys are gonna win somewhat comfortably. You know.
Speaker 1: The amazing thing about it is, you know, a man,
Speaker 1: And like I said, you know, we've been brought us
Speaker 1: going back and forth between all but you know the
Speaker 1: bad words I was using during the game, and he
Speaker 1: said they wanted to keep it close because of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, I'm great witch, and because they believed
Speaker 1: in their mind, if they overthin seven with two minutes left,
Speaker 1: either way defensively or offensively, they could make the play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's a veteran savvy team, a coach that knows this team,
Speaker 1: and they're like, we're not gonna try to make no
Speaker 1: great plays. We're just gonna run it. We're gonna're gonna
Speaker 1: play it by the book. You know, you hear guys,
Speaker 1: let's played this by the book. They played this game
Speaker 1: raped by the book and let us fall apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Zeke kept saying it after the game. We beat ourselves.
Speaker 1: We referenced, I think David reference earlier, the three turnovers,
Speaker 1: one pick six for Dak So really Seattle gets fourteen points.
Speaker 1: That's all the defense allowed in this game. So that's it.
Speaker 1: That's like Brian said, that's a wasted defensive effort. But
Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong and saying I think all
Speaker 1: of us felt like Zeke coming back off suspension in
Speaker 1: this game was gonna kind of restore things off posively
Speaker 1: the way the offense functions. Didn't it look like the
Speaker 1: defense did it looked like it was going to in
Speaker 1: the first quarter or something. Yeah, absolutely, I never I
Speaker 1: What happened was three and then again three and then
Speaker 1: a punch out. Yeah. You know, uh you you you've
Speaker 1: played I don't know how many weeks without Zeke and
Speaker 1: will ze Yeah, and I'm talking about Dad. You played
Speaker 1: and you would calm. Now Zeke get back and you
Speaker 1: lose it for some reason. Yeah, you got to keep
Speaker 1: the same calmness because now you'd went out of character
Speaker 1: and it hurts you. Yeah, because wow, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what and maybe this is a whole other
Speaker 1: thing for a whole other time. But now he opened
Speaker 1: himself up, in my opinion, for the consideration of like, okay,
Speaker 1: what do we need to do with his contract? What
Speaker 1: do we And I know and I know it's not
Speaker 1: just now. I mean I shouldn't say it as that
Speaker 1: just that one game, but now you're in now you're
Speaker 1: in a state where you're going, Okay, it's twenty some
Speaker 1: odd straight games without a hundred yards. You know, it's
Speaker 1: I've said this a couple of times on Twitter, even
Speaker 1: as recently as like Sunday morning. I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there like his receiver really that big of a
Speaker 1: problem for this team, Like these guys can get back
Speaker 1: on track, you know. The funny joke is like, there's
Speaker 1: no way all of them forgot how to play in
Speaker 1: the span of like five months, you know, because i
Speaker 1: mean even they had good training camps. All of them
Speaker 1: did right. Um, And then you see this and you're like,
Speaker 1: how do you defend it? Especially? I mean the twelve
Speaker 1: million dollar elephant in the room is you put a
Speaker 1: game like that on tape and that's the last real
Speaker 1: impression you're gonna make this Eagles game, isn't you know?
Speaker 1: It's not a sure meaningful game, so that the lasting
Speaker 1: impression for the year. Of course, people are going to
Speaker 1: talk about. No, he you know, if you look at
Speaker 1: the big picture like Rob was talking about, and you
Speaker 1: evaluate the whole team, that's a position you're absolutely going
Speaker 1: to have to evaluate and you're gonna and as you
Speaker 1: said it, the elephant in the room is that, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy has paid this to do what And if
Speaker 1: you're not doing what you're supposed to do, then you've
Speaker 1: opened yourself up to that. You know, you open yourself
Speaker 1: up to that, to that that that scrutiny. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys on this team
Speaker 1: that have opened themselves up to scrutiny, which you know,
Speaker 1: and you briefly mentioned the quarterback, and I mean Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott did not play well. No, not at all. No,
Speaker 1: he had a he had a bad you know, I tried,
Speaker 1: I beg and I told everybody when that kid got
Speaker 1: hit the second time against Atlanta, I said, don't do
Speaker 1: this to him. Yeah, that's the first thing hit in
Speaker 1: my mind, I said, because the thing that I called
Speaker 1: Zeke the MVP every time we get on this show,
Speaker 1: because he covered up all of my man's deficiencies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of being a young quarterback. I'm not saying what he
Speaker 1: won't be in a year from now, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: what happens to most young quarterbacks absence of a run game. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's I guess that's the point I was gonna make.
Speaker 1: Is I just you know, looking around Twitter, looking around
Speaker 1: the different places where you can talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of criticism of Dak Prescott and he
Speaker 1: didn't have he didn't play a good game, and it
Speaker 1: hasn't been a season that was up to the level
Speaker 1: of expectation. But the second year player too. This game
Speaker 1: is a fantastic microcosm of just how bad everybody's been.
Speaker 1: I mean, the pick six is arguably the worst throw
Speaker 1: of Dak's young career. Arguably just up there, just missed
Speaker 1: him right trying to dump it off, and just had
Speaker 1: arguably two open men in front of him and Jason
Speaker 1: witch right, so and so the reason I bring that
Speaker 1: up is I'm not trying to absolve Dak of blame.
Speaker 1: But his receiver gets stripped on his first reception of
Speaker 1: the game, his twelve million dollars receiver, let's maybe a
Speaker 1: poorly thrown ball, but still hit both of his hands,
Speaker 1: bounce off for a red zone interception. Um his his
Speaker 1: offensive line doesn't do a great job of protecting him,
Speaker 1: His running back doesn't do a great job of protecting
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator gave him no healthy offensive coordinate like this.
Speaker 1: You know, to sit here and try to pin this
Speaker 1: cluster on one person is a mistake in Maya. But
Speaker 1: it isn't that kind of where this team goes. Isn't
Speaker 1: it where all year long? It's hard to pin it
Speaker 1: on one guy. I think there are some games the losses.
Speaker 1: Do you say, well, Garrett took the blame for the
Speaker 1: lost in Atlanta. There are some games that coaches didn't
Speaker 1: do that very good job. There are some games where
Speaker 1: it's easier than others Atlanta for instance, and then there
Speaker 1: are others where just everything falls. I mean, they looked
Speaker 1: at they looked at the Charger game and said, we
Speaker 1: got to do something the secondary. We can't give up
Speaker 1: a five hundred yard passing game anymore. Yeah, it's funny
Speaker 1: you said that. My father in law and Christmas yesterday
Speaker 1: was talking to me about the Cowboys and the way
Speaker 1: he described it as a fan was whack a mole
Speaker 1: and trying to determine what's wrong with this team. It
Speaker 1: hasn't been just one thing every year, every every week.
