1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: It's now officially open. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 2: This is Draft Season, brought to you by Moody's, a 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: proud sponsor of the New York Football Giants. I am 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: John Schmelck, joined as always by Tony Pauline, our resident 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: draft expert. 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: Tony. Happy Thanksgiving, my friend. How are you? 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: I'm okay, John. Happy Thanksgiving to you and all of 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: our viewers. It's a great time of year. Thanksgiving a 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: great holiday, four day weekend, it's nice, a lot of football, 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: a lot to eat, Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, It's gonna 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: be fun. 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: I got into a debate with Mark Melussis, who I 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: do the Saturday Morning Big Boo kick of Live show with, 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: and I said I think Thanksgiving is the best holiday. 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: And he was aghast that I thought it was a 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: better holiday than Christmas. And my argument was that, A 18 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: it's a very American holiday for one. Number two, you 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: also have, you know, the whole like being thankful what 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: you have thing. I think it's kind of like a 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: really good message to be totally honest with you, especially 22 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: in this day and age. So I vote I love Christmas. 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: By the way, I have nothing against Chris this. I 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: vote Thanksgiving over Christmas. I gotta be honest with you, Tony. 25 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: No, I go with Meluss. I mean, I love Thanksgiving. 26 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanksgiving's like the kickoffs, and Christmas in more 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: ways than one, is like balls season. I mean, since 28 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: I was a kid, I'm beag Christmas gutt But I 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: enjoyed the whole time, from literally the days before Thanksgiving 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: through Christmas and New Year's I just enjoy it all. 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, I drive people nuts because the 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: day after Thanksgiving, I already have all my favorites set 34 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: up on my serious and on my web streams. I 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: basically have Christmas use of going in my office for 36 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: like most of the next month. So I drive the 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: people around me nuts. But yes, I am all about it. 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm happy to kick off the season. 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: All right, we better take it. We better take DNA test. John. 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 3: We may be we may be brothers from a different 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: mother or. 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Something like that. You can't beat a baby. All right, 43 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: here we. 44 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Go, busy show today, folks, We're gonna do a little 45 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: bit of a recap of the week in college football. 46 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: We'll look ahead as always at dead of the show, 47 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: and Antoni, I gotta kind of do a top ten 48 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: mock draft here of what we think this top ten 49 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: might look like, which, by the way, Tony, I had 50 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: some trouble with I was going through this for like 51 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: two hours trying to match players with teams because we 52 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: weren't doing any trades here. But we'll see what both 53 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: of us came up with. He did it separately, and 54 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: we'll compare it our contrast. What our groups look like. 55 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: Should be fun, It. 56 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: Should be all right, Tony, you were pumped up about 57 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: the Arizona Baylor game over the weekend. 58 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: What'd you think once you watched it? 59 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: And it was a good game for three quarters And 60 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: there's actually one of those games where every player that 61 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: I mentioned I was looking forward to seeing play played well. 62 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, you start with Arizona who 63 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: won the game. 64 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: Genesis Smith, their safety, who I'm heard very likely is 65 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: a good chance he's going to enter the draft, had 66 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: a force fumble, had a fumble recovery. He's athletic, he 67 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: sells out, he's instinctive, he does a great job reading 68 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: and diagnosing plays. And I was texting a scout friend 69 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: during the game and they sent to me to said, 70 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: this kid's for real, and you got to keep an 71 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: eye on him, because you know, Arizona's had a pretty 72 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: good year this season. No one really talks about Genesis 73 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: Smith and what looks like it's going to be a 74 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: very as usual average safety class except for the guy 75 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: at the top. Traydon Stokes is another cornerback you're talking 76 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: mid day three. Decent size, physical, really better facing the action. 77 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: But another defensive back from the Arizona Wildcats who reached 78 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: the plays very well. Has a nice break to the ball. 79 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: He made a really important interception in the third quarter 80 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: as Baylor was going in to bring the score closer 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: that kind of blew the game open for Arizona. So 82 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: another guy to keep an eye on Sawyer Robertson, the 83 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: quarterback from Baylor. Day three guy. He's patient, he's deliberate, 84 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: he's disciplined. Made one bad pass, but he's accurate. He 85 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: doesn't wow you, he's just very efficient. A Day three 86 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: guy that could be a number two QB. John Cameron 87 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: if you're looking for a bigger possession wide out six 88 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 3: two nineteen pounds, played well, tracks the ball in the air, 89 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: caught everything that was thrown to him. And Michael Trigg 90 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: is gonna be one of the more interesting players as 91 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: we get closer to the draft. Sort of a tight 92 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 3: end h BAC type guy. He's big, he's an athletic, 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: he moves around the field well. He does have drops. 94 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: He's had drops in the pass. He caught everything on Saturday. 95 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 3: Gets a little melvy at times. He's seeing very chatty. 96 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: You rather have him focused on the football game. But 97 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: he is a playmaker at that tight end position. He's 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: got these inside six three and a half two hundred 99 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: and fifty two pounds plays in the four sixes. He's 100 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna get a lot of There's gonna 101 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: be a lot of opinion on Michael Trigg. When he's good, 102 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: he's very good, but he'll break your heart at times 103 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 3: with some you know, out of the ordinary drops passes 104 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: that go slipping through his hands. 105 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: And Antonio also has some background too. 106 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: This is a third school, he left his previous school 107 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: and you know circumstances that lets some people some questions 108 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: about so so now we keep an eye on with 109 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: him as you go through the draft process. Ohio State's 110 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: been dealing with some injuries and wide receiver Cardinal Tates 111 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: been heard. Jeremiah Smith is playing through something they're very 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: vague with injuries when on't know zactly what's going on there. 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: But he gave their tight end, Max Claire tense to 114 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: show out. 115 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: Last week he was terrific against Rutgers. Seven receptions, one 116 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: hundred and five yards, one TD. You know, it's funny 117 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: because we talked about Max Claire and we said on 118 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: the show, you know, with Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate, 119 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: you're only going to get so many opportunities. And on 120 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: the broadcast they were talking about him being a nice 121 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: safety valve. In that Ohio State passing game, he was 122 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: the main guy because he had to be. And you 123 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: understand why scouts had him graded as a Day two 124 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: pick coming into the season because he moves incredibly well. 125 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: He's fluid in every direction on the field. He catches 126 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: the ball like a wide receiver. Blocke is not his forte. 127 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: He's more of a second level type of blocker that 128 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: needs a running start. But you see that, you see 129 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: the abilities there and the football skills are there, and 130 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: you know, transfers to a house name from Purdue understandable 131 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: because Purdue has been a losing program. 