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Speaker 2: Oh, there's probably a long list. There's a legit a

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Speaker 2: long list. I mean, when I came into the league,

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Speaker 2: it was still you know, Ryl Swoops and Lisa Leslie

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Speaker 2: But it's actually the first time I remember thinking like,

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Speaker 2: holy shit, like I have no chance. It was actually

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Speaker 2: my second year, and it was when Cynthia Cooper came back.

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Speaker 2: So she had retired and then she came back and

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Speaker 2: she only played I think she got hurt, so she

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Speaker 2: only played like ten or so games. We happen to

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Speaker 2: be one of them, and somehow I got switched on

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Speaker 2: to her and I'd heard I had heard about her

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Speaker 2: in and out. It's like legend. I'd heard about it.

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Speaker 2: And then I was just she did it, and I

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Speaker 2: and I was like, well, there.

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Speaker 3: It is, yo, yo yo. We back live location. We

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Speaker 3: out here in Seattle, Washington, the Blackest One. We got

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Speaker 3: a very special guest man. Don't be alarmed. Y'all might

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Speaker 3: be here in seaplanes and boats are boarding and all

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Speaker 3: types of things going on, but this is the beauty

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Speaker 3: of being back. We came out here for one reason,

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Speaker 3: one reason only. Four time w NBA champion, five time

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Speaker 3: Olympic gold medalists, two time National champion, four time FEBA champion,

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Speaker 3: too many awards to keep going without further ado. We

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Speaker 3: got Seattle Storms, own Sup Birds, the legendary goat. Y'all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for having me, I mean, thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming to Seattle lived through.

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Speaker 3: We ain't been out here so long.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when you first heard that it was

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Speaker 1: to be something after college?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I was. It was my junior year of

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Speaker 2: high school, so that was kind of when it first

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Speaker 2: that my class, my year, we were kind of the

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Speaker 2: first class that chose a college based on knowing there

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Speaker 2: was a WNBA. Like it wasn't like, oh, maybe you'll

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Speaker 2: go overseas when this is done, let me let me

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Speaker 2: choose this school. It was like, oh, what school can

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Speaker 2: I go to that's going to help me get ready

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Speaker 2: for the WNBA? What high school class was that ninety eight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ninety eight, same as me. I got a question

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Speaker 3: right because we was talking about this, was there a

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Speaker 3: women's of females McDonald's All American Game? Then I told

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was because I didn't remember, like

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Speaker 3: how you see now all of the guys and the

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Speaker 3: girls that are together and you know, the dual three

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Speaker 3: that and DN now it was all there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's great. I don't even think about it.

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Speaker 2: We had like the Nike All American Camp and or

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Speaker 2: we didn't do I don't think the McDonald's came so

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Speaker 2: like I don't even know. Five six seven years.

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Speaker 1: Later, Christ the King. Yeah, you transferred from another school

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Speaker 1: and went the Cross King. What year did you transfer?

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Speaker 2: After my sophomore year.

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Speaker 4: It's amaze you transferred from your school and go to

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Speaker 2: It was kind of like a combination, Like one part

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Speaker 2: And so that's the second part of it is basketball.

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Speaker 4: It was Omar Cook.

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Speaker 2: Then he came, I already know your story and Omar

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Speaker 2: you we're supposed to be and you were supposed to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go that the Midnight Man. This took

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Speaker 3: I'm tripping. She's a fellow nty eight ye like me.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Your town, New York. You

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Speaker 3: know you're a young boy. I've been raising him.

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Speaker 2: Up every sing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so how was it like in high school when

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Speaker 1: you know, this is a historic high school. And to

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Speaker 1: win state championship in New York for the how was that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like what was expected. Like you guys

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Speaker 2: It's like you go there, that's that's what's expected. Anything

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Speaker 1: It was cool, like I said, to go to another

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Speaker 4: Was you going to test your game out? That was

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Speaker 1: Like, man if I could play one of the best

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Speaker 2: Yeah. A big part of it was, like I said,

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Speaker 2: get me a scholarship, and more than anything, prepare me.

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Speaker 2: I always joked, like when I got to college. Like

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Speaker 2: So when I got to college, if all that stuff

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Speaker 4: Yeah, could have been anybody else but Yukon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some schools that snuck in a little bit,

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Speaker 1: What was What was it about Geno that made you

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Speaker 1: like like you you kind of like, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: Because we try to tell them all the time. It

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Speaker 1: Maybe fall in love with Yukon basketball. I love Keisha Sales.

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Speaker 1: You know, Rebecca Lobo was the you know, the man there,

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Speaker 4: But when you came, it like started.

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Speaker 1: You know it's time now we're finn run off and

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Speaker 4: University. But how was it with Gino?

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Speaker 1: What made you choose Gino to be your next coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he just I mean, he's he's got charisma,

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Speaker 2: there's you know, he's got something about him that when

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Speaker 2: you want to learn from him. You want to hear

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Speaker 2: his stories. I mean, now I don't want to hear

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Speaker 2: It's like the same stories. But you know, when he

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Speaker 2: you want to learn from And then you know, you

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Speaker 2: bring up Rebecca, you bring up Keish, and it's like

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Speaker 2: they had already won, so they'd won in ninety five.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting recruited in like ninety seven, so they're kind

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Speaker 2: we were kind of like talking behind the scenes you know,

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Speaker 2: Because are you going?

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Speaker 2: Are you going? Because if we all go? And then

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Speaker 3: And you said, this was like the first time you

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Speaker 3: oh I can get to the league from it. So

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Speaker 3: everybody kind of had that feeling from Gino and the whole.

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Speaker 2: University absolutely because I mean again, Rebecca Lobo, Kara Walters,

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Speaker 4: How is coach Chris David?

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Speaker 2: She So she's kind of like the backbone of the program.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody obviously talks about coach Arima rightfully, so,

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Speaker 2: But like I don't know all the little things, like

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Speaker 2: just the way we present ourselves, the way the way

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Speaker 2: just more talented. Yeah they have, they have a lot

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Speaker 2: It's like she's the one yelling at us to sprint.

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Speaker 2: She's the one yelling at us to you know, play harder.

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Speaker 2: And so in a lot of ways, like I said,

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Speaker 2: she's the backbone and and the program wouldn't be the

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Speaker 3: That makes me think about c B when he always

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Speaker 3: yelling Karen, but come, like I say, man, you don't

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Speaker 1: Your I mean, he's right though, I loved when was

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Speaker 1: it for you to realize when you and Geno started clicking?

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Speaker 1: When when it was like I already know he thinking

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Speaker 1: and what he's goin to say before he even said,

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Speaker 1: I already know what we supposed to be in.

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Speaker 4: I know it. Like, so when was that when they

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Speaker 4: clicked for you and him click.

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Speaker 3: After being blamed for everything?

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Speaker 2: That's that's yeah, that starts the journey. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's like a couple of parts too, Like one, I

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Speaker 4: When did you accept me and the leader?

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Speaker 2: You got that's my roommate. That's not my teammate, that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, swin Cast was one of those special players

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Speaker 1: They kind of put everything together. How was it to

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Speaker 2: when I describe Swhen, it's like a winner and someone

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me about like you said, you know, we

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Speaker 2: You know, you know roommates like you're you're getting to

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Speaker 2: So we had to like sneak up on each other.

