1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Two Teas and a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge. 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Cheese and 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: a Pod with myself. 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: And Hey, I'm Erica Jane filling in. 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Filling and I've missed too. We weren't together last week. 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: We were not together, and I'm so happy you won 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: and congratulations and I'm just super proud. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. It's I'm really excited. I'm really proud 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: of my horse and Slate won a Class two. 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, just to feel good winners, winners, But 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: you guys work hard. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: We work our tail off. But it definitely was one 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: of those weekends we're like like, once we were dead, yeah, 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: it felt good. But then once we were done, it's 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: when you come back and you're like multiple days of 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: jet lag and you're just you know, it's almost felt 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: like a housewife trip. Oh wow, you know when you 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: were because it's so much like drama at the horse 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: shows too. 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Pressure. It's pressure, and I'm sure there's a lot of 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: people you have it. I can't imagine what it's like 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: to have an animal, like a big animal with you. 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: You know that you have to perform with basically like, 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: that's a lot. 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: And just so many different personality types and they can 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: read how you're feeling and it's but. 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 3: Is it nice to be writing? 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean yeah, I mean I love it. 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: I love it, and it look great doing it. 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I love it. It feels good. How 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: was your week last week? 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: I'm fine. My anxiety's a little nuts, but yeah, I'm okay. 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: You're okay, Yeah, I'm okay. It's fine. It'll all work out. 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it always does. 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: It always does. 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: So to start off, we've got the reunion charts. 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: I looked at I was looking at that. 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So we've got Andy in the middle. Then the 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: two first seats, not a surprise to me, are Shannon 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: and Tamera. Right the next to Shannon is Gina, and 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: then next to Tamra is Emily. And then we go 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: back to the other side. Next to Gina is Jen 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: and then next to Emily is Heather. 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: I want to see that conversation. 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Interesting. 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: And then Katie is final seat, and then Alexis comes 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: in as a friend of for her moment, I'm sure 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: she comes in and just you know, apologizes for all 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: of her very self aware is my guess. 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah about a self aware is the arrangement and the 52 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: response to it. 53 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's which. 54 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about. I didn't get but. 55 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna but the end of I mean, we 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: were recapping two episodes because we weren't together last week. 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: But before we get there, there was a Watch What 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Happens Live where Ryan says he is suing Tamra and 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: served her with a lawsuit as Tamra issues apology after 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: accusing him of stealing from MLB player so allegedly had 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: stolen from the Dodgers player. We know this, and she said, 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: you know what, Ryan, we sell more in a month 63 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: than what you stole from the Dodgers player. Tamra alleged 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: on Watch What Happens Live as she attempted to defend 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: her finances and her businesses. Tamra took to her Instagram 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: stories on Friday night to retract her statements about Ryan. 67 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: In a video which she and she posted with Eddie, 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: she had to say, did you guys watch Watch What 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: Happens Live? It was so good. I will say I 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: was a little bit good. 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: I had to have a guy, I had to have 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: a sip. Yeah, because it's just. 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: No good is in the eye of the beholder. 74 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: Amen. 75 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a little bit tired. I did misspeak 76 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: a little bit on a couple of things. I didn't 77 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: mean to say that Ryan stole the money. I met 78 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: Veena made more money than what was stolen from the 79 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: Dodger player, but I didn't mean Ryan. So I apologize 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: for that, because, like Andy Cohen said, you're innocent until 81 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: proven guilty. But this made me think, what is the 82 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: number that Ryan's friend or partner or whatever. 83 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: It was north of five hundred thousand dollars? If I 84 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: am a little north of five hundred thousand, Because in 85 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: one of these episodes that we're recapping right now, Ryan 86 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: explains to either Emily or someone at Katie's house he 87 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: had a friend who's a professional gambler and has a 88 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: booky business, and it was something he got in a 89 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: little bit of scrape with the law, and it was 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: somewhere north of five hundred thousand dollars. I hate to 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: say this, but I think the interpreter, if I'm right 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: and you can correct me, the interpreter, shohy Atani's interpreter 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: stole millions of dollars. Yeah, that's what I was Now 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: how it ended up into the hands of Ryan allegedly 95 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: because don't be seeing me, yeah, or just get in line, 96 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: you choose whatever. I don't know how much money was 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: allegedly given to Ryan's partner for friend or but there 98 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: was a deposit apparently into one of Ryan's accounts that 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: it cannot be accounted for or something different. Ryan, you 100 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: can correct me if I'm wrong, But that's where this is. 101 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 3: That's what the thing is. And I am so tired 102 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: of legal problems on thease. I'm tired of my own 103 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: fucking legal problems. I just gonna say that for straight out. 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: I'm over the law, and I'm over every housewife lawsuit, 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: and I'm over people not being able to talk about 106 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 3: their legal problems because they can't and they shouldn't and 107 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: they don't. And this is how Shannon gets sucked up 108 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: later on, It's how everybody gets fucked up. You saw 109 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: Lagron Dame herself. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: so fucking tired of housewives and they're fucking legal problems. 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: And I'm sure everybody from Teresa to me to everybody 112 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: who's ever had one on here is fucking over it. 113 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: It's and also, well, nobody wants to hear about something 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: they don't actually get to hear about. 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: It's true, and we can't talk about it. And then 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: you do, and you don't, you fuck it up and 117 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: then you end up in places and everything is so 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: picked up. Part you do yourself no favors. 119 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean well. Then, then Ryan took to the 120 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: comment section, which is always the best place to respond 121 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: of an Instagram post, to confirm he had just served 122 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: Tamora with the lawsuit papers earlier in the day, and 123 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: then Ryan shared more details on his lawsuit against Tamara, 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: revealing that he even hired the same attorney as Jim Bolina. 125 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: Okay, but that's not the same guy that does all 126 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: the DUIs, is it. No, we had that from the 127 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: earlier episode. 128 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: I think it might be a different Shannon and. 129 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: Gina was it had the same duy lawyer. Now yeah, 130 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: now Jim and Ryan have the same civil lawyer filing 131 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 3: these suits. 132 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, guys, here's the thing. At the end of 133 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: the day, are you doing it for money? Are you 134 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: doing it for attention? 135 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: Because well, it costs money to sue people. That's what 136 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: I was thinking, you know, and it doesn't necessarily mean 137 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: you're going to win. And how much money are going 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: to get out of these women? 139 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? How much do you really think you're going to get? 140 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: You just essentially want more press surrounding it, in my opinion. 141 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: Then the next thing is we see Jen has dinner 142 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 2: with Katie and Gretchen after news broke that Ryan assuming 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: Tamra to give you backstory, Gretchen and Tamra had a 144 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: major there. They definitely do not speak. There's no communication, okay, 145 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: Jen writes Saturday dinner with friends, and then Gretchen responds, 146 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, my cheeks hurt from laughing with you girls, 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 2: love you too, Thanks for inviting us to dinner. 