1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Mike Rainbow. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,918 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: coy Or. 10 00:00:48,278 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 11 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 12 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:54,359 Speaker 4: Good to be home. 13 00:00:54,639 --> 00:00:55,679 Speaker 2: Good to see you, guys. 14 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 15 00:01:00,639 --> 00:01:03,239 Speaker 2: Freddy Chick, here it comes. Okay, bring him in. We're 16 00:01:03,279 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: not going to take a break. 17 00:01:04,039 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 3: Should we play the music? 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:05,519 Speaker 4: We'll just do a lot. 19 00:01:05,719 --> 00:01:09,078 Speaker 2: Just bring them right in. People experience the awkwardness, yeah, 20 00:01:09,119 --> 00:01:14,439 Speaker 2: in real time. Just bring them right in. Don't be nervous. 21 00:01:14,598 --> 00:01:15,038 Speaker 2: Let's go. 22 00:01:15,759 --> 00:01:16,159 Speaker 3: Let's go. 23 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:18,079 Speaker 4: You've done before doing it. 24 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:24,798 Speaker 2: I love it all right, let's go sit down, Sit down. 25 00:01:27,279 --> 00:01:30,118 Speaker 2: How many cameras do we need? We have cameras everywhere. 26 00:01:31,279 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: What okay, I've been billing you as the professional ballbuster 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 3: and of course you come in shooting. I love it. 28 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 2: It's great. I love it. I tell a story when uh, 29 00:01:43,199 --> 00:01:47,359 Speaker 2: it's like Golden Girls. But do you remember after the 30 00:01:47,399 --> 00:01:50,759 Speaker 2: Carolina we did that Three Games to Glory too, and 31 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:53,199 Speaker 2: you sat down with I think it was Givens in 32 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:57,079 Speaker 2: Branch and you did the director's cut. Then afterwards, I 33 00:01:57,119 --> 00:01:58,719 Speaker 2: wanted you to look at some stuff you started. Why 34 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:00,079 Speaker 2: did you do this? Why did you do that? Why 35 00:02:00,119 --> 00:02:02,119 Speaker 2: did you do that? You started like you, mister, and 36 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:05,719 Speaker 2: I love that. I oh you did. It was great. 37 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:07,999 Speaker 2: We didn't take any of your advice, but it was fun, 38 00:02:08,159 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: you know. But I like that. I like that about you, 39 00:02:11,839 --> 00:02:13,319 Speaker 2: and I'm sure that you're going to bring a lot 40 00:02:13,358 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: to the table. Uh you know that way, because you. 41 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:18,358 Speaker 3: Would have made it better. But they were a little 42 00:02:18,358 --> 00:02:19,439 Speaker 3: bit too fa we were too far. 43 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:21,599 Speaker 2: In the process. I couldn't take advantage of it. So 44 00:02:21,799 --> 00:02:26,279 Speaker 2: my first question to you is what what what gets 45 00:02:26,279 --> 00:02:28,279 Speaker 2: served at lunch to the new head coach of the 46 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: New England Patriots? 47 00:02:29,119 --> 00:02:29,798 Speaker 4: Chicken salad? 48 00:02:29,839 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: Chicken salad that was in. It was quick, Oh man, 49 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: we could do a little disappointed. 50 00:02:35,119 --> 00:02:39,279 Speaker 4: Nobody along the interview process, somebody asked me what I 51 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 4: dislike about coaching football, and I said, outside of losing, 52 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 4: I would say the abundance of food that's available at 53 00:02:46,999 --> 00:02:52,759 Speaker 4: any given second. It's just like anything that you want treat, snacks, chips, food, 54 00:02:52,839 --> 00:02:56,078 Speaker 4: And I'm like, it's got to stop at some point 55 00:02:56,079 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: in time. It's just like enough to. 56 00:02:57,439 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: Not I hear, because you know that was the bad 57 00:02:59,279 --> 00:03:02,439 Speaker 2: part of the you know well, travel to all the 58 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 2: all the games and the amount of food that gets wasted, 59 00:03:05,399 --> 00:03:09,638 Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. Or eating eating, No, it's it's always there. 