Speaker 1: Two Teas and a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Cheese and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself.
Speaker 3: And Hey, I'm Erica Jane filling in.
Speaker 2: Filling and I've missed too. We weren't together last week.
Speaker 3: We were not together, and I'm so happy you won
Speaker 3: and congratulations and I'm just super proud.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. It's I'm really excited. I'm really proud
Speaker 2: of my horse and Slate won a Class two.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, just to feel good winners, winners, But
Speaker 3: you guys work hard.
Speaker 2: We work our tail off. But it definitely was one
Speaker 2: of those weekends we're like like, once we were dead, yeah,
Speaker 2: it felt good. But then once we were done, it's
Speaker 2: when you come back and you're like multiple days of
Speaker 2: jet lag and you're just you know, it's almost felt
Speaker 2: like a housewife trip. Oh wow, you know when you
Speaker 2: were because it's so much like drama at the horse
Speaker 2: shows too.
Speaker 3: Pressure. It's pressure, and I'm sure there's a lot of
Speaker 3: people you have it. I can't imagine what it's like
Speaker 3: to have an animal, like a big animal with you.
Speaker 3: You know that you have to perform with basically like,
Speaker 3: that's a lot.
Speaker 2: And just so many different personality types and they can
Speaker 2: read how you're feeling and it's but.
Speaker 3: Is it nice to be writing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean yeah, I mean I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it, and it look great doing it.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I love it. It feels good. How
Speaker 2: was your week last week?
Speaker 3: I'm fine. My anxiety's a little nuts, but yeah, I'm okay.
Speaker 3: You're okay, Yeah, I'm okay. It's fine. It'll all work out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always does.
Speaker 3: It always does.
Speaker 2: So to start off, we've got the reunion charts.
Speaker 3: I looked at I was looking at that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we've got Andy in the middle. Then the
Speaker 2: two first seats, not a surprise to me, are Shannon
Speaker 2: and Tamera. Right the next to Shannon is Gina, and
Speaker 2: then next to Tamra is Emily. And then we go
Speaker 2: back to the other side. Next to Gina is Jen
Speaker 2: and then next to Emily is Heather.
Speaker 3: I want to see that conversation.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: And then Katie is final seat, and then Alexis comes
Speaker 2: in as a friend of for her moment, I'm sure
Speaker 2: she comes in and just you know, apologizes for all
Speaker 2: of her very self aware is my guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah about a self aware is the arrangement and the
Speaker 3: response to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's which.
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about. I didn't get but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna but the end of I mean, we
Speaker 2: were recapping two episodes because we weren't together last week.
Speaker 2: But before we get there, there was a Watch What
Speaker 2: Happens Live where Ryan says he is suing Tamra and
Speaker 2: served her with a lawsuit as Tamra issues apology after
Speaker 2: accusing him of stealing from MLB player so allegedly had
Speaker 2: stolen from the Dodgers player. We know this, and she said,
Speaker 2: you know what, Ryan, we sell more in a month
Speaker 2: than what you stole from the Dodgers player. Tamra alleged
Speaker 2: on Watch What Happens Live as she attempted to defend
Speaker 2: her finances and her businesses. Tamra took to her Instagram
Speaker 2: stories on Friday night to retract her statements about Ryan.
Speaker 2: In a video which she and she posted with Eddie,
Speaker 2: she had to say, did you guys watch Watch What
Speaker 2: Happens Live? It was so good. I will say I
Speaker 2: was a little bit good.
Speaker 3: I had to have a guy, I had to have
Speaker 3: a sip. Yeah, because it's just.
Speaker 2: No good is in the eye of the beholder.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a little bit tired. I did misspeak
Speaker 2: a little bit on a couple of things. I didn't
Speaker 2: mean to say that Ryan stole the money. I met
Speaker 2: Veena made more money than what was stolen from the
Speaker 2: Dodger player, but I didn't mean Ryan. So I apologize
Speaker 2: for that, because, like Andy Cohen said, you're innocent until
Speaker 2: proven guilty. But this made me think, what is the
Speaker 2: number that Ryan's friend or partner or whatever.
Speaker 3: It was north of five hundred thousand dollars? If I
Speaker 3: am a little north of five hundred thousand, Because in
Speaker 3: one of these episodes that we're recapping right now, Ryan
Speaker 3: explains to either Emily or someone at Katie's house he
Speaker 3: had a friend who's a professional gambler and has a
Speaker 3: booky business, and it was something he got in a
Speaker 3: little bit of scrape with the law, and it was
Speaker 3: somewhere north of five hundred thousand dollars. I hate to
Speaker 3: say this, but I think the interpreter, if I'm right
Speaker 3: and you can correct me, the interpreter, shohy Atani's interpreter
Speaker 3: stole millions of dollars. Yeah, that's what I was Now
Speaker 3: how it ended up into the hands of Ryan allegedly
Speaker 3: because don't be seeing me, yeah, or just get in line,
Speaker 3: you choose whatever. I don't know how much money was
Speaker 3: allegedly given to Ryan's partner for friend or but there
Speaker 3: was a deposit apparently into one of Ryan's accounts that
Speaker 3: it cannot be accounted for or something different. Ryan, you
Speaker 3: can correct me if I'm wrong, But that's where this is.
Speaker 3: That's what the thing is. And I am so tired
Speaker 3: of legal problems on thease. I'm tired of my own
Speaker 3: fucking legal problems. I just gonna say that for straight out.
Speaker 3: I'm over the law, and I'm over every housewife lawsuit,
Speaker 3: and I'm over people not being able to talk about
Speaker 3: their legal problems because they can't and they shouldn't and
Speaker 3: they don't. And this is how Shannon gets sucked up
Speaker 3: later on, It's how everybody gets fucked up. You saw
Speaker 3: Lagron Dame herself. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm
Speaker 3: so fucking tired of housewives and they're fucking legal problems.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure everybody from Teresa to me to everybody
Speaker 3: who's ever had one on here is fucking over it.
Speaker 2: It's and also, well, nobody wants to hear about something
Speaker 2: they don't actually get to hear about.
Speaker 3: It's true, and we can't talk about it. And then
Speaker 3: you do, and you don't, you fuck it up and
Speaker 3: then you end up in places and everything is so
Speaker 3: picked up. Part you do yourself no favors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean well. Then, then Ryan took to the
Speaker 2: comment section, which is always the best place to respond
Speaker 2: of an Instagram post, to confirm he had just served
Speaker 2: Tamora with the lawsuit papers earlier in the day, and
Speaker 2: then Ryan shared more details on his lawsuit against Tamara,
Speaker 2: revealing that he even hired the same attorney as Jim Bolina.
Speaker 3: Okay, but that's not the same guy that does all
Speaker 3: the DUIs, is it. No, we had that from the
Speaker 3: earlier episode.
Speaker 2: I think it might be a different Shannon and.
Speaker 3: Gina was it had the same duy lawyer. Now yeah,
Speaker 3: now Jim and Ryan have the same civil lawyer filing
Speaker 3: these suits.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, guys, here's the thing. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, are you doing it for money? Are you
Speaker 2: doing it for attention?
Speaker 3: Because well, it costs money to sue people. That's what
Speaker 3: I was thinking, you know, and it doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 3: you're going to win. And how much money are going
Speaker 3: to get out of these women?
Speaker 2: Yeah? How much do you really think you're going to get?
