1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 2: Let's go. 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 3: Let's giants, get out my Giants, give me some job. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll. All right, 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: We're back here for another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Our position series, as we interview giants at different positions 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: heading into twenty twenty four's training camp. Today, we're gonna 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: talk to the big fellows, the offensive linemen to a 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: longer episode, a lot of interviews with giants, tackles, guards, centers, 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: the whole gamut, as we discussed the Giants offensive line 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: and hope it can be a better group and a 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: healthier group in twenty twenty four. Now we're joined by 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 2: Giants starting left tackle Andrew Thomas. Andrew, what's up man? 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: How you doing all right? 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: I know you don't like to talk about injuries, but 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: I'll ask you this anyway. 18 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: What did the hamstring actually feel? Okay? 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: Last year? 20 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: Was it like February? 21 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: Fill? 22 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Okay, probably late January. I will say. When I came back, 23 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: there was still some inflammation and things like that, and 24 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't back to full strength, but I could I 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: could do my job, but. 26 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: I'm sure it limited your mobility a little bit. 27 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Right, Definitely, I didn't feel comfortable really running off the ball, 28 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: which I think affected my run game. I think I 29 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: passed blocked pretty well last season, but I definitely felt 30 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: like it made my run game a little more deficient. 31 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: All right, so you're one hundred percent. How's your off 32 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: season been. What are the some of the things you've 33 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: been focusing on in terms of trying to become a 34 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: better player. 35 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say the first thing is just being healthy. 36 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: The first month in off season, I just took some 37 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: time away from football, away from the game, just to 38 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: focus on myself, my family, and then hit the ground running, 39 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: just training a lot of rehab, prehab things, just to 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: make sure. Obviously you can't stop free accidents. 41 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, yeah, you aren't going 42 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: to be sprint. 43 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: But just doing whatever I can. And then with the 44 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: new you know, additions we have to the staff with 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Karen and all the new guys in the OH Life room, 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: just trying to get us all on the same page. 47 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: We have a lot of veterans that that understand, you know, 48 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: how to play the position. So I'm happy to have 49 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: those guys in there and just doing my best to 50 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: help translate you know, our terminology to you know, whatever 51 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: they're used to. 52 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to dig in with you on Colin 53 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: Briscillo because obviously you've been here with your third offense. 54 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: Actually you were there when they like three guys in 55 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: one year. So I don't even I don't know if 56 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: you can can have any offensive whne. 57 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Coaches you guys, but this has been my fifth office line. 58 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I ad meant I couldn't even add them up. 59 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: How is Colin Bisill a little bit different than the 60 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: guys you've had here before? What makes him unique? 61 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: I would say, Karen uh I would say what makes 62 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: some unique is just his passion for the game. You 63 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: can tell that he's very intrigued with understanding officer line play, 64 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: the offense as a whole. And I will also say 65 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: that he really cares about how we see it as players, 66 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 67 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: So he'll he'll he'll ask you stuff about how you 68 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: want to handle that. 69 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: He'll ask what like, he'll like he has none negotiables 70 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: like all coaches have. Of course, he'll also ask because 71 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: he unders says that you know, like I've played in 72 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: this system for a while, and like we signed some 73 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: more events, Like he had Jermaine that you know, played 74 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: with him in a similar system, so he understands that. 75 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: And he always says, like he's never played in the NFL. 76 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: He you know what I'm saying, he's coaching and he's teaching, 77 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, from his experience where he's learned as a coach, 78 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: but as a player is different. So he asked for 79 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: our input on on certain things. 80 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: It seems like I've made sure to spend a lot 81 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: of time because you guys can't do contact in and ots. 82 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: That's all it meant to work. 83 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: It seems like he's just a very detailed coach where 84 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: he knows exactly what he wants from everybody in the 85 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: spots and and there's a lot of teaching going on 86 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: during a lot of these sessions. 87 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it helps a lot that Korin began 88 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: his coaching career in the NFL under this system, being 89 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, with the Patriots. 90 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: And being under Dante s exactly. 91 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: So he he you know, was at the beginning of 92 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: that you know offense coming into form, and I think 93 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: he does a great job of translating this especially for 94 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: young guys, and you know, Dave's and Cap like, they're great, 95 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: but we have so many plays, so many nuances that 96 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: we have to you know, be able to hear the 97 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: call and replicate it and do our assignment. So I 98 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: think he does a good job of breaking it down 99 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: for the new guys and the young guys to make 100 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: sure that everyone's on the same page. 101 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: I want to attack two different parts of this. The 102 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: first is the mental part. How much has he changed 103 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: up the protection rules that you guys have in terms 104 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: of passing guys off, handling butches? How much is that mental? 105 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: Here are your rules based on formations different from what 106 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: you did the last couple of years. 107 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few changes that we've made just based 108 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: on like mic points and stuff like that, and then 109 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: just what we call certain blocks of what we call 110 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: certain sorts. But the meat and potatoes of it is 111 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: just the same protection, Like we're going week sword, we're 112 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: going to the like stuff like that. Like we're doing 113 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: the same type of scheme, but he's changed the way 114 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: we call certain things. 115 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: How about technique from a physical standpoint, how is he 116 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: teaching you guys to handle things any differently from a 117 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: physical standpoint. 