1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty, and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: So later this. 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 4: Hour will place a clip or two just to give 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 4: you a flavor of what the Kamala Harris Brett Baar 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 4: interview was like and what some of the responses have been, 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: whether it's the lefties on MSNBC, or what jd Vance 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: thought of. 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: It, or what Trump thought about it. 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 4: He tweeted out about it today, So we'll get to that, 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: the short version being I don't think it's gonna make 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: any difference in this presidential election. Everything is baked in 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: as it has been for quite some time. So more 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: in that coming up later. We talk a lot about 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 4: crime and punishment on this radio show, like a lot 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: of people do in the country. It's one of the 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: top issues everywhere all the time. And Katie, Katie, Katie 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: the news lady, her dad was a judge, he's now 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: a retired judge, and thought it would be cool to 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: talk to him at some length about a whole bunch 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 4: of different stuff. 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Katie introduce her own dad. 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, judge in Oakland for thirty three plus years. 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 6: Thirty three thirty three plus yep. 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: Known to some as Judge Larry Goodman, known to others 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 5: as LL Dog and daddy O. 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: So here he. 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: Is here, Come here, pops, Judge, thanks for coming back 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: on the Armstrong and Getty Show. Appreciated how you How 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: you like in retirement? By the way, not everybody adjusts 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 4: well to retirement. 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 7: I love it. 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: I love it, No, adjudgtment problem. 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 7: No, because it got to be a point where remember 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 7: Sunday nights when you were in school and you hated 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 7: Sunday nights because you had to go to school. Yeah, 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 7: never felt that until right before I retired, and it 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 7: was like I knew it was time at that point. 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: Interesting stuck around long enough? Yeah yeah. So before I 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 4: get into some like specific questions I have, do you 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: think you have an overall takeaway from all those years 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: of being judge a judge just about society and order 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: and crime in general in Oakland? 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, not so much overall. I mean, you see good people, 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 7: you see bad people. Oakland is particularly depressing at times, 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 7: just because it's it's overwhelming and the kind of cases 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 7: I did you just life was so cheap and there 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 7: was really no concert. There was consequences, but it didn't 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 7: seem to stop anybody from acting out. So but overall, 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 7: it's it's a job, just like everything else. The only 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 7: you feel like you're contributing a little bit by being 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 7: part of the judicial system or the justice system. But 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 7: outside of that, it's not like any shattering awareness that 55 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 7: I have. 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: Now, Well, do you think most people who commit crimes, 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 4: particularly bad crimes, because of they're just born to be bad? 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 4: Or do you think there's an environment they came from. 59 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 7: I think most of them are. It's the environment. I 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 7: think it's life is cheap. Would you like to sell 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 7: burgers at McDonald's or sell drugs? And if you sell drugs, 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 7: you hang more gold and you drive better cars. So 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 7: I think that's what I'll do. But there's a certain 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 7: risk involved in that, but I'm willing to take it. 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 7: And that's what they see, that's who their role models are, 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 7: and that's what they do. 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know the statistics on this, 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: but were the vast majority of people that would come 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: before you guilty found guilty? 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, I had three? Three I tried According to 71 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 7: my clerk one hundred and seventeen murder trials, I had 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 7: three not guilty verdicts. 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Really, and in your opinion, do you think they were 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: not guilty? 75 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 7: One of them in a death penalty case, he was 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 7: definitely guilty. 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: The other two and it was found non guilty and 78 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: found out not guilty. 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 7: Yeah. Interesting, he killed both his sisters and tried to 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 7: kill his parents. But that's a long story for another time. 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 7: But the other two they probably did it, but the 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 7: evidence wasn't all that great. 83 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: But so most of the time, if specifically a murder 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: gets to a courtroom, they did it. 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 7: The chances are pretty good. I mean, they've gone through 86 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 7: the charging, the screening before the charging, they've gone through 87 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 7: a grand jury or a preliminary hearing, They've gone through 88 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 7: all the pre trial motions. By that time, it's been 89 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 7: reviewed quite a few times. And so it may not 90 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 7: be a murder. It may not be a first degree murder, 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 7: it may be a second, it may be a manslaughter. 92 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 7: But they pretty sure that they killed somebody. 93 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 4: And I suppose because of limited resources and time, you know, money, 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: all that you wouldn't pursue it unless you're pretty sure 95 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: they were guilty. 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: On the prosecution. 