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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome Mark vander Meyer with you, soon

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Speaker 1: to be joined by John Harris, as we catch up

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Speaker 1: with players past and present Tonight once again, it's a

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Speaker 1: summer specials week, current and former Texans, Texans legends, community members,

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Speaker 1: and one tonight very special last segment of the program,

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Speaker 1: part of the Where Are They Now? Podcast series with

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty, it is Marcus Coleman, an original Houston Texan

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Speaker 1: and a guy who made one of the best plays

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Speaker 1: in franchise history. I think there are different categories here.

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Speaker 1: There are biggest plays, and they're best plays. Sometimes they're

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Speaker 1: the same. Sometimes the best plays don't show up as

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Speaker 1: the biggest because well, the season might not have been

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Speaker 1: that great or it turned out to be even at

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Speaker 1: a loss, but it was a great play. This was

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Speaker 1: part of a win, though, So we'll get into that

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Speaker 1: about Marcus Coleman a little bit later. You seasoned Texans

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Speaker 1: veterans know which play I'm talking about before we get

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Speaker 1: to who we're going to have on from the current roster.

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Speaker 1: If you tuned in expecting to hear about hearings and

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Speaker 1: legal issues, that doesn't happen here on this show, not

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Speaker 1: tonight anyway. This is players pasted in present and as

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Speaker 1: far as the present guys go, you'll hear from Elite Collins,

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Speaker 1: also Jail And Petree second round draft pick out of

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Speaker 1: Baylor terrible John McClean impression, by the way, but he's

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Speaker 1: been doing well. Houstonian Texan Lovey Smith loves that, and

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Speaker 1: I think he also loves the way he's been participating

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Speaker 1: so far in OTA's and mini camp. But let's start here.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Renard twenty twenty draft choice out of the University

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Speaker 1: of Florida eight sacks last year, did not get to

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Speaker 1: play in every game. He's coming back off season on schedule,

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Speaker 1: and John Harris and I visited with him about how

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Speaker 1: it was all unfolding for him heading into the break

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Speaker 1: and heading into training camp all season good. I'm just

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Speaker 1: what I feel comfortable with obviously, just you know, missing

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Speaker 1: making sure that I get my hips and everything that

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Speaker 1: just the rhythm everything is going down. So it's been

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Speaker 1: pretty good outside as far as and you know, I've

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Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, and and you know I

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Speaker 1: love talking about pass rush that kind of thing because

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Speaker 1: it always feels like there's something can add to your repertoire.

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Speaker 1: But you don't want to get crazy with it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be like, hey, check this out,

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Speaker 1: master all those different things, but have you been trying

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Speaker 1: to add more to your repertoire or shine and kind

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Speaker 1: of polish what you already do and do it even better? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's an innovative game. I mean it's you're

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Speaker 1: My thing is always just, you know, if I have

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Speaker 1: When we evaluate guys who do what you do, dude,

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Speaker 1: just said. It's just the guys that they surrounding this

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Speaker 1: contract gears and they'd be like, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't want to focus on that. I'm just focus

428
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Speaker 1: on playing ball. But it's it's kind of hard because

429
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,160
Speaker 1: you don't at the end of the day, you don't

430
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,399
Speaker 1: really know where you're gonna be the following year. Um,

431
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,399
Speaker 1: it's something for me that I just focused on on

432
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,440
Speaker 1: playing ball. It was my this is my third time

433
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,840
Speaker 1: actually hitting the market. I undersigned all these short deals

434
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,760
Speaker 1: and um, I mean even this deal's kind of short.

435
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Speaker 1: But I mean it's it's always uh, it's always a

436
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Speaker 1: blessing to have a two year contract, all right, Malie Collins.

437
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Speaker 1: With us playing for Lovey Smith as the defensive coordinator

438
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Speaker 1: versus playing for Lovey Smith as the head coach, is

439
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 1: there any different so far? Now you have a new

440
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 1: position coach in the shocks is er. Yeah, Jack is great.

