WEBVTT - Good As Gold...with Scheana Shay 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone. I am so excited because I'm staring at

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful face. So am I I have my first

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<v Speaker 1>friend Sheena on. Thank you so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. I'm excited. I love this for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, as soon as I knew I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast, I had to reach out to you and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I need your help give me some title names.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like you've been one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>who have been so supportive in every way possible, and

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<v Speaker 1>You've been such a great friend to me. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have Ghina.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. No, I feel honored to be one of your

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<v Speaker 2>first guests. So thank you for having me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>mean going back and forth with the titles, like there

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<v Speaker 2>were so many good titles there was. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you just finally narrowed it down and picked one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I really we really liked Mother, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Mother. It's super strong. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be only about like parenting. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be about everything. So I kept thinking, pursuit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>That is my pursuit. But also I feel like now

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<v Speaker 1>I have a little sas so it's like pursuit of status.

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<v Speaker 2>This past summer, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for everyone to see. Yeah, do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember how we met?

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<v Speaker 2>So it was through Brittany, Yes, right, but I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to remember like the first time because y'all have known

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<v Speaker 2>each other for a while. But I felt like we

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<v Speaker 2>really got to know each other in Vegas a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago for her birthday, although I know I

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<v Speaker 2>met you prior at like birthday parties, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just like before. And that was my

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<v Speaker 1>first girl's trip with everybody in Vegas, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy weekend. It was I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, this was pre Janet having a baby. She was

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<v Speaker 2>on a full send mode.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first time I hung out with Janet.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like I bonded with everybody. We all

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<v Speaker 1>stayed at the same hotel on the same floor. I

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<v Speaker 1>stayed with Britney. I had no ice, no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting myself into.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't know you were going to see a bush

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<v Speaker 2>that weekend, did ya?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My god?

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<v Speaker 1>The bush. When everyone kept saying the bush, it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the bush?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, we played truth or Dare and I

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<v Speaker 1>quickly learned what the bush was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she literally just sent me a TikTok. I'm like, Janet,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to click and open that. She goes, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the thing about bushes. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>see that, I can read what the title is. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to open it. She's like, you don't like

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<v Speaker 2>bush content? No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I still have that image in my head where

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<v Speaker 1>somebody I think she like, volunteered. She's like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to run.

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<v Speaker 2>Around she got on the elliptical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, completely name And I didn't even know this girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew her from like, Hi, my name's Janet,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was it. M h. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember another time I met you, or like I

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<v Speaker 2>was with you. I think it was maybe Kristen's birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>but we were at like a Mexican restaurant in the valley.

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<v Speaker 2>It was outside, might have been Britney's birthday. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know it was someone's, but I remember Isabella was so little,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe she was two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was probably just under two, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>and she still is.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that is the most beautiful child I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen, Like she is just so amazing. I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you? Yeah, yeah, she was a handful. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like from the beginning. She learned how to

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<v Speaker 1>walk at eight months? What yes, eight months, eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half months.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that does happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It does happen. And so she's always been like a runner,

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<v Speaker 1>and she used to climb and I used to always

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<v Speaker 1>just like not be able to hang out with people

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to people because I was always chasing her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mom told me that I walked at nine months,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've never believed her because I'm like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. She's like, you walked before you crawled.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I saw you. I was watching TV and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I saw you on Mass Singer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know. I couldn't tell anyone about it, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's such a keep your mouth closed sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of shower, Like, how dare you not tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, I did not tell anyone. Actually, though, Janet,

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<v Speaker 2>I had put her on my list because my sister

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<v Speaker 2>was unavailable one of the days and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I need an assistant or someone, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, you're gonna have to sign an NDA

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<v Speaker 2>if I tell you this. So she was literally the

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<v Speaker 2>only person outside sign I don't know if she signed it,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like here, oh my the show sent those out, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but just in case I needed someone to be there

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<v Speaker 2>to help assist me with anything, which I didn't end

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<v Speaker 2>up needing it, and I went home the first night,

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<v Speaker 2>so she didn't get to come that second night with

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<v Speaker 2>me anyways. But I literally couldn't tell anyone. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even tell my dad. I called my dad the day

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<v Speaker 2>before it aired and I was like, Hey, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you have to work tomorrow, just want to let you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I did this thing. And he was like, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you barely telling me now? And I'm like, good, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you and like I trust you, but you

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<v Speaker 2>also can just be so proud and bragging to your

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<v Speaker 2>friendsh Yeah, my daughter's gonna be on mask singer tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like no, no, no, you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>tell people before because then you have to unmask and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. So there's so much secrecy around it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was hard for me because I couldn't tell anyone

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<v Speaker 2>about this incredible experience I had. I'm literally turning off

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<v Speaker 2>my location when I'm on set.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, how many people have your location?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, so I lied to Lalla. I completely made

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<v Speaker 2>up something I don't even remember what. I was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be in Palm Springs with her that weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I can't go. I had dressed, rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 2>I had vocal lessons, I had all of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I don't even know what I made up.

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<v Speaker 2>But thankfully she wasn't in town and she actually doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have my location, so that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to know about the costume because it

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<v Speaker 1>was so gorgeous that it seemed so heavy. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you wear that entire costume while singing?

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<v Speaker 2>I really thought I was going to be claustrophobic when

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<v Speaker 2>I put it on for the first time. So I

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<v Speaker 2>did which I do with my OCD some exposure therapy

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<v Speaker 2>on Halloween, and I dressed up as a skeleton that

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<v Speaker 2>zipped all the way over the face. Because that was

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<v Speaker 2>like really close to my face I could see.

