1 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Fish and Filtered Episode fifty three. I'm your host, Kevin Barron, 2 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: and I'm here joined by my co host and good 3 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: friend Isaac. Isaac, what's up. It's been three weeks the 4 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: last time we were on here we were with us 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Skip and uh, not much has happened in terms of 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Marlin's years. You know, a couple of moves here and there, 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: the you know, Christian Bethickcord being the headliner. We'll get 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: into them in a little bit, but you know, a 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: couple of articles we get touched on that have come 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: out through you know, The Athletic and then obviously Craig 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Mish and Barry Jackson doing their usual couple of weeks 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: Marlin's Update articles. So what's up? And a couple of 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: stuff to dive into today. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to this. Like you said, it's been 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: a while since we recorded anything. Also, not a ton 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: of content to give you guys. I returned from the 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Winter meetings about we can half ago, and not a 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: lot happened on the Marlins Front show. 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 3: Hey, finally signed. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: You'd think Yamamoto is on the verge of signings, So 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: you think some of those dominoes once the Yamamoto Domino 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: falls that even more will start to come Glass not 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: getting traded, so we shall see. It should be a 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: fun second half of December for sure. 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: So it's always like and subscribe on YouTube, follow us 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts and wherever you can give 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: it a five star rating. And yeah, so let's get 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: right into it. Miami made a quick, small trade. They 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: acquired Christian Bethencourt from the Cleveland Guardians spend the twenty 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: twenty three season with the Tampa Bay Rays. This is 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: a This is essentially a Peter Bendix guy. R here 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: to Isaac, I mean, good defensive catcher for the most part. 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: He's kind of like the opposite of Nick Forth as 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: he's a good framer. He throws guys out very well, 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: but aside from that, he's not very good offensively. He 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: had a very nice twenty twenty two offensively, if you 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: want to make that case, you know, for his standards. 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: But he's been in the league for a very long 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: time and should be you know, good catching hand him 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: with Fortes and beth in Court for now at least, 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean, definitely is an upgrade over what Miami had 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: with Stallings last season. 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he upgrades in a couple of ways. Definitely, 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: you said Kevin not a ton of offensive prowess, but 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: I think he's got something that neither Stallings or Fortes 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: have a ton of, and that's a little bit of power. 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: He can select the ball a little bit. 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: I know Fortes had that pretty good twenty twenty two 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: season as well, where he cleared the fence a couple 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 2: of times, but as you saw last year, they just 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: could not hit the ball over the fence, either him 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: or Stallings. Beth and Court has the ability to do 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: that a little bit more. And like you mentioned, power 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: rifle behind the plate. Miami, it was well documented how 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: awful they were at controlling the running game parv. It 56 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: is on the pitching, and I think that you won't 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: see a huge upgrade in cought ceiling for Miami because 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it is the pitching 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: that really has a big factor. 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: That is a big factor for that. 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: But he'll definitely help nonetheless, And like I said, he 62 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: has got a cannon behind the plate. 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: Runner on the move and to throw down to get 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: him he is out at second basee Sanchez tagged out 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: by Wow, Dwayne. 66 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't think he could have walked the ball out 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: and put it in a better spot that Bethancourt did. 68 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: Literally, Sanchez had a tough pitch to handle. He slides 69 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: right into the gloves dead. It's a perfect throw. 70 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: And we're talking about it before we started recording. He 71 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: was pitching trying that two way player stuff in twenty 72 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: seventeen and since then he's sort of just been the 73 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: emergency position player pitching guy for the clubs that he's 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: been on. But I'm excited to see him spring training, 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: excited to see the arm. And I assume they're not 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: done addressing catching yet and. 77 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a little bit. But the 78 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: big thing with on there he is that's him thrilling. Yeah, 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: that guy is a cannon of an arm. I mean 80 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: it was on full display against the Marlins when they 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: were up in Tampa, but specifically the hazy Sanchris play 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: him going a third there and gotten stealing there. But 83 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: the thing with you know, this shouldn't come to any 84 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: surprises by any means when Miami acquired someone like Bethancourt, 85 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: you know you were there, Isaac. During spring training, Skip 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: mentioned that that they want someone