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Speaker 1: Every day a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Click up the Breakfast Club. Finish for y'all.

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Speaker 3: Done morning everybody, It's dj n V.

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Speaker 4: Just hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Law La

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Speaker 3: Roses here as well. We got some special guests in

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Speaker 3: the building, some family. We have Kelly Rowland, the Brother

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Speaker 3: Met the Man.

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Speaker 4: And Devon Franklin.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 5: Great relationship Relationship?

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Speaker 6: What made you want to turn Relationship Goes into a movie?

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Speaker 6: It's a book by Pastor Michael Todd. You want to

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Speaker 6: turn it into a film.

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 7: One of my greatest inspirations as a producer is my

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Speaker 7: brother Will Packer, and and I saw what he did

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Speaker 7: with Steve Harvey's book, Think like a Man. I said,

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Speaker 7: wait a minute, This Relationship Goes book has so many

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Speaker 7: great principles. Why don't we do that that with this?

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Speaker 7: And so that was the inspiration. And then also what

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Speaker 7: was so cool is when Pastor Todd released the book.

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Speaker 7: He put it out during the pandemic, and as an author,

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Speaker 7: when you can't tour that book usually doesn't work. He

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Speaker 7: did everything virtually. It went to number one on the

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Speaker 7: New York Times bestsellers list, and when you look at

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Speaker 7: how people were responding and how many.

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Speaker 1: Lives are being changed.

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Speaker 7: I just thought it was the great foundation for a

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Speaker 7: romantic comedy.

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Speaker 3: Break down what the movie's about for people that haven't

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Speaker 3: seen it or haven't seen the trail as.

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Speaker 8: Yet without giving it away.

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Speaker 7: Well, basically, you know, Kelly plays Leah, Meth plays Jared,

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Speaker 7: and they have a history, but in the present moment

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Speaker 7: of the story, they're competing for the same job, and

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Speaker 7: Meth that comes up with the idea they're in the

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Speaker 7: news world, and Meth that comes up with the idea

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Speaker 7: his character, Jared comes up with the idea, Hey, why

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Speaker 7: don't we do a story on the book relationship goals

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Speaker 7: for Valentin exactly exactly, and then that begins everyone in

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Speaker 7: the group beginning to think about their aim and think

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Speaker 7: about their love life and think about their relationships. So

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna give it away, but that's kind of

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Speaker 7: the catalyst for the movie.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, how do y'all go?

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Speaker 6: This is random? But the song complicated? Like the song

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Speaker 6: is dope? Well, what made y'all want to go do

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Speaker 6: a song?

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Speaker 2: So early? With that part in the contract? Okay, we

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Speaker 2: got care they got to do a No, it just happened.

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Speaker 5: Like, you know, I got the script, I read the script,

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Speaker 5: I was inspired, went into the studio was I've been

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Speaker 5: working on music, so I literally just started writing from

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Speaker 5: Leah's perspective myself and Jesse Rayes and then it came

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Speaker 5: out and then I sent it to DeVaughn and Anne

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Speaker 5: Raspberry over at Amazon. I was like, I wonder if

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Speaker 5: it'll work, and it just kind of worked. I said

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Speaker 5: it to Meth and he was like, yeah, let me

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Speaker 5: let me do this.

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Speaker 6: Have either y'all been in that situation in real life

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Speaker 6: where you got to do business with somebody that you

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Speaker 6: was in a relationship.

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Speaker 4: With that would.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it just kind of happened, that's all.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of happened.

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Speaker 8: Is there any aspects of the characters' lives that relate

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Speaker 8: to y'all real life?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: I mean I think the way Leah has when you

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Speaker 9: She's so in control, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And I think that for her, like when she has

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Speaker 5: control of everything, she's feeling like I got this, and

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Speaker 5: she does, and she does, but she also is dealing

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Speaker 5: with a whole bunch of internal stuff.

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Speaker 9: Grief is a big one for her, you know what

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Speaker 5: And it's kind of like drifting into everything else in

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Speaker 5: her life and you see how it plays a big

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Speaker 5: role in her decision making and everything. It's really interesting.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that I definitely understood.

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Speaker 3: Just What's the one thing I told you about it?

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Speaker 3: As soon as I started watching What's the first thing?

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Speaker 4: I tell you? What I tell.

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Speaker 9: You in the wardrobe?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, what I say you did say?

