1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: It's now time to bring on Jerry Jones, owner and 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: general manager of the Dallas Cowboys. And look, Jerry, you 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: came into this month coming off a win at Minnesota. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: You're at six and one. You're looking ahead to three 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: of the next four games at home, with three of 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: those teams at five hundred or worse, and now one 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: in three. Can you give us your level of frustration 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: with what has transpired with this group over the last 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: three weeks. Well, I've quickly gone to what we all 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: should be doing for the most part on Thanksgiving, and 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the best parts of where we sit. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed that these last four ball games have 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: evolved the way we have. On the other hand, I'm 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: going directly to how things look as we get into 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: the last six games and hopefully into the playoffs. You 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: had to look forward. Yesterday's is dead as Napoleon. It's gone, 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: and so we have to look at how to improve. 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: And the sky is not falling when you look at 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: the six games ahead that we have. The Calvary is coming. 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: We've got to take a deep breath and remember that 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: when this time of years, normally when you're dealing with 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: attrition you normally are dealing with a depleted situation in 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: your personnel. Here we come with fresh legs and a 24 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: healthy Randy greg reed to Marcus Lawrence to go along 25 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: with Michael Parsons to create some problems for the offenses 26 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: that we're going to play, and they're right, they're coming 27 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: in quickly. We've got Gallimore that should possibly have been 28 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: a starter from day one for us, and that we've 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: got coming in. And I'm talking about on the defense. Now, 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of young guys play, and I'm 31 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: not just trying to harm Way, but they have played 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: and got a lot of reps in. There'll be a 33 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: lot better for it as we get on end too 34 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: the last six games. So I do see the ingredients 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: for improvement now, names but more than names. But you've 36 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: got to you've got to really make sure that we 37 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: realize where our shortcomings are. And I believe very candidly 38 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: that those are so obvious. We went into that game 39 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: yesterday to put pressure on that quarterback. He's outstanding when 40 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: he's not pressure. And while we had some pressure from 41 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: time to time with Parsons and some from the interior, 42 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: we just didn't get the kind of pressure you have 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to get on him. We went into that game wanting 44 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: to with our running game being a dominant part of it, 45 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: and we didn't get to get that done. I see 46 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: ways that we can get it done, because the better 47 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: we play on defense, the more opportunities will give us 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: on our hits. Yeah, you know, we've been talking about 49 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: it a little today, and I brought up the fact 50 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: that the last two Super Bowl winning teams had gone 51 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: through stretches in the season that were somewhat similar to 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: what you've had over the last three weeks. How much 53 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: of that will you try or will Mike McCarthy maybe 54 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: try to instill in this group where you are moving forward? Well, 55 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: I think that I can remember a Thanksgiving game that 56 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: leon Let, one of my favorite people, coach leon Let 57 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 1: for us, but we will on Thanksgiving Day and play 58 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: in Miami. He slid through the end zone, inexplicably hit 59 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: the ball, it goes out. They beat us, and it 60 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: looked like the sky had fallen, and we won the 61 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and so certainly win. Like yesterday's disappointing, I mean, 62 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm lost, like yesterday's very disappointing, and don't want to 63 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: take anything away from other Raiders, they basically took advantage 64 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: of what the situation was and we didn't. But still, 65 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: when you look at really deep down, how we're going 66 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: to approach New Orleans, how we're going to approach two 67 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: games of Washington, Philadelphia the Jats, and then look at Arizona, 68 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: we've got we've got some good options and can win 69 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: those games, and not one of them that were not 70 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: capable of winning. Well, that's a that really in the NFL, 71 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: where no one expects to go undefeated, everyone understands how 72 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: even these teams can be, especially personnel wise, that wildcard 73 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: is usually availability the injury factor. We look good there 74 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: on the injury factor at this point. Jerry Jones with 75 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: us here on one O five through the Fan. Jerry, 76 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: one of the big stores yesterday the penalties, and I 77 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: got a bigger picture question as far as the pass 78 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: interferences are concerned. Not necessarily specific to yesterday, but when 79 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: I watched the NFL every week, there are inevitably games 80 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: that I don't want to say are decided by a 81 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: big pass interference call, but significantly impacted. It's the most 82 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: impactful penalty this sport has. I know it's not easy 83 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: for referees to officiate that particular interaction between a defensive 84 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: player and a receiver. I'm curious from your perspective if 85 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: there are things the league can do moving forward this 86 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: offseason and beyond to have a better way of adjudicating 87 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: such a game changing penalty, Whether it is re evaluating 88 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: the review that seemed to fail a couple of years ago, 89 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: having different levels of pass interference, which is