who they want the 87 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: pitchers to feel comfortable throwing to. They want someone you know, defensive, 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: defensive catching more or less for the most part, you know, 89 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: he mentioned just they don't need, Yeah, they don't need, 90 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: but you can't always just focus on the offense. You 91 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: need that defense. And that's where you kind of start thinking, 92 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they aren't gonna go with that big name, 93 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, Mitch Garber, his money Grondalo type catcher, and 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna go with someone like Christian Bethancourt. And we'll 95 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: talk and I guess we'll quickly just mentioned, you know, 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: the other name that was floated around there, Andrew Kisner 97 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: from the Saint Louis Cardinals. He's a free agent. He 98 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: spent almost you know, the entirety of the twenty twenty 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: twenty three season with the Cardinals, and he is an 100 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: interesting case. He for the most part, it felt like 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: pitchers were a lot more comfortable catching, you know, being 102 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: caught by Andrew Kisner on that Cardinals staff. I mean, 103 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: we saw the move with Wilson Conturers going from catcher, 104 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: I believe, left field, So that shows just how comfortable 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: pitchers are, and that kind of fits the mold of 106 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: what skips during the winter meetings. This is a guy 107 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: who primarily hits right handed pitching, which is something Miami 108 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: struggled with Slash two sixty four three three four nineteen 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: seven thirty two against right handed pitching. So that is 110 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty convincing and it shouldn't surprise you. I mean, look 111 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: at a couple teams from the Rais. Those guys carry 112 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: three catchers sometimes on the rosters. I know last year 113 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: was I believe Francisco Mahia, Rene Pinto, and and then 114 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: you had Christian Bethancourt. So it shouldn't come to any 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: surprise that they would carry another catcher. And you know, 116 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: I believe Bethancourt didn't mention it wouldn't surprise if they 117 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: bring in another catcher. So, Isaac, your thoughts on Kissner 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: and we'll get into the other name that was discussing 119 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: that article in a bit. 120 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, Skip sort of. 121 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: Characterized what he would want behind the plate, and to me, 122 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: it'd be sort of like a twenty thirteen Jeff Mathis, 123 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: someone that pitchers love to throw to, someone that can 124 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: help someone like Edward Cabrera. It was Jeff Mathis was 125 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: Jose Fernandez's personal catch all the way through and they 126 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: want someone like that, and in my opinion, kids in 127 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: there sort of fits that Mold more than beth In Court. 128 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't think Bethan Court is one of those guys 129 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: that he knows an amazing pitch color, is an amazing blocker. 130 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: Like you said, Kisner sort of checks all those boxes 131 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: and he sort of fits that. Jeff mathis type role 132 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: a little bit more in my opinion, and they can 133 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: easily go with three catchers if they want to go 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: with him, beth In Court and Fortes. 135 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: I don't know they'll do that, but yeah, I would. 136 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: Definitely be happy with uh with because they're joining that 137 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: rotation of catchers because hey, you're gonna need more than two. 138 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: I know Miami didn't need more than two last year. 139 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: They only had the same two all year long, one 140 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: of the few teams to do that. But more is 141 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: more in this situation. 142 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And keep in mind fort does have minor league 143 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: options and all that stuff, so you know, you ever 144 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: have to send one of them down, that definitely could 145 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: be an option that I believe maybe Kin does. He 146 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: has one left, so a couple guys with minor league 147 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: options beth and Court. Obviously he's been in the league 148 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: for like eight years already he doesn't have any So 149 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: that's the other name for catcher obviously. Well, we'll see 150 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: what happens. You know, you have well Banfield still there, 151 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Paul McIntosh in the minor leagues. Those are the guys 152 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: who are closest them. Be ready, we will not mention 153 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Joe mac Benehastetler, another guy in Double A Pensacola there 154 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: who we'll see if he turns out to be a 155 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: spring training invitee. So that's really it on the catcher front. 156 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: The other name that was floated around in that same 157 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: article with Craig Mansion Barry Jackson was Isaiah Kiner Fileffo. 158 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: He spent a twenty twenty three season with the Yankees. 159 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Uh spent twenty twenty two at shortstop. So that's the 160 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: big thing. This would essentially be the Marlins starting shortstop 161 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: come over any day. I know, Isaac, you were not 162 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: a big fan of filefa if if he does end 163 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: up coming to Miami, but I mean you look at 164 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: it the defenses, it's gold glove caliber. I mean it 165 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: would be likely the best defensive shortstop they would have since. 