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Speaker 1: You got the opportunity to see the young goat come

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Speaker 1: In this camp, you know, you got the little kids.

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Speaker 4: And she won MVP. They like won the thing, and

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Speaker 1: And I followed her and to see her come on

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Speaker 2: And well, you said it bright personality. You know, back

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Speaker 2: we were like, oh boy, she's special. We're like, she's special.

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Speaker 2: She's special, and she is, I mean she really is.

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Speaker 2: She's she's so unique and how she plays the game,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was that was after So her freshman year,

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Speaker 2: like famously went like something crazy like one for fifteen

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00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: or one for twenty, like really bad game. But I

436
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: I think if you asked her, she's like, that's the

437
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 2: moment like kind of set it all up, you know,

438
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 2: to never want to feel that way again, to like motivate.

439
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 2: And then the result was was what was my senior year,

440
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: her sophomore year, everyone undefeated? And that was just I mean,

441
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 2: I know, I'm sure people would argue, I think it's

442
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 2: the best college team ever. I really do.

443
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 3: How was it for you to, like you said, y'all

444
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 3: go undefeated, do all of that? You national player at

445
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 3: the Big East. How does that feel coming from, like

446
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: you say, your freshman year, the injury, not playing a

447
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 3: whole lot, and now you're the leader and now y'all

448
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: doing all these great unforeseen things.

449
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, it was so he

450
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: really never coaching. I'm gonna never let you get comfortable.

451
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 2: So it's like I don't remember ever feeling like, oh shit,

452
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 2: I don't ever feel like that. It was just like

453
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,479
Speaker 2: on the prize, we're on a mission. This is what

454
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: you know, like, don't don't you always to be focused? Yeah,

455
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: so it really wasn't until after the fact, you know,

456
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: where I look back and like that injury my freshman

457
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: year set my mentality for the rest of my career.

458
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 2: And then I think that senior year is what kind

459
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: of catapulted me, you know, like you said, the player

460
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: of the years and all that stuff, and then that

461
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: led to being picked in the draft to come to Seattle.

462
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 2: So it all kind of like started off.

463
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 3: Tell me how, like like you said, for the for

464
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: you to not even really notice that and never really

465
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 3: get a chance to stop and celebrate yourself, how did

466
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: the way that you know Geno coached you and you

467
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: know impact how did that propel you for the rest

468
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 3: of your career for like, you know, when you do

469
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 3: get success, do you stop and smell the coffee or

470
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: do you really just keep going like he turned he

471
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 3: taught you to.

472
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you had. I had to learn to

473
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 2: like appreciate what I was doing when I was doing it.

474
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 4: We got a bloo. That's definitely what's gonna go on.

475
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 4: That's that question.

476
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: What you had, nah, I said, with you know, with

477
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: the way that Geno coached you, and you know how

478
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: you really said you didn't really get a chance to

479
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: you know, breathe or see your success until really like

480
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: your senior year and that's you know, you out of here.

481
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: So like, how did that impact you moving forward with

482
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: your career with enduring and gaining success.

483
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 2: See, I'm kind of the same way still, Like I

484
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: feel like even now with everything you know that I've

485
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: done in my career, I still feel like I have

486
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 2: something to prove all the time. Like it's never enough.

487
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 2: It's never enough. You could argue that's probably not the healthiest,

488
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: but it's like for me, it's what's worked. Yeah, for me,

489
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: it's what's worked. It's like what makes the off seasons bearable,

490
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: you know, like I gotta get in the gyms, I

491
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: gotta get better because I got to prove something. So

492
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: that for me, it's worked. For me, it's definitely worked.

493
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, Like through the years, you know,

494
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: I definitely take especially after you win, you got to

495
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: take the moment enjoy it.

496
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: So I was the tour when you want Player of

497
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: the Year, you want to Nancy leaving the awards, you

498
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: want to ask you, how is that that the old

499
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: tour of it by you know, getting presented the awards

500
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: and you know you're seeing some of the stars that

501
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: you see on TV being at these awards.

502
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: So how was that for you?

503
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 2: It was fun? Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, made the rounds.

504
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: I think that was the first time I was on

505
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: we had chartered obviously in college. I think that was

506
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: the first time I was on like the smaller ones,

507
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 2: like the lear Jet type vibe. I was like, okay,

508
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: I used this, So it was fun. Yeah, And like

509
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: you're right, Like you go to Natesmith and I remember

510
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: Jay Williams had won it that year as well from Duke.

511
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: He's a little younger than me, but so he was there.

512
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 2: And Raymond Felton had won it for the high school,

513
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: so he was there. So you're right, It's like, that's

514
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: what makes it fun. You get to see all these

515
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: different athletes. Obviously shout out Nancy. I was able to

516
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: win that one too, So yeah, just making the rounds,

517
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: not having to finish school. I'm sorry, I'm busy. It

518
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: happens fast for us, Like you finished the college season

519
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: right of the.

520
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: Season, drafted the next week fast.

521
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: I was a draft, Like you know, everybody excited and

522
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: they remember that they want to have that moment of

523
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: shaking the commissioners saying, and you've been seeing it for

524
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: a couple of years now on TV, how was it

525
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: your experience of it lacked for number one?

526
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: Like kind of So that was like what people were

527
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: telling me, But you never know it's being and it's

528
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: not just say like my agent's not getting a call

529
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: like hey, you're going number one, and I relax, like

530
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there like everybody else, like, so, is

531
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: it going to be me? Or at that point, To

532
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: be honest, I think I would have been. I think

533
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: I was a little more stressed that it wasn't going

534
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: to be I wasn't going to be number one, because

535
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: that's what all the talk was, So that it didn't happen,

536
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: I would have been like, oh god, it's embarrassing. But

537
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: then simultaneously I had also heard rumors that New York

538
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: was trying to trade for the pick. Yeah, so I

539
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: was like low key hoping that happened, because you know,

540
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: at the time, yeah, Seattle felt far. I mean it's

541
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: far far. Yeah, so it felt really f are. Sitting

542
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: in that green room, I was like, dangs, Yeah, that

543
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: was far but yeah, but when when my name finally

544
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: was called, there was a little bit of relief. But

545
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: then like the excitement starts to set in. You start

546
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: to realize, like what it means?

547
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 4: How much did you stress about what you was going

548
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 4: to wear?

549
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: I mean not at all? Like I'm not joking, I

550
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: think you know, because, like I said, I was lucky.

551
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: I was.

552
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: Three other classmates also got drafted. So the four of

553
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: us we like hit the mall down the street from school,

554
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: like probably went to Express and we're like all those

555
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: pants that sure whatever, Like it wasn't I mean, now

556
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: it's totally different now I can't even imagine it was stressed.

557
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 3: How awesome was that though? To be able to go

558
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: through that experience with teammates that means like three four

559
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: of y'all all doing the same thing at the same

560
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: time and experiencing and being able to bounce off each other.

561
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: How was that life saving? Like because you can imagine, right,

562
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: like you guys were both like.

563
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: How we got drafted. We had three other guys that

564
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: we were already knew key on me and him, Corey,

565
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: same age, everybody out the start and block.

566
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: So experience you're in that green room, right you're in

567
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: that green room, You're like cool, we can hang out,

568
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you kind of like

569
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: tag along with each other. You get to go through it.