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<v Speaker 1>Through and I didn't even think of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I was trying to think, like, how am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to get more comfortable with doing this. I

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<v Speaker 2>have to move around, I have to dance, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to sing, I have to perform the outfit itself. I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to move in it. We ended up putting

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<v Speaker 2>a slit in it because I wanted to do splits

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<v Speaker 2>for my second performance, which sadly we didn't get to see.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did this for Halloween, so all of tricker

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<v Speaker 2>treating and everything, I'm like, walk and I'm just like breathe.

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<v Speaker 2>You got this that Honestly, the next day, when I

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<v Speaker 2>showed up for dress rehearsal and they put the head on,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, there's so much room

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<v Speaker 2>to breathe in this because the skeleton zip up. Puddy

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<v Speaker 2>was like on my face that was hard to breathe

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<v Speaker 2>inn But I just asked no. Literally, I went full method,

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<v Speaker 2>and so once we put it on, it wasn't even

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<v Speaker 2>that it was heavy, it just was awkward. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a very small head, so I'm like, you guys, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid if I try to make one little move

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<v Speaker 2>it's just gonna fall off. And if I do the splits,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to put my hands down and then I

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<v Speaker 2>pop out into them and I go, has anyone's head

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<v Speaker 2>ever fallen off? And they go one time it did happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just left it in because they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's real. That's what happened. You know, that's who it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, but I don't want that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had to put a bicycle helmet inside the

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<v Speaker 2>actual bat head and crank it so it stayed on

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<v Speaker 2>my head.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of this for a performance, All of this

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<v Speaker 1>is it live?

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<v Speaker 2>It's in front of a live studio audience. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not airing live, but there's hundreds of people right

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<v Speaker 2>there screaming for me. They have no idea who I am,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was such a fun part and aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>it is being able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Perform and not no one knows who is exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not on the bar singing good as gold, Like

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<v Speaker 2>this was something so insanely out of my comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so proud of myself for doing it that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I'm so ready for night too. Like

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<v Speaker 2>we just crushed that I did miss one of my

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<v Speaker 2>choreography turns, and that just for my OCD.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, we'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>OCD a second.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, but no, it was such an incredible experience

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<v Speaker 2>and I was really proud of myself. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>I was so bummed that I went home first I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like just kind of was a little depressed and sad.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day, I took summer out of schools, like,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to Palm Springs. I just like want to

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<v Speaker 2>go and take my family and get away.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're competitive, We're totally We're both very competitive my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. We go all out whenever we get like

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<v Speaker 1>assigned to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it worked out the timing that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have her go to school that day because norovirus broke

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<v Speaker 2>out at her school that week and so yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>she like totally missed it because I was like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to school tomorrow, We're going to Palm Springs.

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<v Speaker 2>So it worked out for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that was epic, And I think, did

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<v Speaker 1>you get a tattoo?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? Oh God?

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<v Speaker 1>Sheina? And that going to be in book number.

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<v Speaker 2>Two maybe, Yeah, I've got to do. I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a sleeve.

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<v Speaker 1>So your book, Yes, when is it coming out?

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<v Speaker 2>July twenty second. It's available for pre order right now

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<v Speaker 2>on my good sidebook dot com. There are signed copies

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<v Speaker 2>available as well.

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<v Speaker 1>How many did you sign? Actually, I don't know. If

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you went live? I did and Isabella's wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to watch, so she was watching, and I tucked in

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<v Speaker 1>Isabella and I say, Hi, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't looking as much at the comments because I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to sign them, and I realized I'm good

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<v Speaker 2>at multitasking, but trying to answer questions while signing them

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't work so well. So I'm like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do another live, but I'm just gonna take my

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<v Speaker 2>time signing them because I was trying to get through

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<v Speaker 2>as many as.

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<v Speaker 1>Possible in Summer signed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there are three special Summer moon editions that

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<v Speaker 2>will go into a book somewhere. But I got through

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<v Speaker 2>a little over three hundred last night, so wow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have, like, I don't know, seventeen hundred more, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>in the next two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>How long did it take you to write that?

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<v Speaker 2>The whole process was over a year, but the real

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<v Speaker 2>bones of the book and writing the majority of it

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<v Speaker 2>we did in like four months.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a long process finding the right person

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<v Speaker 2>to collaborate with and then being like, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to and then okay, yes, this person and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of this process that I write about

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<v Speaker 2>in the book because this was all so new to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know if I ever do a second book, what

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<v Speaker 2>I would do differently, what I loved about this process,

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a lot, But I'm very proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just also nervous for it to come out because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really hold.