118 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 119 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: In the run game, he teaches different techniques, likes some 120 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: coaches teach your foot and then some teach like a 121 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: almost like a rocker step on like inside zone and 122 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and he allows us to do both, 123 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: like just based on the linebacker alignment and things like that. 124 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: And then in the past game he wants us to 125 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: set a little bit more vertical depending on whether where 126 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: our responsibility is and who that rusher is. 127 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: Do you like the changes? 128 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: I like it, I think sometimes, especially when I when 129 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: I look at my game and I watched the film, 130 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: I see that I take a very similar set almost 131 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: every pass play, unless it's like a quick protection. I 132 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: want to I want to be better at having switch 133 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: ups because when you're going against the elite guys, they 134 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: can key in on that you're taking the same type 135 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 1: of approach every rep. 136 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: All right, final question talking about going against the elite guys. 137 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: I know there's no contact in OTA, so you don't 138 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: really feel for it yet, but Brian Burns tell me 139 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: what it's like trying to block that guy. 140 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually I actually played Burns. 141 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: I think it was two years ago. 142 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: You know, that was my first time go with some 143 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: great competitor. I mean he's explosive, he can bend the 144 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: edge pretty well. And then right now, like you said, 145 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: we're not doing a lot of physical stuff, so it's 146 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: more like working your hands and your technique and stuff 147 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: like that, which I think is good for both of us. 148 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: Andrew, good stuff, man, Enjoy your rest of your summer 149 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: and we'll see in the drink camp coop. Now we're 150 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: joined by a new Giants offensive line and John Runny. 151 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: John, how are you, man? 152 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 5: I'm doing well. 153 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 6: Thank you for having me on here. 154 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: So your vet. 155 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: You've been around the block a couple of times, but 156 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: everyone tells you this offense is really tough to learn. 157 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: How has it been for you the last couple months 158 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: trying to absorb all of this? 159 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 7: Uh? 160 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, they definitely weren't wrong. It has taken some uh 161 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: used to you know, within everything, all the terminology, But 162 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: I'm getting a hang of it now and it helps 163 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 5: having really smart guys around me, especially air center John Michael, 164 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 5: He's who helped me a lot and Sully getting there 165 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 5: and feel more uncomfortable each day. 166 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have one of your teammates you're made alumin 167 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: or who I'm sure has helped you coming with Carmer 168 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: and Brisillo from from Vegas trying to kind of get 169 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: you involved. How has he been helping you trying to 170 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: kind of learn everything and get going here In the. 171 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 5: Offense, definitely, Jermaine's been with Karm. I think this is 172 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 5: their third step together, so they definitely have an interesting 173 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: dynamic with each other in the offensive line room. And 174 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: it's funny to joke about, but some of this stuff 175 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: we're doing on offense and the protection schemes is something 176 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: that I've never really done before and it's taken some 177 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: getting used to, but understanding it now and a lot 178 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 5: of these guys have been in the system for a 179 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 5: long time, so it's nice to be able to go 180 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: to them and you know, guys like Jermaine who's been 181 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: under Caarm for a good amount of time now and 182 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: kind of learn how it hits their brain and me 183 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 5: trying to put that into you know, how I see 184 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: the game as well, and just kind of understanding this 185 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 5: philosophy and scheme that we're putting it in. 186 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: You mentioned John Michael Schmidtz, your young center. Everyone has, 187 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of learning to do in the 188 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: Rookiears heading into a second season, when you see him 189 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: as a guy that has to make the calls, control 190 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: the offensive line where see in terms of the mental aspect, 191 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: and becoming that leader of the group. 192 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: He's been fantastic every step of the way that I've 193 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: seen him, from day one of the offseason to or 194 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: right now, rarely makes mistakes. You can't even really tell 195 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: that he's a second year player. He kind of feels 196 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: like he's a fourth or fifth year veteran the way 197 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: that he's up in the line of scrimmage, commanding everybody 198 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: you know, to his left and right and making sure 199 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: everybody's on the page, same page in the backfield of 200 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: the quarterbacks and the running backs. And it's been awesome. 201 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: Really smart guy, tough and excited to play with him. 202 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: You know, come come in August September. 203 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: I know you're not a big social media guy, so 204 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you're quote wind of this, but 205 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: when you first got here, we did our interview together 206 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: and you said, I'm a little more comfortable on the 207 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: left side, and then when you started playing right, it 208 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, he's playing right. I don't 209 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. And I'm sitting here, I'm 210 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: like the guy he started right. I don't understand what 211 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: the big deal is. Does it matter to you right 212 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: or left? Are you perfectly comfortable playing on the right guard? 213 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've played left in college, and early 214 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: on in my career i played left. But you know, 215 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 5: most recently I've been playing on the right side and 216 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 5: pretty much been strictly right ever since we started the 217 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 5: off season programs, So I ain't definitely feel a lot 218 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: more comfortable there, starting to feel and very very like 219 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 5: home to me for sure. 220 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: I know Evan has been taking a ton of represent 221 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: team yet, but what has been like working with him 222 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: on the right side, at least for the mental game. 223 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: It's been good. We've been in walkthroughs together mainly. He 224 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: hasn't done any live team reps for I think it's 225 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 5: the doctor's orders whatever he's got going forward, and it's 226 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 5: been it's been great. He's been helping me out as 227 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 5: much as he can, and you know, we're trying to 228 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: trying to help each other here in there. I'm trying 229 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 5: to learn from him how he sees things and whatever 230 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 5: he needs help and pointers on learning how we're gonna 231 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 5: work together fit these double teams where if he's gonna 232 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 5: be so we don't step on each other. And it's 233 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 5: it's been a fun learning process and it's nice having 234 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 5: one of the largest team in beings I've ever seen 235 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 5: that entire left to play next to. So it's been 236 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 5: it's been nice. 237 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: He's a big dude. 238 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Final question, you've been around offensive line coaches a 239 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: long time, good ones. What it makes Carmen Brisolo a 240 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: little bit different and what makes him effective as a teacher. 