570
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: You're not by yourself, because that could be just kind

571
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: of like intimidating, nerve wracking and sitting there by yourself,

572
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: not knowing anybody. So it was it was amazing to

573
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: go through it with three other people.

574
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: So now you're in Seattle, you get picked and you're

575
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: a professional. Now, how was it your first trip to Seattle?

576
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so far and the first thing so,

577
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean, rip the Sonics the first thing I did

578
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: when I landed. It was great. Actually I landed, they

579
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: like picked me up in a limo. They're like trying

580
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 2: to show out a little bit, which is great. And

581
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: the Sonics were in the playoffs. Yeah, and I want

582
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: to say they were playing If my memory is legit,

583
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: I think they might have been playing the Spurs. So

584
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: we go like straight to a game and at the

585
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: game they have like media setups, so they're going to

586
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: introduce me. I like hold up the jersey, that whole thing,

587
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: and they're kind of preparing me. This is going to

588
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: be like a little bit of shade towards the Seattle

589
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: media for a hot second, but they were like preparing

590
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: me for the moment, and they're like, listen, it's going

591
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: to be a lot of media, but don't worry, like

592
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: we'll control the situation. When I was like, Okay, cool,

593
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: I've just come from University of Canake it like where

594
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: after every game it's like a room full of media.

595
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: So I was expecting, like what a lot of media

596
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: meant to me. It wasn't the same definition. I walked in,

597
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: there's like five people. I was like, is everybody else? Yeah,

598
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: everybody else coming? Or should we wait? So that was

599
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: my first intro to that, Yeah, it's getting better.

600
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: Were you aware that you were the you know, the

601
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: first U kind of woman to be the number one

602
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: overall and you kind of kicked it off so to speak?

603
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think I like logically knew that

604
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: till this moment. That's crazy.

605
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 3: That's a bar when you think of that. That's what

606
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: the list that you guys have is doing. What y'all doing?

607
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: No, that's crazy. I mean I'm probably also like the

608
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 2: first class of w B A draft, but I'll take it.

609
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: The success of your first year and you know, the

610
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: the highest league posit just the best of the best.

611
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 4: How was that for you?

612
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: It was unexpected? Ye Like, if I go, if I

613
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: like fast forward to the end of the season, I

614
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: like vividly remember just getting to LA. We were playing

615
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: LA in the playoffs. I get off the plane and

616
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: it's a two on two number. So I'm like, oh,

617
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: like New York Hello, And it was Renee Brown, who

618
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: used to work in the WA office, and she's like, Hi,

619
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: Sue Nate Brown, you know, just calling to let you know,

620
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: like congratulations, You've made WNBA First Team. And it didn't

621
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: even like process. I was like like, oh, great, cool,

622
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: that is the most unexpected phone call I've ever gotten

623
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: in my life, because that's like, that's top five in

624
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: the world. As a rookie, I was not expecting that.

625
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: I really had no expectations. I just went in there

626
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: and played. But I was really lucky to like write

627
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: out the gate, get matched or paired with Lauren Jackson.

628
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: That like set everything up because that was kind of

629
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: like you can do all the comparisons, like the Stockton Malone,

630
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: Like we just imediately clicked pick and roll, let's go,

631
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: and it was like a perfect fit. So it helped

632
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: me out.

633
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of Laura and jack like a lot of people

634
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: don't say, no, we had Lisa Leslie on her and

635
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: she spoke on how dope was problem she was, how

636
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: good she was. Just talk about just how good Lauren

637
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: Jackson were so good, so good.

638
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: If she were playing today and the game is different.

639
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, I just had this realization the

640
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: other day, Like you know how like guys who played

641
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: in the nineties in the NBA they talk about like

642
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: the rough, the physical, the fouls, and now it's like

643
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: more free flowing. I kind of like live both of that.

644
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: Like the early WNBA days like rough and there was

645
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: there was no defensive three seconds, so she was just

646
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: it was just constantly like cutt into the lane was

647
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: just and then now we're we're like entering the more

648
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: free flowing So it's like if Lauren played now, this

649
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: is like a six five, six to six center that

650
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: shoots threes and and like got double teamed. Really, she's

651
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: one of the few people in our game. Lisa Leslie's one,

652
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: Britney Grinder's one, and there's there's a couple sprinkled in here,

653
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: and there Tina Charles, but like she's one of the

654
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: few where it's like she got doubled every night. Every

655
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: night she got doubled, And I just think that says

656
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: it all.

657
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was good. She was real good.

658
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't see why a lot of people don't really

659
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: say her name. It's much because she was real dope.

660
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

661
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: Another person I want to say, like, since we talk

662
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: about people, a current person that I feel like it's

663
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: so dope to me that I feel like she don't

664
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: get enough creat is Jewel Lloyd.

665
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: How dope is Jewel Lloyd?

666
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: Jewels like the like that like next generation type player,

667
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: Like she's already ahead of that, like just her handles,

668
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: the way she can create her shot. It's it's I mean,

669
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: seeing her growth in the last couple of years has

670
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: been crazy. This year, she's really starting to show, like

671
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: all that she has. I guess what the game kids

672
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: call their her bag. She's all up in there now.

673
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: But it's been really fun to watch her. Girl too,

674
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: guys sound like such a old lady. I'm like, watch

675
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: all these people grow, But Jewel is again, like Jewel's

676
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: really one of a kind, Like there's not many players

677
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: in the WNA that can do what she does, can

678
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: do what Errique does, Like just off the dribble, create, create, create, create, create,

679
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: and when they when they get going. I mean, there's

680
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: so many times in games where I'm just like, I'm

681
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: just a spectator even though I'm out there.

682
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're forty.

683
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks back, everybody said, down, she bring

684
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: out forty.

685
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: Four, y'all.

686
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, she's nice.

687
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: How was it when you finally get to the to

688
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: the top of the throne here in the NBA in

689
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, you get to get to the

690
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: championship and you get to win it, Like, what was

691
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: that moment right there? You since you can now you

692
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: back on top.

693
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: So it's crazy about the two thousand and four championship.

694
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: That was like my third year. I was like, cool,

695
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen all the time. That's what it is.

696
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: This is what we do. Let's go like I'm twenty three,

697
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: Lauren's twenty both twenty three, like, oh we want it ready?

698
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah cool? And then we didn't get back till twenty ten,

699
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: not even to the finals. Got knocked down the first

700
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: round every year. So that's what's interesting about that. Championship

701
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: is like I was delusional. I was like, cool, start

702
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: the let's start the dynasty. And then reality set in,

703
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: you know, and the reality of pro sports player movement,

704
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: free agency, injuries, like just life, you know what I mean.

705
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: And then, like I said, we didn't get back for

706
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: six years. And in that moment is when I was like,

707
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: I like when we got back to the finals. Really

708
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: the last three times, I like squeezed. I was like,

709
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm not letting go to we win, Like I'm not

710
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: taking this for granted. You never know when you're gonna

711
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: get back, Like trying to tell that to the younger players,

712
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: like don't piss this away.

713
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: We got the squad.

714
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we're gonna be here for ye Yeah,

715
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: not the case.

716
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: So when you first won, I remember that year, like

717
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Seattle had a team no more in

718
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: but the crowd was crazy, Like how was Seattle as

719
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: a city when.