Speaker 2: You just essentially want more press surrounding it, in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Then the next thing is we see Jen has dinner
Speaker 2: with Katie and Gretchen after news broke that Ryan assuming
Speaker 2: Tamra to give you backstory, Gretchen and Tamra had a
Speaker 2: major there. They definitely do not speak. There's no communication, okay,
Speaker 2: Jen writes Saturday dinner with friends, and then Gretchen responds,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my cheeks hurt from laughing with you girls,
Speaker 2: love you too, Thanks for inviting us to dinner.
Speaker 3: Who's us?
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's her Enslade.
Speaker 3: They're still together?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did not know. Oh yeah, they're still together.
Speaker 3: Once in an airport, he came up to me and
Speaker 3: introduced himself. He was nice years ago.
Speaker 2: The one time I met him, he was nice, But
Speaker 2: I had to also watch season one, two three of
Speaker 2: Orange County and then you no longer think he's nice. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you kind of go through that, yep. I you
Speaker 2: do always wonder when somebody that's not It's one thing
Speaker 2: if somebody was a housewife and they're not anymore, and
Speaker 2: they've maintained friendships within the group, but when they ran
Speaker 2: like us, like us, But when somebody from that was
Speaker 2: never friends comes in.
Speaker 3: It looks a certain way.
Speaker 2: It looks a certain way. You're trying to prove a
Speaker 2: message a certain way, then.
Speaker 3: Anything could be read into that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, are you trying to maybe if I were
Speaker 2: to guess my gush and maybe maybe maybe I'm incorrect.
Speaker 2: Is I don't imagine we're going to see Alexis next season?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, what for because you've played
Speaker 3: all these cards right now? So is there something else
Speaker 3: to give? I don't think that. Well, we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 3: what do I know?
Speaker 2: But I wonder if Gretchen's trying to itch her way
Speaker 2: back in.
Speaker 3: Uh, who knows? You know, that's it's a it's a
Speaker 3: it's a thing.
Speaker 2: It's a thing. Well, then Tamra says there's an Instagram
Speaker 2: account that exposed Ryan An Allegedly Ryan's business partner is
Speaker 2: using Ryan's address is home address. I've got to say this.
Speaker 3: No one I know better not be using mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't use my address for anything. Don't use my address,
Speaker 2: don't use my Postmates, don't use my Uber account.
Speaker 3: I do maybe borrow someone's Netflix.
Speaker 2: Oh, I share my sister's Netflix. I'm years into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well. I think that my friends and I
Speaker 3: we you get the Disney Plus and I can't you
Speaker 3: get that one?
Speaker 2: And then you know, But then when you're in a
Speaker 2: pinch and you're like in a hotel and you need
Speaker 2: Netflix to work, and all of a sudden, I'm like,
Speaker 2: stop calling my sister and she's like, why are you
Speaker 2: stalking me? Because I need help because I forgot the passwords.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm watching on Netflix now is
Speaker 3: Mister McMahon. It's the documentary about Vince Mcmahonslie you want
Speaker 3: to talk about shady just the whole business. And I
Speaker 3: am a massive wrestling fan, have been since I was three.
Speaker 3: I'm from Atlantis, so it's like Ted Turner head, you know,
Speaker 3: like wrestling and this little station called CNN that fifteen
Speaker 3: minute loops seriously wasn't even a big deal anyway. This
Speaker 3: doc is really interesting just to see how the business
Speaker 3: of wrestling and how ferocious Vince McMahon is.
Speaker 2: Is it on Netflix? Okay, that's gonna.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're into it, you have to. It
Speaker 3: has to be your thing.
Speaker 2: But it's definitely mine, It definitely will be mine. Then
Speaker 2: Ryan says Tamra is talking about his friend Matt, who
Speaker 2: has been going through something since September, and then Emily
Speaker 2: says she also heard the rumors about the FBI, and
Speaker 2: Emily says Ryan's career is going to Vegas. My favorite
Speaker 2: is when Emily goes into like lawyers.
Speaker 3: I love her. I was going to say, Emily, I
Speaker 3: love you as a lawyer, and I love it further
Speaker 3: on down as we talk about the Innocence Project. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and no, it's I like it when she puts her
Speaker 3: lawyer hat on because all the bullshit stops with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like that.
Speaker 3: She asks these questions in a very non confrontational way,
Speaker 3: which is really good on her behalf. And she she
Speaker 3: asks questions that are just like, so tell me.
Speaker 2: It looks like, you know, and it's the questions we
Speaker 2: all want to know.
Speaker 3: The answers to she's serving or not just right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's handling it.
Speaker 2: Then Heather, Shannon, and Katie goes shopping. Emily goes to
Speaker 2: Gina's house, Katie and Emily explain what a shit show
Speaker 2: the couple's dinner was.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you forgot about the hug at the end.
Speaker 2: Hold on, remind me of the hug.
Speaker 3: They hugged at the end, Eddie and am Ryan they
Speaker 3: hugged at the end of the dinner.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah they did.
Speaker 3: But see, bros forgive and forget a lot faster than
Speaker 3: bitches do.
Speaker 2: But do you think he actually was forgiving and forgetting her?
Speaker 3: I think he was just, you know what, I think
Speaker 3: it was a lot and I think it was just
Speaker 3: easier to do that, and you know, it is what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean moment like that, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: by the end, Eddie was like, it's freezing at this dinner.
Speaker 2: If I have to hug this guy to get out
Speaker 2: of here, I'm already wearing a blanket.
Speaker 3: Camera's outside, Cara's outside. I know I'm going to get
Speaker 3: it from her when I get in here, so this
Speaker 3: car could.
Speaker 2: Get me the f out of here. Yeah, then they
Speaker 2: go shopping. Heather says there's a lot of history between
Speaker 2: them and maybe they shouldn't be friends. Tamer told Shannon
Speaker 2: she couldn't attend her birthday party after Katie's and then
Speaker 2: Gina is nervous about seeing Heather after taking Emily aside.
Speaker 2: Heather doesn't understand what she did to make Emily feel
Speaker 2: insecure at this point, just say I fucked up a little. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't take your feelings into consideration or.
Speaker 3: It completely went past me. I'm so very sorry. I
Speaker 3: really I didn't mean anything about it. I think the
Speaker 3: easiest way to squash this with for Heather to just
Speaker 3: listen to Emily and just say, you know what, I
Speaker 3: really didn't. Emily just needs to feel hurt. That's what
Speaker 3: you're saying. However you do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Then Emily does work for the Innocent Center, what
Speaker 2: helps wrongfully convicted people get out of prison. She meets
Speaker 2: with Anthony to get a new suit. Anthony is re
Speaker 2: entering society after spending eighteen years behind bars.
Speaker 3: A story at fifteen years old. So that story was heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: I know when I realized he was a teenager when
Speaker 2: that happened.
Speaker 3: And his brother thought that he was going to get
Speaker 3: out his stepbrother or half brother. Yeah, and he was
Speaker 3: the one that did the crime and just thought that, Okay,
Speaker 3: well I'll let my brother Anthony, and because he'll get out,
Speaker 3: and then when Anthony said, I just thought my mom
Speaker 3: was going to make it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was heartbreaking. It was.
Speaker 3: And good for Emily, Good for you, Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 2: I wish they'd show a little bit more of this, like.
Speaker 3: The well, this is the kind of important shit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like to see as opposed to fighting over a tea party.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Katie and her family go out for dinner.
