1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Cary Line. She's a queen and talking, so she's getting 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: really not afraid to feel. 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Episode and so just let it flow. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: No one can do we quiet cary Line. It sound 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: like carolne Ready said. Join. I'm so excited to hear 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: kar Verge. 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Thank you says thank you for calling me. I'm so 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: happy to be here. 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: You were just on my radar because we're both from Texas. 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: We kind of you went to UT. 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, the real UT, the other UT. 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean everyone in Tennessee is like UT. 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: You have to be careful who I say that around. 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: But you know, but they're both orange, yes, which is 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: actually convenient. So you went to the University of Texas. 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: I did, and I am from Texas, and you moved here. 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: You and George moved here. George Burge is your husband. 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: He's had a couple number ones just recently, and his 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: new song's out with Luke Bryan. 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Uh huh what Yeah, it's called Ride Right to Ride, 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: so good Ride Ride, I think my favorite song he's 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: released to radio. 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: At least really Ride Right. 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: I love that very I know I can be soft spoken, 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: so I'll try and see your beautiful face too. 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but when did y'all move here? 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: We moved in fourteen, twenty fourteen, so we have now 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: been we're past our ten year mark. Gosh, we've been 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: here eleven years. 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Remember the first time we met with well of Asano's Pizza. Yes, 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: I do know, Amanda, How did how did we meet? 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Because Amanda's like, you gotta meet George and Kara. They're 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: from Texas. They're moving here because originally George was in 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: a duo Waterleo Revival, which is great, and y'all had 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: just moved up here. Because but he was a golfer first. Yes, 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: it's a professional golf up. See you hang out with 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Jaco and colt Ford? Is that how I knows colt. 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Ford Coults through golf for sure. 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Okay, but he's actually like a jit golfer. 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: Yes, he played in college actually, but us a great sport. 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: It really cares you. 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, we have tried to foster that in 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: our boys without being like too pushy, because he continuously 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: goes back to everything in my career, like all the 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: opportunities that have come have started on the golf course 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: in a very big way. I mean, it's crazy. If 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: you like trace back all the doors that opened from 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: his very first manager to you know, getting to Nashville 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: and then all the doors and tours that have opened, 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: Like so much of it came from golf for him. 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's a really good golfer. 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: So so he was playing golf at ut he did. 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: He played at golf. He played at Texas for a year, 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: and I did the Palm Squad at Texas for a year. 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Wait what is the palm squad? Exactly? 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: It's like the cheerleader. Yes, they're the cheerleaders that were 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: the little chaps. 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: Stop it. I mean, very sexy, but we both like 59 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: did Wait so what a. 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: Texas athletics but only for years? We were like kind 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: of but we also had that in common. So is 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: that where y'all miss fun? Yeah, freshman in college. 63 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: But like, were you cheering when you met him or 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: how did y'all meet? 65 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: No, we met through mutual friends at parties and mixers, 66 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: like a sorority mixer. I told one of my friends, 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: I was like, well, if you still need a date, 68 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: like I would if I were you, I think you 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: should ask George Burge. And she did and she I 70 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: was in her wedding and like she still reminds me 71 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: of that. She's like, remember when you told me to 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: ask George on a date? 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Why did you not want to go on to a 74 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: date with George? 75 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: I think I already had a date, Like I was 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: like those little freshman mixers or whatever? Were you girls 77 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: ask a guy or something with a theme? I don't know. 78 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so you knew George. Y'all met just through through 79 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: being around college at the same time. We're the same age. Yes, 80 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: how did you decide that you were going to stop 81 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: sending them off to your friends? And I'm I'm actually 82 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: going to take the lead. 83 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: We started dating like it was the second semester of 84 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: our freshman year and we never broke up. 85 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: How did y'all ever want because you'all were friends first? 86 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: Obviously, Yes, we were on a spring break trips when 87 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: we had our first kiss. 88 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Where were you? I need the story. 89 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we were in Was it Corpus or 90 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: Panama City Beach? 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, yeah, no, I think it was. 92 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: I think we were in like like the cour we 93 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: were on the Texas coast. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, so 94 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: you were the corporate with a bunch of friends. Yeah, 95 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: lots of fun. Like, we had so much fun young college. 96 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: You had a good college experience. 97 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Had a great time. We have pictures, you know, because 98 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: back then nobody had iPhones, Like we couldn't take all 99 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: your pictures on your phone, and so there was a 100 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: photographer that would like walk around the parties and take 101 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: your picture. And I found one when I was going 102 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: through like our anniversary stack of printed pictures, and it 103 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: was our same wedding date, but it was two thousand 104 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: and what would that have been like seven, So it 105 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: was April twenty eight, two thousand and seven. It was 106 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: like we were so young. We were just babies at 107 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: a part like with x'es on our hands because you 108 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: couldn't drink. Oh not well, yeah, fraternity parties did. 109 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: People had to summer tell you what ut you know 110 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: how to part It's different. 111 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: But we had so much fun. We had so much fun. 112 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: And then we were like kind of the first to 113 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: get married outside of college. Like we were twenty four 114 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: when we got married. Okay, so our wedding was just 115 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: all of our friends like, oh yeah, you know, oh 116 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: my god, we still talk about it. It was the 117 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: best and that for y'all. 118 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, then okay, how did y'all st How did y'all 119 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: iss them on the beach? You're at a group party. 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: Outside of my hotel. He was taking me back to 121 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: my hotel. I was staying with my girlfriend. He was 122 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: staying with all the guys. Yeah, just a real freshman 123 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: in college year. 124 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: So that were We're like, oh, this is the guy. 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think kind of a. 126 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: Little bit about George that You're like, I want to 127 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: lock this down. Or was he like I want to 128 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: lock you down? That was probably more like. 129 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: I want to lock you down. 130 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: He told me he was smart man. 131 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: I was not the first, no, no, no, no, not 132 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 2: but he told me you love me first, like a 133 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: few months. We had probably been dating for like three 134 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: or four months, okay, and I said thank you. He 135 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: actually frequently tells that story on thank You, and I'm like, honey, 136 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: you don't have to tell people that, but it's a 137 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: good moment. I was just like kind of shocked. 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Had you ever been in love before? 139 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh I had a high school sweve, but not 140 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: like a mature relationship. I mean still then I was 141 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: only seventeen, so I've been in love once before. Yeah. 142 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: So he said I love you, and You're like, thank you, Yeah, and. 143 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: Then currently I did. I kind of panicked and then 144 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: I remember, like it wasn't long after that that I 145 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: told him I loved him. But yeah, we've just been consistent, 146 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: we really have. And we've like, we've had a lot 147 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: of friends like grow with us and watch their relationships 148 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: and then obviously like become adults and then become parents, 149 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: and we've been through so many seasince we would have 150 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: never imagined that our life would look anything like this. 151 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Okay, can we please talk about this because I was 152 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: actually talking to Michael driving in here today, my husband, 153 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: and we've been together since two thousand and eight, so 154 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: very similar timeline, very young. Started dating when he was 155 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: twenty one and I was twenty four, and we were 156 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: just talking about because we're coming up on our I 157 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: think it's our twelfth wedding anniversary. So y'all are like thirteen. 158 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: We got married in twenty twelve. 