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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Aw the heck are you on a Wednesday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve tasking with you. One Bill's Live is the program.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, as we will be with you

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Speaker 2: until three this afternoon Eastern time, and we'll get into

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Speaker 2: our topic of discussion in short order. But a few

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Speaker 2: things kicking around the league, chiefly chiefly Steve. The NFL

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Speaker 2: schedule for the twenty twenty four regular season. We've knocked

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Speaker 2: it around yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The staff attention, staff, do we have an announcement?

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Speaker 2: Initially, initially the rumblings were May ninth, and that is

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Speaker 2: no longer the case. But we understand, according to some

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Speaker 2: national reporters who put it out last night, that a

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Speaker 2: memo has been sent to all teams and that the

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Speaker 2: schedule will be released on May fifteenth, a week today

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Speaker 2: from today. So that is the report.

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Speaker 1: I don't think one of those eight pm release kind

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Speaker 1: of things right exactly.

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Speaker 2: And in addition to that, there is a rumbling going

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Speaker 2: around as to why there is a delay of almost

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Speaker 2: a week, and one of the main reasons, according to

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Speaker 2: a couple of different media reports, is yeah, the Monday

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Speaker 2: that streaming services are willing to pony up for the

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Speaker 2: doubleheader on Christmas Day. That is the high bidding auction item.

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Speaker 2: And we understand that Netflix is in the mix. So

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Speaker 2: last year we saw NBC pay one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: to air a game on peacock a a single game.

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Speaker 1: One hundred million for one three hours.

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Speaker 2: There are two on Christmas Day, and the Christmas Day

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Speaker 2: ratings last year were astronomic.

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Speaker 1: They were. Yes, astronomical is a good word. I was

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Speaker 1: going to think of something better than that. That's right, astronomical.

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Speaker 2: So the number is going up, it never goes the

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Speaker 2: other way.

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Speaker 1: And one one entity is going to get both games.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that that's a lock, but I

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Speaker 2: think if one, if one streaming service or network decides, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going in for the whole Lenchilada on Christmas Day,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get We're gonna be over three hundred million,

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Speaker 2: and you might even be nearing half a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's an absolute lock that you're gonna do astronomical, massive,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe record setting ratings.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's in their house, depending.

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Speaker 1: On of course, and here's where the delay comes in,

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Speaker 1: depending on who's playing.

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Speaker 2: Well. Yes, yes, they're not going to put an unattractive

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Speaker 2: game there. Now, all that being said, those watching on

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Speaker 2: Peacock had to watch Tim Boyle play quarterback for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: But let's just just think about how delicious that is.

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Speaker 2: That is so good and it stills it well for Peacock.

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Speaker 2: Listen that it's almost fool proof. And here's and here's

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Speaker 2: why this is delayed.

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Speaker 1: And you can all, we can all imagine how this

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Speaker 1: brownie and I have heard about this stuff secondhand and

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Speaker 1: from and also from people around. So you got you

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Speaker 1: got Fox, CBS, ESPN and Netflix, ESPN, NBC, you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: paramount Apple TV. Everybody's bidden for this. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: out there. Would you like it? Would you like an

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Speaker 1: NFL two NFL games or an NFL game? And you

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Speaker 1: know guaranteed you're gonna get It's gonna be watched more

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Speaker 1: than any other program on your streaming service all year ever.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, not only will it be watched by

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Speaker 1: more of your subscribers than any other program on your

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Speaker 1: streaming service, it will also probably guarantee a couple of million,

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Speaker 1: your site. So you're thinking as if you're those guys,

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, hey, yeah, that sounds great. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: let's bid for that. Who's going to be playing? Well,

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Speaker 1: Well listen, how about this. I'll pay you four hundred

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Speaker 1: pick my game. Oh well we'll listen to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna pay five hundred million to lit wow,

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Speaker 1: you what game would you like? Sir? In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: all the people who have already paid fifteen billion for

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Speaker 1: a whole slate of games all years and whoa, whoa no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Well they get to yea, the networks, we're protecting games.

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Speaker 1: And then you got to go back and say, well,

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Speaker 1: They've yes, they've protected the Chiefs Niners game, if there

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Speaker 1: you can have these games. What about these games? And

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Speaker 1: then they say okay, that's awesome, great, what day we

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Speaker 1: Well, it is because there's only gonna be a few teams.

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Speaker 2: That play the Saturday or the previous thing.

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Speaker 1: So all the stuff going into this is like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: give us a minute to get all this straightened out,

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Speaker 1: and we'll tell you when.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll tell you just how much of our money

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Speaker 2: we're going to give to you.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: So therein lies the delay, according to reports, and it

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Speaker 2: will be interesting to see how big that number gets

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Speaker 2: if in fact it's one service for both games on

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Speaker 2: Christmas Day, it may not be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they may go Netflix, Amazon or whatever, you know.

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Speaker 1: Either way, either way, I mean, I'm gonna be like

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna have a house. Yeah, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: And that's the other part of the rub here too,

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Speaker 2: because you're not only if you're hosting for Christmas and

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Speaker 1: That TV's on bro.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, but if you don't have the service, you're

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Speaker 2: getting the service, right because you're not gonna be that guy.

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Speaker 2: But there's Christmas forcing people to watch it on their phone.

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Speaker 1: Right, But there's also this thing too, like like say,

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Speaker 1: our year to get all of them. Right, So we

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Speaker 2: Well right, but still right, you've probably got let's figure

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Speaker 2: let's just say conservatively two hundred and thirty million people

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, celebrate Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty million.

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Speaker 2: Fine, two hundred and fifteen million people, because they'll hebrate christly.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. Now let's cut that number. Let's divide it

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Speaker 2: So you can really get down the road pretty far,

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Speaker 2: is it? What's but I guess what I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 2: It's got to be like eighty million, right, Like, there's

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Speaker 2: probably about eighty million American homes hosting Christmas. Yes, eighty million?

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Speaker 2: Is that fair? It's like a third of that two and.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and then there'll be half again as much of

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Speaker 1: Everybody's at home. The whole country's at home, whether they

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Speaker 2: I remember sell of my Jewish friends used to go

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but nobody goes to the movies anymore.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's say the three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: Let's say they get another ten million because of these games.

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Speaker 1: All right, that puts them into it's twenty bucks a month.

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Speaker 2: I think, well, we decided like sixteen ninety five, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know about super Bowl rates, but pretty close,

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's just a math problem for them.

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Speaker 2: Which is a whole nother story. Because there are reports

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Speaker 2: We'll see what comes out of that, hm, which would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of cringey to me.