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Speaker 4: I didn't say that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he couldn't help, but he loved the wardrobe of

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Speaker 8: lev and he was like, well you you showed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said the wardrobe was dope.

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Speaker 3: The suit remedy of it was powerful, but it gave

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Speaker 3: me like a little Janet Jackson with it too, the

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Speaker 3: way to change.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was just dope. I've never seen. You don't

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Speaker 4: really see shows usually the wardrobe was cheap, but it

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Speaker 4: seemed like they put a lot into it. I'll show

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Speaker 4: it was dope.

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Speaker 9: Was that your idea?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 9: Did you style yourself for the movie?

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Speaker 2: Addressed me?

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Speaker 5: Because because Devon is a producer and he so graciously

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Speaker 5: allowed me to ep on this project as well, I

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Speaker 5: was like, Divna, I have some I literally showed him

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Speaker 5: a picture board. You know what I mean of how

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Speaker 5: I saw every everybody and all the characters, and so

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Speaker 5: you know, he obliged and allowed us to just have

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Speaker 5: a little bit of fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, she killed it.

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Speaker 7: I mean our wardrobe, our costume designer was named Gersha Phillips,

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Speaker 7: and so but you know, Kelly, you know, would just

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Speaker 7: be sending pictures and then also use all her relationships

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Speaker 7: in the fashion world.

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Speaker 1: That was It was dope wardrobe. Yeah, thankfully we didn't

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Speaker 1: have to pay for all of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we gave you marry stuff, but was great.

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Speaker 10: What do the power suits mean for Kelly as an actress?

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Speaker 10: Because I know Mia Copa it was all about the

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Speaker 10: power suits and the silhouttes as well too. And then

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Speaker 10: I see you here again And that was a personal decision.

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Speaker 10: So like, as an actor, like what are you saying

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Speaker 10: to the people that are watching you by choosing to

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Speaker 10: be specific about that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think that women are powerful, and I

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Speaker 5: think it should be unapologetic. And sometimes it does start

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Speaker 5: with like how you feel on the outside, your wardrope

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Speaker 5: they're like, okay, I.

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Speaker 9: Got to step up, you know.

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Speaker 5: So for me, it was just like stepping up, whether

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Speaker 5: So I feel like, you know, you got to put

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Speaker 9: But I feel like that, thank you. So I wanted

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Speaker 9: my character to make sure she felt.

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Speaker 10: Like that, because once we start peeling back the layers

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Speaker 10: of your character, I feel like she was she was

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Speaker 10: trying to learn how to accept love in so many

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Speaker 10: different ways about the movie. Correct, but you show up

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Speaker 10: as like you don't even talk to me, like you

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Speaker 9: Yes, it's a shield. It's a bit of a shield.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: The shield was just walls, just layers and layers of everything.

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Speaker 5: But that's even deep. So we don't want to give

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you get comfortable with acting? Because you know,

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Speaker 3: looking at you never comfortable, it looks it looks so comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Now you don't look like a rapper.

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Speaker 2: Now I see you as comfortable. You get lazy, you know,

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Speaker 2: so I like to explore outside my comfort zone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I don't think I'm ever going to be comfortable

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I don't think you should be right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't think you should be.

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Speaker 2: Then you get drawn the roles emotionally or creatively, both both.

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Speaker 2: This one was more emotionally. I see Jared as a

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Speaker 2: man going through a transition. He's thinking more along the

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Speaker 2: lines of legacy, you know, leaving something behind, having something

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Speaker 2: that really shows meaning to fulfill himself. And he I

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Speaker 2: think that when this job opportunity comes up, yes, I

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Speaker 2: mean that is a great way to start. But oh,

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Speaker 2: Leo works there as well. This is a sign and

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Speaker 2: it's something that he could either take advantage of and

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Speaker 2: the mom or you know, stay focused on what the

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Speaker 2: was actually Leah.

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Speaker 6: That's what the movie because it's like it talks about

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Speaker 6: expectations versus reality and like these modern relationships, Like where

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Speaker 6: do you think people get the most unrealistic expectations from?

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Speaker 9: Is it social media?

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Speaker 5: Y'all talk about it all the time, don't try it?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: And ps I think that social media and everybody actually

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Speaker 5: I think that we have an obligation, especially now for

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Speaker 5: it's just also great and we have to peel back layers.

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Speaker 5: And I think that this movie does a really great

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Speaker 5: job of peeling back layers and being honest in that way.