241 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really detailed. Well, we'll be watching a play 242 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: in the in the film room and seems like maybe 243 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 5: we spend ten minutes on two seconds of film that 244 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 5: has passed and really detaility is hammering that home and. 245 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: Just like hand placed with footwork things like that, or 246 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: is it more mental like rule stuff? 247 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 5: A little bit of everything. Honestly, he doesn't skip anybody. 248 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 5: He goes right down the line and identify And it's 249 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 5: not not just him coaching at you, it's you having 250 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: a conversation about like why why did this happen? What 251 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 5: do you think caused this? How can we fix it? 252 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 5: What can we do to try to improve and get better? 253 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 5: And uh, it's it's been great given pointers to guys 254 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 5: to you know, to try to work stuff in the 255 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: team periods where it's a new technique and it's not 256 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: necessarily going to work out right away, but giving you 257 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: that grace and understanding that you're trying to learn a 258 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: new technique and going forward that's going to work out 259 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: and be more effective down the line. And uh, it's 260 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: it's been great. I think everybody's been really enjoying the room. 261 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: I guess that grace would disappear as we get into 262 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: training camp and pre season games. Yeah, yeah, so that's 263 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: the season. This is the learning this is the learning 264 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: time of absolutely joh goodtuff that we appreciate the time. 265 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 266 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 8: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens, 267 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 8: so go to that retreat NW you moves to the country. 268 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 8: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 269 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 8: you ready for all that life brings? 270 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: Football is coming and so is the next college semester. 271 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: If you need funding, a Citizen Student loan could help 272 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: you pay for one hundred percent of your school certified cost. 273 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: Gets your rate quote in about two minutes at citizens 274 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: bank dot com slash pay for college. Now we're joined 275 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: by a Giants offensive tackle Evan Neil Evan. What's going on? Man? 276 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: That's so much man, I'm blessed to be here. How 277 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 4: you doing. 278 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: It's great to talk to you as always, always love 279 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: talking to you. First, I think what Giant fans want 280 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: to know is how you feeling health wise? Man? Where 281 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: you at? 282 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: That's why I'm feeling good. Man. I still, you know, 283 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: recovering from my ankle injury. I'm almost ready to go. 284 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: Still have some fine tuning things. Ankles definitely strong and 285 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: moving along in the right direction. 286 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: Now we're recording this or so fans don't start freaking out. 287 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 2: This is the middle of June, so we still got 288 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: about the six to seven weeks. In those sixty seven weeks, 289 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: do you expect first day trending again that you're going 290 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: to be rip roaring, ready to go full go team 291 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: as the plan? 292 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: That is the goal. God forbidding any setbacks or anything 293 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: like that. I'll be ready to ready to go first 294 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: their training camp. 295 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: How have you been able to stay up on all 296 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: the new stuff with Colon Burcello, with the protections and 297 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: all that, you know, having to spend some of your 298 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: time at practice on the side doing rehab rather than 299 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: being with the offensive lineman is doing the drills. 300 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: Just taking advantage of as many mental reps as I can, 301 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: trying to pay his best attention as I can, and 302 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: in the meetings, taking good notes, asking questions, and also 303 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: taking advantage of the walk through periods that I get 304 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: to participate in as well. So, yeah, just trying to 305 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: take the time to you know, focus more on the 306 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: mental side of the game. 307 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: What is it about Colin Barcello as a coach and 308 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: a teacher that that you like and and strikes you 309 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: as something that's positive. 310 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so far since I've been around calm, 311 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: he's definitely thorough in terms of how he breaks down 312 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: and you know, explains our offense to us. He creates 313 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 4: a pretty good working environment in the room as well 314 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: and on the field. Or he's a good coach, he's 315 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: gonna know, demand excellence, He's gonna get after you. Yeah, 316 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: so he's gonna call it how he sees it, but 317 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: I believe so far from what I've seen, he's gonna 318 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: call it fair as well. 319 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: How do you think he's going to help you improve 320 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: your game? 321 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 4: I feel like just by you know, helping me out, 322 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 4: coaching me if I have any questions or corners, you know, 323 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: something that he may see see that that I need 324 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: to work on or maybe need to adjust, whether it 325 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: be a set angle, whether it be uh you know, 326 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: you know how I look at my stance or how 327 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 4: I'm carrying my hands, or how I'm seeing the game. 328 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like how I'm and understanding 329 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: our offense. Uh, you know, how I'm understanding and recognizing 330 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: defensive fronts and you know, safety rotations or when pressures coming, 331 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: and just understanding the game from a you know, holistic standpoint. 332 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: I know you never wanted to make excuses, but in 333 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: the first years in the league, you've dealt with an ankle, 334 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: You've dealt with in me second half of your first year. 335 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: I know you came back after the me but to me, 336 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: you didn't look right. How much overall has that impacted 337 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: your ability to improve your craft as alignment as a 338 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: football player, as you have to worry is much about 339 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: trying to get your body right as you are trying 340 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: to train your football stuff correct. 