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Speaker 2: Not that I don't I love ESPN, Yeah, but I

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Speaker 2: that too. But on the front burner right now is

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Speaker 2: this NFL schedule, and all indications are that the bills

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Speaker 2: are just as popular as they ever been have been

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Speaker 2: among the networks in the streaming services for primetime slots,

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Speaker 1: We had this conversation on Monday with Maddie was in

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Speaker 1: and you weren't that And here's what I'm interested to

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Speaker 1: hear what you have to say. I put the over

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Speaker 1: under a five and a half for primetime games for

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Speaker 1: Buffalo five and a half. What do you take the

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Speaker 1: We were on nine times last year, and let me

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Speaker 1: a world. There's a donkey that hangs out that is

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Speaker 1: kind of belongs to the town, right, he just shows

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Speaker 1: up wherever he is.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of a wanderer.

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Speaker 1: He's a he just he lives in the town, but

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Speaker 1: nobody owns him. And he's a donkey.

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Speaker 2: That's Aaron Rodgers, sar ers because even his own family

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Speaker 2: doesn't talk.

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Speaker 1: To that's that's Aaron Rodgers in the NFL. He he

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Speaker 1: you know, he lives in the town, lives in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and all that, but nobody owns him. He played

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Speaker 1: for the Jests today, played for the Packers. But he

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Speaker 1: turns up in some hyahuasca thing, turns up on podcasts,

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Speaker 1: turns up everywhere. He just shows up. Where is he

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Speaker 1: He's over in your neighborhood today.

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Speaker 2: He's over there.

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Speaker 1: That's him. He's a wild donkey and on World Donkey Day,

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Speaker 1: I nice.

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Speaker 2: To appropriate to think of apropriate. Uh, there is one

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Speaker 2: last shred of NFL news here before we get to

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Speaker 2: our topic of discussion, Steve, and one of your favorite

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in mine is no longer employed. After acquiring Zach

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Speaker 2: Wilson and drafting bo Nicks last month, the Broncos have

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Speaker 2: now released quarterback Ben Denucci.

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Speaker 1: And the run the run is taking a hiatus or

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Speaker 1: may have come.

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Speaker 2: To an end, may have come to an end. You

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Speaker 2: just never know.

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Speaker 1: And is Ben Denucci and his agent was.

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Speaker 2: No, you're thinking of Tommy DeVito, Tommy DEVITOI and DeVito

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Speaker 2: and Sean stilleto Toavito, I cannot to robberate whether he's

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Speaker 2: Ben Denucci's agent, But there's Ben. It was Ben Denucci

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Speaker 2: and Jared Sidham pre draft. Then Zach Wilson gets acquired

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Speaker 2: and they draft Bonnicks and suddenly Ben Denucci's out of work.

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Speaker 1: So Ben Denucci's out of work. And not to be

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Speaker 1: confused with.

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Speaker 2: Tommy who is very much employed by the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Who's very much employed by the Giants and is represented

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Speaker 1: by Sean Stillado, Stilato Danucci and who's the go to Vito?

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Speaker 1: And Netflix has got it. There's there's gotta buy it, right,

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Speaker 1: I would like to buy an eye? Yeah, there are thirty.

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Speaker 1: You're right. I thought I thought Tommy DeVito was ben Denucci.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, well yes, it's much like the uh,

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Speaker 2: the Terrell Bernard Christian Benford. That's right, that you had.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I had that for a while. Now that

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Speaker 1: Benford's a you know, a great player, and now Bernard

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Speaker 1: is a great player. Now there, you know. Now it's

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Speaker 1: easier now that I see them all the time.

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Speaker 2: When they were both sitting they're both like when they

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Speaker 2: pop up once a week, they don't you know, you

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Speaker 2: don't you don't get them when.

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Speaker 1: We talk about them every day. It's a little easier.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't talk about Danucci.

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Speaker 2: So Danucci is out looking for Stillado that much, that's right.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he can get in the camp somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, and An, I.

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Speaker 2: How much for the A in the e?

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Speaker 1: There's fifty three os and thirty two eyes this puzzle,

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Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 2: My mom's maiden name was Mistrangelo, so what Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So, miss Strangel, is that with an M A or

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Speaker 1: an M I.

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Speaker 2: M A M A S t R A n G

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Speaker 2: E l O, A lot of owls in there, and

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Speaker 2: the only one you're missing is is an I and

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Speaker 2: a U.

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Speaker 1: Well there you go, yeah, Denucci the veto stellato dolato Strangelo. Sure, wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of owls there, beauty.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of par for the course. Uh, quickly, our

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Speaker 2: topic of discussion for you at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty we were talking yesterday about, you know, expectations

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Speaker 2: for Keon Coleman and such. No one's really talked about

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Speaker 2: the Bill's defense and the turnover that is taking place

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Speaker 2: there this offseason. And yet Sean McDermott and new defensive

511
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Speaker 2: coordinator Bobby Bavich have an awful lot to uphold based

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Speaker 2: on the recent track record. Despite all the injuries last year,

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Speaker 2: they still finished in the top ten. We're fifth in

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Speaker 2: the league in sacks with fifty four, so productive season.

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Speaker 2: A lot of takeaways as well, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: subtractions from that unit. How much pressure do you believe

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Speaker 2: is on the Bill's defense this upcoming season. We want

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on that at eight h three zero five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight five point fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 2: Those are the numbers to get on board. Got open

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Speaker 2: lines for you, or you can hit us up on

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet. As always at One Bill's Live, we

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Speaker 2: will take a break here, but when we return, we'll

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Speaker 2: lead off with Mark and West Seneca and your phone

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Speaker 2: calls here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health.

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Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and uh, I'm gonna get to

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Speaker 2: the phones here in a second. Apparently the landscapers here

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live are also celebrating World Donkey.

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Speaker 1: Day, Yes, by spreading Donkey maneuver all over the It

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Speaker 1: is permeating the off so bad because of the landscaping

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Speaker 1: they're getting doing out. Oh my gosh, they're prepping the beds.

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Speaker 2: With fertilizers, shall we say, And there is no mistose

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Speaker 2: of you think.

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Speaker 1: For those of you think our show stinks, it does

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Speaker 1: today it's it's almost it is so bad in here.

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Speaker 2: Our poor crew in the studio in the control room

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Speaker 2: got their shirts pulled up over their noses there, but

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Speaker 2: we will we will press on and go to the

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Speaker 2: phones where we are asking you how much pressure is

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Speaker 2: on the Bill's defense this upcoming season in light of

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Speaker 2: all the veteran losses from that side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: We go to the phones leading us off today, Mark

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Speaker 2: in West Seneca, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Mark?