something Brad 90 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Sham brought up earlier, or do you just have to 91 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: leave it as is. It just seems like it's such 92 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: a big penalty and it is called so inconsistently week 93 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: to week. Well, look at the overview. The thing that 94 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: is always hovering over is do you want more offense 95 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: or do you want to help the defense? In terms 96 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: of the game, how you want the game? The game itself, 97 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: I think has never ever been more entertaining since the 98 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: thirty years I've been involved in the NFL, and this 99 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: has always been the topic keeps you will about how 100 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: to structure the penalties that we have right now and 101 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: how they're called. Frankly, we're on the books. When I 102 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: came into the league, all they did was enforce. All 103 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: we're doing is enforceom It's always been that you couldn't 104 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: touch a receiver after five yards down the field. It 105 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: was just called differently. Remember the old baseball behind the 106 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: plate umpires were talking and one says, when it's a strike, 107 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: he said, cuts that corner. He said, I call it 108 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: a strike. I call it, And the other one looked 109 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: at him and said, when the ball comes through there, 110 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: no matter where it is, if it's a strike or 111 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: a ball, it's up to me. I call it. And 112 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: so there's no such thing as it. It's how we 113 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: call it. And the yesterday we had a game that 114 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: probably will have more viewers than any game of than 115 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and that game was frankly decided. It 116 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: really wasn't biased, but it was decided by an understanding 117 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: of how the game was going to be called. And 118 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: when you realize that that ball was probably going to 119 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: get a pass in afference call when he goes down 120 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: the field with any contact at all. Their games where 121 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: they're bumping and grabbing and doing all kinds of things, 122 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: and those aren't called. That's a part of the nuances 123 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: of basically making adjustments. I can sit here with you 124 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: and we can change some of those key things out 125 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: on detail, and I'll assure you will be going over 126 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: at nauseam. Stephen is only my son. Stephen is on 127 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: the Competition committee, and they'll take this issue and they 128 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: will look at literally now thousands of plays and come 129 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: up with how to go forward with the idea and 130 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: mind how much do we want to move the game 131 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: as to being able to have plays have really have 132 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the scoring be where we want it to be. In league, 133 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: you have to have usually in a drive, you have 134 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: to have a play of twenty yards or more. Those 135 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: big plays are a big elements you can't have usually 136 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: a penalty that is five yards or ten yards that 137 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: usually sets you back. Those are facts. Well, if you 138 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: create those big twenty yard plays by just throwing that 139 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: ball down field and you're likely to get a penalty, 140 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: that's the way to play the game for that for 141 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: that group of officials. Us it's just it's just something 142 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: that will always be a subject when we when we're 143 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: trying to look at how the game goes forward. You know, 144 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: on our offensive line, for instance, years ago, we let 145 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: those tackles put a foot back. Used to be the 146 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: tackles had to had to have your feet both of 147 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: them right on the line of scrammage. Now you can 148 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: line up at an angle. Well, that really assists the 149 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: tackles in protecting the quarterback. We did that for better offense. 150 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: We did to protect the quarterback. Jerry, I know that 151 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the game has not ever boiled down to one play, 152 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: but one of the things we've discussed this morning, that 153 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: third and eighteen pass interference seemed like perhaps that was 154 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: a situation where that particular defensive play call didn't make 155 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: a ton of sense with one safety as opposed to 156 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: two being in man as opposed to zone. I'm not 157 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: sure how much time you've had to maybe evaluate that 158 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: particular play and discuss it with the coaching staff or not, 159 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: But did you feel like that play call in that 160 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: third and eighteen situation put the defense in specifically maybe 161 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, in the best position to succeed. Yeah, since 162 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: we got the call, the mass logical, but playback play 163 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: solved and try to hold him in that try to 164 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: hold him up within that eighteen yard that was especially 165 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: the way the game was being called, You could second 166 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: guess that called. Okay, yeah, curious on that because you 167 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: know what we see on the television end of it, 168 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: or whether you're in the stadium and seeing how the 169 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: game is played out. You know, having man coverage is 170 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: allowing you to maybe come after the quarterback. Was it 171 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: maybe a frustration on your end at what you have 172 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: seen from this group and getting after the quarterback wasn't 173 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: as effective yesterday? Yeah, you know, play calling defensively or 174 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: offensively different play callers. Some are more emotional than others, 175 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the play callers, and some will take what's happening to 176 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: them and they will react sometime with less logic and 177 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: more more emotion. And you say, well, I don't want 178 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: that guy flying the ship for me, Well, yes you do. 179 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things, the human element of 180 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: this thing that's making the game the great game that 181 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: it is. And for instance, before a game, you will 182 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: see data on the coordinator or the play caller in 183 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: his history of what happens when he gets hit by 184 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: a big play. Then he will loosen up or he 185 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: will tighten up. And it's an emotional thing, not necessarily 186 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: the thing that statistically makes the most sense. And so 187 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: you've got a chess game going on here between the 188 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: personalities of play callers. Now, what's my point. My point 189 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: is that those nuances that are going on out there 190 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: in the right defense, right offense. It's not just execution, 191 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: it is scheme, and sometimes the scheme is dictated by 192 00:12:54,200 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the personal personal characteristics of the play callers. Hey, Jerry. 193 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: One of the things we discussed earlier was that the 194 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: lost yesterday is going to make it very difficult for 195 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to come away with the top seed in 196 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: the NFC, and this year, where only one team gets 197 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: a buy, perhaps there's there's more of a delineation between 198 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: the first and second seed, and that doesn't guarantee anything. 199 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: But the other thing we talked about is the parody 200 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: perhaps in the NFC. And I don't know if you've 201 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: watched so closely that you have your own power rankings, 202 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: but is there a particular NFC team that strikes you 203 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: as one that might present the biggest challenge or how 204 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: would you assess the NFC at this point and some 205 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: of the teams that could stand in the way of 206 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys want to ultimately go. Well, I'm going 207 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: to make my comments based on really this place we 208 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: found ourselves, maybe like you would if you were looking 209 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: at Tampa this time last year we ended up being 210 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: World champions you might not have picked Tampa in your 211 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: top four or five last year. At this juncture. There 212 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: is a lot to be determined here on the strength 213 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: of these teams. I think the number one thing is 214 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: the availability of your players and key players people that 215 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean. Teams that lose their quarterback obviously between now 216 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: and the playoffs in that area are going to be 217 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: more handicapped and should I don't know which ones those 218 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: are going to be, if any, but you can go 219 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: right down to the positions and make that I think 220 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: that's the single most important ingrediment is what personnel you 221 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: have available when you get to the playoffs, and obviously 222 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: how you're playing. Invariably through the course of a season, 223 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: teams get shut down in what they were doing well 224 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: weeks earlier, and that's a part of the journey or 225 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: the competition of the game. And so you'll have a 226 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: team doing something right now that will begin to do 227 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: something else, they'll start gelling, they'll get some personnel back, 228 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: and I can answer you a question then when we've 229 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: played those last maybe those last two games of the 230 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: regular season. It's a it's a moving target, completely legitimate 231 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: to be sitting here talking about which ones have would 232 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: you would try to avoid in the playoffs. You can 233 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: do that, but you've got to realize that's going to 234 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: change invariably. It will definitely change. Last thing, Jerry, A 235 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of people have asked us about Ceedee Lamb, and 236 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: I think you might have addressed this yesterday, but I 237 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: know not everyone was able to hear or read what 238 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: you said. But what could you walk us through why 239 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Cedee Lamb was I guess apparently cleared but ultimately did 240 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: not play, and why that was the best decision for 241 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: him in the short and long term. Everything that CD showed, 242 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: if you will, his symptoms, his play practice, everything passed 243 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: our trainers and our doctor's protocol. There is a third part. 244 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: There is a third input, and it's a arms length protocol, 245 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: and that's what he didn't pass. The third and that's 246 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: a medical person, a doctor, and he looked at it 247 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: and advice that he not play. Jerry, we know you're 248 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: very proud with what the organization and what you've all 249 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: been able to do with Salvation Army and everything that 250 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: transpired that leads up to Thanksgiving and into the holiday season. 251 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: To you and yours, happy Thanksgiving and congratulations on that level. 252 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: Of success. Despite the loss yesterday, I want to think 253 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: it has been twenty five years since we took the 254 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: Red Kettle, that in its own way as a part 255 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: of America, and that the Salvation Army has been using 256 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: as an extra bomp and what the Salvation Army does 257 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: as Santa Claus and we put that on television and 258 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: attached it to that game. Well, yesterday maybe as many 259 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: as sixty or seventy million people were reminded about what 260 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: the Salvation Army does in their community. Tremendous asset, bigger 261 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: than I could have ever dreamed. It has evolved and 262 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: really made a huge, huge contribution to raising three billion 263 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: dollars over the last twenty five years. That's the power 264 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: of that television. It is truly remarkable. Thank you so much, Jerry, 265 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you guys.