1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks, it is fun Day, July seventh, and 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: this will be another important week for Sean Diddy Combs. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Last week was certainly a big week after a big win. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: And you know what he got after that win, a 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: standing ovation from a crowd of folks. Who is lawyer 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: now says he should serve as an inspiration for woo 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: wee folks, welcome to this. Did he update of Amy 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: and TJ and Robes were so intrigued and so fascinated 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: trying to get details about what was going on in 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: that chord and the behind the scenes stuff. And we're 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: starting to get some Mark Agnifilo, who is without a 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: doubt going to be a household name and a star 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: moving forward. He gave an interview to the Associated Press 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: and some things jumped out, including the fact did he 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: get a standing ovation? 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: That was a doozy? Right? That was a diddy doozy 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: To see that and to hear Mark Agnifilo talk about 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: what it was like the reception that did he go 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: when he left that courtroom and walked back into that 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Brooklyn prison that they were all rallying around him. They 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: all were supportive and congratulating him. It's hard to imagine 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: what it's like to be Ditty in prison, and to 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: see that he had the support of his fellow inmates. 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: I guess maybe it shouldn't have been shocking, but it 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: kind of was. 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: Still when you hear some of the details, I suppose 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: some of it starts to make sense, but I guess 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: some initial headline thinking, this is a man who was 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: on trial for some pretty atrocious stuff. We saw him 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: do some awful monstrous stuff. If you take it just 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: on that level without the context, and to think that 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: he beat the case and anybody applauding, that seems a 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: little in bad taste. 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: But these are fellow prisoners. These are people who have 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: also either been charged or convicted of probably other heinous acts, 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: certainly some of them violent. So perhaps it makes sense 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: if you think about it from that perspect because this 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: was kind of well, I believe Mark Agnefilo said, this 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: was a moment where these men in this prison, they 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: don't get to see anybody who beats the government, and 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: so this was a win in a weird way for 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: all of them. 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: I take, and again I said, as in context of 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: a standing ovation, there are a lot of people, even 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: if they don't say it on social media, even they 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: don't say it publicly. They are, in their own way 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: applauding that the government didn't get away with what a 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of people consider trumped up charges. This is rex 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you're overreaching, and you should not be going out to 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: this man for this. You should be going out there 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: from this, this and this, which we all agree with 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: and we saw so in that context of Look, every 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: black man who gets charged with something in this country 54 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: is not Nelson Mandela. Okay, it's just not. But there 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: are plenty of black men who have plenty of experience, 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: and there's been plenty of evidence of how black men 57 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: have been treated by the justice system. So to walk 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: in to a prison and see, wow, you made it, 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: it was like they have almost something to aspire to 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: in applauding the fact that someone actually beat in a 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: way not got away with a crime. It's so different. 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: They're not applauding that he got away with a crime. 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: They're just applauding that the government didn't get you on 64 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: this bullshit. And a lot of them, I know everybody 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: don't sell block D that's the joke, says they're innocent. 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, everyone, It wasn't them. They've been falsely accused. 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: They didn't do what they are charged with, certainly, but 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: this so I'm curious what you think Mark Agnefillo, when 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: he was giving this interview to the Associated Press talking 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: about this win that did he had, it was a 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: symbolic win for all of the black men incarcerated. I 72 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: think he said it was the best thing he could 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: do for incarcerated men in America. 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a stretch, that's gonna be That. 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: Was a lot for me to read. 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough because of what It's so hard 77 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: to separate these two things. There are two things. It 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: is possible that the government overreached and did ditty wrong. 79 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: That's possible. It's hard, on the other hand, to say 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: it in the same breath that about a guy who 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: we know committed crimes that we saw and we would 82 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: have no problem with him going to Britain. 