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: And I tell people when we first hired and say, 61 00:03:11,758 --> 00:03:14,078 Speaker 2: you don't have to eat everything. You don't have to 62 00:03:14,119 --> 00:03:16,638 Speaker 2: eat everything because they just keep serving it to you. 63 00:03:16,679 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: So I'm like, this is one of our newer members 64 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:18,999 Speaker 3: might do. 65 00:03:19,119 --> 00:03:20,439 Speaker 4: So, who's welcome. 66 00:03:21,359 --> 00:03:23,638 Speaker 2: Do you have your you want to sell you? All right? 67 00:03:23,839 --> 00:03:25,999 Speaker 3: This is one of his first purchases for his newborn 68 00:03:26,079 --> 00:03:29,478 Speaker 3: my son back in the day. He's fourteen sixteen. 69 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:30,478 Speaker 4: He's sixteen now. 70 00:03:32,119 --> 00:03:33,599 Speaker 3: So he's got a little bit of a man. I 71 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 3: would say just that. 72 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:40,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would both wore both wore one of those 73 00:03:40,359 --> 00:03:43,079 Speaker 4: as well. Is he a rookie on this one? 74 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:45,919 Speaker 3: No, he's been here since twenty nineteen. His first playoff 75 00:03:45,959 --> 00:03:47,999 Speaker 3: game with us. You know, Fred and I used to 76 00:03:48,039 --> 00:03:50,719 Speaker 3: just winning titles. His first playoff game, you. 77 00:03:50,559 --> 00:03:52,239 Speaker 4: Beat us, probably to get rid of me, if you 78 00:03:52,279 --> 00:03:53,359 Speaker 4: want to. So this is all. 79 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:55,959 Speaker 3: And then Evan Wlizaar is actually. 80 00:03:57,119 --> 00:03:57,199 Speaker 1: Right. 81 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:01,479 Speaker 2: He's a resident. He said he was going to embarrass. No, 82 00:04:01,719 --> 00:04:05,639 Speaker 2: but seriously, this guy, if you want to just ask him, 83 00:04:05,679 --> 00:04:06,199 Speaker 2: he'll he'll. 84 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:08,439 Speaker 3: Tell you gap or zone. 85 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:14,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you listen to the press conference, I said, 86 00:04:14,359 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 4: I would hope for versatility to be able to be 87 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 4: able to have zone scheme. But then you know, when 88 00:04:19,599 --> 00:04:22,319 Speaker 4: some of those penetrating fronts to be able to have 89 00:04:22,359 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 4: some gap scheme and some double teams at the line 90 00:04:24,719 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 4: of scrimmage, that that it's going to help some of 91 00:04:26,359 --> 00:04:27,079 Speaker 4: that penetration. 92 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:29,959 Speaker 2: And I looked at Evan and he was like, so Evan, 93 00:04:30,239 --> 00:04:32,959 Speaker 2: what what would you what would you recommend? What would 94 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: I recommend? 95 00:04:33,678 --> 00:04:35,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his job, that's not mine. 96 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 2: I'm giving you what what's your favorite run? What's your 97 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: favorite run? 98 00:04:39,799 --> 00:04:40,078 Speaker 4: Oh? 99 00:04:40,119 --> 00:04:43,199 Speaker 2: My favorite run? Power, power, pull the guard. 100 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 4: Down, get downhill, maybe hit a little play action behind 101 00:04:48,919 --> 00:04:52,959 Speaker 4: and everyone what Now? Now, the thing is with Power, 102 00:04:52,999 --> 00:04:54,519 Speaker 4: we got to find a full back or we got 103 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:56,199 Speaker 4: to find a tight end that can move and get 104 00:04:56,239 --> 00:04:59,399 Speaker 4: in some of those movements, but don't disagree with something. 105 00:04:59,479 --> 00:05:01,519 Speaker 2: You bring yak up Johnson back because he can speak 106 00:05:01,558 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: German and that's one of our markets. 