720
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: You won that first one?

721
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Nuts?

722
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: And I remember the crowd just being just extra hype

723
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: at the games and stuff like that.

724
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah they were. I mean, you guys played in

725
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Kirina Kiarina. They're like redoing it now, But Kiirina, there's

726
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: just something about that building. It gets I mean, it

727
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: gets loud. So that year, the best part about that year,

728
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: like that championship run, was we won on our home court.

729
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: All the other years because we swept, we won like

730
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: away yea hum, but yeah, that year we won on

731
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: our home court. So it was it's it's I mean,

732
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: your first is always going to be like a little

733
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: more special in a way because it's the first. But

734
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: that makes it like just epic, Like being in the

735
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: home crowd, hearing the roar. It was nuts.

736
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, part of a basketball players journey, they always want

737
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: to win a championship, win a gold medal, and do

738
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: all the other get all the other accolades, to play

739
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: on the USA team and play with the best of

740
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: the best, be one of the ones that's chosen to

741
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: be playing. How is that to win a gold medal,

742
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: play with the best.

743
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: So that was that was like for me the ultimate

744
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: because even though I just said that, you know, my

745
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: class is kind of one of the first classes to

746
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: you know, base their college decision on the WNBA. That

747
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: wasn't what it was when I was growing up. There

748
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: was no WNBA. It wasn't anything to look forward to.

749
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: That was it like you heard about people playing overseas.

750
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, you're I don't know, thirteen,

751
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to hear that, you know what I mean, Like,

752
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to hear about playing in Italy. So

753
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: it was the Olympics and then you know, you fast

754
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: forward to the ninety six Olympics. I'm fifteen, I'm kind

755
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: of watching that. I'm like, oh, like I see I

756
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: say this all the time. I see gen A Z

757
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: out there, like we look alike. I'm like, wait, how

758
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: tall are you? And you've a brown ponytail? Let's go

759
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: like like literally I get GenZ often and I'm pretty

760
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: sure she gets supirted from time to time. Like that's

761
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: how much we look alike. So I was like, oh,

762
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: like this could be me, and that kind of put

763
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: that on the map. Then, So to actually get name

764
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: to the Olympic team, that that was like ultimate ultimate goal.

765
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: So as far as like because you pretty much did

766
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: a little bit of everything, you do want to you know,

767
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: World Feeble Championships, you gold medal, College Championship w n

768
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: b A, but you would say that the gold medal

769
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: and what overseas somewhere too? You want some.

770
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: Championship, Yeah, Russia sprinkling.

771
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: You would say the gold medal was the ultimate for you? Yes?

772
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: Yes?

773
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 4: How was it this year.

774
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: With like how everything going on in the world and

775
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: how they had to set up the Olympics for y'all

776
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: to winter? I thought the TikTok videos crazy.

777
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: I just can't stop looking at no one.

778
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: I couldn't look at everybody, just got to keep on

779
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: looking at djil.

780
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: But how does that look?

781
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: Like? Y'all had a ball and y'all enjoyed.

782
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: Y'all, so I think we did the best we could. Yeah,

783
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: because we couldn't leave. We were in a hotel, so

784
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: we weren't in the village. Actually, they had more freedom

785
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: in the village. I'm not saying I prefer that, but

786
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: couldn't leave the hotel. They did set it up where

787
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: we had like a lounge where the men's and the

788
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: women's team could go like TVs, video games, set up whateverever,

789
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: you know how it is. But we did the best

790
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: we could, Like we really did. It went pretty fast,

791
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: but there were definitely days where it was like, oh god,

792
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: we're just stuck. It was like lockdown.

793
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: How was it like Don Staley the video coach like

794
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: sty the great point go on a point god.

795
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 4: Video coach.

796
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: I was the that's like full circle a little bit

797
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: because she was our team. She was me and D's

798
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: teammate in two thousand and four, and like you said,

799
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: she was on that ninety six team. I remember her too.

800
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: She had the you know, straight backs in the gold

801
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: medal game, like always had flair tour. And she actually

802
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: was my assistant, so my assistant coach in college. Tanya

803
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: Cardoza played with Donn at Virginia. So all through my

804
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: college experience, Tanya would be like Dawn TeX's me. She said,

805
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: you ain't got no left. I'm like, damn. Don Staley

806
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: said that was just mess with me. Yeah. So the

807
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: times I like cross paths with down through Tanya, it

808
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: was just kind of that like it was just kind

809
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: of almost like I don't know when someone. She wasn't

810
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: actually taking me under her wing because we never it

811
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: was just we were far apart, but there was definitely

812
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: like a you better work on that left, you know,

813
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: like kiddo kind of a vibe. So I had known

814
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: her then then we become teammates in four and I

815
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: get to learn from her. I get to kind of

816
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: see how she operated as a point guard, how she

817
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 2: kind of led and controlled. So then the full circle

818
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: moment is now I get to play for her and

819
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: kind of have that. I don't know. I just think

820
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: there's like a mutual respect there where I don't know,

821
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: we're just we know we're out there to win a

822
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: gold medal. We're both going to do whatever is the

823
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: team needs. And because you have a respect in that way,

824
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: there's a trust and it kind of allows you to

825
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: go out there for her. I hopefully it allowed her

826
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: to go out there coach, coach, coach. For me, it

827
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: allowed me to just go out there and play.

828
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: I love point guards and you don Staley, Teresa Wellispoon,

829
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: Tisa Franco Like. Then the point going is that a

830
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: guy like me will always want to play with to

831
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: see you know, your peers and NBA players and w

832
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: NBA players, your peers to respect your game and appreciate

833
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: your game and appreciate the way you play it.

834
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: How is that for you?

835
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: That's the biggest compliment you can get. I think, you know,

836
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: whether it shows itself, you know, maybe you hear an

837
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: interview where somebody's like, oh, I would love to play

838
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: with or I like watching her play, or like free agency.

839
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: When you start, you know, people start thinking about going

840
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: to teams and like, oh, I want to go to

841
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Seattle because I want to play with X, Y and Z.

842
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's like a bigger compliment, you know,

843
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: because especially for me, because that is what my game is, Mike.

844
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm not like there's no highlights of me out there

845
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: crossing someone, Like I'm not hitting the step back three

846
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: at the buzzer, Like that's not really my game. My

847
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: game is like how can I help make this group

848
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: of people like play well together and how can I

849
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: help put my teammates in spot to be successful? Like

850
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: that's where I thrive. And then yeah, if I hit

851
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: a shot here and there, of course, but that's kind

852
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: of what I like, what I try to do, what

853
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: I want to do. So when people see that and

854
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: kind of want to be a part of that, it's

855
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: the biggest compliment.

856
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: A lot of w NBA players over the years, I've

857
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: had to go overseas and play and have that little

858
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: time in between. Tell me how it was it for

859
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: you to not only play overseas in Russia, but you

860
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: played for a spy like how was they have to

861
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: play for spy like international man.

862
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean he had great stories. He had

863
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: some amazing stories. That was I think that period of

864
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: time in my life is the wildest I've ever experienced.

865
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Just just I don't, I can't, I'm not. I mean,

866
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: I can't even put words around it.

867
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: It was.