341 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: Definitely, it just took away valuable reps from me. You 342 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: know those games that even though games are serious, you know, 343 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: over the grand scheme of it. It's kind of like practice, 344 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm finding myself sharper than 345 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: myself every single rep. And you know those are the 346 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: reps that I got to that I had to miss 347 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: out on, you know. But hey, everything happens for a reason. 348 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't change anything about it. Injuries happened, 349 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: That's nothing that I can control. You just want to 350 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: have the most positive attitude about it moving forward and uh, 351 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: you know, not missing any more time moving forward. 352 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: A final question, then, as you begin to get away 353 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: from the rehab stuff and you really start zoning in 354 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: on football stuff and training your technique, what are some 355 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: of the technique areas of your game that you're really 356 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: trying to hone in on and prove on so you 357 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: can show improvement on the field. 358 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: That is right tackle, Yeah, definitely, what I want to 359 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: focus on improve on is my past protection. 360 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 7: For sure. 361 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: I want to you know, get better in every every 362 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: faster of the game. But I feel like if I 363 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: really can dial that in, that really helped me take 364 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: that next step into being the player that I know 365 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: I am. Uh yeah, overall, to help us as a team, 366 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: help us as an offensive line, but even you know, 367 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: being more consistent and being better in the run game also, 368 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: so I won't look at it, you know from a 369 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: from an entire perspective and just in terms of like 370 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: getting better and everybody that I can. 371 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: Is it more hand placement for you? Is it? Is 372 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: it lower body stuff? Is it balance? 373 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: Is it footwork? 374 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: What are some of the specific aspects you're really trying 375 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: to You could. 376 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: Call a hand placement, you could call a balance, you 377 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: can call it position, and you can you know, call 378 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: it whatever you like. But you know, if those are 379 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: areas that need to be addressed, you know, those are 380 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: the areas that I'm gonna focus on addressing, you know, 381 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: every day, you know, focusing on one thing each practice 382 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: that I go out there and practice and uh, you know, 383 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: do it until I can't get it wrong, and then 384 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: moving on to the next thing. And as time goes 385 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: on and as the season goes on. I've been a 386 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,479 Speaker 4: really good spot. 387 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: And we can't wait to see it. 388 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: Evan, always good to talk to you, man, Like, appreciate you, 389 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. Now we're joined by a Giants 390 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: offensive lineman, Jermaine Luminari Jermaine. 391 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 7: Hawaii Man really good how you doing. 392 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: So do you feel like I don't want to put 393 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: too much on your play here, but do you feel 394 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: like you're almost a little bit of like an assistant 395 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: coach to this this spring, coming with car with you 396 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: from Vegas, try to help teach his system to all 397 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: the guys that are already here. 398 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the big thing is just bringing guys 399 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 7: along with you, you know, like you know, on the 400 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 7: offensive line, all fill of us got to be one, 401 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 7: so why not try to spread the knowledge. I've been 402 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 7: in the league for eight years now, and I feel 403 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 7: like it's my job not only to perform, you know, 404 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 7: for this team, but to help other guys reach their 405 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 7: goals and the level of that I know they can 406 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 7: play it. 407 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: Also, why do you think and why do you embrace 408 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: that leadership so much? And why do you think it's 409 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: so important too? 410 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 7: Because I've been around really good leaders and really good players, 411 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 7: and I know what it takes to be a really 412 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 7: good offensive line. And yeah, you know we have at 413 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 7: we have me running Schmidt. You know, I'm probably the 414 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 7: oldest guy on the old line, so I feel like 415 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 7: it falls to me in order to be that guy 416 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 7: that try tries to lead everyone in the right way 417 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 7: and in the right direction, so hopefully we can have 418 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 7: one of the best opens long the NFL next year. 419 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: You've been played mostly next to Andrew Thomas at left guard. 420 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are both pretty large individuals. How 421 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: dominant to hit you guys can be on that side, 422 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: not just in passport, but even you know, going together, run. 423 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, play next to eight. He's dope. Him and Schmidt 424 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 7: or I'm learning, are really really smart and they know 425 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 7: this offense like the back of their hands. So for 426 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 7: me it was a little bit of a learning kirk 427 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 7: because I know the offense, but the terminology was different. 428 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 7: So they've been helping me big time. But just playing 429 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 7: next to at No. One type player, he is normal 430 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 7: type of player I want to be. It just motivates 431 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 7: me even more to play up to his level or 432 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 7: if not, you know, reach new heights with him and Schmidt. 433 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 7: So it's been dope and I'm really excited to get 434 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 7: up to play next time. 435 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: You talk about some of the past protection rules that 436 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: carn Beso brings with him, talk about how that's melded 437 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: with some of the intelligence guys. Just talk about Schmidt's 438 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: and Thomas and how have they all kind of figured 439 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: out maybe some of the new rules that Colin Basil's 440 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: putting in place as compared to maybe what they did 441 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: here the last couple of years. 442 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's putting more on their plate, but 443 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 7: allowing them to be the players that they're capable of 444 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 7: being instead of limiting them. And you know, kind of 445 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 7: saying hey, look we need to do this and do 446 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 7: it this way instead of hey we need to do this, 447 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 7: but think about the way you want to do it 448 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 7: and get it done. You know, it's giving them more 449 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 7: freedom to become the players they want to be. And 450 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 7: did you go out there and play free? So it's 451 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 7: it's it's been dope. This has been a really good 452 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 7: off season and a really good ota is for me 453 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 7: at offensive line getting the jail together, and I'm really 454 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 7: excited for a mini camp in oc training camp. 455 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: Final question, You've been at guard in the spring, but 456 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: like on the side, are you like, all right, well, 457 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: if I'm on tackling this player, then I gotta do this, Like, 458 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: are you like mentally in case they do eventually need 459 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: you out there because the injury or something like that, 460 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: if you need to go to tackle, are you mentally 461 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: repairing yourself in case of that situation. 