107 00:05:03,239 --> 00:05:05,118 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of people down here in Tennessee 108 00:05:05,159 --> 00:05:07,558 Speaker 4: that thought he was was pretty good too. 109 00:05:07,799 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: I like, he's a good guy. 110 00:05:08,958 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna find well, we'll find somebody that can 111 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,118 Speaker 4: do it. 112 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:15,678 Speaker 2: So like it's been a whirlwind, right, uh huh yeah, 113 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:17,959 Speaker 2: I like, have you had a chance to even just 114 00:05:17,999 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 2: think about what's going on? You still know? 115 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: And I think the problem was I had so much 116 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 4: time yesterday to think about it that it was just 117 00:05:23,719 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 4: like text messages coming in and it was almost like 118 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 4: I was paralyzed. I didn't even know where to start 119 00:05:30,159 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 4: to try to respond to anybody that was texting. And 120 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:35,518 Speaker 4: so you know that that's going to take I don't 121 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 4: even know how long. It's just people that have had 122 00:05:37,599 --> 00:05:42,878 Speaker 4: an impact or that we're texting and congratulations and you know, 123 00:05:43,318 --> 00:05:46,199 Speaker 4: the one thing that you know, we this is exciting, 124 00:05:46,239 --> 00:05:48,318 Speaker 4: but we also want to make sure that you know 125 00:05:48,359 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: we have a we have a small circle, and that 126 00:05:51,159 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 4: we have a certain amount of people that we trust 127 00:05:52,958 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 4: and I try to explain that to the players, that 128 00:05:56,359 --> 00:05:58,879 Speaker 4: that nobody texts you when you lose, right, and so 129 00:05:59,318 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: you have a tough loss or a tough game, and 130 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,758 Speaker 4: those people that reach out to you, then I always say, 131 00:06:04,799 --> 00:06:07,399 Speaker 4: when we start winning, you remember who those people were, 132 00:06:07,438 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 4: because the text messages start to go up when you win. 133 00:06:10,999 --> 00:06:13,319 Speaker 4: And so in the request, it's a good reminder that 134 00:06:13,678 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 4: the people that that are there when when you're not 135 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 4: at your best should be the ones that are there 136 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:24,439 Speaker 4: when you're at your best. Yet, no Patriot Place. I'll 137 00:06:25,958 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: stay in a nice hotel when we were here for 138 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,678 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. So I'm sure I'll talked. 139 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 3: A little bit better about Patriot Place nowadays than you 140 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: used to. 141 00:06:32,999 --> 00:06:33,199 Speaker 2: Huh? 142 00:06:33,799 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 4: Is that was that? 143 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:34,639 Speaker 2: Like? 144 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: Did I did I talk negatively about the Patriot way 145 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:42,118 Speaker 4: that he was critical of it? No, it was just 146 00:06:42,958 --> 00:06:46,198 Speaker 4: like it was a different role. Like even Robert and 147 00:06:46,239 --> 00:06:48,038 Speaker 4: I talk about that like that was trying to do 148 00:06:48,159 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 4: my role as a union rep and on the executive committee, 149 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:54,879 Speaker 4: and that was my obligation and now you got to 150 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 4: do different h Yeah. No, but we we're very familiar 151 00:06:59,359 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: with those and all the rules and everything, like you know, 152 00:07:01,719 --> 00:07:02,838 Speaker 4: we're going to do what's best. 153 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:06,118 Speaker 2: For the play you mentioned, you know, helping helping out 154 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:09,398 Speaker 2: you and being there when things aren't good, when things 155 00:07:09,438 --> 00:07:13,278 Speaker 2: are bad. Since you've been gone, my role I run 156 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:16,799 Speaker 2: all the content here, you know, and no, no, I'm 157 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 2: just content has changed in sports and in the NFL 158 00:07:20,159 --> 00:07:23,799 Speaker 2: and as you know, surf Melenda's friends with him back 159 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:25,999 Speaker 2: in Tennessee and the stuff they used to do with you, 160 00:07:26,078 --> 00:07:29,519 Speaker 2: and you know, social media has changed. What what's your 161 00:07:29,599 --> 00:07:32,319 Speaker 2: view of all of that stuff, like players having their 162 00:07:32,359 --> 00:07:35,359 Speaker 2: own social media, players having their own podcasts and all 163 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:40,399 Speaker 2: that stuff. Do you have you know, feelings about that 164 00:07:40,599 --> 00:07:41,078 Speaker 2: or sure? 165 00:07:41,119 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that that's a part of our 166 00:07:42,719 --> 00:07:47,279 Speaker 4: life and it's something that we probably need to embrace. 