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<v Speaker 1>Back and I know that feeling. Yeah, So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we had lunch recently and you're like, Hey, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about a little chapter in my book,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you told me, I was incredibly surprised. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>proud of you at the same time for being so

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<v Speaker 1>open and vulnerable in your book. So I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>read it, and I'm for everybody to read it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know me too. It's one of the biggest things

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<v Speaker 2>that've I did so many things in my career just

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<v Speaker 2>recently that I'm like, wow, like mass singer, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest things I've ever done, like a

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<v Speaker 2>network show like that, But then writing a book, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the biggest things in my career

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever done. And they just all kind of came

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<v Speaker 2>together around the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, you're very inspiring. Like honestly, out of everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like You're such a go getter and you are

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<v Speaker 1>constantly multitasking and just doing so many different things. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you do it? And I just watch you

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't get it. And You're like, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>New York today, I'm in La tomorrow, I'm in Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I was just in Puerto Rico. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I go back to New York. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>Palm Springs this weekend. Coachella stagecoach Summer's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>In between speaking of birthdays, Yes, your birthday is coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited, are you. Yes, you look amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>you're about that forty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say that, Yes you can.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's google able. No, it's a big

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<v Speaker 2>one coming up. And I felt like about six seven

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, I was so excited for it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I can't wait to be forty. I

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<v Speaker 2>just felt very energized about planning it all. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I wanted to do we're just not

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<v Speaker 2>really coming together. I wanted to go to Mexico, and

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<v Speaker 2>now Brock is in an in between visa things. He's

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<v Speaker 2>applying to be a citizen right now. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I want you really leaving the

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<v Speaker 2>country right now with just how things are. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not do Mexico. And then he's like, just do

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<v Speaker 2>a girls trip. So I'm like, okay, we'll do a

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<v Speaker 2>girls trip. And then I was like, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do anything, and we have to be in

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas the weekend after, so I'm like, maybe we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to Vegas. And I've literally planned absolutely nothing and it's

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<v Speaker 2>in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you had an epic thirty ninth birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and that's what I feel like. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>already did it. I'm like, how are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>do better than last year? Smearnoff threw me the best party.

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<v Speaker 1>They did at the best house and at the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Food, the best drinks, Like it was so good, it

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<v Speaker 2>was so fun that I don't know how we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do that better. I wanted to try and recreate

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<v Speaker 2>our welcome party that we had for our wedding, and

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<v Speaker 2>we did this like massive white party in Mexico at

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<v Speaker 2>an all inclusive resort. That was my original vision and

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<v Speaker 2>then now it's just that didn't come together.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we don't know what we're doing for birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, Okay, we have a couple of weeks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many birthdays.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and I swear with I guess, well, Isabelle

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<v Speaker 2>as a year older? But I know you had her

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<v Speaker 2>like write COVID. Yes, but I felt like the COVID

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<v Speaker 2>baby boom. All the babies came spring of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Because right now everybody's eight week or me. Every weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's a birthday party.

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<v Speaker 1>This weekend is Crus's birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>I know my mom is going to take Summer because

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be at Coachella. No, you see, I never make

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<v Speaker 2>it to Cruise's birthday. I'm like Brittany, if it's on Coachella,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be there. But then Summer's birthday

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<v Speaker 2>is on stage Coach.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I just do Disneyland for me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of our ritual now I've been doing it

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<v Speaker 1>ever since she's too. It was like, yeah, we just

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<v Speaker 1>do a cake at home, a really nice cake, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want, and then we go to Disneyland and you

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<v Speaker 1>get presents.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're smart. I started with a massive party for

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<v Speaker 2>her first birthday, which was really more for the parents,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that was for me and kind of so

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<v Speaker 2>was the second one. Then by the third one she

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<v Speaker 2>has friends from dance class and whatnot, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>did that one last year and now this year, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're getting two parties because we have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of cousins and friends with kids, and well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to focus on your birthday since it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. I know, yeah, I mean you've done

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<v Speaker 1>so much in the last ten fifteen years. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know about Pizza Pizza Girl, My gosh, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this to watch this? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a cute Disney show, Like it's something that

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<v Speaker 2>I love too that I have Jonas, Pizza Girl and

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<v Speaker 2>Mass Singer for like my daughter and her friends were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well you're not going to watch The Valley. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you do not need to go back and watch Vandawumbrules,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can watch Jonas, you can watch Mass Singer.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually want to watch that with Yazabella. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this. What else do I not know about?

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<v Speaker 2>GINI did nine or two one zero back in the day. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a featured extra on Entourage for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, wait, I've seen that show a million times.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So I used to work in the office.

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<v Speaker 2>When Ari in the later seasons moved into his new office,

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<v Speaker 2>I was at one of the desks, like every time

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<v Speaker 2>they shot there, I was one of the regular Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go home tonight and watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It on the first one I ever did was Vinnie

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<v Speaker 2>Chase's birthday party on the Queen Mary with all of

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<v Speaker 2>the Victoria's Secret model I just watched that up and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right there in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>I really Oh oh, I got that say.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like one of my first regular side gigs.

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<v Speaker 2>When I first moved out here, I had an agent

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<v Speaker 2>who got me a model rate which was higher than SAG.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all of my SAG vouchers already, and I

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<v Speaker 2>got to just go and hang out with the boys

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<v Speaker 2>all of the time. Filmed an earth cafe like shops

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>I always talk about that show because it literally is

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<v Speaker 1>all of la and I'm like, I've been there, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there. I love it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even tell you how many episodes I did,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's awesome. Yeah, Aaron and I actually just watched

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode of vander Pump Rules No way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why because I just I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just watch an episode. I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to watch an episode. I want to watch a reunion,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to know more about my friends now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why not? And so we watched it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, baby, Sheena.

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<v Speaker 2>My voice was so high back then, Like I genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the doctor last year because I worried.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why is my voice you know more rascal

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<v Speaker 2>and you age and your voice does change. But whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I see a scene from an old episode, I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>my voice was really high back then.

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<v Speaker 1>So is it weird to watch yourself from season one?