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so y'all are y'all twelve? We are fourteen? 160 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: Almost fourteen years? 161 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh. 162 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: In April unbelievable. 163 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: And we were like, how on earth have we been 164 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: married almost twelve years? In all of the things and 165 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: the life and the seasons that we have gone through 166 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: and it's so amazing. On one hand, like when you're 167 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: in these really hard seasons, you're like, how are we 168 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: going to survive this? Just not like the marriage, but 169 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: just like as humans, because it's so hard, and then 170 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: you get through it and you like weather these storms 171 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: and then the highs of the high and it's really 172 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: a powerful thing. So talk to me about some of 173 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: the seasons. Because y'all started off fun in college, just 174 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: like living. 175 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: We had so much fun in college. So then we 176 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: were the first kind of newlyweds out of our friends 177 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: because we were young. 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: The job in like like a career. 179 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: At that point. Yes, we were both working in like 180 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: the corporate world. I was in like recruiting, corporate recruiting. 181 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: He worked for a consulting firm. So all these like 182 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: young people that just like you know, worked all day 183 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: until like seven o'clock at night. Because you'll both get 184 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: jobs right out of college, yes, okay, And and even 185 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: that was tough, finding jobs, I remember was hard. And 186 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: when we first graduated and there was a chance like 187 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: he was possibly going to move, and I was like, 188 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, if he moved, it was like yeah, 189 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: And he ended up getting a better job in Austin, 190 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: so we stayed and I was living in an apartment 191 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: with my best friend, and I remember thinking that when 192 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: I move out of this apartment, I'm going to be 193 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: engaged to George. Like I knew that we were going 194 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: to get married. So we like bought this older house 195 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: in Austin from the bank. It was like a total 196 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: beat up like fixer upper part Northwest Hills, Okay, which 197 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: like we could I don't even think we could afford 198 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: that house. 199 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: Today you have a video where you're driving by your 200 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: first house. Yes, okay, ender up. 201 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: You might not remember, do you remember who Kinky Freeman is. 202 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: Kinky he was from Texas. He wrote for Texas Monthly 203 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: and he was like this crazy political figure in Texas 204 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: that he was like a singer songwriter and so he 205 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: was in the Texas music scene and was like friends 206 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: with all the old like Willie and Waylon and had 207 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: all these like incredible influential people in his life. Just 208 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: bizarre character. Ki bought a house that he had lost 209 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: on a like I can't even remember. It was a 210 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: short cell from the bank, but anyways, it was previously 211 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: Kinky Freeman's house, and so it had like this really cool, 212 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: like Texas music. 213 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: History to it, and lots of energy in that house. 214 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: Lots of energy, it smelled like, and he had like 215 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: rescue dogs like everywhere. And so anyways, we updated a house. 216 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: So that was a really crazy fun season. 217 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: What did you learn about each other when you're updating 218 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: a house because that's our first big like project together. 219 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you learned a lot about. 220 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Each other, a lot of what is George's personality, like 221 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: when he's in a stressful situation. 222 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: Well, I learned he's going for saying this, He's like 223 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: just hire people for that, Like he's he's not really 224 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: like going to flip houses for a living. And we're 225 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: both kind of like, Okay, this is awesome, but like 226 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: we don't know what we're doing. Yeah, so we were 227 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: very I mean, we had no idea. We were twenty 228 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: five years old. We had no clue. How lucky we 229 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: were that his dad and his uncle like did this 230 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: previously for a living, Like. 231 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: Okay, you had some expertise in the family. 232 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So we renovated this house. Thank god 233 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: that we did, because then it came to he's potentially 234 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: going to quit his job and go try and be 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: a musician. 236 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: So when did he realize because he goes to college 237 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: for golf and then he has a corporate job. But 238 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: when did he be Like when was he like, I'm 239 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: actually gonna pursue music full nourse. I mean that's a big. 240 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: Well, probably when he realized he wasn't gonna be able 241 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: to play professional golf because he would have chosen that 242 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: over music be good. But he was like, yeah, I 243 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: wasn't good enough for that. 244 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Okay, but did he realize it was he always singing? 245 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: Oh I remember, no, Like, it's just our college friends 246 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: didn't even realize that he was Like like they they 247 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: knew he'd always get his guitar out at parties or 248 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: like seeing or play, but they didn't really realize or 249 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: appreciate that, like he wrote his own music and had 250 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: had a band since he was in high school. 251 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so we did have a band in high school. 252 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: Uh huh, Okay, I did. Yeah he's out of There's 253 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: been a number of bands. But in high school and 254 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: then in college, I remember he he was playing like 255 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: a charity event where they were like, let's learn some 256 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 2: covers and do it for this year. And that was 257 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: the first time I ever saw him play live in 258 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: front of people, and I was like, oh my gosh, 259 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: he's good. And then he had like some Op and 260 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: Mike nights at like the Mellow Mushroom in Austin and 261 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: like nobody would even be there, but like I was 262 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: every single one yes. And then it's just kind of 263 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: after we got married, they started like booking gigs at 264 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: the local Austin spot. 265 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: So was this did he pair up? Was he in adduce? 266 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: By the time, they had named the band Waterloo Revival, 267 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: and Waterloo is like, I think it's the original name 268 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: of Austin. I think Austin was Waterloo before, like a 269 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: lot of Waterloo influence in Austin. 270 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I'll love Austin. Okay. 271 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: So I remember him coming home being like, come up 272 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: with a band name, and I was like, oh, so 273 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: we're doing this. 274 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean at five years old to say like I'm 275 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: going full course in a band when I'm corporate and graduate. 276 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: Well, no, he was still working. He was still in corporate. 277 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: I mean he would play these shows and I look 278 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: back at some of the pictures, I'm like, you didn't 279 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: even change, Like you just came straight from the office 280 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: and you're still in your khaki pants. 281 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: So when he got the idea to do the band, 282 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: was he like, I'm not just casually doing this, I'm 283 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: going to do it. 284 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: No, it was casual at first. 285 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Started casual okay, yeah. 286 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: And they started doing and then all of their coworkers 287 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: would come support them and like and then you know 288 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: they're both from Austin, so all there our family. And 289 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: then he was just like packing out these venues in Austin. 290 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: In Austin, yeah, office like on the weekends. We were 291 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: having so much fun. And then his first like break 292 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: came from a manager that came and flew to Austin 293 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 2: to see him, and I think, yeah, gosh, it's been 294 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: a minute. But the manager basically shut you could do this. 295 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: His manager was like, I want to sign you. I 296 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: want to like kind of take you and run with this, 297 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: and I want you all to think about moving to Nashville. 298 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I mean maybe like in 299 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: a few years. And then he had his first what 300 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: do you call it when they like auditioned for the label, 301 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: like his first showcase or what, and we both came 302 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: to Nashville. 303 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: It was a label Sony, So they auditioned. They got 304 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: an audition for Sonya right away. So this kind of 305 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: moved quickly. 306 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: It happened quick. There was one song they were all 307 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: obsessed with and they were like, we've got to go 308 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: play this for all the labels in town. I mean, 309 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: he got a very influential manager early on, so like 310 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: and we knew nothing. We had, We had no freaking clue. 311 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: We were just learning. The buzz happened fast, so like, huh, 312 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: his gual We'll never forget. We stayed at like somewhere 313 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: in the Vanderbilt area at a hotel and he was 314 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: like like literally warming up, practicing. He was by himself. 