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: They were indisputable and even he admitted to it. And 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: you said the prosecution did ditty wrong potentially by overreaching 85 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: and charging him with charges that weren't appropriate for the 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: crimes that he did commit. And I think a lot 87 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: of folks believe the prosecution did the victims wrong by 88 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 2: that as well? 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: There you go, nail it. The government did everybody wrong. 90 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: It was wrong to go after Ditty in this way, 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: and it was wrong to the victims to do it. 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: I guess to stretch. It was a bit of a 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: stretch for what their experience was perhaps, and we're treating 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: them like what we always Domestic violence is so hard 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: in this country to deal with, to prosecute, to have 96 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: conversations about. And so we looked at a guy who's 97 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: a domestic abuser that don't we want we want them 98 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: all in prison. 99 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: Yes, and he should pay for those crimes. 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Nobody's arguing that point. But they're not standing up and 101 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: applauding that he got away with beating the hell out 102 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: of women. Yeah, we got to be clear, that is 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: not what they're applauding. And I think the same thing 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: applied to the OJ Simpson trial, to where there were people, 105 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: white folks looking on one side going why are they 106 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: dancing and celebrating that this man got away with murder? No, 107 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: that's not what it was about. 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: I'm I'm curious Mark Agnifilos that he talks to Diddy 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: four to five times a day, which I thought was 110 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: actually very interesting that that's how often they speak. But 111 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: when he said maybe it's this is what he relayed 112 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: to the AP that he told Diddy on one of 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: these phone calls, maybe it's your fate in life to 114 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 2: be the guy who wins. They need to see that 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: someone can win. And he said, I think he took 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: that to heart. Do you think that the reaction, even 117 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: by the fellow inmates, the support he obviously had from 118 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: his family and friends and from his legal team, do 119 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: you think that does change him that he feels now 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: maybe even like he is a role model. And that's 121 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: where I was getting a little bit concerned that somehow, okay, fine, 122 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: he didn't get charged with the things he shouldn't have 123 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: been charged with in the first place, but let's still 124 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: remember what he did and even what he admitted to doing. 125 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: Now to kind of act as if he's up on 126 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: a pedestal and can be a role model. This is 127 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: where I'm having a hard time with this. Now, we 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: can't take it too far the other direction. I can't. 129 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: I just don't think that's probably a good place for 130 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: anyone to consider him, or even for him to consider 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: himself in that category. 132 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: We'd pite down a little bit on the idea of 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: him being a symbol, of him being hero of any kind. 134 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: And when nobody's going that far, I understand close it's saying, 135 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: but they never see anybody beat the government. Yes, and 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: that's fine on particular charges that account. I'm just using 137 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: that term loosely trumped up, but it is what it is. 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: And that's just the idea of anybody applauding or celebrating 139 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: in some way this man, Like even if you can 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: agree with the verdict, you still aren't hooting and hollering 141 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: and yay. That's just there's nothing about this case that 142 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: should be celebratory for anybody except quite frankly, for Diddy. 143 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: Right, and I could maybe be best in a private 144 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: celebration perhaps, But it was also interesting to hear Mark 145 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: talk to the AP about the defense strategy and how 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: they went about defending Diddy without ever putting a witness 147 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: on the stand. 148 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting. This is a guy, Mark Agnifilo, 149 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: who was a federal prosecutor in Jersey who actually had 150 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: prosecuted gangs and other violent enterprises with racketeering, so he 151 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: knew federal rocketeering arges like nobody else inside, and that 152 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: was fascinating. 153 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing, he knew what he 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: was up against, and he knew how to rip it apart. 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: He knew where the holes in that damn statue were, 156 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: he knew how to go after it. And the idea 157 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: they walked into court with the strategy of this, Yep, 158 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: he's an awful boyfriend. Yep, he beats women. That does 159 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: not make a racketeer. Yeah, he is not a sex 160 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: trafficking racketeer. He is an awful guy to date. 161 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: Right, they took they took the wind out of out 162 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: of the prosecution and sales by just fully admitting that 163 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: from the beginning and never trying to argue that he 164 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: was a good guy. They were like, yeah, he's a 165 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: terrible boyfriend, he's a violent boyfriend, but he is not 166 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: a sex trafficker and he wasn't involved in some racketeering conspiracy. 