Speaker 1: We had so much to catch up on with our
Speaker 1: friend Kelly Rizzo, and we decided to break our conversation
Speaker 1: up into two parts.
Speaker 2: She is an actress, a host, an.
Speaker 1: Executive producer, and of course, the wife of our beloved
Speaker 1: Bob Saggitt. What did your family think when you told them, Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm dating Bob Saggat from Full House. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm dying to know what's their react? What was their reaction?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: At first, I mean, in the very beginning, they were
Speaker 4: a little hesitant because, you know, just of the age difference,
Speaker 4: because and I'll say this here, I don't know if
Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys know this, but it's such an
Speaker 4: interesting fact to me that Bob and I, John and
Speaker 4: Caitlin and Dave and mel are all exactly twenty three
Speaker 4: years old.
Speaker 2: I never put that together.
Speaker 5: Wow, I never realized that.
Speaker 4: So weird is that twenty three? You know, each each
Speaker 4: has a wife that was exactly three years younger, huh,
Speaker 4: which is crazy. So anyway, but at the time that sounded,
Speaker 4: you know, that age gap sounded a little intense.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe for half a second they had an
Speaker 4: issue with like, oh, I hear he's a dirty comedian.
Speaker 4: You know. Then once they met him and they got
Speaker 4: to know him, were enamored by him, and just my
Speaker 4: family fell in love with him, you know, very hard
Speaker 4: and very quickly, and just were his biggest fans. And
Speaker 4: I mean my mom was just like oh, like she
Speaker 4: she knew Bob news like before I knew it. Like
Speaker 4: she'd be like, oh, I hear he has a new
Speaker 4: show coming up and he's on tour. He just announced this.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how did you I didn't even know that.
Speaker 4: How did you know that?
Speaker 3: Mom? Right?
Speaker 4: Just you know, every day was on top of all
Speaker 4: everything that he was up to. So they adored him
Speaker 4: from I would say, very are you soon into it?
Speaker 4: Maybe like within the first month they're like, all right,
Speaker 4: We're on board.
Speaker 2: So sweet.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: One of the things you guys loved to do was
Speaker 3: travel together. I would love to know where your favorite
Speaker 3: place to travel together was.
Speaker 4: We well, definitely our favorite place that was more of
Speaker 4: like a romantic y kind of destination that was his
Speaker 4: freak was for sure was Cabo Okay, because that's where
Speaker 4: we would go where he would get to lie on
Speaker 4: the beach and smoke a cigar and relax right and
Speaker 4: away from it all. It wasn't a long flight, which
Speaker 4: was nice, two hours barely and we would go to
Speaker 4: you know, his favorite hotel and we would just get
Speaker 4: a nice room and he would just relax and just decompress,
Speaker 4: and we would eat all of the amazing food and
Speaker 4: have all the margaritas and drink really good tequila and
Speaker 4: it was just his absolute happy place. We went to
Speaker 4: Kabo a bunch, but you know, we would go for
Speaker 4: New Year's and he just loved be on the beach
Speaker 4: with his cigar and you know, ordering fish tacos and yeah,
Speaker 4: having you know, a margarita on the beach, and it
Speaker 4: was just unlucky.
Speaker 1: He needed that, Like, he didn't relax very often, so
Speaker 1: he needed a to decompress like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, But then we would also have we would
Speaker 4: go to Vegas a lot too. And you know a
Speaker 4: lot of people didn't understand that Bob, even when he
Speaker 4: was sixty sixty plus, Like he he'd be the one
Speaker 4: that like, let's go to a show and then let's
Speaker 4: go to spancy dinner, and let's go to a nightclub
Speaker 4: and get a bottle of champagne out at a nightclub
Speaker 4: and then he'd end up in the DJ booth with
Speaker 4: like tea pain or something, and you know, I'm like,
Speaker 4: who is this guy? Like how does he have more
Speaker 4: energy than I do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And I'm like, how is he the one wanting
Speaker 4: to stay out and party all night? And I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's midnight, we go home, you know, right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I'm done now, yea.
Speaker 4: Yeah. He was not your typical, you know, sixty year old.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: He Bob loved life. He really every little bit of it.
Speaker 5: He wanted to try it and experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 5: I always love that about it.
Speaker 4: As we found out, you know, life is short and
Speaker 4: you got to live it to its fullest. And that's
Speaker 4: the one, well not the one, but like one big
Speaker 4: thing that you know, I've learned from this and why
Speaker 4: I feel at peace was that he lived so much.
Speaker 4: He lived a thousand lifetimes in his sixty years.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're coming up on the two year
Speaker 1: anniversary in a few weeks. What is this time of
Speaker 1: year like for you or do you feel that weird
Speaker 1: like anticipation of that date or do you struggle? Do
Speaker 1: you just kind of stay busy and put it out
Speaker 1: of your mind, what's in your head space right now.
Speaker 4: We'll keep in mind this year, the two year anniversary
Speaker 4: is going to be very different than the one year.
Speaker 4: You know, the one year was really really hard because
Speaker 4: when you get to that year mark of being like, oh,
Speaker 4: now it's been a whole year that he hasn't been
Speaker 4: in like when you write because he passed January twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two and we got to twenty two, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: here's a year that, yeah, we see him, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And obviously two years you've processed a
Speaker 4: lot and you've gone through a lot. It's you know,
Speaker 4: you're in a much better place.
Speaker 5: Than you one the time heals everything right.
Speaker 4: And the twelve month mark was very different than the
Speaker 4: six month mark. It's a three month mark, so it
Speaker 4: was very very The one year mark was really really
Speaker 4: gut wrenching and very difficult.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I've gone to visit him a bunch, which is nice,
Speaker 4: and I think I did either on the anniversary or
Speaker 4: within a day or two last year, and I'll do
Speaker 4: the same this year. But yeah, it's I think this
Speaker 4: this year will be definitely easier. But it's you know
Speaker 4: that January ninth, as well as you know, his birthday
Speaker 4: or just two days that are just very weird. But yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, each one's always going to get a little
Speaker 4: bit easier and a little bit different. You have a
Speaker 4: different perspective.
Speaker 2: I think you just get more used to this new
Speaker 2: normal too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it I don't know if it
Speaker 1: ever gets easier, but you just kind of get used
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel anyways, when I process my own
Speaker 1: grief around Bob.
Speaker 3: Sort of the acute, the acute grief of it turns
Speaker 3: into and a grief that always exists, but maybe it
Speaker 3: doesn't stab quite the same way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I it's interesting. I can easily when I go
Speaker 4: back to that day, you know, and Jodie, like you
Speaker 4: were there within like that first hour. Pretty much like
Speaker 4: when I go back to that day, I can easily
Speaker 4: feel just as much pain and you know, torment and
Speaker 4: trauma as I did two years ago. So I can
Speaker 4: be easily transported back to that really like got wrenching,
Speaker 4: horrific time, but normal day, like you know, during my
Speaker 4: normal life. Whatever. It's you know, obviously much better and
Speaker 4: much easier now than it was two years ago. But
Speaker 4: I'm at a place now where I can, for the
Speaker 4: most part, like look at a picture, watch a video
Speaker 4: and smile and have like happy primories of it and
Speaker 4: like actually enjoy that versus you know, those first let's say,
Speaker 4: six months, I would do it all. I never shied
Speaker 4: away from it. I always would still watch the videos
Speaker 4: and look at the pictures and always.
Speaker 5: Relive the feelings.
Speaker 4: But it was really really, really really hard, like you
Speaker 4: couldn't do it without sobbing uncontrollably. I still did it,
Speaker 4: But now I can do it and smile and laugh
Speaker 4: and enjoy it more. But still Like the other day,
Speaker 4: I UH was watching one of his podcasts with Rabbi Leader,
Speaker 4: who you know did his uh his funeral, and he
Speaker 4: had had him on his podcast one year to the
Speaker 4: day before he passed, which was kind of interesting.
Speaker 5: Wow, and.
Speaker 4: The way he was signing off with him, he was like,
Speaker 4: I love you. You know, you always got to tell
Speaker 4: people you love them. And then he was also talking
Speaker 4: about grief, and it's so interesting to hear Bob give
Speaker 4: advice on how to help people grieve because he was
Speaker 4: such a professional at that. But then looking back, right,
Speaker 4: so weird to hear him talk about grief, like in
Speaker 4: the moment, and.
Speaker 5: And he had I mean, Bob had a lot of grief.
Speaker 4: A lot of you know, watch so much death in
Speaker 4: his life. And yeah, but looking back to hear him talk,
Speaker 4: I remember, I just I watched this podcast. I didn't
Speaker 4: think it was going to make me lose it, but
Speaker 4: I just I just lost it. And I just started,
Speaker 4: this was just a few days ago, just started, you know,
Speaker 4: bawling uncontrollably. Because certain things, you know, like you can
Speaker 4: be a moment, like be a little disconnected from it,
Speaker 4: and then certain things just like bring you right back. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it never really you know, you can go back to
Speaker 4: that moment at any time.
Speaker 3: What I learned from Bob a big lesson about grief
Speaker 3: is that you can laugh in the midst of grief,
Speaker 3: and you can find connection and joy in the midst
Speaker 3: of grief, and that that's okay. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 3: remember I watched him go through all everything with his sisters,
Speaker 3: and you know, I just I just all that was
Speaker 3: something that really stuck with me because I think, like
Speaker 3: my family was, grief was a little more like a
Speaker 3: sort of sacrisanct, you didn't, you know, And and grief
Speaker 3: to me was something I had. I was like, there's
Speaker 3: there's a different way I have to process this, and
Speaker 3: watching him, like I always, you know, I always think
Speaker 3: now when I make an inappropriate joke at a really
Speaker 3: terrible time, that it's the best way I know how
Speaker 3: to cope with things, and that I remember watching him
Speaker 3: do that and it was like okay, and.
Speaker 4: That Bob would be sanctioning it because.
Speaker 3: He well, for sure, and I'm pretty sure I was
Speaker 3: making in appropriate jokes from the get go, and because
Speaker 3: I was like, if someone's gonna have to make.
Speaker 5: A really bad joke, im, I'll volunteers tribute.
Speaker 4: So we all learned that from him, you know. I
Speaker 4: remember when I first met him and he would make
Speaker 4: certain jokes, even about his sister. I was like, how
Speaker 4: can you see it? And then when you start to learn,
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, that's a coping mechanism and actually it's
Speaker 4: okay to laugh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahes that are dark, Yeah, yeah, it takes the
Speaker 3: air out of it a little bit. And so I
Speaker 3: mean that was so much of what Bob did and
Speaker 3: being around, you know, at the time of his passing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember walking up the driveway and I think John
Speaker 3: Mayer was the first person I saw and hugged, and
Speaker 3: you know, everybody was there, but seeing so many of
Speaker 3: his comedian friends also using humor and telling those funny
Speaker 3: stories and things, I just like, I think all of
Speaker 3: our biggest regret was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob would love to see this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would love to see all of the attention
Speaker 3: he's getting and all the funny stories and the you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank God for all the comedian friends. I mean,
Speaker 4: that was such I mean, I can't imagine having gone
Speaker 4: through that and not have the support of all these
Speaker 4: people who even I mean not only just because they
Speaker 4: would make the jokes and bring some levity.
Speaker 5: To the situation, but just beloved him.
Speaker 4: That community is just so tight and they just loved
Speaker 4: him so much, you know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was a it was a beautiful thing
Speaker 5: to watch.
Speaker 2: Really, Kelly. One of the things I appreciate most about you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever told you this, but
Speaker 1: throughout the last two years, including like immediately after Bob passed,
Speaker 1: and I would text you, you are so giving to us,
Speaker 1: like you'd be anytime I'd be like checking in on you, like, Kelly,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Like what's going you know, You're like,
Speaker 1: you would immediately turn the conversation back to me and
Speaker 1: talk to me about how much Bob loved me and
Speaker 1: how much I meant to him, And like for you
Speaker 1: to be able to do that in the days following
Speaker 1: his passing and then throughout the last two years, like
Speaker 1: that's just extraordinarily giving to be able to put your
Speaker 1: own grief aside and focus on us and our grief.
Speaker 1: It's just I feel like Bob is speaking through you.
Speaker 1: It's just been a beautiful gift to me. So thank
Speaker 1: you for that.
Speaker 4: Thank you for saying that, because to me, that was
Speaker 4: always from day one. I remember that day I realized,
Speaker 4: even and like the worst day of my entire life,
Speaker 4: that somehow that felt really. I mean, I remember when
Speaker 4: people showed up at the house on January ninth, the
Speaker 4: first thing I wanted to say was like, he loved
Speaker 4: you so much, And for some reason, it was like
Speaker 4: it brought some sort of peace, joy, I mean something.
Speaker 4: It just felt. It was very feeling to me to
Speaker 4: be able to say that because I knew that that
Speaker 4: was true, and I would be like, and he wasn't
Speaker 4: here to say it, and so I'm like, I'm if
Speaker 4: I can at least pass on that message for him,
Speaker 4: like I knew it, as you said, like he was
Speaker 4: almost saying it through me. And to this day when
Speaker 4: I see people who I knew he loved or appreciated
Speaker 4: their work or like whatever it was, it makes me
Speaker 4: so happy to say that. I remember I saw the
Speaker 4: other day, like I was at Norman Lee or Shiva,
Speaker 4: and I saw an actor that I knew Bob loved
Speaker 4: and I'd never met him before, but I knew that
Speaker 4: Bob thought he was really funny and loved his work.
Speaker 4: And I told him, I said, by the way, Bob
Speaker 4: loved you and thought you were hilarious, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for telling me. Like that means
Speaker 4: so much. And just to you know, see people's reaction
Speaker 4: when they found out that Bob Saget loved them, right,
Speaker 4: you know, it was a very special thing. And to
Speaker 4: be able to kind of be that conduit just you know,
Speaker 4: has brought me a lot of kind of peace and
Speaker 4: joy amidst the smorrow. So thank you Andrewa for saying that,
Speaker 4: because from day one, that's just always has been very
Speaker 4: something that I knew I feel very compelled to do.
Speaker 4: But it also I know would make him like there
Speaker 4: have been times where I remember one time and you know, sorry,
Speaker 4: this is Bob like to drop, you know, be name
Speaker 4: dropping too, but okay's work. And I saw like Keenan
Speaker 4: Thompson and I and I felt this like weird compul
Speaker 4: I'm like, I have to go tell him that Bob
Speaker 4: loved him because Bob right, I was like, I have
Speaker 4: to do it. I literally heard Bob and I had
Speaker 4: like get up and go to him, and I did it,
Speaker 4: and he was like, oh, oh my god, thank you
Speaker 4: for saying that, you know, And because when I get
Speaker 4: that reaction, like, how can I not keep telling people?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: So well?
Speaker 3: And Bob was the person who always told everybody how
Speaker 3: much he loved him, and he was the one that
Speaker 3: would go and be like, I love what you did.
Speaker 3: You're just great, like so complimentary and always so genuine.
Speaker 3: So I yeah, you're just carrying on his legacy of
Speaker 3: keeping that going.
Speaker 4: What a blessing to even be able to attempt to
Speaker 4: do that, you know, so thank you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: When Norman Lee are passed recently, one of my first
Speaker 3: thoughts was that he and Bob are sharing cigar and
Speaker 3: playing poker or something.
Speaker 4: Scotch, fancy food and a vodka martini and yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: doing that together.
Speaker 5: Indeed, Oh man, such a walk down memory lane.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: So, Kelly, you've started a new podcast, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: is now my new favorite podcast called comfort Food, and
Speaker 1: it's all about grief and talking to people who have
Speaker 1: been through it, and I want to hear more about it.
Speaker 1: But I just have to tell you this is such
Speaker 1: a great podcast. It's so cathartic to listen to people
Speaker 1: talk so openly and honestly about their grief process because
Speaker 1: it's something people don't talk about so openly and honestly.
Speaker 1: So I'm loving it.
Speaker 5: And we so should. It's so important, this.
Speaker 4: Strangely taboo thing. And so I was like, how can
Speaker 4: I make it more approachable? Because I'm no expert by
Speaker 4: any means, but like, how can I make it more
Speaker 4: approachable and a little bit lighter, you know, to talk
Speaker 4: about these things? And so, you know, I'm having on
Speaker 4: wonderful people, and I cannot wait to have both of
Speaker 4: you on, of course, because you have been both have
Speaker 4: been through this, and I mean, I know you both
Speaker 4: have such unique and interesting stories that people can learn
Speaker 4: from of what you each have gone through. And it's
Speaker 4: not just grief, I mean, because I know you both
Speaker 4: experienced that, but just difficult times in general. I mean,
Speaker 4: some people have, you know, whether it's a divorce or
Speaker 4: a loss of a loved one or some sort of
Speaker 4: you know, addiction or like something that people have overcome
Speaker 4: that while they're talking about this is difficult time in
Speaker 4: their life, we're eating my guests favorite comfort food, so
Speaker 4: you know, we're eating their favorite comfort food to make
Speaker 4: this conversation a little bit more happy, a little bit
Speaker 4: more light, and to help people who have been through
Speaker 4: that type of thing. So you know, it's a lot
Speaker 4: of them are comedians that I'm having on and some
Speaker 4: people are people who like, for instance, I had Jojo
Speaker 4: Siwa on on her episode so Soon, and she's twenty
Speaker 4: years old. People are like, what has she gone through?
Speaker 4: It's like she has still been through some difficult things
Speaker 4: that the way she's processed it people can learn from
Speaker 4: even though she's only twenty, you know. So and then
Speaker 4: whether it's you know John Stamos or John Mayer or
Speaker 4: you know Katie Kuric who lost her husband at the
Speaker 4: same age that I was, I mean, everyone has such
Speaker 4: an interesting perspective, and I just want to have these
Speaker 4: conversations with people that it's not like doom and gloom
Speaker 4: and yeah bad, But how can we make it? You know,
Speaker 4: how do we talk about it more?
Speaker 5: How do we I just had Jeff.
Speaker 4: Ross on and he loved Jeff, he said, I mean,
Speaker 4: he's the best. And of course his comfort food his
Speaker 4: episode hasn't come out yet, but his comfort food was
Speaker 4: a b fribs and pastrami, because that's what he loved
Speaker 4: you with, Bob and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after I was going to say, it's something from
Speaker 3: a deli, yeah.
Speaker 4: He said, he goes. You know, I thought that was
Speaker 4: going to be sad, but it was really happy and
Speaker 4: really fun and it was actually fun. So I hope
Speaker 4: that that's what this can do. So, Andrew, I thank
Speaker 4: you for saying that it's your new favorite. That means
Speaker 4: so much, But it is.
Speaker 2: I can't wait every Sunday night, I'm like, Oh, who's
Speaker 2: on next? I can't wait to see your upcoming guests
Speaker 2: because it's always just a wonderful bright spot in my week.
Speaker 4: What a what a compliment. But yeah, so you can.
Speaker 3: Let your audience know that you guys will Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I can't wait I'm looking for that reminds me I
Speaker 3: need to text.
Speaker 5: You back, and I figure that day.
Speaker 4: Both have such incredible stories that can really you know
Speaker 4: that you probably don't get an opportunity to talk about
Speaker 4: that side of things very often, especially in a way
Speaker 4: that's not going to be a freaking bummer.
Speaker 2: Right right, and you you handle that balance.
Speaker 1: You strike that balance so well between getting deep into
Speaker 1: a conversation but keep yeah, not being depressing and keeping
Speaker 1: it lighthearted.
Speaker 2: So you're the perfect host for that.
Speaker 4: Thank you well. And it's it's interesting because on that
Speaker 4: podcast I told you that I listened to of Bob's
Speaker 4: when he was with talking to Steve Leader. Bob said,
Speaker 4: he goes, you know, talking about grief. He said, one
Speaker 4: thing that always got me through grief, he goes is
Speaker 4: comfort food. And he starts talking about comfort I'm like
Speaker 4: it was almost this and I once again, I hadn't
Speaker 4: heard this until I listened to it the other day,
Speaker 4: and I was like, Bob was like giving me his
Speaker 4: blessing over my podcast, you know, because like hearing him
Speaker 4: say that that right, that was something that was their grief.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, all right, thanks for sanctioning
Speaker 4: my my podcast. The title of my podcast, Bob. Yeah. Anyway, Well,
Speaker 4: thank you guys, and I can't wait to have you
Speaker 4: guys on.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I can't wait to I can't wait
Speaker 3: to be on now. One of the things that you
Speaker 3: did is speaking of Jojo see what was your or
Speaker 3: special Forces, I think, which I would love to hear
Speaker 3: about as someone who also has done a crazy live
Speaker 3: in the jungle competition type show, I would love to
Speaker 3: hear what special Forces looked terrifying for you and what
Speaker 3: made you want to do it.
Speaker 4: It looked awesome because it was the best and worst
Speaker 4: thing I'd ever done in my life at the same time, right,
Speaker 4: So what made me want to do it is I've
Speaker 4: always been obsessed with, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 4: say obsessed with in awe of the military Special Forces,
Speaker 4: Navy Seals like I loved g I Jane, and I
Speaker 4: remember watching that like as a teenager, being like, if
Speaker 4: I ever have the chance to do that one day,
Speaker 4: like I'm doing that right, And so to be able
Speaker 4: to even have the opportunity to live in this life
Speaker 4: for even a day and be trained by the most
Speaker 4: elite special forces in the world, I'm like, how do
Speaker 4: you pass that up. And you know, I've been getting
Speaker 4: in decent shape and I'm like, all right, physically, I
Speaker 4: think I might be up to this challenge. And then
Speaker 4: emotionally people have been telling me for the past year
Speaker 4: and a half. They're at the time, they're like, you're
Speaker 4: so strong, You're so strong, and I was like, this
Speaker 4: is a mental game, so like how strong am I?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 4: Let's put it to the test. So that's why I
Speaker 4: wanted to do it. And you know it was in
Speaker 4: New Zealand and June, but it was winter went to
Speaker 4: which I hate the cold.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it gets cold in New Zealand.
Speaker 4: The hardest part besides just being on edge the whole
Speaker 4: time because you never know, like they don't tell you.
Speaker 4: It's not like you get an itinerary of like this
Speaker 4: is what you're right right right. You have no idea
Speaker 4: what's coming, and you're sleeping in a room starting with
Speaker 4: you know, those fourteen people total, and you're next to
Speaker 4: people who are snoring, and you're on these army cots.
Speaker 4: There's no you know, you don't have like a mattress
Speaker 4: or blankets or anything. It's bare bones. You eat when
Speaker 4: they tell you to eat, if you don't eat, then
Speaker 4: you don't eat that day. You know, it's not like
Speaker 4: there's craft services when the cameras stop rolling. That's not
Speaker 4: how it works.
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, no.
Speaker 4: And it was so intense. I wasn't sleeping. I was
Speaker 4: in you know, physically kind of tortured. But it was
Speaker 4: also the coolest bonding experience with these other people and
Speaker 4: just such an amazing overall experience to be able to
Speaker 4: actually work with Navy Seals and British Special Forces and
Speaker 4: be like wow, even though it was only for four
Speaker 4: days and they have to do it for years and years,
Speaker 4: I got to live.
Speaker 1: And so what was harder the mental aspect or the
Speaker 1: physical aspect? If you had to name just one.
Speaker 4: You know what it was, people would say, it's like,
Speaker 4: you can overcome the physical, But that's what ended. I
Speaker 4: knew what would get to me. I knew that mentally,
Speaker 4: I think I was going to be able to hang.
Speaker 4: It was the endurance stuff. I knew that one of
Speaker 4: those endurance challenges is what was going to get me.
Speaker 4: And yes, mentally, can you push through it, But when
Speaker 4: your knees are like I was, I was scared. I
Speaker 4: thought I was doing permanent damage to my knees in
Speaker 4: my back where I'm like, you get to the point
Speaker 4: where you're like, is this this worth permanent damage? And
Speaker 4: when you're emotionally exhausted and physically because you're not sleeping,
Speaker 4: and then your body's literally breaking down. And I had
Speaker 4: to carry I don't know if you guys saw, I
Speaker 4: had to carry like this five hundred pounds zodiac maybe
Speaker 4: seal boat over two miles through a field with three
Speaker 4: other people who one is an Olympic gold medal speed
Speaker 4: skater who her legs are like right since she was
Speaker 4: not having the problems I was, and then Tyler Cameron,
Speaker 4: who's a human, and then Tom Sandalball who's also an
Speaker 4: incredible shape and I'm older by far than all of them,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm sorry, my body can't do
Speaker 4: it anymore. And that's I said. I would not give
Speaker 4: up unless I was injured or my body just gave out,
Speaker 4: and that's what happened. So I kept my promise to myself.
Speaker 1: Impressive, very very import did you become closest to during
Speaker 1: that experience? Imagine you bonded with everyone, But who did
Speaker 1: you take away from this experience as like some of
Speaker 1: your closest buddies.
Speaker 4: Uh, probably Jack Osborne. He was such a sense of
Speaker 4: like calm while we were there. He was so great
Speaker 4: and so funny.
Speaker 5: Husband's friends with Jack.
Speaker 4: He's just wonderful, good kid, and yeah, he's just wonderful.
Speaker 4: And Jojo, she was like the cheerleader of the group.
Speaker 4: She was always so positive and was so helpful and
Speaker 4: just really wanted to help everybody. She was just so wonderful.
Speaker 4: Body Miller.
Speaker 3: Another Jojo texted me before you guys went out, and
Speaker 3: she was like, so, I like, I hear you know,
Speaker 3: I'm doing this Special Forces thing with Kelly.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, You're gonna love Kelly.
Speaker 2: She's amazing, She's the best.
Speaker 4: Like it's yeah, yeah, you know, I absolutely adore her
Speaker 4: and she's but I mean, really, all of them I've
Speaker 4: I've you know, kind of formed a bond with where
Speaker 4: I could feel like I could see any of them
Speaker 4: now and be like, oh, I love you miss yeah
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that trauma bond of going of existing with people
Speaker 3: physical challenges and living in the you know, desert or
Speaker 3: cots or jungles or whatever.
Speaker 4: It is no joke.
Speaker 5: We survived death.
Speaker 4: For anyone who questions the legit, like how real? It
Speaker 4: was no joke. It was very real.
Speaker 3: Yeah. People are always like, oh, you do those and
Speaker 3: then you're going you're like, no, no, we were.
Speaker 2: We were.
Speaker 3: We were sleeping outside. We were it was all yeah,
Speaker 3: we didn't have to sleep.
Speaker 4: I say, yeah, we were outside.