315 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: It was just George that came to Nashville because the 316 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: band was a duo and Cody was probably working. I 317 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: have no idea. So he comes and I remember dropping 318 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: him off outside of the gates of Sony on Music Row, 319 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: and like we didn't like know how to get in. 320 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: Like it's like okay. I was like good luck, and 321 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: he's like just walking in this gate opens, He's just 322 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: him by himself, walking in with his guitar, and I 323 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: was like, he never gets nervous. That man is so nervous. 324 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: He did not get signed to Sony. Okay, they passed 325 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: and then we were like yeah, I mean whatever, it 326 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: was just like a weird thing, like I'm sure it's 327 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: never going to happen, And then he ended up getting 328 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: signed with Big Machine, Big Mahi. Yeah. Just then, like 329 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: we started crossing paths with you. Did you know Amanda first? 330 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: So I knew Amanda and Bill because my friend Lindsay 331 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: from Waco. What was Lindsay's maiden name was Friends, So 332 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: she was like, I have Waca friends, You've got to meet. 333 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: Okay, And that's how we ended up at Disono's. 334 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,479 Speaker 2: Yes, because of this, it was like this you nobody, 335 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: I earn nobody. Like I didn't have a single like 336 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: starting point where I was like they all meet a neighbor, 337 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: which I did. I ended up meeting my neighbor and 338 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: she's a great friend, love a good neighbor. But yeah, 339 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: I remember when Amanda was like, you need to come 340 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: out with us. 341 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: I just Amanda and Bill are in a thousand horses. 342 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: Bill's on a thousand horses and so yeah, we all 343 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: met at Disano's Pizza. 344 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: And it was like, oh my gosh, okay, I'm I'm 345 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: gonna be okay, Like I found a girl gang and 346 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: like we've we've it's a starting point. I have some 347 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: people to call and we're yeah. 348 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: Were you like all four Georgie's dream? Were you like, 349 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: let's do no? I want to say in Austin, this 350 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: was not on our agenda. Are you just like here 351 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: for it? 352 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm here for it. 353 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: You're here, You're a perfect you'reving wife of an adventurous 354 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: You're not. 355 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I worked for this is so cute. I 356 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: just had this memory. I worked for a recruiting company 357 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: and I recruited engineers like computer and electrical engineers, which 358 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: is hysterical, right, because they didn't know what to do 359 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: with me. And I remember telling them that I was 360 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: going to quit and I was going to move to 361 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: Nashville because my husband's going to be a country singer. 362 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: And I'm sure they were all like, oh my god, 363 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: Like I imagine myself as like legally blonde Elwood's and the 364 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: day maybe I left, the day that I left, yeah, 365 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: like what like they're all looking like, oh my god. 366 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: It actually worked out. I remember leaving the building that day. 367 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: It was a very large company and they had like 368 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: lined the hallway all of my engineers like made a tunnel, 369 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: and I like walked out of the office, and then 370 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: we just went and moved to Nashville and Cara. 371 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a common theme of just like 372 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: fun in your life, like you and George so do 373 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: y'all always find fun and like the joys things. 374 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: That's the greatest compliment, right, Like. 375 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: I just love like your whole perspective on all this. 376 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: You're like, we had so much fun in college, and 377 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: then we got married, and then we had so much 378 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: fun and our jobs we recruited, and then like all 379 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: the people that you worked for with recruiting came and 380 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: watched George play, and then that's how he got his 381 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: buzz because you were having fun doing so like, having 382 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: fun really leads to a joyful, aligned life. 383 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that and I definitely feel that. 384 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: I was just talking to probably my sister. My sister 385 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: and I are very close, and we were talking about 386 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: having fun with your spouse, you know, like you just forget. 387 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: I think so many people also just having kids is 388 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: hard and not always fun all the time. So now 389 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: that like our boys are a little bit older, like 390 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: a nine six, they are six and nine and yeah 391 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: almost seven and nine, so they are still like they're 392 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: still best friends. They still think we're like the coolest 393 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: and love to be together and they go on the road. 394 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: But we just like, yeah, we have a lot of fun. 395 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: And I think George and I consistently have fun with 396 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: or without the kids, like prioritizing that. I feel like 397 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: that's kind of that's the secret for us. 398 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that's just y'all's demeanor? 399 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 400 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: Or is it a choice? 401 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: I think it's a choice. I mean he's been tired, 402 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: like he's exhausted. 403 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: So what's wearing him out these days? 404 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: His version of fun has like changed too, But like 405 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: when we're together, we are, Yeah, like there's nobody we 406 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: have more fun with, Like it's not always a party. 407 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: Like he's actually not a big drinker, you know, like 408 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: that lifestyle. He's like I just can't, Like I don't. 409 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: He has to entertain people all the time. 410 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: For his career, So yeah, how does he entertain with 411 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: that alcohol. 412 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: He does drink? He doesn't. He's not like a non 413 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: drinker at all. It's funny because when he comes home 414 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: he's like ready to detox. Because when you're out on 415 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: the road, like hosting people backstage and like you know, 416 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: three times a week. Everybody wants to drink, and. 417 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: So everybody's ready for the party. 418 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Everybody wants like a shot of tequila on the bus, 419 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: like that's the thing. And it's so funny. His band 420 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: doesn't drink at all, Like nobody in his crew drinks alcohol. 421 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: So it's really funny. They they were very good team. 422 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: That's good. That's good to have a cut. 423 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: He comes home and he's like ready to you know, 424 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: just clean up and eat, clean and do all the things. 425 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: And I'm like, let's pour a glass of wine. Finally, 426 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: like you're back. 427 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So kids, y'all had your oldest was born super young. 428 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: I did not realize that. Yeah, really, yeah, so how 429 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: many weeks? That's good. 430 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: That season was, that's fair. 431 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: It was probably scary. 432 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: One of the hardest seasons we went through, just because 433 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: like we're here, my sister lives here, but we don't 434 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: have any other family. Well you move here, I say that. 435 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: So my sister, by the grace of God, my sister 436 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: and my brother in law had two young kids at 437 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: the time, so my niece and nephew are older, and 438 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: my brother in law was like in job transition and 439 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: they fell in love with Franklin. After like coming and visiting, 440 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: they were like, we're going to get an apartment and 441 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: just see how long we want to stay. And I 442 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: mean my family, like my parents were like, you can't 443 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: take the grandkids out of Texas, like nobody lives in Tennessee. 444 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: And at the same time, George was like, and I 445 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: think I'm going to be a country singer one day, 446 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: so we might also go there. 447 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: So they Franklin first, Yes, oh you're s same mo. 448 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: The same year that we moved, they moved in like 449 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: I want to say it was September of twenty fourteen, 450 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: and like by the end of the year we were 451 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: in Nashville. We moved like the week of the Cmas. 452 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: Really yeah, and so brother in law just fell in 453 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: love with me and they never went back. 454 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: They've never left Franks No shocked. I know my parents are. 455 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: They've all gone through it. My parents are divorced and 456 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: so they've been caretakers for their spouses and like they 457 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: haven't been in a position to just up and move. Okay, Okay, 458 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: is it just you and your sister and my brother 459 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: and my brother's in Texas, still in Houston, Okay, but anyway, 460 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: so my sister was here, and that is huge trying 461 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: to remember I was what I was showing you before. 462 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: I wish I could remember anything. Kara, we were talking earlier. 