441
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 1: Um this our assistant delone coach Kenyan, He's great. Love,

442
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 1: He's great. You know, it's just UM, it's it's different

443
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Speaker 1: when you play for a coach to really value UM

444
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 1: what you do as a front. You know, he values

445
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 1: UM the defense affront so much and understands what we're

446
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 1: supposed to do, how we're supposed to disrupt. Speaking on

447
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 1: me UM specifically being a three technique. What that means

448
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 1: to this defense? UM, the demand of what I what

449
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 1: I have to do? You know? So, UM, Love, you

450
00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 1: understands that. Jock understands that, and uh, that's something that

451
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Speaker 1: I that I value somebody that understands the value of

452
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 1: that position. I think Love it called you the engine

453
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 1: of the defense, and we thought about it. You know,

454
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 1: that's probably pretty good because that's a three technique. You're

455
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 1: always motoring, you're always going on field, you're always moving.

456
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Speaker 1: But yeah, you got to play with strength and hold

457
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Speaker 1: the point too. At some point when you hear something

458
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 1: like that, Love you saying you're the engine of the defense,

459
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 1: what's that mean to you? Um? It means I gotta

460
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: come in and shape so I can go and I

461
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta be the same guy every day. I

462
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 1: gotta be consistent. If something's off, I gotta be the

463
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Speaker 1: one that gets it back on track. That's the That's

464
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Speaker 1: just the standards I put on myself. And just knowing that,

465
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Speaker 1: you know, the people that don't played this position to

466
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Speaker 1: Warran SAPs, to John Randalls though, um, Tommy Harris, Henry Milton,

467
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, those type of guys. All right. So

468
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Speaker 1: what is it like in mini camp OTAs versus training

469
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Speaker 1: camp for you? What are you getting out of the

470
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Speaker 1: offseason practices versus once you get the pads on and

471
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: it gets really physical. How do you benefit from that

472
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Speaker 1: from the choreography of this time of year. Well, I

473
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: think I think mainly you benefit from being in being

474
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Speaker 1: able to be in the weight room on a full

475
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Speaker 1: schedule with Mike and Mike and the guys. You know,

476
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Speaker 1: you get a lot of injury prevention stuff, you know,

477
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Speaker 1: going through all that type of stuff. It's being in

478
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Speaker 1: the off season, and then when you get to the

479
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: when you get to the season, it's like clockwork. You know,

480
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: everything everything is just working together. Continuing with our mini

481
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Speaker 1: camp visit with Malik Collins on Texans Radio after seventeen

482
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Speaker 1: game season. Can you put into words how your body feels.

483
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Speaker 1: I think I feel good right now. Usually in the

484
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: offseason I get heavy and have to cut a bunch

485
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Speaker 1: of weight towards the end of something like that, but

486
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: this year kind of stayed around middle ground or where

487
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 1: I want to be just pretty much. Yeah, So something

488
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 1: happened at the end of the season. I want to

489
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Speaker 1: ask you about it, if you don't mind. You had

490
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Speaker 1: done your last press availability out here after the Titans game,

491
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Speaker 1: and I was standing outside in the hallway right over here,

492
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Speaker 1: and I was waiting for I think Kirko was coming

493
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Speaker 1: over due to interview, and you're walking back in the

494
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Speaker 1: locker room and Davis was walking out. You were going

495
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Speaker 1: back in. I saw you stop him. You shook hands,

496
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Speaker 1: and you talk to him, and I could just tell

497
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Speaker 1: by the body language. I didn't know what you'd said

498
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Speaker 1: to him, but I could tell by the body language

499
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Speaker 1: that you were encouraging or telling him, hey, look, you know,

500
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: we got you, you know, and he was kind of nodding.

501
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: It felt like he had to gain the trust in

502
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Speaker 1: the respect of you defensive veterans and just the veterans

503
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Speaker 1: on the team. As a whole Hey, you know, tell

504
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: me exactly what you said to him. But what we're

505
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Speaker 1: trying to get across to Davis at that moment, a

506
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Speaker 1: rookie just finishing his first year, you event, that's been

507
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Speaker 1: around and seeing some things. I just told him I

508
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: was proud of him, proud of his growth, you know you.

509
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's you're a fool not to see the

510
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: growth that he had when he first stepped on the

511
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: field to following up the last game and just throughout

512
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Speaker 1: the season, the different things that came his way, and

513
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: how he just he stayed the course and he stayed

514
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Speaker 1: being the same guy. He actually grew from it. So

515
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Speaker 1: I just told him I was proud of him, and

516
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to, you know, seeing seeing him develop

517
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Speaker 1: even more in the future, in the near future. And yeah,

518
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Speaker 1: pretty much. I want to get back to something you said.

519
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Speaker 1: He said previously you might have gained weight during the

520
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Speaker 1: off season, had to cut weight, and now not so much.