Speaker 1: It's been like you said, they they made efforts to
Speaker 1: change up the lineup in the secondary. That helped. With
Speaker 1: Scander getting hurt too, they lost some experience there. But
Speaker 1: those guys have been playing well at times. But like
Speaker 1: Dave said, sometimes it's the receivers, sometimes the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think you've got to point out the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, especially you know during that three game losing
Speaker 1: streak when Tyrone was out, he last one series in
Speaker 1: the game with the spring knee, Nate and Byron Bell
Speaker 1: comes in there. Da, It's not all on him, but
Speaker 1: Dak winds up getting sacked four times in this game.
Speaker 1: He was under a lot of duress, you know. And
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, I got to tell people, you know,
Speaker 1: I used to fight this hard. You know. I ain't
Speaker 1: talking about the draft until but I totally believe this
Speaker 1: right here and and everybody got their pick. Oh my
Speaker 1: pick is what guy you can find in the draft
Speaker 1: that can come in here and contribute to this team
Speaker 1: in a meaningful way. I don't care what position is it.
Speaker 1: We don't need a kicker, Yeah, we got a kicker.
Speaker 1: We don't need a partner. We got a punt it,
Speaker 1: we got a long snapper. But every other position is
Speaker 1: wide open in my in my book, I mean that
Speaker 1: can come in and play and impact this team. Because
Speaker 1: one thing has been proven over the last eight years
Speaker 1: that we cannot absorb one suspension or one injury. We
Speaker 1: can't we can't absorb that one player leaves and it's
Speaker 1: just mass destruction. That's that's disheartened. As a as a fan,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, we lost one guy. We get this guy,
Speaker 1: but we lost this guy. Now we can't play like
Speaker 1: a game of jinga almost or like a house of cards.
Speaker 1: It is it is, And you know, there's as Nate said,
Speaker 1: there's there's multiple areas they can fix. Yeah, going forward
Speaker 1: to Jerry actually spoke to that on the fan this
Speaker 1: morning specifically about the offense that we've got to look
Speaker 1: at ways to maximize the skills of Dak Prescott, Zeke,
Speaker 1: our receivers. They still feel the strength of this team's
Speaker 1: the offensive line. We have a cut of it. Huh
Speaker 1: do we have a cut of Jerry saying that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we do, but the day after Christmas, Nate,
Speaker 1: We're only gonna know so much. Okay, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: man brought his work, you know, But I think that
Speaker 1: when when that that's where Jerry, I think that's Jerry's
Speaker 1: way of saying, Scott Linahan, why didn't you run the
Speaker 1: ball in the one yard line? Well, he actually said
Speaker 1: that earlier in the segment. Yeah, that he you know,
Speaker 1: and he says, look, I second guess a lot of things.
Speaker 1: He thought they should have gone forward around the goal
Speaker 1: line in Oakland, he was right by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know that was his feeling. To your point, Brian,
Speaker 1: about this game the other night, is that pound? It
Speaker 1: was Zeke. He's the guy that was getting five yards
Speaker 1: a pop for you earlier in the game. See. This
Speaker 1: is where I think the frustration level of the owner
Speaker 1: was that he was excited to have Zeke back, and
Speaker 1: he was excited to like think, okay, and Dave, you
Speaker 1: sat there over my shoulder all week long. I remember
Speaker 1: I kept turning around saying, wait, look at Jacksonville running
Speaker 1: in here. Oh, look at the Rams running in here.
Speaker 1: Brian likes to mutter his notes to himself while he
Speaker 1: watches tape. Yeah, I kept seeing on the one two
Speaker 1: yard line teams running the football in and I just
Speaker 1: cannot believe. I think the direct quote was, well, these
Speaker 1: guys do not want to stop you on the goal line.
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't, and that's the problem I had,
Speaker 1: you know, And yeah, I like to if you're gonna lose,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose it all you know, you're your best player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that. And Nate made that point in our post
Speaker 1: game show. He's like, how could you not hand the
Speaker 1: ball to him? How can you not do that? And
Speaker 1: to me, that's where that's where sometimes and I've been
Speaker 1: accused of this or not accused, I say it all
Speaker 1: the time. Coaches take turn to the trainer, take give
Speaker 1: me the two stupid pills and a cup of gaate
Speaker 1: or aid and let's go. You know, I've never called
Speaker 1: a third down defense. I've never called players. But you
Speaker 1: know what, I always tried to find my guys players
Speaker 1: that could help the coach. And every time I mean,
Speaker 1: they found a player that can successfully get the ball
Speaker 1: in the end zone, why not use him in that situation. See,
Speaker 1: that's where I that's where I have a problem with
Speaker 1: this well, and that's probably Brian. That's probably the hottest
Speaker 1: topic coming out of this game. Decision around the goal line,
Speaker 1: just real quick, just to reset it. Yeah, first in
Speaker 1: goal from the three yard line after the Winton pass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're down twenty one twelve midway through the fourth quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have an RPO run pass option with Dak and
Speaker 1: you can argue that Dak made the right read in
Speaker 1: terms of the way the front looked right. Did they score?
Speaker 1: They didn't score. Mate. Now, the question that fans and
Speaker 1: observers are saying, Nate is do you take it out
Speaker 1: of your quarterbacks hands and say let's just run the foot?
Speaker 1: Who was your best player, Zeke? See that's what And
Speaker 1: we've seen the RPO backfire a couple different times. Nate
Speaker 1: feels a type of way about this. We feel. We
Speaker 1: saw the RPO struggle at opening day against the Giants.
Speaker 1: We saw the art. This same sequence happened against the Giants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the RPO failed against the Packers where you
Speaker 1: should have run the ball and kept the clock going,
Speaker 1: where they threw the fade to death. I understand in
Speaker 1: the in and oh my god, if you if you
Speaker 1: have somebody other than Ezekiel Elliott running the ball, I
Speaker 1: understand the RPOs. I do I get it. I would
Speaker 1: even and I'm not trying to defend it. Please God,
Speaker 1: don't think I am. But it's it's worked. It's at
Speaker 1: times this year throws to Beasley, throws to Witton, But
Speaker 1: you did, but that's without that's six games a lot.
Speaker 1: It's worked this year. But without Ezekiel in the lineup?