Speaker 2: Katie wishes she had been introduced to her Korean culture
Speaker 2: when she was younger. For Katie's fortieth birthday, they're going
Speaker 2: to Korea to meet her birth mother.
Speaker 3: This is very heavy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot, Katie. I wish you all
Speaker 3: the best. That's a lot.
Speaker 2: Katie has a very cute family and her children our door,
Speaker 2: like you see all that.
Speaker 3: It's a really nice family. Her daughter's adorable son. Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's cute.
Speaker 2: But I think there is a lot of Katie that
Speaker 2: we don't really know. Still at this point, I'm going
Speaker 2: to say something.
Speaker 3: It may sound wrong. There's a lot of Katie Katie
Speaker 3: doesn't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, you know, there is. Yeah. Then
Speaker 2: we get Shannon hosting her sixtieth birthday at the tea house.
Speaker 3: Which is cute, A place that cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love when people say cute. Do
Speaker 2: you like when people say you're cute?
Speaker 3: Yeah, cute, You're so cute, that's cute. You know that
Speaker 3: the ultimate shade is that that's cute for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cute for you. That's so good for you.
Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we get into Emily getting emotional about how
Speaker 2: the drift different dress sizes affected her. The oversized jacket
Speaker 2: I was triggering for her. I think at this point
Speaker 2: Heather's probably just shut down from the converse, like, do
Speaker 2: you see did you see a shift there?
Speaker 3: I saw hither wanting to go in and solve it,
Speaker 3: solve the problem so that she could get down to
Speaker 3: the business of the birthday party. That's what I took
Speaker 3: away from it, and I I think, look, Heather gets
Speaker 3: a bad rap for not feeling or whatever, and I
Speaker 3: kind of get the same thing. It's not that she
Speaker 3: doesn't feel. I think that she just shows her emotions differently.
Speaker 3: This year, all Emily really wanted was just to be heard,
Speaker 3: and sometimes you know, she doesn't come off the way
Speaker 3: that others would want her to.
Speaker 2: But also I'm not saying that you are this way.
Speaker 3: I am this way.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I am both. I've noticed that sometimes and we
Speaker 2: all do this. It's human nature. Is when we've made
Speaker 2: a mistake and you're on television making that mistake, we
Speaker 2: want to keep it moving right along.
Speaker 3: I think everybody does, all of us do, no matter
Speaker 3: what what mistake you make. It's like, can we solve
Speaker 3: this so weekend, Yeah, let's get some potato.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Tamra apologize to Gin and Jen says they
Speaker 2: can talk about this later.
Speaker 3: Good idea.
Speaker 2: Good. I mean, I feel like we're gonna be talking
Speaker 2: about it a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh, London is just about to pop up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like ape, the trip and the cold, rainy
Speaker 3: London is just the best place to really solve our problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Shannon, you know, welcomes the women by gifting
Speaker 2: them a tiny London phone booth, telling them they're going
Speaker 2: to the trip to London. And then but the tea
Speaker 2: party's interrupted by a flower delivery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I knew what this was. This has been
Speaker 3: done before.
Speaker 2: This has been done before. Its nothing, it's nothing interesting.
Speaker 2: And also I thought that is a really expensive olive
Speaker 2: branch just to be a dick, like if you wanted
Speaker 2: to just be funny, but I have it looked like
Speaker 2: the Charlie Brown Christmas tree olive branch. You didn't need
Speaker 2: to go with.
Speaker 3: A huge But maybe that was her way of you really.
Speaker 2: Think that was her expressing on all of branch.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't, I think because I think it,
Speaker 3: do you want to know my honesty? I think it
Speaker 3: was for TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you thought it was going to be like a moment.
Speaker 3: For in what place does Alexis think that a number
Speaker 3: one Shannon wants a okay of flowers from her on
Speaker 3: her birthday and number two that she would be invited
Speaker 3: on Shannon's trip. In no universe can that possibly be.
Speaker 2: It would be impossible to think that that was happening.
Speaker 3: I mean, you would have to suspend a lot of
Speaker 3: well about all reality to think that any of this
Speaker 3: Shannon wants. She doesn't want you there, and she doesn't
Speaker 3: want your flowers, and she doesn't want you to say
Speaker 3: happy birthday, and she also so you can't cry when
Speaker 3: it doesn't go your.
Speaker 2: Life, You can't.
Speaker 3: I was really kind of shocked at that. I know
Speaker 3: we're jumping ahead, but I really was, like, you're a.
Speaker 2: Girl like you just are upset that you're not going
Speaker 2: to be on camera more.
Speaker 3: It feels that way. It just feels like you're upset
Speaker 3: that you're not on the trip and you can't do
Speaker 3: whatever it is that you want to do. But I also,
Speaker 3: but you've done a lot, Alexis. I mean truly, the
Speaker 3: you know, you were most you know, she really gave
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she she gave a lot. But, as
Speaker 2: Shannon says, it's nine weeks too late and she has
Speaker 2: no interest in being friends with her. Shannon says her
Speaker 2: coach told her to do this, which I'm assuming she means.
Speaker 3: John, assuming she did. Yeah, she said that, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: we've heard that multiple times.
Speaker 2: Then Tamer tells Shannon that she butt dialed her the
Speaker 2: day the article came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they left a little bit more in.
Speaker 2: I know you, oh got got a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh delicious, look at that. And then
Speaker 2: Shannon tells the lady she created a text to Alexis.
Speaker 2: It says, Hello, Alexis, it's Shannon Badore. I'm hosting a
Speaker 2: trip to Europe with my friends and I just wanted
Speaker 2: to make it clear you're not invited. Okay, do you
Speaker 2: think you need to let people know when they're not invited.
Speaker 3: No, I don't, but in this particular crafted circumstance, I
Speaker 3: guess it's good to do.
Speaker 2: So. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I again, I don't know. Common sense would tell me Alexis,
Speaker 3: you're not coming on this trip?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then but I don't know.
Speaker 3: The text just kind of drives the point home.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But also I love when they all write to
Speaker 2: each other in full names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, I'm pretty sure she would have known that
Speaker 2: it was you, Shannon and her.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder what she has Shannon stored in as
Speaker 3: her phone.
Speaker 2: Because she always says Shannon, but door, Well there's the door, Shannon, door. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was her one line, she got it, one line.
Speaker 2: Do you think Shannon should have softened the text before
Speaker 2: sending no, I feel like translation, Alexis knew this was
Speaker 2: the big trip event, Alexis knew she was probably fucked
Speaker 2: out of the trip, and Alexis thought sending a literal
Speaker 2: olive branch would be her coach seat to London.
Speaker 3: Did you just say coach?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't think she was gonna get were flying yet Blue?
Speaker 3: I didn't know Jet Blue.
Speaker 2: I didn't know they had laid down pads.
Speaker 3: I didn't either.
Speaker 2: Me.
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, oh, Jeff Blue does that.
Speaker 2: Well, then I started thinking I should trap. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go on Trap Blue next time.
Speaker 3: You know what, me too, Jeff Blue. If you hear
Speaker 3: us like, let us know, let us for us to go.
Speaker 3: We'd like to go somewhere. We didn't know you had
Speaker 3: such fabulous planes.
Speaker 2: We had no idea that you could lay down and
Speaker 2: get some.
Speaker 3: Pin now that I do know.
Speaker 2: We also didn't know you could make speakers on the
Speaker 2: you could act as yeah.