97 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 7: Sign in Alameda County, where I worked, we had used 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 7: to have not anymore. They had one of the best 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 7: DA's offices in the country, and so there was a 100 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 7: lot of checks and balances, and nobody really went to 101 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 7: trial unless they were pretty sure they had the right person, 102 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 7: although I will say I did one trial. After about 103 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 7: three witnesses, the DA came in and said, you know, 104 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 7: I think we got this one wrong. We're going to 105 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 7: dismiss the case. 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: Wow. 107 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: So you weren't in the era or place of these 108 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: das who don't want to charge anybody with anything to 109 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 4: try to make some sort of point about society. 110 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 7: No, that's one of the other reasons I'm glad I'm out, 111 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 7: because I'd be getting in trouble all the time. 112 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 4: So how would you have handled that as a judge 113 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: or would you have had any role in it whatsoever? 114 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: If if your local, if you got a gascon or 115 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: whoever that just doesn't want to prosecute crime. 116 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, eventually what happens. I have a friend 117 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 7: of mine who's still sitting on the bench, and he's 118 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 7: been challenged by the DA because he wouldn't go along 119 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 7: with all of her issues. Or all the things she 120 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 7: was trying to do. He kept denying motions to strike 121 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 7: priors or strike that, so they finally filed a blanket challenge. 122 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 7: So he went from criminal into probate. 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: Oh so that's interesting. Back to the violent crime. So 124 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: you've had a lot of violent criminals come before you do. 125 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 4: They tend to regret what they did at the point 126 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: that they're in a courtroom. And I don't mean like 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: regret it because they got caught, but if they could 128 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: go back, they wish they hadn't done it. 129 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 7: Very few, very few. I mean, I'm sure some of 130 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 7: them deep inside might have felt that way, but it's 131 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 7: kind of a sign of weakness if they do that. 132 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 7: I most of them kind of maintained the aura of 133 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 7: I'm a criminal and I didn't do it, but you're 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 7: gonna and if I did do it, you got to 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 7: prove it. But I'm not going to say I did 136 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 7: it and I'm sorry. Once in a while it's sentencing, 137 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 7: they will address the family of the victim and say 138 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, But not up until that point. 139 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 4: You said, these people live in a world where life 140 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: is cheap. Expound on that a little bit. They just, 141 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: for some reason because of their youth or environment. They 142 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: just don't get what. 143 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 7: I don't think they think that they're going to live 144 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 7: that long because they see a lot of their peers 145 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 7: get shot or get killed, and so it's kind of 146 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 7: like a live why you can go fast and go 147 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 7: hard because you're not going to be here that long. 148 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 7: And so you look at me, funny while I'm standing 149 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 7: on the street corner and I come back and I 150 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 7: shoot you, because that's the kind of a unwritten rule 151 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 7: of the streets. You don't disrespect somebody without having consequences. 152 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 7: And people get shot over the dumbest things. Or I'll 153 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 7: shoot at you and I'll hit a twelve year old 154 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 7: girl across the street because I miss, But that's collateral damage, 155 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 7: and I really don't think about it. I just move on. 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 7: And that was just kind of the mindset that we 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 7: saw a lot of. 158 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: Did you have people come into your courtroom with as 159 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: flimsy a reason for killing somebody as you just described. 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 7: Oh sure, oh yeah, lots of times. 161 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: Okay, give me some examples. 162 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 7: Well, we had the gun well I used to call 163 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 7: it the gunfight at the OK Corral. It was the 164 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 7: gunfight at ninety eight. The needs in Oakland, and one 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 7: gang got disrespected by another game because somebody disrespected the 166 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 7: guy's car. He said that car looks like this and 167 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 7: looks like that, and it was his pride and joy. 168 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 7: So one group of kids is in the liquor store 169 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 7: buying liquor, and this other group rolls up and opens 170 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 7: fire with semiautomatic weapons and kills three people. The other 171 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 7: gang he finally gets their guns out and shoots back, 172 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 7: and one of them misses, and the bullet goes across 173 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 7: the street and hits a guy getting gas and lodges 174 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 7: in his neck and he has a stroke and he 175 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 7: loses his ability to talk. And all the people that 176 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 7: we did the trial for, they had no remorse whatsoever. 177 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 7: A matter of fact, I had to keep pulling this 178 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 7: one kid out because he kept disrespecting and saying rude 179 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 7: things to the one of the victims mothers who came 180 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 7: to address the court. 181 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and how old were these people. 182 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, when he did it, he was seventeen, which is 183 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 7: entitled him to have another re sentencing under the new 184 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 7: laws in California. I sentenced him sixty five years to 185 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 7: life or something like that, but that he was seventeen 186 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 7: when he did the crime, so he was entitled to 187 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 7: be re sentenced. I don't know what he got again, 188 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 7: but do. 189 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: You keep track of people after you sentenced him? 190 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 7: The only I kept track of two people, and they 191 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 7: weren't even murder cases. They were multiple sexual assault cases. 