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Speaker 5: I actually love the fact that Pastor Michael Todd named

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Speaker 5: the book relationship, because that's the draw and that's where

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Speaker 5: people are like, what the heck is a relationship?

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Speaker 9: You know? What does that look like?

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Speaker 5: It's actually something for you to define what it is

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Speaker 5: because I'm not somebody else. I'm not a decision making

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Speaker 5: somebody else, you know what I mean. I'm making decisions

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Speaker 5: I'm making decisions and figuring out our relationship. I can't

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Speaker 5: bite that. That come with a whole other set of trauma,

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Speaker 5: whole another set of issues, who another set of everything else.

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Speaker 5: So I can't make that my relationship go. I don't

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Speaker 2: I feel like everyone wants to live in their purpose

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Speaker 2: sometimes they just don't know what it is, and when

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Speaker 2: they watch movies like this or even social media, they

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Speaker 2: live vicariously through the people they connect with, and it's

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Speaker 2: always going to be someone who wants to keep up

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Speaker 2: with the Joneses, but there are very few Joneses. They

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Speaker 2: want to keep up with anybody. So when you find

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Speaker 2: yourself in these spaces where you want to live that

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Speaker 2: fantasy and have that happy ending and shit, and it

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Speaker 2: turns out not to be that happy ending, you have

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Speaker 2: to bear with that and then move on, and that's it.

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Speaker 4: Can you have relationship in the workplace now?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Because I look at these movies and I always say,

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Speaker 3: if my son works somewhere, I would that's where he's

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Speaker 3: going to meet somebody, right Because you're at your job

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Speaker 3: eight to nine hours a day, so that's where you're

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Speaker 3: most likely to meet somebody.

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Speaker 4: But in the society they tell you that you can't

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Speaker 4: work with somebody that you have a relationship with.

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 4: Can that happen?

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can meet I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 8: When you're working somewhere and you mess with somebody, it's

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Speaker 8: cute at first, but then when things turn, I gotta

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Speaker 8: come to work and I gotta se this nigga a

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Speaker 7: But what you don't realize is you think like, oh,

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Speaker 5: Because you you you love yourself, but you you've decided

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Speaker 7: Amazon know, Yo, we got Kelly. They're like, no, let's

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Speaker 7: do it. So we started the process of making the

446
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Speaker 7: movie and we started, you know, seeing a lot of

447
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Speaker 7: guys to play Jair. We looked at probably one hundred

448
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Speaker 7: different dudes.

449
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Speaker 2: Yea, and it did Anne but Raspberry our executive and

450
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Speaker 2: Amazon said, hey, what about met the Man?

451
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Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, we met like ten years ago,

452
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Speaker 1: been talking about trying to do something. So we sent

453
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Speaker 1: him the script. He loved it.

454
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Speaker 7: He came in on a chemistry read with Kelly and

455
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Speaker 7: within two minutes we were like, all right, back there

456
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Speaker 7: it is. And so it just it just organically, you know,

457
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 7: came out this way. And to me, it's like the

458
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Speaker 7: thing about them and I'll say this with them here

459
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Speaker 7: is like you may see, like you know, talent that

460
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Speaker 7: came from the music industry. I want to be very clear,

461
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 7: these are two of Hollywood's greatest actors. When you talk

462
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Speaker 7: about their preparation, I mean, look like he Mett cares

463
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 7: so much about his lines. There was one scene we

464
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Speaker 7: were in the car and he just kept loubbing one

465
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Speaker 7: line and he would not stop until.

466
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Speaker 1: He got it perfect. These are two consummate professionals.

467
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Speaker 7: The way they prepared, the way they got into character,

468
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Speaker 7: the way they they were ambassadors on set, You're not

469
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Speaker 7: just seeing two music icons coming together. You're really seeing

470
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Speaker 7: two of Hollywood's I think leading men and leading women

471
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Speaker 7: coming together.

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Speaker 6: Did that come from from like wanting to get the

473
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Speaker 6: bar right?

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Speaker 2: You want to hit a rhythm, you know what I mean? Yeah,

475
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Speaker 2: And I just wasn't feeling it, so I wanted to

476
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Speaker 2: get it absolutely right. And I mean, if you guys

477
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Speaker 2: have seen the movie, I Leading Ladies fantastic. Yes she is,

478
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Speaker 2: and she carries this film big time. Some of my

479
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Speaker 2: favorite scenes are I told her this myself. Some of

480
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Speaker 2: my favorite scenes are with you and the girls. Just

481
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Speaker 2: that whole camaraderie feels genuine when doesn't feel thrown together,

482
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Speaker 2: and it was real. So kudos, you know you know, just.