868
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: It was a crazy time. We didn't really like know

869
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: the extent of his spy and he wasn't like currently one,

870
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: but he would tell us stories about, you know, the

871
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: life he lived, how he went to jail for being

872
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: a spy and like all that stuff. And then now

873
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: he was just a family man who loved women's basketball.

874
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: He obviously had I always say his name Shaptai, and

875
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: he kind of, you know, he ended up getting asassinated.

876
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: That's like the end of the story, which is, yeah,

877
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: I know, that's not like I know, to say that

878
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: I was assassinated is like a lot. And he just

879
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: the way I describe is he like he just kind

880
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: of wore different hats. The only hat we saw was

881
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: like the family man and the basketball junkie, and he

882
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: was like working in a pharmaceutical company, like those were

883
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: the three hats we saw. Obviously, he had this whole

884
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: other life, but he just really his whole thing was

885
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: he treated us like performers, and he was like, I

886
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: want you to never have to worry about anything. So

887
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: when you have to go perform and the crowd is

888
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: there to watch this performance, you're ready to go. And

889
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: we were like, okay, we need some chicken and some

890
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: watches and something on Jock and you.

891
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: Played with DT there right, How was that to play?

892
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: You know that the first time says Cotege you guys together, yep.

893
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: Yep, I mean listen, and you're in Russia and this

894
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: is like, I'm gonna this is like my version of

895
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: the like when your parent or whoever is like I

896
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: had to walk to school up hill in the snow,

897
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: thirty miles that whole thing, Like there was no Wi Fi,

898
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 2: there was no iTunes, like I wasn't down, you couldn't

899
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: just download a TV show. Like it was rough and

900
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: like lonely, like isolating. So to have your best friend

901
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: and you're in this country where you're just kind of like,

902
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, you're kind of acting a fool, because

903
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: not a fool. That's not the way to explain it,

904
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: but you know what it is, you're in another country. Yeah,

905
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: you're like nobody knows you, so you're just out there

906
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: doing whatever. I don't know, Like even at the grocery store,

907
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: we would be just cracking up and stuff. Yeah, like

908
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: who knows, laughing at whatever.

909
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: You remember how we acted in another country. Let me

910
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: tell you it was not for social media.

911
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy. The memories of that Nike trip

912
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: was like crazy.

913
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: You know exactly what.

914
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: You seen the generation.

915
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: You see DT come, you see Maya Moore come, you

916
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: see the success did again. Then you see Brianna Stewart

917
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: come through U KAH and she's about to be your teammate. Yeah,

918
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: Like just talked about Stewie and just.

919
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: It's called rebuilding it.

920
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: You know, this like third generation.

921
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: Like so you've been here for a while, you know,

922
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: to get her, how is it to see her game,

923
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: see how actually good she is, and to beat her

924
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: to help out?

925
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so she's like she's like Lauren Jackson

926
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: two point zero, because it's like they're like one. Like

927
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: Lauren was like a little more low post. Stewie's a

928
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: little more guard outside. Yeah, but it's just like you're

929
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: seeing what I saw in Lauren. I'm now seeing in

930
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: this younger version that's so and the sky's the limit,

931
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: you know. So what's special about Stuwie is obviously her

932
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: versatility and just like her ability to do it all

933
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: at her size you just don't see. I mean, there's

934
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: like you have Elena del Don, there's a couple people,

935
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: but Stewie is special. And I mean my favorite part is,

936
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: and I've said this to her, I'm like, she literally

937
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: saved my career like this, there's no ifans or buts

938
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: about it, like the combination of her and Jewel. But

939
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: her coming Jewel came in twenty fifteen, and then we

940
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: drafted Stewey the next year and Stewie coming it just

941
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 2: changed it really like changed the direction for me because

942
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: in that moment, we really were rebuilding. Some people might

943
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: say we were tanking, but we were rebuilding. We knew

944
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Stewie was, you know, coming out of college, so there

945
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: wasn't an accident. And it was kind of in a

946
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: position where it's like, if we didn't get Stewey, I

947
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: was actually a free agent, so there was like I

948
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: could have left, and it was really like on the

949
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: scale was staying in Seattle, finishing my career here and

950
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: to be honest, like playing in the playoffs again, Like

951
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: if Stewie didn't come, I don't know what would have happened.

952
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: So I tell her, I'm like, man, you saved my career.

953
00:43:53,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: Like we got one about five voo need to go.

954
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: Like let's talk about injuries, because I had any injuries

955
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: and you know, to come off of one and keep going,

956
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: and you had some early to how do you persevere

957
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: through an injury and keep going. You played so long

958
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: you had to go through injury, out the injury and

959
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: to keep going and getting up every day to do it.

960
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of mental So how was that.

961
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: It?

962
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: I mean, so in some ways I was so I

963
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: tore my aco my freshman year and then like five

964
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: years later I had to get a microfracture, and then

965
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: like a couple after that, I had to get it

966
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: to go. But the best thing that happened was when

967
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: I got hurt. In college, there was a teammate of mine,

968
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: Shaye Ralph. She had been through the ACL thing like

969
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: multiple times, so it was great to have her just

970
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: kind of in my ear, you know, like talking me

971
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: through things, helping me through things. You know, you can't

972
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: get what I've learned with these injuries is like you

973
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: have to It's like you have to trick yourself in

974
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: a way like you can't. Yeah, you really do. Like

975
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: there's two parts to it. One, when you're in the

976
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: early parts, you have to remind yourself all the time,

977
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: tomorrow is going to be better. Tomorrow, the next day

978
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: is going to be better. You can't think about how

979
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: it felt the week before, or even how it feels

980
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: in that day. You just have to like trick yourself

981
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: into believing there's gonna be a better day because there

982
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: is you know, like month one of rehab versus month five.

983
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: You look back on month when you're like, dang, I

984
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 2: couldn't even walk, or dang, I couldn't even straighten it,

985
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: or dang, it's gonna get better. So you can't get

986
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: down in those early parts. And then I think the

987
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: other part, you have to trick yourself. And this is

988
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: kind of what I did in that first ACL rehab,

989
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: which by the way, set me up. This is where

990
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: I was lucky that I happened young. It kind of

991
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: set me up mentality wise for all the other surgeries

992
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: I had to follow. It's like when you're starting to

993
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: get back on the court. A lot of people can

994
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: be hesitant, nervous, they don't want to hurt it again,

995
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: and you just have to be like, fuck it, what's

996
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: the worst that happens? I tear it again? But it's

997
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: like you'd rather go out, you know, just doing like

998
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: playing the way you want to play than playing timid.

999
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: And ska shoo.

1000
00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1001
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: I always think about about cose A Brown. He said

1002
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: that we'd be kiming the gym sid on trying get

1003
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: lie to your legs, your legs. He used to be

1004
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: classic with that. But I wanted to go back to

1005
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: the Like you said, how Brianna came and kind of

1006
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: saved your career. It's one thing like you guys all

1007
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: knew that, Hey, we expect this and we expect that,

1008
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: but how was it when she actually got there and

1009
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 3: y'all hit it off and it's like you can't even

1010
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: believe how good it is. How was it when you

1011
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: finally got to like actually experience it with her?