521
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Speaker 1: So as you get older, as your body changes, how

522
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Speaker 1: do you change how you take care of yourself physically. Yeah,

523
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: it's just for me. It started, um, you know, using

524
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Speaker 1: an off season, I take like three weeks off and

525
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Speaker 1: just get right back at it this offseason. I kind

526
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Speaker 1: of I just started back in the weight room first.

527
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Speaker 1: Usually I started back and I'm pretty much training right away.

528
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Speaker 1: That's when I trained, basically would BT or in a lot,

529
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Speaker 1: and I mean this all season. I just took it

530
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Speaker 1: a little bit slower, but I stepped up a little

531
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Speaker 1: bit on my nutrition part and my PT part. Just

532
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: taking care of wear and tear on my body. That

533
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: did I'd have felt that I don't want to feel again,

534
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: or just at least to be able to manage it

535
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Speaker 1: a little bit better. More from our Mini Camp visit

536
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Speaker 1: with Malie Collins in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. You're

537
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Speaker 1: not old at all. You're a vet, your seasoned. You've

538
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: been around, You've seen some things. And then last year

539
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Speaker 1: you got to play next to this rook Roy Lopez.

540
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Speaker 1: What kind of role for you? Obviously, you gotta take

541
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: care of your role, you gotta do what you do.

542
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: But you got the rook next to you. How did

543
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: that relationship grow throughout the year as you're seeing him

544
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: kind of grow up as a rookie and you're saying, well, rook,

545
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: we don't do it that way. To do it this way?

546
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Speaker 1: What was that, and how was that for you? Kind

547
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: of playing that role of Hey, I've been around him,

548
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: see some things I can help you. You obviously have

549
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: to have a rookie that wants it, But how important

550
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: was that for him to have you next to him?

551
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about Roy's? Did Roy's? You know?

552
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: He he's so mature for you know, his age and

553
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean not really his aged, but just coming into

554
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: the league last year, Um, I really didn't have to

555
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: say much. I just kind of had to do what

556
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: I do, and um, you know, Roy, he if he

557
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: sees something that he would like, he had pick it up.

558
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: He watches everything. I mean, he listens to everything. So

559
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if he likes it, he'd pick it out

560
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: and put it to the side for himself. If he doesn't,

561
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: which is probably not at that point, it's just something

562
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: that he doesn't need, he just put it to the

563
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: wayside and he won't use it at all. But I mean,

564
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean me and Roy were close. Yeah. I love

565
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Speaker 1: playing next to him and I'm looking forward to how

566
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: he develops too, and I want to play play with

567
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: him for a long time. All right, A league we

568
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: have some hurry up offense off field questions for you?

569
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Speaker 1: Ready to go? Yeah, okay, other sport you would be

570
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: playing professionally if it wasn't football. You have the ability.

571
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: So what's the other sport? Boxing? Boxing? Oh? I like

572
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: this A favorite boxer of all time? My favorite buch

573
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Speaker 1: Ray Zone. Very nice. Okay, other professions. So you're not

574
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: a football player, you're not a professional athlete. What are

575
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: you doing? Uh? I don't really want to put a

576
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 1: title on it, but i'd be doing something with cars,

577
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: from flipping cars, the building, I'm putting bills together something

578
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: like that. Do you do that anyway? Okay, that's probably

579
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: post career Malik right there. Yeah. I like that now too,

580
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: but I'll probably be full time with it right now

581
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: that you do this much anymore. But cheat food? Okay?

582
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: What's your favorite food to bene on if you are

583
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: able to? I'm still cheat Okay. What's the one that

584
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: gets you in the most trouble? Burgers? Really? Yeah, I'm

585
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: a burger. Bacon burgers. No, I don't really do too

586
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: much bacon. Actually I don't really do a lot of

587
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: cheese on my burgers. I just really yeah, just like

588
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: it's the actual burger. Okay, Uh, give me two or

589
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: three TV shows that you might have binged on recently,

590
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: or you could just be one whatever, a couple of

591
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: them that you really like. All I do is pretty

592
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: binge watched TV shows. And it's probably like once or

593
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: twice a year, I'll just binge watching ketchup on everything.

594
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: Last year it was during COVID, right, of course, I

595
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: just had to sit in there at the house and

596
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: so give us one or two that you really liked.