463 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: We're oh, pre me, That's what it was. 464 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you remember. I'm like forty two years old, 465 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: but feel one hundred too much in this brain. 466 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: Okay, well, but you look twenty five. 467 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: Remember I told you that ques canvas skin Allen over there, 468 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: She's got me on a skin regime. Gorgeous, Thanks you gorgeous. 469 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: You know I feel good. I feel insane in the head, 470 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: but I feel good. 471 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: I know if I can get past my just brain fog, 472 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: it's my sleep if I good taking from a person 473 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: not consistent, Okay, I'm. 474 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Just shout out to magnesium because I literally could not 475 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: sleep at all. I was taking unisalm every night because 476 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I was like I the same thing. I was waking 477 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: up not sleeping ruine my day. One day I didn't 478 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: sleep at all, and I just like dropped Sunday off 479 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: at school with Michael and I just started bawling in 480 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: the car and I'm like, I just can't go to 481 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: sleep again. My brain is razy. I'm laying on the pillow, exhausted, 482 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: cannot go to sleep, and it is the most frustrating thing. 483 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of women have this. Yeah, 484 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: I just can't chet my brain off. I'm taking magnesium 485 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: because I was so desperate, and I was like, I 486 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: cannot be addicted to unison. Like, I'm not going to 487 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: take a sleeping pill every night. Game changer, game, you. 488 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: Just calm like the whatever. 489 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: I take a pill. It's five hundred pilograms. I don't 490 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: even know what kind it is, not usually magnazium. Yeah, 491 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: it has changed my life. Okay, and I am someone 492 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: who cannot. 493 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Sleep, all right, so I will report back take it 494 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: because I am on a journey right now. 495 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: And it's a natural. It's natural. 496 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: It told George just like, I'm going to the store 497 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: to get a pillow and I don't know if it's 498 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: going to cost twenty dollars or if it can to 499 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: cost like two hundred and fifty dollars, but I need 500 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: a new pillow or I won't sleep again. 501 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: You need magnesium. 502 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: And he was like, well, I don't think it should 503 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: cost two hundred dollars. I mean large scale for pillows. 504 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so try magnesium. 505 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to put that, put that in the notes. 506 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I would do it. I'd get okay and 507 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: try it. 508 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: Have calm like the tub of the powder that you 509 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: can like mix up at night. I've used that one sometimes. 510 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I know a pill will 511 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: straight up work, okay, and it's a game changer, okay, Okay, 512 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: So magnesium. 513 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: So so you guys, pree me, yeah, baby. And his 514 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: name is George, George George James. He's technically not a 515 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: junior because they all have different middle names, but they're 516 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: all Georges in our family, and they all go by George. 517 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Love that George and George, lots of them. 518 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: And so I was probably pregnant before any of my 519 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: friends too, just because I didn't have a ton of 520 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: friends that were, you know, married earlier. And I feel 521 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: like it's very Texas. And so when Gee was born, 522 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 2: I had a blood clotting disorder and he was growth restricted. 523 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: So it was like a combination of a few things, 524 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: and so he basically just stopped growing at three pounds, 525 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: and we tried to leave him in as long as 526 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: we could, and then I would just go for like 527 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 2: scans every few days and that's very fortunately he was. 528 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: It wasn't like a super traumatic delivery because it wasn't 529 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: like I was rushed into a c section. But he 530 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: was so little that I couldn't be induced to like 531 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: try and deliver him. So he was just teeny tiny. 532 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: I remember I went for one of my scans and 533 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: they were like, all right, today's the day, and he 534 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: was born, like I think three hours later. 535 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: How many weeks were you? 536 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: I was thirty four weeks Okay, there was trying to 537 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: make it to thirty five. He just hadn't grown to 538 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: thirty four weeks. He had stopped growing. So it's called 539 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: iugr anyway, So was that he was itty bitty, And yes, 540 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: it was just a really anxious season. Like we didn't 541 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: We were very lucky, like my mom and my mother 542 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: in law both came to Nashville and helped take care 543 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: of us. But I mean, George is trying to figure 544 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: out his career. He's traveling all the time, Big George, 545 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: He's traveling a lot. You know, he was doing all 546 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: that radio tour stuff. 547 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: Man early in his career, it was, and he's gone. 548 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: He was gone a lot. 549 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: So you're at home in his little George. Is he 550 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: like having is he having to have special thing? 551 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: No, he didn't have to have any surgeries. Like fortunately 552 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: he was very healthy. There's still like you can't leave 553 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: the Nike you until they there's like three criteria. They 554 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: have to like maintain their temperature, nurse on their own, 555 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: or feed on their own, and then they have to 556 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: be over four pounds. He could do everything, he just 557 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: wasn't four pounds. Like, he was so tiny. So the 558 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: day we brought him home, I mean he was like 559 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: this way. It was like having a little tiny puppy. 560 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: I mean I could burp him with my hand, I 561 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: would hold his whole body. He was so little. But 562 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: that came with a lot of anxiety and a lot 563 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: of like I didn't have mom friends yet. So we 564 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: ended up moving to live a lot closer to my 565 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: sister and that was a blessing. And yeah, then it 566 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: all kinda I kind of came out of the woods. 567 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: But that that was a hard season. 568 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: Were you scared when you got pregnant again or was 569 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: there yes, can you like take take something to Yeah. 570 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: I was on a lovenox injection. I think it's called lovenox, right, Yeah, 571 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: fact check that a blood dinner basically like you just 572 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: give yourself a shot in the stomach every day and 573 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: so that mm hmmm yeah, and I don't do that 574 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: very well. I do not do needles well. So I 575 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: had to learn that. And Luke was fine. He was 576 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: delivered and fully you know, grown and everything. He was fine. 577 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: What was Did you have anxiety at the second one 578 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: or were you like a lot calmer at that point? 579 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I think I not not near as bad as 580 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: the first time around, because I mean, oh my god, 581 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: the first time around, talk about not sleeping. I remember 582 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: having like the reoccurring trauma that I thought I lost 583 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: my baby, like or that like I was nursing and 584 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: fell asleep or like that. I would like wake up 585 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: sweating and patting the sheets and like he's in the 586 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: basinet right next to me. I know, I was like 587 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: some weird weird I. 588 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: Wouldn't put sunny to sleep without the outlet on her foot. 589 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: I didn't even have that when she was born. Okay, 590 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how. 591 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: I was so worried that she was going to die 592 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: all the time, like just constantly. It was just so 593 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: much stress. 594 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: Did you monitor keeping noises of my gosh, the nick you. 595 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and you have that haunting your mind. 596 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and you always had the reassurance that like 597 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: there was a nurse close by when they were in 598 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: the nick You, right, and then they came home and 599 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: it was like everything was so scheduled, like he ate 600 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: at eight eleven, two and five, and like it was 601 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: I already had all this milk because I had been, 602 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: you know, pumping and making sure that it was all 603 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: like scheduled. And then with Luke, we had to just 604 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: kind of we're like, oh my god, they just let 605 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: us take this baby home. 606 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: I know, like, just let you leave. 607 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: I need to grochure again, like our instructions. 608 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: So you kind of actually felt like you were kind 609 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: of getting a little like it felt a little stable 610 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: with the nick You in a way because you had 611 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: to support. 612 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 2: Oh I cannot imagine. Also, like if I had to 613 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: do nick You and I had another child. I've had 614 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: friends go through that where I'm like, oh my gosh. 615 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: We were so blessed. We lived right there by Saint Thomas, 616 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: like we were downtown, and I just waited that spit 617 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: all day long for a month. Like if I had 618 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: another child, I wouldn't have been able to do that. 619 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: Thank God that you know, so we survived it and 620 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: that that was a tough season. 