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Speaker 1: Advice Shove never Welcome through the Naughty, Bad Night Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host from showing time. It's Thursday, which means

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Looper joins us, Hey, Loopie, are

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Speaker 1: you there? Louby Leui is here? Believe I know you're

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Speaker 1: there because we were just gossiping before I hit record.

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Speaker 1: Can't help that sounds do I see you? We don't

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Speaker 1: even say hello, We're straight into the gossip. Mark, I'm

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Speaker 1: so comfortable when I when we see each other rediscored

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Speaker 1: right into it. When you walk into Bottos before your

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Speaker 1: bottom even hits the chair, I'm like, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to believe it, and then start and then four hours

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Speaker 1: later where you roll out, which is really what this

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Speaker 1: podcast is based on. It's a shorter version and a

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Speaker 1: less alcohol fuel like gossip. And I think that's part

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Speaker 1: of the success of it is that everybody on this

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Speaker 1: show is an entertainment reporter, gossip columnists, works in the business.

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Speaker 1: We know this stuff, and so I think, unlike other

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Speaker 1: shoes who have the beautiful hosts, we are beautiful, but

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Speaker 1: have the beautiful hosts who are not really gossip entertainment

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Speaker 1: reporters insiders, we are. We do this for a living

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Speaker 1: every single day and we love doing it with you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what time is it, my friends? It is tea time.

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Speaker 1: So we've got a big breaking story at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show. Late last night, Jesse Smellette was released

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Speaker 1: from jail during an appeal, So he's officially already out

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Speaker 1: of jail, following a decision earlier by the accurt to

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Speaker 1: cut short his hundred and fifty day sentence pending appeal.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people think he's out, he's innocent,

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Speaker 1: it was a mistake. That's not true. Mark. What's happened

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Speaker 1: here is that his appeal is going to move forward,

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Speaker 1: and they decided while appeal moved forward, he would be

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Speaker 1: let out on bonds, So we had to pay a

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. He actually hasn't had to

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Speaker 1: dig into his pockets yet, but if he skips any

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Speaker 1: court dates, he's going to have to pay that. Also.

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Speaker 1: On his way out of court, he didn't speak. He

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Speaker 1: spoke a lot when he went to remember that I'm

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Speaker 1: not suicide at all, so he spoke a lot walking in.

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Speaker 1: On the way out, he didn't say anything, but his

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Speaker 1: attorney did speak, saying he had just survived on water,

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Speaker 1: just water for six days. He looked a little, a

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Speaker 1: little frail. Now he's moving forward with this appeal. It's tricky, Mark,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen all the evidence. We've seen this trial.

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of evidence. Maybe there's a technicality, maybe

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Speaker 1: that will happen, But I think the public are always

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Speaker 1: going to think he's guilty. He was once convicted, he's out,

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Speaker 1: now he's appealing it. I would have argued, I think

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Speaker 1: it would have been better for his career to just

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Speaker 1: it's almost like ripping a band age off, off off

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Speaker 1: a wound. I would have stayed in jail for five months,

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Speaker 1: But he's fighting this Mark, he's still fighting. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? I think I totally agree. I think that

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Speaker 1: this be uh And I think in a lot of

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Speaker 1: I think, to your point, his career it feels over,

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Speaker 1: it feels done. It does feel done. Doesn't It also

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Speaker 1: too having to go through another trial. It's not smart

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot more drama in the courtroom. Hey, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I will say this. You know, Jesse is a lovely man.

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Speaker 1: still support him. Um. He was perfectly fine and lovely

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Speaker 1: Americans are fantastic at forgiving people. When a celebrity messes up,

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Speaker 1: five months could have already been done. It could have

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Speaker 1: keep you in the loop. A Moving along to what

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Speaker 1: was going to be a lead story, Britney spears wants

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Speaker 1: to be feared because being nice got her taken advantage of.

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Speaker 1: the following quote, don't ever pity me. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be loved, and I want to be feared. Being

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Speaker 1: take your pity and go f yourselves being kind kind Mark.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather be feared or love? Oh? I think

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Speaker 1: Although Brittany certainly goodness gracious, after thirteen years in a conservatorship,

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Speaker 1: we broke this story. First, Brittany has deactivated her Instagram account.

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Speaker 1: Brittany has sold a fifteen million dollar book. When you

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Speaker 1: So publisher was like, shut up, stop giving it away

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Speaker 1: of the day. Britney spears would rather be feared because

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Speaker 1: being nice got her taken advantage? Job? Would you rather

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Speaker 1: be feared? Oh? Lovely? Know what Mark wants? What you

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Speaker 1: I gotta go one for you, Rob. Trevor Noah is

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Speaker 1: So Trevor Rob, I didn't know this, but he apparently

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Speaker 1: and all this, he said thost things can be true,

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Speaker 1: But you can be both. You can be harassed and

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Speaker 1: everything that he is saying here. He said, if Kim

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Speaker 1: any chance? Now, Kanye did respond by posting a racial slur.

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Speaker 1: company's policies on hate speech and bullying and harassment. This

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Speaker 1: is really really tricky, Mark, because I think we all

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to celebrate someone like Kanye for

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Speaker 1: new reports about what Queen Elizabeth is really like, really

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Speaker 1: like Mark, what they got wrong on the Crown and so.

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Speaker 1: Royal biographer Robert Hardman, he's very, very fancier. He has

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Speaker 1: just about longevity or clinging on for her. She remains

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Speaker 1: That make said, Mark, do you think you would enjoy

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