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird because I don't remember a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I watch something back like it will come

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<v Speaker 2>back to me and I'm like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember that. But I genuinely don't like to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and watch old episodes because I'm say, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>a good place with Stossy now, But then I watch

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<v Speaker 2>back the way that she was with me then, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, you know, I don't like having those

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<v Speaker 2>memories about you, Like I like this version of Stossy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the mom who our kids will play

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<v Speaker 2>together and whatnot. And so I don't really enjoy going

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<v Speaker 2>back and watching nix it just like it brings up

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<v Speaker 2>old feelings and.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, bad memories, a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of past trauma and relationships that I'm like, Season

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<v Speaker 2>six could just disappear from the face of the earth

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<v Speaker 2>and I would not be sad. I never saw an

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<v Speaker 2>episode from that season.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I or should I not watch? Watch?

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<v Speaker 2>It's really entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think I'm gonna we're gonna watch just do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right as well? Right like now or never? Let's do

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<v Speaker 1>it now? Yeah, okay. And so I know that you

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<v Speaker 1>went through different relationships and obviously for me, I went

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<v Speaker 1>through a divorce in my first season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. Now that I look back, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was I thinking, Like, I don't even know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I went into it just a little naive and

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<v Speaker 1>thought I could hide it and like it was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay, And I thought I could just do that

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact of filming. But no, no, no, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to show it all. Yeah, I got to show

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<v Speaker 1>it all and so now you know, obviously I've been

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<v Speaker 1>with Aaron for over a year, and so you might

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<v Speaker 1>see him pop in soon. And it's like, how did

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<v Speaker 1>you feel going through relationships on the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like by I mean like the second, third, fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like it was kind of all I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Once I joined the show. Shane and I had been

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<v Speaker 2>together for a little over a year. We both decided

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.920
<v Speaker 2>this was something we wanted to do together, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I only know reality TV is starting in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, we had five seasons together and

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<v Speaker 2>then I went straight into another relationship. Would not recommend

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<v Speaker 2>that to anyone. And then I had two single seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that was going to be so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about this a bit in my book too,

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<v Speaker 2>But when I was single, no one else was single,

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<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't so fun. It was actually quite lonely.

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.400
<v Speaker 2>And one of those seasons I was also freezing my eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>And so then we have what a year and a

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<v Speaker 2>half off because of COVID, and we come back and

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<v Speaker 2>I have yet again a new boyfriend and a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've really been through it all on this show

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<v Speaker 2>since I was like twenty six it's crazy that now

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<v Speaker 2>there is a vander pump Roules season twelve. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>not following our lives anymore, especially myself, Katie and Sandoval,

0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.920
<v Speaker 2>who have been on every single episode since the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Mixed feelings. I'm feeling excited for the new kids at Serta,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get their shot and their opportunities and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, because I know what it did for all

0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 2>of us. But at the same time, it's weird when

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I've done that for so long and now I'm not.

0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like the Valley is such a better

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:49.199
<v Speaker 2>fit and makes more sense. But it is weird that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this huge part of my life is over,

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 2>but it's not. It's just changing a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like it was time to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems like everybody was in a completely different path,

0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Like some people were getting divorced, some people were single,

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 1>some people have kids. Like, yeah, you guys didn't have

0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:11.920
<v Speaker 1>as much in common anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just was feeling a bit forced towards the end.

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like, this isn't who I would go on a

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:18.680
<v Speaker 2>trip with, you know, But when you're filming a show,

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Obviously you're not gonna go to Hawaii with your ex husband.

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>But when you're filming a show, you go to Hawaii

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 2>with your ex husband. So what I it's it's yeah,

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a crazy world that we're in. There's nothing normal

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. You know, to just put your lives on

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 2>camera and then it's like, okay, you lived your life,

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.680
<v Speaker 2>but oh no, no, now you go to watch it back.

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Now you've got to have the whole world judge you.

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's even crazier now because when we started Instagram

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:52.360
<v Speaker 2>was just starting out. Twitter was already around, but that's

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of nice it was, and so now it's so different,

0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, where it's like you can't post anything without

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a million people having opinions. The first few seasons, I

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.679
<v Speaker 2>miss the those days and when we actually all like

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.439
<v Speaker 2>had to work together to pay our bills. Like I

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 2>genuinely miss working at the restaurant. Sometimes. I know that

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>sounds crazy, but sir felt like a family. It was

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a really fun place to work. It was fun to

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 2>sneak our sangria and go hide it in the bathroom

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and we were all pulling tips, so it was like

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 2>we were a team.

0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's what you do when you're in your twenties.

0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>You're struggling back, you're trying to make it.

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I remember some of the girls would smuggle rolls of

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 2>toilet paper in their purse because they couldn't afford toilet

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 2>paper at home. Like we were Baroke when the show

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:45.679
<v Speaker 2>started splitting like a five dollars foot long and stealing

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 2>toilet paper. And look at you, now, I didn't steal

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 2>the toilet paper.

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>You have multiple houses. Yes, you bought a house a

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>year ago in the valley.

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 2>That you sold me.

0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, honestly, you were And I say this, You're the

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>best client I've ever worked with. And I learn a

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 1>lot about people every day because I had to deal

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.400
<v Speaker 1>with them. And like, you're making such a big decision

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 1>in your life to purchase the house, and so there

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>can be a lot of emotions, but you were very

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>like clear decide, like this is what I like. Yeah,

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you walked in and you fell in love.

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.479
<v Speaker 2>We just knew it. Like the first house that we

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 2>looked at from the outside esthetically was more my vibe.