Speaker 3: I did not also do. I was shocked that Heather
Speaker 3: got on the mic and was telling everybody it was
Speaker 3: Shannon's birthday and that she was single. Yes, I would
Speaker 3: like to get on the mic Jet Blue and talk
Speaker 3: about my friend Teddy.
Speaker 2: Listen, if we can get a trip somewhere Jet Blue.
Speaker 2: Erica will get on and sing I will, she will,
Speaker 2: I will do?
Speaker 3: I will? Yeah, where are we going?
Speaker 2: We're open to go anywhere that's expensive.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't need this, don't say the word anywhere,
Speaker 3: and then we end up in like.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need to be zipping off to
Speaker 2: Vegas on Jet Blow I need No, I want something
Speaker 2: for it. I want something.
Speaker 3: I want the London treatment, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I want next level. But then Jen and Katie
Speaker 2: go over to Alexis's house. My favorite part about this
Speaker 2: is that John Janson is upstairs.
Speaker 3: I noticed that in the end. We found out at
Speaker 3: the end he was upstairs, probably listening.
Speaker 2: In for sure, listening in. Alexis reads the text from
Speaker 2: Shannon and says, she's fucking done. Alexis says, if Shannon
Speaker 2: hadn't borrowed the money and paide on back, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: be in this situation.
Speaker 3: But see the word we, Yeah, why does she have.
Speaker 2: To ride so hard? Well for every guy?
Speaker 3: The thing John's in that with Shannon, you're you, Alexis.
Speaker 3: I know you love him, and you guys are engaged.
Speaker 3: You're choosing to put yourself in there. I remember when
Speaker 3: Tom I was Tom's third wife and his second wife.
Speaker 3: They were divorced. Tom and I got married, and their
Speaker 3: property fight meaning the money, yeah, went on throughout like
Speaker 3: the first couple of years of our marriage. I chose
Speaker 3: I could not get involved. Does that make sense? Like
Speaker 3: I can't get involved in that? That was his problem
Speaker 3: before me, and I know that you guys know each other,
Speaker 3: Shannon and Alexis and as a friend group, but you
Speaker 3: do yourself no favors by inserting yourself into something that
Speaker 3: John and Shannon had going on. I don't know, that's
Speaker 3: just my opinion through it.
Speaker 2: So every story. Yeah, and also I mean.
Speaker 3: You probably would got have gone on the trip had
Speaker 3: you been just death inch nicer. Yeah, just a touch,
Speaker 3: just to swear to God, you would have been on
Speaker 3: the trip if you'd just been an inch nicer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't have to throw it in her
Speaker 2: face every truth.
Speaker 3: Every time, everything, every time, It's okay once or twice.
Speaker 2: But because then I got real excited because John joined
Speaker 2: Alexis and her confessional. Yeah, I saw that he never
Speaker 2: wanted to be He didn't ever want the spotlight though Erica.
Speaker 2: He wanted to stay out of it.
Speaker 3: Things changed hit well.
Speaker 2: John says that he didn't want to take legal action,
Speaker 2: but he was days away from crossing the statute of
Speaker 2: limitations on being able to do anything legally. John says,
Speaker 2: Shannon one hundred percent knew these were loans, and they
Speaker 2: have proof.
Speaker 3: Let's see the proof already then, But I think that
Speaker 3: jumping ahead, he has a promissory note.
Speaker 2: But have we seen the promisory note?
Speaker 3: Well, we as an audience have not. But has anyone
Speaker 3: else laid eyes on it?
Speaker 2: I do not know. But then Alexis says she won't
Speaker 2: be around this group anymore, that she's done, and throws
Speaker 2: Katie and Jen out of her house. Well, clearly you're
Speaker 2: around the.
Speaker 3: Because so so you didn't hold up to your word.
Speaker 3: You will be around and I guarantee you if they
Speaker 3: ask you back next year, you'll go. And so please
Speaker 3: tell me, let's just cut this shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's cut the bs. But like Alexis is a
Speaker 2: little bit like a hamster when she's like spinning on
Speaker 2: the wheel, going kind of out of cast. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I get that the word victim has thrown a lot
Speaker 2: in this group, but at this point, I'm like, Alexis,
Speaker 2: you're acting like the victim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't act hurt. I just when she throws
Speaker 3: them out of the house, which was kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it was kind of cute, But you can't really think
Speaker 3: that you're going to go on this trip right and
Speaker 3: then go upstairs and cry and say fuck them. They
Speaker 3: don't have the power to bring you on this trip.
Speaker 3: You had the power to take yourself on this trip.
Speaker 3: Had you just been a little bit nicer.
Speaker 2: Had you just maybe not gotten so involved and had
Speaker 2: to shove it down her throat. If it's an authentic
Speaker 2: relationship that you're having with John, just let it be that.
Speaker 3: Let it be that, let him fight. You can come in,
Speaker 3: but it can't be your whole purpose.
Speaker 2: And if John is doing so well financially, just give
Speaker 2: her the freaking money. Sorry, we'll take a little break
Speaker 2: and we'll come back and talk about episode fourteen. We
Speaker 2: are back to talk about episode fourteen. This first scene
Speaker 2: I think is important because.
Speaker 3: It reminded me that I need to get my memory.
Speaker 2: I know I'm due for mine too. Should we go
Speaker 2: together and then not ask each other how it went?
Speaker 3: Yes, and then we'll both get very upset because we're
Speaker 3: both very emotional.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: Well, they all I have dense breash tissue.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have done. I've gotten a mammogram,
Speaker 2: but they didn't say that.
Speaker 3: So and they probably then you probably don't.
Speaker 2: But Alexis, She says that Shannon lets him know that
Speaker 2: Alexis responded to the uninvited text with a text that
Speaker 2: says that Shannon could scrounge up the funds to pay
Speaker 2: for her future husband his seventy five thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just call it what it is. It's everyone's trip.
Speaker 3: One person gets to be the lead. That's it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we go on and we continue on the mammograms.
Speaker 2: We realize that everybody's good except for Heather. They don't
Speaker 2: check on Heather.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I mean, I get it. Everybody's concerned about
Speaker 3: you know, she's cheering. We hear her go yay because
Speaker 3: oh Jen had a lump, but it turned out to
Speaker 3: be just like scar tissue or something. So I mean
Speaker 3: I could see that, like, you know, yeah, then loving
Speaker 3: this whole situation, you go, oh.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks, Oh get it. Then the women pack for London,
Speaker 2: Sophie Shannon's daughters.
Speaker 3: Another packing scene.
Speaker 2: I love those me too, you know what those are
Speaker 2: also things that feel so natural. Well, I just I.
Speaker 3: Just I just do it and it is what it is.
Speaker 2: But I have to be honest, I don't actually need
Speaker 2: to see people packing to know they're going on a trip.
Speaker 2: I just believe that, like when you go on a trip,
Speaker 2: you packed, when you show up with luggage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I kind of there's some things that I'm like,
Speaker 3: but people know that we're just doing it. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: packing thing is is cute, but at the same time
Speaker 3: can feel forced on some.
Speaker 2: Yeah then especially when somebody is packing alone and then
Speaker 2: they have to like I forget what I was just watching,
Speaker 2: Like I.
Speaker 3: Had to pack alone and then I had to unpack
Speaker 3: the pack.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was interesting because I was like, okay, packing and
Speaker 3: then I was like, that's not it. No unpacked and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're like it has to actually match what
Speaker 2: I am, right, I'm not. Marge did a whole packing
Speaker 2: scene where she talked to her dog like I was.