167 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:51,999 Speaker 4: It's the way a lot of these younger kids communicate 168 00:07:54,719 --> 00:07:57,639 Speaker 4: in Our involvement on social media may be less than 169 00:07:57,958 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 4: what these kids are coming out. Yeah, And so I 170 00:08:02,719 --> 00:08:06,039 Speaker 4: think that it's it's can be positive if it's done correctly. 171 00:08:07,799 --> 00:08:13,319 Speaker 4: That if you you know, trying to be focused on 172 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 4: what you want to do and using the right intent, 173 00:08:18,159 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 4: that that that that can be positive. And the podcasts 174 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:22,879 Speaker 4: you think you're careful, you know, I mean, you just 175 00:08:22,919 --> 00:08:28,759 Speaker 4: have to be careful they get very conversational and relaxed exactly. 176 00:08:29,119 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 4: I mean again, like I've been on podcasts before, I've 177 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 4: said things that in there. You know, you want to 178 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 4: be funny that ends up, you know, And I wasn't negative. 179 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 4: It was just a joke that seems to have gone on. 180 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:45,039 Speaker 4: But you just have to be careful what that happened. 181 00:08:45,439 --> 00:08:48,399 Speaker 4: What happens is is people cut out small snippets of 182 00:08:48,439 --> 00:08:50,478 Speaker 4: a podcast and then the players like, well, I didn't 183 00:08:50,479 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 4: say that. I didn't mean it like that, and I 184 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,479 Speaker 4: understand that they didn't. But after a course of forty 185 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,159 Speaker 4: five minutes, it's in a casion, it's a relaxed setting, 186 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:00,519 Speaker 4: and then they let their guard down and then it 187 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 4: becomes something bigger. So the biggest thing for me is 188 00:09:03,239 --> 00:09:06,399 Speaker 4: the education. How to use it, how to communicate it, 189 00:09:06,439 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 4: how to put your brand out there, your message, Try 190 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 4: to make it about the team and not so much 191 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:14,399 Speaker 4: I or me but we and us. 192 00:09:14,719 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been there. Have you had much interaction with 193 00:09:17,999 --> 00:09:20,519 Speaker 3: some of your former teammates, you know, talking about this 194 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:22,279 Speaker 3: leading up to taking the job. 195 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:28,078 Speaker 4: No, No, I meant I still text players and you know, teammates, 196 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 4: but not a whole lot of as it related to 197 00:09:32,719 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 4: this or you know, I was, I was busy, and 198 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:39,479 Speaker 4: you know, but obviously Teddy and Willie and Rosie and 199 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:44,519 Speaker 4: Seymour and you know Tom. You know, I've heard from 200 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,639 Speaker 4: a lot of guys and reached out and texted and 201 00:09:47,599 --> 00:09:50,639 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I asked. Proud of those relationships. 202 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:55,519 Speaker 3: I asked, because Teddy was really supportive of you getting 203 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: this job. And I thought he was really strong, even 204 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,919 Speaker 3: yesterday when it was already announced that you would you 205 00:10:01,959 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: would agreed. I thought he was really a guy that 206 00:10:04,519 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: seemed to be in your corner. 