148 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: Who's us? 149 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's her Enslade. 150 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: They're still together? 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did not know. Oh yeah, they're still together. 152 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: Once in an airport, he came up to me and 153 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: introduced himself. He was nice years ago. 154 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: The one time I met him, he was nice, But 155 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: I had to also watch season one, two three of 156 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: Orange County and then you no longer think he's nice. Okay, Yeah, 157 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: so you kind of go through that, yep. I you 158 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: do always wonder when somebody that's not It's one thing 159 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: if somebody was a housewife and they're not anymore, and 160 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: they've maintained friendships within the group, but when they ran 161 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: like us, like us, But when somebody from that was 162 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: never friends comes in. 163 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: It looks a certain way. 164 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: It looks a certain way. You're trying to prove a 165 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: message a certain way, then. 166 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: Anything could be read into that. 167 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, are you trying to maybe if I were 168 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: to guess my gush and maybe maybe maybe I'm incorrect. 169 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: Is I don't imagine we're going to see Alexis next season? 170 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, what for because you've played 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: all these cards right now? So is there something else 172 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 3: to give? I don't think that. Well, we'll see. I mean, 173 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: what do I know? 174 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: But I wonder if Gretchen's trying to itch her way 175 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: back in. 176 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: Uh, who knows? You know, that's it's a it's a 177 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: it's a thing. 178 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: It's a thing. Well, then Tamra says there's an Instagram 179 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: account that exposed Ryan An Allegedly Ryan's business partner is 180 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: using Ryan's address is home address. I've got to say this. 181 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: No one I know better not be using mine. 182 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't use my address for anything. Don't use my address, 183 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: don't use my Postmates, don't use my Uber account. 184 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: I do maybe borrow someone's Netflix. 185 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I share my sister's Netflix. I'm years into it. 186 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well. I think that my friends and I 187 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: we you get the Disney Plus and I can't you 188 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: get that one? 189 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: And then you know, But then when you're in a 190 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: pinch and you're like in a hotel and you need 191 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: Netflix to work, and all of a sudden, I'm like, 192 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: stop calling my sister and she's like, why are you 193 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: stalking me? Because I need help because I forgot the passwords. 194 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm watching on Netflix now is 195 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: Mister McMahon. It's the documentary about Vince Mcmahonslie you want 196 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: to talk about shady just the whole business. And I 197 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: am a massive wrestling fan, have been since I was three. 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: I'm from Atlantis, so it's like Ted Turner head, you know, 199 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: like wrestling and this little station called CNN that fifteen 200 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: minute loops seriously wasn't even a big deal anyway. This 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: doc is really interesting just to see how the business 202 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: of wrestling and how ferocious Vince McMahon is. 203 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: Is it on Netflix? Okay, that's gonna. 204 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're into it, you have to. It 205 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: has to be your thing. 206 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: But it's definitely mine, It definitely will be mine. Then 207 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: Ryan says Tamra is talking about his friend Matt, who 208 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: has been going through something since September, and then Emily 209 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: says she also heard the rumors about the FBI, and 210 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: Emily says Ryan's career is going to Vegas. My favorite 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: is when Emily goes into like lawyers. 212 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: I love her. I was going to say, Emily, I 213 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: love you as a lawyer, and I love it further 214 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: on down as we talk about the Innocence Project. Yeah, 215 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: and no, it's I like it when she puts her 216 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: lawyer hat on because all the bullshit stops with her. 217 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like that. 218 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: She asks these questions in a very non confrontational way, 219 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: which is really good on her behalf. And she she 220 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: asks questions that are just like, so tell me. 221 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: It looks like, you know, and it's the questions we 222 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: all want to know. 223 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: The answers to she's serving or not just right, Yeah, 224 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 3: she's handling it. 225 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Then Heather, Shannon, and Katie goes shopping. Emily goes to 226 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: Gina's house, Katie and Emily explain what a shit show 227 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: the couple's dinner was. 228 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh wait, you forgot about the hug at the end. 229 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: Hold on, remind me of the hug. 230 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: They hugged at the end, Eddie and am Ryan they 231 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: hugged at the end of the dinner. 232 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah they did. 233 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: But see, bros forgive and forget a lot faster than 234 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: bitches do. 235 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: But do you think he actually was forgiving and forgetting her? 236 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: I think he was just, you know what, I think 237 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: it was a lot and I think it was just 238 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: easier to do that, and you know, it is what 239 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: it is. 240 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean moment like that, like, Okay, 241 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: by the end, Eddie was like, it's freezing at this dinner. 242 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: If I have to hug this guy to get out 243 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: of here, I'm already wearing a blanket. 244 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 3: Camera's outside, Cara's outside. I know I'm going to get 245 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: it from her when I get in here, so this 246 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: car could. 247 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: Get me the f out of here. Yeah, then they 248 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: go shopping. Heather says there's a lot of history between 249 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: them and maybe they shouldn't be friends. Tamer told Shannon 250 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: she couldn't attend her birthday party after Katie's and then 251 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: Gina is nervous about seeing Heather after taking Emily aside. 252 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: Heather doesn't understand what she did to make Emily feel 253 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: insecure at this point, just say I fucked up a little. Yeah, 254 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: I didn't take your feelings into consideration or. 255 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: It completely went past me. I'm so very sorry. I 256 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: really I didn't mean anything about it. I think the 257 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: easiest way to squash this with for Heather to just 258 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: listen to Emily and just say, you know what, I 259 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: really didn't. Emily just needs to feel hurt. That's what 260 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: you're saying. However you do it. 261 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Then Emily does work for the Innocent Center, what 262 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: helps wrongfully convicted people get out of prison. She meets 263 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: with Anthony to get a new suit. Anthony is re 264 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: entering society after spending eighteen years behind bars. 265 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: A story at fifteen years old. So that story was heartbreaking. 266 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: I know when I realized he was a teenager when 267 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: that happened. 268 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: And his brother thought that he was going to get 269 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: out his stepbrother or half brother. Yeah, and he was 270 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: the one that did the crime and just thought that, Okay, 271 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: well I'll let my brother Anthony, and because he'll get out, 272 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: and then when Anthony said, I just thought my mom 273 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: was going to make it. 274 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: Okay, it was heartbreaking. It was. 275 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: And good for Emily, Good for you, Yeah, good for you. 276 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: I wish they'd show a little bit more of this, like. 277 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: The well, this is the kind of important shit. Yeah, 278 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: like to see as opposed to fighting over a tea party. 279 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Katie and her family go out for dinner. 280 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: Katie wishes she had been introduced to her Korean culture 281 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: when she was younger. For Katie's fortieth birthday, they're going 282 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: to Korea to meet her birth mother. 283 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: This is very heavy. 284 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot. 285 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot, Katie. I wish you all 286 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: the best. That's a lot. 287 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: Katie has a very cute family and her children our door, 288 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: like you see all that. 289 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: It's a really nice family. Her daughter's adorable son. Yeah, 290 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's cute. 291 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: But I think there is a lot of Katie that 292 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: we don't really know. Still at this point, I'm going 293 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: to say something. 