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Speaker 4: Hey, gentlemen, you never cease to make me laugh. I

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Speaker 4: hope you guys are having a great time. Oh yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I was funny you mentioned the defense. I actually called

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Speaker 4: before you had your topic come up, but because I

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Speaker 4: wanted to talk about the buy thing that Steve was

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Speaker 4: talking about. But anyway, as far as the defense goes,

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Speaker 4: they've got pressure on them. There's no doubt about it,

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Speaker 4: simply because they've been over the last number of years

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Speaker 4: historically top five, top ten defense. And I mean they

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Speaker 4: had guys leave, but they still have talent and they

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Speaker 4: brought in some young people. Now, let's see what our

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Speaker 4: coaching staff does. I'd like to see them. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you guys should give me some names. Picked

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Speaker 4: up a free agent safety after June one, just to

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Speaker 4: get more veteran leadership back there. Somebody that may be

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Speaker 4: able to help out in a pinch or whatever. I

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Speaker 4: don't if there's anybody left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of safeties out there.

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Speaker 2: But I'll say this, Mark, you got two five year veterans.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like Taylor Rap and Mike Edwards

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Speaker 2: are wet behind the years. They both have five years

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Speaker 2: in this league. And if you remember when back in

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen when the Bill signed Poyer and Hyde, Hyde

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Speaker 2: was in the league for about four or five years,

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Speaker 2: and the same with Poyer. Port didn't have a lot

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Speaker 2: of game experience because he was kicking around and he

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Speaker 2: was a backup. But those guys had time in the league.

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Speaker 2: Edwards and Rap have started in this league.

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Speaker 4: My thoughts though, there're one injury away from really scrambling

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Speaker 4: back there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: And the same thing with the cornerbacks, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping Elom Hans a breakout year this year, but again,

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Speaker 4: they're one injury away from really scrambling. The kid that's

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Speaker 4: not a practice squad the last suple years at the

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Speaker 4: corner Mark name, yeah, I mean I think he showed

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Speaker 4: well when he did play a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: Through all the injury. But again, somebody that hasn't doesn't

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Speaker 4: have a lot of experience in the league. So I

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Speaker 4: think they really need if they can, to show up

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Speaker 4: either both corner and safety if they can, but definitely safety.

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Speaker 4: Definitely safety and real quick to put, I don't mean

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Speaker 4: to push back, Steve, because I agree with you so

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Speaker 4: much on so many things, but your system, what I

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Speaker 4: can see, has two flaws. The bye weeks to me,

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Speaker 4: is a rest for the players to a long, arduous season, okay,

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Speaker 4: and by the way training camps are and everything these days,

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Speaker 4: after two weeks to me, doesn't serve a real purpose

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Speaker 4: for the teams. And the other part of that is

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Speaker 4: now you're back to the old by system where people

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Speaker 4: start complaining, well we ad our buye after four you

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Speaker 4: know what would be say week five or six, and

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Speaker 4: then there's another team that gets there by at week

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Speaker 4: ten and eleven. Really helps them if they're in a

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Speaker 4: playoff push that kind of thing where I put pose

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Speaker 4: that if they go to a eighteen game schedule, I'd

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Speaker 4: like to see the season broken up into three six

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Speaker 4: week segments, and say after week six and seven, the

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Speaker 4: NFC all division games are played. The AFC's off the

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Speaker 4: following week, you reverse it, then you go roughly another

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Speaker 4: six weeks. Then you do the same thing all division

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Speaker 4: games in one conference, and then you reverse it to

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Speaker 4: the next and now everybody is on a level playing field.

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Speaker 4: The buys are happening roughly at the same time. The

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Speaker 4: season is broken up into six week segments, which hopefully

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Speaker 4: let's wear and tearor on bodies for the players. To me,

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Speaker 4: that makes sense, It really does make sense. I always

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Speaker 4: would hate it when the Bills bye week would come

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Speaker 4: Week four, five, and six, and then they would have

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Speaker 4: to play twelve more weeks and they get into the

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Speaker 4: playoffs and when they got guys be up at the

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Speaker 4: end of the year. They don't get an extra week

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Speaker 4: to heal where other teams do, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: totally unfair. So that's just my proposal. You'd so I'll

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Speaker 4: hang up and look to what you guys think of that.

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Speaker 1: And I'll listen to that. That sounds that sounds good

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Speaker 1: to me. I don't have a problem with that either.

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Speaker 1: The reason I was gonna doing it the way I

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Speaker 1: like doing it is that the league has always been

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Speaker 1: reticent to put a game on Labor Day because everybody's outside.

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Speaker 1: They the viewership drops, so let them go use that.

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Speaker 1: And I like this too. I like my way better,

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Speaker 1: not better, but I like your way too.

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Speaker 5: I like.

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Speaker 1: That the three and three, the six sixty six, that's nice.

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Speaker 1: I like it. It makes sense. But the reason I do

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Speaker 1: it is because the season will start early and finish earlier,

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Speaker 1: or finish where it's supposed to, instead of pushing it

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Speaker 1: all the way back into March or someplace or late

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Speaker 1: February to finish. Uh. I think doing it the way

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Speaker 1: I'm saying too, is gives teams a chance think about

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Speaker 1: this too. When you come out of training camp, there's

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Speaker 1: still some question mark that have to be answered. And

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Speaker 1: by giving them two regular season games and then everybody

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Speaker 1: gets a buye week, it gives the teams a chance

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Speaker 1: to kind of self evaluate after those first two games,

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Speaker 1: maybe get some guys healthy who've been struggling through camp,

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Speaker 1: Maybe get guys who are coming off an injury from

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Speaker 1: the year before. A couple of games and then arrest

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Speaker 1: and there's never We've learned this, there's never a bad

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Speaker 1: time for a bye week for the players of coaches.

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Speaker 1: It's never a bad time if it's week four They

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Speaker 1: love it because they need a break because of training

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Speaker 1: camp and the preseason and now a month in. If

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Speaker 1: it comes late in the season, that's awesome because hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to make a playoff run. Well, nobody cares.

653
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: If your team's two and twelve and you got two

654
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: games left and you take a bye week, nobody cares.