Speaker 3: Like, I used to do that to because it was
Speaker 3: just us at the house. I'd be like, hey, Tiaga,
Speaker 3: what do you think of this? By the way, I
Speaker 3: love Emily's dog and I keep saying that, and I
Speaker 3: love it that we get to see everybody's dog. Gina
Speaker 3: has two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're cuteaball and something.
Speaker 3: Or something else Meet Ball.
Speaker 2: Jen says Tama will never change her behavior, and Ryan
Speaker 2: calls Tamra tacky. I'm like Ryan paints flatter boy Han
Speaker 2: calling somebody else.
Speaker 3: Tacking between them is just funny to me. I know
Speaker 3: it's not right, I'm just laughing, but like, why tack.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like two girls, like two teenage girls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hilarious. Tamra is worried their friendship will be
Speaker 2: affected by what happened, but she didn't lie about anything. Well,
Speaker 2: i'm gonna say it's affected.
Speaker 3: Yeah to say, I'm sure you've noticed it's affected.
Speaker 2: I'm sure if you haven't noticed, you're gonna notice once
Speaker 2: you get on the trip, it's affected. It's affecting, it's affecting. Uh.
Speaker 2: Then the ladies arrive in London. Shannon introduces herself at the.
Speaker 3: Hotel Jet Blue, give us a trip.
Speaker 2: Jet Blue. We're still here.
Speaker 3: We're still here Jet Blue.
Speaker 2: The Duchess of Corona del Mar and the girls are
Speaker 2: her ladies and waiting.
Speaker 3: And the people at the hotel it did not fall.
Speaker 3: Did you see their faces?
Speaker 2: They were like, oh.
Speaker 3: We already had some duchess from America and it didn't
Speaker 3: work out. Yeah, so we're not really into y'all. Okay,
Speaker 3: they're not into us.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh no, Well, then Shannon gives everyone Birberry scarves.
Speaker 2: Those are cute.
Speaker 3: I like that. That was a nice welcome gift. Then
Speaker 3: we had to hear about how did you get the money?
Speaker 2: Yeah, between the money with the glam, like, how do
Speaker 2: you have the money for Jenda glam? How do you
Speaker 2: have this? Also? Then Gina's like, I've just been stalking
Speaker 2: my glam on how they do it. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: glam myself. It's just it's not for glaming ourselves. Isn't
Speaker 2: for everyone.
Speaker 3: I can like we did in France, but I you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I can, I don't. I don't like to.
Speaker 3: I don't like to.
Speaker 2: Then they talk about Tamer and Heather discussed the clip
Speaker 2: of Shannon on Jeff Lewis, basically admitting she did alone
Speaker 2: and also telling Jeff she had never thought about whether
Speaker 2: John had heard the crash or not. We have to
Speaker 2: remember Jeff and Shannon are friends, right, very close friends.
Speaker 2: So okay, so if you and I were going to
Speaker 2: do something to discuss something that's not great about the
Speaker 2: other one, and we were going to do it on
Speaker 2: a live radio show, we probably would discuss it a
Speaker 2: little prior.
Speaker 3: So you're what you're saying is you don't think that
Speaker 3: he discussed it with her? Do you think he kind
Speaker 3: of threw her under the bus? Or she was just no.
Speaker 2: She did discuss it with her. I think they went
Speaker 2: in with a game plan and she was trying to
Speaker 2: show that she's you know, it is what it is like.
Speaker 2: I just don't think, especially knowing how much Jeff and I.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll see you next week. Jeff, where are
Speaker 2: you going to see him on a radio show?
Speaker 3: Why are you doing this?
Speaker 2: You know, Erica, there's not much I don't say yes
Speaker 2: to these days.
Speaker 3: You mean there's not much you don't say no to?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's not much. Yeah whatever, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I'll be there. I'll be there. You guys
Speaker 2: send a car, I'll be there. Do I get a
Speaker 2: free oatmeal down the stairs below a serious XM I'm in.
Speaker 3: Son of a Bitch.
Speaker 2: I you got me with a latte?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know it doesn't take much.
Speaker 3: You guys don't like each other.
Speaker 2: Me and Jeff. Yeah, I like Jeff. He just shit
Speaker 2: talks my business every time he gets a chance. But
Speaker 2: the last time I was on this is the crazy part.
Speaker 2: He shit talked my business while I was on. But
Speaker 2: then I got like seventy four sign ups from it.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get more so, so gome back on We're
Speaker 3: all in Okay, So I was like, you know what
Speaker 3: they say, Hey, I hate Jeff Lewis, therefore I'm signing
Speaker 3: up for you must be.
Speaker 2: I was like, get it, okay. But then Heather tells
Speaker 2: Tamra what Shannon told her in Sonoma, how John didn't
Speaker 2: call her after the accident, and Tarama says, Shannon is
Speaker 2: using emotional manipulation on Heather to play the victim.
Speaker 3: So let's get this timeline straight. Yeah, because maybe I
Speaker 3: didn't catch it all. Shannon runs into the house, bust
Speaker 3: her face open, and then she calls John, but he
Speaker 3: doesn't come out, like what am I missing here?
Speaker 2: Okay? So she was at John's house.
Speaker 3: Okay, at John's.
Speaker 2: House, so was his I believe, And if I'm incorrect
Speaker 2: on any of this information, I'm going off like what
Speaker 2: I heard months ago on social media, Shannon is there.
Speaker 2: There's an argument between Shannon and John and potentially John's daughter.
Speaker 3: She's an adult daughter, She's an adult daughter.
Speaker 2: Some kind of argument. Shannon gets in the car, peels off,
Speaker 2: gets in the accident, and then that's kind of all
Speaker 2: we know. We see the video of that.
Speaker 3: Right, and so when it comes to this picture or
Speaker 3: calling him, Tell me what is this I'm missing here.
Speaker 2: I think what she's trying to say is she sent
Speaker 2: that picture to John.
Speaker 3: Right, and we we thought we saw it in the
Speaker 3: photo room, not in the fucking texts.
Speaker 2: But also we did see that John took her to
Speaker 2: the hospital. Yeah, so I don't know if that was
Speaker 2: the next day, but like we saw a couple days
Speaker 2: later John, Shannon's walking into her house with a sling
Speaker 2: on her arm and John is walking with her. I
Speaker 2: also think when two people are intoxicated and having an argument,
Speaker 2: maybe it's not the best time to be spending more
Speaker 2: time together, especially after hitting a house, hitting a house
Speaker 2: or busting your face open. Like you, that obviously happened
Speaker 2: because you two were together and having an argument. I
Speaker 2: don't think that how and in a happy time?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think they were having a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think. Do you think that Jeff
Speaker 2: Lewis clips are even that damning?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do you do? Because what I really thought,
Speaker 3: unlike you, I thought, oh, her stream of she feels
Speaker 3: comfortable with Jeff. I knew they were friends. In her
Speaker 3: stream of consciousness came out, Oh that's what I thought, Well,
Speaker 3: you're probably right on that.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 3: But or maybe that's the story that she's decided. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know that's the truth. I just
Speaker 3: don't know enough about it, know what I do know,
Speaker 3: I'm conflicted. I know that I don't I know that
Speaker 3: I'm conflicted about what's happening here.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm conflicted by everybody's terrible accents.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see anymore.