192 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 7: And one one guy was a retired law enforcement officer 193 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 7: who continually raped his stepdaughter and he came up for parole, 194 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 7: and I was asked to write a letter, and I'd 195 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 7: never done it before, but he actually raped his step son, 196 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 7: who kind of gave him. He gave himself up to 197 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 7: protect his step daughter, and the son ended up killing himself. 198 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 7: So I wrote a letter saying he should I sentenced 199 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 7: him to ninety nine years, but he's now in his 200 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 7: sixty so he's eligible for elder parole or whatever they 201 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 7: call it. And I wrote a letter saying I sentenced 202 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 7: him for that long ever getting out and he didn't 203 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 7: know his steps killed himself. So once he found that out, 204 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 7: he withdrew his request for a parole and he's still 205 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 7: in there. 206 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: So I've always believed that on a lot of the 207 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: sexual stuff, their brains don't work right. 208 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: They were, they were, they were, They're born in such 209 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: a way or whatever. 210 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: Their brains don't work right as opposed to the other 211 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: thing you were talking about, the you know, you grew 212 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: up in an environment where you run with gangs in 213 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: the more environmental than your brain doesn't work well. 214 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 7: The sexual the in home sexual predators like this guy, 215 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 7: Ron Roy Chass, I still remember his name. He's probably 216 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 7: not wired right. But some of them are just mean, 217 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 7: vicious people that it's you know, rape is not about sex, 218 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 7: it's about violence and about control, and so some of 219 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 7: these people are just violent sexual predators who just like 220 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 7: to inflict that kind of pain on people. 221 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: How how do you and this is tough for cops 222 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: and prosecutors and people work in prisons, all kinds of 223 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: different people, how do you keep your sense of humanity 224 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: in that most of us are good and most of 225 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: us don't do that When you're encountering these people all 226 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: the time, it's got to wear on you. 227 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, I was lucky enough to have Patty and 228 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 7: Katie and come home and be able to you know, 229 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 7: coach Katie and sports and hang out with her and 230 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 7: my wife, and you just kind of leave it at work. 231 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 7: And I don't think I tried real hard not to 232 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 7: bring any of that stuff home, even when it was 233 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 7: a high publicity stuff, when we didn't talk about it, 234 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 7: we didn't watch it on the news or read the newspapers. 235 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 7: You just try to when you leave the office, you 236 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 7: just try to leave it there because it will wear 237 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 7: on you. I mean, I had a couple of cases 238 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 7: that to this day I still don't like to talk 239 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 7: about them. But most of the time you're able to 240 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 7: leave it at work. 241 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. 242 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: We're talking to Katie's dad, who is a was a 243 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: judge for a very long time, is retired. 244 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: Now what do you do? Mostly you fish your hunt? Yeah, 245 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: what do you What do you do? 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 7: I work out, I play guitar, trying to get back 247 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 7: into golf, which will probably shorten my lifespan exactly. We 248 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 7: still have a boat that we're keeping Crapifornia that we 249 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 7: go out and stay on for a while. 250 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: To that story, we got to talk about you getting 251 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: robbed in your old hometown and what that was like, 252 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: because this is just a story about the lawlessness of 253 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: some areas of the country, among other things. All the way, 254 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 4: stay here. Why are we playing this song? One of 255 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: the most popular karaoke songs. Ever, it's very popular among 256 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: the gay crowd, very popular among women divorcing their husbands. 257 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: Gloria Gaynor has died at the age of something or other. 258 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: She will long be remembered to this tune. Somebody will 259 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: be singing this at karaoke tonight with tears in their 260 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: eyes as Gloria Gaynor has passed. Maybe we'll do our 261 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: loving tribute next half hour. For now, we're talking with 262 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: the judge we'd known as Katie's dad around here, Judge Goodman, 263 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 4: Judge Larry, who's been telling us about being a judge 264 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 4: for over three decades in northern California and just crime 265 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 4: and punishment in general and stuff like that. But interesting, 266 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: So you moved to Idaho to escape in California or 267 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: your whole life. 268 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 7: We moved to California in nineteen fifty five, and except 269 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 7: for going away for college and law school, I lived 270 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 7: in Castro Valley that whole time. 271 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: And like so many people, you fled California because it 272 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: sucks a lot of it, the taxes, the crime, the homelessness, 273 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: all that is really hard to put up with, depending 274 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: on the area that you live in. And you left also, 275 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: so you're in Idaho. Now you came back the other day. 276 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: Tell us what happened. 