132 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: He's only going to get the ball. 133 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: See the ball so many times he made he really 134 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: cashed in on the opportunity Saturday. Let's see what happens 135 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: this past Saturdaygainst Rutgers. Let's see what happens is coming 136 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: Saturday against Michigan, depending on the health of those two receivers. 137 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: No question about it. 138 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: And then Tony, you like the matchup between Quincy Roads junior, 139 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: the edge rusher for Arkansas going against Trevor Guoseby, Texas 140 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: offensive tackle. 141 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Gooseby got the best of Rhads when 142 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: they went head to head, and you can see the 143 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: upside in both players. But both guys really, in my opinion, 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: need to go back to school. And I was texting 145 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: with somebody familiar with the Texas program. They say, Gooseby 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: the left tackle for the Texas Lawnghorns. It's fifty to 147 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: fifty as to whether or not he's going to come out. 148 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: He's athletic, but he does a lot of bending at 149 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: the waste. He over extends in the blocks, which will 150 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: get him killed on the next level. Rhodes is very athletic. 151 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: He shows good movement skills. He can rush the passer, 152 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: but he's got to get stronger and he's got to 153 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: develop more moves to get off blocks, because once he 154 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: gets locked up in the block, it's game over. I 155 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: like the upside of both of those guys. I like 156 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: them as prospects, but they need a lot of work 157 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: on their game. 158 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: All right, Tony, let's get to our mock draft here. 159 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: But first a reminder that draft season is presented by Moody's, 160 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: a proud sponsor of the New York Football Giants, and 161 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: of course Moody's unites the brightest minds to turn today's 162 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: risk into tomorrow's opportunities. Learn more at Moody's dot com. 163 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: All right, so we'll need a little mock draft here. 164 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: Then we have them questions as well from the fans 165 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: out there. They have some good draft questions. We'll get 166 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: to that. So Tony first overall here, and I'm going 167 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: to say this with the first two picks, this is 168 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: our draft order that me and Tony are working off of. 169 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: It's Titans, Giant, Saints, Jets, Raiders, Browns, Commanders, Bengals, Cardinals, Dolphins. 170 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: Those are our top ten here. This order is going 171 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: to change. So this is more figuring out what players, 172 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: the strength of the class, who's there, what team needs 173 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: are very early in the process. 174 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: Obviously, with free agencies still on the horizon. 175 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: We don't know what the coaches are gonna be for 176 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: some of these teams, we don't know what the needs 177 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: are gonna be exactly. But just to give you an 178 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: idea of what the conversation might be with these teams, 179 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: and I'll start here right now, the Titans and the 180 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Giants are the first two picks. The reason the Giants 181 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: have the second overall pick is because they have not 182 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: had their buy yet. That's gonna happen next week once 183 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: they have their buy, and I think they'll probably win 184 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: a couple of their last four games. The way they're playing, 185 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna drop in the order. But as 186 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: it is now, Titans and Giants are the first two teams. 187 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: And both these teams and we're not doing trades here 188 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: will be on the phone looking the trade back for 189 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: a team looking for a quarterback. 190 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: You know you would think so. 191 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I remember when when the Bears had the 192 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: first pick of the draft and people were talking about 193 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: a team moving up to get Brys Young. I said, 194 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: I didn't think anybody who was gonna move up to 195 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: get to trade up and get Brys young Lo and behold, 196 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: here come the Carolina Panthers. They give away a ton 197 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: of picks. Hasn't worked out for them today. You would 198 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: expect both any team that's at the top looking to 199 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: trade down. I know that's one of the questions we 200 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: have later on, which we'll get to it. It's just conscience. 201 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: Unless there is a Peyton Manning or Trevor Lawrence, although 202 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: he hasn't panned out. It as a way we thought, 203 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: unless there is that generational type of talent at the 204 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: top of the draft, you're always gonna that lock. Got 205 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: the player you proceed to be a lock, you're always 206 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: gonna look to trade down. And there's no player like 207 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: that in this year's draft. And just before we start, 208 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: I didn't force quarterbacks into my top ten. 209 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 4: I say, well, this team. 210 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: Needs a quarterbacks, I'm. 211 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: Gonna put my twentieth rank player there. 212 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 3: I tried to stay true to my board rather than 213 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: go with team needs. 214 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: And we'll talk about that as we go on. 215 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: I was more predictive, so we'll see how this goes in. 216 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: This will be interesting. All right, Let's start with the 217 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Here Tony and look, I think they would 218 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: love with this pick to try to build around cam 219 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: Ward on the offensive side out of the ball with 220 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman or with a wide receiver. Here's the problem, 221 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: nobody's good enough to be selected first overall at those positions. 222 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: The good news and also the bad news for the 223 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: Titans is that their defense is also not very good, 224 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: so they need players all over the place. So I 225 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: want the guy who I think is the best player 226 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: in this draft, and I gave them Marvel Reese. The linebackers, 227 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: last edge player out of Ohio State. You can play 228 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: them on the edge, you can play them a linebacker. 229 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: The Titans need help with both spots. So I went 230 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Rvl Reese number one overall to the Titans. 231 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: I agree with you completely. I'd love to get a 232 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: big left tackle there. There's no one there, and there's 233 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: no left tackles there. Really in the first round. The receivers, 234 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: there's gonna be gonna be a lot of opinion about 235 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: the receivers. None of these guys pan out great. Out 236 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: of his top ten picks. For me, I stayed defense, 237 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: but I went with Ruben Bain. The reason I want 238 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: with Ruben Bain is, amongst other positions, The Titans have 239 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: been in need of an edge rusher of somebody who 240 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: can get to the passer for the longest time. 241 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: Now I know they play at three to four. 242 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: They drafted Iemi from Uclao, though he's on injured reserve 243 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: now in the second round. Like you said, a lot 244 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: depends on who the coaches and the defensive scheme that 245 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: they employed. I have my concerns about Ruby. Bain kind 246 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: of wears down. He's got to be quicker getting off blocks. 247 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: The production isn't there, but he's getting better on the 248 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: football field. He's got growth potential and he fits the 249 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: need and he's one of the best players in this 250 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: year's draft. 251 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: All right, Tony, let's go to number two. I'll let 252 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: you lead off here with the New York Football Giants. 