166 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Migiuro, well since Joey Wendele. I guess you could say too, 167 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: but well it was pretty good. Yeah, he won the 168 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: Gold Glove in a twenty twenty shortened season. He's just 169 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: been so underwhelming at the plate. You can see he's 170 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: not a huge guy, doesn't generate a lot of power. 171 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: You don't need a ton of power. 172 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: But for that same price, I would suggest Tim Anderson. 173 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: I know it sounds awful, but at least he's got 174 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: some sort of offensive upside there. It's an awful defender, 175 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: but you know what I think right now with this team, 176 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: they need offense assuming Soleira doesn't return, And yeah, I KF. 177 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm a. 178 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Huge fan of that acquisition if it were to come, 179 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: it were to happen, but we shall see how it goes, 180 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: because shortstop is definitely something they need. Peter Bendix in 181 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: Nashville kept saying, how if the season started today, they're 182 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: pretty comfortable with what they have internally in John Birdie, 183 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: beat All Brew, Haan Xavier Edwards. I'm missing one more, 184 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: but yeah, they could definitely use an everyday shortstop guy, 185 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: and to me, someone like Tim Anderson and John Birdi 186 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: are more that guy than IKF. 187 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: I guess, just looking back at Craig's article, anything else 188 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: that stood out to you from what you read there. 189 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there's really much else. 190 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: But no, no, it wasn't one of the more fun reading. 191 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: Underwhelming, Yes, So I guess we could move on to 192 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: the big topic, which was the Ken Rosenthal article. I 193 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: mean that was we had kind of heard about it 194 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe Miami is shopping names such as 195 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers and Cabrera, and then you go into this 196 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: article and it's specifically on Hazel's Lozardo, and this is 197 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: a name that I do not think any Marlins fans 198 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: would have seen pop up in trade discussions after the 199 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: great twenty twenty three he had, how good he was 200 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: at career high innings. I mean, this is a team 201 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: that just a year ago traded Pablo Lopez and they 202 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: still found themselves with in need of pitching. And I 203 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: think this is something that Kim mentioned last year, not Peter. 204 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: You never can have enough pitching and that's the one 205 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: thing that they need. And you know, now you're looking 206 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: at trade one right now in the Lozardo. So Isaac, 207 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: we know you had mentioned that Anthony Volpi trade situation, 208 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, trade and I'll let you have your moment 209 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: with it, but just your thoughts on the on the 210 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: reporting here of Ken rosenbl You also mentioned Edward Cabrera 211 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: who has five years of club controller. Yeah, and Luzardo 212 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: has three. So it's a lot. I mean, Miami essentially 213 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: would be getting a lot in return. 214 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: Now, this is a where Miami's at right now without 215 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: Sandial Concert for the entire season. This is a spot 216 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: where Lozardo is your race and you don't want to 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: trade him. Right in a perfect world, you don't trade him. 218 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: You extend him. You keep Carbert, you keep all these 219 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: guys because right now you have Lozardo, Yuri Braxton, and 220 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: then you hope Caberta can put it all together. 221 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: You hope Trevor Rodgers is healthy. That's about it. 222 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: You have Max Meyer hoping he can be a starter. 223 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: So you don't have a ton of options. You want 224 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: seven to ten guys you go into spring training, but 225 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: they have Peter Bendix and the Ray's model has been 226 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: to once these pitchers get to their peak and they 227 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: start arbitration, which Lozardo is at both. 228 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: Those things right now. 229 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: He's at his peak, and he's about to become a 230 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: little expensive. I believe the number for him is five 231 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 2: point nine million. I want to say. 232 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: So. 233 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the race tend to trade the players in this situation, 234 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: and for Luzardo, there is no one on the Marlins that. 235 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: Would bring you a bigger haul than him. 236 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: Maybe from Europe, but obviously I assume he's off the table. 237 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: But Luzaro, you can go to any team and you 238 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: can get a blue chip prospect from any one of 239 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: those guys. You can get young major leaguers. They can 240 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: help you immediately. I don't think that's the route they 241 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: would go so with him, I don't see him going 242 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: to the West Coast. I do see him going to 243 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: the Yankees maybe if that were to happen. I'm not 244 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: sure if this will. This pure speculation on my part, 245 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: but the Yankees need pitching, the Marlins need a short stop. 246 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 2: Imagine they acquire Lozarda. I think Yamamoto goes to New 247 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: York as well. Imagine that with Garrett Cole, Yamamoto, Luzardo Rodin, 248 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: that is a heck of a starting rotation for the Yankees. 