277 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 7: Well, we keep our boat in Alameda because one thing 278 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 7: we do miss is the ocean and stuff like that. 279 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 7: So we were having some people to go out on 280 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 7: the boat for the Blue Angels. So we were on 281 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 7: our way to the grocery store to get some things. 282 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 7: We go out to the parking lot and I look, 283 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 7: and I said, honey, our tires are gone, and there 284 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 7: was the Toyota Corolla sitting. They brought their own blocks, 285 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 7: so there was blocks under each of the doors, and 286 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 7: they left the lug nuts, but all four tires were gone. 287 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: With the wheels. Yeah, tires was so. 288 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: So you're back in California, which you fled because of 289 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: the crime and the homelessness and the taxes and all 290 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. You come back briefly and your 291 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: rental car gets all four wheels stolen off of it. 292 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm like a junkie. I had to come back 293 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 7: from my crime fix. 294 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: I guess that is an amazing story and so emblematic 295 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: of why you can't hardly ever get a U haul 296 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: in California because there are so many people fleeing the 297 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: states and the funny part. 298 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 7: About is the lady that rented us the car, she said, 299 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 7: now you'd be careful because they'll steal everything. And when 300 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 7: you go get gas, you keep your eye open because 301 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 7: they'll break the passenger door window and steal your purse. 302 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 7: I mean, she went through this whole litany of things 303 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 7: that were going to happen, and sure enough, the day 304 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 7: after that happened to us. 305 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 306 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: Back to you judging and crime and punishment and what 307 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: you've learned over all the decades of being in the system, 308 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: I've always been I'm a big believer in the US 309 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: justice system, and I've always just I've never been afraid 310 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: of being falsely accused of anything like that because I 311 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 4: just feel like the justice system generally works. Is that 312 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: your assessment after decades of being involved in it, the 313 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: vast majority of the time we get it right. 314 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 7: I think so absolutely. I mean, like I said, we 315 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 7: were always a little bit better than a lot of 316 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: places in Alameda County. But yeah, I think for the 317 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 7: most part, it works the way it's supposed to. 318 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: And for places that it doesn't work as well, what 319 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 4: would cause that? 320 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 7: Just an overload of cases. Sometimes things get shuffled through 321 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 7: that shouldn't get shuffled through. There are places where based 322 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 7: upon how you look and how you act, sometimes you 323 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 7: get charged. They're built in prejudices in some places. I 324 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 7: taught at the National Judges College and Reno one day 325 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 7: and the judges from Louisiana, a certain part of Louisiana 326 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 7: came up and we're kind of making fun of us 327 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 7: from California about how long it took us to pick 328 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 7: juris and death penalty cases and everything, and really so 329 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 7: it's just kind of a different mindset. 330 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should ask you about that. 331 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: California has the death penalty but doesn't actually put anybody 332 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: to death. The leading cause of death on death row 333 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: in California is old age. We taxpayers spend gazillions of 334 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: dollars on this and nobody actually dies. Are you four 335 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: or against the death penalty? 336 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 337 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 7: I was fo it. I sentenced nine people to death 338 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 7: I think, and one of them die to liver failure. 339 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 7: The rest of them will probably outlive me. 340 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's the problem with it. We're not getting 341 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: it and nobody's dying. So I don't like paying for it. 342 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: I don't mind capital punishment. I'm against it for the 343 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: it's not practical if nobody's dying standpoint. 344 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, if we're not going to do it, we shouldn't 345 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 7: have it. 346 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on. 347 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: I just want to ask you some questions about your 348 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: experience as a judge, and whenever a big case hits, 349 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: we'll go to you for expertise. As always, I appreciate it. 350 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: Thanks Jack, you bet you. That's Judge Goodman, who happens 351 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: to be Katie's dad. So we're gonna play a little 352 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 4: clip or two of you of Kamala Harris's big interview 353 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: with Brett bhar on Fox yesterday, some of the reaction 354 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: to that, and there is confirmation that Sinwar, the leader 355 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: of Hamas, is dead. 356 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: Israel got him. 357 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: I wonder what that means for where things stand in 358 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: the midd least A lot more on the way, stay. 359 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 8: Here, Armstrong and Geeddy. 360 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: They're actually just taking a look at the Drudge. 361 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: Page, which back in the day I looked at. That 362 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 4: was like the first thing I looked at every morning 363 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: for years, for years. And I don't think anybody's sure 364 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 4: what the following of the falling out was between. 