655
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Then right then the bye week's meaningless. So it also

656
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: takes it off of they're a positive side, So I'm

657
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: for I like the fact that the holiday, the Labor

658
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: Day holidays built in as a built in national break

659
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: for the whole league, and you can get some preseason

660
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: games and some regular season games in. So you've got

661
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: training camp, preseason, regular season, and then a big break

662
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: for everybody and it's all two weeks, two weeks, two weeks.

663
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: That's your six weeks.

664
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: As for your best remaining safety free agents, Justin Simmons

665
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: would be at the top of the list. Be interesting

666
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 2: to see if he signs a cheap one year deal

667
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: before trying to go back in free agency as one

668
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: of the premier safeties in the league. Eddie Jackson, good player,

669
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: Old Marcus May injury history, but a good player. Then

670
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: you got Micah Hyde, who's still contemplating retirement or playing.

671
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: Quandre Diggs wouldn't mind him, older player but still good.

672
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: Tracy Walker, Jamal Adams, j Ron Curse wouldn't mind him.

673
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: Adrian Phillips older, Tayshaun Gibson older, Kareem Jackson, older, Terrell Edmonds,

674
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Kean O'Neil, Rudy Ford, Ryan Neil, Adrian Amos, John Johnson.

675
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: Adrian Amos could be an affordable veteran back up. You

676
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: know a guy that would be willing to accept that

677
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: kind of a role. So there are options if you

678
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: want to add one more. I think you do have

679
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: to add an outside corner here somewhere, because the corner

680
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: you drafted is a backup at the nickel position in

681
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 2: Dai Juan Hardy and you have Benford, Douglas, JaMarcus Ingram

682
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: and Kyrie Iel.

683
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: You need it. You need that just for competition. At

684
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: least you give somebody a chance to take some reps

685
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: and to show off.

686
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: I would say one at each spot.

687
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I think you need a couple of guys at corner.

688
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: Certainly you've got guys that you're going to depend on,

689
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: and I think you've got your guys, but you you

690
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: got to bring somebody in to compete for a spot,

691
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: and you may find somebody who's really good. So I'm

692
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: with you there, Brownie. I think they could use a

693
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: spot there. There certainly may be another safety although it

694
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: may feel like they're set there the rosters. The roster's

695
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: pretty much ready to ready to go. Now. They may

696
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: tinker with it one or two players, but they they may.

697
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: And we've we saw this last year and I can't

698
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: remember the guys they did, but they released a couple

699
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: of guys signed, a couple guys released, a couple guys sign,

700
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: a couple of guys off.

701
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: And on bottom of the roster trained by Brandon a

702
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: common practice for him.

703
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: And it is and it is around the league. I

704
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: had I had a conversation with a head coach when

705
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: during my days at CBS, and he sat down, he

706
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: kind of drew it on a paper. He says, here's

707
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: what he goes, you know, and he kind of got

708
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: into the mechanics of the roster and he says, you

709
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: always and he says his bottom line was this, if

710
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: you got a guy out there who looks you bring

711
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: him in and work him out on Tuesdays during the season.

712
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Right he goes. You always do because if there's a

713
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: guy there, even if he's just gonna cover kicks, if

714
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: he's an athlete, a better athlete, you're making the move.

715
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna make the move, particularly if it's a position

716
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: that makes sense. You got too many of these guys,

717
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: But you got this guy over here who fills a

718
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: need on a on the roster, and he's a better athlete,

719
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: and he'll cover kicks and he'll come in you, and

720
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: you just make those moves constantly, and it's just part

721
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: of the process of making your team competitive. And logically speaking,

722
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: you're never going to sign a guy a bad guy.

723
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: You want to sign a guy that makes you better. Yeah,

724
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: And it gets harder and harder to do when you

725
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: get down to eighty third guy in your roster, eighty

726
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: fourth guy, eighty fifth guide or.

727
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: When you have a really good roster, or when you

728
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: have a good roster. How much pressure is on the

729
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: Bills defense this upcoming season? You let us know at

730
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: eight h three oh five fifty one, eight eight five

731
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty open lines for you to mark

732
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: in Jersey City. Next, what's up Mark?

733
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 5: Oh, good afternoon, gentlemen. The defense is going to be

734
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 5: just fine. I don't even have to go back three

735
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: years for Trey White hide ployer, just two years, forty

736
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 5: eight starts missed, They lost their you know, captain middle

737
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: linebacker in Edmunds. They were just fine. Everybody was just

738
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: panicking before the season. You know, you me, Chris, everybody.

739
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: Bernard didn't even have a training camp. Did he have

740
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 5: a preseason?

741
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: No, didn't play, unbelieve.

742
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, Von Miller played twelve games year, he got

743
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 5: zero production. I know they lost Lendon Floyd, but he

744
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: was pretty much non existence the second half of last year.

745
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 5: Dai Kwan Jones missed the ten games. They find a way,

746
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: I think they might just I think they are going

747
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: to be more athletic on the back end. I think

748
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 5: elm his tenure has been completely reset under a new coach,

749
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 5: just new energy. They let him get his college number back.

750
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: Even so, I almost look at this year for him

751
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 5: as year one of Mike Mike Edwards Bishop and I

752
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 5: think they're going to be more athletic and and be

753
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: able to play more games back there. I think they're

754
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 5: the defense will be just fine. And one more point

755
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 5: about yesterday, you know the Bills, I feel like they

756
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: got to the point where he is was the first

757
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 5: pick in the second round, the same as Keon Coleman

758
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 5: T Higgins. They T Higgins ran a four five nine

759
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: and Bills fans wanted the Bills to trade for him.

760
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 5: And it's two of a second. Coleman's his bert was

761
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: seven inches higher, his short area quickness was ten a

762
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 5: second faster. I think they'll they'll be just fine there too.

763
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 5: So thanks for taking my call.

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00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: Guys, appreciate sure thing.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

766
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up a good point. It's been an

767
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: older defense in recent years, and because of that, they've

768
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: lost a lot of man games to injury, and a

769
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: lot of these younger backups have played a significant amount

770
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: of football. There's no debating that that is a fact.

771
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: They had to plug up Daikwon Jones position since Week five.

772
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: Remember two years ago, Micah was out for the entire season, yes,

773
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: week two, all the way through.

774
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: So I think for two reasons, cap constraints number one,

775
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: overall age of the defense number two, they decided it

776
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: was time to turn it over and with a younger roster. Yes,

777
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: you might be losing a little bit of experience, veteran

778
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: savvy if you will, but you also might have better

779
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: week to week availability because you've got younger bodies running around.

780
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and certainly when the guys are out there and

781
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: they're all healthy, they'll be more athletic. That's just the

782
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: way it goes.