294 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: It may sound wrong. There's a lot of Katie Katie 295 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: doesn't know. 296 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, you know, there is. Yeah. Then 297 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: we get Shannon hosting her sixtieth birthday at the tea house. 298 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: Which is cute, A place that cute. 299 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love when people say cute. Do 300 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: you like when people say you're cute? 301 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, cute, You're so cute, that's cute. You know that 302 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: the ultimate shade is that that's cute for you. 303 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cute for you. That's so good for you. 304 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty. 305 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we get into Emily getting emotional about how 306 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: the drift different dress sizes affected her. The oversized jacket 307 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: I was triggering for her. I think at this point 308 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: Heather's probably just shut down from the converse, like, do 309 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: you see did you see a shift there? 310 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: I saw hither wanting to go in and solve it, 311 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: solve the problem so that she could get down to 312 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: the business of the birthday party. That's what I took 313 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: away from it, and I I think, look, Heather gets 314 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: a bad rap for not feeling or whatever, and I 315 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: kind of get the same thing. It's not that she 316 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: doesn't feel. I think that she just shows her emotions differently. 317 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: This year, all Emily really wanted was just to be heard, 318 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: and sometimes you know, she doesn't come off the way 319 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: that others would want her to. 320 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: But also I'm not saying that you are this way. 321 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: I am this way. 322 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes I am both. I've noticed that sometimes and we 323 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: all do this. It's human nature. Is when we've made 324 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: a mistake and you're on television making that mistake, we 325 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: want to keep it moving right along. 326 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: I think everybody does, all of us do, no matter 327 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: what what mistake you make. It's like, can we solve 328 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: this so weekend, Yeah, let's get some potato. 329 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then Tamra apologize to Gin and Jen says they 330 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: can talk about this later. 331 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: Good idea. 332 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: Good. I mean, I feel like we're gonna be talking 333 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: about it a lot. 334 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: Oh, London is just about to pop up. 335 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 336 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: I feel like ape, the trip and the cold, rainy 337 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: London is just the best place to really solve our problems. 338 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Shannon, you know, welcomes the women by gifting 339 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: them a tiny London phone booth, telling them they're going 340 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: to the trip to London. And then but the tea 341 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: party's interrupted by a flower delivery. 342 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I knew what this was. This has been 343 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: done before. 344 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: This has been done before. Its nothing, it's nothing interesting. 345 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: And also I thought that is a really expensive olive 346 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: branch just to be a dick, like if you wanted 347 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: to just be funny, but I have it looked like 348 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: the Charlie Brown Christmas tree olive branch. You didn't need 349 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: to go with. 350 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: A huge But maybe that was her way of you really. 351 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: Think that was her expressing on all of branch. 352 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't, I think because I think it, 353 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: do you want to know my honesty? I think it 354 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: was for TV. 355 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you thought it was going to be like a moment. 356 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: For in what place does Alexis think that a number 357 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: one Shannon wants a okay of flowers from her on 358 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: her birthday and number two that she would be invited 359 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: on Shannon's trip. In no universe can that possibly be. 360 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: It would be impossible to think that that was happening. 361 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you would have to suspend a lot of 362 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: well about all reality to think that any of this 363 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: Shannon wants. She doesn't want you there, and she doesn't 364 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: want your flowers, and she doesn't want you to say 365 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: happy birthday, and she also so you can't cry when 366 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: it doesn't go your. 367 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Life, You can't. 368 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: I was really kind of shocked at that. I know 369 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: we're jumping ahead, but I really was, like, you're a. 370 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: Girl like you just are upset that you're not going 371 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: to be on camera more. 372 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: It feels that way. It just feels like you're upset 373 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: that you're not on the trip and you can't do 374 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you want to do. But I also, 375 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: but you've done a lot, Alexis. I mean truly, the 376 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: you know, you were most you know, she really gave 377 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: a lot. 378 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she she gave a lot. But, as 379 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: Shannon says, it's nine weeks too late and she has 380 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: no interest in being friends with her. Shannon says her 381 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: coach told her to do this, which I'm assuming she means. 382 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: John, assuming she did. Yeah, she said that, Yeah, and 383 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: we've heard that multiple times. 384 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: Then Tamer tells Shannon that she butt dialed her the 385 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: day the article came out. 386 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they left a little bit more in. 387 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: I know you, oh got got a little bit more. 388 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: I was like, oh delicious, look at that. And then 389 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: Shannon tells the lady she created a text to Alexis. 390 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: It says, Hello, Alexis, it's Shannon Badore. I'm hosting a 391 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: trip to Europe with my friends and I just wanted 392 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: to make it clear you're not invited. Okay, do you 393 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: think you need to let people know when they're not invited. 394 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 3: No, I don't, but in this particular crafted circumstance, I 395 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: guess it's good to do. 396 00:18:59,400 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: So. Yeah. 397 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: I again, I don't know. Common sense would tell me Alexis, 398 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: you're not coming on this trip? 399 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then but I don't know. 400 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: The text just kind of drives the point home. 401 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. But also I love when they all write to 402 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: each other in full names. 403 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, what is that? 404 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, I'm pretty sure she would have known that 405 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 2: it was you, Shannon and her. 406 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder what she has Shannon stored in as 407 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: her phone. 408 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: Because she always says Shannon, but door, Well there's the door, Shannon, door. Yeah, 409 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: that was her one line, she got it, one line. 410 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: Do you think Shannon should have softened the text before 411 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: sending no, I feel like translation, Alexis knew this was 412 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: the big trip event, Alexis knew she was probably fucked 413 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: out of the trip, and Alexis thought sending a literal 414 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: olive branch would be her coach seat to London. 415 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: Did you just say coach? 416 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 417 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: I don't think she was gonna get were flying yet Blue? 418 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: I didn't know Jet Blue. 419 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know they had laid down pads. 420 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: I didn't either. 421 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: Me. 422 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: I was kind of like, oh, Jeff Blue does that. 423 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, then I started thinking I should trap. I'm gonna 424 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: go on Trap Blue next time. 425 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: You know what, me too, Jeff Blue. If you hear 426 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: us like, let us know, let us for us to go. 427 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 3: We'd like to go somewhere. We didn't know you had 428 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: such fabulous planes. 429 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: We had no idea that you could lay down and 430 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: get some. 431 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 3: Pin now that I do know. 432 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: We also didn't know you could make speakers on the 433 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: you could act as yeah. 434 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: I did not also do. I was shocked that Heather 435 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: got on the mic and was telling everybody it was 436 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: Shannon's birthday and that she was single. Yes, I would 437 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: like to get on the mic Jet Blue and talk 438 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: about my friend Teddy. 