1012
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we clicked on the court off the court

1013
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: too right away, Like it was seamless, it was easy,

1014
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: and we also had jewel so it's like it was

1015
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 2: also I was kind of trying to like my whole

1016
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: thing with the storm in that moment was I wanted

1017
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: to leave it in good hands and that those hands

1018
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: are Jewel and Stewe's.

1019
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: Chicago Land Area shout out. You know what I'm saying,

1020
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: young Jewel, you know what I'm saying. You know easy,

1021
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 3: Saint Louis still over there. You know what I'm saying.

1022
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: I love your Lott.

1023
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: So yeah, so for both of them, like I wanted

1024
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: them to start taking ownership of the franchise like it's yours,

1025
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: like in all reality years wise, like it's more them

1026
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: theirs than it was mine at that point, like it

1027
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: was going to be there, and we had like a

1028
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: little bit of success like pretty quick, like nobody expected

1029
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: us to make the playoffs we did, which was great,

1030
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: and it kind of set, i don't know, just set

1031
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: the tone on what the expectations were going to be.

1032
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: And then really what happened was from year one to

1033
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: year two, it's doing improved. From year two to three,

1034
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: she like skyrocketed, So she went from like a great player,

1035
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: probably first team, but now it was like year three,

1036
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: now she's MVP. Like it's yeah, it's like a different level.

1037
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: And then that's the year we win, So it just

1038
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: kind of the progression of it. But it was pretty

1039
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: easy right away. I mean she went from like a

1040
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: skinny little kid legit. Like I look back sometimes there's

1041
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: some highlights. I'm like, whoof, she was skinny, so, like

1042
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: you know, she like grew into her body. She's like

1043
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: establishing herself and that was.

1044
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like she got extra aggressive second.

1045
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: Which she played in China. I think that like China's

1046
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: like notories. It's known that league for just being rough.

1047
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: So I think she went and got her like beat

1048
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: up over there and then came back and was like,

1049
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: oh it's easy. You guy's barely touching me.

1050
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want a championship in the bubble, Like

1051
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: how was the bubble for you?

1052
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: The bubble, I mean it's weird, so like it happened.

1053
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: It was three months and it happened, and like it

1054
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: wasn't until So there was a documentary that Chenelumaka did

1055
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: around the bubble called one four, and when I sat

1056
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: down to watch that, all of a sudden, I was like,

1057
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, it was like PTSD. I was like,

1058
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: oh god, I never want to go back there. So

1059
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: it was weird, Like I don't look back and think

1060
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: of those things. But there are moments where you're like, oh, man,

1061
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: like none of us want to go back to that ever.

1062
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: It was just that's the hardest part, to be honest,

1063
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: was seeing all the other teams time. Every day you're

1064
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: seeing the players and the coaches and the referees. And

1065
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: it's not that they're obviously, everybody's cool, everybody's nice, you're

1066
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: saying hi, it's not that. It was just you couldn't

1067
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: get away. You just couldn't get away from basketball. There

1068
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: was nowhere to go. It was a hotel with one pool,

1069
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: and everybody was at the pool all the time, so

1070
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: it was just like you just couldn't get away. And

1071
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: then obviously, like where our country was in that moment,

1072
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 2: there was just so much happening. It's like heightened emotions

1073
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: across the board and so much to be done. And

1074
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: I think everybody who went there just left exhausted, like depleted, exhausted.

1075
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: So when we watched that documentary, I was like, oh God,

1076
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: all of us were like, oh PTSD, it's kicking in.

1077
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: But we won, so it made worth it.

1078
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: If you had to pick four other players to play with,

1079
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: you to play against Gino and the rest of the

1080
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: history of the Yukon the whole huge.

1081
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: Husky for other Huskies, for players for the Huskies.

1082
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: So who are the four Huskies that you would choose

1083
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: to go against Gino and the rest of the huskle.

1084
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going out on a limb here,

1085
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: Diana maya Stewie, and then I'd probably go Tina Charles.

1086
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: I thought that be yeah.

1087
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 2: I mean all the number one picks, all.

1088
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 4: The number one picks speak speak of Page.

1089
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: Have you been playing? Says the Page this year? And

1090
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: how she played? What do you think about Page?

1091
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: Page is like that next generation of player I think

1092
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: we've all been waiting for. That's how I see her. Like,

1093
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: you know, again, I've been around for a long time,

1094
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: so I've seen all these players come and go and

1095
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: evolve and this and that, and for a while there

1096
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: was a little bit of like for the last couple

1097
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: of years, there wasn't that like generational player, you know,

1098
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: like that player that you knew once they came into

1099
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: like a Stewie like MVP. By year three, Rique has

1100
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: signs of that for sure, like leading the league in

1101
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: scoring like that's special. But like you know, the last

1102
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: couple of drafts, there wasn't necessarily like this generational player

1103
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: and you heard about Page. You know her like sophomore,

1104
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: junior of high school. So now you actually get to

1105
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: see her on this big stage and you're like, oh,

1106
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: that's the next Like that's how I would describe it.

1107
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: She's just like when she hits the w n B A,

1108
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: and a lot of people in her class too, when

1109
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: they hit the w.

1110
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 4: N B A, that's girls that Iowa?

1111
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 3: Is that Iowa?

1112
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1113
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 3: Crazy Cole, This is what I want to know, because

1114
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: what do you think about somebody like her? Because you

1115
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 3: watched the draft, like she would have been a topic

1116
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: this year, So what do you think about that? As

1117
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: far as like the difference between you know, guys be

1118
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: able to leave out of college and stuff early, but

1119
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: not in w n B A or not in women's college.

1120
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: What do you think about that rule?

1121
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't think there should be a rule.

1122
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: They can do an intendan if anything else.

1123
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there shouldn't be a rule. I could sit here

1124
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: and have the argument. I could argue both sides. I

1125
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: can tell you why she should stay. I can tell

1126
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: you why she should go. You know, like I really

1127
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: could I see both sides of it, but as far

1128
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: as the rule goes, like nah, yeah, if she wants

1129
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: to do it, she can do it.

1130
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: That's gonna be kind of tricky for you.

1131
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: Okay, start bench trade, Okay, DT Maya Stewart, Yes.

1132
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: Yes, thanks. This is an easy one. So what's going

1133
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: to make this easy is you know one of them

1134
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: is the homie, so she's starting, Diana's starting. Then there's

1135
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: another one who I played with Maya and Stewie, but

1136
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: Stewey's on my team. Yeah, so I guess I have

1137
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 2: to wait to start bench trade.

1138
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1139
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'll bench Stewie because she's still on

1140
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: my team. And then sorry, Maya, I do love she

1141
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: has she has high trade value, so I'm going to

1142
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: get a lot back.

1143
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: This is the all time Don Staley, Tisa Paneto, and

1144
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: Teresa we Small start bench cut.

1145
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: Oh don Tsha's boon. Oh this is tough. Are they

1146
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: in their primes?

1147
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? Best of the best.

1148
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess I'll start Tasha. She's she has

1149
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: a championship, so it just oh yeah, I mean if

1150
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: you want to look at like average, like I'm no fool.

1151
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: I have that record because I'm playing a long time.

1152
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: Her average, her slew like out of this world. So yeah,

1153
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 2: so I'll start Tisha, I'll keep Don benched on and

1154
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 2: then I'm sorry Spoon. That's like my first w NBA

1155
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: game was Tea Spoon at the one. I'm sorry Spoon,

1156
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: and she's killing it now with the Pels.