365 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: Drudge and Trump. Does anybody know what that was? 366 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: But anyway, Drudge hates Trump, and even though he was 367 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: the go to conservative headlines place for many, many, many years, 368 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: Drudge hates Trump. And I don't look at Drudge as 369 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: much anymore. And I'm not even exactly sure. I don't 370 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: remember why I moved away from it. I think there 371 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: were a bunch of things that started to not be. 372 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: Accurate any Matt Drudge sold the Drudge Report right a 373 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: while ago, and it's I think a point to the 374 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: Auto family or something like that, and they're really big 375 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: non trumpers. 376 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: So he apparently just didn't care who he sold it to, 377 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: or I don't guess. 378 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 4: I don't. 379 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 6: I don't know what the reasoning was there. 380 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 4: The only reason I bring it up is the lead 381 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: on Drudge is one direction down, Liam Payne dead at 382 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 4: thirty one, so not not anything about the election, not 383 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: Kamala Harrison interview, not the fact that Sinwar has been 384 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: killed the leader of Hamas by Israel. 385 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: Their leads to arky, what is the guy. 386 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: From one Direction dying? Who do they think their audience is? 387 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 4: The average reader of Drudge is like my dad. I mean, 388 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: it's got to average Drudge reader's gotta be sixty five. 389 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: If not older, which is kind of funny. I don't 390 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: you know, not important. I just am so shocked by that. 391 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 6: You know, I'm looking at it right now. 392 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 5: It is the lead story with like eight links deep 393 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 5: underneath it for reference articles. 394 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 6: Unreal. 395 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah huh, there. 396 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 6: Are bigger things happening in the world. 397 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: That just a heads up. Any who. 398 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris did an interview with Brett Baer and it 399 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: was we were all on a group text chatting about 400 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: it was kind of fun. Everybody was uncomfortable right off 401 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: the bat because, as you'll hear here, this is the 402 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 4: beginning of it. If in case you didn't see it, 403 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: she tried to fillibuster from the beginning, and Brett knew, Man, 404 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: if I'm going to get anything answered, I'm gonna have 405 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: to interrupt her. 406 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: So this is how the opening sounded. 407 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 9: You know, voters tell polsters all over the country and 408 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 9: here in Pennsylvania that immigration is one of the key 409 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 9: issues that they're looking at this election, and specifically the 410 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 9: influx of illegal immigrants from more than one hundred and 411 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 9: fifty countries. How many legal immigrants would you estimate your 412 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 9: administration has released into the country over the last three 413 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 9: and a half years. 414 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because 415 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 3: I agree with you. It is it is a topic 416 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: of discussion that people want to rightly have and you 417 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm going to talk about. 418 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're just a number. 419 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 9: Do you think it's one million, three million? 420 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: Brett. 421 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: Let's just get to the point, Okay. The point is 422 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: that we have a broken immigration system that needs to 423 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: be repaired. 424 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 9: So your allmand Security secretary said that eighty five percent 425 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 9: of apprehensions. 426 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 6: I'm not finished. 427 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 9: We have a we have a refreshment of six million 428 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 9: people have been released into the country, and let me 429 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 9: just finish. 430 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 7: I'll get you the question. 431 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: I promise you. 432 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: I was beginning to answer. 433 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: So that's where it was right off the bat, and 434 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: she had that weird thing. 435 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: It's of where she said. 436 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: The first thing she said was, I'm glad you bring 437 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: that up, because that is an issue that is important 438 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 4: to Americans to all understand and be concerned with. 439 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: And that is prudence to the you know, what are 440 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: you doing here, ma'am? 441 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 6: This is a wendy right. 442 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: So he jumped in with some stats to try to 443 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: nail it down, and as you're gonna hear here in 444 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: a little bit. 445 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: If you like her, you felt like. 446 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: You know, she got under the skin of the right 447 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: wing maga white male, and if you were predisposed to 448 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: not like her, you feel like she didn't want to 449 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: answer any questions. Here's Brett by the way, the host 450 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: of the interview, explaining a little of the behind the scenes. 451 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 4: He did this later in the day on how this 452 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: all went down. It was. 453 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: It was a little tense. 