Speaker 1: Am I right about that? I want to say they
Speaker 1: did it against Green Bay when Zeke was there, and
Speaker 1: then the Chiefs for that matter, They've done it in
Speaker 1: games where he was there because he's a hell of
Speaker 1: a he's a hell of a bait. This No, he
Speaker 1: is a bit. But the problem, the problem is the
Speaker 1: problem is though you didn't need to be cute. And
Speaker 1: that's that's that's where I fall on it. This is
Speaker 1: a game, this is a game where you weren't going
Speaker 1: to have a whole hell of a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 1: You've got to score right there. You cannot. If I
Speaker 1: would rather go down, I would rather die. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would die handing the ball to my best guy. And
Speaker 1: again I would trying to make fifty fifty throws. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in defending it. I think maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I defended a little harder. If it's the first quarter,
Speaker 1: if it's a scoreless game, but you're down two possessions
Speaker 1: and in crunch time, do you need that touchdown? Keep
Speaker 1: it simple? Stup? Yeah, you know, Nate, I don't have
Speaker 1: the audio for you, but when we come back, I'll
Speaker 1: read you The quote from Jerry Jones about that faithful drive,
Speaker 1: the end of the drive in the fourth quarter, with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys trailing twenty one twelve, the ultimately lose and
Speaker 1: are knocked out of playoff contention. When we come back
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys, we'll get more into that game, as
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Speaker 1: two twenty one O two recap Cowboys lost twenty one
Speaker 1: twelve the Seattle knocking them out of the playoffs. All right, Nate,
Speaker 1: I got your quote for you, okay, Jerry Jones about
Speaker 1: that drive near the goal line. Fourth quarter, Cowboys drive
Speaker 1: in inside the three yard line. He says, yes, hindsight,
Speaker 1: he would have run the football with Zeke. He said, quote,
Speaker 1: I think those are our best opportunities in those short
Speaker 1: yardage situations, even though they've got their lines stacked. I
Speaker 1: think those are our best opportunities to use what we
Speaker 1: do best. Our strength is our offensive line. We've got
Speaker 1: Dak in there. Our strength is to make short yardage plays.
Speaker 1: Zeke is probably the best in short short yardage weapon
Speaker 1: we've had in many, many years around here. End quote.
Speaker 1: I was on the fan this morning, so run the
Speaker 1: damn ball pretty much. That's on the head coach though, too.
Speaker 1: Head coach has the ability to click over and say, Scott,
Speaker 1: what he got? What are we doing here? I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about going sprint right, No, Scott, we need to run
Speaker 1: the ball here. Let's come on, let's pound it in
Speaker 1: there a couple of times, see we got let's go.
Speaker 1: You know, that's on the head coach. I understand that
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett likes to let you know, Scott linahand called plays.
Speaker 1: I get that, you know, don't don't always be an
Speaker 1: observer there and and may hey, you know what Maybe
Speaker 1: I might be totally wrong about this. Maybe he clicked
Speaker 1: over and said, hey, run the ball and Scott talked
Speaker 1: him out of it. I don't know that, but I
Speaker 1: do know the head coach has to manage the game
Speaker 1: and he and that's a responsibility. There. You're seeing how
Speaker 1: your defense, you're you have got to feel like if
Speaker 1: you're if you're if you're Jason Garrett, if you get
Speaker 1: a touchdown there, you can get a stop and get
Speaker 1: the ball back and maybe score again. They've been playing. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: the way the defense held held up in that game.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I always give Garrett, I get on him about
Speaker 1: this because he doesn't know the condition of his team.
Speaker 1: He should have seen the condition of his defense was
Speaker 1: in a good in a good way. It's a good
Speaker 1: point like we Yeah, you can talk about Green Bay
Speaker 1: where you need to be. You need to see that
Speaker 1: your defense. Defense can't get a stop at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. They were up to yesterday, there were
Speaker 1: Sunday they were That's what I'm saying. It is a
Speaker 1: head coach. You've got to walk over to the OC
Speaker 1: or click over and say hey, we need a touchdown now.
Speaker 1: Civil civil question. You know, if they were to kick
Speaker 1: from the three yard line. How how far would that
Speaker 1: field goal would have been? Twenty yards? Twenty yards? You
Speaker 1: had twenty one yards? What was the miss or yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah if yeah, for you had a thirty four one
Speaker 1: and a forty eight both. Because Brides was saying, hey, Nate,
Speaker 1: you hey, they still miss the field goal. I said, well, Bridess,
Speaker 1: now you're kicking the field goal extra fourteen fifteen yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that could have been a difference. Man,
Speaker 1: if you'd just say, hey, man, we ain't running the ball,
Speaker 1: let's just kick this field goal and we'll truck go
Speaker 1: for on side, right. I mean, it's just it's just
Speaker 1: too many scenarios that favors the Cowboys taking a chance
Speaker 1: and dominating this game and taking them just too many
Speaker 1: chance as they had. We the coach likes to talk
Speaker 1: about putting players in players in positions to make plays.
Speaker 1: We'll do it. Then be that guy, you know, if
Speaker 1: you if you, if you're gonna put put your running
Speaker 1: back in a position and make play well. And also
Speaker 1: the thing that gets me about it is, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: the way the look was RPO. All right, you go
Speaker 1: to a pass read, I got it. But how many
Speaker 1: times have We seen them line up on fourth and
Speaker 1: one they did in Oakland, even without Zeke in the game,
Speaker 1: and say, we don't care. Yeah, our offensive line is
Speaker 1: gonna move the pile. And that's what they do with
Speaker 1: Zeke in the lineup. What ze got the lineup they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't care if you're paying your offensive line the
Speaker 1: money they are. And I mean, I know Tyron wasn't
Speaker 1: in there, but Zach and Travis were. And you're you're
Speaker 1: you're paying your running back a lot top four money,
Speaker 1: five four point five five million dollars a year. Just
Speaker 1: do it like that's I could I could picture it
Speaker 1: with Crystal clarity. Jason Garrett said, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to run in those situations like this is the NFL. Well,
Speaker 1: you supposedly have the best in the business in that
Speaker 1: type of You created doubt in the quarterback's mind on
Speaker 1: the throw because what you did was on the RPO.
Speaker 1: The best RPOs they've had this year have been with
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. Who Jason Witton or Beasley? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: Witton stays in the block. Yeah, Witton's block, and now
Speaker 1: you got Beasley. So what you did was, though, where
Speaker 1: the where the safety was where the safety was playing.
Speaker 1: He said even in the post game, he said that
Speaker 1: the read wasn't clean. He didn't he had doubt and
Speaker 1: why even create doubt in his mind? See take the
Speaker 1: doubt away. That's the other thing. Okay, it's hard to
Speaker 1: run down by the goal line, probably pretty hard to
Speaker 1: throw down there with it'll get Beasley did a great
Speaker 1: job getting open. The problem Earl Thomas is playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you get a guy flashes right for your
Speaker 1: face on the read. The Frank Clark goes so far
Speaker 1: down inside and now there's the linebacker standing right there,
Speaker 1: so he's not gonna be able. Prescott's not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to run the ball. You know, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to run it in like we've seen him
Speaker 1: before off the read option stuff. And now you've got
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas standing in the middle there in the in
Speaker 1: those lines of sight. So you've created doubt. To me,
Speaker 1: what's the most simple thing to do? Hand the ball
Speaker 1: to Zeke, Let everybody far off the ball and try
Speaker 1: and score. It's been a theme for this year, I
Speaker 1: think is outsmarting yourself. That's what I'm saying. This was
Speaker 1: a time you didn't need to outsmart yourself. You know,
Speaker 1: if you want to look cute and all that on
Speaker 1: National TV Game of the Week and all that, do
Speaker 1: it when you're up by fourteen. Do it when you're
Speaker 1: up by seventeen. That's not a time to be cute.