Speaker 2: It's cute once it's cute, but also like when the
Speaker 2: producer has to step in and they show the producer
Speaker 2: being like, all right, that's enough for that. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: means no more British accent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but let's call Durrey if we want the British.
Speaker 3: It's okay, and she's right over here. I can get
Speaker 3: her right over here.
Speaker 2: We'll get on it, Dre, Can you give us an
Speaker 2: accent real quick?
Speaker 3: I love so cute.
Speaker 2: Well, then they decided to go on this boat, which
Speaker 2: I didn't really understand. They were freezing to death.
Speaker 3: Hold on the Thames right spelled thhas the Thames, the
Speaker 3: Thames whatever. That thing is dirty and I think everybody
Speaker 3: in London will agree it is. Why the fuck are
Speaker 3: we getting on a speed boat.
Speaker 2: In the cold weather and raincoats.
Speaker 3: Raincoats wet looks like it's raining in the Thames.
Speaker 2: No. Also, I don't know. I don't necessarily like because
Speaker 2: maybe I'm unlike you, who I don't know a ton
Speaker 2: about the world, like you know, well, you don't, Erica,
Speaker 2: You're like an encyclopedia. Like we could say anything and
Speaker 2: you'll be like, oh, in nineteen seventy two or eighteen
Speaker 2: forty six, this happened, Like I have no idea. So
Speaker 2: when they when a tour.
Speaker 3: Guide makes jokes, they don't get them.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm neither what I and you know what?
Speaker 3: You don't have the Eiffel Tower in London?
Speaker 2: That one, but the other one?
Speaker 3: Which was the other one? Catch it? Which one I don't?
Speaker 2: I couldn't learn it, but I remember thinking, is that right?
Speaker 3: Which one is it?
Speaker 2: They made another joke something about a bridge or something
Speaker 2: or else.
Speaker 3: Tamar knew it was in Have a sue And I
Speaker 3: want to know, why is the real London bridge in
Speaker 3: Have a Suite? Is that real? And how did it
Speaker 3: end up there? And why? Now I gotta know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see That's what I'm saying. Would you have would
Speaker 2: you have felt upset if it was your birthday trip
Speaker 2: and you had to sit on the cold boat by yourself.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've done worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah I would.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to say. The fun part about being
Speaker 3: on one of those boats is you have a partner
Speaker 3: and you're laughing and your yeah, and your hair isn't
Speaker 3: blowing off, which my hair has blown off, So I'm
Speaker 3: not like shading her hair. It's just you know, her
Speaker 3: tracks are slipping, yeah.
Speaker 2: Her tracks, And and that also shows when you don't
Speaker 2: have glam and you're doing your own hair, the tracks
Speaker 2: are going to show sometimes.
Speaker 3: No, I've seen some glam on my show where tracks
Speaker 3: show yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I will keep that to myself because I once
Speaker 3: was like, I I.
Speaker 2: Know, you know, I remember. Then Katie tries to open
Speaker 2: up and say that she's going to meet her birth mother.
Speaker 2: She gets emotional explaining her birth mother was fifteen when.
Speaker 3: Market in a factory.
Speaker 2: I know, I feel.
Speaker 3: Like, I feel like this is I hope these women
Speaker 3: appreciate how heavy this is for Katie. That's the only
Speaker 3: word I can come up with, because that's a lot.
Speaker 3: You know, you're to meet your mother on your fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2: And she has the concern that, like maybe her mother's
Speaker 2: not going to meet her.
Speaker 3: It's a valid concern. You don't know, nothing is for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she says, like, why I hope the
Speaker 2: plan is I hope we.
Speaker 3: Well that's probably the best you can say. I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel for Katie in this moment, and I hope.
Speaker 3: I certainly was like, wow, that's a lot, you know that.
Speaker 3: I hope. I want Katie. I want it to go
Speaker 3: beautifully for you. I really do, because you can tell
Speaker 3: there's that need there and I want I want that
Speaker 3: for her. I want her to have a beautiful, happy
Speaker 3: ending on that. I really do.
Speaker 2: Then we get back into the mammogram results and Heather
Speaker 2: gets emotional explaining to the women. The women apologize at
Speaker 2: this point when Tam was the first one to ask,
Speaker 2: I was like, get it, Tam, and did Heather tell
Speaker 2: you that? Ladies?
Speaker 3: Literally? So, how is it? Mammorgam? People want to talk
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 2: Listen. I come. I was like, that was brilliant.
Speaker 3: But Tam was good hard for the money.
Speaker 2: She handled it nicely. She was like here you go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw you this softball.
Speaker 3: You take it from here, right, you take it from here.
Speaker 2: Swing at it with Ryan's alleged bookie, Let's go.
Speaker 3: Teddy. That was actually kind of cute.
Speaker 2: But then Emily asked Shannon how her lawsuit's going that
Speaker 2: this is the part I can't remember. Which of the
Speaker 2: women goes, she doesn't want to talk about that, and
Speaker 2: then another one of the women women go, oh, no,
Speaker 2: she loves to talk about it, right, Shannon, should we.
Speaker 3: Talk said that shady bitch. That's brilliant thought, Yes, she
Speaker 3: wants to talk about that.
Speaker 2: She loves to talk about it. And then Shon's like,
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about Okay, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: Tamera questions why should go on Jeff Lewis to talk
Speaker 2: about it for an hour? Shannon says she has the
Speaker 2: right to defend herself and that John sent her a
Speaker 2: promisory note. Everybody is surprised by that.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm talking about. When did he send
Speaker 3: you this promisory note? So you're see, you're going on
Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis saying one thing, but then right here you're
Speaker 3: saying he's sent a promisory note. This is why.
Speaker 2: But I have a question because I've never been sent
Speaker 2: a promisory I.
Speaker 3: Thought you're I've never been out what.
Speaker 2: I don't think you live in America? Sorry not to brag,
Speaker 2: but I haven't you Okay, girl, you know what.
Speaker 3: I'm a drama up later a legal zoom dot com
Speaker 3: getting on my nerves. I want compensation bugging me right?
Speaker 2: But on a promissory note? Is there like? Is that
Speaker 2: where you even have like a notary?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Is that a real depends? I think and Emily would
Speaker 3: be a borrow to tell you this. Promisory notes are
Speaker 3: basically I promise you to pay this back now how long?
Speaker 3: I don't know what do they have?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 3: I think they stick up in core? I know somebody
Speaker 3: who because text don't write, yes they do. Don't you
Speaker 3: be testing anything like that?
Speaker 2: A text can be used in court.
Speaker 3: Any email, any text messages, huh, you'll be. You shouldn't
Speaker 3: be using the phone writing shit down if that's what
Speaker 3: you're worried about.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not worried. I'm now I'm worried about every text.
Speaker 3: All of you, the entire world should be worried because
Speaker 3: you're all digitizing everything. Yeah, and even something as simple
Speaker 3: as like I hate you or something you know that
Speaker 3: you could read one way or another. It's like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: you said this, Well yeah I can okay, Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: text are Yeah, I didn't realize that. Yeah, your phone
Speaker 3: calls are private.
Speaker 2: Phone calls are private, but texts or not.
Speaker 3: Text and emails are not interesting.
Speaker 2: I knew emails weren't, but I thought text were.
Speaker 3: But no, the same thing.
Speaker 2: Heather brings up what happened in Sonoma and Shannon gets emotional,
Speaker 2: saying she will never know if John heard her in
Speaker 2: the accident or not. Heather says she feels used by Shannon.