207 00:10:06,079 --> 00:10:11,159 Speaker 4: Linebackers stick together, well, I meant Teddy, uh. And Teddy 208 00:10:11,199 --> 00:10:13,119 Speaker 4: was one of those guys that helped me become a pro. 209 00:10:13,239 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 4: Like Teddy and I have different personalities, but we both 210 00:10:15,439 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: believe in the same thing. And you know, Teddy taught 211 00:10:19,319 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 4: me that that no is a complete sentence and I'll 212 00:10:21,959 --> 00:10:23,838 Speaker 4: never forget that. And I said, well, how do you 213 00:10:24,079 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 4: say no? See no, that's good. 214 00:10:29,199 --> 00:10:30,799 Speaker 2: It makes a lot of good on the other side 215 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:33,639 Speaker 2: of Teddy. Teddy, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. How much difference 216 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:35,399 Speaker 2: do you feel this that your second time around here 217 00:10:35,439 --> 00:10:37,399 Speaker 2: as you sit on the precipice is starting off another 218 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: franchise here's. 219 00:10:38,359 --> 00:10:42,039 Speaker 4: The It's almost sometimes is it do you know too 220 00:10:42,119 --> 00:10:44,919 Speaker 4: much about what the job is going to entail? And 221 00:10:44,919 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 4: can that can be a positive because I did think 222 00:10:49,119 --> 00:10:52,919 Speaker 4: that you get into you know, there was one option, 223 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 4: it was the it was the Tennessee job the last time, 224 00:10:57,319 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 4: and there may or may not have been more options now, 225 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 4: so then you start looking and you're like, can you 226 00:11:04,199 --> 00:11:06,399 Speaker 4: overthink something? And you never want your players to be 227 00:11:06,439 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 4: in that position where they're overthinking something, right. It wants 228 00:11:08,999 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 4: to be like I'm trained, prepared, poised them instinctive, and 229 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 4: I'm ready to go make a decision, as opposed to 230 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:20,838 Speaker 4: well this that the other thing, what about this? And 231 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:24,119 Speaker 4: so there's just I think you're more experienced, But then 232 00:11:24,199 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: that also leads into the ability to sometimes second guess 233 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:29,359 Speaker 4: what you're doing. 234 00:11:29,439 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I know personally, I rarely get things right 235 00:11:32,359 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: the first time right. It takes me a couple of 236 00:11:34,719 --> 00:11:37,039 Speaker 2: times to get it right. And I'm not saying you're 237 00:11:37,199 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: like that, but having ben a head coach before and 238 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:43,519 Speaker 2: now this is your second stint, there is there one 239 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: thing you say, I'm gonna do this differently this time, 240 00:11:46,479 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: where this is what I've learned that I want to 241 00:11:48,359 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: incorporate that I wasn't able to the last time. 242 00:11:51,079 --> 00:11:53,239 Speaker 4: No, not necessarily that, I mean just making sure that 243 00:11:53,239 --> 00:11:58,119 Speaker 4: their roster has competition throughout, you know, just the whatever 244 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:01,159 Speaker 4: you feel like is the front line starters and the backups, 245 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:03,639 Speaker 4: and making sure that everybody prepares as a starter each 246 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 4: and every week. Try to keep everybody engaged and hope 247 00:12:08,359 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 4: that they take advantage of opportunities. It's talk about the 248 00:12:11,479 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 4: connection piece, you know, that's critical and making sure that 249 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 4: we have people that you know are willing to get 250 00:12:19,319 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 4: to know the players another level, even. 251 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: Since when you were a player, Like practice, rules have 252 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: change and it's tougher to hold these practices, especially during 253 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:30,519 Speaker 2: the season, where you keep you know, well, we. 254 00:12:30,479 --> 00:12:32,639 Speaker 4: Want to be we want to be efficient, and we 255 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 4: want to practice with speed, uh so that the timing 256 00:12:36,239 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: of different routes and coverages or pressures are there. I mean, 257 00:12:40,359 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 4: I think great teams know how to practice with without 258 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 4: full pads, but there's a speed they stay off the ground. 