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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz.

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Speaker 1: Were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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Speaker 1: Field and West as the Packers wrap up their off

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Speaker 1: season program. Thursday is the final mini camp practice. If

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Speaker 1: there's maybe been one theme you could tag to these

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Speaker 1: O t A s and the mini camp, it's been

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a boost in the eleven on

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Speaker 1: eleven the team reps, as they say, that's certainly by

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Speaker 1: design for Mike McCarthy wanted to focus on the passing

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Speaker 1: game a lot during the off season program because it's

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Speaker 1: really hard to get a lot of work done in

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Speaker 1: the running game, you know, when the players aren't in

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Speaker 1: pads and you can't go full context, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: But it also makes sense to do a lot of

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Speaker 1: this eleven on eleven work in the spring here when

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Speaker 1: two of the position groups where you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of young players you're trying to get ready are wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and cornerback. Because not to say pads don't matter,

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Speaker 1: but they matter maybe a little bit less at those

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Speaker 1: positions than those interior guys and hopefully the development is

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Speaker 1: going to pay off. And you've been covering this team

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Speaker 1: mich a lot longer than I have, but in all

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Speaker 1: of my years, this to me feels like the most

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Speaker 1: competitive team periods that the Packers have had during an

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Speaker 1: offseason program. And I say that because even the pass

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Speaker 1: under pressure eleven on nine periods, they've done a lot

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Speaker 1: of those two and those have been amplified. It seems

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Speaker 1: like they're doing a lot of red zone stuff with that.

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Speaker 1: And then you know the eleven on eleven this week

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Speaker 1: in particular, I think that's so important because you've seen

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Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers does and how he can lead the offense,

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Speaker 1: and eleven on eleven period you haven't seen that yet

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Speaker 1: with Deshaun Kaiser, Tim Boyle, this is your first time

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Speaker 1: seeing it. Brett Hunley all of his experience this offseason,

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Speaker 1: you know, two or three months of classroom war, putting

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Speaker 1: really important to see what these guys have to offer

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Speaker 1: and give those young receivers a chance to make some plays.

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Speaker 1: Joe Philbin was asked about this this week during the

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Speaker 1: offensive assistant coaching availability, and you know, He's basically the

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Speaker 1: premise of the question was can you really draw that

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Speaker 1: much from these practices with these guys running around in shorts?

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Speaker 1: And I thought he had an interesting answer, and he's like, well,

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Speaker 1: if a guy doesn't look good running around in shorts,

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Speaker 1: there's something to draw from that too. So you you

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Speaker 1: want to see these guys perform. Yes, it's a different

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Speaker 1: game once the pads go on, But this is really

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Speaker 1: the chance for you know, Jamon Moore, e q st Brown,

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Speaker 1: Marquez Valdez, Scantling to go out there and show everything

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Speaker 1: that they put on film in the pre draft process

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Speaker 1: and show that those traits can carry over to the

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Speaker 1: next level. Yeah, and that carry over then goes into

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Speaker 1: training camp. The first couple of days of training camp

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Speaker 1: So there's there's a little bit of that acclamation period.

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Speaker 1: But when you talk about the competitiveness of it, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is my thirteen season covering the Packers from this

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Speaker 1: type of position, and the the I guess I'd say

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Speaker 1: the boisterousness of some of the coaches, the competitiveness of

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Speaker 1: the players arguing when a flag comes out whether it

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Speaker 1: should be off sides or a false start. You see

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Speaker 1: that a lot in training camp. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: competitiveness was definitely cranked up a little bit. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's because of the pending competition for

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Speaker 1: roster spots the fact that there's a lot of new

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Speaker 1: blood on the coaching staff, but it's just one of

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Speaker 1: those things that that you notice when it's a little

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Speaker 1: different than in past. And Mike Petton when he was

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Speaker 1: they don't want to sweep anything under the rug. They

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Speaker 1: want to be able to have an open dialogue about

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Speaker 1: what they're seeing and where they can improve. And that

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's the off season program or training camp.