253 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: Who do you have them selecting in your mock? 254 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, you know again, I'd love to put a game 255 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: changing receiver here, but there's none on the board. I'd 256 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: love to have a big time cornerback here, but there's 257 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: no cornerback is really worth a top eight pick. I 258 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 3: wouldn't even mind having a big right tackle. All the 259 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: Giants offensive line is played well. Still, you know you 260 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: can improve the offensive line, maybe you pushed the tackle 261 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: into guard. Came down the two players. For me, one 262 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: of them was Maiah Love because I thought, you know what, 263 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: you want to make Jackson Dart better, and Jackson Dart 264 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: has shown some incredible ability. You get a playmaker like 265 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love. If teams put seven to eight guys in 266 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: the box, they'll get beat by Jackson Dart. If they 267 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: play a regular defense, Jeremiah Love will beat him. But 268 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: when you look at the Giants, the problem with the 269 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: Giants has been defense, especially stopping you run. So I 270 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: had them taking rvel Reese, who you have the Titans 271 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: taking with the first selection, because I think r vel 272 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: Rees indirectly will help Dexter Lawrence will help the run defense. 273 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: He's a three down linebacker. You can put him on 274 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: the field and third and short to stop the run, 275 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: keep him on the field and third and five to 276 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: rush the passer, cover the pass, and he's just hitting 277 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: his stride. He's just gonna get better and better and better. 278 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: I have the Giants taking rvel Reese, and. 279 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: I assume what the Giants say, and you have him 280 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: as an off ball linebacker right because with Abdul Carter, 281 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: Brian Burns and Keevon Thibodeau. And this is gonna you know, 282 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm I might as we'll go with the question here. 283 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: Frank Pafone. 284 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: One part of his question later on is do you 285 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: see him as an edge or a linebacker prospect? And clearly, 286 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: if you're going to the Giants here, you see him 287 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: as an off ball linebacker. 288 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: I see him as an off ball linebacker who will be 289 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: effective on the blitz when you ask him the blitz. 290 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: I hate when they take these guys and they kind 291 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: of pigeonhole them or they corner him two. Well, he's 292 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 3: an EDG dresher, you know, is you're an off ball 293 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: linebacker or vel reason, in my opinion, can do it, 294 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: can do it all. I think he's better as an 295 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: off ball linebacker. But I think he's also a guy 296 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: that you can use in certain situations, maybe his own 297 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: blitz and drop off gul carter back off the line 298 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: or k bon Fibodeau, and he's gonna do that job, 299 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: that sort of a job for you regardless. I absolutely think, 300 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, third and five, he can cover space, he 301 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: can cover the tight end, he can cover the running 302 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: back out of the backfield. 303 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: All right, Tony. This was tough because, like. 304 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: You said, I'm trying to get the Giants a wide 305 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: receiver here with their first round pick, and I think 306 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: eventually the Giants will be picking lower than this, and 307 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: I think they will have a chance to get one. 308 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: The wide receiver I'm looking to get because I think 309 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: he complements the league neighbor as well as Carnell Tape 310 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: as a taller guy that can get vertical, and he's six', 311 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: three he's a good rout Runner Ohio states. PEDIGREE i 312 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: think it's a safe. Pick that's the wide RECEIVER i 313 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 2: would try to get for The. GIANTS i haven't finished 314 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: all my work on the wide receivers, yet but that's 315 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: WHERE i stand right. Now BUT i can't pick him second. 316 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: Overall he's just not good enough to be picked second. 317 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: Overall so for, me Arvrel reese is. Gone SO i 318 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: thought About Ruben, bain who you went first overall To. 319 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Tennessee but The giants have three edge rushers, already AND 320 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: i don't Think bain is quite big enough to be 321 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: a full time defensive. Tackle So i'm, like all, right 322 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: where DO i go? Now to your, POINT i couldn't 323 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: find a. Cornerback as much As Ben Short delane has 324 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: played great this, YEAR i can't pick this guy second. 325 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: OVERALL i just can't do. It So i'm going with 326 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: the guy who's a big upside. Pick and even though 327 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: he's listed as an, EDGE i think as he ages 328 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: gets older and, bigger he's gonna be a three technique 329 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: defensive tackle in The National Football. League i'm Going Keldric 330 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: falk here out Of. Auburn he's already a good run. 331 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: Stopper he is to work on his pass. Rush you 332 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: Have Dexter lawrence as your nose. Tackle The giants run 333 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: defense has been awful again this. Year you get him 334 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: in there at the three. Technique you put him next 335 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: To decks and those two dens to g ed rushers 336 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: With Abdul, Carter Brian, Burns Caveon, thibodau however's on the, 337 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: field AND i think you got a really good defensive front. There, 338 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: again maybe not the biggest position to, need but The 339 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: giants certainly have needed help on that defensive front to 340 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: stop the, run AND i Think Keldrick falk will do. That, 341 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: remember just twenty years, old he's six, six two eighty. 342 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: Five he can grow into that. Role So i'm Going Keldrick, 343 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: falk did you Give Jeremiah love any consideration at this? 344 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: PICK i can't do. It Camp scataboo was so. GOOD 345 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: i know he's, hurt but when he, played he was so. 346 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: Good The giants have run the ball well With, Tyrone 347 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: tracy and Frankly. Tony i'm not, reliving relitigating A Saquon 348 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: barkley top five running back pick to The. Giants i've 349 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: lived that. LIFE i don't want to live that life. 350 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: Again so, NO i. 351 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: Didn't so your confident That scataboo will come back one 352 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: hundred percent because that was an the next, season that 353 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: was an ugly. 354 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: Injury. Yeah, Yeah, LOOK i don't. Know i'm not a. 355 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: DOCTOR i have no. IDEA i hope that he. 356 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: DOES i can't justify where The giants are selecting a 357 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: running back in the top. 358 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: FIVE i just can't do. 359 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: It all, right, Right i'll go pick number three to 360 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: The saints And Ruben bain's left on the, Board, tony 361 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: how COULD i not pick? HIM i Think Tyler shuk's 362 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: been pretty good for. THEM i thought about a quarterback, 363 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: here but The saints have not forced that, position and 364 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: this is not an overwhelming, Class SO i went With 365 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: Rubin bain. Here you, Know benson likes picking guys up 366 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: front on the defensive. 367 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: Line their pass rush is not what it used to. 368 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: Be they need a pass. Rusher Ruben bain still. There 369 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: this was one of the easier ones for. Me If 370 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: ban was still on the, BOARD i gave him to 371 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: The saints offensive. 372 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: Line defensive line and defensive ends and offensive. TACKLES i, 373 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: mean that's them for The, saints right you said. Something 374 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: Tyler shunk has been pretty good for, them and we'll 375 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: have to see How Kyler schunk finishes out the. Season 376 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: but with the third, PICK i gave Them Fernando, mendoza 377 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: thinking That mendoza is going to be an upgrade Over Tyler, 378 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: shuck who played, well was great last season At, louisville 379 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: had an up and down senior. 380 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: Career With, mendoza he was good At. 381 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: Cal he's been in much better this year At. INDIANA 382 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: i love the upside, trajectory which is SOMETHING i put 383 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: a priority on at the quarterback. Position but, again If Tyler, 384 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: shuck who has not been, banned really finishes out the 385 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: season with the, fileurry then The saints don't have to 386 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: take a quarterback with that first. 387 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: Pick as of right, NOW i have them Taking. 388 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: Mendoza all, Right, tony you're first in with Your jets 389 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: and number. 