454 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 9: We were given the time of five pm Eastern Time. 455 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 9: Obviously my show is at six pm. They wanted to 456 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 9: tape at five pm. We said we were going to 457 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 9: tape as live, in other words, rolled the tape and 458 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 9: then just turned that around unedited, uninterrupted. But we had 459 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 9: to do it before five point fifteen otherwise we couldn't 460 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 9: turn the whole machine around before the top of the 461 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 9: six pm show. So we were waiting at four fifty five, 462 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 9: and then five and then five zero five and then 463 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 9: five ten. At five seventeen, the vice president walked out. 464 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 9: So it did feel a little bit like they're icing 465 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 9: the kicker or trying to Yeah. 466 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean she showed up seventeen minutes late to 467 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 4: have less time for him to do the interviewer and 468 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: the whole ice the kicker thing. That's a football reference 469 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: where if the other team's about to kick a field 470 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 4: goal to win the game, you call a time out 471 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: just to have the kicker stand there and be uncomfortable 472 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: for a couple of minutes and maybe miss. So she 473 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: was the icing the kicker by not showing up and 474 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 4: hoping that Brett Bahr gets more uncomfortable, you know, running 475 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: out of time and everything like that. I guarantee you 476 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: he was scratching questions off his list where he thought, well, 477 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: I'd better move this, get rid of this one, get 478 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: rid of this one, or I'm only gonna have time 479 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 4: for these. 480 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 481 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 5: I saw on Hannity he said he had seventy five 482 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 5: questions prepared. 483 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 484 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how many answered or actually asked. 485 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 4: He also said this. 486 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 9: This was kind of a sense that she was going 487 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 9: to keep on talking and that if I wanted to 488 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 9: get through and redirect, I was going to have to interrupt. 489 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 9: I don't particularly love to do that, but if I 490 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 9: didn't do it, there may have been you know, four 491 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 9: answers in the interview. 492 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 4: You know, let's play the whole thing. Actually, Michael will 493 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: do sixty and sixty one. This is Mika Brazinsky on 494 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: Morning Joe. So if you are you know you lean right, 495 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: you probably do. If you listen to this show, you 496 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: felt like Kamala Harris was, you know, not want to 497 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: answer the questions and doing every thing, but just to 498 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: know how the other side took it. This is Mika 499 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: Brazinsky and Morning Joe on MSNBC this morning. 500 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: It was supposed to get viewers an opportunity to actually 501 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: hear her plans as president. Instead, as you saw, it 502 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: almost immediately devolved into an embarrassing bad faith effort by 503 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: a once respected host to play to an audience of one. 504 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: The host's constant rude interruptions were designed to distract from 505 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: the issues and facts that Trump and his accolytes try 506 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: and twist and distort every day, and on Fox News 507 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: they try and avoid and they couldn't. 508 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: I actually saw somebody on Hiss it might have been 509 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: joy Read going with the whole. Of course, he couldn't 510 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: handle a strong black woman being in the blah blah 511 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: blah blah blah always that. 512 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 5: You know, I almost prefer that than the whole painting 513 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 5: her like a victim, like he was just running all 514 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 5: over her and wouldn't let her speak. 515 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 6: It sounded like a bashing. Like it. She was the 516 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 6: one filibustering through that whole thing. 517 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: Here's a little more from Mika. 518 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: When Kamala Harris realized the host was not going to 519 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: let her speak, the only way the Vice president could 520 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: give Fox viewers an opportunity to hear what she had 521 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: to say was to talk back over him. Was he 522 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: making sure that happened? I personally think absolutely. Did she 523 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: do well in this environment? Of course she was great. 524 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: She's a former prosecutor, attorney general, senator, current vice president. 525 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: She's fine with a situation like that and. 526 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: Even flourishes so because it is such in the eye 527 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: the beholder, and almost everybody has made their decisions already. 528 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: I'm not sure this interview changed well. It certainly didn't 529 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: change any minds. The question would be did it influence 530 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 4: any of the undecideds in the swing states? 531 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: I guess. This next clip. 532 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: Includes one phrase that is already in Trump ads. I 533 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: don't know if you'll pick it up or not, but 534 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 4: we'll explain. 535 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 9: This is a time when voters, especially here in Pennsylvania, 536 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 9: are inundated with commercials and ads. They just wanted to 537 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 9: stop because it's every commercial, but many of them add noise, 538 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 9: but a few of them seem to break through. This 539 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 9: particular one from the Trump campaign has gotten a lot 540 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 9: of attention. 541 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 10: Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners. 542 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the 543 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: prison system would have access. 544 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 9: So are you still in support of using taxpayer dollars 545 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 9: to help prison inmates or detain the illegal aliens to 546 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 9: transition to another gender? 547 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 3: I will follow the law, and it's a law that 548 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: Donald Trump actually followed. You're probably familiar with. 549 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 8: Now. 550 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: It's a public report that under Donald Trump's administration, these 551 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 3: surgeries were available to on a medical necessity basis to 552 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: people in the federal prison system. And I think, frankly, 553 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: that ad from the Trump campaign is a little bit 554 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: of like throwing stones when you're living in a glasshouse. 