Speaker 2: Shannon says, this is a reality show that has trickled
Speaker 2: into her life. Let's talk about this a little bit.
Speaker 3: Who you talking to? Yeah, like, yes, what would you
Speaker 3: like to say?
Speaker 2: No, I would like to say that. And then all
Speaker 2: the women are like, well, this is my real life.
Speaker 2: Well this is my Like I was surprised they used
Speaker 2: that line.
Speaker 3: I was too, Well, this is a reality show that
Speaker 3: is trickled into my real life.
Speaker 2: Like if we're all supposed to but.
Speaker 3: Some don't and you know that, Yeah, I know what
Speaker 3: you're about to say, and some people don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people don't.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. In my case, it was unavoidable,
Speaker 3: like there was no way if I even wanted to
Speaker 3: not talk about these things, they were going to be
Speaker 3: talked about because they were everywhere. Yeah, and they the
Speaker 3: reality component being on a reality show definitely hurts both ways.
Speaker 2: Do you think if it never went public in the
Speaker 2: press and those types of things, like if it was
Speaker 2: a different time or different whatever, that you would have
Speaker 2: ever talked about it.
Speaker 3: I mean you would have to talk about it because
Speaker 3: it would have been a bad legal story. Yeah, but yes,
Speaker 3: you would talk about it if I wasn't a public person.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it would come up at dinner
Speaker 3: or wherever else. But when you're a public person and
Speaker 3: then these things happen and your own reality show, it's
Speaker 3: like gasoline and matches. Yeah. So yes, I mean, if
Speaker 3: you're an actor and you have legal problems, Okay, you're
Speaker 3: an actor that has legal problems, you don't. No one's
Speaker 3: going to ask you. I mean I'm sure they do. Ye,
Speaker 3: You're not going to be forced to talk about it
Speaker 3: like we are on these shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then because then you're avoiding your real life, right,
Speaker 3: which is just what I'm I say forced. When I
Speaker 3: say forced, I mean you're avoiding the real things that
Speaker 3: are happening.
Speaker 2: In your life, which nobody really wants to see people
Speaker 2: which part nobody wants to see you fully of not you,
Speaker 2: But no, I'm saying avoiding. No, people want to hear
Speaker 2: at least how you're feeling, like, even if you can't
Speaker 2: discuss something, people want to feel like understand the emotion. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they want to connect.
Speaker 3: I think. But the one thing I will say is
Speaker 3: the continuous interrogation of these women and myself included in
Speaker 3: legal fights when you know you can't be talking about it,
Speaker 3: but you guys still ask questions anyway, not just like hey,
Speaker 3: how's it going, but like so I heard this, and
Speaker 3: so I heard that, Because when you're in legal battles,
Speaker 3: you're damned if you do, when you're damned if you don't.
Speaker 3: You're always tell you to shut your mouth.
Speaker 2: But I think also when you're on a reality show,
Speaker 2: sometimes you ask questions knowing you're not going to get
Speaker 2: the answer and that people can't give it. But at
Speaker 2: least then you're giving the show. Well yes, and you're
Speaker 2: a sound bites. You're putting it out there.
Speaker 3: You're putting it out there, but you're also planting seeds
Speaker 3: of doubt and fill in the blanks in the audience
Speaker 3: because the facts aren't there yet, so then everybody can
Speaker 3: weigh in and make your story seem one way or
Speaker 3: the other. And well, not that fair matters in life, right,
Speaker 3: but it's not fair.
Speaker 2: Well, then Tamar tells Shannon she's not the victim here,
Speaker 2: and Shannon walks out and Gina follows Shannon. But before that,
Speaker 2: Tamara like, you know, Shannon and Tamara are at it
Speaker 2: a little bit, and tam starts laughing because she says,
Speaker 2: it looks like she's behind bars. I may have split
Speaker 2: up a little bit when she was clever there, but
Speaker 2: I have, and I've told this to Tamor's face. I
Speaker 2: don't like the word victim.
Speaker 3: I don't like the word victim.
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't like it anyway any no matter.
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's let's find a new.
Speaker 3: Word, any other one stop playing the whatever. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what the new word would be.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But for whatever reason, whenever anybody says victim,
Speaker 2: it's hard. I'm like, ugh, even when somebody is being
Speaker 2: a victim, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like one of It's like the
Speaker 3: word narcissist. Narcissist bothers me because if you listen to
Speaker 3: everybody's a narcissist, No they aren't. Yeah, not everybody's a narcissist,
Speaker 3: and not everybody.
Speaker 2: It was like on Beverly Hills when everybody learned the
Speaker 2: word gaslighting.
Speaker 3: Deflect. I don't like that word either. Stop deflecting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh you're gaslight deflecting your like all.
Speaker 3: Of it on all of these like therapy words triggered. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's not safe here. I could go down the list.
Speaker 3: I just touss everybody out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it works better. Then, Shannon says Tarmra is in
Speaker 2: cahoots with Alexis.
Speaker 3: I love the word cahoots.
Speaker 2: By the way, oh, cahoots is on our keep list.
Speaker 2: Shannon found the text from Okay, this is a smoking gun.
Speaker 2: But before we get to the smoking gun. Yes, when
Speaker 2: Tarmra says, Shannon's probably heading to the bar, and.
Speaker 3: Then she headed to the bar and got a diet
Speaker 3: cocon of Belvidere's soda, I a little part of me
Speaker 3: died inside. I was like, it wasn't a little part
Speaker 3: of me. I was like, it was you know again,
Speaker 3: here we are back at the root of the problem.
Speaker 3: And I know you want to have a drink because
Speaker 3: I do too, and I'd be funny I'd had it
Speaker 3: with these women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but of all the times, wait another thirty minutes
Speaker 2: and doing your home hall room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like, just don't get these cameras what they want.
Speaker 2: No like and you didn't like before at least she'd
Speaker 2: be like a little bit of velvetere, and so this
Speaker 2: time she's like fuck it. She may as well have
Speaker 2: been like, give me a double.
Speaker 3: I mean that I would have done myself, which I have.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, this place, you know, Like, so if.
Speaker 2: You're gonna say you're gonna leave, then leave.
Speaker 3: Leave all the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't going home.
Speaker 3: I'm like to America or to your room. I wanted
Speaker 3: to the bar right like it's the bar. I know,
Speaker 3: why are we in the bar? Are you going to
Speaker 3: America on Jet Blue? Give us a trip?
Speaker 2: Are you going?
Speaker 3: Where are you going?
Speaker 2: And you're only going down one flight of stairs to
Speaker 2: order your velvetere with the camera crew there.
Speaker 3: Just don't do that.
Speaker 2: Just wait it out like the rest of us, and
Speaker 2: go the mini bar at your mini bar and have
Speaker 2: a snickers and a beverage and cry away your sorrows
Speaker 2: in peace.
Speaker 3: In private, what you do is you turn on the
Speaker 3: shower so they can't see you. You go in your bathroom,
Speaker 3: have a mini bar, drink and then just say, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm really tired. You just fall asleep and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it, and so many ways.
Speaker 3: Call us next time.
Speaker 2: Right in, Laser will then plug your phone in.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've die. Yeah, God bless you, Laser Laser.
Speaker 2: The amount of times you've plugged my phone in. I
Speaker 2: am thankful.