390 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: Four you, know when The jets Traded Mod gardner And 391 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: Quinton williams right before the, DEADLINE i thought it was 392 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: kind of, ridiculous to tell you the. TRUTH i, mean 393 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: they gave away two cornerstone players on, defense two guys 394 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: that play critical positions in their, prime guys that were 395 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: locked up in their. Contract they weren't imminent the free, 396 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 3: agents although they was talked That williams wanted a better. 397 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: Deal you know what player doesn't want a better deal 398 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: in THE. Nfl and they got back a lot of 399 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: draft picks and two underachieving, Players so they got back 400 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: a lot of Unknown everybody, said, well you know they 401 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 3: did this because they need the. Quarterback, well, yeah they 402 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: need a, quarterback but now they also need a cornerback 403 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: and a defensive tackle because he traded away two outstanding. 404 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: Players i'm not going to force a quarterback. HERE i 405 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: can't Take Ty. Sampson you, know he started nine games in. 406 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: COLLEGE i JUST i can't do it BECAUSE i understand 407 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: that it's easier to miss on an early pick this 408 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: year with the hardcap, said with the rookie hardcat salary, 409 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: cap and with the fact that quarterbacks these days are 410 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: traded and cut like never, before and you get a reclamation. 411 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: Project but you, still if you have a top ten, 412 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: picks you want to hit it on that. Pick you 413 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: want to get a good. Player The jets secondary is 414 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: an absolute. MESS i mean it was a mess before 415 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: they Traded Almond. Gardner really Since week, one the receivers 416 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: are open all over the. FIELD i don't know if 417 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: it's a schematic. THING i don't know what it. Is 418 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: the head coach is a Former Pro bowl defense. Cornerback 419 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 3: with the fourth pick of the, Draft i'm Taking Caleb. 420 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: Downs The jet safety spot has been a sore spot 421 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: for a long. Time downs is he doesn't have the 422 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: great stats this, year but he's being asked to do 423 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: different things and he's doing them very. Well and we've 424 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: seen in the past the guy is a. Playmaker was 425 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 3: a playmaker At. Alabama he was fenamenal last year At Ohio. 426 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: State he's doing a good job with At Ohio. State 427 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: he's asking him to do this. Year he's more than 428 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: just a downhill. Safety he's got great, Range he's got 429 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: terrific ball. SKILLS i look At Aaron glen the defensive. 430 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: BACK i look At Caleb. DOWNS i look at the 431 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: need of The jets, secondary And Caleb downs is head 432 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: and shoulders a better prospect than any quarterback that's available 433 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: on the. Board maybe The jets get a quarterback with 434 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: their second first round, Pick maybe they move up and 435 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: get a. QUARTERBACK i can't Take Ty simpson or The 436 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: oregon quarterback Over Caleb downs. 437 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 4: Here i'm Taking Caleb downs for The. Jets. 438 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, LOOK i think he's the best non quarterback, left 439 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: AND i could argue he should have been picked earlier 440 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: than this, already to be honest with he just based 441 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: on quality of. Player so no argument from, There. Tony 442 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: but for, me For Nando mendozo was still on the, 443 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: board SO i gave him to The. Jets, now The 444 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: jets might choose to be patient. Here clearly they're taking 445 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: a law long term building outlook with the way they've. 446 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: Traded to your, point those players their stack, pick not 447 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: just in this year's, draft but next year's draft as. 448 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: Well do they like next year's quarterback class? Better that's 449 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: a risky. Proposition you never know what the quarterback class 450 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: is going to look like at this time of, year 451 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: so you have a chance to Get. MENDOZA i gave 452 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 2: The Jets mendoza at number four because, frankly they need 453 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: a quarterback and they just can't go through another year 454 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: like this with just nothing at that. Spot then you 455 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 2: got to The raiders at number, Five, tony and this 456 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: is one of the ONES i went back and forth 457 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 2: on a few different, times and, again they need an offensive, 458 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: lineman they need a wide. Receiver couldn't find one THAT 459 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: i thought was good enough to give him to him 460 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: at number. 461 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: FIVE i just couldn't do. 462 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: IT i know a lot of people With Jordan tyson this, High, 463 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: tony the guy can't stay. HEALTHY i can't pull the 464 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: trigger on a fifth overall, pick as much AS i 465 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: like the player On tyson so offensive, line same. Deal 466 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: you Know Spencer, fano now We, NOAH i can't get 467 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: myself sold on one of those guys at fifth. Overall 468 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: and THEN i got, thinking, well who Is Mark davis 469 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: is number one advisor that he likes to listen To Tom, 470 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: brady AND i think when you watch Ty simpson play, 471 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: quarterback that's a quarterback That Tom brady is going to, 472 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 2: SAY i think this guy can be a really GOOD nfl. 473 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: Player and While Gino smith is still, good he's, old 474 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: he's in his, thirties he only has a couple of years. 475 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: Left it was a short term deal that they extended him. 476 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: To So i'm going to Go Tye simpson here to The, 477 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: raiders AND i think if they do this, trade they 478 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: can then Trade Gino smith to maybe a team that's 479 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: a little bit quarterback, desperate that doesn't get their quarterback and. 480 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: They want to kind of take a quick. 481 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: Jump i'm looking at You Minnesota, vikings who maybe DECIDE 482 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: jj McCarthy's not your, guy and they use that pick 483 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: then on a wide receiver and offensive. Lineman SO i 484 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: Think Tom brady falls in love with Ty simpson who comes, 485 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: out and that's who The raiders select to pick number. 486 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: Five definitely at a. 487 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: QUARTERBACK i agree with you one hundred on the needed offensive, 488 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: line but they also have needs a defensive. Line AND 489 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: i know in your mock Draft Keldrick falk right now 490 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: is Wearing giant, blue but he's available to The. Raiders 491 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: they need a guy that can rush the. Edge they 492 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: play a four man. Line they need help on that defensive. 493 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: Line it's been a. Disaster it hasn't been good and 494 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: started With Christian wilkins earlier this. Offseason So i'm gonna 495 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 3: go With Keldrick. FALK i think it checks a lot of. 496 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: Boxes they need a guy who can rush the. Passer 497 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: he can do. That you mentioned his size and the 498 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: ability to add growth to his frame and become a 499 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: better run. 500 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 4: Defender that. 501 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: Helps and you, know The raiders in the past have 502 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: gotten one with, big mean defensive, linemen big, productive athletic defensive. 503 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: Lineman this is kind of a throwback. Pick he's the 504 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: top rated player on my. Board it. Fits. 505 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: INDEED i think it's a good pick for The. 506 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: Raiders and the REASON i trouble with The Raiders tony 507 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: is because they do have needs everywhere, defense offensive, line, wide. 508 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: Receiver you can go any direction. 509 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: Here but, again Since falk was gone for, ME i 510 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: couldn't find that that. Guy and you, KNOW i thought 511 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: ABOUT i Had caleb downs in the slot a few different, 512 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: times BUT i eventually decided to slide. 513 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: Him down a little. Bit all, right you're up with 514 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: The browns. Sixth, Overall. 