483
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Speaker 4: Try out for a partner. Bring that up because.

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Speaker 1: She was great. It was great. Of course I've seen it. Yes,

485
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Speaker 1: I would not.

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Speaker 9: I would not if.

487
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Speaker 2: The experience just when you don't get the part, sometimes

488
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Speaker 2: it's just you don't fit the suit.

489
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Speaker 9: Did divine in this movie? Right?

490
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Speaker 10: You use met the man's character to really have a

491
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Speaker 10: conversation about like how we look at men or don't

492
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Speaker 10: allow them to grow and vulnerability when it comes to love. Right,

493
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Speaker 10: what was probably the most important conversation You wanted people

494
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Speaker 10: to want women to walk away with from seeing his character.

495
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Speaker 1: Because you know this.

496
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Speaker 7: Is probably this is probably you know, a hard one,

497
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Speaker 7: but you asked the question that men can't change.

498
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Speaker 1: Men can change.

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Speaker 7: But like, like when you look at the movie, and

500
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Speaker 7: everybody watched the movie. It comes out on Amazon Prime

501
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Speaker 7: February fourth, and so when you see this film, you'll

502
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Speaker 7: see that Jared and.

503
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Speaker 1: Leah have a past.

504
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Speaker 7: He's made some mistakes, but he is serious amount of

505
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Speaker 7: toning for those mistakes and he gets the book relationship

506
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Speaker 7: goals and it has principles in it that really help

507
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Speaker 7: him recognize how much of a you know, of less

508
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Speaker 7: than a man and a dog he was, and that

509
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Speaker 7: he's reformed. And so I think when you watch this movie,

510
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Speaker 7: Leah has a choice. Do I believe him? Can I

511
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Speaker 7: trust it? And part of that is seeing his behavior

512
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Speaker 7: and evaluating that, and the other part of it is

513
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Speaker 7: having faith and seeing. So that is one of when

514
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Speaker 7: we talk about the male character, one of the greatest things.

515
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Speaker 7: The take away is like, a man can change. Now

516
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 7: now you know, I know in our culture everybody wants

517
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Speaker 7: to say, well, no, no man. Once a man's no,

518
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 7: a man can change, and a man can be remorseful.

519
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Speaker 7: In this movie, I wanted to show that, you know,

520
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Speaker 7: as men, as as black men, we can go through things,

521
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Speaker 7: we can make mistakes, we can.

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Speaker 1: Right are wrongs.

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Speaker 7: And he's he's the one that brings the book into

524
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Speaker 7: the movie, so he's a reader, he's he's.

525
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Speaker 1: Trying to better himself.

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Speaker 7: So I really wanted to have a character that can

527
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Speaker 7: embody all of that and hopefully people, you know, walk

528
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Speaker 7: away from the film saying, all right, you know what,

529
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Speaker 7: let me let me not just close myself off to

530
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Speaker 7: love and let me not just say this person is

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Speaker 7: how they're always going to be.

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Speaker 1: Let me give us some time to see.

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Speaker 2: Vulnerability is still so hard for men.

534
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Speaker 9: To fully embrace so deeply.

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Speaker 2: D I like that because you got to give something away.

536
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Speaker 2: It feels like you have to give something away, You

537
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Speaker 2: have to sacrifice a part of yourself and shit to

538
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Speaker 2: be vulnerable, and especially when you're out. Let's just put

539
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Speaker 2: it this way. By when we leave out of our

540
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Speaker 2: homes and we go into our workforce, we're dealing. We're

541
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Speaker 2: battling all day long, battling for position, whatever it is,

542
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Speaker 2: whatever it is, your kick is, and then we want

543
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Speaker 2: to get home the same way a police officer does

544
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Speaker 2: after his shift. When he goes to work, there's the

545
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Speaker 2: stress of the day. I may be killed today, you know,

546
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Speaker 2: same thing with a man this day. I may be

547
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Speaker 2: fired this day, or my company may go under this day.

