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Speaker 1: KKL nine CBS two investigative reporter about an enormous amount

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Speaker 1: of money spent by the LA Unified School District on

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Speaker 1: of all things, hand sanitizer, which apparently much of which

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Speaker 1: has gone to waste, was never used, just sitting there

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Speaker 1: hear his report right after the news at three o'clock

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Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about one of the biggest reparation

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Speaker 1: stories of all time making headlines out of course San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: We have some developments in the Idaho college student murder case.

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Speaker 1: It all of course involves the man accused of killing

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Speaker 1: the four students, Brian Coburger, in late October. They're now

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Speaker 1: saying that he sent to greeting to one of the

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Speaker 1: female victims, a DM on Instagram. He didn't get a reply.

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Speaker 1: He sent several more. Basically it was just him saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you, but he kept doing it. They're not

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Speaker 1: saying which of the girls DM was involved. We do

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Speaker 1: know that kay league On Calvis was one of the

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Speaker 1: first victims and really took brutal stab wounds from whoever

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Speaker 1: did this, and of course we believe it's Coburger. So

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Speaker 1: this is probably a faint avenue of connection between Coburger

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Speaker 1: well and the victims that he was probably aware of them.

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Speaker 1: He didn't just go into that house randomly. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it's actually a pretty pretty striking, pretty striking connection

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Speaker 1: because he had picked up whatever her social media. He

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Speaker 1: knew her name, knew the social media account, and we

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's Kaylee. They're not saying which. One

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Speaker 1: of the fun I remember, I remember the dad saying

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Speaker 1: that he had reason to believe that there was some

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Speaker 1: kind of connection. He said, there's some kind of connection,

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Speaker 1: and he couldn't talk about it now. I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: police asked him not to talk about it, but they

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Speaker 1: may have already because the first thing you would do

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Speaker 1: is go to all their social media accounts and see

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Speaker 1: who they're friends with or who's been trying to contact

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Speaker 1: them right through direct messages. So maybe he turned up

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Speaker 1: because they were suspecting him early on, they just didn't

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Speaker 1: tell anyone. And again, the next hearing isn't until June

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth in this case because Koberger put it off.

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Speaker 1: The other story making news this afternoon is that he

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Speaker 1: was on social media, but it's ten eleven, twelve years

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Speaker 1: ago that he was posting to a forum where he

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Speaker 1: said things like that he had crazy thoughts and delusions

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Speaker 1: of grandeur and also said that he had a condition.

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Speaker 1: This one I've never heard of visual snow syndrome. Have

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Speaker 1: you hear that one? Do you remember an old TV's

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Speaker 1: if you had a channel that didn't have a station broadcasting,

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Speaker 1: you would just get white and black dots and it

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Speaker 1: looked like snow and that noise. Yes, right, you don't

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Speaker 1: see that anymore, but the old over the air system,

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Speaker 1: that's what you get. With the station went off the air,

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Speaker 1: you get this. There's a condition. I've never heard of

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Speaker 1: it either, But a person sees static, Yeah, he sees

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Speaker 1: this snow in front of him. And I guess that

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Speaker 1: further made him insane, because I've been reading about this

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Speaker 1: for a few weeks and I haven't read that it

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Speaker 1: ever that can be treated. It's really rare. And it

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Speaker 1: never went away on him. It was like, I guess

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Speaker 1: some kind of brain disruption, wrote in January twenty and

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Speaker 1: I've had VS since September twenty first, two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: Since then, I have changed mainly from the anxiety and

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Speaker 1: sense of de realization and hopelessness. Back in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: he wrote, I've become very deep and determined on goals.

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Speaker 1: It made me smarter. He had depression, no interest in activity,

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Speaker 1: constant thoughts of suicide, crazy thoughts, delusions of grandeur, anxiety,

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Speaker 1: poor self image, poor social skills, no emotion when I

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Speaker 1: get that's the kind of detachment of a killer, isn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: When I get home, I am mean to my family.

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Speaker 1: This started when the visual snow did. I felt no emotion,

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Speaker 1: and along with the depersonalization, I can say and do

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Speaker 1: whatever I wish with little remorse. Actually, yeah, because everybody's

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Speaker 1: just static. So how would you have any connection to people?

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Speaker 1: As I hugged my family, I look into their faces,

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Speaker 1: I see nothing. It is like I'm looking at a

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Speaker 1: video game but less. I am blank. I have no opinion,

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Speaker 1: I have no emotion. I have nothing. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: literally walk around, aren't you kind of blind? If all

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Speaker 1: you see is static? I don't I see that. I

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Speaker 1: don't have the sense on how much it interferes, because

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Speaker 1: he was driving around and studying its school. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if this is just a persistent irritation that

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Speaker 1: you can work through or what, or if it comes

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Speaker 1: and goes. I don't know. I don't know either. But

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Speaker 1: I clearly clearly he had terrible brain disruptions in his head,

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Speaker 1: and he I mean, I mean, when you had no emotion.

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Speaker 1: You're that's what a psychopath is. Someone who has no

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Speaker 1: feeling at all, feels nothing. Oh yeah, there's no connection

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Speaker 1: to other human being, completely blank. Stabbing them to death

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Speaker 1: means nothing. Right. The other development is coming from people that,

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Speaker 1: of course want to appine on the case. A professor

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Speaker 1: emeritus of criminology and founding director of the Center for

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Speaker 1: Applied Criminology This is at Alabama, said that he thinks

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Speaker 1: that Coburger may have left the knife sheath on purpose

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Speaker 1: at the crime scene. I haven't been able to fathom

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Speaker 1: this one either. He called it a clever move because

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Speaker 1: one of the things that really struck me about this

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Speaker 1: person that's been arrested and accused of this, he's intelligent

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Speaker 1: and high functioning with a highly skilled, intelligent student who's

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Speaker 1: teaching criminology, makes such a basic era, and he's thinking

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Speaker 1: that he did this to sort of trap the prosecution. Well,

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Speaker 1: every you know, there's always a cromp contrarian guy who

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Speaker 1: wants to get his ten minutes on television, So you

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Speaker 1: say the opposite. We've done this with many murder cases

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Speaker 1: in the past. You have to look at the accumulation

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Speaker 1: of circumstantial evidence they can pick it one thing at

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Speaker 1: a time, like they're talking about the cell phone things. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course he didn't live far away from the murder house. See,

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Speaker 1: you could have been in the area just because he

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Speaker 1: lives just a few miles away. That's coincidental. That's what

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Speaker 1: they tried to do. It. That's a silly game. You

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Speaker 1: can play that game, and it's more relevant before you

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Speaker 1: have a suspect, before the details come out. But once

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Speaker 1: you have DNA and the cell phone pings and the identity,

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Speaker 1: then you're just you're just pleasuring yourself. There's no point

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Speaker 1: to it, and you could spend all day going well,

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Speaker 1: what if this? Well what if that? What if? This's?

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Speaker 1: Like shut up, the DNA is there, it's over. Oh

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Speaker 1: and another one said that might be his calling card.

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Speaker 1: I think he may have murdered before he leaves behind

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Speaker 1: a knife sheath. All right, let me come back. I

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Speaker 1: think it's possible he did this before. We'll play the

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Speaker 1: special investigative report by David Goldstein on the Big Waste

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Speaker 1: of Money. Well, this is news LA Unified School District

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