783
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: Now.

784
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Some of the stuff that you'd see, and we've talked

785
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: about at length the games, and that Mark from Jersey

786
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: City was just saying, the games that they can play

787
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: out there because they're more athletic have less to do

788
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: with their athleticism, and it does with what's going on

789
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: in the neck up. That's where the games are being played.

790
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: And you've got two safeties moving around in the secondary

791
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: who have an understanding of what a quarterback is looking

792
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: for from the secondary about telling them what coverage they're playing,

793
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: and they can do things in concert to give him

794
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: the wrong idea before the snap. That's all. That's all games,

795
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: and that's what Poyer and Hyde were so good at,

796
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: and that takes some getting used to.

797
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: It'll be an adjustment.

798
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: It'll be an adjustment.

799
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but more of your

800
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: phone calls when we come back. We'll lead off with

801
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 2: Patrick in Pennsylvania when we return here on One Bill's

802
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: Live presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

803
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown

804
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: Steed to ask you with you where we were asking

805
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: you how much pressure is on the Bill's defense this

806
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: upcoming season. We go back to the phones and leaving

807
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Speaker 2: us off this segment is Patrick down in Pennsylvania. What's up?

808
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: Patrick?

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00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 6: Hey, chrisy Steve, thanks a lot for taking my call.

810
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 6: I really appreciate it. What I have to say is

811
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 6: it's really not as to pertain to the question you

812
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 6: guys have gone today. I want to talk about the

813
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 6: received room, if I may, Okay, I do believe there's

814
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 6: a reason for optimism with the room in general, but

815
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 6: I do think there's there's a chance for some downside

816
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 6: as well. I know there's a lot of hope for

817
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 6: Curtis Samuel coming in, and I you like him as

818
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 6: a player. I think we are going to be relying

819
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 6: on him quite heavily. But uh, he's been more of

820
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 6: a gadget guy so out his entire career, even dating

821
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 6: back to Ohio State. He's never really I know some

822
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 6: of his like advanced separation numbers and whatnot are pretty good,

823
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 6: but he's never really consistently beaten like the elite coverage

824
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 6: in the league, and I think that's really kind of

825
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 6: what we were looking for. And and well, you know,

826
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 6: we'll see. I do think there's a reason for upside

827
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 6: for him, but he's never had a thousand yard but

828
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 6: a season. I think he's just more of a soup

829
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 6: cup gadget role guy, and I think we're kind of

830
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 6: banking on him to be more so I guess we'll see.

831
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Speaker 6: I know we're hoping for Kincaid to really take a

832
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 6: take a next step forward, and I think he's capable

833
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 6: of that. But then again, you know you're relying on

834
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 6: a second year tight end uh for a lot there.

835
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Speaker 6: And I like Shakir, you know, like I said, there

836
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 6: is reason for upside with with a lot of the

837
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 6: weapons we've gott and I really like Coleman too. You know,

838
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 6: I don't mind that selection with the first pick of

839
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 6: the second round. There that a lot of these guys

840
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 6: have up tide. But I do think there's a chance

841
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 6: where we're also maybe hoping for more maybe mid season

842
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 6: for this room. I would have really liked to see

843
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 6: them maybe take another a second receiver at any point

844
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 6: in the draft this year, and I know we've taken

845
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 6: some stats on some Claypool types and whatnot. You know,

846
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 6: we'll see, you know, those guys have some measurables and

847
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 6: stuff there that are nice. But I just think, you know,

848
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: I do hear a lot of room for optimism, you

849
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 6: know about the fans and whatnot, and I agree with that,

850
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 6: but I do think there's a side here where, you know,

851
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 6: they we could also maybe be wanting more at some point.

852
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 6: I just wanted to hear your guys' take on that.

853
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Samuel is the one that maybe I'm

854
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: a little more bullish on than people like yourself, Patrick,

855
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: because of the quarterbacks he's played with for the majority

856
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: of his career. I mean, we're talking about guys like

857
00:45:53,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater, Taylor Heineke, Sam Howell. And despite that,

858
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: this guy has four or sorry, three sixty plus catch

859
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: seasons he has been and on top of that, he

860
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: has never been the quote unquote number one receiver in

861
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: the offense. It was DJ Moore in Carolina. I'm I'm

862
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: misplacing the name in Washington, but you had Johan Dotts

863
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 2: in there, and the other guy is oh Terry McLaurin.

864
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin was the number one in Washington. DJ Moore

865
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: was the number one when Curtis Samuel was in Carolina.

866
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: So as a number two slash number three receiver, I

867
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: think the guy was pretty damn productive with some pretty

868
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: average quarterbacks. So now you put him with an A

869
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: plus quarterback in Josh Allen, I don't think it's unrealistic

870
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: to see him as the number two or the number

871
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: three in this offense and give you just is good,

872
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: if not better production. And I know it's been said,

873
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: but I'll say it again. Joe Brady was his offensive

874
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: coordinator in twenty twenty in Carolina with one of those

875
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: average quarterbacks, and he had a career best season seventy

876
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: seven catches for eight hundred and fifty one yards and

877
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: three touchdowns. I think if you had a couple more touchdowns,

878
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: you take that season from Curtis Samuel in this offense, absolutely,

879
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: seventy seven for eight to fifty and yeah, half a

880
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: dozen touchdowns.

881
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's you can see too by

882
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: what Brownie just said, there's reason for to think there's

883
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: still an upside with Curtis Samuel.

884
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: And Josh Allen's a big reason for that.

885
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and opportunity. Certainly, you can say, well, he's been

886
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: in the league for a while, yep. But like Brownie said,

887
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: he has never been on an offense like this one

888
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: with a quarterback like this one, this offensive coordinator. Yeah,

889
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: you got to know that when they go back and

890
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: when Joe Brady's asked, like, hey, we got this list

891
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 1: of guys, Joe Brady's gonna have a strong opinion about

892
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: all of them, let alone Curtis Samuel. He's probably got

893
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: a depth of knowledge about Curtis Samuel he doesn't have

894
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: with those other guys. He says, Yeah, give me Curtis Samuel.

895
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: I can use him, which can cannot do? Plus that

896
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: gives you an that should give you some optimism about

897
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: what they believe he can do. So you're right, there

898
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: are lots of questions that have to be answered. Keon

899
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: Coleman being the most the most unknown of the commodities

900
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about Curtis Samuel. You know something about him.

901
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: You know he's not going to fall on his face,

902
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: but he may not be as good as we want

903
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: him to be. Khalilshakir, you're saying, you know you don't.