621 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: But now, and what would your takeaway about life from 622 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: that season? 623 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: I guess just looking back and seeing like my younger self, 624 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: I had no clue and I just figured it out 625 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: as like we grew together. We grew together, and we 626 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: matured together in so many different ways that like I 627 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: can look at it young mom, that's like super anxious 628 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: and like I recognize it and I see myself and 629 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, gosh, well, look at how much I've grown 630 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: since this, So like you just developed that like maternal intuition, 631 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: not even maternal but like as a parent, like you 632 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: just God gives you what you need. And true it's 633 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: hard to like see that when you're in it. And 634 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: I think even that's true now, I know that in 635 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: five years, ten years from now, wherever we are in 636 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: our careers, that like we'll think that same thing looking 637 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: back at like this version of us. But it is 638 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: kind of sweet to look back and be like, oh 639 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: my gosh, look at what we did, like good for us, 640 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: and we did together like kill each other, right you were, 641 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: you know, our marriage survived it? 642 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: Or how did your marriage survives, because that can be 643 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: a very trying time. How did y'all come together instead 644 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: of tear apart? 645 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: You know, George is a great dad, Like he's he's 646 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: a great husband. He's just a good dude. And he's 647 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: not telling me to say this, but I do. 648 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: Think he kills I wait for you when you get home. Yeah, 649 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: two hundred dollars villain. 650 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of our friends that like probably 651 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: just struggle in their roles of like parenting and like 652 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: who does what? And I'm staying at home now. For 653 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: a long time I was working, I did real stay. 654 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah was that fun in Nashville? 655 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I loved it. I loved loved it, and I'm 656 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: like I still would love to, but he's never home, 657 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: so it doesn't really work with our house very well. 658 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: You could always come back to it if you want 659 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: to do. My kids need me less and less and 660 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: that kills me. No, But I'm like, once they're older, 661 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: I would I'll probably got back to that. But anyways, 662 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: I feel like George did. George and I both we 663 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: always support each other when we're home and we're together 664 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, this is normally all my load 665 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: that I do when you're gone and you're on the road, 666 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 2: but when you're here and you're home, like he cooks 667 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: dinner and he helps, like he does a lot of 668 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: the stuff with the boys, and he wants to put 669 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: him to bed and wants to do the give me 670 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: a break too. So I feel like we just see 671 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: each other and we support each other's needs, Like he 672 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: sees me and he knows me so well to know 673 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: what I need and vice versa. Like I know he's 674 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: exhausted when he gets home, and I know how horrible 675 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: it is to sleep on a bus or travel or 676 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: take three flights in a you know, four days. And 677 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, I see that. Not everybody sees that. And 678 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: then I'm like, yeah, it looks like he gets to 679 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: be home all day and have two days off, and 680 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, he never gets days off. So so. 681 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: When he okay, so y'all move to Nashville, you does 682 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: he quit his corporate altogether when he gets the manager 683 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: and says move to Nashville. So, y'all are just like 684 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: taking a to jump back into this part of the story. 685 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: So he's just gonna take this leap of faith because like, 686 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: no money's coming in yet like it's not like he 687 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: has does have a publishing deal. 688 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: So that Austin house that we flipped, yeah, thank god 689 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: you sold it. 690 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: We sold that for like double the value, and that's 691 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: what you lived off of. 692 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: Yes, we doubled the value of that house. 693 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: And it was like, ee, haul, let's do this. 694 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: Thank God for his dad and his uncle that we're 695 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: putting in all this like labor and helping us because 696 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: we had no clue that like that investment would have 697 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: just added such a tremendous value the real estate. And 698 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: Austin went crazy. 699 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: You flipped the house, moved and couldn't live and survive 700 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: off of that. 701 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: Yep, I moved here. Yeah. 702 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Did you quit your job too? 703 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: Yes? 704 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: So y'all both were jobless. 705 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, I immediate. I already had a job lined up 706 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: before we even got to Nashville. 707 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Good for you, care. 708 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I gotta work. Well, we got 709 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: to do something. 710 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah job. 711 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: I worked for a recruiting company and it was horrible, 712 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: and I remember being like, I'm not a quitter, so 713 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 2: this is a new job and I can't quit. Now 714 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: what am I going to do? And I knew from 715 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: the first few weeks I was like, I'll never be 716 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: happy here. This is just not my speed. This is 717 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: different kind of recruiting than what I was doing back 718 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: in Austin. So how did you stick it out? Let's see. 719 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: I remember I quit on my birthday. 720 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: Good for you. 721 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: I quit on my birthday. And it was like you 722 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: because it was sales basically cold calling recruiting. You don't 723 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: like give a two weeks, you just get to leave. 724 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: And so I was like, well, I think I might 725 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: just do it today then, and I went to the 726 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: zoo with my sister and I was like, oh, this 727 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: is so fun. I just like left that day and 728 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: I remember, so that was March Care. So I only 729 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: worked there for like, yeah, not even five months. And 730 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: then I started real estate, and by the grace of God, 731 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: all of the people that I worked with in that 732 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: job were ready to buy their first homes because they 733 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: were all making money and they were like young, and 734 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: so I became like the first time home by our specialist. 735 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: It's just my thing, and it was great. 736 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: And I tell you, God is setting you up though, 737 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: because all these experiences are like compounding upon each other 738 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: and they all work together. Yeah, Like even like George 739 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: working at his corporate, but then playing his gigs and 740 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: like everyone coming to watch him. That created this buzz. 741 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: It's like nothing has been for not I know. 742 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: I love. I loved doing this because it's not often 743 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: that you like go through these early faith Like especially 744 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: George when he's interviewing, he doesn't like cover those little 745 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: details everybody wants to know about, you know, the next 746 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: song around me. I don't care, right, I don't want 747 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: to know a crazy whole story. How did we get 748 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: here and how'd it all work together? 749 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, because it does so. 750 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: You many little things had to happen. 751 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: You had the job you hated, but it got you great. 752 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I want to ask nobody would have called 753 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: me to buy a house because I didn't know anybody. 754 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: And then everyone old you, so how many houses you self? Yeah? 755 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: I wish I knew, but like I don't know. I'm 756 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: telling you. Out of that company alone, it was probably 757 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: like over fifteen. 758 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: Holy cow, so you're probably like the all star real 759 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: estate agent too. 760 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: It was. It was wonderful. And then I joined a 761 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: company that I love and I still like value those 762 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: relationships so much. But I was like one of their 763 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 2: youngest agents and so they were like, oh, if you're 764 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 2: looking at East Nashville, it's up and coming, call Kara. 765 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: So then I was like the East Nashville girl for 766 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: a long time. I was like, this is so funny? 