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he said it was pretty interesting, he said, 168 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: because he knows racketeering so well, having been a federal prosecutor. 169 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: He said, if you know how the car works, you 170 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: know where the fail points are. And he said, this 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: prosecution had dozens, dozens of fall points. 172 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: They tore it apart. It was almost shocking. This is 173 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: something they we teach kids this and as adults you 174 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: learn this thing, you take away somebody else's power to 175 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: insult you or come after you. If you just admit it, 176 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: if you say yep, I did that, you give them 177 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: nothing else, Like what's your next thing to say? If 178 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, I'm violent, yep, I was on drugs, yep. 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Treated those women terribly as a boyfriend, yep, domestic abuser, 180 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff, Like, what's the next thing the prosecution 181 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: is going to say? Exactly, But but you gave two 182 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: pills to those two people, as your assistant brought to you. 183 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: Ha ha Stop. 184 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: And he and Mark made such a good point. He 185 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: said they didn't have conspiracy because they basically just took 186 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: Diddy's private life and his deviant sexual ways and then 187 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 2: tried to build a racketeering case. He said, on personal assistance. 188 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: That's just common sense. It just didn't It did not 189 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 2: rise to that level. The jury is not stupid. The 190 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: jurors knew better, and they knew those weren't the charges 191 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: that he was actually guilty of. 192 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: I say, your guy, Brendan Paul babyface, Yes he is 193 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: running and helping. Did he running come on? 194 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: Just seeing seeing the personal assistance take the stand and 195 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: then still actually saying how much they loved and respected him. 196 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: It just it was now that you hear Mark talk 197 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: about it, and once you know, we were asking ourselves 198 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: when we were hearing all of the jury's questions and 199 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: wondering what they were thinking and which charges that, if any, 200 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: they were going to find him guilty on. And and 201 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: he obviously we saw the defense team looking deflated after 202 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: the first day of of deliberations. But then Mark told 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: the AP what he was going through that evening and 204 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: then into the night, and it was pretty fascinating to 205 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: hear where he was. 206 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: We we tried to I remember this, and I'll give 207 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: you credit for it. You came to the conclusion before 208 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Mark Agnefillo. Did I remember sitting out here? We're still here. 209 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: We've talked about we're on vacation. Now I'm sitting out 210 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: what is it ninety degrees? We are blazing out here 211 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: right now, looking at two pools in an ocean. So 212 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: all that's great, But we were sitting right out here 213 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: robes the other day and we were trying to piece 214 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: together last week when the verdicts came down, like, wait, 215 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: if they're hung up on this one, but they got 216 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: decision on those flour what does that mean? What does 217 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: that mean? Mark Agnifilo and Diddy and the team didn't 218 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: immediately know what it meant, apparently, but you put it 219 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: together just through common sense. You came up and explained 220 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: it to me. Said nope, you know what, They've only 221 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: got him on two, He said, because of sex trafficking. 222 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: If he was guilty on sex trafficking, he'd be guilty 223 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: on racketeering. They can't come to a decision on racketeering. 224 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: That means it can't be sex trafficking. That's exactly what 225 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: his turn he's figured out. 226 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: I think he said it happened he came to that 227 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 2: epiphany at three o'clock in the morning. Any immediately when 228 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: he saw did hey, he told him, you're you're gonna 229 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: be okay. They're not going to get you on racketeering 230 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: because they can't get you on sex trafficking, which means 231 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: you're probably guilty of prostitution. And didn't he say that. 232 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: He called a fellow attorney on the team and said, 233 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: let's start working on bail because let's get him out 234 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: because if he's just found guilty on transportation for prostitution, 235 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: we have a chance of getting him out of prison. 236 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: That is maybe the best detail from his interview with 237 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: the AP. And it's fascinating to me because you and 238 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: I we did this. If you all want to go 239 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: back and listen to that previous one where the day 240 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: that the jury came back and said they were deadlocked 241 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: on count one of racketeering, you and I were in 242 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: real to just look, what does this mean? 243 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: What is it? 244 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's this, maybe it's nothing, And you were 245 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: the one you said, nope, this is it, and I 246 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: agreed on the spot you are one hundred percent. 