904
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't know you said Kalishakir crescendoed last year. I mean,

905
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: the last we saw of him, he was the guy.

906
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know about your head resident your reservations

907
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: about depending on what you called a second year tight end.

908
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: Dude, guy's gonna get one hundred and twenty targets.

909
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll tell you what, there's thirty one of

910
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: the teams that would line up to get our second

911
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: year tight end. So I'm I'm with you. I think

912
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: there's there's far more reason to be very optimistic about

913
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: where this offense is headed. Certainly, a lot of it

914
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: has to do with the quarterback taking snaps. Certainly, a

915
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with some things that

916
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: are unknown another year with Joe Brady a new number

917
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: one receiver coming in and Keon coleman Uh a new

918
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: number two wide receiver with Curtis Samuel h Will Khalil

919
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: Shakir take a step forward or will he take a

920
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: step back? Or will he be the same as he

921
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: was at the end of the season. There's a lot

922
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: of things we don't know yet. Some of those questions

923
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: are true of every team. But I think that you

924
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: can you can see why guys like well, me in particular,

925
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm very bullish on what this offense is gonna look

926
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: like this year. I think they're gonna they're gonna they're

927
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: gonna be a wagon. I think, now, say what you want,

928
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: I that that's the way I see it. These guys,

929
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: Ken Kid and Shakir are are more outside of Travis Kelsey.

930
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: They're more way more than Pat Mahomes had all of

931
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: last year, and you know, with even when Rashi Rice

932
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: became their number one. So I'm, yeah, I get it.

933
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: A lot of unknowns with this offense, but there's every

934
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: reason to believe, and yeah, every reason to believe that

935
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be a pretty positive result when you

936
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: get these guys in the room with Josh.

937
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. When we come back our

938
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: number two, We'll begin with senior NFL writer for The

939
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: Athletic Mike Sando, who put together a comprehensive review of

940
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: each team's draft class by soliciting the opinion of other

941
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 2: personnel executives in the league about the other team's choices.

942
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: Some interesting findings coming your way next here on One

943
00:50:41,920 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

944
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

945
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

946
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and please to be joined now

947
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 2: by senior NFL writer for The Athletic Mike Sando, who's

948
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: joining us after a piece he put up on The

949
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: Athletic about league executives commenting on the draft classes of

950
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: other teams. I mean, everybody loves their own draft class.

951
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: So Mike did a little digging to see what people

952
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: thought of other draft classes around the league. Maybe get

953
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more honest opinion, maybe a different outlook

954
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: as well. So Mike, thanks for doing the legwork on

955
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 2: that and working your way through the league on thirty

956
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: two draft classes.

957
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really fun. You know what I enjoy about

958
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 7: doing this is not so much, Hey this guy in

959
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 7: the third round is going to be a good player

960
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 7: because we don't really know that. I like more of

961
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 7: the ideas of what about this, Hey, this was the

962
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 7: trade off? The team made this decision, This was the

963
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 7: trade off or this was a continuation of last year? Hey,

964
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 7: would you rather have done gone down this path than

965
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 7: that path? I think that's what's really fun about it.

966
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 7: So there's a few of those with the Bills obviously

967
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 7: here too.

968
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's the What was the general consensus of the

969
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: executives that you spoke to about the Bills draft class

970
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: and particularly the moves they made at the end of

971
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: Night one to move completely out of the round.

972
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that, you know, there was no huge

973
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 7: protest to what they did, but I feel like, you know,

974
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 7: they do have to. They're tied to the Chiefs no

975
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 7: matter what, what do they like it or not, right,

976
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 7: And so these two picks with basically Buffalo kind of

977
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 7: sort of symbolically enabling the Chiefs to get a very

978
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 7: different kind of receiver, a real little super fast guy

979
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 7: when they haven't had enough speed, and then the Bills

980
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 7: kind of you know, bailing out, which is fine, but

981
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 7: getting a you know, a big receiver, a different type

982
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 7: of receiver. Those moves are going to be linked because

983
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 7: these rivals are linked. And so for the Bills, I

984
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 7: just kind of think in a one off it's no

985
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 7: big deal that you that you traded with Kansas City

986
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 7: or they get Kansas City got the receiver, no big deal.

987
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 7: But there's a lot of kind of baggage that comes

988
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 7: with the last few years of the Bills, Right, there's

989
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 7: just there's a bunch of things you can sort of

990
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 7: stack together that each by themselves isn't that big of

991
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 7: a deal, but you put them all together, there's a

992
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 7: little bit of a cumulative weight. So I do feel

993
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 7: like that maneuver and the way it came out, probably

994
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 7: will take on a little bit of outsized meaning for

995
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 7: positive or negative, just because the nature of the Bills

996
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 7: and the rivalry.

997
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, you're right, they're gonna exaggerate the difference between

998
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, Keon Coleman and Xavier Worthy. I mean, those

999
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: two guys are going to be looked at a lot

1000
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: like the Buffalo Bills trading, you know, six or seven

1001
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: years ago out of the spot where Kansas City picked

1002
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. Certainly, the Bills are happy with the guy

1003
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: they've got. Certainly the Chiefs couldn't be more happy with

1004
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: the guy that they got. But those two guys, you know,

1005
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: you can't take your pick, no question, and you can

1006
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: ask yourself forever, would Patrick Mahomes be as successful in

1007
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo as he has been in Kansas City. I don't

1008
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: know that the answer is that easy to say, because

1009
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: we don't know so much about it. But that's where

1010
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: we're at right when the at this point of this draft,

1011
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: we're at the front end of this draft, even though

1012
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: the draft is over, because we got to see how

1013
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: all these guys pan out.

1014
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 7: Yeah a little bit. To me, the Mahomes thing is

1015
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 7: isn't as big of a do that's a long time ago.

1016
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: It was early on. The Bills got a great quarterback.

1017
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 7: You know, I don't feel like we didn't know that

1018
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 7: Mahomes would be this good, and we don't know that

1019
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 7: he would be that good in Buffalo, I mean, and

1020
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 7: he reads a big part of this thing too, So

1021
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 7: that one I think was so early on that you

1022
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 7: can go back in retrospect and say it. But there's

1023
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 7: so many things that have happened for these teams in

1024
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 7: between these teams since then that it makes this one

1025
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 7: seem to me it's not only the more recent one,

1026
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 7: but you know, it's in light of all of that history.

1027
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 7: So I don't think as a team though, if you're Buffalo,

1028
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 7: you can worry too much about who the Chiefs are

1029
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 7: going to take, because you got who you want to take.