Speaker 1: That's a time to go get the touchdown. Let's let's
Speaker 1: take it. Let's keep as much time on the clock
Speaker 1: as we can get the points. And our defense is
Speaker 1: playing out of their mind. That's a bad play call
Speaker 1: by Scott Linehan because he should know what the defense
Speaker 1: is doing. He gets points there, he gets a touchdown there,
Speaker 1: He's like, damn, I'm gonna get this ball back. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get this ball back with a chance to win
Speaker 1: one nineteen with how many minutes to play? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: did you see on film? What our receivers? Man? What
Speaker 1: did you see? Because what did you see? I said
Speaker 1: this morning on Twitter, this quarterback does not have faith
Speaker 1: throwing a contested ball. He really doesn't, you know. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they were covered every single play,
Speaker 1: but he's just not going to throw a contested ball.
Speaker 1: He's seen it clang up in the air too many times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, well, Dak's got this problem. Dak is not perfect.
Speaker 1: He's a second year quarterback. He's got a lot of
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of faults. But he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of good things about him too. The mobility, the toughness,
Speaker 1: the willingness to try and make plays. Is his mechanics good. No,
Speaker 1: we talk about that. The coordinators try and make him
Speaker 1: play from the pocket. Yeah, he's played well from the
Speaker 1: pocket at times. But you you his receivers. You know,
Speaker 1: if if he's got no confidence in throwing a tight
Speaker 1: window ball, he's not going to throw anybody open. You know,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. It's a big problem. There's no separation there.
Speaker 1: He throws a ball, he throws a ball to to
Speaker 1: Brian in the flats and eight yard game, he gets
Speaker 1: punched out. Here's a ball inside mean to Terence Williams.
Speaker 1: Actually made a couple of plays where he had some
Speaker 1: good routes, a couple where where he was able to
Speaker 1: separate and gets that's what you gotta have. Ball was
Speaker 1: a little high a couple time Terrence was able to adjust.
Speaker 1: But to throw a contested ball with these guys, every
Speaker 1: time it's happened, he's been punished. M that's a problem.
Speaker 1: He's not an accurate quarterback. He's not accurate to I mean, now,
Speaker 1: the biggest problem with him is when he's not throwing
Speaker 1: well on the move. Now you've got issues. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: his game. That is his game. And you talked about
Speaker 1: how they adjust, teams adjusted against him without Zeke in
Speaker 1: the lineup. Zeke comes back, maybe you get some of
Speaker 1: that boot waggle stuff going a little bit. Seattle did
Speaker 1: a good job of taking that away. Yeah, well, ball
Speaker 1: he threw, he threw a ball, he threw a contested ball.
Speaker 1: He booted to the right, threw a contested ball to
Speaker 1: Noah Brown on the sideline. Noah Brown, can you know,
Speaker 1: couldn't come up with it. But the corners all over him.
Speaker 1: There's nothing there. He they bring, they bring Terrence Williams underneath,
Speaker 1: he's covered. I mean, it's you know, the things that
Speaker 1: the things, the strength of his game. When they get
Speaker 1: taken away, then all of a sudden, now you're in
Speaker 1: trouble offensively. So why not why not just hand the
Speaker 1: damn ball off on the goal line and get a score.
Speaker 1: We bring it right back around. No, but that's what
Speaker 1: it really is. See coaches like to say, oh we
Speaker 1: you know, we want to just put our players in
Speaker 1: best positions to make plays. Okay, if you do call
Speaker 1: a successful play, or you do call a play that
Speaker 1: should work and the players aren't doing it, then that's something.
Speaker 1: That's something because that's that that happens. But but but this,
Speaker 1: this was inexcusable on the goal line because your defense
Speaker 1: was playing well enough to win that football game. You
Speaker 1: could have got to stop, you could have got a
Speaker 1: ball back. Heck, maybe maybe they punt it to you,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, switcher get you twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five yards on a return. Now you're now you're in business.
Speaker 1: You didn't even give it. You didn't even give yourself
Speaker 1: a chance. How do you feel about the way Zeke
Speaker 1: ran overall leading up to that series. I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was in great shape. Myself started off fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but do you think it's the game war on? I
Speaker 1: think I think he got you ever see Elliott come
Speaker 1: off the field football shape? Yeah, he's not running sands all.
Speaker 1: You can run sand dunes, you can get out of
Speaker 1: hour doesn't and run the sand was about a side
Speaker 1: hitting you. Yeah, it's a different story. I thought ball
Speaker 1: shape was. That's like he was nice physical shape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it looked good, but football shape. No,
Speaker 1: how many carries? Twenty six? Is that what we said?
Speaker 1: I think so I didn't bring my stats. I think
Speaker 1: I say that that's what I thought it would get.
Speaker 1: Game I was sending everybody said he about twenty six
Speaker 1: cares and people like, man, I give it to him
Speaker 1: thirty twenty four for ninety seven he had eleven. As
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Dave, in the first quarter, he wasn't even
Speaker 1: probably playing this week. Well that's another we could have
Speaker 1: next segment. What happened next week? Nah? Would but maybe not.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're out for six weeks, maybe you're
Speaker 1: not in football shape. I thought I thought he was good.
Speaker 1: I thought he I would saying he's bad. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: though it looked like how many times did he kind
Speaker 1: of take himself out of the out of the game? Honest, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I hadn't really thought about this un till
Speaker 1: we start talking about and no, no, in the second
Speaker 1: half at least two or three times at least that
Speaker 1: it's not like but it's not but six weeks off
Speaker 1: and what twenty eight total carries? I'm not going to
Speaker 1: kill him for that. And you should. But they should
Speaker 1: have handed to him again one more time down on
Speaker 1: the goal line. How how similar is this game to
Speaker 1: to that Giant's game to open the season, with the
Speaker 1: difference being that the Cowboys didn't gift the Giants twenty
Speaker 1: one points. He was a shop or running at first.
Speaker 1: It was tough running for Zeke. I think he finished
Speaker 1: with one oh weight he had. His long on the
Speaker 1: day was probably eleven. Dak had accuracy issues, couldn't get
Speaker 1: on the same page with Dez. They goofed at the
Speaker 1: goal line and had to settle for how many field
Speaker 1: goals did they kick in that game? It's nineteen. I
Speaker 1: think they've kicked four field goals and scored a touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds a lot like what we watched on Sunday, except
Speaker 1: that they didn't goof the hell up and give them
Speaker 1: basically fourteen easy, very easy points. It's just just inconsistent
Speaker 1: and inefficient across the board. I know, we keep going
Speaker 1: back to this last series and it's a huge one
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter or the one in question down
Speaker 1: around the goal line. But you know, you start in
Speaker 1: the first quarter and you look at the way Zeke
Speaker 1: was running. Yeah, it was it was their third series
Speaker 1: where they first got a field goal to go up
Speaker 1: three zero five yards, six yards, six yards, four yards,
Speaker 1: five yards. I mean, it was like he was killing them.
Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, they're not gonna stop him. And
Speaker 1: it felt like at some point these five yard runs
Speaker 1: we're going to turn in the second half, turn into
Speaker 1: eight nine, maybe breaks a big one. But never had
Speaker 1: that opportunity. No, not really. But we're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: that goal line play at the end and that that
Speaker 1: first scoring drive at the start of the second quarter.
Speaker 1: They get to the eighteen yard line of Seattle and
Speaker 1: they go empty and they throw two passes and wind
Speaker 1: up with a field goal. So I mean, if you
Speaker 1: want a second guest play calling, you can look at
Speaker 1: that one too. I guess the other well, the other
Speaker 1: thing that's funny there is and it feels like it
Speaker 1: happens every week for one reason or another. And I
Speaker 1: can hear Jason are talking about it is like, you know,
Speaker 1: the circumstances dictate what you do, so you go empty,
Speaker 1: you kick that field goal. Next time you get the ball,
Speaker 1: Deaz loses the ball on the first down or second down,
Speaker 1: whatever it was. That's a whole possession where Zeke's not
Speaker 1: playing a role. Yeah, then you get the ball back
Speaker 1: and you're in a two minute situation and you're minimizing
Speaker 1: Zeke just because of the circumstances of the game. So
Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons, you've taken your best player
Speaker 1: out of most of the second quarter after featuring him
Speaker 1: for the entire nose. Right. The shame of it all
Speaker 1: is the shame of it all is we're still waiting
Speaker 1: I want to receive to make a serious play. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: two big your two chunk players, we're both pis. That
Speaker 1: was your best offense for a large stretch there, and
Speaker 1: that was Dak running and throwing for Hope because yeah,
Speaker 1: and it got to the point in the late in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter was like, okay, you need something at
Speaker 1: that final drive, just chuck it up because they're calling
Speaker 1: that flag. But hey, Nate, to your point, yes, did
Speaker 1: get a big thirty three yard completion. Yeah, on the
Speaker 1: crossing route them up. What happened on the next play exactly.
Speaker 1: That's that's been the issue with this offense, is just
Speaker 1: that consistency part of it is uh and out. You
Speaker 1: could say Dak couldn't throw a great ball but it
Speaker 1: was two hands with Dez and Argue should have caught
Speaker 1: the pass. My issue is this, we got receivers and
Speaker 1: and and I don't know what Sanu is. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the guy for Atlanta is, the second team
Speaker 1: guy for Atlanta, Uh, the second Mohammed Sanou Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: your two. And then behind Jones. Yeah, yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: another guy that uh Cincinnati. They let both of these
Speaker 1: guys go. Yeah. Uh, and I think he plays for Detroit.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, Marvin Jones. You don't when you're
Speaker 1: number two receiver, one thing you don't do is dropped
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, that's you know, because you're taking advantage
Speaker 1: of single coverage. Now my my question, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find some answers. Did you see a lot of doubling
Speaker 1: and it gets out of received? Was this past game?
Speaker 1: Was they with they did? Okay? Okay, so what was Williams?
Speaker 1: Wis Williams See Williams I didn't think was terrible? He
Speaker 1: was he was all right a couple first down if so.
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm trying to figure out. Was the quarterback
Speaker 1: just that bad quarterback wasn't good? Okay, So let's let's
Speaker 1: be honest, here, what option really is Terrence Williams in
Speaker 1: this offense? Four or five? Is he really a two? No?
Speaker 1: So I'm saying he's if he's your fourth or fifth option? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: well who was it? I'm not trying to I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to jump out no, no, I'm a great with you.
Speaker 1: Then Okay, that's and I'm trying to find answers. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: if he's if he's the fourth option, who was the
Speaker 1: second option behind? This is probably probably Beasley or what happened.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. See, that's exactly right. I'm through with it.
Speaker 1: Is Dad's gray. It's this crab who who needs to
Speaker 1: be the guy? Who needs? Who needs to? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying if we look at the one one
Speaker 1: guy and it's taken away that you can't cover everybody.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is you have to
Speaker 1: be an athlete at some point and say I'm getting over,
Speaker 1: I'm getting over. Yeah, I'm making this play for my quarterback.
Speaker 1: Because Tony Romo wasn't fortunate enough, he had to learn
Speaker 1: with subpar receivers. Yeah, then once he learned, he helped
Speaker 1: his receivers. Now it's time for our receivers who's been
Speaker 1: here for four years, three four. Now it's time for
Speaker 1: you to help the young quarterback by by some time,
Speaker 1: not all the time, but by sometime catching some of
Speaker 1: these passes. Fair point name this can be. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is little big picture for two days after Week sixteen,
Speaker 1: we're not even technically done with the season. But that's
Speaker 1: that's a baffling. That's a puzzle that this team has
Speaker 1: to figure out. Because I can look everywhere else on
Speaker 1: this team and I can kind of come to a
Speaker 1: really logical conclusion about what they need to do. All right,
Speaker 1: Your your linebacker depth was really tested this year. You
Speaker 1: need you need to sign if you want to resign
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins or draft a guy or bring in a
Speaker 1: free agent. You know, Uh, your your defensive linemen that
Speaker 1: have had successful seasons are coming up on contracts. You
Speaker 1: gotta tag them. You gotta figure out what you want
Speaker 1: to do with David Irving. Put a tender on him.
Speaker 1: You're gonna let him go for a draft pick. You're
Speaker 1: gonna bring him back. All that's really easy. Uh, You're
Speaker 1: you're running back. He had a suspension, he's he's been
Speaker 1: overly scrutinized by the league. You're one strike away from
Speaker 1: big problems. You're one of your running backs is a
Speaker 1: free agent. All right, you need to figure that out.
Speaker 1: All of this is really easy. Look at your wide receivers.
Speaker 1: All of them are are under contract for good money.
Speaker 1: There there's not an easy way away from any of them.
Speaker 1: And yet I think we can all agree that that
Speaker 1: that's a problem spot for this team. Right. I don't
Speaker 1: think Terence Williams was terrible in this game. He wasn't
Speaker 1: four targets for catches forty four yards, no, five yards.
Speaker 1: He wasn't terrible. I mean, is he was? That it
Speaker 1: was a problem I think lives that if if he's
Speaker 1: the best performance among your he was better than your one.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If that, if four for forty
Speaker 1: four is the best day of your receivers, that's what's
Speaker 1: not good. See that's that's that's the Nate's point. I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you it comes a point where you as a coaching
Speaker 1: staff for scout and staff, Hey you got every team
Speaker 1: Locke for Seattle. What's the other kid? Is? No his
Speaker 1: main receiver? Can't? I mean, I promise you and I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. But when Seattle has had a little
Speaker 1: bit better offensive line, ballwin has came up. B Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he's had a little bit better well, we got
Speaker 1: a little bit better offensive line with a young quarterback.