259 00:12:49,719 --> 00:12:52,279 Speaker 4: So we'll practice as hard and as fast as we 260 00:12:52,359 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 4: can based on you know, the availability the players to 261 00:12:56,399 --> 00:12:59,759 Speaker 4: stay healthy and stay on their feet and that fall 262 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 4: all over the place. 263 00:13:00,719 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 3: You're still putting the pads on. 264 00:13:02,319 --> 00:13:04,999 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well see the pad on Yeah, you know what 265 00:13:04,999 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 4: I mean. We we love that thing. It's nice and thin, 266 00:13:07,439 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 4: it can travel anywhere, it can go in your suitcase 267 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:12,519 Speaker 4: and go to the workouts. And uh, that's been a 268 00:13:12,519 --> 00:13:14,359 Speaker 4: good pad that they made for us. 269 00:13:14,479 --> 00:13:14,759 Speaker 2: Okay. 270 00:13:15,039 --> 00:13:17,119 Speaker 3: One of the things that was, oh, you gotta wrap 271 00:13:17,159 --> 00:13:18,039 Speaker 3: it up, we gotta go all right. 272 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:19,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, one more question. 273 00:13:19,439 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 3: Well, I was just gonna say one of the things 274 00:13:20,719 --> 00:13:22,639 Speaker 3: that that stuck out to me when you talked about 275 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,039 Speaker 3: the college players and the differences come you know, spending 276 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:28,279 Speaker 3: five years of the program as opposed to six months. 277 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:30,759 Speaker 3: What have you seen the difference as they come. 278 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,039 Speaker 2: To you. 279 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:39,159 Speaker 4: That the accountability, Uh maybe they were enabled at college, 280 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:42,919 Speaker 4: don't don't want to tell him things that may disappoint 281 00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: them or upset them for fear for them to go 282 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:49,759 Speaker 4: and look for another offer, you know. So sometimes that 283 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:53,519 Speaker 4: that leads to a player that's not as accountable to 284 00:13:53,599 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 4: the team as he needs to be. And that's okay, 285 00:13:56,799 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, we we can change, 286 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 4: We can you know, do our part to help change 287 00:14:01,959 --> 00:14:02,999 Speaker 4: some of those behaviors. 288 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:05,639 Speaker 2: All right. Mike Franks, Guys, head coach of the New 289 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: England Patriots, welcome. 290 00:14:07,319 --> 00:14:09,999 Speaker 4: Back, Welcome back, Thanks Mike, thank you. 291 00:14:10,879 --> 00:14:12,999 Speaker 2: All right, take up break, We'll be right back. 292 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Brook as he brings you all 293 00:14:16,599 --> 00:14:19,999 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HP. 294 00:14:20,679 --> 00:14:23,079 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 295 00:14:23,079 --> 00:14:25,119 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 296 00:14:25,119 --> 00:14:25,759 Speaker 1: state of the team. 297 00:14:25,879 --> 00:14:27,319 Speaker 2: For where the Patriots are concerned. 298 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:29,839 Speaker 3: Let's just get one thing done, and let's get it 299 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:31,439 Speaker 3: done right, and then. 300 00:14:31,319 --> 00:14:32,839 Speaker 2: We can worry about versatility. 301 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:34,159 Speaker 1: Am I lying to anybody here? 302 00:14:34,439 --> 00:14:36,759 Speaker 2: Let's just get one thing done. 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