1030
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 7: It's not like the Bills didn't get who they wanted

1031
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 7: to get. I mean, they explicitly did this move, so

1032
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 7: you know, you know, could they have tried to block

1033
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 7: the Chiefs or not play ball the chief Sure, but

1034
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 7: their number one priority is to get the value they

1035
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 7: want to get and get the player they want to get,

1036
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 7: and they have to live with whatever Kansas City does.

1037
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the other thing that people don't

1038
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: remember is the Chiefs didn't pick in the third round

1039
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: because that's what they parted with to move up. And

1040
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: the Bills, who many in many people's eyes got screwed

1041
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: out of a third round compensatory for the loss of

1042
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmonds and instead got a four, suddenly had the

1043
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: third round pick that they wanted all along and made

1044
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 2: use of it by fortifying their defensive interior with Dwayne Carter.

1045
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: So the Bills went from one pick on Day two

1046
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: to three, where it was clear Brandon Bean saw the

1047
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: best value in the entire class in Day two, rounds

1048
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: two and three, and he parlayed one pick into three

1049
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: in that span of the draft. So I know they're

1050
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: over the moon, and I don't expect them to say

1051
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: anything else, But was there a general consensus that that's

1052
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: where the meat and potatoes of this draft class was

1053
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: round two and three.

1054
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 7: Well, there was a lot of times there is this consensus,

1055
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 7: and I felt like it was this year too, that

1056
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 7: after you get to a certain point in the draft,

1057
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 7: where's twenty twenty five, you know there's a span of

1058
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 7: picks maybe twenty to forty that are somewhat similar that

1059
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 7: you know you may prioritize one guy. We saw the

1060
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 7: Rams trade way up. They had to have Fisk the

1061
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 7: defensive alignment from Florida State. But for the most part,

1062
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 7: in big picture, you feel like a lot of those

1063
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 7: players are going to be kind of interchangeable in their value.

1064
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: So yes, you you.

1065
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 7: Win the process of the draft by moving back a

1066
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 7: couple spots and picking up additional picks. Now, in this

1067
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 7: draft there was a feeling too because of Nil you know,

1068
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 7: keep having some people return to college that wouldn't have

1069
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 7: before that. It was a little bit more of a

1070
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 7: sharper drop off, you know, after let's just say the

1071
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 7: first three rounds. Everybody probably had that a little different, right.

1072
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 7: Some people maybe saw it was after one hundred players.

1073
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 7: Other people maybe saw it was one hundred and twenty players. Obviously,

1074
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 7: the Bills operated thinking they were going to get really

1075
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 7: good value.

1076
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: Wherever that was.

1077
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 7: Ninety five was about ninety five somewhere in there, ninety

1078
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 7: five in there, So I think it made sense to

1079
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 7: do that, definitely, to take take another pick, fill in

1080
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 7: a blank and get two players, especially if Keon was

1081
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 7: the guy you wanted all along, Right, it's a huge win, right.

1082
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And certainly the Bills, you know, had some roster turnover,

1083
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: particularly on the defensive side of the ball. All I

1084
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: was made out of the wide receiver and the and

1085
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: the vacancy by Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs. But the

1086
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: real turnover came on the other side of the ball.

1087
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: And as you look at the ten picks that the

1088
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Bills had in this draft, they bolstered their roster at

1089
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: all three levels of both sides of the ball. They

1090
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: got offensive linemen, running back, wide receiver. They got defensive tackle,

1091
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: defensive end, linebacker, corner, and safety. So they really they

1092
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: really hit every open spot on the roster with a

1093
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: draft pick in this And I'm not saying that that

1094
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: there were needs everywhere, but they certainly certainly you know,

1095
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: scattershot the entire roster with their draft picks. They sure

1096
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: did I.

1097
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 7: Think it would be interesting, based on what I said

1098
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 7: about people perceiving there to be this huge drop off

1099
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 7: in the draft, to see what comes. You know, who

1100
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 7: does get some players after let's just say the fourth round.

1101
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 7: The Bills had I think three fifth round picks A

1102
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 7: six a couple or two six is a seven. If

1103
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 7: they can hit on some of those, they're really probably

1104
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 7: beating the odds in this draft. As I look at

1105
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 7: those guys they got, I mean you're talking to the

1106
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 7: sixth round. You're getting the twenty fourth tackle right in

1107
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 7: the draft, or or Solomon is the fifteenth edge rusher. Right,

1108
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 7: You're really down the interesting ones to me? Are you

1109
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 7: know they got the center Cedric van Pran grang Rangers.

1110
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 7: You say it right, he's the fifth center in the draft.

1111
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 7: That's pretty good. The safety they got Cole Bishop the

1112
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 7: second or the third, I guess, the third safety in

1113
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 7: the draft. So those are ones you maybe look on

1114
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 7: to hit at a little bit of a higher rate. Right,

1115
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 7: That's that's the tradeoff after the first round is you're

1116
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 7: going to get a non premium position, but you you

1117
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 7: should have at least maybe a little bit of a

1118
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 7: better chance of hitting.

1119
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: And they needed that.

1120
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 7: You're right, they lost a lot of guys, so they

1121
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 7: need some of these guys to come in, not necesarily

1122
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 7: be a star, but still a role.

1123
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, Attacking depth is certainly what they did. And

1124
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: I think we're looking at a little bit of a

1125
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: different Bills roster makeup this year that will be relying

1126
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: on this influx of youth, probably more than they have

1127
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: in years past when they were one of the oldest

1128
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: rosters in football. Suddenly that turnover happens in the span

1129
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: of one offseason due to some players aging out, but

1130
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: also due to cap constraints and having a part with

1131
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: high priced veteran talent like a Mitch Morris for example,

1132
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: who was a cat cat casualty. So how do you

1133
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: because we suffer from Bill's myopia here all the time,

1134
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: how do outside how do outside observers view this iteration

1135
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: of the Bills, Because from our viewpoint, I would say

1136
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott staff is one of the best in the

1137
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: Bill's history for player development. They're really going to have

1138
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: to rely on the coach's acumen in player development. I

1139
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: think this year maybe for the first time, I'm and

1140
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: more since he took over in twenty seventeen.