555 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 9: The Trump paids say that he never advocated for that 556 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 9: prison policy and no gender transition. 557 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: That take us for what happened in your administration. 558 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: So that was my favorite line, by the way, her going, well, 559 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: you have to take responsibility for what. 560 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 6: Happened in your administration. 561 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the line that is already in Trump adds 562 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 4: because she has been trying to go with I'm not 563 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: responsible for things that happened over the last three and 564 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: a half years, and she just stated there that you 565 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 4: are responsible for to happen over three and a half years, 566 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 4: and the point being, for whatever reason, the way the 567 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: laws are written, any healthcare that a prisoner needs, we 568 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: taxpayers pay for, and at least so far currently still 569 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: what they call gender firming care used to be called 570 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 4: a sex change is included in that. 571 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: But Trump doesn't advocate for it. 572 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 4: That's the laws on the book, and he didn't get 573 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: it overturned in his administration. 574 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: But he's not out there campaigning on that's what he 575 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: wants like she was. 576 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: So I think those are completely different things, but that's 577 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: the phrase that stuck out to a lot of people. Well, yet, 578 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 4: you're responsible for what happens under your administration. Okay, Well, 579 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: then how about the however many million illegals that came across, 580 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: how about the inflation, how about the deads at Abbygate 581 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: leaving Afghanistan, how about all kinds of other things. And 582 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: that's why it's going to be in a Trump ad. 583 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: What is going to make up the mind of the thousands, 584 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: not millions, but thousands of voters in the seven swing 585 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 4: states who haven't made up their mind yet. Nobody really knows. 586 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: They probably don't even know themselves. I don't know how 587 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 4: many of those people who can't make a decision are 588 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: going to walk into the voting booth on election day 589 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 4: and make up their mind. That seems so crazy to me. 590 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: We're talking about this earlier. Katie struck upon something that 591 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: I had never considered before, people that have trouble making decisions. 592 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: She dated a guy who couldn't make decisions. 593 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. 594 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: It was a form of your panic when a decision 595 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: from taking one hundred and forty or one hundred and 596 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 5: forty an hour and forty minutes to. 597 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 6: Pick your pick out a pair of. 598 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 5: Flip flops to actually having a panic attack while holding 599 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: the menu in a restaurant. It was just any definitive 600 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 5: decision was a problem. 601 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 602 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: And and he wasn't dumb, no, super smart. 603 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: I mean one of those like Snapple facts guys where 604 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 5: you'd be like, oh, I wonder about this, and you 605 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 5: just like new you know, weird Snapple facts. 606 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's one thing I've learned the the undecided 607 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: voters are not dumb, they're not low information. 608 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: They're just not good at making decisions. And I've known 609 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: a few people like that. 610 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: Just for whatever reason, every decision rose to the level 611 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: of this is the biggest decision of your life, or 612 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: you'll regret it forever if you eat the wrong thing, 613 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: or get the wrong shoes or you know, see the 614 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: wrong movie when you're trying to choose a movie on 615 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: a Friday night or something. Yeah, so that that's what 616 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: the undecide voter he is and what moves them who 617 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: flip and knows. 618 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 2: But it ain't going to be that interview yesterday. 619 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: I'll tell you that we'll finish strong next. Two celebrity 620 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: deaths in one day, kind of like when Farah Fawcett 621 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: died the same day as Michael Jackson, so nobody noticed. 622 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: Jesus, you got. 623 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: Sinwar, the leader of Hamas, and Gloria Gaynor, who sang 624 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: I will survive both of the same day. 625 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: Imagine it. So this is Charles Pain of Fox. Do 626 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: you know who he is? 627 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: He's their financial guy, super smart financial guy. I always 628 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 4: listen to what he has to say. He happens to 629 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: be black, which matters to this because he's commenting on 630 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: Barack Obama's attempt to reach out to young black men. 631 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 10: Black men have to get over the fact that they 632 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 10: got a woman on the ticket and are you afraid 633 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 10: to vote for her? 634 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: Is basically what he did, and challenge them. Damn shame. 635 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: It's so insulting. 636 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 10: I really I could you imagine a white man talking 637 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 10: down to black people like that, particularly black men. 638 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: That's our issue women. 639 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 10: It's not the fact that I don't have a job 640 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 10: where my job is not existing, or you know, I'm 641 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 10: in a world where, by the way, progressives are racing me. 642 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 10: The Democratic Party, particularly progressives in Hollywood, Madison Avenue, Washington, 643 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 10: d C. Wall Street, they have erased the black men. 644 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 10: There's no opportunities for black men anywhere in their world. 