597
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: I was pretty much just finishing up all of the Power,

598
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: episode of Power, the Ghost Book of Power, and then BMF. Okay,

599
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: all right, I need to watch Power. Yeah, Powers, Yeah,

600
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: Deepi's watching it and told us we need to watch it,

601
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: and we have it. Okay, a couple of the orders.

602
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Then business dress suit sharp drips nice. But are you

603
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: wearing clean Jordans or you're wearing some leather dress shoes.

604
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: It depends. It just depends of the event, event the field.

605
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a. I think it's a you can

606
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: have both, really, Okay, Roy Lopez gets married to the wedding,

607
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: you would wear what? It depends? Am I in the

608
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: wedding or I'm just saying you're just gone, You're gone.

609
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: If I'm just attending. I'm not wearing it, because if

610
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: you're in the wedding, then you gotta wear what he said. Yeah,

611
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't know you're there at the way. I'm keeping

612
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: you from that location. Uh, let's go Hawaii, Hawaii. Oh yeah,

613
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not wearing no dress shoes. Okay, you're

614
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: wearing to George. Okay, d better teammate iron Man or Batman. Oh,

615
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm not into that. You're out into the superheroes. He's

616
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: like me, I like that favorite Houston food text Max

617
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: or brisket, because you have eaten while you're here, right, Yeah,

618
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: he's got to watch how much you eat, right, text

619
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: Max gotta pick one. I know what I would do

620
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: this one. I know exactly what I would do this.

621
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: That's from Kansas City, So you know I can't get

622
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: barbecue too much love. I say, you can put them together.

623
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: You give me like brisket tacos. You could definitely have

624
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: that done. Yeah, you could give that as an option.

625
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't, uh build your football team around

626
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: one of these guys Jannis or John morand red Zone Monster.

627
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, red Zone Monster. I just think I think

628
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: at this point he's a little bit more proven. Yeah,

629
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: and he you know, you know he's gonna be healthy.

630
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: He's strong. Yeah, he's strong. All right, Malike, thanks for

631
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: joining us. Good luck team. Malie Collins is one of

632
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: those players that has that gentle, giant delivery, just kind

633
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: of soft spoken in person, such a nice guy. Then

634
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: he gets on the field and raw personality change. It

635
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: happens to so many of these players, and it's a

636
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: good thing. It's a good thing when you employ them

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Coming up next, Marcus Coleman,

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Speaker 1: an original Texan Drew Doherty, visits with him. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to set it up. He made one of the best plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was one of the biggest because

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Speaker 1: of the context, but certainly one of the best plays

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Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise. Will have it for you.

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Speaker 1: Next here, I'm Texans Radio Players Week Past and Present. Well,

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Speaker 1: we heard from some present day players already like Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Bernard Jail and Petrie MALIEK. Collins. Well, what about our

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Speaker 1: next guest who is a player of Texans Past Texans

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Speaker 1: Legends community member Marcus Coleman, and I mentioned this, he

648
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Speaker 1: made one of the best plays in Texans history and

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00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: I'll qualify best as opposed to greatest or most important.

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00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: It was important at the time, but it was year three.

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Speaker 1: They went seven and nine that year, which was a

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Speaker 1: step in the right direction after going four and twelve

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Speaker 1: and five and eleven to begin franchise history. But Week

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Speaker 1: three Texans start the season o and two losses to

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Speaker 1: San Diego with Drew Brees at the time, and Detroit

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Speaker 1: at Detroit. And there they are at Arrowhead Stadium playing

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Speaker 1: Kansas City with Trent Green and Dick vermil playing, Green

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Speaker 1: playing and Vermial coaching. Of course, anyway, the game is

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Speaker 1: not going that well. It's fourteen to six and the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are threatening. It's about to be twenty one to

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Speaker 1: six because Green is getting ready to throw a touchdown pass. However,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Coleman would get in the way and make one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest plays at the time in the history

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Speaker 1: of the franchise. Green drops back to pass rows right

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Speaker 1: side of the end zone, intercept that Coleman brings it

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Speaker 1: out five ten fifteen twenty up sideline, but thirty the

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Speaker 1: forty the fifteen Coleman's gonna score. Marcus Coleman ten five

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Speaker 1: and times into the end zone Coleman has a touchdown

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Speaker 1: for the Texans. What a magical play by Marcus Coleman

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Speaker 1: over one hundred yards he returns it for a score.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget Texans pr director Tony Wiley giving me

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Speaker 1: all sorts of grief for not saying rock and roll

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Speaker 1: on that play. I guess I was in a state

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Speaker 1: of happy shock if you will, that that happened. And

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Wells, by the way, I see you, Jonathan Jonathan

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00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: Wells ran in the two point conversion. Texans tied the game,

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Speaker 1: actually fall behind twenty one to fourteen. And credit the

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Speaker 1: young Texans at the time, David Carr looking good in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, hitting Andrey Johnson for a big pass.

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Speaker 1: Derek Armstrong remember him for a couple of big plays,

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Speaker 1: including the field goal set up Chris Brown hit the

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Speaker 1: game winner with seven seconds left. The rest is history.

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Speaker 1: But it wouldn't have happened, I believe, without Marcus Coleman

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Speaker 1: making that play. An original Houston Texan taken in the

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Speaker 1: expand ancient draft from the New York Jets. He and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn came over from New York former Bill Parcel's pupils,

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Speaker 1: and Marcus factored big in the early years out of

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Speaker 1: Texans defense that finished sixteenth in year one. I always

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Speaker 1: talk about that d as being better than advertised. The

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Speaker 1: offense really struggled that inaugural season, but Coleman made some

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Speaker 1: big plays like the way we just talked about and

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty. As part of his Where Are They Now?

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Speaker 1: Podcast series, visited with the former Texan Marcus Coleman. First

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Speaker 1: things first, we see the background there Trinity. Yeah, what's

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Speaker 1: going on coaching the secondary and in the university subsion

696
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Speaker 1: sub Division three school here in San Antonio. Similar to

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Speaker 1: we kind of call ourselves the Ivy League or the

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Speaker 1: Stanford of the South just because of anca Gimmt requirements.

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Speaker 1: Ethletically we were, you know, just as good as well.

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Speaker 1: So we unfortunately lost in the first round in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs this year. So just you know, trying to build

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Speaker 1: on next year and right now, you know how the

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00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: college round is everybody's recruitment right now. So we just

704
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Speaker 1: got off the road, just trying to get it in. Man,

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Speaker 1: We're doing good. Yeah, how'd you choose to go to

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Speaker 1: Trinity as far as as coaching, because you've done a

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Speaker 1: few different things since you left the NFL. After the

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Speaker 1: sixth season, right, Yeah, I was coaching indoor actually my

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Speaker 1: last year in Dallas. The head coach, Jeremy Irmin. He

710
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Speaker 1: and I kind of crossed pass coach ever played about

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Speaker 1: eighty nine years, but it was in the early part

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Speaker 1: of his career. We kind of crossed paths and then

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Speaker 1: just kind of got introduced with Jason Menix and that

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Speaker 1: win for those of the Yeah, you know our and

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Speaker 1: m flans. Yes, we just kind of reconnected that way.

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Speaker 1: That and I were doing radio on ESPN twelve. He

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Speaker 1: spend his own twelve forty Daniel san Antonio. We just

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Speaker 1: kind of reconnected that way. And you know, as I

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Speaker 1: was going through my indoor coach in phase, coach was

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Speaker 1: working his way to being the head coach, and you know,

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Speaker 1: shortly after he Yetta, he brought me. Like I mentioned

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Speaker 1: at the top, you're an original Texan and a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks that are watching and listening to this, they

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Speaker 1: know a lot about the guys that played in the

725
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Speaker 1: last few years, but they don't know about the sort

726
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: of the history of the franchise and how things started.

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Speaker 1: You were almost part of a package deal with Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been starters for Jets at corner, and

729
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: the Texans plucked you and a lot of other really

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Speaker 1: really good defensive players and a few other offensive players,

731
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Speaker 1: but really good defensive players in that first expansion draft

732
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Speaker 1: and in two thousand and two, wins and losses, they

733
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Speaker 1: don't really come the way you'd like, but that's that's

734
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Speaker 1: what happens with an expansion team. But you guys still

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Speaker 1: had had a hell of a defense and you were

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Speaker 1: a main part of that. Well, yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Actually, Aaron and I ended up playing

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Speaker 1: what's the coast the eight or nine years together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know between the Jets and then he's the way

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Speaker 1: that it started, you know, getting guys like Jamie Sharper

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00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 1: obviously Seth Gary Walker, Guys like that could come in

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Speaker 1: and then have won before you know, a different places.