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Speaker 1: He's he's not afraid to speak up. Patrick Graham, the

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be. You know, it's going to be made known. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a time where rookies are gonna make mistakes

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Speaker 1: those things. But the one thing that everybody controls on

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Speaker 1: And it just seems to me Mike McCarthy one of

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Speaker 1: it just seems like there's a higher sense of urgency. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so too. A lot of that. I think

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Speaker 1: with all the veterans being excused, the young players know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is my time that now I'm gonna take some

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Speaker 1: snaps on film. This is important stuff. I mean now, granted,

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Speaker 1: I I personally don't believe the competition for roster spots

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Speaker 1: making that impression so that the coaches when you come

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Speaker 1: on you a little bit. Absolutely. You and I were

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Speaker 1: both prep reporters way back when at Three Bay Press

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Speaker 1: Becazette non concurrently. But you know, when all the beat

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Speaker 1: west Hodkowitz got the got the playbook. I'm the one

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Speaker 1: when the veterans are away. And yeah, it isn't going

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Speaker 1: to ultimately dictate anything today, but in two months from now,

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Speaker 1: active roster. Absolutely. With that, we're gonna go to a

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair,

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkinwitz in that one West. We talk a lot

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Speaker 1: about how certain players they look different when the pads

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about third year offensive lineman Jason Spriggs. He's

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Speaker 1: just flat out bigger and stronger than we've seen him

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Speaker 1: through his first two years in the NFL. He first

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Speaker 1: the University of Indiana back in You got a little

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Speaker 1: insight into his meal plan. I guess we would say

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Speaker 1: in terms of how he's remade his body a little bit,

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Speaker 1: what did you find out? Yeah, and to me, Mike,

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Speaker 1: is definitely different. At the beginning of the locker room

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Speaker 1: interview with Jason Spriggs, I got a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: and you know, it almost looks like Jason Spriggs and

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Speaker 1: was really light at tackle and he said that goes

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Speaker 1: back to his high school days. He's a phenomenal athlete.

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Speaker 1: Four point nine four time in the forty was the

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Speaker 1: NFL scouting combines. Still did thirty one reps of of

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Speaker 1: has been natural for him to put on weight. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember him coming in here, he was

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Speaker 1: But we talked about how he had the frame, and

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Speaker 1: how did he go about doing that? This isn't Wes

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Speaker 1: I mean, you wanted to put on clean, healthy weight.

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Speaker 1: for him. Spriggs ended up spending his entire offseason in

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Speaker 1: the other Beat reporters about you know, how many calories

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Speaker 1: do you think you're taking in a day. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you. I just measured it by meals.

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Speaker 1: But the end justifies the means that. And Jason Spriggs

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Speaker 1: he knew he needed to do that to be better

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Speaker 1: against the run and also the hold up better against bulrushes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and what we've seen so far, uh in the mini

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Speaker 1: Bolaga situation, that starting right tackle spot might be open

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Speaker 1: for Week one, and Byron Bell was brought in as

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and by all accounts right now, justin mccraze looking

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about a guy who's itching to

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Speaker 1: how many push ups you can do, but I mean

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Speaker 1: He talked about that. He's like, you know, you just

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Speaker 1: you do that during certain breaks and whatever. He says,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's again, they're not the West hot quits

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Speaker 1: to build up about strength. That's been a big emphasis

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Speaker 1: He again, if you haven't seen him in person yet.

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Speaker 1: Not to be labor this point, but Kevin King is

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Speaker 1: a physical He is a physical specimen. I know you

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Speaker 1: use that term earlier, but six ft pounds, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that has great fluidity in his hips. He

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Speaker 1: has good speed when he's able to press. He really

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Speaker 1: you know, he packs a punch. Yeah, definitely. Well, as

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Speaker 1: I said, we are going to take a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a break here on Packers Unscripted, go on hiatus

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Speaker 1: and looking forward to it. Training camp starts in late July.

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Speaker 1: It will be here before we know it. But with

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Speaker 1: that we will sign off for now on Packers Unscripted.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com on Twitter. He's still at

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Speaker 1: still the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: your summer.