Speaker 3: I love him.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, and he's like, you need to go
Speaker 2: to bed. Okay, I go to bed.
Speaker 3: Teddy gets mouthy.
Speaker 2: I get very mouthy. Oh but you don't.
Speaker 3: Oh I get worse. I'm way worse than you. No,
Speaker 3: I just yeah, you're you're just mouthy. I'm rude and mouthy,
Speaker 3: which is a wonderful combination.
Speaker 2: You know, what were the gifts that keep on giving um?
Speaker 2: But then Shannon says, Tamra is in cahoots with Alexis.
Speaker 2: Shannon found the text from Alexis in two thousand. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is brilliant. The way she found it.
Speaker 3: It's incredible because she went to cuss out Alexis and
Speaker 3: tell her she can't come on the trip, and then
Speaker 3: the gift of text is right there.
Speaker 2: But also there, do you have the same phone numbers
Speaker 2: from twenty eighteen?
Speaker 3: I can neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 2: I don't think that you do well.
Speaker 3: Thanks for telling everybody shit.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, especially if you're in.
Speaker 3: Your text migrate.
Speaker 2: They do sometimes. Yet, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Think about getting a new number. Let's say you change
Speaker 3: your number, your text will still be there.
Speaker 2: Because I was. Also, it gave me a little bit
Speaker 2: of anxiety that she doesn't delete any of her texts.
Speaker 2: And how does she still have storage?
Speaker 3: Maybe she has the extra big.
Speaker 2: One, because there is no way in hell I have
Speaker 2: text messages from twenty eighteen. No, unless I took a
Speaker 2: screenshot and saved them.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's six almost seven years. Yes, I
Speaker 3: count on my fingers. I am doing math on TikTok
Speaker 3: and I follow this algebra tude teacher on top. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, No, no, I do it nighttime. And guess
Speaker 3: what I'm doing?
Speaker 2: Pretty good? Great? Did you give yourself well?
Speaker 3: I passed these last couple of problems?
Speaker 2: Did you actually have to input an answer? You're just
Speaker 2: watching it.
Speaker 3: I was watching it, but no, I wasn't guessing I
Speaker 3: was right with her. I was like, oh, yeah, and
Speaker 3: then you need to multiply that, and yeah, I was
Speaker 3: right there with her. I've always wanted to go back
Speaker 3: to math because I feel like as an adult, I
Speaker 3: would understand it better. It's like, the weakest part.
Speaker 2: Of my math is so bad for me.
Speaker 3: But I have visions. One time I asked Tom, like,
Speaker 3: when I was in my thirties or forties, could I
Speaker 3: get a math tutor because I really wanted to go
Speaker 3: back and overcome my math problems from when I was in.
Speaker 2: School, because he wanted to be and wanted to be
Speaker 2: perfect wrapped in a riddle.
Speaker 3: And then math. Yeah, instead of lawsuits, math involved in
Speaker 3: that a lot, and it's not in my favorite Fuck y'all,
Speaker 3: where was this eighty seven whatever million, Tom, you put
Speaker 3: into the firm that was of your own personal money.
Speaker 2: I don't know we had that, but I wish I
Speaker 2: had some.
Speaker 3: Well, aren't I supposed to have some of it?
Speaker 2: Where to go go? My life? But then, Shannon, everything
Speaker 2: you and Tamor have said in the media since the
Speaker 2: divorce are lies.
Speaker 3: So let's story.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Alexis Bellino used to be on the show
Speaker 2: a bajillion years ago, before Shannon was ever on the show.
Speaker 2: Shannon and Alexis both on the television show.
Speaker 3: But not at the same time.
Speaker 2: Then years past, Shannon and Tarma, you know, become part
Speaker 2: of the Trace Amigos, their besties. By Trace Amigas, I
Speaker 2: mean before there was ever the live show, any of those.
Speaker 3: Types of r They were just whooping it up in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were whooping it up, but they went to
Speaker 2: go whoop it up with h.
Speaker 4: Mcde I don't like to say her name, Oh, okay,
Speaker 4: because then it becomes a whole nother situation. They went
Speaker 4: out with her, They went out with her, she was
Speaker 4: doing a live show, and Shannon and Tarma, I don't
Speaker 4: know if I need to say allegedly, but said some
Speaker 4: things about Alexis's husband, okay, and they sued.
Speaker 2: And well that's the issue. At the beginning of this season,
Speaker 2: Alexis said that she had absolutely nothing to do with
Speaker 2: that lawsuit because she was already separated from Jim. I
Speaker 2: know that this is why it gets tricky, because then
Speaker 2: we see this text.
Speaker 3: Message we have engaged an attorney and we'll be suing
Speaker 3: you and Tarma for slander.
Speaker 2: Oh, Alexis, you will be hearing from our attorney tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So whether or not, here's the problem, we may end up.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming we'll probably end up seeing these documents in
Speaker 2: some capacity and maybe if they filed, yeah, they Yes,
Speaker 2: the girls had to pay out a fucking shit time. Really,
Speaker 2: so I guess they allegedly talked about his business, which
Speaker 2: led to listen, we're not talking shit about Jimbalino because
Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of money to be paying
Speaker 2: off shit. I don't even have I don't even know
Speaker 2: what a promisory notice, so I don't have that.
Speaker 3: Kind of time promise to do something.
Speaker 2: But this text message, regardless if Alexis is a part
Speaker 2: of any of these lawsuits, the audience doesn't care. I
Speaker 2: don't care. I'm assuming you don't care because this text
Speaker 2: message is there, and the fact that Shannon had it
Speaker 2: from twenty eighteen is she should be thanking her lucky start.
Speaker 3: Pretty pretty legendary.
Speaker 2: How did we feel about this episode? Where do we
Speaker 2: think we go from here? Oh?
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a full on blowout
Speaker 3: and I can't wait. I love these full on blowout,
Speaker 3: and I think that multiple side side fights are going
Speaker 3: to happen and everybody's going to get in and I'm
Speaker 3: so excited about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think there's going to be some
Speaker 2: fights that were not necessarily expecting yep. And then I
Speaker 2: think there's going to be some reck infiliations.
Speaker 3: Though, only do it if you mean it. I know,
Speaker 3: I don't reconcile just because.
Speaker 2: How many times have you said I'm sorry on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: Well, I've never said I'm sorry when I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2: I was like I didn't fix So No.
Speaker 3: I have said I'm sorry. And when I do say
Speaker 3: i'm sorry, I mean it. Otherwise I won't say it.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about like half apologies? I'd rather wait, Like,
Speaker 2: what about I'm sorry? If you felt no.
Speaker 3: That's a backhand, that's not an apology, backhanded you know? No, No,
Speaker 3: Well i'm sorry. If you felt that.
Speaker 2: Way, that was not my intention, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was your intention, or you wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you really did it by accident, you
Speaker 2: would say that is I I fucked up. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never seen I've never said I'm sorry and
Speaker 3: didn't mean it. I've never squash something just because someone
Speaker 3: told me to or you should do this. I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I don't feel that way.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you.
Speaker 3: No, I don't care what it looks like.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Well, I enjoyed this. I enjoyed these last two episodes.
Speaker 3: I've enjoyed like recapping this show with you. I've had fun.
Speaker 3: I want to see what comes next. I'm excited about
Speaker 3: the next episode. God bless these shows.
Speaker 2: God bless these shows. Well, thanks you guys for tuning in,
Speaker 2: and we'll be back next week.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys,