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Speaker 1: The season aftermath is beginning today Locker room clean out day.

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Speaker 1: talk NFL Draft tonight. That's what we're talking. Pete, what's up?

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Speaker 1: I like talking NFL Draft. Tony hates it. I like

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Speaker 1: this year, Pete, I've been pushed back at all. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you've been much better. If you're a realist. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: There are reports today that there are meeting scheduled tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Didn't they spend time together last Friday? It's some dinner.

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Speaker 1: I've heard and was told, I think this deal is

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Speaker 1: much more likely to get done now that Tom's gone.

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Speaker 1: How much would you pay him? That's a tough one, tony,

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Speaker 1: because that's that's the one. Look, am I paying him.

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Speaker 1: He turned down. He had a better year than DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Lawrence did. Okay, Pete, he has yeah, he turned down

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Speaker 1: nineteen million in the last two years. He has a

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Speaker 1: total of seventeen sacks. Or you have nine last year

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Speaker 1: and nine and a a half I know you eighth this year. Um,

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Speaker 1: So he had seventeen seventeen and a half sacks in

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Speaker 1: two years. He is identity, He's a he's a splash player.

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Speaker 1: He is a guy who plays his tail off. He's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's the perfect guy as far as taking

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Speaker 1: care of his business. You want him in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: He had nine and a half last year, eight this year.

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Speaker 1: So seventeen a half sacks and two years. Are you

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Speaker 1: paying twenty million plus for that? Pete? For an average

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Speaker 1: of so he's he's how many he has thirty seven

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Speaker 1: total sacks? I think it is seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: So over four years he's averaging under tenure, under ten

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Speaker 1: s accident year. And that's what he is. He's a

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Speaker 1: pass rusher. It's not I mean, he he is. He

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Speaker 1: played the run better this year, without a doubt, But

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's not that's not where he's that's

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Speaker 1: not his strength. So for and so for nine and

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Speaker 1: basically he's averaging nine and a half sacks a year

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Speaker 1: over four years. Are you paying twenty he turned down nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I've already wants twenty one. Are you paying that? Let's

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Speaker 1: put it this way. De Marcus Lawrence just got it

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Speaker 1: last year and he has fifteen and a half sacks

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Speaker 1: in the last two years, including five this year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: In the last three years he has twenty four and

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Speaker 1: five twenty nine. Frank Clark has twenty one in the

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Speaker 1: last two years, and he got it. Now are they

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Speaker 1: better run players than he is? Pray Clark is for sure. Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'd say de Marcus Lawrence is too. But when

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Speaker 1: you pay a guy like that, you're not paying him

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Speaker 1: for his run defense. You know that, So you pay

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Speaker 1: him twenty one? I b I almost think it's one

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Speaker 1: of those you're damned if you do and damned if

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Speaker 1: you don't. I'm asking you, Pete, Mr wanna be I

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Speaker 1: tag him. I would tag him and the tag on

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Speaker 1: the tags go to seventeen this year, I tag him

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Speaker 1: and then see what he does and then if he

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Speaker 1: goes out and has because he took a while to

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Speaker 1: get going this year, that could easily been double digit side.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't he hurt early in the season for about the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he was also hurt like he wasn't the same

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Speaker 1: guy earlier in the season. You can see that, So

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Speaker 1: that could easily have been ten ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're pere leading towards paying Hi. Here's why, Tony,

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Speaker 1: I think when you come to the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know this as well as anybody.

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Speaker 1: You got one guy over here you can rush the

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Speaker 1: pastor you've got another guy over here can rush the pastor.

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Speaker 1: That's a foundation for your defense. That gives you in

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Speaker 1: the current NFL, gives you the ability to go chase

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Speaker 1: down quarterbacks. If you get rid of him, then everything

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Speaker 1: becomes all about Alan and you don't have to you

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Speaker 1: have one. Now, could you find one in the draft? Maybe,

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Speaker 1: but aren't you better off bringing him back on a

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Speaker 1: tag or getting a deal done to have an Alan

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Speaker 1: in there? Then you maybe you get Klais on a

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Speaker 1: cheap deal or a cheaper deal, and then you go

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Speaker 1: draft Derek Brown from Auburn put him inside. David Bryant's

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Speaker 1: actually played well the last month and he was pretty

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Speaker 1: good yesterday just from the TV taper looked like, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to break it to you, but Derek Brown

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Speaker 1: is not gonna be there at nine. He might be.

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Speaker 1: He might be tony. I mean he might be. And

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Speaker 1: then and then you can get or if you take

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman there, come back into defensive lineman at

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Speaker 1: the top at the at the next pick. The bottom

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Speaker 1: line is, I think if you can get a big

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Speaker 1: power inside player to go with that group, you have

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Speaker 1: the foundation of a heck of a front, and I

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Speaker 1: think they need that. So I'm thinking I would be

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Speaker 1: concerned if I let that lead the building. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: go get sixteen seventeen sacks somewhere else on a then

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Speaker 1: maybe sixteen and twelve with thirteen on a consistent basis.

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Speaker 1: That would be my concerned. What if he doesn't sign

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Speaker 1: the tender, well, then he's then he's getting bad advice.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna make any money right right then. The

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Speaker 1: bottom line is you're a year, an earning year is

510
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Speaker 1: going off your body. You only have so many left

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Speaker 1: in him. Uh, he would sign it. So the one

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Speaker 1: thing is, if I'm bringing him back, I'm tagging him

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Speaker 1: and trying I'm trying to work out a deal. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tag him. Um, because if you tag him,

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Speaker 1: the other thing is if you struggle to get a

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Speaker 1: deal done, you can trade him the what could you

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Speaker 1: get for him? In theory, Well, they got a one

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Speaker 1: for Frank Clark, You're not getting one for him, but

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Speaker 1: you might get a team and desperate team and in

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Speaker 1: need that takes its close of a pass rush year.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Frank Clark's better? Uh? Unique, he's yes,

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Speaker 1: just this year. He probably hasn't because he's been hurt

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Speaker 1: all year. But I think healthy he's a little bit

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Speaker 1: better than him. Yeah. Us. But one thing for sure

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Speaker 1: is if I'm not playing I'm not playing Yahn at

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Speaker 1: defensive end stand up guy when you can play Allen

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Speaker 1: in that position. Do I'm playing him as a sam

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Speaker 1: linebacker in first and second down and then and Nickel,

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Speaker 1: I'll put his hand on the ground, let him rest

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Speaker 1: a passer. I just don't think he's big enough to

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Speaker 1: hold up playing and play out. It's it's not his strength. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He was better this year to play a you know,

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Speaker 1: hand in the ground defensive end line up and on

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Speaker 1: tight on a tight end and a sixth technique just

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Speaker 1: I mean getting double team. I mean that's not his strength.

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Speaker 1: He's not John is not a big man. He's an

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Speaker 1: athletic man. He's a powerful man, but he's not a

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Speaker 1: big guy. What is he? Six one? Yeah? Right right

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Speaker 1: at that So he should be playing or are in

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Speaker 1: the three four principles because you're not really three four.

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Speaker 1: He should be standing up with the other book end

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Speaker 1: standing up on the other side. Let's come back. By

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Speaker 1: the way, j K. In that scenario, you get Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen on the field more than his usual snaps a game.

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Speaker 1: So I'm all for then. I think you gotta play

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Speaker 1: to what you have. Here's the other thing. He's only

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Speaker 1: twenty four now, he's young, young guy. We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back on the quarterback topic. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll try to figure that out. We're gonna figure out

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Speaker 1: number one quarterback position here in Jacksonville. He surprised me

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Speaker 1: yesterday with the way he played. He hadn't been playing

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Speaker 1: like that. So I said something on Twitter, Pete right, No,

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Speaker 1: this morning with Dan and Jeff. They asked me why

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Speaker 1: was the offense so much more dynamic, explosive, And one

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Speaker 1: of the things I said, I said, you know, Leonard

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Speaker 1: Fournette wasn't in there. And Leonard Fournette had a great

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Speaker 1: year this year, great year, fabulous and everything you ask.

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Speaker 1: But it felt like, and if you go look at

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Speaker 1: the first fifteen plays that were scripted, they threw it

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Speaker 1: much more that came out throwing it, moving the pocket,

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Speaker 1: getting to going, and it felt like that they weren't

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Speaker 1: trying to force the offense through Leonard. Now that's not

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Speaker 1: Leonard's fault. He just he does whatever they call. But

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Speaker 1: I I wonder not only D Flippo can answer this.