Speaker 3: Oh no, we were outside on bamboo like tied together
Speaker 3: like hard things of bamboo. We had to go to
Speaker 3: the bathroom outside in the out in the outdoor, yeah,
Speaker 3: pouring down monsoon rain every single night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's worse. But our bathrooms were outside.
Speaker 5: I don't think I was ever dry for like two weeks.
Speaker 4: Were you But were you warm? Was it warm?
Speaker 5: It was disgusting.
Speaker 3: I mean we were in the jungle rainforest of Panama,
Speaker 3: so it was you were never not sweaty.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I still feel like but.
Speaker 3: It was like at night it would get kind of
Speaker 3: chilly with the winds and stuff, but not not cold cold.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: But I would have a meltdown every day trying to
Speaker 3: just pull likecra leggings onto my sweaty and damp body
Speaker 3: that would never fully dry off. And that was every day.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is the thing that's gonna kill me.
Speaker 3: I'll do running, jumping, swimming bike, but putting on these
Speaker 3: leggings every night, it was yeah.
Speaker 4: You win. And plus there, I'm sure there were bugs
Speaker 4: there so that I would have checked out.
Speaker 5: Oh my good bugs.
Speaker 3: We had snakes, we had spider wolf, giant things, we
Speaker 3: had we had monk, howler monkeys that are the most
Speaker 3: terrifying thing. If you've never heard a howler monkeys scream
Speaker 3: three feet behind your open little shack that you're sleeping
Speaker 3: in and like bear it.
Speaker 5: Yeah it was lot.
Speaker 2: Did you do Special Forces again? If they had an
Speaker 2: All Star thousand percent?
Speaker 4: You would do it a thousand percent. Wow, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: a thousand percent. I want to redeem myself. Jack and
Speaker 4: I always said we're like if a van pulled up
Speaker 4: right now and just said get in, I was like,
Speaker 4: get in, no hesitation, no hesitation.
Speaker 2: I'm impressed knowing what I know.
Speaker 4: Now going like, I'm like, all right, maybe I don't
Speaker 4: know if I could get to the end because those
Speaker 4: physical challenges are so but I'm like, I would I'd
Speaker 4: go farther.
Speaker 1: What country would you pick if you had to design
Speaker 1: the next Special Forces All Star cast edition?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: God, are warm somewhere?
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the Foreman, all it's cracked up
Speaker 3: to be either though, so it's not.
Speaker 4: I would go somewhere like temperate, you know, not too hot,
Speaker 4: not too cold. Uh, you know, maybe like Northern Australia
Speaker 4: or something where it's.
Speaker 3: But everything in Australia is remember that everything in Australia
Speaker 3: New Zealand.
Speaker 5: It was the animals, the trees, all of it. Just
Speaker 5: it's all trying to.
Speaker 4: We had no creatures or critters, no bugs. And it
Speaker 4: wasn't that. I mean, it was like in the thirties forties,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't like okay, you know Chicago.
Speaker 3: All right, Well I'm going to get a van and
Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna roll up to your house and
Speaker 3: just be like get in and then who knows where
Speaker 3: we're going Northern Australia.
Speaker 4: If you just pull up next to you in a
Speaker 4: white vand and say get in, get in, I will
Speaker 4: get in there, no questions asked. I will get in
Speaker 4: that vands.
Speaker 3: Since Childhood and Stranger Danger, right right, Stranger Danger or
Speaker 3: reality show. Right, Yeah, that's what that's actually the name
Speaker 3: of the new show, Stranger Danger or Reality Show. And
Speaker 3: it's just vans pulling up next to people. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: like you either get in a van and it's just
Speaker 3: some random person, or you get in and it's a
Speaker 3: really cool reality show trip that you're going on, but
Speaker 3: you don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, takes a chance. I'm in.
Speaker 2: Well, we would love to play this rapid fire Bob
Speaker 2: edition questions. Oh my god, are you up for a
Speaker 2: little game here?
Speaker 4: Of course?
Speaker 3: To Okay, So everything depends on this, you know this everything.
Speaker 5: It's like we tear your games.
Speaker 1: And and so it's all about Bob. So you have
Speaker 1: to answer questions like your Bob or just about Bob.
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, ready, Well.
Speaker 3: If she answers like she's Bob, each answer is going
Speaker 3: to be seven.
Speaker 4: Okay, I will not.
Speaker 2: I will not do a rapid fire answer like Kelly.
Speaker 2: But like it's all about Bob, so okay. Bob's weirdest habit,
Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
Speaker 4: He he would have a huge I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: know if it was weird, but it was his thing
Speaker 4: that like every night he would have a huge, massive
Speaker 4: bowl of ice cream and like you could not get
Speaker 4: him to not do that. And if I'd try to
Speaker 4: get a smaller bowl, he would get really mad at
Speaker 4: Me'd be like, I'm not in a nursing home, and
Speaker 4: he wanted fire pint or even more than a pint
Speaker 4: every single night.
Speaker 2: What flavor ice cream?
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, anything like chocolate, chocolate, chick rock we got it?
Speaker 4: Like yeah, anything kind of choka.
Speaker 2: Best his best quality as a husband.
Speaker 4: He was so thoughtful, just so thoughtful. Everything was like
Speaker 4: making sure that I was okay all the time.
Speaker 2: Hm M. Best best quality as a father.
Speaker 4: Probably the same thing. He was just not only just
Speaker 4: always making sure that his girls were always okay and
Speaker 4: had everything that they needed, but he was also such
Speaker 4: a good dab but also their best friend too.
Speaker 2: What was Bob's biggest pet?
Speaker 4: Peeve liars? Okay, he hated. He always wanted the truth.
Speaker 2: I admire that favorite home cooked meal.
Speaker 4: He loved when I made my Italian chili.
Speaker 5: Love that.
Speaker 4: He also loved when I made stir fry stuff. But
Speaker 4: he really really loved my Italian chili, and that was
Speaker 4: what he started to really ask for a lot.
Speaker 5: I'm intrigued by Italian chili.
Speaker 4: I'm making it this week for THEOL your are out delicious?
Speaker 2: Stand up or acting?
Speaker 4: What was his Did he have a preference stand up?
Speaker 5: Stand up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What was his biggest Danny Tanner like quality.
Speaker 4: He was a clean freak. Really, it was the most
Speaker 4: accurate thing. Well the hugs and the clean.
Speaker 5: And the hugs right, but truly truly.
Speaker 4: A clean freak. And he would go around the house
Speaker 4: sometimes like dust busting. He'd be like, look, I'm really
Speaker 4: Danny Tanner. He would say it, love it.
Speaker 1: Favorite cast member of Full House. You don't have to
Speaker 1: answer that. It's impossible.
Speaker 4: That's impossible. That's I'm trying to think. Is there like
Speaker 4: an ancillary one that was like in one episode?
Speaker 5: But yeah, I always preferred the dog. No, you know
Speaker 5: what he would say, Pepper Mill.
Speaker 3: Oh, the donkey, donkey, the donkey and the donkey that
Speaker 3: love John. That's that's would be his. That would be
Speaker 3: his favorite Full House cast member of cannon or Cannonball Cannonball.
Speaker 3: Cannon Ball would be yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Bob would say, Nicky and Alex, right, come up.
Speaker 3: With all the ridiculous people that Yeah, that Bob would
Speaker 3: actually say.
Speaker 4: Well that was fun, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kelly, thank you so much for joining us. I
Speaker 3: am this such a great it's such a great interview.
Speaker 3: We loved hearing all your things about Bob and just
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you're a part of our family
Speaker 3: and part of the extended family. Now you have inherited us,
Speaker 3: and uh, there's no leaving us now. Now I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna have to follow you in a white van wherever
Speaker 3: you go.
Speaker 4: So I'm just so grateful, and I'm so grateful for
Speaker 4: all of you, but I'm so grateful for the two
Speaker 4: of you, especially. You have been so accepting and loving
Speaker 4: and kind to me since day one. And I truly
Speaker 4: truly feel and I say this all the time. I've
Speaker 4: said it in so many interviews, I've said it to
Speaker 4: so many people that I've really felt a part of
Speaker 4: your family. And I truly know that you have been
Speaker 4: there for me and will continue to be there for me,
Speaker 4: and vice versa. I hope you know that you that
Speaker 4: you know the same, and it's just very special. I
Speaker 4: love you both so much, so thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh we love you so much. Kelly, you are are.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to kidnap both of you and then
Speaker 4: have you on comfort food and see yeah, and feed
Speaker 4: you guys, to feed you by.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think about what food, what's my come from?
Speaker 4: Like this is a this is a big thing. You
Speaker 4: have to think about your comfort food and then we
Speaker 4: will have it for you. Cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, so cool?
Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you so much Kelly for joining us.
Speaker 3: And uh and if you guys want to follow us
Speaker 3: on Instagram, you can follow us at how Rude Podcast
Speaker 3: or you can send us an email at how Rude
Speaker 3: podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 5: And remember, you, guys, the world is small.
Speaker 4: The house is full.