439 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: Listen, if we can get a trip somewhere Jet Blue. 440 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: Erica will get on and sing I will, she will, 441 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: I will do? 442 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: I will? Yeah, where are we going? 443 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: We're open to go anywhere that's expensive. 444 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: Yes. 445 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: I was. 446 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: Like, I don't need this, don't say the word anywhere, 447 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: and then we end up in like. 448 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need to be zipping off to 449 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: Vegas on Jet Blow I need No, I want something 450 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: for it. I want something. 451 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: I want the London treatment, Yeah, I. 452 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: Mean I want next level. But then Jen and Katie 453 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: go over to Alexis's house. My favorite part about this 454 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: is that John Janson is upstairs. 455 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: I noticed that in the end. We found out at 456 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: the end he was upstairs, probably listening. 457 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: In for sure, listening in. Alexis reads the text from 458 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: Shannon and says, she's fucking done. Alexis says, if Shannon 459 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: hadn't borrowed the money and paide on back, they wouldn't 460 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: be in this situation. 461 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: But see the word we, Yeah, why does she have. 462 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: To ride so hard? Well for every guy? 463 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: The thing John's in that with Shannon, you're you, Alexis. 464 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: I know you love him, and you guys are engaged. 465 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: You're choosing to put yourself in there. I remember when 466 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: Tom I was Tom's third wife and his second wife. 467 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: They were divorced. Tom and I got married, and their 468 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: property fight meaning the money, yeah, went on throughout like 469 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: the first couple of years of our marriage. I chose 470 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: I could not get involved. Does that make sense? Like 471 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: I can't get involved in that? That was his problem 472 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: before me, and I know that you guys know each other, 473 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: Shannon and Alexis and as a friend group, but you 474 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: do yourself no favors by inserting yourself into something that 475 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: John and Shannon had going on. I don't know, that's 476 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: just my opinion through it. 477 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: So every story. Yeah, and also I mean. 478 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: You probably would got have gone on the trip had 479 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: you been just death inch nicer. Yeah, just a touch, 480 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 3: just to swear to God, you would have been on 481 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: the trip if you'd just been an inch nicer. 482 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't have to throw it in her 483 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: face every truth. 484 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: Every time, everything, every time, It's okay once or twice. 485 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: But because then I got real excited because John joined 486 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: Alexis and her confessional. Yeah, I saw that he never 487 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: wanted to be He didn't ever want the spotlight though Erica. 488 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: He wanted to stay out of it. 489 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: Things changed hit well. 490 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: John says that he didn't want to take legal action, 491 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: but he was days away from crossing the statute of 492 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: limitations on being able to do anything legally. John says, 493 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: Shannon one hundred percent knew these were loans, and they 494 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: have proof. 495 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: Let's see the proof already then, But I think that 496 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: jumping ahead, he has a promissory note. 497 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: But have we seen the promisory note? 498 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: Well, we as an audience have not. But has anyone 499 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: else laid eyes on it? 500 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: I do not know. But then Alexis says she won't 501 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: be around this group anymore, that she's done, and throws 502 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: Katie and Jen out of her house. Well, clearly you're 503 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: around the. 504 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: Because so so you didn't hold up to your word. 505 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: You will be around and I guarantee you if they 506 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: ask you back next year, you'll go. And so please 507 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: tell me, let's just cut this shit. 508 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's cut the bs. But like Alexis is a 509 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: little bit like a hamster when she's like spinning on 510 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: the wheel, going kind of out of cast. Yeah, and 511 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: I get that the word victim has thrown a lot 512 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: in this group, but at this point, I'm like, Alexis, 513 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: you're acting like the victim. 514 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't act hurt. I just when she throws 515 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 3: them out of the house, which was kind of like, Okay, 516 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 3: it was kind of cute, But you can't really think 517 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: that you're going to go on this trip right and 518 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: then go upstairs and cry and say fuck them. They 519 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: don't have the power to bring you on this trip. 520 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: You had the power to take yourself on this trip. 521 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: Had you just been a little bit nicer. 522 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: Had you just maybe not gotten so involved and had 523 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: to shove it down her throat. If it's an authentic 524 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: relationship that you're having with John, just let it be that. 525 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: Let it be that, let him fight. You can come in, 526 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: but it can't be your whole purpose. 527 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 2: And if John is doing so well financially, just give 528 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: her the freaking money. Sorry, we'll take a little break 529 00:24:47,720 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: and we'll come back and talk about episode fourteen. We 530 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: are back to talk about episode fourteen. This first scene 531 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: I think is important because. 532 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: It reminded me that I need to get my memory. 533 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: I know I'm due for mine too. Should we go 534 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: together and then not ask each other how it went? 535 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: Yes, and then we'll both get very upset because we're 536 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: both very emotional. 537 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: I just. 538 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: Well, they all I have dense breash tissue. 539 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if I have done. I've gotten a mammogram, 540 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: but they didn't say that. 541 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: So and they probably then you probably don't. 542 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: But Alexis, She says that Shannon lets him know that 543 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: Alexis responded to the uninvited text with a text that 544 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: says that Shannon could scrounge up the funds to pay 545 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: for her future husband his seventy five thousand. 546 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just call it what it is. It's everyone's trip. 547 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: One person gets to be the lead. That's it, you know. 548 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we go on and we continue on the mammograms. 549 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: We realize that everybody's good except for Heather. They don't 550 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: check on Heather. 551 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I mean, I get it. Everybody's concerned about 552 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 3: you know, she's cheering. We hear her go yay because 553 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 3: oh Jen had a lump, but it turned out to 554 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: be just like scar tissue or something. So I mean 555 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: I could see that, like, you know, yeah, then loving 556 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: this whole situation, you go, oh. 557 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks, Oh get it. Then the women pack for London, 558 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: Sophie Shannon's daughters. 559 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: Another packing scene. 560 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: I love those me too, you know what those are 561 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: also things that feel so natural. Well, I just I. 562 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: Just I just do it and it is what it is. 563 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: But I have to be honest, I don't actually need 564 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: to see people packing to know they're going on a trip. 565 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: I just believe that, like when you go on a trip, 566 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: you packed, when you show up with luggage. 567 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I kind of there's some things that I'm like, 568 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: but people know that we're just doing it. Yeah, the 569 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 3: packing thing is is cute, but at the same time 570 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: can feel forced on some. 571 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: Yeah then especially when somebody is packing alone and then 572 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: they have to like I forget what I was just watching, 573 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: Like I. 574 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: Had to pack alone and then I had to unpack 575 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 3: the pack. 576 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 577 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: It was interesting because I was like, okay, packing and 578 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: then I was like, that's not it. No unpacked and. 579 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're like it has to actually match what 580 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: I am, right, I'm not. Marge did a whole packing 581 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: scene where she talked to her dog like I was. 582 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 3: Like, I used to do that to because it was 583 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: just us at the house. I'd be like, hey, Tiaga, 584 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: what do you think of this? By the way, I 585 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: love Emily's dog and I keep saying that, and I 586 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: love it that we get to see everybody's dog. Gina 587 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: has two. 588 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're cuteaball and something. 