249 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: They'll be giving away their number one guy. They're starting 250 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: shortstop with the future. But hey, they're getting their second 251 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: third ace and I think that would make them an 252 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: unstoppable ball club. In that aleaseh would confirm an Alas 253 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: Division title and the Marlins would be getting their everyday shortstop. 254 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: This guy was twenty twenty in his rookie year. While 255 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: not hitting. 256 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: The cover off the ball, tearing the cover off the ball, 257 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: he plays fantastic defensive short stop up and he would 258 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: become a fan favorite immediately. So if I'm in mister 259 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Peter Bendix's shoes, that's a trade that it would be 260 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: very tough. But you know what, when I floated it 261 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: on Twitter, it alienated both fan bases, and you know 262 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: what that means. It means that it was a good 263 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: deal if both sides feel like they got screwed. 264 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: So that's my deal. 265 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: As you see on the screen if you're watching on YouTube, 266 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: Anthony Volpi and Clay Holmes to help the Marlins right 267 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: handed bullpen situation in exchange for Hazel Uzardo and George Soriano. 268 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: It is approved by Baseball Trade Simulator. Never to put, 269 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: you know, too much weight on this website. 270 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: I just thought of it. Luzardo for Volti one for one. 271 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: And then I wanted to make it a little bit closer, 272 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: maybe address some other needs for each club. 273 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: And that's the trade. 274 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Even with you know, an eighty four WRC plus and 275 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of some underwhelming stats for Volte, still hit, still 276 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: give you twenty one home runs and that's something no 277 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: Marlin shortstop has Beenstin's, I guess is the last one 278 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: arrives that in the air and right field and Deep 279 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: Carpenter back racing over that is gone a three run 280 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: over for Anthony Volpie to tie the game with two 281 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: outs in the ninth. 282 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: This would be a heck of a risky move in 283 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: my opinion, because Volpie's got some flaws. He strikes out 284 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: way more than I would have liked for someone they're 285 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: going to be trading Uzarda for. 286 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: So it'd be a tough one. But that's just my fantasy. 287 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: And everyone that I've spoken to says, you know what, 288 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: it's a fair trade, issing three years of Lozardo for 289 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: five years of Vulpi. 290 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: Send it it, yeah, exactly. 291 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: I mean I don't hate it, but you know, with 292 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: what Miami needs right now, and on top of that, 293 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: they're still looking for pitching. I mean, these guys are 294 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: claiming guys left and right, and you still need pitching. 295 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: You still need at least one more starter that you 296 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: could count on, and even if it's you know, some hot, 297 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, long relief type of guy. And I know 298 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: in that same article with with Mish and Barry, they 299 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: were mentioned George Sorian and I'm glad that you met 300 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: a guy in the trade. It's fine, but yeah, I mean, 301 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: that's another guy who was the starter just a year ago. 302 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: So they need starting pitching. And as much as I 303 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: don't hate the trade honestly, because you get Vulpin Holmes, 304 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: who both had very nice seasons for New York, still 305 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: got to keep lose Arda some way, somehow. But the 306 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: other name to throw out there was Edward Caberra. This 307 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: is kind of a weird situation. Miami seems like they've 308 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: been trying to trade him for a couple of years now. 309 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: We know that there was that Colorado deal last season 310 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: last offseason with Brendan Rodgers that thankfully did not go 311 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: through because Miami would not have had Brendan Rodgers for 312 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: the majority of the season. And there's still a long 313 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: way to go for Edward. I mean, he just couldn't 314 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: throw strikes. I think it's the best way to put it. 315 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: Where you see as valuyuys like this guy with five 316 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: years left to club control. He's not an arbitration yet, 317 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: I believe, and this is a very good pitcher when 318 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: he is at his best. I mean, you thought this 319 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: guy was an all star in your bold predictions, So. 320 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: Just what is it twentyths? Just two years ago? This 321 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: guy was the uri price of assisting. 322 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: You know, this was a number one prospect, the consensus 323 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: number one guy, better stuff than six though, some people 324 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: in the Marlins organization told me better stuff than Sandy 325 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: and he needs to throw strikes. He needs to throw strikes. 