515 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 3: Browns have done a good job on defense And they've 516 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: done almost an equally terrible job on, offense specifically on 517 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: the offensive, line, quarterback and they need some. 518 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: Receivers they done a good job at running. Back. 519 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: Uh you, know a couple of years, ago we looked 520 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: at The browns offensive line and we thought that it 521 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: was going to be a. 522 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: Strength they had some good players up. 523 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: There they did From alabama and they Drafted willis has 524 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 3: really never panned. Out Jack conklin's in and out of 525 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: the lineup with. Injury you, know you look at their 526 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: offensive line. Now Cam, robinson the left, tackle is gonna 527 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: be a free agent after this. Season The browns have 528 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: it out On Jack, conkland so they have a really 529 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 3: good defensey with the signings in the off, Season Carson, 530 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: SWETZINGER i think is gonna be Defensive rookie of The, 531 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: year as he will. Deserves you got to focus on, 532 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: offense and people will say, quarterback, quarterback. Quarterback i'm gonna 533 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: go with the offensive. Line my first offensive tackle comes 534 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: off the. Board i'm gonna With Spencer, fanell WHO i 535 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: project as a right. TACKLE i know people like him a, 536 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: guard BUT i think he's gonna be a right tackle 537 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: in THE. Nfl you, know got to do something to 538 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: help that offensive. Line it's gonna help whatever quarterback you 539 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: have playing back. There it's also gonna Help Quinn Shawn, 540 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: jenkins who's played well when he's on the. 541 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: FIELD i went Quarterback. TONY i think The brown quarterback carousel. 542 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: CONTINUES i gave Them Dante more From oregon the quarterback 543 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: if he comes out. Again we don't know If simpson 544 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: And more gonna come out this, year but, look The 545 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: browns need. 546 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: Somebody at the. 547 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Position they've stockpiled picks as, well so we'll see what 548 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: they end up doing with. This look at The more 549 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: doesn't work, out then you pull the trigger again the following. 550 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: Year you just got to keep picking quarterbacks until you 551 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: find the right. 552 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: One you're picking fifth here. 553 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: Again if you're sitting there and there's another you, know 554 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: quote unquote, General i'm. 555 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: Not gonna use the term. 556 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: Generational if you, look you see like a really true 557 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: blue chip prospect that's sitting there in another. Position, SURE 558 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: i wouldn't Pick Dante. More here here's the. PROBLEM i 559 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: don't think, GUY i don't think the guy's. This SO 560 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: i think at this, point giving you other, OPTIONS i 561 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: think it's worth rolling The dice in the, Quarterback SO 562 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: i Went Dante moore. 563 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: Here interesting to see what they do in the, offseason 564 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: to show watching still on the still on that, roster 565 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: see what they do at the collecting. POSITION i, mean 566 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 3: wouldn't be ironic if they somehow built Bring bill O'Brien 567 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: into the front, office who had incredible success with watching a. 568 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: Quarterback and we'll see what the rest of the year 569 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 3: looks like For Shore sanders And Dylan gabriel as. Well 570 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: maybe that might change their minds too, well to see 571 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: how that, goes all, Right commanders at Seven, TONY. 572 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: I thought About Jeremiah love. 573 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: Here i'm not gonna, lie BUT i think they liked 574 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: To Corey krosky merit enough that they weren't going to 575 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: pull the trigger. There The commander's defense is no. Good 576 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: it's very, bad especially in the back. Half Caleb downs 577 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: is still sitting. There for, ME i had to give 578 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: Him Caleb downs. HERE i really wanted to get him 579 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: to The bengals at eight because The bengals just need 580 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: a defensive player so. BADLY i really wanted to Get 581 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: Caleb downs to The, bengals especially with out their safeties 582 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: have played this. YEAR i couldn't get him past the commanders, 583 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: Here So caleb downs to the. Commanders he's a guy 584 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: that can really transform how you work your. Defense think 585 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: of where Dan quinn came from with The legion Of 586 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: boom With Earl thomas Cam. Chancellor he can use him 587 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: in that type of way as a weapon on that 588 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: defense to just make that commander defense a lot better 589 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: than it. Is SO i Did Caleb downs to the commander's, 590 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: here and this, again it just a matter of how 591 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: high he. WENT i kept moving him to different teams 592 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: because he's such a good. Player But Caleb downs number 593 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: seven to the commanders for, me how about? 594 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: You, yeah, Well downs is off the, board So i'm giving. 595 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: Him Jeremiah. Love, yeah they like a Crosskey, merritt BUT 596 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: i don't know that he's in every down back feature. 597 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: BACK i think With Jeremiah, love you add another piece 598 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: For Jaden daniels and go back to WHAT i said 599 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: about the, giants and then multiply it by two with the. 600 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: COMMANDERS i, mean if you try and stack the, box 601 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: you're gonna get beat By Jaden. Daniels if you lay, 602 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: that you, know to protect Against, daniels Then Jeremiah love 603 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: is going is gonna beat, you and they've got a 604 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: decent offensive. LINE i think this could be the final 605 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: piece for their. OFFENSE i understand what you're saying about their, 606 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: defense but they also have a defensive minded coordinator WHO 607 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: i think is able, to you, know make a mountain 608 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: out of a mole, hill and he'll get the most 609 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: out of the players on that side of the. 610 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: Ball ball spin it, Out, tony that side of the. 611 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 3: BALL i just think With Jeremiah, love you help the 612 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: offense and you make Sure Jayden daniels that much more. 613 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: Effective. 614 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: YEAH i really thought About love, Here. TONY i just 615 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 2: couldn't quite get. There all, right let's go to you, 616 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: First bengals at. 617 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: Eight bengals need help a lot of, areas especially on. 618 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: Defense Peter woods is sitting. THERE i Gave Peter woods 619 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: consideration with The jets, pick BUT i had Got Caleb 620 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 3: downs rated much. Higher you, know they need a lot 621 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: of help on the interior of that defensive. Line they 622 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: Took stewart From TEXAS a AND m with the first 623 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: pick as their edge rusher of the. Future Trey, hendrickson 624 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 3: the other edge, rusher is probably on his way. Out 625 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: we had That Peter woods plays on the, inside which 626 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: is where they need a lot of. HELP i, Mean 627 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: woods is a guy that's got great. Upside production hasn't 628 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: been there this, year but as we've talked about on 629 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: the show numerous, times it's been a terrible season At. 630 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 3: CLEMSON i like his, UPSIDE i like his. Ability he's 631 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: just got to take the game to the next level. 632 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: AGAIN i think it's a good, player one of the 633 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: best players on the, board that fits in need In. 634 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: Cincinnati SO i have The bengals Taking Peter. 635 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: WOODS i thought About Peter woods, here BUT i think 636 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: That Trey hendricks And saga is gonna have to resolve 637 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: itself in one, way shape or for him this. Offseason 638 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: i'd be surprised if he's on The bengals again next, 639 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: year just considering how ugly it was last, offseason and 640 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: now there's even less time left on his contract they 641 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: can franchise. 