1157
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: You know, as a former Yukon and you know everything

1158
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: you've done in wn B, how how how how was

1159
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: it for you from your perspective to watch Maya and

1160
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: her journey and her step away from the game and

1161
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: actually do what she did. How was that from your perspective?

1162
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just was like proud, you know, I think

1163
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: there was a little bit of sadness in that, like

1164
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: as a women's basketball player in the in this world,

1165
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: you know, we don't there aren't that many stars at

1166
00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: the time.

1167
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: Nobody.

1168
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like play as long as you get please, Yes,

1169
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: I just had the Jordan's Wings ups. That campaign had

1170
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: just come out like the year prior maybe, and she

1171
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: wasn't her prime, So there was like a little bit

1172
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: of sadness in that we weren't going to get to

1173
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: watch greatness. But you can't. You know, that went away

1174
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: quickly for me personally because it's like this is what

1175
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: you know, like what her calling, right, It's like what

1176
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: her calling is? So then and then when you get

1177
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: to that point, you're like, dang, I must have been

1178
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: a really hard decision, I mean or not because it

1179
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: was just such a strong calling. And if that was

1180
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: the case, then how do you be anything butt happy

1181
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 2: but proud? And obviously we see the end result clearly

1182
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: she's happy. Yeah, So that trumps everything else in terms

1183
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: of just it's like basketball.

1184
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: Is a game that was amazing to witness, and like,

1185
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: like you say, to know that you to be at

1186
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: the prime, like I was terrible when I walked away

1187
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: from me, I wasn't good anymore. Like to be in

1188
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: your prime and say I'm just like not because you

1189
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: heard or nothing like that had to be, like like

1190
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: you say, even either way it go, would it be

1191
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: in a call? And I know for you to be

1192
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: at the top yo game and still had to be

1193
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: tough to kind of just let that go, not for

1194
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 3: no injury or not cause your game deteriorated just because

1195
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: you were going to do what you would call to do.

1196
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 3: I want to go back to twenty eighteen when y'all

1197
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 3: beat Phoenix and you had the broken nose and you

1198
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, you did a Nash moment out there, Like

1199
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 3: just just tell me about that, you know, persevering through

1200
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: that and enduring that and then being able to beat

1201
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: them and go ahead to the championship.

1202
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've said this before. I don't say it lightly.

1203
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: Like that is by far the best moment of my career.

1204
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: Just all the everything that was happening, you know, Like

1205
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: I said, we had you know, we were going through

1206
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: a rebuilt three years prior, and I almost left because

1207
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: of that, you know, so now all of a sudden,

1208
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: I never I guess what I'm trying to say is

1209
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 2: I never expected to be back in the playoffs as

1210
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: the favorite, you know, trying to get to the finals

1211
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: and then break my nose. I mean, such a pain

1212
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: of break my nose playing against Diana, my best friend,

1213
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: but also like someone who's never lost in an elimination

1214
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: game ever, like her or the Mercury. Yeah, and then

1215
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: I you know that the the way that story goes

1216
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: is I started the game pretty well and then I

1217
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: was not good. I missed. I missed eight shots in

1218
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: a row, like Trash and Stewie just kind of nudged

1219
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: me in a time out, or maybe we were like

1220
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: about to go on the floor and she was like, hey,

1221
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: use your legs and I was like okay, and then

1222
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: I score the next fourteen points in the last however

1223
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: many minutes and we win.

1224
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: You DT.

1225
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not stupid. I know her. She likes it.

1226
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: She she's waiting for someone to talk shit to her,

1227
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: like fuel me please. I told the team going into

1228
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: that series, I was like, nobody say a word alone,

1229
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: leave her alone. Don't don't poke the bear. It's so

1230
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: it's so tempting, like don't because maybe you get like

1231
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: you know that one play you get We're like, I

1232
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: don't know, you steal it from her, or like draw

1233
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: charge you do that one play you get hyped. That's

1234
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: all she needs, that's all she needs. So I'm not stupid.

1235
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: How is it feeled to be one half of the

1236
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: most powerful couples in the world.

1237
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that way. People say like

1238
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: power couple all the time. We're both like we're so boring.

1239
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: But y'all, y'all mean a lot to a lot of people.

1240
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people get joy into your relationship.

1241
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: But how is that to be you know, you always want.

1242
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: Somebody to appreciate your relationship and appreciate your significant other.

1243
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: So how is that and on the world Wise Girl

1244
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: scale for people to love y'all the way they do know.

1245
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: That that part, that part means a lot because obviously,

1246
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, we're a gay couple. We're able to live

1247
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: our lives. People can be inspired by that. You know.

1248
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: We also try to just be real. You know, it's

1249
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: like it's not always roses. We try to like, you know,

1250
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: show people that side of things too, and just be

1251
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: like a real couple. But obviously it is unique and

1252
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: that we're both like elite athletes in this way, we're

1253
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: both just at the Olympics. We both just meddled like

1254
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: it's insane. We understand that, but we just try to

1255
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: have fun with it for real, Like we just try to,

1256
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: like I said, be ourselves and have fun with it.

1257
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: A house, well she only has one.

1258
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: Hell, the president hates my girlfriend? Like, what what brought

1259
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: you to do that? And what how fun was it

1260
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: to do that?

1261
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 4: Article?

1262
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: In Yeah? Yeah, so yeah, I mean this was during

1263
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: Megan's you know World Cup run where you know, she

1264
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: said she didn't want to go to the White House

1265
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: and then you know Trump is, you know, tweeting at her,

1266
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: saying like, oh, you better win before you talk a while,

1267
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: like whatever he's saying. And it was just like a

1268
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: really intense time, you know, because that's like a that's

1269
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: a I don't even know what the right word would

1270
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: be other than intense, like to have the president, especially

1271
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: the type of president that incites, Yeah, violence happens, Yeah,

1272
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: like have him tweet at your girlfriend in these negative

1273
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: kind of ways. So it was just like a lot

1274
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: was happening. And the irony of the article shout out

1275
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: players tribut and it will help me write it. The

1276
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: irony of that is like the night or like two

1277
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: days before that, I was like, hey, Megan, maybe like

1278
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: you need to tone it down because like, you know,

1279
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: you don't know what create like, there's like crazy people

1280
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: like you don't know who's going to try to like

1281
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: get our address or I don't know, like you know,

1282
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: maybe tone it down. And then that article came out

1283
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: and she was like, oh, what happened to toning it down?

1284
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: I was like, well, someone had to have your back.

1285
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: But that's really what the article was.

1286
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: It was.

1287
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Speaker 2: It started out as kind of this like just Hey,

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: let's get hype for the game. They had a big

1289
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: game coming up, Like, let's get hype for it, let's talk,

1290
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: let's have fun like that's it really is like a

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00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: fun article because obviously I don't play soccer, and I'm

1292
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: kind of like making these predictions and I'm doing this

1293
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: different stuff. But it was great to kind of get

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00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: in this part of it where I got to have

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Speaker 2: her back, like publicly.

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Speaker 3: To somebody, like, you say, your career spans over twenty

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01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: you know, twenty years, and you've seen from not the

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01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: beginning but early on in w and you know a

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01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: lot of the things have changed and been getting better

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01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: for you ladies. How what do you think of the change?