767 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Was it so fun like doing going and looking at 768 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: I love looking at houses too, Yes, I also do 769 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: it for fun. 770 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: And I tried, like I still. I guess it was 771 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: really COVID that I stopped. Were full time, I would 772 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: like try and do part time in real estate. It's 773 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: hard to do part time to do it really well, 774 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: just because the market's changing so much and like you 775 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: have to be available all the time. So the busier 776 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: that George got, the harder it was for me to 777 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: just drop what I was doing and go work an 778 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: open house on the weekend or go show property when 779 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: I've now got two young kids. So then I stopped 780 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: after COVID and all that, and then he kind of 781 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 2: started his career over again and got busy. 782 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: Did you stop working before George went viral? 783 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: No? I was still working then, Okay, So George, I 784 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: was all liked, I can't believe it, Like it's so funny, 785 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, Like that's the first song called beer Beer 786 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 2: Truck Truck Beer, beer truck truck. He hates talking about it, wow, 787 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: but truly like we wouldn't be here without say talk. Yeah. 788 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: So that's when TikTok was taking off. Yes, So he 789 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: just hopped on board TikTok yeah and started posting songs. 790 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: He went on a writer's retreat in Texas and. 791 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: They because COVID shut the world down, so he kind 792 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: of stopped touring up. Everything was sort of at a stop. 793 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: Yep. 794 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: Anyway, so he was now he was like, Okay, let 795 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: me just see what this time. 796 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying this right? Clay Walker told George he was like, man, 797 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: if there's any advice you need to get on TikTok. 798 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 2: He was like, Clay Walker, I know, was like, listen, 799 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: you could play your songs, you know, maybe once a 800 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: week at a gig to five thousand people, or you 801 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: could get on the internet right now and like hundreds 802 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: and thousands of people couldn't see it. 803 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: So why Walker? 804 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: And he was like, all right, man. 805 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: How is he friends with Klay Walker? Just through the 806 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: music community to Clay just they hit it. 807 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: He had to write sat up with him during COVID 808 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: Love Clay Walker and I remember because he was like, 809 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: we had a basement room that he would write in. 810 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: He's like, all right, I'm going on to zoom. I'm 811 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: gonna see I'm writing with Clay Walker. Like on, did 812 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: y'all have Clay Walker? As much as I love klay Walker? 813 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: There was this woman and there was this man. Are 814 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Came onto my life? 815 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know some of his best like mentor friends 816 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 2: are klay Walker and Gary Allen. 817 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, do you love Gary? And you said Toby 818 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: Keith too? Well? 819 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, his first label was under Toby Keith's record label 820 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 2: Stop first second that was the second record label. 821 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: Dang, what's those are some serious mentoring. 822 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: I know he has been with Gary Allen. He went 823 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: on tour with Gary Allen. I think that was early 824 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: in the George I think early in his so low 825 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: cleer and then we I remember, yeah, he plays a 826 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: lot of golf with Gary. They just played golf this week. 827 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: Look at God. 828 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's become like a good friend. Okay. 829 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: So he went viral and what does that mean? What 830 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: does and people see this. 831 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 2: Song he had started a there was a viral. I 832 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: think he was literally searching like country music viral and 833 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: it was this girl that was making fun of country music, 834 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: and she's like, it's all beer beer truck truck and 835 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 2: girls and tight jeans, and so he made like a 836 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 2: little duet to it, where he's like, I kind of 837 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 2: like that, maybe I could write a song like stop 838 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 2: joking around about how country music is not with this girl. 839 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 2: Well not you know how like TikTok you like respond 840 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: to it. Yeah, So he actually wrote a song that 841 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: sounded like a real song you'd hear on country radio, 842 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: and it's like it ain't all beer and so he's 843 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: singing that lyric and it went viral. Like he ended 844 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: up having I have no idea millions, hundreds of thousand. 845 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what viral is, but like he literally 846 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: got a record deal because of it, and so Toby Keith, 847 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: he ended up like going into the studio with this song, 848 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: giving this girl writer's credit. She's a writer, yes, because 849 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: it was like her line, and then they turned it 850 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: into a song and released it. 851 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: Is she on the song? 852 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: No, but she she's like a real teacher somewhere. No, 853 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: they've never met in real life drop it, but have 854 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 2: spoken several times, and she like. 855 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: Joked that she's on the song. 856 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: She like reached out to him the first time she 857 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: got like her first royalty check. 858 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: Oh so wild, come on. 859 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: So anyways, people loved it and then he had loved 860 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 2: it did well Okay, I mean I don't know, but like, yeah, 861 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: it was a dream dwell. It wasn't like a radio 862 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: single or anything. 863 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: It was that he signed with Sign. 864 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 2: Then he got signed to No because that the I'm like, 865 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: how many labels? It's a long, a longing when you're 866 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: in this music industry. It's then he went to Records, 867 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: which is where he's at now, and that was as 868 00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: a solo artist where Records Nashville, and so yeah, he 869 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 2: was like literally getting calls from record labels being like 870 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: we've heard you're not you know, because now he's he 871 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: was not in a band anymore. He was really just 872 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 2: kind of pursuing this society thing, figuring out like do 873 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: I even have the energy to like start this again 874 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: over from the beginning and like rebrand completely to go solo. 875 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: I mean that's scary when you've been in a duo 876 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: and like have to start something because he's starting over. 877 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 2: I know, and it's you. I mean, that was a 878 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: long I think at that point it was the seven 879 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: years so he's like, financially, is it going to make 880 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: sense to like start this over. Do we have enough 881 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: time to like make this work to support our family 882 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 2: and or do I just need to go, you know, 883 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 2: sell real estate with you or something. So we were 884 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 2: kind of at a crossroach trying to figure that out 885 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: and and it worked out. 886 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: Okay. So he got the record deal from Beer Beer 887 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: Truck Truck. Yes, still on that same record. 888 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 2: Deal with Records, Yes. 889 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: And so now then he on to have two number one. 890 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: I hope, I'm saying all the story. 891 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: We think this is how it went. We are almost sure. 892 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. So his number his first number one was mind 893 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: on You okay, and that song I want to say 894 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 2: they both technically went number one in the same year, 895 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 2: which was not. 896 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: So this worked out. As soon as he got a Sola, 897 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: it was like boom. 898 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really kind of took off. He was on 899 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: some great tours and that's where got Garry Allen came in, 900 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: or Garry Allen was before it was a little earlier. 901 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: But what tours did he go on? 902 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: He was on tour with Sam Hunt, with Park of 903 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: My column, Oh. 904 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: My God, and Luke Brian and your son's name is Luke. 905 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: So I saw you'll have pictures of George and Luke 906 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 1: and George and Luke. 907 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: Isn't he great? 908 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: Because like you got to George and we love. 909 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: Luke, like he's become such a good friend, and I'm like, 910 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: what are the chances of George and Luke? Like I 911 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: think I always make cheesy jokes. I think one of 912 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 2: the first times I met Luke Brian, I told him 913 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 2: I was like, we named her son after you, did you? 914 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 2: And he looked at me like I was serious, and 915 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I've had a lot of people probably 916 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: actually do that. It's like I was joking but kind 917 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: of funny. 918 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: So so he went on tour with Sam Hunt. Mm hmm, wait, 919 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 1: who'd you say after that? 920 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: Parker McCollum, Parker McCollum, and then Luke Bryan and now 921 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: Luke Bryan is on his all amazing artists and amazing 922 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: like cruise. I mean, he was so blessed, Like I 923 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 2: didn't really know because I've heard some horror stories that like, 924 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: you know, if you get on the wrong tours that 925 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 2: you and you're just the opener for the opener or whatever, 926 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: it can be kind of rough. And he've just like 927 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: met so many great people. They were all like so 928 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 2: awesome and took care of their people and their openers. 