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I loved the backyard, the adu, the long driveway, all

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 2>of that. I was like, this is what I pictured

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 2>my LA house to look like. But then when we

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 2>got inside, I'm like, this is kind of funky, Like

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 2>there was no actual laundry room, there was no pantry.

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 2>The rooms were really small and weird, and I'm like,

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 2>but then there's this massive attic, which I loved. It

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 2>was so not la I'm like, wait, this is cool.

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 2>But the second we walked into my current house, you

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 2>walked in first. I remember I was parking my car

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:55.919
<v Speaker 2>and you came out and you were just like the

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 2>bones of this house. Like you're like, you're you're gonna

0:23:58.600 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>love it.

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I fell in love with house, but I

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>like to get your opinion first, Like I don't want to,

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, push you towards one way or the other.

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.479
<v Speaker 1>But I walked in, I was like, this is awesome.

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very similar set up to Britney's house. It's

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of similar to what Katie and Schwartz's house used

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 2>to be. And I always loved their houses. And right

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>when I walked in, it was just so open. I

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 2>loved how the staircase and all that, just like the

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 2>openness of it. Yes, but the thing that like sold

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>me right away where the plantation shutters. Because my house

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>that I had in San Diego had those and I

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 2>just loved that. And so right when I walked in,

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my gosh, every window has these. Yeah,

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and the kitchen island, I still haven't done it yet.

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I haven't even done a house simaren party. I've lived

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 2>in there for over a.

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Year now, but you have pizza parties, have everything.

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 2>No, totally, but when I saw the kitchen island, I

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, the shark hooterie we could do on this,

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 2>which I still haven't done anything to do, but I

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 2>love it. It's great, it's home.

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were incredible. You were It was like easy

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>and smooth. What made you pick us as an agent?

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I love hanging out with you and you're one of

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 2>my favorite people. And I was like, look, if I'm

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna be doing walk through inspections any of that, like,

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I want it to be with someone who's energy I

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 2>really like. And so it was easy. And then I

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 2>mean with you came Jresse, which whatever, but you know,

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and I.

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Remember you were like I have a lot of agent friends,

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>but I want to work with you, and like I

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate.

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I just love you. We hit it off

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas. We've been close ever since, and I was like,

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>there's no one else I want to sell me my house.

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I've never had inspections where you're like, bring

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Isabella and.

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bring the kids. Yeah.

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>So we've really gotten close in the last couple years,

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, especially because of the girls, right.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they're like exactly a year apart. But

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Summer is so good with older girls, and she picks

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 2>up from them and learns from them. And Isabella's so

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>great with her.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she always wanted it or she wants to baby sister,

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>so she likes little kids, and their energy together matches

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>really well. I mean they have their little moments for

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a second, but overall they're really good. Yeah, they're with

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>each other.

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Four and five years old, all though they're going on

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>fourteen and fifteen.

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>What I can't stop picturing, which I'm like, Shina, you

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>are so OCD. I didn't even know this about you. Yeah,

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you have Summer's room and then you have a playroom

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's perfect, and oh it's always immaculate, perfect. Yeah,

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so confused because Isabella's I think more like me.

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of messy. I have to work on it

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and she like she's done with the toy,

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>she just throws it and after thirty minutes in her room,

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like he would have a heart attack to look at

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>what her room looks like. I'm trying to teach her,

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>but actually I love going to your house because I

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.959
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is how it's done, and you're actually

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like a positive role model and summer just like how

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>you guys are, but you're in incredibly clean.

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That was the thing with and nothing against this.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>It's how I used to live in my condo. But

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.360
<v Speaker 2>buying a new house, I was like, I don't want

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>to walk in the door and it to look like

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>a toddler lives here. Let's keep that stuff separate because

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 2>in my condo, which most people's houses are like this,

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you walk in, you've got like, you know, the playpen

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>or like the area for the toys.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And all of that, and with all the different colors, yes.

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>The primary colors, I can't so esthetically I'm like, okay,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I want a lot of white, which is crazy because

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I have a black cat and a toddler. So yeah,

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I really just wanted it to look pretty and keep

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff upstairs. And it worked out that right

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>under our stairs, there's that little storage like nook room

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>that we keep all of our stuff in there. That

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>room is a disaster. Just so you know, my mom

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>asked me today, she was like, have you cleaned up

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.959
<v Speaker 2>her butterfly room yet? And I was like, no, I

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 2>don't think so. I don't know. I haven't been in

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>there in the last few days. And she's like, Shina,

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, not a priority.

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>So you're like this with everything or just your home.

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I try to be like it with everything. If you

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>saw my car right now, it's an absolute disaster.

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Just so, speaking of the girls, I always smile at

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you because back then she was just like a lot

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 1>of work for me and she didn't get a lot

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of sleep, and I was just tired all the time.

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I'm good with one kid, and I

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 1>felt like you and I were always on that same.

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Same one and done like, don't even try to convince me.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And everybody else is like I'm on three four kids,

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And we would just look at each other like that

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>seemed miserable, very hard. Yeah, yeah, but what about now?

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>So we have taken one baby step or I mean, honestly,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a big step for me. But we

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>got rock sperm tested, and we have He picked up

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 2>my frozen eggs last week from the old facility and

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>transported them to my doctor's new facility. Okay, that's as

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 2>far as we've gotten, because I worry now that we've

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>gotten his sperm tested and we found out that it's

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>just like five star, top notch, best the doctor's ever seen.