247 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: Right, because it suddenly made sense. It was funny that 248 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: our process was a little messy. We weren't. We didn't 249 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: have a planned out. We were just in real time 250 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: trying to spitball and figure out what could this mean? 251 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: What could it mean? And that's exactly what his legal 252 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: team did. And so the day that did he walked 253 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: in and that verdict was ready. The second day, he 254 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: seemed lighter, He seemed brighter because market already figured it 255 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: out and told him. And so now it's like he 256 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: had a confidence about him that he didn't have pe 257 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: step because the night before and when they left they 258 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: were hugging each other, there was concern. He told his 259 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: mom it's going to be okay, Like everybody was kind 260 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: of preparing for the potential worst, and then just an 261 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 2: epiphany happened and then suddenly there was confidence. There was 262 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: a little swagger. They knew what was coming. 263 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: It makes sense you again, I want to give you 264 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: credit because I remember that moment. Oh, I wait a second, 265 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: if they had him guilty on sex trafficking, then blah 266 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: blah blah, and it makes sense. And they figured it out. 267 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: You figured it out faster than his attorney. 268 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: Did. 269 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: I give you credit for it? They didn't figure out 270 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: They were. 271 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: Probably they were probably very emotional. We were detached and 272 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: being able to look at it from, you know, a 273 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: completely different point of view without being blurred by emotion. 274 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: Because can you even just the responsibility you feel as 275 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: an attorney, what you've probably prepared your client for, but 276 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: what you're hoping for, and then if it all goes 277 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: to shit, you know that you're the one who's going 278 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: to be blamed. 279 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: And Agnaphillo has been with him throughout. He has been 280 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: with him even before he was actually arrested. I didn't realize, 281 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: but Agnafillo told him when his homes were rated in 282 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty th four, twenty four, gave him my heads up, 283 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: You're going to be arrested for sex trafficking. He said, 284 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: they're going to arrest you for sex traffic gave him 285 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: my heads up, so they knew it was coming. Didn't 286 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: exactly know when, but they knew it was coming. So 287 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: it is this guy. I don't want to interview him. 288 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: I want to sit down and have a drink. 289 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: With him, Yeah, and just talk. It's fascinating, it really is. 290 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Hear a lot of this stuff. But folks, stay with 291 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: us here when we come back on the other side. 292 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: Here what Agnafhillo now tells us Diddy is up to 293 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: and what he is going to be doing when he 294 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: eventually gets out of prison. Stay here, all right. We 295 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: continue now talking about Mark Agnafilo giving an interview with 296 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: the Associated Press, giving us some more details and insights 297 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: into what happened happened during the Ditty trial and around 298 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: the time of the verdict, and giving us some insights 299 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: into where Diddy's head is and what he is going 300 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: to be up to when he eventually gets out of prison, 301 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: but robes while this is going on around verdict time, Right, 302 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: he gets that good news if you will, about all 303 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: the verdicts. But we have to remember he still has 304 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: all these civil cases going on. Got hit with another 305 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: one what a day or so after the verdict actually 306 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: comes down, And look, we shouldn't be surprised by that, 307 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: but it was interesting here. Cassie Ventura Fine is named 308 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: in this new lawsuit. 309 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Yes, his name is Clayton Howard and he was one 310 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: of the escorts who, according to TMZ, was a heart 311 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: of the prosecution's case. He was referred to by a pseudonym. 312 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: But he has now filed this lawsuit against Cassie and Diddy. 313 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: He says they drugged him, manipulated him, traumatized him, and 314 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: he said that Cassie reveled in Ditty's power. He painted 315 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: a very different picture of Cassie, he said. He claims 316 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: that she actually got pregnant by him, had an abortion, 317 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: didn't tell him. He claims he got an st D 318 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: from Cassie. I mean, he has put in some pretty 319 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: pretty outrageous details into this lawsuit and he we don't 320 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: of course, but he is speaking to a completely different 321 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: side of Cassie that was not talked about in court. 