642 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: Him SO i just don't think he's going to be. 643 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: There and my next favorite defensive, player and this is 644 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: me predicting that this player is going to absolutely blow 645 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: up the combine and become the kind of soup d 646 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: jore and player du jour for all the draft people out. 647 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: THERE i gave him. 648 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: Day David belly the pass rusher out Of Texas. Tech 649 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: The bengals need are going to need a pass rusher 650 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: If Trey henderson is not. THERE i know he's a little, 651 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: undersized but he's got a lot of juice so and 652 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: the production is gonna be, That, tony he might finish, 653 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: with you, know, twelve, thirteen fourteen to fifteen sacks this. 654 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: Year So i'm going With David, bailey edge rusher out 655 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: of the bed out Of Texas. TECH i know he's 656 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: not this highly rated by most, people BUT i think 657 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: once we get to the, DRAFT i think he will be. 658 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: No concern that they go edge rusher back to back. 659 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: Years him And belly And Schamar stewart are very different 660 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: types of edge. Rusher stewart's a lot, bigger SO i 661 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: think they can compliment each other on either side of the. 662 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: Line right. 663 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: Up, Now, Yeah i'm up now number nine for The, 664 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: cardinals a guy that you already selected The. Cardinals you, Know, 665 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: TONY i really wanted to give a wide receiver, again 666 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: BUT i didn't Think, AGAIN i can't get On Jordan 667 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: tyson as the top ten, pick AND i don't Think 668 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: cardinal take Compliments Marvin Harrison. Junior, WELL i think they're 669 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: very similar the size and stuff like, that SO i 670 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: didn't want to go. 671 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: THERE i thought about a defensive. 672 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: TACKLE i thought About Peter woods, here BUT i just 673 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: had to Go spencer for the offensive. Tackle they need 674 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: help on the right. Side they Have Paris campbell left. 675 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: Tackle the right tackle is a bit of a. MESS 676 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: i Think Kelvin beacham's are started there right, now so 677 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: he's a. 678 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Veteran he got to move on from him. 679 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: Eventually SO i Win Spencer fino here for The, cardinals 680 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: who need to get that offensive line a little bit 681 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: better for whatever their quarterback situation looks like next. 682 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: Year, YEAH i completely agree with. You And finel's off my. 683 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: BOARD i had The browns taking him at, Sixth SO 684 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: i have The cardinals Taken Francis mowega the offensive right 685 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: tackle For Miami Maui. 686 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: NOAH i Think tony is aus Pronounced Maui. 687 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: NOAH marioa, okay, RIGHT i should know that is real 688 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: the places for The. Jets but, ANYWAY i, mean he's an. 689 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: ATHLETE a lot of people project him the, guard BUT 690 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: i think he's an athletic right tackle and the. 691 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: Lane johnson sort of. 692 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: Mold he's fluid on the second, level he moves, well he's, 693 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: Strong he's got a lot of, Upside and like you, 694 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: SAY i mean they Started Paris johnson the first round 695 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: pick at the right a couple of years. Ago they 696 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: moved them to the left. Side they need a lot 697 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: of help on the right. Side kelvin beach, HIM i, 698 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: mean he's an undersized the left. Tackle it's trying to 699 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: play on the strong. SIDE i think my ago really 700 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: helps that situation a. 701 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Lot let's go to The DOLPHINS a. Ten, tony you're. 702 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: Up this is really my only. 703 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: REACH i would have liked to put an offensive tackle, 704 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: there but both offensive tackles are off the. Board they 705 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: need help on the defensive. Line you, know this is 706 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: the one. 707 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: Pick THAT i. 708 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: Kind of went off my board, on kind of reached, 709 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: on AND i gave them one. Sword De, layne the 710 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: cornerback OF. LSU i Like delaye a, lot BUT i 711 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: like him more in the middle part of the first 712 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: round rather than the top. Ten he's a, big physical 713 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: corner that can play backed off the. Line he can 714 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: play in man. Coverage he's having a terrific. Season kind 715 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: of reminiscent or fulfilling the promise that he showed two 716 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: years ago For Virginia. Tech we'll see how he runs 717 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: at the. Combine you, know he may not be forty, 718 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: fast but he is football fast and he's got excellent ball. 719 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: SKILLS i Went Francis maunoa. Here he was still on 720 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: the line the. Board for, Me, tony The dolphins offensive 721 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: line has been a problem for. Years whether he's a 722 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: tackle or a, guard it shouldn't matter For. Miami they 723 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: need an offensive. TACKLE i went, there thought about a 724 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: wide receiver. Here With Tyreek kills, injury they want to 725 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: put someone across from Jaywen waddle decided Maw wenoa was 726 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: the better. Pick AND i guess my one disappointment Quick 727 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: tony THAT i couldn't get into the top ten Was Jeremiah. 728 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: LOVE i just couldn't find a landing spot for. Him 729 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: LIKE i, said the car the commanders ended up going. 730 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: Downs in my, version at some POINT i had The 731 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: raiders taking downs and then only two quarterbacks going in 732 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: the top, ten and THEN i Had love going to the, 733 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: commanders AND i kind of went off of. That so 734 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: that was the only THING i couldn't FIND i Think 735 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: love will be a top ten pick in this. DRAFT 736 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: i just couldn't get him onto a team here in my, 737 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: version any regrets when you look at, YOURS i. 738 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: Mean, no because it basically matched up with my TO 739 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: myo except for the tenth pick of the, draft AND 740 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: i feel that that pick The dolphins with a critical 741 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: need at. 742 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 4: Cornerback, now you, know that's what. 743 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: Happens when you force the quarterbacks into the top. Ten 744 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: you get good players who start falling out of the top, 745 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: ten and those teams that end up selecting, eleven, twelve, thirteen, 746 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 3: fourteen you, know are in the driver's seat because they 747 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: can either get The Jeremiah love or they can make 748 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: a big trade for a team that wants to move 749 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: up to get A Jeremiah. Love and you, KNOW i 750 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: understand your scenario because as we've seen in the past 751 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: twenty five, years quarterbacks are always, overdrafted and it's probably 752 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: gonna happen in twenty twenty. SIX i just can't put 753 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: guy players that haven't even played a full season on 754 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: the college level in my top. 755 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Ten i'm, SORRY i totally get, It. 756 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: Tony all, right let's roll through these questions remind their 757 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: draft seat as presented By, moody's a proud partner of 758 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: The New York, Giants, Dcode, Rust, Unlock, Opportunity Learn Moore 759 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: moodies Dot. Com all, Right, tony our first question these 760 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: are all From. Twitter thank you to the folks that. 761 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: Submitted Rob, staton what has Made? Tony what have you 762 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: made Of kaden, McDonald defensive Tackle Ohio state his performances 763 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: and you're hearing anything about the likely of from returning 764 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: pro after the. 765 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 4: Year you always have to. 766 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: Figure that it's more than fifty to fifty that a 767 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: top Rated Ohio state buck guy underclassman's going to enter the. 768 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 3: Draft that's been the, history especially a guy that's already 769 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: won a national championship and is on the number one 770 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: team in the nation right. Now now when we talk 771 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: About Ohio, state everybody talks about wide receivers coming out 772 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 3: Of Ohio, state whether it Be Marvin, Harrison Garrett, Wilson Chris, 773 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: Olave Jeremiah, smith And Mecha. Abuka but if you look 774 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: at the program's, history they've also had some sensational a 775 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: defensive lineman on a consistent. Basis you, know you go 776 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: back To Dan, wilkinson a guy by the name Of Vernon. 