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a plus plus, so annoying. He'll get you pregnant

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>just looking at you.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>He did twice, and so knowing that now, I worry

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>if we fertilize all sixteen eggs, what if we have

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>like three or more perfect embryos, I could potentially, in

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 2>a year or two be convinced to do twins, to

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>put two in a surrogate and see what happens. Okay, however,

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 2>if there are three or more, like, how am I

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna pick one or two? If they're like, oh, there's

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>two boys and one girl or two girls one boy,

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>then I'm gonna pick one over the other. Like that's

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>where for me and my OCD, I'm like, I'm not

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 2>there yet mentally. So my doctor was like, how about

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>we do this? We just do five eggs at a time,

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 2>He's like, obviously I would recommend doing them all at once,

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>but if you would feel better about that, what are

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the chances that we even get more than one out

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>of five? You know, it's like some of them won't

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>even survive the thin process. And then once you fertilize

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>genetically test all of that, if we go out of five,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a better shot, and then maybe none

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>of those are good. Then we do the next five,

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>and then we do the last six.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>But okay, so I have a lot of eggs.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Sixteen, which honestly isn't a lot. I did two rounds

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of egg freezing. I got nine the first time and

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>seven the second time.

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>You're teaching me because I don't know anything about this.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't either until I did it, and then I

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 2>was literally getting ready to do a third round because

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to have as many as possible because

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>my AMH levels, which is like your hormone level, were

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>really low. So normally for my age at the time

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I think I was thirty two thirty three should have

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>been between one point four and four point two, and

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I was at zero point two six. Okay, so basically,

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>the chance of getting pregnant naturally was going to be

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>close to him. Pop possible, but not impossible because after

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>six seven months of not not trying, but after I

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>met Brock and we're in the pandemic and you know,

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>there's not much else to do. Yeah, I got pregnant.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>And the doctor told me it was probably from freezing

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>my egg twice the year before that. That kind of

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>woke up my.

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Body, so you were surprised.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I was so shocked. I remembered the moment where Brock

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>was in San Diego at the gym. We're on FaceTime.

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the bathroom and I was like, hold on,

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll be right back. I'm just gonna pee on this

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>really quick. And he was like, what, you're being so

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>casual about this. I'm like, dude, I've peed on like

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty of these in the past. It's never been I'm like,

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.239
<v Speaker 2>just for my sanity, so I can like go have

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a white claw and smoke some weed. Like I'm just

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna make sure. And so I do it. I pee

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 2>on it and I'm like staring at it. That's how

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you find literally, and he's like what and I'm like, uh,

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. And it has like the two lines

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it was, and I was just like, there's

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 2>there's no effine way, there's no way. I was in

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 2>pure shock because I didn't think that I could even

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 2>get pregnant, and I've never had a pregnant a positive

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>pregnancy test, and so I went back to the store

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and like got a different brand, the one that says pregnant,

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>not pregnant. So I'm like, maybe the lines are yeah, whatever, pregnant.

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh my god. Then the next day I

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>make an appointment to go get my blood work done

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 2>just to like make sure pregnant.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And then then you believed it.

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Then I believed it, and then sadly, a few weeks later,

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I have a miscarriage. So it was just so many

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>emotions where and hormones and everything where it's like I

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't think I could get pregnant, then I'm pregnant, now

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not pregnant, and it just so quickly this all happened.

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>It didn't pass on its own, so I had to

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>have the DNC procedure, which was the most painful thing

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I've ever gone to physically and emotionally. And after that,

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>my doctor was like, you know, the best chance you're

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 2>going to have this procedure also wakes up your body

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>in a different way. He goes try again in one month,

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>have one ovulation cycle, and then try again. And I'm like,

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 2>first of all, I've only known this guy for like

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>seven months. We're in a pandemic. Neither of us really

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>have a job right now, Like we should not be

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>trying to actively have a baby. So I told Brock.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, I was gonna freeze eggs.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 2>We even that early in our relationship talked about making

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>embryos because I'm like, we already have my eggs, so

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>if things don't work out, then we don't use those.

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 2>And now I just feel differently about that too. But

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 2>after I went through that, I told Brock when it

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 2>was that time I had just ovulated, I'm like, hey,

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>just so you know, this is the week, like we

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>either gotta be very careful don't have sex because it's

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>very likely I could get pregnant. We had just moved

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 2>into San Diego. We wake up, it's a beautiful day.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>The waves are crashing, the sun is shining. We christen

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>the house.

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.959
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm here, I'm in the moment. I

0:33:59.000 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>love this.

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful day, and all of a sudden he was

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>like wait. I was like, you just got me pregnant,

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't you. And He's like no, there's no way. And

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, well let's just say you did. I'm

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>minutes pregnant. Let's go across the street to like our

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 2>favorite sushi place. We had sushi, we had a couple

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>of sake bombs. I took a hit a weed and

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, now I'm just gonna pretend like I'm pregnant.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just tell myself that. And so then for

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 2>three weeks until I had the test that said pregnant again.