462 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 7: No, I trust the guys we have in the room. 463 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 7: You know, Ev, I know he's going to ball out 464 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 7: right tackle. I trust easy Josh Yadne. We have a 465 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 7: really good group of tackles in the in the old 466 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 7: arm room. So for me, you know, worst case scenario, 467 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 7: if I had to do it, I can do it. 468 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 7: But I'm really enjoying my time at Guard and it's 469 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 7: allowing me to use this party that got lesson more 470 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 7: to really you know, get on those guys and physically 471 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 7: dominate them. So I'm really excited for the opportunity. 472 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: I love it. 473 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see in there. It's making good stuff. 474 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: Men. 475 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: Thank you. 476 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: You loved turf. You're good at it. 477 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 8: So you start a turf bus, business grows, your savings grow, 478 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 8: become the most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready 479 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 8: for all that life brings? 480 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: And now we're joined by a giant second year center 481 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: John Michael Smith JMSH. 482 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 3: How's it going, man? 483 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 6: It's going good? Yeah, it's it's It's been a really 484 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 6: good off season. Manh. Yeah, it's going good out there. 485 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: So how is John Michael Schmidt's rookie year different from 486 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: second year off season where you know we're about to 487 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: combine and we're getting drafted and your sole focus is 488 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: being in this building, you know, getting better as a 489 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: football player. 490 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, matured a lot and not only grew as a 491 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 9: football player, but grew outside of football and just if 492 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 9: it was just bodywork, if it was getting my mental 493 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 9: health right and just stuff like that. 494 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, now, obviously you're someone that was very intune 495 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: with the mental part of the game already, but now 496 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: being in this offense for the second year, do you 497 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: find your confidence in that regard growing a little bit 498 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: where you're more comfortable being very vocal and taking control 499 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: of that line. 500 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 6: Yes, definitely. 501 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 9: I would definitely say my confidence has been getting been 502 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 9: getting better and taking more control of the offensive line 503 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 9: room as the confidence grows. 504 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 6: So it's definitely been a big step for me. 505 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: What has it been like working with Carmen Brisolo, new 506 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: offensive line coach. I'm sure there are some new protection rules, 507 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: new calls and things like that that you're trying to 508 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: learn this offseason. Yeah. 509 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 9: Coach Karm's a great teacher, a great offensive line coach. 510 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 9: He helps you really understand the game and he brings 511 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 9: it down to a low level and then he works 512 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 9: his way up, which is amazing. He just works really 513 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 9: well with us, and No, I got all respect from him. 514 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 9: He's really intelligent. He knows the game really well, So 515 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 9: a great addition to have in our room. 516 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been watching you guys a lot doing your drills, 517 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: and it seems like he wants me more of a 518 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: teacher than a coach a little bit. 519 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: Everything is so detail oriented. 520 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of yelling and screaming, and it 521 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: just seems like in every single play when you guys 522 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: are you know, you have no content yet, but you're 523 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: working on your call and your protection, that everything is 524 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: just very very detailed. 525 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 526 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 9: No, even if you're doing indie work, even if we're 527 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 9: out there doing walk throughs by ourselves and stuff, he 528 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 9: wants to be very detailed of the calls we make 529 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 9: and what to focus on on, what like technique we're 530 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 9: going to use here. 531 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 6: And he's just been a tremendous part of my game 532 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 6: so far. 533 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: So Yeah, watching the two new guards, the vets kind 534 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: of work with with you and the tackles. They feel 535 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: like those new guys are really good at communicating I 536 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: see you guys after plays, after practice, there's a lot 537 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: of discussion going on. How have those two veterans that 538 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: have seen a lot kind of helped bring your group 539 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: together a little bit? 540 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, they helped us a lot. 541 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 9: I mean there, John and Jermaine have been tremendous additions 542 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 9: to this h to this hole line unit, and they've 543 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 9: helped us grow a lot. And like you said, I 544 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 9: mean they've they've been in this, their veterans in the league, 545 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 9: and they've they've helped. 546 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 6: Me out and. 547 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 9: Let me understand the game more on of how they 548 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 9: see at a different angle maybe that I've maybe that 549 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 9: I haven't haven't seen. 550 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: So and Jermaine was with coach Briscillo in Vegas, right, 551 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: I imagine him being able from a player perspective help 552 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: you guys understand what he's asking. 553 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 3: For must be a huge benefit too, right. 554 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly like Jermaine I think when he first got here, 555 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 9: you just like we asked about coach Carmen stuff and 556 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 9: he was very straight up of what he's going to demand. 557 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 9: Obviously he's he's got a high standard, uh in the 558 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 9: old line room, and he's gonna hold you accountable to it. 559 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 6: But he's a great coach and a great a guy 560 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: to leader's room. 561 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: No, I would say, do you correct me if you 562 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: think my impression is wrong that you're a pretty quiet, 563 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: mild manner guy off the field, right, you know you don't. 564 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: You don't say a lot, but when you speak, you 565 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: want it to matter. I don't do a couple of 566 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: guys though, when you're playing, you had to talk a 567 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: little trash a little bit, don't you to the defense 568 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: a little bit? Depends What does it depend on? I 569 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: don't know the moon I'm feeling. 570 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 6: I don't know. Yeah, you just gotta like that. I 571 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 6: think that's a good Yeah, yeah, yeah, it all depends. 572 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 6: It just I don't know. 573 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: And when you look, it just happens. 574 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: You really can't. You don't really uh have a say 575 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 6: for it. 576 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: It just it just just comes out right. You need it, 577 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: you need it. 578 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: I got when you went at what was over and 579 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: you kind of sat back, you took your little break, 580 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: You went back and you looked at your rookie. Ye, 581 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: what was your impression of it? 582 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, tough year. 583 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: It was. 584 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 6: It was a tough year. It was a lot of 585 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 6: growing up. I had to do this offseason and. 586 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: It was. 587 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 9: Looking back at film what I needed to study, what 588 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 9: I needed to and just take little things here and there. 589 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 9: You can't look at it the whole, the whole picture 590 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 9: of it, and obviously you're going to critique every rep 591 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 9: you have, but you got to take the good and 592 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 9: the bad out of it at the same time. So 593 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 9: just know that there were good things that we've accomplished 594 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 9: this this past season, but obviously that's not. 595 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 6: Where we want to be. That's that's nowhere near. We 596 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 6: have visions for this year. 597 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 9: We have goals for this year, especially our old line room, 598 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 9: and as a team, we're excited to get after it. 599 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: All right, And when you took a look at the tape, 600 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: we talked about the mental part already, how you're trying 601 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: to work on the new calls and the offense and 602 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: all that stuff. From a physical standpoint, what were some 603 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: of the things that you pinpointed off the film last 604 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: year that all right, I need to get better. Are 605 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: at a B or C in order to take my 606 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: game to the next level. 607 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 6: On the pros, yeah, I would say definitely uh. 608 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 9: My initial set uh pass pro I would say that, 609 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 9: especially if you get a the one on one matchup, 610 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 9: and then I would say, uh, sustaining box in the 611 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 9: second level just if you as the centers climb up 612 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 9: to get those linebackers. And then uh probably just more 613 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 9: finish more uh more finished in the run game, more 614 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 9: uh finished in the past game and getting in a 615 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 9: great position. 616 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: So I think that's my final question is how much 617 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: different are the from the you can be both sides 618 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: of it, the physical technique that coach briscill is teaching 619 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: you guys, Yeah, and then the calls, the mental your 620 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: pass protection rules. How much is that stuff different from 621 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: last year with Bobby than it is this year? 622 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he's he changed a little bit, but 623 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 9: for the most part, I mean he's been adjusted to 624 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 9: what we've been what we've been doing. So I mean 625 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 9: he's had his like, his stuff that he wants us 626 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 9: to do, and he just been he just added on 627 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 9: stuff that he wants us to uh obviously the techniques, 628 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 9: the calls he'll make and all that. 629 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: So Yeah, Jm's good stuff. 630 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: Man. 631 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, enjoy your summer. 632 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 6: Appreciate it. 633 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: Now we're joined by a Giants offensive lineman, Marcus Keith 634 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: and Marcus how ware. 635 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 10: You man, man, I'm doing good, Man doing great. 636 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: Good to talk to you. 637 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: What has this off season been like for you actually 638 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: being able to work on your craft as a football 639 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: player not having to worry about Yeah. 640 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 10: It's been a lot of time for me to focus 641 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 10: on my game and still just work on my growth 642 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 10: and development. But you know, still got things to work on. 643 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: What were the things in terms of growth and development 644 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: you're really trying to focus on this offseason where you're 645 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: trying to get better. 646 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 10: A lot of like fundamentals and just like my basic 647 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 10: knowledge and understanding of the game, which is like, uh, 648 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 10: like you know, just friends IDs, stuff. 649 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: Like that, was that he made a little bit more 650 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: complicated giving them. There are a lot of new protection 651 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: rules with a new offensive line coach. How are able 652 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: to kind of kind of mess those two things together? 653 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 10: I wouldn't quite say it's like different rules. He's just 654 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 10: like he has like a I feel like a different 655 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 10: like philosophy. I guess, like the way the way he 656 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 10: approaches the protection it's a little bit different. So it's 657 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 10: not really quite like the rules are change. The rules 658 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 10: are still the rules. It's just the way we are 659 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 10: approaching where we go about the rules is to the 660 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 10: biggest thing. 661 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: How does that different philosophy help a younger guy like 662 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: you that, to your point is still working on the 663 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: mental part of the game and then trying to make 664 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: sure of everything straight. 665 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 10: And just making sure you have like a like a 666 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 10: basic understanding of the game, like as far as like 667 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 10: fundamentals and X and o's. It helps great with that 668 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 10: and just building up your general knowledge. 669 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: Watching him from afar, he seems like, you know, some 670 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 2: coaches are yellows and screamers are motivators. He seems more 671 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: like a teacher. To me, we're really getting in on 672 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: fine points of details. Can you give me some examples 673 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: of some of the stuff that how that maybe helps 674 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: a guy like you as you're trying to still you know, 675 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: mature into a good NFL player. 676 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 10: Uh uh, I'm trying to think about that one. 677 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 6: Uh. 678 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 10: I mean, I guess again, I guess like I can 679 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 10: just go out repeating it, like let's say, if you 680 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 10: go with the pro he just harped on the details 681 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 10: and just like knowing what the defense is in having 682 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 10: that basic knowledge so you can already know what they expect, 683 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 10: what pressure might be coming just off the technique in 684 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 10: front of you, and just so on and so forth, 685 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 10: and that's knowledge that you can take with like any 686 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 10: scheme or any playbook. 