326 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: They definitely see him as a starter. From what I've 327 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: been told, is no thoughts of moving to the bullpen yet, 328 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: and I would agree with that. You got to give 329 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: him at least another half season to prove it. I 330 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: think he came into spring training last year a little 331 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: bit out of shape. I think his head wasn't all 332 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: in there. During the regular season. You saw him get 333 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: demoted Triple A Jacksonville in the middle of the season 334 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: and call back up. I think they got to give 335 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: him another at least three months in the major leagues 336 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: as a starter to see what happens. But right now 337 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: he's penciled in as their number four or five starter and. 338 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: They need him. 339 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: And if he shows twenty twenty one glimpses, then hey, 340 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: you got a heck of a number four. And I 341 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: think he's got the potential to be the number two 342 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: starter eventually. I think he's really really good. He's got 343 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: every pitch in the guy could want in his arsenal. 344 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: So we shall see when it comes to his value 345 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: on the trade market. I don't know what it would be, 346 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: I have obviously it'd be less than Lozardo's. But he's 347 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: got five years of control, has that crazy prospect pedigree, 348 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: sort of like Lozardo. 349 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 350 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: If I don't know how other teams would value Edward 351 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: Carberra at this exact moment, I can tell you that. 352 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, not much too much else to take 353 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: away from that From that article from the Athletic, I 354 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: just you know, I guess good work from Ken Rosenthal. 355 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: So just to kind of wind down here, we'll just 356 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: go through a couple of targets, you know, we'll say 357 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: free agent and trade targets, because right Now it's kind 358 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: of looking like Miami will not do very much on 359 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: either end. Maybe I think they'll do less on the 360 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: free agent market than the trade market, but is already 361 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: mentioned Volpi. Anyone else you want to throw out their 362 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: trade or free agent? 363 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about kids and over there, and 364 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: they spend a lot of time with the Cardinals. 365 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: We were speaking about Beth and Court. 366 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: Another catcher that I just like for personal reasons in 367 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: the Cardinal system, who honestly would be a really big 368 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: addition for Miami's backstop needs. Would be Page Pages. He 369 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: is in the Cardinals double a affiliate. He's been added 370 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: to the forty men roster, so I'm not sure if 371 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: they'd be willing to part with him. But he's pretty 372 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: down in the depth chart for the Cardinals catching options. 373 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: But he's someone that has hit with power and he 374 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: is known as a tremendous defensive backstop, and I think 375 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: he would be someone that pitchers would love to throw 376 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: it to. He's obviously shown it at the upper levels 377 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: of the miners and I think he'd be He's a 378 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: local Miami kid, so I think he's someone that Miami 379 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: could could inquire him on. 380 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll go and mention free agent. I don't think this 381 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: guy's gonna be Miami's price range, but to Oscar Hernandez 382 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: is definitely a name that Miami should at least consider. 383 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Good year with Seattle one oh five WRC plus the 384 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: strikeout ranges a little, it's pretty high. Actually thirty one 385 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: percent doesn't walk very much. But aside from that, give 386 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: you twenty six home runs ninety three RBIs you know 387 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: that's what Miami needs or losing STI Larry, you need 388 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: to get your home runs back in some some sort 389 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: of way, and that's what Taoscar Hernandez does bring you. 390 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: So that's the name I would like to throw out there. 391 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't know Miami needs a first 392 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: baseman unless you want to throw out the name Rehee 393 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: Hoskins maybe to kind of rebuild his value. That wouldn't 394 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: hurt either, But anyone else you want to throw out 395 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: there before we continue. 396 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: A fun, fun trade target. I don't know if these 397 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: guys are trading Pete Alonzo. I don't know what they're 398 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: gonna do with him, but that would be just a 399 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: perfect man to put in the middle of your line 400 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: of be gh either him or Bell and there you go, 401 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: you replace so Lare. I don't know if Miami even 402 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: has the assets to swing that, but if they are 403 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: looking to trade Pee Alonzo, I don't know if they'll 404 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: even do it within the division, but that would be 405 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: a heck of a trade. Another free agent guy i'll 406 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: give you Kevin would be Zach Grankey. 407 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: I think it'd be wrong. 408 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: To Kansas City. 409 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: I don't know how that would go. 410 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: But I that'd be a fun one, you know'd be 411 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: Miami needs starting pitching, and especially if they decide to 412 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: move one of either Luzardo or Braxton, they definitely need 413 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: another event like that. It could be someone like Urania, 414 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: just someone who they can whether the storm, speaking of 415 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 2: whether the storm Ryan weathers. They see him in more 416 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: of a of a swing role as well, from what 417 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: I understand, than not as a starter. I know he 418 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: had that great end of the year, great start to 419 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: end the year in twenty twenty three, but everyone's bags 420 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: were packed. No one gave a shit about that game, 421 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: So I think they see it more as a swing piece. 