548
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Speaker 2: But when he comes home, he wants to have peace,

549
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Speaker 2: comfort and everything that comes with that. This is where

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Speaker 2: he can be vulnerable because his woman is, who he's

551
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Speaker 2: involved with, or whatever your significant other is. They're there

552
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Speaker 2: to comfort that person and tell him you did all

553
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Speaker 2: of that just so you can be here and do

554
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Speaker 2: this now. Relax. I got you that kind of thing.

555
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Speaker 2: So this is where you want to be vulnerable at

556
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Speaker 2: because you have no other place to be vulnerable yeah,

557
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Speaker 2: I mean, and still it's just like what your sacrificing

558
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Speaker 2: in that moment is maybe this woman is gonna look

559
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Speaker 2: at me like, you know, I'm a little soft or whatever.

560
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Speaker 2: But no, any woman that could look at that vulnerability

561
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Speaker 2: and thinks softness is not for you. If anything, she's

562
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Speaker 2: looking at you. It's I hate to equate it to this,

563
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: but I've seen a report us seeing this investigation about

564
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Speaker 2: dogs and a dog using the bathroom around its owner.

565
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Speaker 2: Dogs don't use the bathroom like. They're very skeptical about

566
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Speaker 2: where they go because they're vulnerable in that moment. So

567
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Speaker 2: they have to honestly trust you in order to take

568
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Speaker 2: a poop in front of you. So when you get

569
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Speaker 2: to a point in your relationship where you could poop

570
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Speaker 2: with the door open and your significant others right there

571
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Speaker 2: brushing their teeth, vulnerability right there.

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Speaker 1: Boom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrap that up in a nice little.

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Speaker 8: Going back to what you what you said the moment

575
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Speaker 8: we were talking about mink and change and they can

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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, Like Jared's character, he was

577
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Speaker 8: a dog, you know what I mean? He did some

578
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Speaker 8: you know, I'm just at he had hurt her, You

579
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Speaker 8: know what I mean. But on the other side of it,

580
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Speaker 8: a woman can she's hurt from that, she can carry

581
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Speaker 8: that and become bitter and not even realize this is bitter,

582
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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying.

583
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Speaker 9: So how do you how do you even notice.

584
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 8: That you're bitter and that you actually could be so

585
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 8: bitter from what happened to you back then that you're

586
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 8: blocking yourself from love, from what you want, Like you

587
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 8: got the list and everything, you know what you want,

588
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 8: but you're blocking blessing because you are bitter from what

589
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 8: happened to you way back.

590
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think in the movie, you know,

591
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Speaker 7: the bitterness on some level shows up in the form

592
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Speaker 7: of Leah's list. The list seems like a great thing, right,

593
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 7: she has all these attributes of what she wants in

594
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Speaker 7: her partner. But what it does is it mass insecurity

595
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Speaker 7: and the idea if I can just get this list,

596
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Speaker 7: then I won't get hurt.

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Speaker 1: And and this is.

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Speaker 7: The probably the hardest thing when it comes to love,

599
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Speaker 7: to your point about vulnerability. When you love and you

600
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 7: open up your heart, you open up your heart to help,

601
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 7: but you open up your heart to hurt as well.

602
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: And the.

603
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Speaker 1: Admission price for love is faith.

604
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Speaker 7: You have to be open, because if you're not open,

605
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 7: you're never going to receive it and you can't give it.

606
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Speaker 7: So to your point, like, how do you know if

607
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 7: you're bitter? How do you what's your emotional disposition when

608
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 7: you wake up in the morning. Are you in peace?

609
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 7: Are you enjoyed? Are you optimistic?

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Speaker 2: You know?

611
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Speaker 1: And for me chose those are choices.

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00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 7: Those are choices, and and for me, I'm like, you know, when,

613
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Speaker 7: especially when you watch the movie, I'm like, man, I

614
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 7: don't we all go.

615
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Through heartbreak, we all go through difficult things.

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Speaker 7: But you can get to love when you practice that love,

617
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 7: when you make the choice to be that love, that joy,

618
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 7: that happiness. And so over the course of the movie,

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Speaker 7: you see Leah, you know, grappling with that, and over

620
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Speaker 7: the course of the film she starts to realize, like,

621
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Speaker 7: wait a minute, I got to open up my heart.