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Speaker 1: Did d Filippo feel like he had to get Leonard

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Speaker 1: going early in games and because of that, trying to

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Speaker 1: force everything on the ground, everyone knowing that loading the

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Speaker 1: box make it very difficult for Leonard to run the ball,

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Speaker 1: where this week it felt like it was much more

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Speaker 1: opened up. That was just a feeling I had watching

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Speaker 1: the game. It did. It did feel much more opened up.

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Speaker 1: The backs looked because Leonard has had a good year,

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Speaker 1: but the backs looked quicker, more explosive. Is that accurate? Um?

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Speaker 1: I didn't come away thinking they're more explosive or quicker.

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Speaker 1: I came away feeling like I came away feeling like D.

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Speaker 1: Filippo's said, we don't have our star back in there,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna end up spread it out and do

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Speaker 1: some different stuff. That's what it felt like to me.

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Speaker 1: But you didn't think that there was a significant drop

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Speaker 1: off to those backs because I didn't. Um. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in fairness the letter, Now he had seventy six catches

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Speaker 1: and but Armstead caught the ball. He did have the

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Speaker 1: one drop he caught the ball out of the back here.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he did. But I mean Leonard had over

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards. Leonard had a good year. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give him credit. I just don't think there's a significant

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Speaker 1: amount of difference. But I say that about most backs

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Speaker 1: like Armstead played. You think arms had played the same

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Speaker 1: amount of reps that Leonard did. The numbers, he would

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Speaker 1: have had a thout, he would have a thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have seventy catches or

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Speaker 1: whatever Leonard had, but he might have had fifty. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that. I mean it. Backs are

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Speaker 1: so interchangeable. I want to go to go to the

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Speaker 1: Eagles game yesterday. Jordan Howard wasn't playing, Miles Sanders got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Boston Scottland in there and ran wild. They picked them

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Speaker 1: up off the scrap peep. So you're saying, any back

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Speaker 1: and go in there and do it, not any back.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think the difference is that. You don't

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Speaker 1: think there's that big a difference between Christ McCaffrey. And

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Speaker 1: that's different. Now you're talking about a thousand thousand guy.

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Speaker 1: That's a different, entirely different animals. How about the backs

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Speaker 1: in Seattle last night. They can go in anywhere, right,

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, here he comes. How about Marunlynch? About Marshawn Lynch.

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Speaker 1: He came in and rushed for three point under three

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Speaker 1: yards per carry. Meanwhile, the other kid had six that

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Speaker 1: you pick up in the fifth, sixth round is a

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Speaker 1: rookie who was the better back in that game? Marsha

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Speaker 1: Lynch hasn't played football like a year, but he's not

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Speaker 1: a better But everybody's going crazy, Homer was a better

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Speaker 1: player last night. Okay, but that's kind of the point.

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Speaker 1: Those guys that are that are around this time of year,

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Speaker 1: there's a million of them. You know, certainly don't draft

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Speaker 1: one fourth overall. Is there a back in the league

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Speaker 1: today that you draft fourth overall? McCaffrey would be one

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Speaker 1: of them, But even then, I wouldn't the position of

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Speaker 1: the value, The position isn't there. I'm not taking the

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Speaker 1: back of that not if I need what if I needed?

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Speaker 1: If I have a choice between Von Miller and Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: who am I take it? Miller? Okay, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: through every position. Okay, let's do this all right. Quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you're always taking quarterback, Julio Jones, Christian McCaffrey. The way

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Speaker 1: the game is played, I'd rather that Julio, Jon George Kittle,

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Speaker 1: Chris McCarey. That one's tough for me, but I'd probably

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Speaker 1: take McCaffrey, Kelsey or McCaffrey. No tight end, although there

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Speaker 1: aren't a lot of tight ends, so it's tough. It's

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Speaker 1: a tough position to fix. So it's a coin for

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Speaker 1: you there. Yeah, Okay, Lane Johnson right tackle or one

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Speaker 1: of the better I just say, because he's one of

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Speaker 1: the better ones. Or Mitchell Swartz or I take I

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Speaker 1: take the tackle, Zach Zack Martin a right guard, or

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I probably take McCaffrey, r Rodney Hudson at

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Speaker 1: center for the Raiders or any other good centers out there,

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Speaker 1: or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take a center, Quintin Nelson,

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Speaker 1: Quittin Nelson or McCaffrey. I probably take Quittin Nelson. I

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Speaker 1: want my line, I can I can run the ball off.

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Speaker 1: My line is good, Tyrone Smith Smith for sure. Okay, alright,

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Speaker 1: so we went through all those. Uh you already said

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Speaker 1: von miller Um. Aaron Donald Aaron Donald or that's okay,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Bobby, Bobby Wagner or Christian McCaffrey. Bobby Wagoners have

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Speaker 1: played great this year, you know what I'm saying. Darius,

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Speaker 1: Darius Leonard or Christi McCaffrey. Probably take McCaffrey. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore and McCaffrey Gilmore. Who's the best safety in

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Speaker 1: football right now? Durwin James or McCaffrey, Irwin j soy

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Speaker 1: that one's kind of that one's kind of closed safety,

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Speaker 1: kind of close. But the value positions pass rusher, whether

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Speaker 1: he's inside, outside tackle, center a great center, really you know,

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Speaker 1: don't you You know how valuable those guys are. And

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Speaker 1: then the big play receiver. I don't think do you

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Speaker 1: that Michael Thomas or Christian McCaffrey, Michael Thomas. See, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. The only one I might disagree is is

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Speaker 1: the receiver. Because a great running game, who can a

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Speaker 1: guy McCaffrey that can catch it in the backfield? That's tough.

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Speaker 1: If I look at the teams that can't have don't

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Speaker 1: have that re Look at the Patriots, imagine they had

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas on their team. Go look at the teams

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Speaker 1: that can't run the ball, Pete. The teams you can

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Speaker 1: run the ball in the playoffs, they run the ball

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Speaker 1: because their lines are good. All I'm saying is the

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Speaker 1: difference between this running back and one and fifteen. For example,

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Speaker 1: we came into the season thinking David Johnson was a

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Speaker 1: top ten running back. He's not even the number one

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Speaker 1: running back on his own team anymore. He might not

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Speaker 1: be the second running back on his own team anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's That's all I'm saying is I think the value

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Speaker 1: of the position and the difference between one and twenty

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Speaker 1: isn't that great. Whereas if you look through, you go

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Donald's position, and you go the difference between

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Speaker 1: one and twenty. You're talking about Aaron Donald and David Bryant.

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Speaker 1: So what are the what are the what are the

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Speaker 1: what positions are you not taking in the top ten

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Speaker 1: running back? I'd be I'd be here's my philosophy on

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Speaker 1: the guard unless he's unreal, And I'd be hard pressed

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Speaker 1: to take the guard because I think you could take

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Speaker 1: a college tackle in the third or fourth round and

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Speaker 1: move him inside and make him a guard. I believe

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Speaker 1: that I've seen it happen. It's happened all over the league.

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Speaker 1: Guys like Yonda, Um, you know, Zack Martin, all those

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Speaker 1: guys they moved inside because they weren't good enough to

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Speaker 1: play tackle, but they could play guard. Let's come back,

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Speaker 1: let's do We'll take a look at the draft order. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Tony Baselli. Jacks finished the season six and ten. Uh that,

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Speaker 1: been could have been six. Are you only win the

847
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: game and not worry about it train or are you

848
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: they lose the game for draft pick. It depends what

849
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: how I have on You can change hands. As a

850
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: player or coach. I want to win the game, especially

851
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: as a player, because like as a player, you don't

852
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: care about draft picks or any of that nonsense. I mean,

853
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: you just don't care. And and I never understood as

854
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: a player how you go out on the field, especially

855
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 1: in the game of football, not just like you better

856
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: go hard, you better be physical, You better you know,

857
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: go full speed. Otherwise bad things happen, people get hurt,

858
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: You get hurt. And so as a player, I didn't

859
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: care about the draft. And I think as a coach,

860
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: especially when you're you know, fighting for your job and

861
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: everything else, I don't think you care about the draft

862
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: pick either. You want to win the GM. It's depending

863
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: on where you sit. If you're a GM, I think

864
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: who is solidified in their role and everything else, I

865
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: think you're secretly in the back of your mind saying,

866
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: if we lose this, I'll be okay with that, get

867
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: a better draft pick. Owner fans, I, I would think

868
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: you're want to as I think its the GM and

869
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: the owner of the team. You want to win that

870
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: game just because winning is way better than losing. But

871
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: then if you take the big picture in the in

872
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: the account, you're saying, I'd much rather be picking six

873
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: than nine. How about if you're the Dolphins, you lose,

874
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: you win five games to surprise everybody, and the tanking's

875
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: all out of the window, and you still end up

876
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: with the top five pick. That's a good season for

877
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Well, but here's the other thing. You know,

878
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: I think you agree with this unless there's that quarterback

879
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: that you know you just want where you need to

880
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: get him at one or two or you know, depending

881
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: on the number of quarterbacks. Doesn't it more than anything

882
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: about coming it's about picking the right guy. Because listen,

883
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: Luke Jocoll, number two overall pick, how did that work out? Not? Well?

884
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: Not very good? That was that? Was it all draft?

885
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not even thinking of the draft.

886
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying about getting the right guy back that draft,

887
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: but yes, Bards didn't in the long run, did not

888
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: work out. It never did. Did he got a new deal? Okay,

889
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: but it didn't correct uh Fowler, wrong guy got hurt.

890
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: But it was never the right guy for this. It

891
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: didn't work out. You trade him, got on a third

892
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: or fifth round or whatever it was third and fifth.

893
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Maybe Jalen Ramsey, great player, got two first rounders, but

894
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: not here. He's not here? What about Tyson Lalla? Yeah,

895
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you go through it. It's about picking the

896
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: right guy more than anything. It's whether you're six or nine.

897
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: Pick the right guy, meaning pick a good player, because

898
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: all the time you've great players come in the middle

899
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: of the first, end of the first Yes, you'd rather

900
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: have higher picks. It gives you, you know, a better

901
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: opportunity to pick the guy you want. But I think

902
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: you know outside the quarterback man, just get the right guy,

903
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: the guy that fits what you want to do. That's

904
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: a good player that loves football. Josh Allen and pick

905
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: that guy. Josh Allen's that that seems like yeah, and

906
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: he fell to them. I mean that was like a surprise.

907
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: They didn't think they're going to get him. Or you

908
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: can go through the history of the draft for this

909
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: team or any other team. Yes, if you're not in

910
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you want to have a higher pick, without

911
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: a doubt. But just just having a higher pick does

912
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: not guarantee you you get the right guy. And we've

913
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: seen that, and that's I'm not taking a shot at anybody.

914
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: That's just that's a fact. And so I'd rather be six.

915
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: But I felt good to win yesterday. So we're nine.

916
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: Would you consider packaging picks to move up at all? No,

917
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: you need two players instead of one. I think there's

918
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: enough holes in this roster right now, and the roster

919
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: has enough issues that you need multiple players, multiple starters.

920
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: You need to pick starters. You have three picks in

921
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: the first forty picks or forty one picks the right, Yes,

922
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: three in the first forty one. You need three starters.

923
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: You need to pick three starters with those guys, they

924
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: have to be good starters next year. That's a lot.

925
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: That's where I mean. When you have a bunch of

926
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: draft picks that you picked no longer on your team,

927
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think you have to keep the picks.

928
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you package, but I mean, I mean,

929
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: you disagree, you need three starters out of this draft.

930
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. To rebuild

931
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: the foundation of the of the of the team for

932
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you're not doing if you have to get

933
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: a name or do a lot of these guys and

934
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: somehow Folds is not around. I don't know one of

935
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: the rookies, one of the guys. You're not gonna give

936
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: up your whole draft to go up to one to

937
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: get Burrows. I already told you I think about uh

938
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: to a. I worry about the injuries. Herbert from Oregon

939
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: is big arm guy, wildly inaccurate easan. You gotta do

940
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: a lot of work on him, so you know how

941
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: that always goes. Though they kind of talk him and

942
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: then they end up at the top of the draft

943
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Speaker 1: board on draft night. A lot of times they do,

944
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: so I would not I don't think. I mean, I'm

945
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: gonna do the work. I would do the work on

946
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,520
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947
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: with those tops. I'm starting to rebuild the roster, rebuild

948
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: some depth, and uh see what and see what meant

949
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 1: you can do this year and if that and then

950
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Speaker 1: maybe have to draft the quarterback next year, Our one

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Speaker 1: top ten guys rather better. So it obviously means something

1014
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: to you. What does that do to I don't know. Um,

1015
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, I think the biggest thing for me is, um,

1016
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Speaker 1: you have my team win and I did that better

1017
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: name Ricky quarterback. So I gets me fired up a

1018
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Speaker 1: little bit. But you know, you gotta can't help. But

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Speaker 1: you know, compare yourself to those guys, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially when they get taken for you. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I still remember guys that got offered, you know as

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1025
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Speaker 1: remember that Gardner meant you in the locker room today,

1026
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: discussing his thoughts on his statistics and wins versus other

1027
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks totals this year. A second hour of Jaguars

1028
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1029
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: This is our final Monday show of the season. We

1030
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Speaker 1: will not have any more after thank goodness. By the way,

1031
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: I like his cockiness and it's pretty. He's got a

1032
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: little something to him, right, Pete, I like it. I

1033
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: like it. I would said the same thing better. You're

1034
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: just as good as a better. You know, it's just

1035
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Speaker 1: and they took it a little shot. I won more

1036
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Speaker 1: than any of them. I think that's great. I think

1037
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Speaker 1: he believes in himself and I think that's good. Quick

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Speaker 1: note a couple quick notes. Number nine draft picks in

1039
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: recent years. Two of note Luke Keikley, Tyron Smith. Can

1040
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: we have those two right now? Yeah? You wish? And

1041
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: the last time the Jaguars picked number nine, you know

1042
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: they picked No, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Tyson, Nope,

1043
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: he was ten. Reggie Williams. Wow, I think I'll take Keikly.

1044
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: You think I mean there's I just look to see

1045
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: if what kind of player you get in the nine spot.

1046
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: There's a nice mix there. You get two great players

1047
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Speaker 1: like that, you have a couple like Leonard Floyd was

1048
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: in the nine spot. He's not a bad player, he's

1049
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: not a great player. Uh D Milner was kind of

1050
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: a bust in that spot. So you get a mix

1051
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Speaker 1: of guys at number nine. But those are the two

1052
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Speaker 1: best in the last fifteen years. So what does Gardner

1053
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Speaker 1: mince you need to do in your mind to be

1054
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: the guy to be a franchise quarterback that you can

1055
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: go with, because all that matters. I mean, here's you know,

1056
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: everyone says you know, well you can win? You know

1057
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: has mint you? Is he the guys that folls? Here's

1058
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: my question, is that individual who's playing quarterback for you?

1059
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: Does he have the ability and the capabilities to win

1060
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: a trophy? We're you're sitting there holding the party trophy

1061
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Can he win the

1062
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: big one? Can he get you there? And can he

1063
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: win it? Well? I think he'd have to have a

1064
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff around him, go right. I like what

1065
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: I saw from him yesterday more than any game I've

1066
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: seen him play, including the early ones. I thought he

1067
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: was more decisive the ball came out, he read the

1068
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: field better. It was vertical to Pete, Yeah, it was much.

1069
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: This was the game that me and I told you

1070
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: last week. I thought, I don't know, he's a backup.

1071
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: He stood in there and the throws. He just looked

1072
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: much more comfortable in this game, and he looked like

1073
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: a guy that could be a starting quarterback in the NFL,

1074
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: and and up until yesterday, I wasn't so sure about that.

1075
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: Give me two things he has to improve to be

1076
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: pocket presence first and foremost for me, and by that

1077
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean the fanom pressure at times he felt and

1078
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: yesterday he was better at it, but you still see

1079
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: glimpses of it. That's number one. Um Number two is

1080
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: probably identifying the coverages because I thought there were times

1081
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: where he got tricked at points in this season, and

1082
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: that comes with playing. I think as he plays, he's

1083
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: a smart kid, he'll get better at it. Is your

1084
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: arm strength still a knock? Yeah, that's the one thing.

1085
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: I still think. His arm needs get a little bit

1086
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: stronger so he can drive the ball down the middle

1087
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: of the field. This was the first game in the

1088
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: second half that we saw him work in the middle

1089
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: of the field between the hashes. Do you do you

1090
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: think that he doesn't work the middle of the hashes

1091
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: because he knows his arm isn't that good. Either that

1092
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: or he can't see it. You know, he's not the

1093
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: biggest guy. You know. You know Drew Brees, you ever

1094
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: talked to you know, listen to Drew Brees. He sees

1095
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: it through lanes and he learned to be able to

1096
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: see through lanes, and and he's so good and he

1097
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: knows what's happening down the field. He can anticipate and

1098
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: see it. And he told me through one year he

1099
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: threw a hundred and something passes without seeing the receiver

1100
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: because he knows the coverage and he knows where the

1101
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: receiver is supposed to be, and they rep it and

1102
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: rep and repping. I think you got to do that

1103
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: with Minshew. It's got to get to something like that.

1104
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: He's got to be one of those cerebral quarterbacks asked

1105
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: to get stronger. You're right, excuse me, no question about that.

1106
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: That's the only I mean, that's the big question I

1107
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: have with Gardner is can he develop a little more.

1108
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like he's a super weak arm,

1109
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: But can you just get that one extra notch where

1110
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: he can drive it in the middle of the field,

1111
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: and can he get proficient enough and reading defenses because

1112
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: he's not always gonna see it over the middle because

1113
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,479
Speaker 1: all the bodies in front of the big offensive linement,

1114
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: because he's not a big man. Where he can get

1115
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: proficient and understanding defenses and see it through the lanes

1116
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: and be able to work the entire field. How do

1117
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: you work on arm strength? Doesn't weight room stuff? Is

1118
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: it on the throwing? I mean it worked for him.

1119
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: Whatever he did. Yeah, whatever. I'd start talking to Drew Brees,

1120
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, those type of guys say hey, what do

1121
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: you guys do? Because well they don't. You remember Drew

1122
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: Brees came out of Ford with the knock that his

1123
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: arm wasn't good enough and then he tore his rotator

1124
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: cuff and labor him and everything else and he had

1125
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: to rebuild his arm and he was the bionic man.

1126
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not. And Drew has never had the strongest arm,

1127
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: but it's good enough. He can drive the ball down

1128
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you have to be able to drive

1129
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: the ball. I think first and foremost, that's number one,

1130
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: and that you're right, Tony, that's a big issue. But

1131
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: you got amid. Pocket presence and deciphering defenses are two

1132
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: other problems for him. Well. The the recognition of defenses

1133
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: you have to believe and because he's smart, is going

1134
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: to improve with experience. He'll just have seen things and

1135
01:06:55,720 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: he is very cerebral. Um. The pocket presence, Yeah, I

1136
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: know what you're saying, Pete, but I thought it was

1137
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: great yesterday. I thought at times at the beginning of

1138
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: the year, he's very good. He went on, he went

1139
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: to a stretch where he was trusting his legs too much,

1140
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: so it was real quick, and yesterday you saw him

1141
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, go through the progressions and run

1142
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: much less than we had seen leading up to the

1143
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: game against the Colts. It was also protected better. I thought, well,

1144
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: that helps you gotta Yeah, that's why we're talking about

1145
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: he probably need a draft. An offensive line maybe too.

1146
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: We were talking about this on the postgame show last

1147
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: night of the offensive lineman, how many are back starting

1148
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 1: next year? Taylor Slender and Taylor I think Norwell's coming back.

1149
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that I think he's coming back. He

1150
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: might have to take a cut or restructuring or skimming

1151
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: or whatever they want to call it. Right now. He

1152
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: has to be willing to do that. But if you

1153
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: go look, you got look at his overall grades. Um,

1154
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't bad. It wasn't it was it

1155
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: was above average. I think either you draft a left tackle,

1156
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: move Cam inside or let him compete for the left

1157
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: tackle job, or if you don't get a left tackle

1158
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 1: in the draft, that you're think it can be that starter.

1159
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: I would move Will Richardson out to left tackle, where

1160
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: he started the first two weeks of the season. I

1161
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: thought he played pretty well, and I'd make an open

1162
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: competition between Cam Robinson and Will works Like. I just

1163
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: looked at a mock draft that had them picking number

1164
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: nine and they had him taking Ceedee Lamb with Andrew

1165
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: Thomas the left tackle on at Georgia on the board.

1166
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: I can't see that happening in a million years. Um,

1167
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: I would not think so. I think that would be

1168
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: a mistake. And then they had him taking a corner

1169
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: with pick I mean, you look at this, You look

1170
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: at this team right now, they couldn't stop the run

1171
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: because of the front seven. I think the linebackers aren't

1172
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: very good right now, and you have a front with

1173
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: the lost Darius and he's getting older. We talked about

1174
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: class getting older. Yournique is not a big run stuffer.

1175
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen can be outstanding at it. Uh

1176
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: Taman Bryant. Bryant's is two up and down. Still uh

1177
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: showed some flashes of some good stuff. Avery had his

1178
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: best year when he was a rotational player, not the

1179
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: starter his best years, So I really think you need

1180
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: big people. I would focus on the middle of the defense,

1181
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, middle linebacker, safety. Wait, so you're you're drafting

1182
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: a middle linebacker and admitting that the paying thing Miles

1183
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: Jack was a mistake. Then well, I'm moving him to

1184
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: will because I don't think he's the middle line Then

1185
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: you're admitting that drafting Quincy Williams was a mistake. I'm

1186
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: moving him to will. I don't think he's a middle linebacker,

1187
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 1: and I think you need to draft a middle linebacker.

1188
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Well Tony. If they go to a three four hybrid look,

1189
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: he might too be We say it might be too

1190
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: little for the inside on that defense. But Lavante David

1191
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: made a nice transition to playing it in Tampa for

1192
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: top bowls. Who you're saying, who might be too little

1193
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: for that? Jack Jack Pete? Have you seen him lately?

1194
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: There's nothing little about him. He was actually but yeah,

1195
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: he's gained some weight. Uh, there's nothing nothing. Yeah, it

1196
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: looked like he did and I know he's had problems

1197
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: with that in the pass. So but so could you

1198
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: play him in that role next to another linebacker with

1199
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: god Way and Alan as your edge guys in that

1200
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: situation and you would play and if you brought class down,

1201
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: he would be one of the down guys. Avery Jones

1202
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: might be one and maybe Tavin Bryan would be the other.

1203
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: So you now you're so are you saying if you

1204
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: were you'd get rid of Todd Wash I'd consider it.

1205
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: And I don't think if you're Doug Brown you can

1206
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: get rid of your coordinators if you're back, because I

1207
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: think it's really hard to hire top end coordinators if

1208
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: they know it's a one year, proven type of deal.

1209
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: And what if that's what they want in terms of

1210
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: him to do is to get rid of his coordinators

1211
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: and go find new ones again, I think it's hard

1212
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: if you don't have a multi year commitment to go

1213
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: get the good coaches because the really the top end

1214
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: coaches have options, well, the top end ones do. But

1215
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: San Francisco took a took Robert Sala off the pract

1216
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: off the jag Wars thing, and made him into a

1217
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: heck of a Coach's he's getting now, he's getting Now,

1218
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: he's getting head coaching interviews, second times the chart I'm

1219
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna job beaton. So I love that. I know what

1220
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: it is. It's solid. But you know what I'm saying

1221
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: that that, to me is like somebody who could find

1222
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: somebody like that? Will you to take a one year deal?

1223
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: I probably won't take a one year deal, but if

1224
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: he's good enough, they might keep hell and might make

1225
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: him the head coach? Yeah? Maybe, I mean let me

1226
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: see what. Yeah, Josh Allen, yesterday, how many snaps do

1227
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: you think I would say, you're low? It's thirty two.

1228
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: It's not enough. Well, you did get a stinger. He

1229
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: missed a couple of series. I think there are fifty

1230
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: six snaps on defense by the way. Yeah, so he played,

1231
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: he played, he played, Yesterday was okay. Yesterday was better

1232
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 1: because not a lot of guys played that many snaps.

1233
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: Will you admit that will you say admit we want answers.

1234
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: Tony was good yesterday. This is the only game I

1235
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: haven't watched the tape of all year. When you were

1236
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: at the game, you saw him, I mean, look good

1237
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: here a couple of splash players. Absolutely, to me, his

1238
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: is a consistency issue, and he got better throughout the year. So,

1239
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about that forced fumble. I

1240
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: don't even think he saw it come out. He was

1241
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: getting ready to dance he kicked it. Quick question, are

1242
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison and Jared Wilson the starting safeties in two

1243
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: thousand and twin I think you got to draft a safety.

1244
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: I agree. So you need a corner, a safety, a

1245
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: line middle, linebacker, and a big body on defense. Might

1246
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: as well just overhaul the whole damn thing. That's where

1247
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: we are. Let's come. You need on offense, it's a

1248
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: line tight end, maybe two Titans. You need a back

1249
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: or two at least one back, wide receiver, playmaker, wide receiver,

1250
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: maybe like wide receivers down the line. For me, the

1251
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: Jones kid looked like a big body guy or something

1252
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: in the last eight months around there the end, it

1253
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: didn't stand out to me. Pete but I was, you know,

1254
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: maybe how do he look like he was decent in

1255
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: the run game? He's a good he's a good run blocker.

1256
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: It was always the book. He's a very good run blocker.

1257
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: So maybe another maybe another tight end and but you

1258
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: need you need someone dynamic that worked. You know, in

1259
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: the perfect world, you have your run blocker, let's say

1260
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: Charles Jones. Then you have a you know, a good

1261
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: hybrid guy who can is a sufficient blocker, but can

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Speaker 1: all right? And we won this game not because of

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Speaker 1: This one could be how every game shill be into

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Speaker 1: everybody here, man, every family, draw family. We stayed together

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Speaker 1: a family. All three's in the locker room yesterday after

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars win, Doug Marone and then Calais Campbell breaking

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Speaker 1: That family is breaking up. This family stays together. That's right. Uh?

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Speaker 1: Do you buy the carry over winning the last game?

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Speaker 1: And no, no, never teams? How could it carry over?

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Speaker 1: Space contorted like a like you just said. You used

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Speaker 1: to say that all the time. I go, no, Tom,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't carry over doesn't. I don't think it either.

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Speaker 1: It feels good. Yeah, and you go into the off season, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we want a game, does it? Would you rather be

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Speaker 1: eight Nate and lose the last one or your record

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Speaker 1: what it is now and win that last one? Come on?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't carry over? So the teams that losing the postseason

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Speaker 1: that carries over to No, it does. None of it

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Speaker 1: carries over. It's it's it's hardly different teams. They're how

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Speaker 1: many guys are gonna be starting in the same spot

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Speaker 1: going in the next year through it? Okay, starting quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: going to be Yeah. Defense first, I don't think boy

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Speaker 1: Boy will not be back. I do not think. I

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Speaker 1: think one of the two safeties will be starting. One

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Speaker 1: of them. I Trey Herndon will be starting. I think two.

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Speaker 1: D J. Hayden will be your nickel. That's three. I

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Speaker 1: think uh Josh Allen, four, Tavin is gonna be starting.

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Speaker 1: Five Miles Miles Jack at a different position at will. Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna name a three of the five

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen. N We'll say three, nine, uh chark ten

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Speaker 1: for that eleven. That's it. So it's entirely Gibberdine and say, well,

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Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks, the quarterback who's starting is on

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Speaker 1: the roster, So eleven, let's say eleven or twelve, right,

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Speaker 1: not a lot for carry over. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: new a lot of new faces. By the way, you

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Speaker 1: asked me if Norwell was the highest rated offensive player,

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Speaker 1: he is not for the season. Who is Pete lindernd

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Speaker 1: Brandon Linder? The number two ranked offensive player is for

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Speaker 1: the season was DJ Chark. Worst grade of all the

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Speaker 1: players on the offense went to of the starters. They

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Speaker 1: gave well Cam Robinson at a terrible grade. He had

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Speaker 1: to by far the worst grade. But A. J. Cann's

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Speaker 1: grade wasn't good, and they gave Taylor a bad grade.

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Speaker 1: Who's the highest rated defensive player for this season? It's

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Speaker 1: easy place, Yeah, it's easy. Who second? I bet to Trey?

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Speaker 1: Herndon's up there pretty high. He's not. He's number one,

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Speaker 1: Klaas number two. Here we go. Jackson will have at it.

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Speaker 1: Davin Bryant number three, DJ Aiden number four. No. Number

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Speaker 1: three is unique and Gagway number four is d J.

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Speaker 1: Hayden number five is um the rest of all read.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to look you said, Trey Herndon. No,

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Speaker 1: not even close. So I'm not gonna get the PFF

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Speaker 1: like I think they're great, that they're analytics, all the

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Speaker 1: data they put together, trends, and he always has to

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Speaker 1: preface it by saying that I do. But however, they're grades.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard to grade a player when you

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Speaker 1: don't know what their assignment is. But you can look

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Speaker 1: at the body of work and say this guy is

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Speaker 1: in the minus for the season, you would David Brian

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be the number two player on that defense in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. No, that's my point. If

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Speaker 1: you look at the defense, no one's gonna say the

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Speaker 1: second best player on the defense is David Bryant or

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Speaker 1: the guy who had the second best year on defense. Okay, here,

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Speaker 1: here's even better. The second best run defensive grade on

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Speaker 1: the team with the Tavin Bryant. Well they didn't. None

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Speaker 1: of them played well against the run this year, but

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Speaker 1: run defensive grade. But that's it. Let's get to some

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Speaker 1: social questions. Um let's start off with at j Matt Moore.

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Speaker 1: I think the case can be made that minshe played

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Speaker 1: better than all the first round quarterbacks. While he's certainly

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Speaker 1: has been rather inconsistent in times bad? Do you think

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Speaker 1: that says something about his ceiling? What would each of

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Speaker 1: you do about the quarterback situation if you were GM.

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Speaker 1: We touched on this earlier, but let's rehash it again. Pete,

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Speaker 1: what would you do? I would try and get Boles

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Speaker 1: to retire, Please, Nick, retire, go spend time with the family.

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Speaker 1: That would be my first priority. If he wouldn't do that,

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Speaker 1: then I would try and trade him. If I couldn't

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Speaker 1: trade him, then I'd go to camp with those two

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Speaker 1: and go compete for the job with Minshew taken the

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Speaker 1: first snaps totally. You look exhausted. Well, I mean, Pete

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Speaker 1: is like wishing, why would he retire? Pete, He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna walk away from money? Come on, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he is. I'm saying I would hope he would. I know.

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Speaker 1: But that's why you're You're a bad GM. That's dumb.

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Speaker 1: That's a good GM. You're getting that money off the

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Speaker 1: books at the great GM. No, but you're hoping. You

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Speaker 1: don't have a plan. Hope is not a plan, Pete, Hope.

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing. My plan wouldn't have included signing

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Speaker 1: into that stupid contract. You have him now. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to camp with both of them. I

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01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: don't think I'm not going to trade a draft pick

1432
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Speaker 1: for someone to take a salary. No way, you wouldn't

1433
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Speaker 1: four to take a salary. Five. You just said you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't trade a draft pick. I got you already negotiating

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Speaker 1: you down six seven, Um, I give up a five

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Speaker 1: for I'm going to camp. I'm going to camp Minho

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Speaker 1: as a starter. But it's a competitions who who wins

1438
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: it up? Okay, but then you go into the season. No,

1439
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm naming my starter week three, preseason, and that's the guy.

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Speaker 1: We're not doing this. You know, he's not looking over

1441
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: his shoulder and we're not doing this Merry brand stuff.

1442
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: And I tell the guys going in, whoever wins it,

1443
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: you're the guy for the year. How many of these

1444
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Speaker 1: quarterback competitions are actually real competitions? Um? I think it's

1445
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: the good places they are. I mean, I'll go back

1446
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson beat out uh the kid from Green

1447
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Bay what was his name? Flat beat him out. Well,

1448
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: they're real. They're particularly real when you don't have one.

1449
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean in Jacksonville doesn't have one yet. So they

1450
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: gotta find him. So that's why it's a It will

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01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: be a legitimate competition. But I'm with Tony. The guy

1452
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: who wins it can't be getting yanked in and out

1453
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 1: and playing tight because he's looking over his shoulder. It's

1454
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Speaker 1: his job, period. Let's move forward. Next question at Hodari eleven,

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Speaker 1: if con let's go more on what coach do you

1456
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: believe will be the best for the organization and what

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01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 1: was the biggest blunder this past year. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: do that because I don't like talking about other coaches

1459
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: taking a job that is not vacant, especially when it's

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Speaker 1: in our own backyard. I will, I will, Okay, I won't.

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Speaker 1: So let me finish Pete. You know, Doug Barron's head coach. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think Doug Barrone is a good coach. I think

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Speaker 1: he is a good you know, and you think he's

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Speaker 1: still going to be the head I still think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be that coach. I'm not gonna let mean that's

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01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: a dumb question for me. It's a fair question. I

1467
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: just don't like it. What was the biggest blunder? Then?