322 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: He very much said that Cassie embraced Ditty's power, that 323 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: he she used his power to manipulate him. So he, yeah, 324 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: has named them both and so yeah him, why didn't 325 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: they call him? I don't know that answer, you know, and. 326 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: We're aware of him that did he have a different 327 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: story to tell that didn't go along with the case 328 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: they were trying to put on. That question will certainly 329 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: be asked, what you say, This is a guy they 330 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: were aware of and all of this, the detail he 331 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: appears to have, this is wild and we were talking 332 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: about Look, he is not. Look, people are on the 333 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: fence about it. How much was it consensual versus corrosion? 334 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: This back and forth, he is painting a picture of 335 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: her being a partner in crime with Ditty and they 336 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: as a duo are responsible for assaulting him. 337 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Correct, And he also kind of well he doesn't kind of. 338 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: He goes after the prosecution saying that they were very 339 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: much aware that Cassie was what he said was a 340 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: co conspirator with Ditty, But he says they only cared 341 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: about getting Ditty, so they didn't mind putting Cassie up 342 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: as a victim when in his experience he claims she 343 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: wasn't because they only cared about bringing Diddy down. 344 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Wow, So yes, that's still out there. We probably need 345 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: to do an update at some point. Yeah, the actual lawsuits, Yes, 346 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: like to get there is a collection out there of 347 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: the actual number and the count Go ahead, would. 348 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: You Well, I was just gonna say, if you were 349 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: paying close attention to the trial, he was identified as 350 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: Dave during the racketeering trial, according to him, so there 351 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 2: were a few times where the prosecution referred to and 352 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: talked about this male exotic sex worker as Dave. He 353 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: says that was him. So he said, believe me, the 354 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: US Attorney's office knew my snore story, knew all about it. 355 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: They just didn't like what I had to say about Cassie, 356 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: and that's why he wasn't put up on the stand. 357 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: And he according to him, there was some claim about 358 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: a delay. It was something with his attorney for why 359 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: why they didn't want the lawsuit to drop while the 360 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: trial was still going. 361 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: Correct, Because he was asked about that, he said he 362 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: did try. He said he wanted to file his civil 363 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: suit before or at least during the trial or whatever. 364 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: But he says his attorney, Tyrone Blackburn, was actually trying 365 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: to protect Cassie's reputation during the trial, so he wouldn't 366 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: allow his lawsuit to go forward until after the trial 367 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: so as to protect Cassie. These are all of his allegations. 368 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: So yes, that's still happening. But yet, no matter what 369 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: happens with Diddy, and we talked about it robes anywhere 370 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: from the prosecution asking for as little as well. Was 371 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: it nine twenty one months, yes, and he served almost 372 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: ten now, so he might end up with just another 373 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: year in jail. The prosecution is asking for up to 374 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: five years, but again he served nine or ten months, 375 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: so worst case scenario, we're talking about four. 376 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 2: Years, and that's no one ever serves their actual sentence. 377 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: So he's looking at the most a couple of years 378 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: and that's it and he'll be out. 379 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: Is there a chance the judge doesn't send us them 380 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: to anything, because they're pretty plenty of legal experts saying 381 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: if this was a run of the meal person who 382 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: with no criminal background, with no convictions, no nothing, had 383 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: these charges, they go home. 384 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: Who knows, they we'd go home. 385 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: But Agnefield, he didn't tell as much about how did 386 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: he was doing? Said he's okay. That's pretty much always 387 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: okay about did he being okay? But Rose, he's always 388 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: already talking about whenever did he gets out of prison, 389 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: we know immediately what did he's going to be doing? 390 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: And is not getting back into the studio. Is not 391 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: trying to rebuild any type of Combs enterprise or bad 392 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: boy entertainment. He's working on himself. 393 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: Yes, he said he's going to enter a program and 394 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: actually he said re enter a program for domestic abusers. 395 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: He said he had started the process before he was arrested. 396 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: He says that did he recognizes that he has a 397 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: lot of personal issues. I believe he said he has 398 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: personal flaws that he's now come to realize he has, 399 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: and that no amount of fame, no amount of fortune, 400 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: will erase him. That he has to do the work. 401 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: And so he says that his client is prepared to 402 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: do the work. I believe he said, yes, did he 403 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: burns hot in all matters? I mean, so basically he's admitting, 404 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: they're admitting that he has a massive anger issue or 405 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, anger management issue. He can't control his rage. 406 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: Do we take look. I don't know is there a 407 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: redemption in this? It's hard when you see the video. 