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Speaker 1: I think that was you know what mister Cassily and

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Speaker 1: of course Kapers were trying to do. They were trying

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Speaker 1: to get guys that had experience particular defense. It's easier

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Speaker 1: to build a defense, you know, start a little faster

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Speaker 1: kind of way to the offense to catch up, you know,

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Speaker 1: as they get the rhythm going and get some cut

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Speaker 1: new and he gets some other guys a place to

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Speaker 1: where you know, they get to the level that you want. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought we obviously held our own, you know,

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Speaker 1: as much as we could. But being young on offense,

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Speaker 1: you know, honestly, I probably would have liked to have

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00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: seen David you know, probably wait a year or so

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Speaker 1: behind a vent, but obviously that's about my pay grade.

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Speaker 1: So we were trying to do everything, trying to make

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Speaker 1: sure that we played the kind of football that we wanted.

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Speaker 1: And we were kind of old school in regards like

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Speaker 1: coach Fan Jail who was at DC at the time,

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Speaker 1: like coach Kapers, you know, they're old school, run to

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Speaker 1: the ball, tackle, physical kind of coaches. That's the background

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Speaker 1: that they come from, and we just tried to live

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Speaker 1: to that and try to do that every weekend. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was fun, but obviously you don't get the wins

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Speaker 1: and you know, the winds that you want, but it

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Speaker 1: was fun coming in and kind of laying the groundwork

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Speaker 1: for everything, you know that's happened up until this point.

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Speaker 1: Continuing with Drew Doherty's Where Are They Now? Podcast with

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Speaker 1: former Texan Marcus Coleman, all right, let's rewind back to

770
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Speaker 1: your high school days. You went to a place in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: Lake Highlands, And for those who don't know, there have

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Speaker 1: been many, many great football players who went onto the

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Speaker 1: NFL play to Lake Hilands. Texans fans know about Wade Smith.

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Speaker 1: He was in the NFL for about a decade. He

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Speaker 1: was a pro bowler. Here you have Phil Dawson, the kicker,

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Speaker 1: who was a little bit after you. I'm guessing right,

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Speaker 1: it feels about a year or two after me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I played together a whole lot of guys. But you

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Speaker 1: were on a team, correct me if I'm wrong. You

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Speaker 1: were with Detron Smith who made it to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and Derek Culler's a couple of running backs. They ran

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Speaker 1: the wishbone. Were you also a running back as well?

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Speaker 1: Or did you play both ways? Or how good was

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Speaker 1: this this Lake Hyland's team? You're un Oh man, it

785
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Speaker 1: was so good. I actually started it in the beginning.

786
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Speaker 1: I played a little bit of wide out or tight end.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I only got a couplications, and then you know what,

788
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: over the free safety before a time, So I didn't

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Speaker 1: played a lot of both ways a lot and at

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Speaker 1: that point, no one we were running the wishbone. Didn't

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Speaker 1: want to anyway, so I displayed defense, you know, defensive

792
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Speaker 1: special teams. But we were good. It ended up so

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Speaker 1: my sophomore year when lost to Huntsville Dan in Waco,

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Speaker 1: UM and that team was actually loaded to Larry Walker,

795
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Speaker 1: Ady Robinson, you know, borrowing a lot of those guys,

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Speaker 1: and then with Detron myself, Garry we lost selectually ended

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: up playing Carter in the Cotton Bowl. Wow. Yeah, huge game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it was about thirty six thirty seven thousand, you

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Speaker 1: know even back then. Yes, crazy, Yeah, So we ended

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Speaker 1: up losing the Carter that year, and then the next

801
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: year we placed Carter again in the first round and

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00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: they barely be this my senior year. So those teams

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Speaker 1: were good. Man. We had some some guys that there

804
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Speaker 1: were some really good athletes that came out of Lake

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Speaker 1: Collegs and and hal for a long time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can go back as far as Alfredo Griffith tight End.