589 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: Or something else Meet Ball. 590 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: Jen says Tama will never change her behavior, and Ryan 591 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: calls Tamra tacky. I'm like Ryan paints flatter boy Han 592 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: calling somebody else. 593 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: Tacking between them is just funny to me. I know 594 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 3: it's not right, I'm just laughing, but like, why tack. 595 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's like two girls, like two teenage girls. 596 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hilarious. Tamra is worried their friendship will be 597 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: affected by what happened, but she didn't lie about anything. Well, 598 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: i'm gonna say it's affected. 599 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah to say, I'm sure you've noticed it's affected. 600 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure if you haven't noticed, you're gonna notice once 601 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: you get on the trip, it's affected. It's affecting, it's affecting. Uh. 602 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: Then the ladies arrive in London. Shannon introduces herself at the. 603 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Hotel Jet Blue, give us a trip. 604 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: Jet Blue. We're still here. 605 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: We're still here Jet Blue. 606 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: The Duchess of Corona del Mar and the girls are 607 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: her ladies and waiting. 608 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: And the people at the hotel it did not fall. 609 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: Did you see their faces? 610 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: They were like, oh. 611 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: We already had some duchess from America and it didn't 612 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: work out. Yeah, so we're not really into y'all. Okay, 613 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: they're not into us. 614 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: They're like, oh no, Well, then Shannon gives everyone Birberry scarves. 615 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: Those are cute. 616 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: I like that. That was a nice welcome gift. Then 617 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: we had to hear about how did you get the money? 618 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, between the money with the glam, like, how do 619 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: you have the money for Jenda glam? How do you 620 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: have this? Also? Then Gina's like, I've just been stalking 621 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: my glam on how they do it. So I'm gonna 622 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: glam myself. It's just it's not for glaming ourselves. Isn't 623 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: for everyone. 624 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: I can like we did in France, but I you know, 625 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 626 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: I can, I don't. I don't like to. 627 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: I don't like to. 628 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: Then they talk about Tamer and Heather discussed the clip 629 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: of Shannon on Jeff Lewis, basically admitting she did alone 630 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: and also telling Jeff she had never thought about whether 631 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: John had heard the crash or not. We have to 632 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: remember Jeff and Shannon are friends, right, very close friends. 633 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: So okay, so if you and I were going to 634 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: do something to discuss something that's not great about the 635 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: other one, and we were going to do it on 636 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: a live radio show, we probably would discuss it a 637 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: little prior. 638 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: So you're what you're saying is you don't think that 639 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: he discussed it with her? Do you think he kind 640 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: of threw her under the bus? Or she was just no. 641 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: She did discuss it with her. I think they went 642 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: in with a game plan and she was trying to 643 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: show that she's you know, it is what it is like. 644 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: I just don't think, especially knowing how much Jeff and I. 645 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'll see you next week. Jeff, where are 646 00:30:52,080 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: you going to see him on a radio show? 647 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: Why are you doing this? 648 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: You know, Erica, there's not much I don't say yes 649 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: to these days. 650 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: You mean there's not much you don't say no to? 651 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's not much. Yeah whatever, you know what 652 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: I mean. I'll be there. I'll be there. You guys 653 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: send a car, I'll be there. Do I get a 654 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: free oatmeal down the stairs below a serious XM I'm in. 655 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: Son of a Bitch. 656 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: I you got me with a latte? 657 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow? 658 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know it doesn't take much. 659 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: You guys don't like each other. 660 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: Me and Jeff. Yeah, I like Jeff. He just shit 661 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: talks my business every time he gets a chance. But 662 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: the last time I was on this is the crazy part. 663 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: He shit talked my business while I was on. But 664 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: then I got like seventy four sign ups from it. 665 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get more so, so gome back on We're 666 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: all in Okay, So I was like, you know what 667 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: they say, Hey, I hate Jeff Lewis, therefore I'm signing 668 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: up for you must be. 669 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: I was like, get it, okay. But then Heather tells 670 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: Tamra what Shannon told her in Sonoma, how John didn't 671 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: call her after the accident, and Tarama says, Shannon is 672 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: using emotional manipulation on Heather to play the victim. 673 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: So let's get this timeline straight. Yeah, because maybe I 674 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: didn't catch it all. Shannon runs into the house, bust 675 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: her face open, and then she calls John, but he 676 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: doesn't come out, like what am I missing here? 677 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay? So she was at John's house. 678 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: Okay, at John's. 679 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: House, so was his I believe, And if I'm incorrect 680 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: on any of this information, I'm going off like what 681 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: I heard months ago on social media, Shannon is there. 682 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: There's an argument between Shannon and John and potentially John's daughter. 683 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: She's an adult daughter, She's an adult daughter. 684 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: Some kind of argument. Shannon gets in the car, peels off, 685 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: gets in the accident, and then that's kind of all 686 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: we know. We see the video of that. 687 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: Right, and so when it comes to this picture or 688 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: calling him, Tell me what is this I'm missing here. 689 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: I think what she's trying to say is she sent 690 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: that picture to John. 691 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: Right, and we we thought we saw it in the 692 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: photo room, not in the fucking texts. 693 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: But also we did see that John took her to 694 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: the hospital. Yeah, so I don't know if that was 695 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: the next day, but like we saw a couple days 696 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: later John, Shannon's walking into her house with a sling 697 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 2: on her arm and John is walking with her. I 698 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: also think when two people are intoxicated and having an argument, 699 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: maybe it's not the best time to be spending more 700 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: time together, especially after hitting a house, hitting a house 701 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: or busting your face open. Like you, that obviously happened 702 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: because you two were together and having an argument. I 703 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: don't think that how and in a happy time? 704 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: No, I don't think they were having a good time. 705 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think. Do you think that Jeff 706 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: Lewis clips are even that damning? 707 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do you do? Because what I really thought, 708 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 3: unlike you, I thought, oh, her stream of she feels 709 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: comfortable with Jeff. I knew they were friends. In her 710 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: stream of consciousness came out, Oh that's what I thought, Well, 711 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: you're probably right on that. 712 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it. 713 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 3: But or maybe that's the story that she's decided. I 714 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know that's the truth. I just 715 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: don't know enough about it, know what I do know, 716 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm conflicted. I know that I don't I know that 717 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm conflicted about what's happening here. 718 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'm conflicted by everybody's terrible accents. 719 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to see anymore. 720 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: It's cute once it's cute, but also like when the 721 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: producer has to step in and they show the producer 722 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: being like, all right, that's enough for that. Yeah, it 723 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: means no more British accent. 724 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but let's call Durrey if we want the British. 725 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 3: It's okay, and she's right over here. I can get 726 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: her right over here. 727 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: We'll get on it, Dre, Can you give us an 728 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: accent real quick? 