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>If you were already in your mind, thatt Hour's pregnant, yes,

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>like you got me pregnant this you manifested this, by

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:42.479
<v Speaker 1>the way.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And we were getting ready a few weeks later

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to go to Sedona for my sister's birthday, and I

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't go until I know, because we're

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna be off roading, we're gonna be mountain climbing, doing

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>all of these things that I probably shouldn't do if

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm pregnant. And the day before we left, I took

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>a test and it was like as early as it

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>could be detected, and it said I was pregnant. Wow.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>So it was just crazy because I was like I

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>knew it that one time and from then on, but

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>like those three weeks it was such a mindful because

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm treating my body as if I'm pregnant.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not drinking, I'm not smoking, I'm not eating cheese,

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 2>sushi anything. It was a couple hours after went and

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>got the sushi and I'm like, there's no way, Like

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay if it's a few hours. But I was

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 2>so psychotic my entire pregnancy because COVID first of all,

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>but also just having a miscarriage. I was so afraid

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>of everything. I was afraid of everyone and everything. I'm like,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>who my friends were hanging out with. I'm like, if

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be hanging out with that person, then you're

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>not coming this weekend, or you have to test before wow.

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Because I was just worried that anything was gonna kill

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>my baby. I had to get on progesterone just to

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 2>have her survive because my levels were still not high enough.

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I actually thought because my sister went through something very

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>similar and I watched her for you know a decade

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>have so many issues that I actually thought like it

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>would be very hard for me, but that luckily, like

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the easiest things I had to

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>go through. I feel like I've had so many difficult

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>teas in life, but like, actually getting pregnant was the

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>easiest thing. It was a one time try. Yeah, we

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>were going on a trip to Italy and I was like, hey,

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's time. We've been married for almost a year, like,

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. We did it one time, and I

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>got pregnant boom. And I had no problems during my

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy and it was just like same, yeah, really good.

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Other than back pain, I didn't get sick, and I

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 1>had We had a healthy baby, beautiful baby girl.

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 2>She's perfect.

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so it's summer.

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 2>The worst thing in my pregnancy, I just had acid reflux.

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 2>I had like really gnarly like I would wake up

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night and I'm like, oh,

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>it was like right here.

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Especially when you're nine months pregnant. Yeah, yeah, but so

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you might do it again.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I yes, I might have someone else carry the baby

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>for me, because now that I am turning forty, as

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>we've said, I got help syndrome. After I had her

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>like postpartum immediately they had to transfer me to the

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 2>high risk I see. It was really scary, so a

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>high chance of miscarriage and help syndrome again if I

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>were to try and get pregnant in my forties, and

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to take that chance. I don't

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.720
<v Speaker 2>want to have to have a c section, deliver early,

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 2>worry that the baby's lungs aren't fully developed, worry that

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have another pregnancy loss. They are just

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 2>too many things that could go wrong that I'm not

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 2>willing to chance. So we would have to go a

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>surrogate route just to be extra safe. But it's crazy

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 2>because in twenty eighteen, I did Hollywood Medium with Tyler

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Henry and I was thinking about freezing my eggs around then,

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and anytime I had a psychic reading, I would always

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 2>ask like, what do you see future love interest babies? Da,

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 2>da da, And he said he saw me having a

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>child in an unconventional and I was like, that's crazy

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you say that because I was thinking about freezing my

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>eggs right now, and he was like, you should do that,

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I don't know, like exactly what the

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>path is. But that's just one thing I see, and

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>who would know that. You know, I would have a

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>natural pregnancy but then have to go an unconventional route

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:19.720
<v Speaker 2>the second round.

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a true believer in psychics.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, we talked about that. Yeah, I want

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to set you up with one of mine.

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I would love that little more than anything. Yeah, especially now. Yes,

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>I want to know so much about my future. I

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>am now open to the idea of having another child

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in the future, not now. It's not the time that

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I feel like once everything settles totally and you were

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>one and done with him, I was, Yeah, I was.

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't imagine. And he actually, Jesse really wanted a

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>second child, and he used to push me and push me,

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and at the same time we were fighting a lot.

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>So my mom that was like her one advice. She

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, do whatever you want to me. She's like,

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>do not have a second child, and you like, just

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>promise me that because he wants to trap you even

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>more and it's going to be more difficult, So do

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>not have it until you guys are in a healthy,

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>better relationship. And so even though like at the time,

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I wanted Isabella to have a sibling. I just didn't

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>feel that it was the right time for me or

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>with the right person again, which sounds odd to say, but.

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you knew, and thankfully you didn't have another

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.280
<v Speaker 2>with him, you know, And now you can have another

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 2>with the right person.

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm so excited, and I don't.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Mind a big gap, to be honest. My sister and

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 2>are twelve years apart, and we're so close.

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I it's funny because my brother's twelve years older and

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 1>my sister is nine years older, and I love it

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so close to them. But like, even now,

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I just worry about Isabella because she wants to play

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>with somebody now. But it isn't a big deal.

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Over to play with summer. You have friends.

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it isn't a big deal all. Yeah, And I

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>think it'll be easier for me because she'll be however old,

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>seventy eighty nine. She can help me.

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about it.

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Holy try and plan it around the same time.

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Imagine. I would love that, right, And I don't see

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong with having a how do you call it surrogate? Yeah,

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>not at all, especially if you have health issues. I

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people who've done that, and I

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>think that's amazing, like having children, totally funny. I just

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>saw an interesting article about Seth Rogan and he was

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>in the studio with his co star Catherine Hahn, and

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>he was talking about how much he loves vander Pump Rules,

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and he was saying he really emphasizes with Sheena the most.

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I think out of everyone on the show, Sina's made

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>some bad mistakes over the years. She's chosen the wrong

0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>guy a number of times. She just had things publicly

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>perhaps she shouldn't have said. She's maybe said some things

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>about her friends that she wishes she could take back publicly.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I do think ultimately Sheena's heart is in the right place,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and that is out of all of the people on

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the show, something to be said. And so I like Sheena,

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Lady Gaga and Seth Brogan, Oh my god,

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm on, that's amazing.