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01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 3: Is what you being somebody who's kind of been able

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 3: to be part of the seeing everything as it's happening

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01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: to where it is now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the biggest change and the best thing

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01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: that's happened is our league is just like embracing who

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01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: it is, like who we are as people, what we represent.

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: I think for a long time, we tried to be

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: what we thought people wanted, you know, whether it was

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01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: like super feminine or whatever the case. You know, a

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01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: lot of times you might hear people say that we

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01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: should wear like, you know, tighter fitting uniforms like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: the ms. Like early on we were just trying to

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01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: like please, to try to get eyeballs on our game.

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01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: And I think now we've really just embraced who we are,

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: like individually but also collectively, and you can see like

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01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: people are just more drawn so like a genuine product

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01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: like authenticity, And I think that's been like a huge key,

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01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: and from there it can like you know, all these

1319
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: all these doors are going to open from there for

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01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: like again, like for individuals, like I could start naming

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01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: names of people who have these amazing deals now and

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: you didn't see it fifteen twenty years ago. But also

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01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: as a as a league, you're starting to see like

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: more interests. So I think that's been like a big, big,

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01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: big part.

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they seen Ridney grind and they talking

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: about law and the Ring.

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01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah nah, drop du.

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 4: Crazy.

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01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: I just love the way, you know, a lot of

1331
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: the lot of the WNBA stars are starting to you know,

1332
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: use a platform. You got some of the young girls

1333
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: having podcasts and Candice being on Turners, showing that you know,

1334
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: they could do different things. Yeah, coaching. Yeah, being all

1335
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 3: of those different things and still hooping and still coaching

1336
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 3: and doing all those things. So it's just dope to

1337
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: see them being, you know, giving those opportunities to step

1338
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 3: forward and show that they can do that too.

1339
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: Who are your favorite five women players? Like, You're not

1340
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: your time five, just your favorite five?

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01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: Jenz looking like, yeah, I mean it's hard not to pick,

1342
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: like some of the names you've already talked about, because

1343
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: obviously Diana is on there, Maya is on there. For sure,

1344
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: people are gonna start thinking of have a Yukon bias,

1345
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: Cheryl Swoops, charl Swoops. I absolutely loved playing with Tina Thompson.

1346
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: Loved Thompson. Now I'm just kind of thinking of them

1347
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: as they come to my head. Kapy is another one.

1348
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: People don't talk about Cappy enough. She was like Jewel Enerrique,

1349
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: what I was talking about? She was them before them.

1350
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was saying, Arique, that was the first.

1351
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: I was like, that's a lot of people said that. Yeah,

1352
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, so those are I can I could sit

1353
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: here and talk about this all day, like I can

1354
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: name names all day.

1355
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: They announced twenty five more players for the all time

1356
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: w N b a list and three of them players

1357
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: or your form of play. Yeah, to be announced to

1358
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: that that next list and to see Swin and DT

1359
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: and Lauren be a part of that, Like, how is

1360
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: that for you?

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01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: I think that's the best part. I think, you know,

1362
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: I could sit here and it's an honor, and I

1363
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: could sit here and talk about the honor of it.

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01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: I think the best part is like both seeing you know,

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01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: your friends make the list as well, Yeah, you know,

1366
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: people you played with, people you won with, have all

1367
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: these memories with, and then seeing you know, the Lisa

1368
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: Leslie's and the Chryl Swoops and understanding like I'm part

1369
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: of that group, you know what I mean, Like that's

1370
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: who I watched. I'm part of that group. So it's

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: kind of like mind going in that way. So I'm

1372
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: both like in awe of it all, but also like

1373
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: that it's pretty dope. I get to celebrate with my

1374
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: friends that we made this you know, amazing list that

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01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: is incredibly I mean, I don't even know how they picked.

1376
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: There's so many we could I could sit here and

1377
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: name another twenty five. Yeah, Like there's so many names

1378
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: that could be on it should be on it. So

1379
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: actually be on it is pretty incredible.

1380
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: Everybody love your swag, you know, your shoot game, your

1381
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: swag with you dress walk. Where do you get the

1382
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: swag from? Is this Stanlan? Is it queans me Long?

1383
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 4: I'm sorry? Is it? Where do you get the swash?

1384
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 4: Credit for the swag?

1385
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: Credit for the swag? I mean, I'm pretty sure the

1386
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: swag like got unlocked. When I met Megan, she kind

1387
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: of helped unlock.

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01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

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01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: I think it was like, you know, like we'll use

1390
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: clothes like I had the closer mind. She just kind

1391
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: of helped me like yeah and gave me, like really

1392
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: gave me confidence. She's like, wear it. Who cares? Like

1393
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: you look great? Wear it like and I'm okay. And

1394
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: then you start to see it doesn't even matter what

1395
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: you're wearing, which you kind of like, we.

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01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: Make it look good.

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01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1398
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: Do you acknowledge yourself as a as a as a

1399
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: kind of like a sneaker icon, like I see everybody

1400
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: be on you? What is.

1401
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't like yes and no? I mean like what

1402
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: I how I say it, how I joke about it?

1403
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: Like I literally didn't mean to be a sneaker head,

1404
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: like yeah, like I just liked them and like you,

1405
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys know how it is like you

1406
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: get so much, you get so much before you know

1407
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: it a little bit closet. Yeah, you're like, oh dang,

1408
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it spans over you know, ten, fifteen,

1409
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: twenty years I've been playing, so every year I get

1410
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: the reup on you know pees. They do a great

1411
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: job with my PE's for Seattle. And then of course

1412
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: nowadays the culture of it all the last couple of years,

1413
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: what like three four, five years has kicked up, and

1414
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 2: I was like, oh I have you know, so I

1415
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: have like I don't know, like the day last old dunks,

1416
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: I had the og ones, you know, and then you

1417
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: just keep them in your collection. Now of a sudden,

1418
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: it looks like you were wearing five hundred dollars pair of

1419
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: sshoe on shoes.

1420
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 4: You know when you have a girlfriend.

1421
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: Do you have the problem in the house of like,

1422
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do with these all these shoes? These

1423
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: shoes can't take up all the clouds of space.

1424
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 4: No shoes in the bedroom? Like do you have that from? Oh?

1425
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are we are in a bad place currently.

1426
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: See y'all both getting a lot of shoes, so it's

1427
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 3: not like you know, with us, it's kind of one

1428
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 3: side of you know, my wife like yo, but both

1429
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: of y'all got the same.

1430
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: Issues coming and we don't wear the same size. It's killer.

1431
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like a size and a half figure.

1432
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: It's just not And it's that.

1433
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 4: Close so you can't even tell us it was from

1434
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 4: the Naked Eye.

1435
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 2: You want to like these two Naked Eye talk about

1436
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: the box. It's like I'll open I'll be like, hey,

1437
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: they just sent me other years. That is the death

1438
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: blow right there gets me every time.

1439
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: All Right, man, that's been a wrap. This has been crazy.

1440
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: We live on location out here in Seattle, the Blackest One,

1441
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: the Legend, the Goat, Soup Barr.

1442
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 4: We appreciate you, Thank you, thanks, thank you.

1443
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: Get one time.

1444
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: We always do this on that look at it.

1445
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,120
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