929 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: And and now he's on his own headlining tour, his 930 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: very first headlining tour, and it's going so well, and 931 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: it's like selling out these venues and we're pinching ourselves 932 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 2: like it is Cara awesome. 933 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: Okay, but this is what I'm saying. It sounds to me. 934 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: I know you'a have had hard trials and tribulations, but 935 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: it sounds to me like you always come back to 936 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: just like appreciation and fun. Yes, is that like a 937 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: common thing, Like even when it's harder, like okay, but 938 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: we're still having fun. We're still doing that. 939 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: Have you? You also need to do this with George, 940 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 2: but like one hundred percent you would get that from 941 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 2: his energy too, Like there's not much that really bothers him. 942 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 2: You never see George angry? How I mean I have 943 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: because I see the like hard parts of this industry. 944 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: But how does he keep his his cheerful disposition. 945 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 2: He just doesn't take it too seriously? 946 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? 947 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 2: I mean he does, he works hard, He works harder 948 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: than anyone in his position or else. It wouldn't have worked. 949 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 2: Like there's so many reasons why that you know, he 950 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 2: just he just kept going. But I feel like he 951 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 2: has always had a really fun light to him that 952 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: like people feel that and they know that he's he's 953 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 2: not only fun to be around, but that I mean 954 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: he's genuinely like good taking care of his people and 955 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 2: making sure he's leading in the you know, leading his 956 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 2: people in the best way. 957 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: So that goes is that God. 958 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 2: At the center? 959 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: So is God like a huge thing for you guys? 960 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 961 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: Is that the foundation? 962 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean, our leading, most important priority is is God. 963 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 2: And our family and our boys are feeling that, and 964 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: I feel like we're doing a good job at teaching 965 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: them that. And the more we've grown and leaned into 966 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 2: our faith, the more doors have opened. In a way 967 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: that was like, you know, you can try as hard 968 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 2: as you can to do all the right things and 969 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: like work and take every gig and opportunity and travel, 970 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: but like he was just exhausted by the end of it. 971 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: And I think there was like a lot of maturity 972 00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 2: when he went from post COVID just trying to trust 973 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 2: not only himself, but like lean on his faith too. 974 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: Instead of just willing it himself with his human spirit 975 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: and determination, being like, I'm actually gonna just like turn 976 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: this over to you guy. Yep, that's a big moment. 977 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 2: It's a big shift. M h. 978 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: Everything shifts after that. Do you think, yeah, he really 979 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: made that shift? Yes, how did you do that? You know? 980 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: I said, I want you to bring him in? You 981 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 2: really do? Part of me was like, he's home today. 982 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 2: Should I tell Caroline that George should come because I 983 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: feel like you'd love talking to him too. 984 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a big moment to be able to like say, Okay, yes, 985 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: I I am determined and I'm a human and I 986 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: have these dreams that don't make them happen, but actually 987 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: I'm going to turn this over to God. 988 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I might not know what it 989 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 2: looks like because I think for a long time he 990 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 2: would try and craft like I'm doing this to end 991 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: up in this version of what I feel like successes, 992 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: but really, like, what is success to us now? And 993 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 2: is that so different than what you were trying to 994 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 2: fit make fit five years ago, ten years ago or whatever? 995 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 2: And if I'm being honest, I just feel like we've 996 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 2: had this conversation very recently. We're like this is success. 997 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 2: I don't know what we're chasing anymore. Like we have 998 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: everything that our hearts want, Like we have safe, healthy children, 999 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 2: we have a healthy marriage, Like we have each other, 1000 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: that we are like known and seen and understood by 1001 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 2: each other, and like we have a support system around us. 1002 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: So like, honestly, we figured out enough. And my husband 1003 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 2: is very driven to like make sure that we have security. 1004 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 2: He is often like anxious, Like all he wants is 1005 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 2: to know that like, Okay, I want to know that 1006 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: I've worked hard enough to like take care of my 1007 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 2: family so that we can have the luxuries like we're 1008 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: getting to live. And I just want to make sure 1009 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 2: that there's enough longevity so that we can do that, 1010 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 2: so he doesn't have to tour when he's, you know, 1011 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 2: sixty years old, play to empty bars anymore. He's like, 1012 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 2: as long as I can get to the point where, 1013 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: you know, I feel secure enough that like this career 1014 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: worked and provided for my family in a way that 1015 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: like I can feel peaceful and feel like we didn't 1016 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: just burn through, you know, money on all these stupid 1017 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 2: things in our thirties. But and I feel like we're 1018 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: getting to the point where it's like Okay, this is 1019 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: working and I really trust him and he's made great 1020 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 2: been just like a great leader for our family and carah. 1021 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, what a ride, thank you, I mean, but 1022 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,280 Speaker 1: what a ride for you to be so supportive, because 1023 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: not all spouses and partners can go along with this life, 1024 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, but you seem like you're made for it 1025 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: just as much as he. 1026 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: Is, I hope, So, I mean, yeah, I think so. 1027 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: The fact that you're so willing to just be in 1028 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: the season, Yeah, trust it, like let one thing lead 1029 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 1: to another, you know. 1030 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: Well, And I think, like I said earlier, he sees 1031 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 2: me and like we know each other so well. He 1032 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: just caters to my needs too, Like we both need 1033 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 2: each other where we need to be supported, and that's 1034 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 2: not always the same every single year. So like the 1035 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 2: way I needed to feel supported and loved when I 1036 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 2: was a new mom looked a lot different than than now. 1037 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 2: I just need to feel kind of independent and not 1038 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 2: a mom all the time. But like he's really good 1039 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 2: at at you know, taking care of me and vice versa, 1040 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 2: because that's what works. Otherwise we would just like miss 1041 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: each other because he'd be exhausted when I'm you know, 1042 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 2: like I said, earlier. He's always coming home and ready 1043 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: to recharge, where I'm like, hey, I need to get 1044 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: out of this house. So like we kind of have 1045 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 2: to balance for each other and see where we're at. 1046 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: So what would you say now that you've been on 1047 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: this journey for what fifteen years just almost like a 1048 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: long time looking back to your younger self? What would 1049 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 1: you tell your younger self? 1050 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 2: Oh like, oh my gosh, wait till you see this, 1051 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 2: because we would have had no idea. What would I say. 1052 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: To my own? What absice would you give a younger self? 1053 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 2: I would tell myself it's I've always been a Christian 1054 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 2: and a believer, like since I was saved at church 1055 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 2: camp in middle school when I was, you know, probably 1056 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: twelve years old. But I would just tell myself, lean 1057 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 2: into my faith first before you try and figure it 1058 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: out on your own, because that's where I really truly 1059 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 2: have found peace. And I've gone through seasons where I'm like, 1060 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm super anxious because i have a new baby and 1061 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 2: I'm still learning how to do all these things, or 1062 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm still trying to make friends, or I'm trying to 1063 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 2: figure out my career or trying to figure out how 1064 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 2: to make money. But whenever I truly felt like connected 1065 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: in my spiritual life, in my relationship with Jesus, that's 1066 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 2: when I really experienced peace of like. But it doesn't 1067 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 2: matter if we don't get to this level of what 1068 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: we call success, because we could live anywhere as long 1069 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 2: as I can feel peaceful and know that in my heart, 1070 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be and I'm serving 1071 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 2: in a way that you know, God needs me to. 1072 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: And that might be my family, it might be my friendships, 1073 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 2: it might be something much bigger, and I don't know 1074 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 2: what that's going to be. But I think once I 1075 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: prioritized my relationship with God, it just got easier and 1076 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 2: it felt so less intimidating. 1077 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, I love that, Gara. So what's on the 1078 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: bucket list? Are you just flowing? 