1468
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? Um? Nick Foles signing

1469
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: nick Fole's biggest blunder by far Nick Foles, What do

1470
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: you mean it is? Okay, it is? I mean, okay,

1471
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: see you agree, you would you agree that that's the

1472
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: biggest plunder. Close second, you pay that kind of money

1473
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: to a quarterback and he's sitting on his ass on

1474
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: the bench, that's the biggest plunder. Yeah, close to is

1475
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: did Jalen Ramsey saga? But that one might actually end

1476
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: up working in their advantage. They got rid of Trump.

1477
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying for this year, just the whole thing

1478
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: and how it kind of the way things went. And

1479
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: then the actually and I'll say even the bigger blunder

1480
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: than both of those was the run defense that was

1481
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: that was not a good one. You know, I gotta

1482
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: be thinking, is Jalen Ramsey a bad pick now that

1483
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: they netted to one for him? It depends on what

1484
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: those two ones produce. I think we did this the

1485
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: other night, right, I mean the other week where we

1486
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: went through the draft picks and we couldn't really figure

1487
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:36,560
Speaker 1: out is that a good pick or that I I was

1488
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 1: a good pick at the time, But you don't know

1489
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: what the return is yet. It's always right if the

1490
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: picks they get are good value and good players. It's

1491
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: a hit. You want to answer the first part of

1492
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: the question, Pete, Yeah, what who would be some of

1493
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: the candidates? I mean you'd have to call Joshua Daniels.

1494
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: I think that would make a lot of sense. Um,

1495
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you call great Roman? Look what he's done.

1496
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: Now you have a different offense and different quarterback. But

1497
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: the guy has done some brilliant stuff in Baltimore. I

1498
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: think Kevin Stefanski, the offensive coordinator, Mike McCarthy would be

1499
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: at the top of my list. I'd give Mike McCarthy call.

1500
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys out there. What about?

1501
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: But I'm with Tony. I think Doug's coming back? What about?

1502
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: And not for here other places? Because again I'm not

1503
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: going to talk about any coaches because Doug is our

1504
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: coach and until we find out out anything different, you

1505
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: know he's the guy we're rolling with. Um, you don't

1506
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,480
Speaker 1: play anymore. It's not your coach. You're in the media, Okay.

1507
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 1: I'm part of the organization. Pete. I'm not selfish. I'm

1508
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 1: not selfish like you. What about Eric B. Enemy? I

1509
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: love Eric B Enemy. I think Eric Enemy is going

1510
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: to interview in Carolina. I think he's gonna get a

1511
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,879
Speaker 1: couple other interviews. I think he would be a really

1512
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: good coach. It's an interesting study if you look at

1513
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's coaching tree, guys who coached for Andy Reid

1514
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: have had a ton of success in the NFL, especially

1515
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: when you compared to other eaching trees. And name me

1516
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 1: one big one, Bill Belichick. But you look at the

1517
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: guys who coach for Andy Reid. Uh, Hardball, McDermott, Naggy,

1518
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: uh Uh, who's the coach? Verdict? The verdict still out

1519
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: on Naggie. What about the coach? Peterson? Yeah? I agree.

1520
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: I think I think Eric b Enemy would be a

1521
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: great coach. I think he's gonna get hired in this cycle.

1522
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: How he faces some of the problems that Naggy, you

1523
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,839
Speaker 1: know face was people always say with Andy Reid's offense,

1524
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: how do you Why are you down on Naggie? He

1525
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: was coach of the year last year, they won seven

1526
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: or eight games, get a good job this year. That's

1527
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: why he doesn't have a quarterback. Pete Yeah. I also

1528
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: don't like the way he calls games at times. That's

1529
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: it's me. I don't know, maybe he's restricted by the

1530
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: fact that his quarterback isn't good. I think I think

1531
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: Stefanski is going to get in the mix at the

1532
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: Vikings am as a coordinator. Uh, he almost got the

1533
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland job last time. He's going to be in that thing.

1534
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: There's there's Ron Rivere is getting the Redskins job. That

1535
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: one is pretty much done. And then Matt Rule. You

1536
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: keep hearing Matt Rule to the Giants. If that and

1537
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys haven't fired Jason Garrett yet, but if

1538
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: they fire them, I think they're gonna go target Lincoln Riley.

1539
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: But after the other night, the guy hasn't had a

1540
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: defense and in his whole entire time there, Well, you don't.

1541
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: I mean number one, Jerry does not have to fire

1542
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett's contract is up. He can just

1543
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: let him walk. Well, it's technically a firing. Well no,

1544
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: technically it's okay, Samanics, he's gonna let him. He's gonna

1545
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: wait to January eighteenth, when his contract is done, to

1546
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 1: let him go before hiring somebody. Yeah, probably, I don't

1547
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: think we do. At the next question, and this is

1548
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: the topic we've covered already, But let's rehash it again.

1549
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,560
Speaker 1: A lot has been made about unique and the possibility

1550
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: of using the franchise tag. Is this survivable answer to

1551
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: keeping ninety one around for the long term given the

1552
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: other salary cap situations on the team, Why or why not?

1553
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: If you don't sign him long term, you gotta keep

1554
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 1: him around with that, right and then maybe negotiate again.

1555
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: That's your tool. That's a long term solution. It's a

1556
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: short term solution. And uh, I would use it. I

1557
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: would use it. I would use it too. I'm not

1558
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: letting year old pass rusher go out the door. Just not.

1559
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: And Tony, you always talk about it. What are you

1560
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: replacing him with? That's right now. He's not gonna be

1561
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 1: happy though everyone has understand that you sign him to

1562
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: you put the tag on him. Yahn is going to

1563
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: negotiate and come up with a better deal. That just

1564
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: gives you more time to do it. I agree. Next

1565
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: question at Terence L. Hayes, Tony said we should start

1566
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 1: the offseason with a quarterback competition between fools and Minshew.

1567
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: Didn't the team just do this for sixteen games? Was

1568
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: Minshew's performance as the top rookie orderback not enough to

1569
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: at least allow him to lead us into If you

1570
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: listen to what I actually said, I said, Mitschew has

1571
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: the head start. He is. He is just gonna be

1572
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna take the first team reps first.

1573
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: But I don't buy just riding off Nick Foles because

1574
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: of a two and a half game sample size after

1575
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 1: you paid him eighty eight million dollars. Now, don't make

1576
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: a decision just because you pay them eight million dollars.

1577
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: That's the worst thing that teams can do. But he

1578
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: has a small sample size of what we have seen.

1579
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: Here's the thing in training camp, JP, you at every practice, Pete,

1580
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: you came to something I was at a lot of them.

1581
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Was there? Was it even close? When you watched Mintshew

1582
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: and Foals, wasn't even close. It was clear. It was

1583
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: clear that Folds was the better quarterback. He got hurt

1584
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 1: on the eleventh play, which everyone forgets. He got hammered

1585
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: into a perfect pass. Was taking the first nap next

1586
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: next season in September, I would be. If I was

1587
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 1: laying money right now, I'm saying I think Minchi wins

1588
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: the battle for entertainment purposes only. Of course, Yeah, I don't.

1589
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't bet on sports ever, never, ever, ever, So

1590
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: who would it ever, ever, ever ever justified? Never SELLI

1591
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: who would it be? I think, uh, it's I would

1592
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: have a competition, Like I said, Folds, I mean, mit,

1593
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: you was gonna take the first team reps? Uh for

1594
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: the first o t A. They're both gonna have opportunities.

1595
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: The better quarterback will play opening day. Right now, I

1596
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: would say I would lean towards it being mints you well,

1597
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: then then that solidifies that the twenty million dollar quarterback

1598
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: was a total disaster. That would probably say that, yes, hypothetically,

1599
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: here Pete, if they do somehow get Folds off the books,

1600
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: they're drafted a guy, right should get down on their

1601
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: knees and thank the high heavens, and then they're drafting

1602
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: a guy. At that point. I'm drafting a quarterback no

1603
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: matter what I am too at some point, and if

1604
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 1: two is there when I'm picking at nine, I gotta

1605
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: do my due diligence on that injury and go look

1606
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 1: at him, and I might take him. I don't disagree

1607
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 1: with how many left handed quarterbacks are there in the

1608
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: league right now, alright many, Well, there's that aging guy

1609
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: Mark Brunell. He's still around is he only played thirty

1610
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: five years? How many years to play like? It's unbelievable.

1611
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: God bless him. But there aren't many I think active

1612
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 1: right now, come to think of it. Yeah, just an

1613
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: oddity of them in history though. Yeah, I'm stablard right

1614
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: left boomer. Yeah, Douglas, Steve Young talk about Bobby Douglas.