687 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: What is it you like about the way he teaches you, 688 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 2: guys and his approach. 689 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 10: Oh, it's just he's just he'sterough, Like like if he 690 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 10: hasn't taught it to you, then like it's like he's 691 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 10: not going to be like furious and upset that you 692 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 10: don't know it, Like we don't know it and that's 693 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 10: the problem. But we're gonna fix it immediately and just 694 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 10: work from there. It's just your responsibility. 695 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: What are your big goals for yourself this year? 696 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 10: Just to keep improving and make sure above all us 697 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 10: that I stay consistent. That I want to be consistent. 698 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 10: So that's my biggest goal this year. 699 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: Talking to your teammates, you guys have a lot of 700 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: bets in that offensive line this year, man, especially guys 701 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: on the inside. I had played a. 702 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 6: Lot of snaps in this It's a lot of knowledge 703 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 6: drawn from. 704 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, how have those guys kind 705 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: of kind of helped you along as a younger player 706 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: trying to learn the tricks of the trade a little bit? 707 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, just just just wear a film and 708 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 10: the constantly pointing out a little details, a little things 709 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 10: that I like, I think about, but I may not 710 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 10: think like that might be the issue of more problem 711 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 10: at the time, and they pointed out and it's just like, 712 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 10: you know, give me a small tip or something that 713 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 10: I can use the correction and just just front of 714 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 10: my game. 715 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: We can't wait to see it. Mark appreciate the time. 716 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 6: Man, appreciate it. 717 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: And now we're joined by giants guard Aaron Stinney. Aaron, 718 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: how are you man? I'm good man, how are you? 719 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. It's nice to meet you. 720 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: What is it kind of been like trying to figure 721 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: out this offense and everything they're trying to ask. 722 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: You from here with pigs. 723 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 11: It's been awesome, man. It's you know, it's a new 724 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 11: new spot learning experience, but you know it's a great program. 725 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 11: You know, the coaches are doing a great job but 726 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 11: in solid things. So it's been pretty good picking it 727 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 11: all up. 728 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: And you have a couple of young guys in that room, 729 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 2: right Evan Neil is only going to the thirty year, 730 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: joh Michael Smithson the second year. But you also have 731 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: a lot of vets that have played a lot of games. 732 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: How has it been kind of having so many experienced 733 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: guys in that room trying to take in what Carmen 734 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: Brasil is trying to teach you all for the first time. 735 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 11: Honestly, I think it's great, man, you know, being that 736 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 11: we have so many vets in the room. You know, 737 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 11: that's a lot of different people that have played a 738 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 11: lot of different snaps in this game, a lot of 739 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 11: different techniques in terminology that you know, we can pick 740 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 11: and learn off of each other. So it's been a 741 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 11: great job of guys, you know, kind of you know, 742 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 11: learning things from each other because you know, we're all 743 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 11: at different places of our careers, and you know, the 744 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 11: young guys are very talented and they know a lot 745 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 11: about football as well. So you know, I think it's 746 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 11: a great way and collective of people in there to 747 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 11: be able to teach each other and learn off of 748 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 11: each other. And Car's doing a great job of, you know, 749 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 11: holding the reins and leading everybody down the right path. 750 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: How is either similar or a little bit different than 751 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: some of the the past offensive line coaches you've had. 752 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: What makes them stand out? 753 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 10: Uh? 754 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 11: You know, I think I think he has a great, 755 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 11: great way of being able to deliver the information to 756 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 11: you to have it applicable to the field m and 757 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 11: for you to be able to hear it and be like, oh, okay, 758 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 11: I know exactly what he's talking about. I actually see 759 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 11: it from that standpoint on where he's kicking it at. 760 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 11: So he does a great job of being able to 761 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 11: relay information to you so that way you can absorb 762 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 11: it and you know, use it as you go to 763 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 11: on down the line. 764 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: And talking to Andrew Thomas, he told me that he 765 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: is open too of hearing from you guys, what you 766 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: see how you would want to play star show. While 767 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: he has non negotiables, I'm curious to know what those are. 768 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: He's willing to listen to vets like you that have 769 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: done this a long time, for sure, to figure out 770 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: how to best handle that with this group. 771 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure. And he does do a great job 772 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 11: of that. You know, he has a few things where 773 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 11: he's like, hey, this is exactly how I want to 774 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 11: hear this way. And the nice thing about that though, 775 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 11: is you know when he does give something like that, 776 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 11: he follows it up with the reason and why, and 777 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 11: it makes sense as to why he would want it 778 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 11: done that way, and then you know, for guys that 779 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 11: are you know, later in their career or you know, 780 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 11: just kind of have certain habits that are working for them, 781 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 11: you know, he'll see that, notice that and won't try 782 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 11: to coach you up or change you on things that 783 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 11: are actually working for you. 784 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: For a vet like you that no stuff you've been around, 785 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 3: you know how this stuff works. 786 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: Right? How important is it for you to be told 787 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: the why and for it to make sense for you? 788 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: So it's one thing that just copy the technique is 789 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: teaching you, but to understand why you're doing it. Does 790 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: that help you as a player too, I think to 791 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: just as the game goes along. 