Speaker 1: And we have not had a serious thread for twenty
Speaker 1: one games, twenty two games, we've not had a serious thread. No,
Speaker 1: and everybody expected Zeke to come in and return from
Speaker 1: suspension and make everything better and it wasn't. At twelve points,
Speaker 1: four field goals for Dan Bailey, I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna help the OC, and the OC didn't take the help. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really didn't. Didn't work out all right, let's take
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Speaker 1: had a great holiday. Wasn't the best Christmas Eve result
Speaker 1: you could ask for if you're a Cowboys fan. But well,
Speaker 1: let's check in with the film's up, Brian, I'm laughing
Speaker 1: at Dave's watch. I looked at it. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not set Claw, it's not set a new watch. It
Speaker 1: is a new watch. It's not set. Did you just
Speaker 1: like put it out of the box on your wrist?
Speaker 1: I just grabbed it out of my addresser on my
Speaker 1: way to work and didn't think of one more segment.
Speaker 1: I looked at at Dave's watch. It, I grabbed it
Speaker 1: and I put it on and I went to work,
Speaker 1: and I didn't even think about the fact that it's
Speaker 1: what movie was you watching before you left the house?
Speaker 1: Friday at thirteenth? Why would I be watching Friday? Grab
Speaker 1: a shirt with Jason? What's going on here? Everybody? I'm sorry, Dad,
Speaker 1: I just at the time and I looked down just
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to look at my one, Bob,
Speaker 1: you shake? What the sixteen? Wait? But when you buy
Speaker 1: a new watch, do you have to set the time?
Speaker 1: Or do they you usually have to set? He got
Speaker 1: his fresh out of the box. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You didn't get his stocking stuff for it, and he
Speaker 1: just didn't even You know what happened is I wore
Speaker 1: the last time I wore this was in Oakland and
Speaker 1: it was set to California time, and I hadn't touched
Speaker 1: it since, and now I put it on without thinking
Speaker 1: about it. Okay? Is that okay? But it wasn't even
Speaker 1: close to California time. Yeah, it says midnight right now?
Speaker 1: It it was? It was at ten o'clock, right, and
Speaker 1: it's twelve here, it's twelve fifteen. Whatever? Why are we
Speaker 1: doing this? I just I was just because I didn't
Speaker 1: want to look at my watch, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to look down at my watch, so I thought
Speaker 1: I'd just look at yours. And then that's lazy. That's
Speaker 1: that's what you just say. It was to look at
Speaker 1: your own watch instead of mine. How about that? You
Speaker 1: know what? Nates? You know Nates though, Nates the guy.
Speaker 1: It's got a twenty five thousand dollars watch and looks
Speaker 1: at his phone for the time. He just worse than
Speaker 1: me looking at the guys watch across what I feel like,
Speaker 1: that's what we all do now. I feel like watches
Speaker 1: are just decorated. It's yeah, it's an accessory. It's an accessory.
Speaker 1: I don't look at this thing to tell time. I
Speaker 1: just didn't want to be rude and look at my
Speaker 1: watch in front of you. Well, you got the TV's
Speaker 1: cut off because you sit in a stare at the
Speaker 1: TV's that's rude. And they got a show to do.
Speaker 1: At least. I don't look at my phone. Staff do that. Well,
Speaker 1: that being said, we still got we're a bunch of
Speaker 1: haters right now. I just checked the time. We got teams,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go for it. I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Didn't mean to draw your off side. Oh you're good man.
Speaker 1: We still got a call Kent who we got online? Yeah? Nick,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Hey guys. A long time listener, first time caller,
Speaker 1: uh Brian the NFL A Shirley Strange, Lady Nate A
Speaker 1: happy played birthday. One of my favorite all time fair
Speaker 1: players all time. Um Yester or the other day. It
Speaker 1: was definitely a heartbreaking law. I feel like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: they've you know, they've done this past a few seasons
Speaker 1: where when they're when they're on, they're really on, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they just go out there and lay an egg
Speaker 1: and they they were definitely they're definitely a better team
Speaker 1: than than Seattle Seahawks. I'm not I'm not looking for
Speaker 1: the head coach to be fired. Um, you know, both
Speaker 1: coordinators are really good. I think Mary Nellie gets all
Speaker 1: all that he can out of the guys, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, for the offensive coordinator, they can go on
Speaker 1: there and put up thirty points and then uh, you know,
Speaker 1: other games they just they just don't show up. But
Speaker 1: I'm really disappointed with with dead this season. You know,
Speaker 1: when when he's having those off games, last last game
Speaker 1: is pretty much just shut down on the on the sideline,
Speaker 1: and you know, we've all wanted him to be the
Speaker 1: next Michael Irvin and uh, I was kind of disappointed
Speaker 1: down his motivation. I was hoping that he'd be pumping
Speaker 1: up the guys and getting everybody back into it. Um.
Speaker 1: So I think that the team really needs to look
Speaker 1: at a new number one and Ternson Williams after he
Speaker 1: catches the ball, He's got to keep moving. He catches
Speaker 1: the ball, kind of looked at the marker and then
Speaker 1: he goes down. He needs he needs to keep it,
Speaker 1: keep it moving to his yards after yards after the catch,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'll hang up and listen. Thanks guys, Thanks Nick,
Speaker 1: thanks for holding in. By the way, he brought up
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett just wanted to point out Jerry on the
Speaker 1: fan this morning. Reiterated Jason quote his job is not
Speaker 1: an issue here at all. End quote. So Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: will be back. I know there was speculation maybe Jerry
Speaker 1: would look at a head coaching change. Not gonna happen,
Speaker 1: but he mentioned he covered a lot of ground there.
Speaker 1: He covered Dez, he covered Terrence Williams. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that's that's about as complimentary as I could expect a
Speaker 1: fan call to be bait. Like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: y'all's mentions have looked like the last two days. Mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're trying to they're trying to fire the security guards
Speaker 1: here at the Star my mentions, so yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know where to start with that. I mean, job status
Speaker 1: is what it is. I do. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: reading between the lines. Jerry Jones has twice now said
Speaker 1: that Jason that he feels good about Jason Garrett. He
Speaker 1: has not extended that confidence to any other coach on
Speaker 1: the staff. He has not said, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: good about this guy or that guy, or I like
Speaker 1: where our offense or our defense is YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: So you know, you can read between the lines with
Speaker 1: that if you want to. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. But I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if there's some type of change on the coaching
Speaker 1: staff at some point in the next few weeks. I
Speaker 1: think naturally they'll be changed, and that's just the nature
Speaker 1: of the business. Yeah, you have guys that are currently
Speaker 1: it will be not under contract. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get into names and stuff, but I do know for
Speaker 1: a factors six or seven guys right now they're in
Speaker 1: the last year of their deal. And again it's something
Speaker 1: that the you know, the organization doesn't speculate about it
Speaker 1: and or talk about contracts, and so I don't feel
Speaker 1: it's my place too that, but I do know that
Speaker 1: there are several guys I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: there's turnover. I don't know if he'll come from the
Speaker 1: coordinator spot. Yeah, but several of the position coaches are
Speaker 1: in that mode right now where they do. They're in
Speaker 1: the last year of their contract, and it might naturally
Speaker 1: be a way of the team saying, okay, we want
Speaker 1: to move on. Just give an example. We want to
Speaker 1: move on from wide receiver. We want to move on
Speaker 1: from defensive back, we want to move on from linebacker.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's others. There's ways to move on, you know,
Speaker 1: with could just because of naturally the contracts not being there.