422 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, Zach Grianky, he knows you know, he can 423 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: give you innings. He might get shelled while doing it, 424 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: but he'll give you some innings for sure, and that's 425 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: immensely valuable for major league teams. 426 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: A name all throughout there's not a very nice season 427 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: for Minnesota was Joey Gallo. I mean, if you need 428 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: a backup guy, you need a VH doesn't hurt. He 429 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: had a very nice season for the Twins, a very 430 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: good comeback season. I guess you could mention that just 431 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: struggling with the Yankees and Dodgers in that twenty twenty 432 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: two season. But man, I mean, if there's one thing 433 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: that stood out was forty two percent strikeout right. I mean, geez, 434 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: that's the highest of his career in over one hundred 435 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: games play. So that's I don't love the profile. 436 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: It's like a left handed Adam Duval. 437 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't love the he strikes out so much, Joe, 438 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: but light tower power. 439 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: And it's fine with light tower power. 440 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's what Bendix is gonna 441 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: target there. 442 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Like Tommy fam. 443 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: I remember I said that. 444 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: I think it was last off season I said Tommy 445 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: fam should be Miami center fielder, and he had a 446 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: great year. I just don't see Miami spending a ton 447 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: of money, if any money this offseason. I think it's 448 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: all gonna be via trades. Rather, it's to replenish the 449 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: system or to maybe supplement the major league roster a 450 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: little bit. It's not going to be a very exciting 451 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: off season for sure. The payrolls already at assuming all 452 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: the arbitration numbers are accurate, I believe it's already at 453 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: ninety seven million, which is pretty high for this ball club. 454 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: So I can see them moving on from some guys 455 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: with high arbitration numbers like Luzardo. And the thing is 456 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: with Braxton, you would obviously we'd all rather know. We 457 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: all he's a very very nice guy, but you would 458 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: probably rather part with him. Thing is, I don't know, 459 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: he's not gonna get you as much as Luzardo, and 460 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: he's got more years of control, so you probably keep 461 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: him over Lozardo in this situation. So I'm very curious 462 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: to see how they handle they starting pitching trade acquisitions. 463 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think aside from that, there's not much 464 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: more to go into. I think the only other name 465 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: we'll mention I think you quickly touched on Tim Anderson 466 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: at this point. It's worth throwing the name out there 467 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: as much as I wouldn't like him on the Marlins. 468 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: He was very good. He was a very good baseball 469 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: player just a couple of seasons ago. This was a 470 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: very weird season for him. Very not good, I guess 471 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: is the best way to put. He was very bad. 472 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: And I think we've thrown We've mentioned him many times. 473 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: He is not a good defense with shortstop. That would 474 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: be a huge downgrade in terms of defense. But it's 475 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: actually that, I mean anything else sides like before we 476 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: wrap up already twenty minutes in pretty short episode on 477 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: our end, But you know, when we're times like this 478 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: where Christian beth in Court is the highlight move, there's 479 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: not much more to say. 480 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thing with beth in Court, like 481 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: I said earlier, that he can slug a little bit. 482 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: The guy just does not get on bass. He does 483 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: not get on bass, and neither and neither does Tim Anderson. 484 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: And I don't know how many we've asked Peter Bennix 485 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: a million times, what is your ideal hitting profile for 486 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: these guys? You know, the philosophy last year of Kim was, 487 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: you know, get guys that are good pure hitters. 488 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: What is yours? 489 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: And he said good ballplayers well, you know, it doesn't 490 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: give us any information there. But I don't know if 491 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: Tim Anderson is one of those guys that I think 492 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: you want to have guys that get on base at 493 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: least if they strike out, fine, but they have to 494 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: get on base to make up for it a little bit. 495 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: But he does both of those things. But we shall see. 496 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: I assume he'd be able to Minam could afford him, 497 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: so I think that's a possibility. 498 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: Yep. 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