622
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Speaker 7: I'm too closed off to it, and I think that

623
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 7: that's probably one of the hardest things to do. But

624
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 7: on the other side of it, when you get love,

625
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 7: you know, excess, it's none of this matters. And in

626
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 7: my opinion, this is all fine. But when you have love,

627
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 7: when you have the right person, and you can share

628
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 7: your heart and your home and your health with That's

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Speaker 7: what life is about. And so you know, I would

630
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Speaker 7: advise anybody watch this film and really allow yourself to

631
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Speaker 7: identify what are the areas in your heart that you're hurting.

632
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 7: And and here's the other last thing I'll saying, It's

633
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Speaker 7: okay to hurt. Like in the movie, Leah hurts, and

634
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Speaker 7: so often we.

635
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Speaker 1: Don't want to hurt. We just want to fast forward

636
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: through the hurt.

637
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 7: No sit in it, feel it, because when you feel,

638
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 7: that's when you can heal.

639
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: And that's what you see in this movie.

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Speaker 7: And then on the other side of that feeling and

641
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 7: that healing is love waiting, and that, to me is

642
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 7: one of the greatest things about this film is that

643
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 7: it is It is entirely optimistic. It's not a pessimistic film.

644
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 7: It's a film that will anybody, no matter what status

645
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 7: of relationship you're in, you can watch it and take

646
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 7: something from it that I believe e will help you

647
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 7: in your love life.

648
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Speaker 10: Kelly, I had a question, so piggybacking up both of

649
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 10: those conversations, right you. I watched the you and met

650
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 10: them and interview each other for ET and you were

651
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 10: talking about I think he actually like, what was your

652
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 10: favorite thing that, like your husband does for you or

653
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 10: something like that, and you said, just the way he

654
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 10: loves on me and my son. But you also said

655
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 10: you're still learning how to receive that love.

656
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, therapy. It all goes back to therapy.

657
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 5: I'm still I'm still learning how to receive that. And

658
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: by the way, I think that people like, well, you

659
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 5: once you get married, you figure it out, Like hell

660
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: you do, You're still trying to figure it out in marriage,

661
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's like why I think that,

662
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: you know, fixing your aim, you know, before you get married,

663
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Speaker 5: is also a really great goal because then you get

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Speaker 5: to work some things out, you know what I mean.

665
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 9: Like I knew that.

666
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 5: Tim was my husband, I didn't know that I was

667
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 5: going to run into so many different things that were

668
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: triggers for me, you know what I mean, like like

669
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 5: how to love him, Oh my god, some but like

670
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 5: how to love him the way he deserves Like I

671
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 5: want to love him the way he deserves to be

672
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: loved because he loves me that way, and he's figuring out,

673
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: thank you, he's figuring out things in his way, and

674
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 5: how to love me as well, and we're constantly evolving,

675
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 5: so we're not going to get it right every time.

676
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: We've been together since I was twenty six. I'm forty

677
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: five now, so it's like, yeah, thank you, thank you,

678
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: but it's like us figuring out how to do that

679
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 5: the right way for each other.

680
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 9: And that's why I'm in therapy.

681
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 6: You don't speak enough about how women misty blessings looking

682
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 6: for height they can get a short king because.

683
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 5: You're saying my husband is almost like we're almost the same. Him.

684
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 5: That wasn't me that said that right now is well,

685
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: here's the thing I understop it. You can find a

686
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: great king because he's a great king. But it was

687
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: for me. I did have that list. I had a

688
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 5: crazy list. I actually found that list before. Yes I did.

689
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 5: I did I have a list list. Oh you know,

690
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 5: twenty I knew exactly I thought I knew what I wanted.

691
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: But Tim gave me what I needed. And I think

692
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 5: that that was the difference. I was saying that the

693
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: other day, like I didn't know. I was so busy

694
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 5: writing down what I wanted. I didn't know what I needed.

695
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 9: And I think that experience makes you realize what you need.

696
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: I think that you know, as you're dating, you know,

697
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 5: and figuring everything out, you can write everything down, Like

698
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: I'll never forget this.

699
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 9: One time I was crying after a breakup.

700
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 5: And just in my head in my hands and being

701
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 5: walks in and she goes, why are you crying? And

702
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: I said because She's like, but tell me why are

703
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 5: you crying?

704
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 9: And I said, I don't know.

705
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: She was like, what you need to be doing is

706
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 5: take an inventory of what you did like about this

707
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: situation so you'll be ready for the next one.

708
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 9: And I was like, Mars, like it was. It was

709
00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 9: so good.

710
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 5: And literally I stopped crying in that moment because I

711
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 5: realized that what I was crying, I didn't even know

712
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: why I was. It was the hype that I just

713
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: lost a boyfriend, you know what I mean. And we

714
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 5: get lost in that kind of sauce sometimes, like you

715
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: have to actually start to take inventory and strategize on

716
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: what it is that you need.

717
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 6: So what's the difference between compromise and self betrayal in relationships?

718
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 6: Then when you have a list, how do you know

719
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 6: when you're compromising? You just betraying yourself.

720
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: I mean I didn't feel like I was compromising anything

721
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 5: I think that's a self thing, like I wanted to

722
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: I just wanted to be honest with myself, you know

723
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 5: what I mean. And I was just going from that.

724
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking about compromising anything as much as it was.

725
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 5: I just I like the way he speaks to me.

726
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 5: I love the way he makes me feel when I'm

727
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 5: around him. I love the fact that he took up

728
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: from me and nobody's taking up for me. Like literally,

729
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: I say, and I'll say it to this day. Tim

730
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 5: is the greatest man I've ever known, Like cause you

731
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 5: got to remember, I got my daddy issues, you know

732
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 5: what I mean, And until I met my dad a

733
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 5: couple of years back, like, I didn't know what how

734
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: messy that was and what kind of guy I was

735
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 5: supposed to choose. I wasn't supposed to choose a Tim,

736
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He was supposed to walk

737
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 5: past me. But I thought more of myself to choose

738
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 5: a good man.

739
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 10: I saw you talk about your relationship with your dad

740
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 10: and kind of you know how you being a mom

741
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 10: has like you know how that balance has been, But

742
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 10: what has your relationship with Tim been like since you

743
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 10: like having that stronger relationship with your dad.

744
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 9: Oh, it's been great, it's been great.

745
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 5: He By the way, Tim was very protective, just transparently

746
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 5: speaking of me meeting my dad, you know what I mean.

747
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 9: And I had to talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

748
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: He was protective of me meeting my dad because he's

749
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 5: just like, I don't know what this is going to

750
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 5: open up for her, you know what I mean.

751
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 9: It was him thinking about it like that. But they

752
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 9: get along few beautifully, you know.

753
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: And you wanted that, you wanted that I did.

754
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: I did, and I needed to see like where my

755
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 5: roots are from.

756
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 6: Do you know?

757
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 5: When I met my dad, I realized where I got

758
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 5: singing from, which was his mother. His mother was a

759
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: background singer for Lena Horn.

760
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 9: And Count Basie. I didn't know any of that.

761
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: So I got these beautiful gems and didn't know what

762
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 5: the other side of me was. And then I look

763
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 5: at Noah's face. No it looked just like his mama,

764
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: my dad's mom. And it's just amazing to me because

765
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: what if I would have closed that off. That's why

766
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 5: forgiveness is a real thing. And I remember speaking to

767
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 5: my big brother about going to talk to my dad

768
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 5: and he was.

769
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 9: Like, look, it's love you either jump or you don't period.

770
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: See that growth? Yo.

771
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, with my sister talking about growth math, you know,

772
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 6: hip hop has changed. He talks about relationships over the years,

773
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 6: like where do you think we're growing?

774
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: Where do you think we still stuck as far as

775
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: hip hop? Oh, it's a lot of work to still

776
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: be done, man. I mean it starts with a lot

777
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: of these gatekeepers trying to dictate what this new generation

778
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: should be doing, you know, because honestly, when we was

779
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: doing it, we had fun. We was having a lot

780
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: of fun. And what I can give this new generation

781
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: credit for is that they did a lot more business

782
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: than show and the show business part of it. You know,

783
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: we're creating generational wealth and they're the babies of that.

784
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: And I mean we could be in a way better place,

785
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: especially with the message of course, And when I was

786
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: doing it back in the day, I mean we Bu

787
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: Tang had a message. Regardless of whether you heard gunshots

788
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: or swords, there was still a message there. And I

789
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: think a lot of times the vibe gets lost for

790
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: the substance, the substance. There's no substance in the vibe.

791
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: The vibe has no substance. And shit, and again I

792
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: can't knock these kids for liking what they like, but

793
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: I just wish it was a bit more diversity, for

794
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: lack of a better word.

795
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: But did the business hurt it?

796
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: You talk about the fund, you get things for funded

797
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: and business later, which was bad for pockets, But it

798
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: was natural.

799
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it.