1079 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 2: We're about to go to Australia? What? Yeah? With our boys? Yes? 1080 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: And I are they so excited? 1081 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 2: They can't be more excited because I don't really I 1082 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 2: haven't gotten to like travel like this much, like very 1083 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: rarely left the country other than like a few tropical vacations. 1084 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 2: So we're super excited. He's playing CMC Rocks, which is 1085 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 2: in Brisbane, apparently there's a bunch of country festivals over there, 1086 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 2: and where are you going March ninth? 1087 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,280 Speaker 1: Oh Ji? 1088 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 2: So I am like in planning mode. I'm having so 1089 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 2: much fun. I'm anxious about flying so far with my kids. 1090 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I told George, I think about the flight 1091 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: as much as I think about the trip. It's a 1092 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 2: fifteen hour flight from LA, so first we gotta get 1093 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 2: to LA and then over the ocean for fifteen hours. 1094 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 2: But we're we'll go and like it's been two weeks 1095 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: and I'm so excited. 1096 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and the boys are going to love it. 1097 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I can't wait. Yeah, we're going to do like 1098 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 2: the Sunshine Coast is like a bunch of beach towns, 1099 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 2: so that's probably what I'm most excited about. But we're 1100 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,959 Speaker 2: flying into Sydney, so we're going to see the big 1101 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 2: city and like the harbor, and we're going to go 1102 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 2: to the Australia Zoo. 1103 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: So super exciting. 1104 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 2: Yay, I cannot wait. And then after that we're almost 1105 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 2: like to summer. 1106 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? 1107 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 2: It all happens so fast, and I am just so 1108 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 2: ready for it to be summer. My kids love school, 1109 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 2: but I'm like you know, I don't like having a schedule, 1110 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 2: so old what grades are then they're in first and 1111 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 2: third person? 1112 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, then just freedom of no schedule. 1113 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 2: Freedom of no schedule, and I cannot wait. 1114 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: And y'all, tour is a family too, ye cry. 1115 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 2: As much as we can over the summer. And then 1116 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 2: like with a lot of weekend runs, it just depends. 1117 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 2: Like these bigger tours that he was on, they were 1118 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 2: great to travel with family because I'm like, we could 1119 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: meet him in a big city and then just bus 1120 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 2: home or something, even if we could only take two 1121 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 2: nights to be there for the weekend. So that's and 1122 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 2: then all try and do the same thing. Like when 1123 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,240 Speaker 2: I can get away just me for a few days, 1124 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 2: it makes it so much easier. Okay, So I said, 1125 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: only have my sister here. Recently, George's sister also moved here. Girl, 1126 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 2: you are living right, and she's living with us right, 1127 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 2: it's so great. 1128 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you've been. 1129 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 2: So that's Katie, George's sister, and and we're trying to 1130 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 2: convince her to stay in Nashville. 1131 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: She came here for she married single. 1132 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 2: She's single, so she's like in your house, very fable bachelorette. 1133 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're so listeners. 1134 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 1: Lucky though, to have her living with you, we would 1135 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: enjoy and. 1136 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 2: Her Golden retriever. Stop it that I'm obsessed with. 1137 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 1138 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 2: Yes, I can love her dog. 1139 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: And does she just like love the boys. 1140 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it's just wonderful and it's so great for her 1141 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 2: to be part of their lives in the season, she's 1142 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 2: her godmother and like it's I hope I'm speaking for Katie, 1143 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 2: but I feel like it's as fulfilling for her as 1144 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 2: it is for them. And it's just it's been. 1145 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: Really specially special time. 1146 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 2: And she won't live with us forever. She's probably about 1147 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 2: to get her own place, but she came here and 1148 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 2: she's she's like finished her master's and occupational therapy and 1149 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 2: so now you know, it depends on where she finds therapist. Yes, 1150 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 2: you got to change that. I'm going to reach out 1151 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 2: to her. You got to connect with Amanda because doesn't 1152 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: she work in the nick You. 1153 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: Might have had so many amazing jobs. I don't know. 1154 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 2: I just remember maybe her telling me her friend in 1155 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 2: the neck you she probably has a lot of When 1156 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 2: she was in there, there was an occupational therapist would 1157 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 2: come like Ben to his little foot and it was 1158 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 2: like this big and I was like, well, that's the 1159 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 2: sweetest job ever. I want that job. 1160 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: And now your sister in law is an occupational therapist. 1161 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 2: Hoping she finds a job in Nashville instead of Austin 1162 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 2: and we will convince her to stick around. 1163 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: Seriously, she needs stop to me. 1164 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. 1165 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: I always wrap up with leave your light and it's 1166 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: just super open and unless is there anything else we 1167 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 1: need to share? Am I missing anything? I don't think 1168 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: so okay, yay, just I just love your life. I 1169 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: love your inspiration, I love your I love your ability 1170 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: just to flow and find joy and fun. Like I 1171 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: would say, finding the fun and the joy in all 1172 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: situations is a common theme with you and George. Yes, 1173 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: I love that and has carried you through. It's like 1174 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: blessed you though. You know, having fun isn't just like 1175 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: partying and like raging. It's like actually just enjoying the 1176 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: season that you're in for what it is like I'm 1177 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 1: telling you, like hearing you say that, like all the 1178 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: corporate people came to his shows and then you're selling 1179 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: all your corporate people houses it's like right, finding that 1180 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: fun in anything, it just carries you through. And what 1181 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: what a thing for us all to remember, honestly, like, 1182 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: have fun with your life. We're here, have fun, yes, 1183 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: Like let it be fun. Yes. 1184 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 2: I try and teach that to my kids, and I 1185 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 2: feel like they're they are figuring it out, not only fun, 1186 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 2: just and I feel like that comes from gratitude, yeah, 1187 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 2: like just being so aware of how blessed we have 1188 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 2: been and how we can pay that forward. And like 1189 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 2: I tell my boys, just love like Jesus. Yeah, lesson, 1190 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 2: if it's a hard day, just try and be a light. 1191 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 2: Just be just love like Jesus. Okay, And I feel 1192 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 2: like I feel like it's working. 1193 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: So that leads me to my last question, which is 1194 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: leave your light and it's just dropping some inspiration. What 1195 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: do you want people to know? 1196 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 2: I want people to know about me. 1197 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: Or about or you or just like if you're going 1198 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: to drop some inspiration to sum it up, like what 1199 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: do you want to leave what kind of like nugget 1200 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 1: do you want to leave with people? 1201 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 2: I would say, let me think about it. 1202 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 1: No pressure, this is the moment, Kara. It all hinge 1203 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: is upon this, Okay. 1204 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 2: I would leave with I think staying connected in my 1205 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 2: marriage has been probably the most important thing in this career. 1206 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 2: But also like that is my life and that is 1207 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: who I am as a mom and as a wife. 1208 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 2: Just staying connected seeing my spouse and my family and 1209 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: my children for their needs and like making sure that 1210 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 2: everyone feels seen and loved has really like worked for 1211 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 2: us and has you know, supported us. And I think 1212 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 2: that comes from our faith. That just putting my relationship 1213 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 2: with God and first, and you know, making sure that 1214 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm led and prayerful and just leading 1215 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 2: in gratitude and everything that I do I love. 1216 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: That does not work, That's wonderful here, Birge, thank you 1217 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: so much for joining me. Where can everyone keep up 1218 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: with you? And George because we need to follow his 1219 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: career as well. Where can we keep up with all 1220 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: social I. 1221 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 2: Think I'm at Cara Burge k A R A B 1222 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 2: I R B I R G E G E and 1223 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 2: George Burge Okay, George, Okay. 1224 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: A new song forere George is. 1225 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called Ride Ride Ride. It's out and it's 1226 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 2: already like on the charts. 1227 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: Yes it is, Yes, it is. 1228 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: Somewhere in there. I can't remember. 1229 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. This was so but I'm 1230 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: so glad to reconnect. 1231 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 2: With you too. This was so fun. 1232 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay bye