729 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 3: I love so cute. 730 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: Well, then they decided to go on this boat, which 731 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: I didn't really understand. They were freezing to death. 732 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: Hold on the Thames right spelled thhas the Thames, the 733 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: Thames whatever. That thing is dirty and I think everybody 734 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 3: in London will agree it is. Why the fuck are 735 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: we getting on a speed boat. 736 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: In the cold weather and raincoats. 737 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: Raincoats wet looks like it's raining in the Thames. 738 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: No. Also, I don't know. I don't necessarily like because 739 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 2: maybe I'm unlike you, who I don't know a ton 740 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: about the world, like you know, well, you don't, Erica, 741 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: You're like an encyclopedia. Like we could say anything and 742 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: you'll be like, oh, in nineteen seventy two or eighteen 743 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: forty six, this happened, Like I have no idea. So 744 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: when they when a tour. 745 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 3: Guide makes jokes, they don't get them. 746 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 2: Well, I'm neither what I and you know what? 747 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 3: You don't have the Eiffel Tower in London? 748 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: That one, but the other one? 749 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 3: Which was the other one? Catch it? Which one I don't? 750 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: I couldn't learn it, but I remember thinking, is that right? 751 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: Which one is it? 752 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 2: They made another joke something about a bridge or something 753 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: or else. 754 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: Tamar knew it was in Have a sue And I 755 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 3: want to know, why is the real London bridge in 756 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: Have a Suite? Is that real? And how did it 757 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: end up there? And why? Now I gotta know. 758 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, see That's what I'm saying. Would you have would 759 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: you have felt upset if it was your birthday trip 760 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: and you had to sit on the cold boat by yourself. 761 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've done worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah I would. 762 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to say. The fun part about being 763 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: on one of those boats is you have a partner 764 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 3: and you're laughing and your yeah, and your hair isn't 765 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: blowing off, which my hair has blown off, So I'm 766 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 3: not like shading her hair. It's just you know, her 767 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 3: tracks are slipping, yeah. 768 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: Her tracks, And and that also shows when you don't 769 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: have glam and you're doing your own hair, the tracks 770 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: are going to show sometimes. 771 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: No, I've seen some glam on my show where tracks 772 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: show yeah. 773 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 774 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: And I will keep that to myself because I once 775 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: was like, I I. 776 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: Know, you know, I remember. Then Katie tries to open 777 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: up and say that she's going to meet her birth mother. 778 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: She gets emotional explaining her birth mother was fifteen when. 779 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: Market in a factory. 780 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 2: I know, I feel. 781 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 3: Like, I feel like this is I hope these women 782 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 3: appreciate how heavy this is for Katie. That's the only 783 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 3: word I can come up with, because that's a lot. 784 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 3: You know, you're to meet your mother on your fortieth birthday. 785 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 2: And she has the concern that, like maybe her mother's 786 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: not going to meet her. 787 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: It's a valid concern. You don't know, nothing is for sure. 788 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she says, like, why I hope the 789 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: plan is I hope we. 790 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 3: Well that's probably the best you can say. I mean, 791 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: I feel for Katie in this moment, and I hope. 792 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: I certainly was like, wow, that's a lot, you know that. 793 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: I hope. I want Katie. I want it to go 794 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: beautifully for you. I really do, because you can tell 795 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 3: there's that need there and I want I want that 796 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 3: for her. I want her to have a beautiful, happy 797 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 3: ending on that. I really do. 798 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: Then we get back into the mammogram results and Heather 799 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 2: gets emotional explaining to the women. The women apologize at 800 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: this point when Tam was the first one to ask, 801 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: I was like, get it, Tam, and did Heather tell 802 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 2: you that? Ladies? 803 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: Literally? So, how is it? Mammorgam? People want to talk 804 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 3: about that? 805 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: Listen. I come. I was like, that was brilliant. 806 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: But Tam was good hard for the money. 807 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 2: She handled it nicely. She was like here you go ahead, Yeah, 808 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw you this softball. 809 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: You take it from here, right, you take it from here. 810 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 2: Swing at it with Ryan's alleged bookie, Let's go. 811 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 3: Teddy. That was actually kind of cute. 812 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: But then Emily asked Shannon how her lawsuit's going that 813 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 2: this is the part I can't remember. Which of the 814 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 2: women goes, she doesn't want to talk about that, and 815 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: then another one of the women women go, oh, no, 816 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: she loves to talk about it, right, Shannon, should we. 817 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: Talk said that shady bitch. That's brilliant thought, Yes, she 818 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 3: wants to talk about that. 819 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 2: She loves to talk about it. And then Shon's like, 820 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: don't want to talk about Okay, let's talk about it. 821 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: Tamera questions why should go on Jeff Lewis to talk 822 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 2: about it for an hour? Shannon says she has the 823 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: right to defend herself and that John sent her a 824 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: promisory note. Everybody is surprised by that. 825 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: This is what I'm talking about. When did he send 826 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 3: you this promisory note? So you're see, you're going on 827 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis saying one thing, but then right here you're 828 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 3: saying he's sent a promisory note. This is why. 829 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: But I have a question because I've never been sent 830 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: a promisory I. 831 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 3: Thought you're I've never been out what. 832 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't think you live in America? Sorry not to brag, 833 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 2: but I haven't you Okay, girl, you know what. 834 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 3: I'm a drama up later a legal zoom dot com 835 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: getting on my nerves. I want compensation bugging me right? 836 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: But on a promissory note? Is there like? Is that 837 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: where you even have like a notary? 838 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: Like? 839 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: Is that a real depends? I think and Emily would 840 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: be a borrow to tell you this. Promisory notes are 841 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 3: basically I promise you to pay this back now how long? 842 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what do they have? 843 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: How? 844 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: I think they stick up in core? I know somebody 845 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: who because text don't write, yes they do. Don't you 846 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 3: be testing anything like that? 847 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 2: A text can be used in court. 848 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 3: Any email, any text messages, huh, you'll be. You shouldn't 849 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 3: be using the phone writing shit down if that's what 850 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 3: you're worried about. 851 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: No, I'm not worried. I'm now I'm worried about every text. 852 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: All of you, the entire world should be worried because 853 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 3: you're all digitizing everything. Yeah, and even something as simple 854 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: as like I hate you or something you know that 855 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: you could read one way or another. It's like, oh, no, 856 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 3: you said this, Well yeah I can okay, Yeah, No, 857 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 3: text are Yeah, I didn't realize that. Yeah, your phone 858 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 3: calls are private. 859 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: Phone calls are private, but texts or not. 860 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 3: Text and emails are not interesting. 861 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: I knew emails weren't, but I thought text were. 862 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 3: But no, the same thing. 863 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 2: Heather brings up what happened in Sonoma and Shannon gets emotional, 864 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: saying she will never know if John heard her in 865 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: the accident or not. Heather says she feels used by Shannon. 