Speaker 1: So I do think there's gonna be some changes. I
Speaker 1: think there's I think this when we get to next week.
Speaker 1: This time next week, there'll be a lot of coaches
Speaker 1: around the league. Oh yeah, so back Monday. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will be able to say, Okay, what coach you
Speaker 1: know from another team, does Jason Garrett, you know who
Speaker 1: fits this? Who fits that? And then you can go
Speaker 1: from there. Be laughing about over there, Nathaniel, because I
Speaker 1: believe this. If a player can't get open, our player
Speaker 1: can't do this, there's no doubt about that. A player
Speaker 1: can't do his job, you get rid of a player.
Speaker 1: If a player needs help and getting open and being
Speaker 1: who he needs to beat. As the coach's job. Get
Speaker 1: Das Bryant who me. Yeah, I don't know what they
Speaker 1: do with Das, but I do know this right here
Speaker 1: that you can't repeat what just happened this season. I agree,
Speaker 1: you can't slept himself. He's his his his performance this
Speaker 1: year has left himself open. You can't that for that
Speaker 1: for that question, absolutely, and that that happens. But you
Speaker 1: can say about a lot of guys that that happens
Speaker 1: anytime in football. I mean, that's that's the business of
Speaker 1: the league. Is here. Because he's been hurt, yep, Okay,
Speaker 1: it quite impossible. But do you judge just performance off
Speaker 1: of okay, because the last few years he's been hurt.
Speaker 1: So okay, he had a down year, but the second
Speaker 1: your quarterback. Yeah, so you blame it on on on
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But let me say this right here, just
Speaker 1: because this is what I do believe, is you either
Speaker 1: expand your route tree and be a better receiving and
Speaker 1: plus catch the ball. Are you becomes you become a
Speaker 1: role player. Role Players don't make twelve point five million nullus.
Speaker 1: Role players don't make that and It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're either you're either overperforming a cheap contract or underperforming
Speaker 1: a big contract. In the NFL, like how many guys
Speaker 1: are just like adequately paid and nobody really thinks about it.
Speaker 1: Tony Brown, Yeah, no, that's fair. Do you worry about
Speaker 1: paying the Marcus Lawrence? Am I worried? Like am I
Speaker 1: worried about their ability to do it? Worry about handing
Speaker 1: him seventeen million dollars on a franchise? Tach? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: really one year guaranteed one year. Who's been more consistent
Speaker 1: to earn their contract? Dez or de Marcus Lawrence over
Speaker 1: the course of the year or this year? I mean,
Speaker 1: just to get the big deal. Now, now you could
Speaker 1: probably I didn't use Tyrn Crawford because that's that's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a different that's a different that's a
Speaker 1: different oversation. I mean, the resume that does put up
Speaker 1: to earn that contract is far superior. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: talking about four years worth. Were blaming him or we
Speaker 1: blaming the quarterback for him? I think, like I think,
Speaker 1: as with everything else in football, it goes hand in
Speaker 1: hand a little bit. I mean, I think would be
Speaker 1: a better player with a more veteran confident quarterback, like
Speaker 1: a Tony Romo, And I think when they signed that deal,
Speaker 1: they expected him to have Tony Romo for two or
Speaker 1: three more years, and he got two games. I think
Speaker 1: that's worth pointing out. But then I look at it
Speaker 1: at the same time, and I think about New York
Speaker 1: when Dak put it right on his face mask and
Speaker 1: it went right between his hands, And I think about
Speaker 1: Sunday when they were down near the red zone, and
Speaker 1: I don't care if it wasn't a perfectly thrown ball.
Speaker 1: Go find the screen cap where it bounces off both
Speaker 1: of his hands. Yeah, we're making twelve in his hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: both hands plural with an S like I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it wasn't a well thrown ball. Catch
Speaker 1: the ball. Jeff has the same thing. Okay, you can
Speaker 1: say that this quarterback for Philadelphia is better than Dak,
Speaker 1: that's fine, But Ashanz, jeffers to me, is Daz He's
Speaker 1: catching the ball, brother, which, well, all right, go back
Speaker 1: one year. Was anybody Dez did not have a year
Speaker 1: that measured up of that type of contract, But was
Speaker 1: anybody killing him for it? He had what fifty receptions
Speaker 1: for seven hundred, eight hundred yards and eight touchdowns. It's
Speaker 1: a couple of games, three games, I think, and was
Speaker 1: he was a deep threat. He had big gains against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: He had big gains against Minnesota. It was his last
Speaker 1: hundred yard game right this year. I think he went
Speaker 1: for one hundred in the playoffs, didn't he? And I'll
Speaker 1: say this, to some degree, no straight games, and to
Speaker 1: some degree, when Zeke is the focal point of your offense,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at number receiver numbers a little differently.
Speaker 1: He knows he's been a running offense. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's my point is he did not
Speaker 1: have having none of this. He did not have mind
Speaker 1: boggling come out last year. Last year, let me hear it,
Speaker 1: doesn't it comes? Doesn't it come? Become a point though,
Speaker 1: where your number is called and you are that guy
Speaker 1: and we're saying, we're saying the same thing, saying the
Speaker 1: same thing last year. He was not putting up those
Speaker 1: types of numbers to justify that money, but you felt
Speaker 1: that it was still worth it because within the framework
Speaker 1: of the offense, he made plays when he was called
Speaker 1: upon all that he didn't drop obvious catch at all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, and then this year it just
Speaker 1: it hasn't looked anything like he is. He getting paid
Speaker 1: for an offense that isn't suited to his talents. But
Speaker 1: that's my point. It's not but he made it work
Speaker 1: last year. Nobody felt bad about Dez. Last year. I
Speaker 1: thought everything combined between the rookie quarterback, between the injury,
Speaker 1: between the style of offense they wanted to run. I
Speaker 1: thought he was solid, like he was a good number
Speaker 1: one receiver. He gave you a big play threat. He
Speaker 1: made big plays when they called his number. He hasn't
Speaker 1: done that this year. He's right though, I mean when
Speaker 1: your numbers call, go make a play. I mean he's right,
Speaker 1: He's yeah, And you look at the game. Would you
Speaker 1: agree with would you agree with me that the difference
Speaker 1: between even last year and this year is like night
Speaker 1: and day. Oh yeah, it doesn't even look like the
Speaker 1: same player. Like last year, he looked like Dez in
Speaker 1: an offense that wasn't suited for him. Right now, he
Speaker 1: just I don't know what he is. He's It's been
Speaker 1: a terrible year across the board. Let's one more call
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. Kent, Hello, Kent. Hello,
Speaker 1: who we got? Go ahead, Brian Ken Who do we got? Brian?