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Speaker 1: He came out of Lake Hollars Hall of Famer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that was a while back, but there have

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Speaker 1: been a lot of guys that made it to the

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Speaker 1: NFL that have come out of the Lake College. And

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Speaker 1: I think at one point, I want to say it

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00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: was while I was playing. Obviously, um, we had more

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Speaker 1: guys in the NFL from Lake Hollows High School than

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Speaker 1: anybody at one point. I want to say it was

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Speaker 1: like midway through my career. There were a bunch of

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Speaker 1: us just kind of floating around, you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of different teams than you know during that time. So

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Speaker 1: did you play first the FOODO or was he after year? Yeah, Couzine, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coz he was my coach. He was a pretty famous

820
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Speaker 1: guy up there in the Dallas here. I know a

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Speaker 1: little bit about this because I went to ask MU

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Speaker 1: and I graduated from SOMEMU in two thousands, but I

823
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: started there in ninety six. My roommate was from Lake

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Speaker 1: Hylands and the guy that lived across the two guys

825
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Speaker 1: lived across the hall where two of his buddies from

826
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Speaker 1: Lake Hylands. So I heard all about Lake Higlands football

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00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: and and all that made a pretty good they'd a

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Speaker 1: pretty good team like when we were in college. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw that. I was like, holy cow, three guys

830
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Speaker 1: from one team in the NFL, and I knew you

831
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Speaker 1: guys ran that Wishbone. So and then you go on

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Speaker 1: to Texas Tech, where again, I mean you're on one

833
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: of the best Texas Tech teams to that point. You

834
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Speaker 1: guys made the Cotton Bowl and you hadn't been to

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Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl I think. So it's what like the

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Speaker 1: forties or fifties maybe, or it was it was a

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Speaker 1: while You're on there with Zach Thomas and a lot

838
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Speaker 1: of other guys. What was that like playing out in

839
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Speaker 1: West Texas after what you did in high school and

840
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, being around the talent that was out there

841
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Speaker 1: at that time. It was fun because you know what

842
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: it was, and it's weird. It was one of those

843
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: things where it was kind of a rebuild. I mean again,

844
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, out of up you know what comes Dikes.

845
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Speaker 1: They made a hard push a lot of the guys

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Speaker 1: you know, in Dallas, to be honest with you, so

847
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: outside of myself, I know from Carter that were about

848
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: filling six guys alone. You know that they kind of

849
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: came over, you know in my freshman class. And then

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Speaker 1: you get Zach out of Pampa Jerome Woods and came

851
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: out of Jerome who came out of Prosbyton, so he

852
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: just you know, kind of scattered around. We had a

853
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: couple of guys from California, you know, kind of come

854
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: in and I mean it really was a rebuild and

855
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: Sam the opportunity to build it up to get to

856
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl. Even though it's some spots, we were

857
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: outmatched that USC team that year. I think everybody on

858
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: the Too Deep went in the first and second round

859
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: that year. It was it was unbelievable. That was the key.

860
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Speaker 1: Shawn brad Johnson, you know all that, you know, all

861
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: those Yeah, Curtis Conway like, yeah, that that whole group,

862
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: so uh that team too will Beginnis was so yeah,

863
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: that's so I think that I think the first at

864
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Speaker 1: least the first I know, the first two d those

865
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Speaker 1: dudes had gone second and third round everybody, that's how

866
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: low it they were. Yet they were good though, So yeah,

867
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: we came out fast and you know, ended up losing,

868
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, by a lot, but having an opportunity to

869
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: play and get back. It was a step forward for us,

870
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: just because again you're kind of sitting you know, sending

871
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: a tree or building the path for you know, the

872
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: guys below us, and we're getting some group recruits. In

873
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Speaker 1: ninety six, the first sing the Big twelve, they can't

874
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: go as playing, you know for Coach Dice, but he

875
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: was retiring at that point that you get Leach and

876
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: he rolls in and you know gets the rolling. So

877
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: you know that's you know, kind of what it was about,

878
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, but it was exciting though. It's theame time

879
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: a lot. Continuing with Drew Doherty's Where Are They Now?

880
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: Podcast with former texts and Marcus Coleman, you're across paths

881
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: with Mike Leach. I know he was after You're playing days,

882
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, no, Coach Leach as have seen each

883
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: other on and off over the years, and I can

884
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: have talked to each other. I like those Leech funny

885
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: guy definitely understands the game himself, since humor is a

886
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: little different, you know, which is fine. But you know,

887
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: but I like him a lot. You know, he's he's

888
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: a really good coach. He's had a lot of good

889
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: things and and uh, you know he's doing well now.

890
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: So I like that we say a little different because

891
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: he's a he's a martian. You know. I worked out

892
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: in Lubbock for about four years and I hosted his coaches.