1615
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: The worst pastor you've ever seen in your entire length?

1616
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: Was it will if you're left handed? Yes, but that

1617
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: would have actually made you a left tackle that at

1618
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:12,799
Speaker 1: that time? What you m because Mark Burn was left handed?

1619
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: You were? He said, make any sense? You said it

1620
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: backwards feet? That's okay, vital question. This is actually from

1621
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: the game yesterday at jay kun kun too. What was

1622
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: the biggest difference for the offense this game that helped

1623
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: them have greater success? I thought they were more aggressive.

1624
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I thought they played loser. Let's just say it. No,

1625
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: I thought they were more aggressive. They're more vertical. They

1626
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 1: came out throwing it early, and we heard that team

1627
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: that looked like it didn't care if it turned the

1628
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: ball over with it. They played looser. We well, you

1629
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 1: all say this. Doug Brown actually said it, so did

1630
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 1: Flip During that five game stretch, especially at the end

1631
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 1: of it, that they were going to try to shorten games.

1632
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: And I thought they were very conservative. And this is

1633
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: what I said earlier this morning, and some people didn't

1634
01:36:55,880 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: like the comment. It was on Twitter. I was saying

1635
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 1: anything negative about Leonard for net. I just felt like

1636
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 1: they forced it to shorten the game and just to

1637
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: be this very conservative, pounded, just pounded, pounded, pounded, and

1638
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 1: you know, be very conservative and try not to make mistakes,

1639
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: try to get it into the fourth quarter and see

1640
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: if you can win a football game, which was a disaster.

1641
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: You know what that when you say you're going to

1642
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: shorten the game, you know what, that says that you're

1643
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: playing not to lose rather than to win. That's what

1644
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: that is. That's fair. And I thought yesterday they came

1645
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: out and they were way more aggressive. YEP, I agree,

1646
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: and it looked better. Alright, Social questions are Endlet's come back.

1647
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: We'll review Black Monday so far scary, and then before

1648
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: the end of the show, we'll take a look at

1649
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: Wild Monday Night thing tonight. That's done, that's over. You

1650
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 1: have to pick one of the wild card games. You

1651
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 1: gotta do it. For the wild Card game, I just

1652
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: do one, and you have to do it all. No script,

1653
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: no script, you gotta do off the top of your head.

1654
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: Music and we're gonna judge tradition like no other. We

1655
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 1: have to finish with that. Let's cover it up in

1656
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes or so. Back with a looking Black Monday.

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Speaker 1: So um, speaking up Black Monday today and earlier, obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Panthers fired Ron Rivera. That was December three. That's

1724
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: still vacant, right, Pete, what's the what's the kind of

1725
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 1: feel in Carolina right now? Offensive young offensive guy or

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01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: an offensive guy. Maybe Mike McCarthy. They've talked to him,

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Speaker 1: maybe Kevin Stefanski, Eric b Enemy, Josh McDaniels, the usual

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Speaker 1: names there, Washington, Redskins, Ron Rivera reportedly in there, and

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Speaker 1: Bruce Allen out Pete Well. I mean, after about forty years,

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01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: it's time for Bruce Allen to go. And uh, here's

1731
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Speaker 1: this problem. And you guys know this. The problem with

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Speaker 1: Washington is the owner. That's the problem. And he no

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01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 1: matter who he hires, how he hires, the type of

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01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: coachie hires, he's just not winning. And that's why it's

1735
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: the problem. I'm glad for Ron Rivera. The good news

1736
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: for Ron Rivera is if he does get the job,

1737
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 1: and it's not finalized yet, uh, he will have control

1738
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: the fifty three men roster. He will also be able

1739
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 1: to bring in a personnel guy to work with him.

1740
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: I think that's very important for him. Pat Sherman out

1741
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 1: of the Giants. Not not surprising, No, no, it should

1742
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: have happened. Uh. Not a good not a good you

1743
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: know tenure in Cleveland. Not a good tenure with the Giants.

1744
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 1: The only thing I could have thought of, if to

1745
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: bring it back, is you have a young quarterback and

1746
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,759
Speaker 1: now you're changing offenses again and so that from that standpoint,

1747
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: sometimes they keep the coach for continuity. That's usually a mistake.

1748
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: I think the Giants got it right. Matt Rule, who

1749
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: was born in New York, lived in New York, worked

1750
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: for the Giants at one point with Dave Gentleman. I

1751
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: think he's the leading candidate to go become the coach

1752
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: of the Giants. Freddie Kitchens one and done in Cleveland,

1753
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 1: and they've got a track record of head coaching changes.

1754
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: The haslums as owners. Well, that's it was the wrong

1755
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: higher first of all. But they left Baker Mayfield make

1756
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 1: the hire. Never you can. You can never allow your

1757
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 1: quarterback or your players to make the highest Here's the

1758
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 1: thing that there were five there were five to and one,

1759
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 1: and everyone gave Freddy Kitchens all the credit, but it

1760
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 1: was really Greg Williams, who's that coach when they did that,

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01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: If anything, they should have just kept Greg there as

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01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 1: the head coach and like Greg bill the staff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to have continuity based on what you did,

1764
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 1: you did to finish the season out. But Freddy Kitchens

1765
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: to start last year was a running back coach got

1766
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 1: the job because Todd Haley got fired mid season and

1767
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 1: I think they put him in a tough situation and

1768
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: he could well. Yeah, they he was set up to fail.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a he wasn't ready for the job. Be

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Speaker 1: they got all the bells and whistles and forgot to

1771
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Speaker 1: get the meat and potatums. I mean they had one

1772
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: of the worst the right time, that right and left

1773
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 1: tackle and that team were atrocious, and so you have

1774
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: all those egos on that offense without the ability to

1775
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. And then he didn't play well. So, uh,

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01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: they he was set up to fail. It should have

1777
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 1: never happened out. Who's going to get the job if

1778
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: you're Josh McDaniels and you grew up thirty minutes away

1779
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 1: from there. Imagine he grew up a Browns fan. Is

1780
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:09,759
Speaker 1: that your dream job? And you go back to Ohio

1781
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 1: and take that job knowing that the Hasms have the

1782
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 1: quick trigger. I don't know if I would take that.

1783
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 1: If I would, Josh McDaniels, is is Odell Beckham Jr?

1784
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 1: Gonna be back? Yes? Yes, you don't let that go

1785
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: out to the door. You make the move to go

1786
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 1: get He did nothing, it was but he just hurt

1787
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: all year two. He had the core muscles, supposedly, it's

1788
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: been bothering me for about six weeks. And the offensive

1789
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: line was terrible. Do you who got the better of

1790
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: that deal, the Giants or the or the of the Browns?

1791
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 1: What did the Giants good for him? They got Peppers

1792
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 1: who hasn't didn't work out for him? And what draft

1793
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 1: picks did they yet? I mean then there was the

1794
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: the trade for uh Olivier Vernon, Remember that one. I

1795
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: think the Giants uh the Brown's first round pick, go Dowell.

1796
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Beckham is a super talented but tell me the last

1797
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: time a team like he helped the team win? Right?

1798
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 1: Would you take right now? If you were the Giants,

1799
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 1: You're glad you got the seventeenth overall pick in exchange

1800
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: for for Beckham. Yeah, and Jamielle Peppers played pretty well

1801
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: the first half the season, Pete, Yeah, he played pretty well.

1802
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 1: Strong sas okay, he's okay. But the Giants got the

1803
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: better on the Zeitler for Vernon trade. Absolutely, Yeah, that

1804
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: was a mistake on the part of that that front office.

1805
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: But to as you question about Kitchens, he was in

1806
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: over his head. Now they have to go find a

1807
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: guy that can bring that whole thing together. Good luck.

1808
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 1: The the other names that have been declared safe least

1809
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: so far, Adam Gates with the Jets getting more coming

1810
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 1: back that Patricia with the Lions getting more time. That

1811
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprised me. That won't surprised me, did it? They? Well,

1812
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:16,520
Speaker 1: they fired Jim Coldway after to what nine and seven seasons? Mhm?

1813
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: The Falcons brain trust is back. We thought that was

1814
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna happen when you were up there for the you

1815
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: thought that was gonna happen to that team kind of

1816
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 1: rallied around that guy. They finished, they started one and seven,

1817
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 1: finished six and two. Yeah. I would have brought him

1818
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 1: back to him. And you think it's over in Dallas, Yes,

1819
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 1: whether it's matterhase the semantics of it, whether it's yeah,

1820
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 1: I I see no no scenario where Jason Garrett's back

1821
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 1: his head coach. Would you hire Lincoln Riley? Um? I

1822
01:47:56,320 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 1: don't know. He's the hot name right now. I don't know.