866 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: Shannon says, this is a reality show that has trickled 867 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 2: into her life. Let's talk about this a little bit. 868 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 3: Who you talking to? Yeah, like, yes, what would you 869 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,479 Speaker 3: like to say? 870 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 2: No, I would like to say that. And then all 871 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: the women are like, well, this is my real life. 872 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 2: Well this is my Like I was surprised they used 873 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: that line. 874 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 3: I was too, Well, this is a reality show that 875 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 3: is trickled into my real life. 876 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 2: Like if we're all supposed to but. 877 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: Some don't and you know that, Yeah, I know what 878 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: you're about to say, and some people don't. 879 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, some people don't. 880 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. In my case, it was unavoidable, 881 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: like there was no way if I even wanted to 882 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 3: not talk about these things, they were going to be 883 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 3: talked about because they were everywhere. Yeah, and they the 884 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 3: reality component being on a reality show definitely hurts both ways. 885 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: Do you think if it never went public in the 886 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: press and those types of things, like if it was 887 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: a different time or different whatever, that you would have 888 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 2: ever talked about it. 889 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 3: I mean you would have to talk about it because 890 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 3: it would have been a bad legal story. Yeah, but yes, 891 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 3: you would talk about it if I wasn't a public person. 892 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it would come up at dinner 893 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 3: or wherever else. But when you're a public person and 894 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 3: then these things happen and your own reality show, it's 895 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 3: like gasoline and matches. Yeah. So yes, I mean, if 896 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: you're an actor and you have legal problems, Okay, you're 897 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 3: an actor that has legal problems, you don't. No one's 898 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: going to ask you. I mean I'm sure they do. Ye, 899 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 3: You're not going to be forced to talk about it 900 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 3: like we are on these shows. 901 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 902 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: And then because then you're avoiding your real life, right, 903 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: which is just what I'm I say forced. When I 904 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: say forced, I mean you're avoiding the real things that 905 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: are happening. 906 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: In your life, which nobody really wants to see people 907 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 2: which part nobody wants to see you fully of not you, 908 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 2: But no, I'm saying avoiding. No, people want to hear 909 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: at least how you're feeling, like, even if you can't 910 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 2: discuss something, people want to feel like understand the emotion. Yeah, 911 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 2: and they want to connect. 912 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 3: I think. But the one thing I will say is 913 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 3: the continuous interrogation of these women and myself included in 914 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 3: legal fights when you know you can't be talking about it, 915 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 3: but you guys still ask questions anyway, not just like hey, 916 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 3: how's it going, but like so I heard this, and 917 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 3: so I heard that, Because when you're in legal battles, 918 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 3: you're damned if you do, when you're damned if you don't. 919 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 3: You're always tell you to shut your mouth. 920 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 2: But I think also when you're on a reality show, 921 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 2: sometimes you ask questions knowing you're not going to get 922 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: the answer and that people can't give it. But at 923 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 2: least then you're giving the show. Well yes, and you're 924 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: a sound bites. You're putting it out there. 925 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 3: You're putting it out there, but you're also planting seeds 926 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 3: of doubt and fill in the blanks in the audience 927 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 3: because the facts aren't there yet, so then everybody can 928 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 3: weigh in and make your story seem one way or 929 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 3: the other. And well, not that fair matters in life, right, 930 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 3: but it's not fair. 931 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: Well, then Tamar tells Shannon she's not the victim here, 932 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 2: and Shannon walks out and Gina follows Shannon. But before that, 933 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: Tamara like, you know, Shannon and Tamara are at it 934 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 2: a little bit, and tam starts laughing because she says, 935 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: it looks like she's behind bars. I may have split 936 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 2: up a little bit when she was clever there, but 937 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 2: I have, and I've told this to Tamor's face. I 938 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: don't like the word victim. 939 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 3: I don't like the word victim. 940 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 941 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 3: I don't like it anyway any no matter. 942 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, let's let's find a new. 943 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: Word, any other one stop playing the whatever. Yeah, Like, 944 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 3: I don't know what the new word would be. 945 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. But for whatever reason, whenever anybody says victim, 946 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 2: it's hard. I'm like, ugh, even when somebody is being 947 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: a victim, Yeah. 948 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like one of It's like the 949 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 3: word narcissist. Narcissist bothers me because if you listen to 950 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 3: everybody's a narcissist, No they aren't. Yeah, not everybody's a narcissist, 951 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 3: and not everybody. 952 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 2: It was like on Beverly Hills when everybody learned the 953 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 2: word gaslighting. 954 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: Deflect. I don't like that word either. Stop deflecting. 955 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh you're gaslight deflecting your like all. 956 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 3: Of it on all of these like therapy words triggered. Uh, 957 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 3: it's not safe here. I could go down the list. 958 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 3: I just touss everybody out. 959 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it works better. Then, Shannon says Tarmra is in 960 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 2: cahoots with Alexis. 961 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 3: I love the word cahoots. 962 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 2: By the way, oh, cahoots is on our keep list. 963 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: Shannon found the text from Okay, this is a smoking gun. 964 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: But before we get to the smoking gun. Yes, when 965 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 2: Tarmra says, Shannon's probably heading to the bar, and. 966 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 3: Then she headed to the bar and got a diet 967 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 3: cocon of Belvidere's soda, I a little part of me 968 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,439 Speaker 3: died inside. I was like, it wasn't a little part 969 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 3: of me. I was like, it was you know again, 970 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 3: here we are back at the root of the problem. 971 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 3: And I know you want to have a drink because 972 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 3: I do too, and I'd be funny I'd had it 973 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 3: with these women. 974 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but of all the times, wait another thirty minutes 975 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 2: and doing your home hall room. 976 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like, just don't get these cameras what they want. 977 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: No like and you didn't like before at least she'd 978 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: be like a little bit of velvetere, and so this 979 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: time she's like fuck it. She may as well have 980 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 2: been like, give me a double. 981 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: I mean that I would have done myself, which I have. 982 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, this place, you know, Like, so if. 983 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna say you're gonna leave, then leave. 984 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 3: Leave all the way. 985 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't going home. 986 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 3: I'm like to America or to your room. I wanted 987 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 3: to the bar right like it's the bar. I know, 988 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: why are we in the bar? Are you going to 989 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 3: America on Jet Blue? Give us a trip? 990 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 2: Are you going? 991 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 3: Where are you going? 992 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: And you're only going down one flight of stairs to 993 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 2: order your velvetere with the camera crew there. 994 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 3: Just don't do that. 995 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: Just wait it out like the rest of us, and 996 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: go the mini bar at your mini bar and have 997 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 2: a snickers and a beverage and cry away your sorrows 998 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 2: in peace. 999 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: In private, what you do is you turn on the 1000 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: shower so they can't see you. You go in your bathroom, 1001 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 3: have a mini bar, drink and then just say, you know, 1002 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: I'm really tired. You just fall asleep and that's it. 1003 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 2: That's it, and so many ways. 1004 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: Call us next time. 1005 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 2: Right in, Laser will then plug your phone in. 1006 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: Right. 1007 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've die. Yeah, God bless you, Laser Laser. 1008 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 2: The amount of times you've plugged my phone in. I 1009 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 2: am thankful. 1010 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 3: I love him. 1011 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 2: I'd be like, and he's like, you need to go 1012 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 2: to bed. Okay, I go to bed. 1013 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 3: Teddy gets mouthy. 