645 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 10: And I think a lot of his sentence around what 646 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 10: they perceived this will be too much toxic masculinity. They 647 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 10: hate black masculinity. They hate it, and they've gone to 648 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 10: war with it. And black men have noticed it, and 649 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 10: guess what they're saying, We're not going to take it anymore. 650 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: That's interesting, that whole war on masculinity thing that's been 651 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: going on now for quite a few years as I 652 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 4: raised two boys in this environment is interesting. 653 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: Let's let Charles Ping go on. 654 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: For those who are not inclined to vote for Kamla Harris, 655 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: will they sit it out and not vote or will 656 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: they vote for President Trump? 657 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 10: I think the majority will vote for President Trump. This 658 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 10: is a guy, by the way, for all of the 659 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 10: media attacks against Trump, he has reached out to black 660 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 10: voters from day one. He goes to the Bronx, he 661 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 10: goes to these different places. He's reached out to black 662 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 10: voters in a way that no Republican candidate ever has. 663 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: People appreciate that. 664 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was listening to a podcast yesterday and 665 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 4: I thought they made a really good point about men 666 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 4: being drawn to Trump because he is like a. 667 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: Guy as opposed to the. 668 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: Tim Walls type of guy, which is like all your 669 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: sitcom dads where I'm I'm a knucklehead, I'm kind of 670 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 4: a bumbling dumb guy and my wife runs a family 671 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: because I just barely know what's going on. 672 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of a big, doey dumb guy. 673 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: Which has been a straight armed seal clap that he does, 674 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: but that whole portrayed dads or men as well as 675 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: knuckleheads for all these years in sitcoms and commercials and 676 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: everything like that. Tim Walls is trying to be that 677 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: kind of guy, and Trump is definitely not that guy. 678 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: So there you go. 679 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 8: Jack and Joe just had a very robust and productive 680 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 8: conversation this morning, working together to discuss very important issues 681 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 8: together in this moment in time, and now together in 682 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 8: this moment, they will have final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty. 683 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 8: This is the most final thoughts of our lifetime, and 684 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 8: it is time to share the final thoughts they have 685 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 8: been thinking. And that time is every day. 686 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: Okay, here's your host for final thoughts. Me as Joe 687 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: is playing golf with a bunch of dudes and eating 688 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: and drinking. Let's get a final thought from Michaelangelo. 689 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was thinking abou Kamala being late for the interview. 690 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 5: I'm amazed at Brett Bair didn't say to her people, 691 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 5: hey she's got five minutes, or I'm telling my viewers 692 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 5: she was a no show. 693 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: You know, that wouldn't have been a bad move. 694 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: I mean it's not like she was five minutes late 695 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: or ten minutes late. 696 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: She was seventeen minutes late. 697 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: I mean, that's perfectly in the wheelhouse of I leave me. 698 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: If I got a meeting with somebody at five and 699 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: at a quarter after they're not there, I probably go 700 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: out to my car. Right anyway, let's get a final 701 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 4: thought from Katie Green. 702 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 5: So I know that intro to this final thoughts is 703 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 5: top topical. 704 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 6: And I'll you know, right a long time. But oh 705 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 6: my god, can we get rid of that? 706 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: It's hard to hear, isn't It's not even real long? 707 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 5: Ai, I know, But oh my god, I've already had 708 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 5: it with her. 709 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 4: It's ponderous. Ugh, here's my final thought. What is the 710 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: reaction going to be to the death of Sinwar? So 711 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 4: they're breaking into live news coverage on all the networks 712 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 4: now that it's. 713 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: Been confirmed the leader of Hamas is dead. 714 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 4: A couple experts we talked to today just think somebody 715 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: else will slide into a spot and won't make that 716 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: much difference. But we'll see if there's an attempt of 717 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: our retaliation. If I'm the leader of Iran, I gotta 718 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: be somewhat concerned that I'm next Armstrong and Geeddy Wrapping 719 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 4: up another grueling four hour workday, get the new T 720 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: shirt Hot dogs are Dogs? It's flying off the shelves, 721 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 4: but we can make more. Hot dogs are dogs at. 722 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: Armstrong inngeddy dot com. God bless America. I just got 723 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: one final question. 724 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 9: Or not say you said yes, yeah you did, you 725 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 9: absolutely did, and point of personal previallege. 726 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 2: I want winner. You're a loser, Congressman. What a load 727 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: of fatuous nonsense. This is the time we are opening 728 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: the aperture. 729 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 7: L GDP, l. 730 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: Gt LB so a little too much, Doty does. 731 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 5: These conversations are intrinsically multifaceted. 732 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah. 733 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: Let I know. 734 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: Thank you all very much, Armstrong and Getty