408 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: What do we do? I mean, what do we do? 409 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we got years to figure that out. If 410 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: somebody never wants to see this man's face again, I 411 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: hear his name, I hear a single song, I would say, Okay, 412 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I don't know what, grace. I don't 413 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: know how to go about when it's something this that 414 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: we saw and we heard so much about being that egregious. No, 415 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it's mob boss type stuff, but some 416 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: pretty awful stuff it is. 417 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: I am somebody who believes that most people can can 418 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: redeem themselves. But it's going to take a lot of time, 419 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: a lot of years, a lot of work, and a 420 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: lot of hard work, and he's going to have to 421 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: prove it publicly. I don't I mean, I don't know 422 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: that he'll. I mean, it's hard to imagine he'd ever 423 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: become anywhere close to the success he was beforehand. But 424 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 2: you know what, I am a believer in I am 425 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: a believer in redemption. But you have to do the time. 426 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 2: You have to pay the consequences first, and then you 427 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: have to do the work. I think you have to 428 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: have I mean, rehabilitation is huge and important, but I 429 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: think you have to you have to do the time first. 430 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: You have to be punished first. And that's what he's 431 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: going through right now. 432 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: Was that where we are, we're deciding whether or not 433 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: justice has been served based on the crimes that we saw. Yeah, 434 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: so what is the what is justice? Is it? So 435 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: many years in prison? Does it matter what the charge is? 436 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean al Capone went to prison for tax evasion. 437 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: Correct the number of people he was responsible for killing 438 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: and the harm he did, but he still went to prison. 439 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean, is that justice? I don't. 440 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: It's a version of it. It might not be perfect, 441 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: but it's a version of it. And I think everyone 442 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: of the judge agreed that did he needed to stay 443 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: behind bars, that he was not someone that they could trust, 444 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: not only to not as a flight risk, but also 445 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: just his violent nature. And that makes a lot of sense. 446 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: So he you know, they got whether they say retribution 447 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: before rehabilitation. That is what's happening now, and it's good 448 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: to hear that. That is his plan when he gets 449 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: out is to go directly into a program for abusers. 450 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Look those the women involved, Look I believe Mia yep, 451 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: I believe Jane, I believe cass even to refine, I 452 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: believe saying the stories they have. I believe that every 453 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: bit of those stories should be applied to a case 454 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: to put him away for domestic abuse, for whatever, violence, 455 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: for threats for what. I agree, no argument. 456 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: Just not for racketeering and conspiracy and sex trafficking. 457 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: No argument people have. But I think that's now, unfortunately 458 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: to speeding that he got away with beating women. He 459 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: got away with abusing women. 460 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: And that's the prosecution's fault, and that's just that's just 461 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: my humble opinion. And Tuesday tomorrow we are going to 462 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: get maybe a little bit more of a sense as 463 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: to when his sentencing will actually take place. It was 464 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: announced October third at the trial, but then the judge 465 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: decided that he would hear the defense's argument to expedite 466 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: that hearing so that he could go ahead and get 467 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: an earlier sentencing date so we can continue serving his time. 468 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: He's getting credit for time served. But we'll have more 469 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: information tomorrow after that. It's a video conference that's happening. 470 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think just nothing in open court of 471 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: any kind. I don't think the public's going to see that. 472 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: I think is just really a private conference with the job. 473 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: I think that happens right, judges and the attorneys, yep, 474 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: just going to discuss so we should get some info 475 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: and see when he might be sentence. But they're trying 476 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: to speed this thing along. They've won now, let's the 477 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: clock is ticking on him getting out of jail. 478 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: Period. All right, Well, we will continue to update you, 479 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: believe me, anytime we get any more details about what happened. 480 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: We've heard from a futurors we've heard from but nothing, 481 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: nothing significant, So there's probably a lot more details to 482 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: come out, and certainly we'll let you know what happened 483 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: with tomorrow's conference. But thank you for listening to us. 484 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: As always, we appreciate you. I'm Ami robock On, behalf 485 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: of my partner T. J. Holmes. I hope you all 486 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: have a wonderful day today.