893
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: He's a Martian and I would tell him that to

894
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: his face and he'd uh, yeah, yeah, you'd probably that's

895
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: kind of hard to quantify about Martians and everything. Yeah, yeah,

896
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: he was. He also had it. He has a people

897
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: don't realize this, I don't think, but he has a

898
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: pretty good sense of history and so like, yes, you

899
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: bring up your name, Marcus Coleman. Really great player, played

900
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: great history here at Texas Tech. One of the great players.

901
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: You know, he would he would rattle off your stats.

902
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: He knew about the guys that had come before, you know,

903
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: whether it was a guy like you or Zach Thomas

904
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: or all the way back to you know, guys like EJ.

905
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: Holliban whatnot. But yeah, anyway, he does that, he does,

906
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: but he's he doesn't. I don't think he does it

907
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: on purpose. I think he just likes to know that,

908
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: you know, those kinds of things, you know, he likes

909
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: to retain that kind of information. He's kind of who

910
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: he is. Got a curious mind for sure. Ye. So

911
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: you leave Texas Tech, you go into the NFL and

912
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: you go to the Jets. Tough first year, but then

913
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells comes to town. And Bill Parcels, if you

914
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: follow his history, he comes in and he turns things around.

915
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: What was that like playing for Bill Park What was

916
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: your first Bill Parcels moment? Because I don't think I've

917
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: ever met anybody that played for him that can't recall

918
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: what happened the first time they met him? What was

919
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: that like? Oh, well, leaving I guess after risk coach

920
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: type left and Bill comes in. There's so many I

921
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: got I'm trying to pig aloe more Withdrew Toherty at

922
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: original text and Marcus Coleman. Well, give me the first one.

923
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: The best one was just like, what do you first

924
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: remember seeing it like or interacting with him? What was

925
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: that like? It was? And I'll be honest with you,

926
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: I was a little not a It wasn't fear. It

927
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: was more kind of like the old you know what,

928
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: who's in town kind of dude, So, you know, introducing

929
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: yourself to him and talking to him, you know he

930
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: and he's kind of like he already knows everything about

931
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: everybody you know before he walks into the building, you know,

932
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: which is crazy considering he didn't have a lot of

933
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: time to do that. You know, I do remember, you know,

934
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: and this is kind of the famous one that a

935
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: lot of people do know that we were in training

936
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Speaker 1: camp and I've missed the call or something whatever it is,

937
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: and he started calling me the wizard, you know, so uh,

938
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: you know I meaning, you know, it wasn't very smart,

939
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, doing that particular time. So I didn't get

940
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: offended by it obviously, you know, I'm from the old school.

941
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how our coach it was. He

942
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: was really really hard on us, like he was mentally

943
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: and physically, especially in the beginning when he first got there.

944
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Training camp is about eight weeks long. It was a

945
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: couple of weeks like it is now. You know, we

946
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: were we were pretty much in four past every day.

947
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: You know, we'd start training campt off on tertain days,

948
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: but even kind of practice just live goal you know,

949
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: live goal line period, you know, to start practice off.

950
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: But he was one of those guys where he knew

951
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: how to put things together. And that's you know, everybody

952
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: always makes fun of the or talks about him, you know,

953
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: going to the grocery store being able to pick the groceries,

954
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: kind of deal with him and they come in here

955
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: in Dallas wool yeah, because he's really cooking his dish.

956
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: So when he you know, when he's putting putting players

957
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: in certain positions. When you see the revolving door as

958
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: you're coming to the facility of guys that are just

959
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: coming in and coming out, you know that's him, you know,

960
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: kind of you know, making his dish and saw ed

961
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: temper or you know, taking a little one out and

962
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: little water. But he was he was really good at

963
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: doing it. That's Marcus Coleman with Drew Doherty, part of

964
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Speaker 1: the Where Are They Now podcast series, which is available

965
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot com and the Texans app. They're

966
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: really good and there's a lot more to that one.

967
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Great stories from Marcus who's now coaching. We're gonna have

968
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Jay Foreman on tomorrow. That's gonna be fun. Hey, join

969
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: us for another episode of the summer specials Players pasted

970
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: in present for your Texans right here on Texans All Access,

971
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: including but not limited to Marlon Mack. He'll be on tomorrow. Also,

972
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: what veterans shall we pick? Maybe Jay Foreman, who was

973
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: a tackling machine in the early days along with Jamie Sharper.

974
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: We'll do it all here. Have a great night and

975
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: go Texans.