777 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 3: Golston some of those guys didn't pan out the bows 778 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: of brothers and with, McDonald remember there were two guys 779 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: on the interior That Ohio state defensive, Line Tyleek williams 780 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 3: who was drafted in the first round by The lions 781 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 3: And Ty hamilton who was drafted in the fifth round 782 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 3: by The, rams which meant that McDonald wasn't getting playing. 783 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: Time But Ohio state has always had strong defensive linemen 784 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: that playing in THE. Nfl so AM i surprised by 785 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: his pure? Dominance, yes based off of the fact that 786 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: he really didn't play too much in twenty twenty, four 787 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: but they didn't need him to. Play he's been a terrific. 788 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: PLAYER i, MEAN i think he's playing probably at a 789 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: higher level than High Leak, williams which if he you, 790 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: know which is something that will have to enter into 791 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: the equation as far as him entering the. 792 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: Draft absolutely right. 793 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: Alight question number, two aiden, Think, tony what are your 794 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: thoughts on Training dad in this year's, Draft so a 795 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: team in need of a quarterback can move up and 796 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: do you think specifically The giants would consider going that. 797 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Route i'll answer that question. First, yes. 798 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely if jackson are continues to play well and they 799 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 2: decide they don't need a quarterback and they're picking that. 800 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: High and Again i'm not sure they will be picking that, 801 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: high but if they, ARE i think this is At 802 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 2: tony where every day that ends at a. 803 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: Y you're gonna try to trade down in this year's. 804 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 4: Draft, yeah and. 805 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: You, know like we said at the, top you, know 806 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: unless there is a generational type talent or that impact 807 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: type of player at the top of the, draft you're 808 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: gonna be working in the. PHONES i, mean last year 809 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: you had the quarterback at the top with Cam. Ward 810 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 3: then you had two outstanding players And Abdill carter And Travis. 811 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: Hunter you had some good players after, That Mason, Graham, Armond. 812 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: Membo you, know so there really Wasn't you were gonna 813 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: have to pay a premium to get up and get 814 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 3: one of those. Selections the cost this year may not 815 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: be as, much but who is a team going to 816 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 3: trade up. For you have to factor that in and 817 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: what would they be willing to give away to move 818 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: up and get a, Player. 819 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: No question about all? 820 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: Right statement number, three and, again a team has to 821 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: be wanting to move up to get that. 822 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Guy having the partners really the. 823 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 2: Trick justin wants to know what, year in your, Opinion, 824 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: tony the WORST nfl draft class of this century both 825 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: in lack of Blue chips in depth and well the 826 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six class blow that one at the water 827 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: with its. 828 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: Ineptitude, WELL i mean that remains to be. Seen AND 829 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: i didn't go back the entire. CENTURY i went back 830 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 3: to twenty thirteen and you look at the two thousand thirteen. 831 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: Draft first pick Was Eric, fisher second pick With Luke 832 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: joker that was pick to third pick Was Deon Jordan Lane. 833 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: Johnson the fourth pick really, good but you go on and, 834 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 3: on it was bust after. Bust you Had Sheldon, richardson 835 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 3: who was a solid player. There and coming out of that, 836 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 3: draft you Know Eric, reid who's had a long. CAREER 837 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 3: i don't know that it's been it's been a distinguished. 838 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: Career BUT i mean the two thoy thirteen draft compared 839 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: to what people thought it was going to be like on, 840 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: PAPER i, mean it was a complete gut. 841 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: AND i think people knew that at the top of 842 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: that draft that those picks weren't your normal Blue chippers 843 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: at the. Time but, yeah it certainly did not did 844 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 2: not Hit John, latini thinking The giants and a good 845 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: linebacker in the middle Rounds, tony any sleepers That giant 846 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: fans can try to look for in terms of an 847 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: inside off ball linebacker in the middle rounds of the. 848 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: Draft you, KNOW i Like David, widgate who's going to 849 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: be an Early day three pick if he enters the. 850 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 3: Draft he's a junior out Of. Maryland ALTHOUGH i hear The. 851 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: Terps the Terra pins are working hard to keep, them 852 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: which may be easier now since they've already announced that 853 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 3: their their coach is coming. Back jayshawn borrow them out Of, 854 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: michigan sort of like a Miniature Avrol, reese an off 855 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: ball linebacker who can also rush the. Passer Lander barton 856 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 3: Of utah has kind of fallen off a. Bit two years. 857 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 3: Ago he was great as A day two. Pick he's 858 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 3: now A day three. Selection but he's shown that ability 859 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: in the past to play in. SPACE a guy that 860 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: we've mentioned here a couple. Times we talked about him 861 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: at length When Mike grenner was On caleb Ellhams or FROM, 862 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: TCU a smaller guy h six' one two and, thirty 863 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: pounds but a great pursuit sideline to sideline linebacker that 864 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 3: can cover. The pass he can get to the sidelines 865 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 3: and shut the corners off from the. Running backs as we, 866 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: talked about this is gonna be a terrific year for off. 867 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: Ball linebackers so If the giants don't get a crack 868 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 3: At An rville reese early in, the draft or they 869 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 3: even pass, on them there'll be guys there in THE 870 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: second I know i have a, third round the second 871 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 3: round And early day THREE that i believe can play 872 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 3: early in their. 873 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: Rookie Seasons, so tony Then then i'll just follow up 874 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: with the second Part Of frank baffone's question. From before 875 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: you think this is PROBABLY and i think it is 876 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 2: one of the best off ball linebacker classes we've seen 877 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: in a. 878 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: LONG time i love. 879 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 4: The off ball. 880 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: LINEBACKER class i think the problem linebacker linebackers these days 881 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: is everybody automatically judges them on. 882 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 4: Can they rush? 883 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: The passer are the air rushers and. It's not we've 884 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: seen this and the results of. The draft, you know 885 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 3: those that four to three week side linebacker has, been devalued, 886 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: you know because a lot of times they stick them 887 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 3: on the inside of. 888 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 4: A, three four and they let them run to. 889 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 3: The ball but with these guys not only a great pursuing, 890 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 3: to run but they can. 891 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 4: Also cover, all. 892 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: Right let's go to our final. 893 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: Two questions these ones come, from Upstairs Big ohio State Fan, 894 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 2: dan salomon one of, Our. Riders tony have you ever 895 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: seen a college have three top ten potential, draft picks 896 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: but while they're two best players on, their rosters still 897 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: are not. Draft ELIGIBLE and i think he's Referring To 898 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: julian Saying And jeremiah smith with those, two players by, the, 899 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: way yeah. 900 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 3: Other things He's Think sonny styles is going to be 901 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: a top. Ten pick i'm not of that. Same MIND 902 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: and I, LIKE styles i just don't think he's a top. 903 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 3: Ten pick and we Are Our ohio state family because 904 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 3: my daughter Graduated From ohio State, in may so and 905 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: she'll be down the City this Saturday At Ohio state 906 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 3: bar watching. 