1823
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Somebody in my office was saying, oh, well, look Kingsbury

1824
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: went there and had success and he couldn't win in

1825
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Yeah, because he thought Kingsbury actually did

1826
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: a nice job in Arizona. They didn't win a lot

1827
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: of games, but they got better. But there's a big

1828
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: difference between coaching the Texas Tech and coaching at Oklahoma

1829
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: considering what you have to work with. I think Linco

1830
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 1: Roley is a really good coach. I think you'd have

1831
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:25,520
Speaker 1: success in the NFL. But Tony, you know this, you play,

1832
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:28,799
Speaker 1: it's more about how you handle and doubt your roster

1833
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: in your locker room and delegate as much as it

1834
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 1: is for xs and ohs. Well, it's your presence, it's

1835
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 1: your leadership at your ability to get you know, fifty

1836
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: three type A men, have you know or half crazy?

1837
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean all of us are crazy in this game.

1838
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 1: All of us are crazy in the world. So let's

1839
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: let's stop there. But everybody's crazy. But to look at

1840
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: you as the man and say, I'm gonna follow this guy.

1841
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what he says, I'm gonna do what

1842
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 1: he asked. I'm gonna play hard for him. I mean,

1843
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: that's the job at the head coach and getting good

1844
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 1: coordinators right, and if they're an incident, dealing with it,

1845
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 1: not allowing somebody else to get away with one thing

1846
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: while he penalizing somebody else. There's gotta be all consistent, consistency.

1847
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot more than just calling plays.

1848
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 1: And when you look at Linck and Riley, look, it

1849
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 1: looks like he can handle it. But it's a big

1850
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 1: difference handling grown men and handling college kids. Who was

1851
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: the last college coach to go to the NFL and

1852
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL? Pete Carroll, Well, he didn't

1853
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL right away. Yeah, okay, he

1854
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: was already a coach in the NFL. No, but he

1855
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,799
Speaker 1: went to He was a college coach, won multiple national titles.

1856
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Left he had already been a head coach at the NFL.

1857
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: You're missing my point. He came from college. He won

1858
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 1: national titles at college. That's not what JP's asking you.

1859
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: That JP's asking you about the guy who was in

1860
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: college and took the leap to the NFL. Pete Carroll

1861
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: had already been in the NFL before he went back

1862
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: to college. John Robinson did it back in the day

1863
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 1: with the Rams. He had success in the Rams. Bill

1864
01:49:56,680 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: Walsh did it. Yes, Jimmy Johnson did it. Jimmy Johnson,

1865
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh switcher won a Super Bowl. Trying to think

1866
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 1: who else has done Yeah, the Switcherody, but Nick Saban

1867
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: didn't do well doing it? No, who okay, listen, who

1868
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: are the last ones who actually made the jump? It's

1869
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: been a while well, I mean people you always hear

1870
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 1: the the well did it? I mean that was a while? Yeah.

1871
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: What about the NFL too? What about Urban Meyer? Would

1872
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: he be a good, good NFL head coach? I don't know, Tony.

1873
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: I think I think he has a presence about him.

1874
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 1: I think there's I think he would be. He's organized,

1875
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 1: good communicator, good leader. I think he'd be. I think

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. That's why I think he did.

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Speaker 1: How about here, I'll give you a couple other ones. Yeah, quick,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Petrino, that didn't work. Didn't work already, Dennis ericson, Okay,

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Speaker 1: final a few minutes of Jaguars Happy Hour on a

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Speaker 1: Monday for this season. This is the last show. This

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Speaker 1: is it. J P. Shattrick, Tony was Elly, Pete Priscoe.

1951
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Speaker 1: Tony is on Twitter, digging deep. Even in the final

1952
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Speaker 1: moments of the show, Pete, he can't get off of Twitter.

1953
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Speaker 1: He can't do it. He's trying to figure out how

1954
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Speaker 1: many people were getting mad at him again today. Well,

1955
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a there's a lot of them. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: People are on Twitter just get out of control, like

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Speaker 1: this new thing. Okay Boomer, you know that when you're

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Speaker 1: act like that bothers me. I mean, if that's something

1960
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Speaker 1: that bothers you. You've got a very thin skin. It's funny.

1961
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Speaker 1: So like there was another tweet that so I did

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Speaker 1: like ten ten. Every time I do the show, they

1963
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Speaker 1: they pull quotes out of what I say. Correct, Yeah,

1964
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Speaker 1: I see him in the morning, and I don't remember

1965
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Speaker 1: saying it quite like this, but that's fine. So there

1966
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Speaker 1: they're asked me that, yeah, to your point about Twitter

1967
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Speaker 1: being angry, and I said this about your honest and

1968
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Speaker 1: he turned down nineteen million, and I like you, and

1969
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Speaker 1: he's a guy you wanted your team, but this is

1970
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Speaker 1: back to back seasons with under ten sex. If he's

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Speaker 1: asking for twenty plus, you have to take a deep

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Speaker 1: breath and ask if this is really what you want

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Speaker 1: to do. Pretty tame comment when you say, pete, yeah,

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Speaker 1: very I mean. And then people are like, pay them,

1975
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Speaker 1: pay them with all due respect, both the Jaggers have

1976
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Speaker 1: paid a whole lot more for a whole lot less.

1977
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Speaker 1: And then one guy says, shake my head. They just

1978
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Speaker 1: don't like the guy. Who's I mean? I just said, like,

1979
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Speaker 1: who knows? I mean, I don't know. I can't please everybody,

1980
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Speaker 1: can't do it. All right, let's preview the games coming

1981
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Speaker 1: up on wild Card weekend. First of all, four thirty

1982
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Speaker 1: five on Saturday, the Buffalo Bills at the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: This is a traditional a f C South champion spot

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Speaker 1: the early game on Saturday. Pe It seems like the

1985
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Speaker 1: champion always plays on Saturday. Yeah, well, whoever wins is

1986
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Speaker 1: always playing early on Saturday. From that that, because it's

1987
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Speaker 1: smaller markets and people don't care about them. I think

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Speaker 1: Buffalo goes in there and wins. I think Texans have

1989
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Speaker 1: some issues, particularly on defense, and Tony saw him two

1990
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Speaker 1: weeks ago. They don't rush the past are well enough.

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Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's defense is going to limit what Deshaun

1992
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Speaker 1: Watson does. I like the Bills to win that game. Um,

1993
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Speaker 1: I'll go with Bills as well. Now the question is

1994
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Speaker 1: is will Fuller playing? Probably not, then I go for

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Speaker 1: Bills for sure. Our next game on Saturday, the big

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Speaker 1: game in the wild Card weekend and eight fifteen Eastern

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Speaker 1: times start in Foxborough, Massachusetts, the Tennessee Titans. With Derrick

1998
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Speaker 1: Henry the league's leading rusher, they head into New England

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Speaker 1: to face the Patriots and the top defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They're playing on wild Card weekend for the first time

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Speaker 1: in a decade? Who you got Titans Patriots? First? Welcome?

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Speaker 1: Very good. By the way, did did Jaguars defensive players

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Speaker 1: get the presents from Derrick Henry? You know how running

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Speaker 1: backs usually give their linements some presents Christmas and watch

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Speaker 1: or something? Did the Jaguars defensive players get something for

2006
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Speaker 1: allowing him to lead the league in rushing? Who? What?

2007
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Speaker 1: What was this total rushing yards? I forget right, not

2008
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Speaker 1: my head? Get up? Who you're liking that one? First off?

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Speaker 1: I like? I like the Patriots. They're gonna take him away.

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Speaker 1: How about this stat? Bryan tanney Hill is owen six

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots and he's got five touchdown passes and

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Speaker 1: ten picks. I'm doing the game, so you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: make a pick, or you can do that thing where

2014
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Speaker 1: you're not made. I probably shouldn't make a pick, but

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Speaker 1: I will. I'm going Pats all right? Viking Saints quick?

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Speaker 1: One word? Saints and Eagles and Eagles Eagles. You have it, Pete,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon down the line. Well done,

2018
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Speaker 1: this as Pete Frisco, Tony Basselli, I'm J. P. Shadrick.

2019
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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening all year. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: On the Jaguars Digital Network,