800
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 6: There was a level of emotional maturity that Mike had

801
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 6: had existed back then that maybe may not exist now

802
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 6: because like, even all I need that was that was

803
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 6: our relationship goal, right.

804
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: Everything in there, every line is what you want. Well,

805
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: I think that my generation read a lot more books.

806
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: You know, we went outside, we touched dirt, you know,

807
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: so experiences king and to be honest, you know, and

808
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: again this this generation, I'm not knocking anything they do

809
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: because they doing their numbers and it looks like they're

810
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: having fun. I can live vicariously through some of these youngers,

811
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: you know. But again, substance, and you only think about

812
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: these things when you get my age. You want something

813
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: that matters, something that you could feel hold, embracing, you know,

814
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: really cherished.

815
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I got to ask us they got to

816
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: leave it shortly. Two guys, when you were performing at

817
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: the ball plays or pretential, which was.

818
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: Than I did.

819
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 9: That's what I said. No, I saw your face.

820
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: It's a different Just don't play with me.

821
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 5: No, but I saw her face and I lit up

822
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: because it was so nice to see, you know, because

823
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 5: Jess is always really kind and really cool and I

824
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: really appreciate it. So when I see her, it's warmth always.

825
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 4: Why Oh my.

826
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 2: God, I'm so excited to see you.

827
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 8: Listen, my husband went crazy when you came out there.

828
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 8: I said, yeah, exactly, but he and said it like,

829
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 8: you know, that's Kelly.

830
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 5: I know.

831
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 4: About talking about you all night and I love it.

832
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 8: I started talking about it with It's hard. She looked good,

833
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 8: congratulations on that, thank you killed it, and just loved it.

834
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 8: You look so good.

835
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: All that love it.

836
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 6: What do y'all hold people to from this film that

837
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: they might not hear from their friends.

838
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 5: Oh, I think they go hear from their friends. I

839
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 5: think what's interesting is when the movie goes off, is

840
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 5: so quiet, you know what I mean, like in this way,

841
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 5: and then it's like a chatter, you know what I mean,

842
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: and it's like, well, you know, it starts conversation. I

843
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 5: hope it provokes conversation yet and right so that it

844
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 5: like really encourages people to see the movie, see the message,

845
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 5: see these characters, and not just know it's like not

846
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: just about the Jared and Leah relationship. It's the girlfriends too,

847
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 5: the girlfriends, the story, Yeah, and our like how beautiful

848
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: it was that as relationship goes for even the friends

849
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 5: as well. That I don't want to give away too much,

850
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 5: but it's like the relationship with the girlfriends and everybody

851
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: that's involved. You see how relationship goes as a whole,

852
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 5: not just romantically. Are just really important And yeah, that's

853
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 5: that's what it is.

854
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I just want people to root for these

855
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: people in this film, root for their relationships as well.

856
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me.

857
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's one of the few movies

858
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 7: that can actually change your life because when you look

859
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 7: at the YouTube series and the relationship goes YouTube series

860
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 7: and the relationship goes book change millions of people's lives

861
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 7: for the better. And the same principles in the book

862
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 7: in the YouTube series are in the movie. So I

863
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 7: think I want people to have a great experience. It's funny,

864
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 7: it's a great entertaining film with two of the greatest

865
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 7: actors on the planet, and it can actually make you

866
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 7: fix your aim in life and in love. And I

867
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 7: think that it's a rare thing where you can watch

868
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: a movie that entertains you, but it also makes you

869
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 7: think like, oh, shoot, there's some things I can actually

870
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 7: change and I can apply what I saw in the

871
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 7: film to my personal life.

872
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 6: And then you're not getting enough credit, man, because you

873
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 6: know you wanted a few black men. That's not only

874
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 6: you know, getting things made, getting things green liit, you know,

875
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 6: casting a lot of black people, Like I don't think

876
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 6: you get enough credit for that. Franklin Entertainment, he's very active.

877
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 6: We see Davon a lot, especially in the past three years.

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00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of thank you, thank you.

879
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

880
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: But listen out today. Make sure you go get it.

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00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: Go check it out on Prime Video. Relationship Goals. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate you for joining us, Devon Franklin at the Man,

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Speaker 3: Kelly Rowland, what's us?

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Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all?

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Speaker 6: Hold every day a week ago, clake your glass up

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Speaker 6: the breakfast club.

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Speaker 2: You're finished for y'all done.