792 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 11: I think I think it's definitely helpful honestly, regardless of 793 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 11: where you're at in your career. Of course, whether you're 794 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 11: a young guy, whether you're an older guy. You know, 795 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 11: getting that information of how it's going to help you 796 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 11: out on the field, how it's going to help you 797 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 11: do this or that, I think it's. 798 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: A great way of you know, it allows you to go, oh, Okay. 799 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 11: This is why you're saying this, this is why you're 800 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 11: teaching this, and you can actually see it kind of 801 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 11: done in an imagery setting in. 802 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: Your head and you're like, okay, cool. 803 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 11: Then you go give it a try and you're like 804 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 11: it makes sense. 805 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: We never changed talk when you first got here. Give 806 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: giant fans an idea of the type of guy and 807 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: player you are. What are they getting with with Aaron City? 808 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 7: Uh? 809 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 11: You know, hard working player, man, love to have fun, 810 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 11: go out there, it's a blast out on the field. 811 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 11: Let to help out my teammates. Man, And you know, 812 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 11: I just want to go out and help this team so, 813 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 11: you know, win some games and be as good as 814 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 11: we can. 815 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: Can't wait to see it and our good stuff. 816 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: Man. 817 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man. 818 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: And now we're joined by giants offensive lineman Austin Schulman. Austin, 819 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: how are you man? 820 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 12: I'm good man. 821 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: How are you so? Center? Only? Are you working at guard? 822 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: A little bit too? 823 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 12: Mainly center? But I can do some guard kind of 824 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 12: if they need it is kind of the situation. 825 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: So what has it been like working with Carmen Brisilla. 826 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 12: It's been good. It's definitely a different system that I've 827 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 12: been in. It's been fun to learn. I think we've 828 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 12: just kind of got We've got all the tools to 829 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 12: attack defenses, help with whatever they give us. So we've 830 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 12: kind of got everything in and just getting on the 831 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 12: same page as everybody and learning, learning the way they 832 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 12: like to do it, and uh, but yeah. 833 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 6: It's been a good time. 834 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 12: It's been fun. 835 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: Now you're a veteran this league, you've been with different coaches, 836 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: different systems. What kind of teacher is Carmen Brisilla prepared 837 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: to maybe some of the other offensive line coaches. 838 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 12: He's awesome. He's been around for a while, he's been coaching, 839 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 12: coaching the position for a long time. I think he's 840 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 12: a good good idea on how to kind of get 841 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 12: those those systems and stuff across the players and to 842 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 12: where we're all understanding it in the same way. 843 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: One thing I really like that you guys have been 844 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: doing out at OTAs is that it's not just the 845 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: online working together you have a period. It's almost in 846 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: every OTA from what I've seen, tight ends come in, 847 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: a money back comes in, the quarterback comes in, and 848 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: you're making calls with the quarterback based on how the 849 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: other offensive linemen and coaches are kind of lining up 850 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: the defense. Right. Talk a little bit about how that 851 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: kind of helps build chemistry with your group and making 852 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: those calls to make sure you get those protections. 853 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 12: I think that's super important because we're like on game 854 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 12: day and team periods and OTAs, we're relying on communicating 855 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 12: with each other and everyone being on the same page 856 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 12: to make the play look good and get everybody blocked 857 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 12: and to be successful with any play we run. So 858 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 12: I think getting everybody working together where we can kind 859 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 12: of slow down and talk about the rules and why 860 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 12: we're doing it in certain ways is very very helpful 861 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 12: for sure. 862 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: What has been like working with John Michael Schmidt's a 863 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 3: young center. 864 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been fun. He's a smart, smart dude, really 865 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 12: understands it well as a good player, So it's it's 866 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 12: been fun kind of working with him. 867 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 868 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: I gotta imagine in terms of this offense, A lot 869 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: of people say for the skill position, guys, that's complicated. 870 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: What is it like for a center on offensive linement? 871 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's like I said earlier, it's it's 872 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 12: it's complicated, but it's it's complicated because we have every 873 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 12: tool to attack a defense in any way that we 874 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 12: need to based on what they give us. So we 875 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 12: have everything everything in at all time. So you, guys, 876 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 12: you kind of have to know what to do with 877 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 12: everything which can help us in the long run once 878 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 12: we get it figured out. 879 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: All right, final question is you face them a practice, 880 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: but more importantly, you face them the game situations. Yeah, 881 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: explain to fans what it's like trying to block Dexter Lawrence. 882 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 6: It's tough. 883 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy. 884 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 12: A lot of double teams, a lot of sliding to 885 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 12: them and protection. Just trying to get four hands on 886 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 12: them is basically the game plan there. 887 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 2: Would you have a guy that is not just that big, 888 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: but is that agile? Right, because this one thing, if 889 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: you know you just got to anchor down, the big 890 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: guy's gonna come straight at you. 891 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure then you could adjust your technique. 892 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: But when that guy can also swim you or rip 893 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: you just talk about the challenge his combination of athleticism 894 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: and size. We'll give giant opponents this upcoming y. 895 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough. 896 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 12: I mean, and if you don't if you don't have 897 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 12: a system in place or a plan to get four 898 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 12: hands on him, like I said, on every play, you're 899 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 12: you can't block the battle. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's tough. 900 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 12: It's definitely tough. Yeah, you gotta you gotta have four hands. 901 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: On him Austin, this is fun, man, I appreciate it. 902 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 4: Thank you. 903 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: Thanks. That's to look at the big man up front. 904 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 2: The Giants offensive line. A lot of conversation about Carmen 905 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: and Briscilla, their new offensive line coach as well. I 906 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: thought some really good information from the guys as we 907 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 2: get ready for the pads to come on when trading 908 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 2: camp begins at the end of July. I'm John Schmelk. 909 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us on the Giants Total Podcast, 910 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 911 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. 912 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 2: Everybody,