Speaker 1: What's up right there? Hey? Sorry about that. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: a preas you're talking with gentleman today. I just I
Speaker 1: wanted to say a quick thing to a Cowboys nation
Speaker 1: because I know Dave kind of mentioned that, you know,
Speaker 1: your Twitter mentioned are um looking pretty you know, dumpster
Speaker 1: fiery lately? Um? And I just wanted to say, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's one thing to take a game so seriously
Speaker 1: that we that you know that we had the other
Speaker 1: day and that was an awful game. It's terrible. But
Speaker 1: you know, just consider this, Consider how great it is
Speaker 1: that all these people have the luxury of being upset
Speaker 1: over a football game. You know a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the world don't have that privilege, that don't have
Speaker 1: that luxury. So that's um, you know, that's someth and
Speaker 1: definitely to consider UM in the relative scheme of things,
Speaker 1: for sure. So it's a season and all that. For that,
Speaker 1: thank you. My question is what would be your preference
Speaker 1: for the first round pick wide receiver, linebacker, Rollklan Smith,
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. You know what, what would you guys look
Speaker 1: at the strongest at the first round and I'll hang
Speaker 1: up and listen. Thank you, guys. One days to the
Speaker 1: draft week. The age old question. You want to make
Speaker 1: that call in one minute? You don't want to name
Speaker 1: the first round pick. Well, it's that's what I tried
Speaker 1: to get into a minute ago. Is he's trying to
Speaker 1: get a position. I didn't. I didn't want to believe
Speaker 1: wide receiver was that big of a need. And I
Speaker 1: feel like I have to reconsider everything I thought. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's you can't just pinpoint one position four months
Speaker 1: in advance. But what about you picking in right now? Dave?
Speaker 1: I mean I said teen. Uh, I think it's technically
Speaker 1: nineteen right now. Okay, depending on what happened, you're on
Speaker 1: the cusp. N you can't be out ate here. You
Speaker 1: can't climb any higher than about sixteen. Yeah, okay, hear
Speaker 1: me out on this one. If you sit there in
Speaker 1: the nineteenth hole, you're on the cusp of not getting
Speaker 1: a first round player. Yeah, you're on the very edge
Speaker 1: of getting And I've only done about twenty five guys
Speaker 1: right now in terms of grades first round grades, and
Speaker 1: this group traditionally will have between eighteen and twenty two
Speaker 1: guys on that board. If it's you're right on the cusp,
Speaker 1: but not getting a first round guy. If it's me,
Speaker 1: I've been saying linebacker in safety for a month, and
Speaker 1: I think you have to throw a wide receiver into
Speaker 1: that mix at this point, having seen what we've seen,
Speaker 1: is that does that sound about right? Look at the
Speaker 1: look at the issues. Look at the issues you have
Speaker 1: at linebacker. You have to look at Shaun Lee's health.
Speaker 1: You have to look at Jalen Smith. What's his health situation? Yea,
Speaker 1: And you're likely not and Anti Hitchins is likely gone.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to draft linebackers here. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: can't and you get and you've got to make sure
Speaker 1: that you hit on those linebackers. And with the with
Speaker 1: the thing with Smith from Georgia, he's a will linebacker,
Speaker 1: he's an off balls. They can get on the field, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and contribute. I don't I don't care what they are
Speaker 1: as long as but no Mo sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: for eight, nine, ten games. Taccoy, our guy, our guys
Speaker 1: played pretty well the last two or three weeks. Though.
Speaker 1: That's because they're letting him play. Yeah, they're letting him play,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, let the guys play man, You
Speaker 1: don't they these they did these these corners in safety,
Speaker 1: those guys out there, Yep, they sure did. The one
Speaker 1: guy they really didn't let play is is Switzer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Surprised by that. Aside from returns offensively a lot they
Speaker 1: had him that they wasn't gonna take the tight end
Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it comes down
Speaker 1: to a lot of times. Right. So you're saying linebacker.
Speaker 1: Just I want a firm answer from you. Yeah, no, linebacker,
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, you look at the position, but
Speaker 1: you you made a good argument for wide receivers, so
Speaker 1: didn't Nate? You know, you made you very I think.
Speaker 1: But the problem is you've got you've got guys that
Speaker 1: are contractually tied to you. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do about that. Yeah, they have a position, they can
Speaker 1: help us. I'm tired of getting one injury and we
Speaker 1: we can't play. I mean, we missed one player and
Speaker 1: we can't play. Nate's going best available. Just play him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: help this team win immediately, so when we have an injury,
Speaker 1: we won't. We lost Sean Lee and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we're putting up the biggest bill boll Hey, well, you
Speaker 1: know what, we don't want to have the team without
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. Oh we got this guy back. Oh, but
Speaker 1: we're missing Tyron. Come on, man, you mentioned to Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence and I will say he's back. I mean, whether
Speaker 1: it's a franchise tag, whether it's an extension, you've got
Speaker 1: to bring him back. Do you think that's worth it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I don't know, if you have
Speaker 1: so many tacos, Taco, don't do that. I see what
Speaker 1: you're doing. You're doing seventeen million dollars. So what else
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You're gonna tag him. Finally, you finally
Speaker 1: have a pass rush that is at least respectable, if
Speaker 1: not outright good, arguably your best defensive player this year.
Speaker 1: You're talent well, I mean sure, blinding him long term?
Speaker 1: Figure that out. I don't know. I'll figure that out.
Speaker 1: Just but you can't. Nobody hates offseason talking more than Nate.
Speaker 1: It just bothers me that you got, you got where
Speaker 1: we got. We need a team for once, for three
Speaker 1: years where we just don't have. Everybody heard these guys taggle. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: let's part your game. War of attrition, Nate. That's how
Speaker 1: I understand that, but some teams get fortunate. What it's
Speaker 1: a war of attrition. Hey, yeah, tell you this though, Nate,
Speaker 1: a bunch of Philadelphia. They might have won home field,
Speaker 1: but nobody's scared going up there and playing. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: nobody go up there. Yeah, what we're gonna be doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna up there. We're going up there. But nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody's scared play with that quarterback. Yeah. If ever there
Speaker 1: was a year where sneaking in as the six might
Speaker 1: have worked out, that would have been worked out. Fine.
Speaker 1: It was all set up too and it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: On Christmas Eve, Cowboys lose. They're out of the playoff contention.
Speaker 1: We do go to Philly one more game. Cheese steaks
Speaker 1: for everyone. That's the plan. Thanks for everybody for joining us.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Nate, Dave, Brian Kent producing. We'll get back
Speaker 1: to our normal shows on Wednesday. See then, have a
Speaker 1: cheese steak.