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>You know what's so funny is the other day on Saturday,

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I was at PINNs the bowling Alley, Yeah, and we

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 2>were there for a school birthday party and this woman,

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I can't even remember her name, she

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 2>comes up to me in the arcade and she's one

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>of Seth's best friends, and she tried to FaceTime his

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 2>wife because she's like, oh my god, I want to

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 2>surprise him with you. And then I was like, well,

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll be here for a while, so if you get

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 2>a hold of them, like come back and find me.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>And she never did.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Yeah, how does that feel to have like

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Lady Gaga and a lister want to hang out with

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you and is so excited to be with you.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Still can't get over it, to be honest, like, I'm

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 2>so excited.

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't get o'bella. I cannot believe that.

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 2>No, So Seth I met, Oh my gosh, when was this?

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 2>It was probably ten years ago. It was like twenty fifteen.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 2>I think we did a little spoof thing together. It

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 2>was vander pump Rules Meets the Night Before. It was

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>a movie that he did then, and there were four

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>of the cast members who came as if they were

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 2>going to like apply it, sir, and we filmed this

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. It was me, JACKX, Kristen and Peter and

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>then the forecast from the movie. And there's a part

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 2>where Seth and I are literally singing the theme song together,

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>like as a ballad. Oh, it was so fun, Like

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I will just go back and watch that randomly. That

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 2>was one of the most amazing things that I've ever done.

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 2>That had to do with vandr Pump Rules because Seth

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Rogan has been one of my favorites forever. It's so

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 2>funny and to get to act with him, but as

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 2>myself it was so fun so the fact that he

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 2>said that I got to hit him up get into

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 2>some Shnanians do.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's ask you some questions. If you could trade

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>lives with any other celebrity for a day, who would

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it be.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, I would love to get into a Kardashian life

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<v Speaker 2>for a day. I think Chloe Kardashian. Honestly, She's someone

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start modeling my life around. Like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the word I'm looking for. I would say Chloe Kardashian

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<v Speaker 2>because she gets up at like four or five am

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<v Speaker 2>every day, works out, makes her kids lunch, takes them

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<v Speaker 2>to school, still is a boss ass bitch, has a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>like does all of the things. But I just I

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<v Speaker 2>love her work ethic and her commitment, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I need more of that in my life. So

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to go into summer's next school year,

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<v Speaker 2>modeling it around, like what would Chloe, do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get up early. I want to start

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<v Speaker 2>are working out at the beginning of my day because

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<v Speaker 2>once it's noon one, two pm, it's like I still

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<v Speaker 2>have to work out and it's so hard, whereas if

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<v Speaker 2>you just do it right when you wake up. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would like to be in her shoes

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<v Speaker 2>for a day to see, like, how the f do

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<v Speaker 2>you actually do that? Because it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's just say, hey, Chloe Kardashian, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this, let's hang out. Yes, As a mom with

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<v Speaker 1>a busy schedule, what are your go to self care

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<v Speaker 1>routines to keep your mental health in check?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, go to? I do love getting a facial me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Our girl Kayla is incredible. So that's definitely a self

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<v Speaker 2>care thing I like to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I did one yesterday. Yeah, I really need it.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It's like two things in one. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I get really nice skin and it's like very good

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<v Speaker 1>for my mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and every time I go to Palm Springs, I

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<v Speaker 2>have this incredible person who comes over to give me

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<v Speaker 2>a massage. She stretches me out, and that's just like.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have somebody that always comes to my my house,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, it's perfect. I get a massage right

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<v Speaker 1>before Ben and it's just so relaxing. Yeah, we're very

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<v Speaker 1>spaw girls, I know, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's what I'm thinking. I wanted, like, if we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a party on my actual birthday and then a

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<v Speaker 2>spa day the next day to just with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Psychic Yes, ooh wait, I love that me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been hearing and reading a lot about Lisa vander

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<v Speaker 1>Pump recently expressing how you know, she doesn't talk to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the cast, and some people should be grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for her because she created a lot of people's careers

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of us had careers, we were

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<v Speaker 2>already on the path to achieving. But also I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a two way street, you know. I mean, vander

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<v Speaker 2>Pump Rules was so successful not just because of Lisa Vanderpump.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because of an incredible cast from the first

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<v Speaker 2>season who people really resonated with and wanted to follow

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<v Speaker 2>our journey. So, I mean, I'm incredibly grateful to Bravo,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for giving me this opportunity and for seeing

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<v Speaker 2>something in me for eleven seasons as a story to tell,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that story continuing on the Valley. I will

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<v Speaker 2>always be grateful to the network.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, Yeah, well, I'm very excited because season two airs

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<v Speaker 1>in just.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of days. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bummed that I wasn't around the first couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks because I was traveling and I missed some really

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<v Speaker 2>fun parties. But I'm like, I can't wait to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But I literally had to call you and text you

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I'm like, this happened, and this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah again, You've just been like so supportive, especially

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<v Speaker 1>because like this is kind of new to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>just I was dealing with a lot and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like having that support. Dealing with you know, different personalities

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<v Speaker 1>and difficult people can be very stressful at times, and

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<v Speaker 1>just to have you by my side has been amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I love you. I ride or die for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am always Team Michelle and no one can change that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love you too.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you. Thanks