1014 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 2: I get very mouthy. Oh but you don't. 1015 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 3: Oh I get worse. I'm way worse than you. No, 1016 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 3: I just yeah, you're you're just mouthy. I'm rude and mouthy, 1017 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 3: which is a wonderful combination. 1018 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 2: You know, what were the gifts that keep on giving um? 1019 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 2: But then Shannon says, Tamra is in cahoots with Alexis. 1020 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 2: Shannon found the text from Alexis in two thousand. I mean, 1021 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: this is brilliant. The way she found it. 1022 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 3: It's incredible because she went to cuss out Alexis and 1023 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 3: tell her she can't come on the trip, and then 1024 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 3: the gift of text is right there. 1025 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 2: But also there, do you have the same phone numbers 1026 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: from twenty eighteen? 1027 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 3: I can neither confirm nor deny. 1028 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 2: I don't think that you do well. 1029 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 3: Thanks for telling everybody shit. 1030 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: But I feel like, especially if you're in. 1031 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 3: Your text migrate. 1032 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 2: They do sometimes. Yet, Yeah, I don't. 1033 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 3: Think about getting a new number. Let's say you change 1034 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 3: your number, your text will still be there. 1035 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 2: Because I was. Also, it gave me a little bit 1036 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,280 Speaker 2: of anxiety that she doesn't delete any of her texts. 1037 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 2: And how does she still have storage? 1038 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 3: Maybe she has the extra big. 1039 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: One, because there is no way in hell I have 1040 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: text messages from twenty eighteen. No, unless I took a 1041 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 2: screenshot and saved them. 1042 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 3: No, I mean it's six almost seven years. Yes, I 1043 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 3: count on my fingers. I am doing math on TikTok 1044 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 3: and I follow this algebra tude teacher on top. Oh 1045 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,479 Speaker 3: my god, No, no, I do it nighttime. And guess 1046 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 3: what I'm doing? 1047 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 2: Pretty good? Great? Did you give yourself well? 1048 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: I passed these last couple of problems? 1049 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 2: Did you actually have to input an answer? You're just 1050 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 2: watching it. 1051 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 3: I was watching it, but no, I wasn't guessing I 1052 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 3: was right with her. I was like, oh, yeah, and 1053 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 3: then you need to multiply that, and yeah, I was 1054 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 3: right there with her. I've always wanted to go back 1055 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 3: to math because I feel like as an adult, I 1056 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 3: would understand it better. It's like, the weakest part. 1057 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: Of my math is so bad for me. 1058 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 3: But I have visions. One time I asked Tom, like, 1059 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 3: when I was in my thirties or forties, could I 1060 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 3: get a math tutor because I really wanted to go 1061 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 3: back and overcome my math problems from when I was in. 1062 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: School, because he wanted to be and wanted to be 1063 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 2: perfect wrapped in a riddle. 1064 00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 3: And then math. Yeah, instead of lawsuits, math involved in 1065 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 3: that a lot, and it's not in my favorite Fuck y'all, 1066 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 3: where was this eighty seven whatever million, Tom, you put 1067 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 3: into the firm that was of your own personal money. 1068 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 2: I don't know we had that, but I wish I 1069 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: had some. 1070 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 3: Well, aren't I supposed to have some of it? 1071 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 2: Where to go go? My life? But then, Shannon, everything 1072 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 2: you and Tamor have said in the media since the 1073 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 2: divorce are lies. 1074 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 3: So let's story. 1075 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 2: Okay, So Alexis Bellino used to be on the show 1076 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 2: a bajillion years ago, before Shannon was ever on the show. 1077 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 2: Shannon and Alexis both on the television show. 1078 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 3: But not at the same time. 1079 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 2: Then years past, Shannon and Tarma, you know, become part 1080 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 2: of the Trace Amigos, their besties. By Trace Amigas, I 1081 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 2: mean before there was ever the live show, any of those. 1082 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 3: Types of r They were just whooping it up in Mexico. 1083 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were whooping it up, but they went to 1084 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: go whoop it up with h. 1085 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 4: Mcde I don't like to say her name, Oh, okay, 1086 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 4: because then it becomes a whole nother situation. They went 1087 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 4: out with her, They went out with her, she was 1088 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 4: doing a live show, and Shannon and Tarma, I don't 1089 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 4: know if I need to say allegedly, but said some 1090 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 4: things about Alexis's husband, okay, and they sued. 1091 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 2: And well that's the issue. At the beginning of this season, 1092 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: Alexis said that she had absolutely nothing to do with 1093 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 2: that lawsuit because she was already separated from Jim. I 1094 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 2: know that this is why it gets tricky, because then 1095 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: we see this text. 1096 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 3: Message we have engaged an attorney and we'll be suing 1097 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 3: you and Tarma for slander. 1098 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,959 Speaker 2: Oh, Alexis, you will be hearing from our attorney tomorrow. 1099 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 2: So whether or not, here's the problem, we may end up. 1100 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 2: I'm assuming we'll probably end up seeing these documents in 1101 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 2: some capacity and maybe if they filed, yeah, they Yes, 1102 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 2: the girls had to pay out a fucking shit time. Really, 1103 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 2: so I guess they allegedly talked about his business, which 1104 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 2: led to listen, we're not talking shit about Jimbalino because 1105 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of money to be paying 1106 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 2: off shit. I don't even have I don't even know 1107 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: what a promisory notice, so I don't have that. 1108 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 3: Kind of time promise to do something. 1109 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 2: But this text message, regardless if Alexis is a part 1110 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 2: of any of these lawsuits, the audience doesn't care. I 1111 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,919 Speaker 2: don't care. I'm assuming you don't care because this text 1112 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 2: message is there, and the fact that Shannon had it 1113 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: from twenty eighteen is she should be thanking her lucky start. 1114 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 3: Pretty pretty legendary. 1115 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 2: How did we feel about this episode? Where do we 1116 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 2: think we go from here? Oh? 1117 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a full on blowout 1118 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 3: and I can't wait. I love these full on blowout, 1119 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 3: and I think that multiple side side fights are going 1120 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 3: to happen and everybody's going to get in and I'm 1121 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 3: so excited about it. 1122 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think there's going to be some 1123 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 2: fights that were not necessarily expecting yep. And then I 1124 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 2: think there's going to be some reck infiliations. 1125 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 3: Though, only do it if you mean it. I know, 1126 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 3: I don't reconcile just because. 1127 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 2: How many times have you said I'm sorry on Beverly Hills. 1128 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 3: Well, I've never said I'm sorry when I didn't mean it. 1129 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,959 Speaker 2: I was like I didn't fix So No. 1130 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 3: I have said I'm sorry. And when I do say 1131 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 3: i'm sorry, I mean it. Otherwise I won't say it. 1132 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 2: How do you feel about like half apologies? I'd rather wait, Like, 1133 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 2: what about I'm sorry? If you felt no. 1134 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 3: That's a backhand, that's not an apology, backhanded you know? No, No, 1135 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 3: Well i'm sorry. If you felt that. 1136 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 2: Way, that was not my intention, go fuck yourself. 1137 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was your intention, or you wouldn't have done it. 1138 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you really did it by accident, you 1139 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 2: would say that is I I fucked up. I'm so sorry. 1140 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never seen I've never said I'm sorry and 1141 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 3: didn't mean it. I've never squash something just because someone 1142 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 3: told me to or you should do this. I was like, no, 1143 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 3: I don't feel that way. 1144 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,439 Speaker 2: I'm sorry you. 1145 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 3: No, I don't care what it looks like. 1146 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 2: No. 1147 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 3: Well, I enjoyed this. I enjoyed these last two episodes. 1148 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 3: I've enjoyed like recapping this show with you. I've had fun. 1149 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 3: I want to see what comes next. I'm excited about 1150 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 3: the next episode. God bless these shows. 1151 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: God bless these shows. Well, thanks you guys for tuning in, 1152 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 2: and we'll be back next week. 1153 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 3: Thanks guys,