907 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 4: The game. 908 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: You? 909 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 4: Know what and what was the two. 910 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 3: Thousand and five two thousand And six auburn actually had, 911 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: three picks three players. 912 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 4: Looked like in the. 913 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 3: Top Nine ronnie brown with the second pick of the 914 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 3: draft Of, The Dolphins cadillac williams with the fifth pick 915 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: of the draft To the Buccaneers And carlos rogers with 916 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 3: the ninth pick of the draft to The Then, Washington 917 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 3: redskins so that has. Happened before but then the next 918 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: year their, First player ankor was the. Second rounder, so 919 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 3: no there's not been the depth. OF talent i think in. 920 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: Some cases obviously the transfer portal and nil has. Helped 921 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 3: This But ohio state always regularly has guys not only 922 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 3: in the top not in the, first round but in the. 923 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 3: Top fifteen and when you win the, national championships it's 924 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: easier to track those types of players. 925 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: Are there We Got, matthew sittak who Was a. VANDERBILT 926 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: alumni i want to know just how high of a 927 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: Ceiling Does eli. Stowers have he doesn't have the, biggest 928 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 2: frame but he does the modern big slot. 929 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: Tight end who IN the nfl does he remind You Of, tony. 930 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 4: Okay you're gonna have to help me out with the. 931 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: Name here he's as far as, his ability the kid 932 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 3: that played For The New Orleans sate saints all those. 933 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 4: Years Ago, jimmy graham there, you go. 934 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 3: THAT'S exactly, i mean a guy who can, get downfield 935 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 3: make the. Big reception he's tough to cover because even 936 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 3: though he doesn't have the, biggest frame he's still going 937 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 3: to outsize the, defensive backs the safeties in. The secondary 938 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 3: he's still fast enough to. Outrun linebackers he is your 939 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 3: traditional move. TIGHT end i think what happens is In 940 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 3: that vanderbilt offense With The diego pava and, everything else 941 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 3: he kind of gets lost. In it if he was 942 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 3: on an offense that, you know wasn't so dynamic and wasn't, 943 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 3: so diverse his production may be even better than what it. 944 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: Is now and it's pretty good now with fifty seven 945 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 3: receptions seven hundred and. Five, Catches Listen eli stowers has 946 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: been a good player since he was a Sophomore At New. 947 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: Mexico state and the fact Is is vanderbilt made the 948 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: right choice by giving him a large nil deal to, 949 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 3: come back and we're seeing the fruition not only in, 950 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 3: his production But the vanderbilt offense And the. VANDERBILT record 951 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 3: i think stours maybe a day A late day, two 952 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: pick depending on how he, works out no later in the. 953 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: Fourth round but in the, right system he's going to 954 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: be a REAL good nfl. 955 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: Tight end, All, right tony let's. Wrap here we got 956 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 2: three quick matchups. This weekend you want to, Touch on 957 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: we'll be Talking the arizona secondary to open. The show 958 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 2: They Get jordan Tyson In arizona state. 959 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: This week that should. 960 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 3: Be fun that's Gonna Be and tyson had a return. 961 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 3: LAST week i think he had two receptions for sixty yards. 962 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 3: Or something so he's on. The men that's gonna be, a, 963 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 3: big big big, big challenge, a big big Opportunity For, 964 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 3: genesis smith the Safety from Arizona And. Treadon dukes see 965 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: how that works out, for him. 966 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 2: All right Other Matchup rubin Bain against pittsburgh Offensive Tackle 967 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: ryan bear six seven three. TWENTY five i think we've 968 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: talked about him briefly on a, previous show but this 969 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: is a big test. For him and by, THE way 970 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 2: i want To See rube mainstore getting a little bit More. 971 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 2: Production tony he only has three sacks, and look he's 972 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: been great. This year rubin's gonna be a, good Player 973 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: but i'd like to see the production start to kick 974 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: up a little. 975 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: Bit, here rubin let's go. 976 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: Come on coming into, this season a lot, of people, 977 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 3: including myself Thought that bear could be a first. Round 978 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 3: pick he's been up. And down he is a bigger athletic. 979 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 3: Right tackle the thing to watch here is when they're 980 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 3: pitted up at once against. Each Other once bear gets 981 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 3: his hands On ruby bain is being able to get. 982 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 3: Off blocks is he able to defeat the blocks or 983 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 3: is a situation Where When, ryan behar the right Tackle, 984 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: in pittsburgh gets his Hands on ban. Game over it'll 985 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 3: be interesting. To watch remember this is a big Game 986 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 3: because Pittsburgh Beat georgia tech. Last week miami's in a 987 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 3: driver's so this is a big game for. Both teams 988 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 3: as far as who's gonna play IN the acc. 989 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 2: Title, Game yeah miami right on the fringe of the college, 990 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: football playoffs so they need to win every single game 991 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: the rest of. The, way remember there are some questions 992 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: about What rubyen bain's arm length is going to be 993 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: when that gets measured at, the combine how he handles 994 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: a long offensive Tackle, LIKE bear i think we'll Be, 995 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: telling finally another edge rusher offensive. 996 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: Tackle matchup this one of the. 997 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 2: Big Ten Tony Northwestern, caleb tiernan who we've talked about 998 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 2: a lot this year Against gab jakis Out. Of illinois 999 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 2: disappointing Year, for illinois but he's been very productive, nine 1000 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: sacks three. 1001 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: Fource, fumbles yeah. 1002 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 3: He's explosive Tiern in it plays Left. TACKLE northwestern i 1003 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 3: think he's gonna be a right tackle at the, next 1004 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 3: level maybe. 1005 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 4: Even guard he doesn't show that. 1006 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 3: Great lateralge jockas, is quick, he's mobile he can rush, 1007 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 3: the edge he quickly gets up. The fields is this 1008 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 3: is the type of Matchup that jockis can exploit. 1009 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: If you watch. 1010 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 3: The film or on the, other hand This is kiernan 1011 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 3: has an opportunity to prove doubters like myself that he 1012 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: deserves to play left Tackle. 1013 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: On sunday, all right And, then tony that's all, we, 1014 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 2: Got man it. Was fun have A. Happy thanksgiving my 1015 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: friend will be back. Next week still working on what 1016 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 2: our topic is going, to be trying to get a couple. 1017 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 2: Of guests we'll see how. That goes but we're gonna 1018 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 2: have a lot of games to review and look. 1019 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: Forward to we got. 1020 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: Rivalry weekend we'd even Touch On Michigan, ohio state which 1021 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 2: is another game coming up this weekend that should, be 1022 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 2: exciting and then we have the conference championship games to look. 1023 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 2: Forward to so a lot next week on. Draft season 1024 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: tony Enjoy. Your thanksgiving, my Friend, thanks. 1025 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 4: John she say to you and, YOUR family a lot 1026 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 4: of our. 1027 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: Viewers, of course absolutely everybody. Out There. 1028 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: Happy thanksgiving you Can Find draft season on your favorite. 1029 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 2: Podcast Platform prease subscribe has his. Own feed it's also 1030 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: On the giants official podcast, network feed and you can 1031 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: find them In the giants, YouTube panel, giants app and 1032 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 2: everywhere you find. Your Podcast For, Tony Pouline I'm. John 1033 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 2: schwelt we'll see you next Time On. Draft, season everybody 1034 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: Have happy thanksgiving