1141
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 7: Remember writing a column in the middle of last year

1142
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 7: when we were starting to see the age catch up

1143
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 7: on defense for the Bills, and you know, from an

1144
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 7: injury standpoint and otherwise, and I really thought at that time,

1145
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 7: I hate to bring the Chiefs back into it, but

1146
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 7: they had to do what Kansas City did, which was

1147
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 7: Kansas City turned over their defense and they took their

1148
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 7: lumps a little bit, but they picked really good players

1149
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 7: in the draft, and they then had a good coordinator

1150
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 7: and Steve Spagnolo abled, like you said, develop and get

1151
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 7: these guys going to have a top ten defense. That's cheap,

1152
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 7: which is the oldest sort of axiom in modern football.

1153
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 7: When you pay your quarterback, the defense usually falls off.

1154
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 7: You can't sign you know, Von Millers forever. So they

1155
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 7: have to now do what Kansas City did. I think

1156
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 7: that's how Kansas City won the Super Bowl this last year.

1157
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 7: They weren't great on offense, they had Mahomes, but they

1158
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 7: really got young and good on defense.

1159
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: So Bill do that.

1160
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 7: They have some of the same hallmarks in place, like

1161
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 7: you said, a pretty good history of developing players. They

1162
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 7: have not only a good defensive coordinator, their head coach

1163
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 7: is the is the defensive guy, right, So you'd think

1164
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 7: that would be an advantage for them and an ability

1165
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 7: to make it work. But if it was easy, more

1166
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 7: teams would do it. We see a lot of teams

1167
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 7: over the years have a good quarterback, whether it was

1168
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 7: the Packers with Aaron Rodgers or the Saints with Drew Brees,

1169
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 7: and there's a reason those guys who are all time

1170
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 7: great quarterbacks won you know, only won Super Bowl or

1171
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 7: in some cases, you know, top quarterbacks never won one.

1172
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 7: And that's going to be the challenge now for the Bills.

1173
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 7: Hard enough, they've had great teams as it is now

1174
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 7: to win a Super Bowl. Now you're going to try

1175
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 7: to do it with a cheaper defense where your margin

1176
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 7: for air, you know, is a little bit smaller with

1177
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 7: these draft picks. So you know it's going to be

1178
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 7: an exciting time, but it's also a difficult trick to

1179
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 7: pull off.

1180
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, you're talking about the Chiefs kind of always

1181
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: creep back in to the conversation, particularly after this draft

1182
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: when the Bills dealt with the Chiefs and then the

1183
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: Bills have been put out of the playoffs by the

1184
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: Chiefs and three years in a row and so that's

1185
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: always going to be. There's the Bills chasing Kansas City.

1186
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: There are three other teams that are chasing Buffalo, Miami,

1187
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: the Jets, New England. Those teams are trying to chase

1188
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo down because they're the four time division champs. And

1189
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: right now, there's not too many guys you can point

1190
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: to in the league or in the division that are

1191
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna beat Buffalo. So you look at

1192
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: a team like Miami. They get a guy like Chop

1193
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: Robinson on the edge, they get a couple of defensive guys,

1194
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: a couple of edge guys in the first four picks,

1195
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: and they get a couple of offensive guys in the

1196
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: first four picks. What are your thoughts about Miami, how

1197
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: they came into this draft, how they exited it, and

1198
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: how the mix is different in Miami with an offensive

1199
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: play calling head coach whereas in Buffalo you got a

1200
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: defensive calling head coach. Well, you saw it for them,

1201
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: they made it.

1202
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 7: They gave up a third round pick next year to

1203
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 7: get a running back in the fourth round at one twenty.

1204
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 7: I believe that was an oddity, but you feel, really if, hey,

1205
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 7: if I was going to do that, for any head coach.

1206
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 7: Mike mcgahea might be one of them.

1207
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: He can find a way to make those guys go.

1208
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 7: They were also hurt not having their own third and

1209
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 7: the Tom Brady tampering situation. They've got a ton of

1210
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 7: money at the edge rusher position now with injured guys.

1211
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 7: So now you add Chop Robinson to that, you know,

1212
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 7: more resources to a really important component of your team.

1213
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 7: But I think they're diminished at that point. And by

1214
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 7: the way, they haven't paid the quarterback, and by the way,

1215
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 7: their quarterback doesn't have the same physical ability to put

1216
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 7: the whole team on his back like a Josh Allen

1217
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 7: has shown. So you know, I wonder if they've peaked

1218
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 7: or sort of you know, missed their window here of

1219
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 7: having the best possible roster, because you've got to figure

1220
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill is not going to get better from this

1221
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 7: point forward, right, He's going to have a limited number

1222
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 7: of years left where he's just completely elite. So, you know,

1223
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 7: we'll see if they're able to gain on you know

1224
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 7: what they did last year. I think I need to.

1225
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 7: I think I'll believe it when I see it.

1226
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, last one for me, Mike, I found the dichotomy

1227
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: of the comments you got from executives around the league

1228
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: on the Jets pretty interesting because the general feeling was,

1229
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: Sala and Joe Douglas have to get to the playoffs

1230
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: this year with the investment that was made in Aaron Rodgers,

1231
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: and if they don't, their seats get awfully hot, awfully

1232
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: fast and could be out of work. And so you're thinking,

1233
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: all right, they're going to draft to win now. So

1234
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: everybody under the sun thought if brock Bowers was on

1235
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: the board, he was going to be the pick, and

1236
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: then instead they go with the long range plan, which

1237
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: is something that Jets historically have never been good at.

1238
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: So maybe ten years ago this would have been the

1239
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: right pick for that kind of a build. But Aaron

1240
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers may only play one more year and this kid

1241
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: may not get on the field unless there's an injury.

1242
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 7: See, I know, I feel like the Jets can't win

1243
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 7: coming into this draft because if they you Bowers, Everyone's

1244
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 7: gonna go, oh there you go an a short side

1245
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 7: of moved by the Jets. I mean, they get are

1246
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 7: all in on this Aaron Rodgers thing. What a joke.

1247
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 7: You know, these guys. Rogers is going to fall off

1248
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 7: this year, they got one year left. Now you've taken

1249
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 7: a tight end as a building block for the next

1250
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 7: five years. But then they do the thing that you

1251
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 7: know is the more fundamentally sald maneuver. You take an

1252
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 7: offensive lineman early. Even taking a wide receiver in the

1253
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 7: third round makes some sense, and people go, well, those

1254
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 7: guys are going to be fired this year anyway. So

1255
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 7: I think that's just a reflection of the fact that

1256
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 7: they put themselves in a really bad situation and so

1257
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 7: there was real there was no real way for them

1258
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 7: to make a pick that checked all the boxes, because

1259
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 7: there are and it's a short term mode. So you know,

1260
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 7: we'll see. I think I like taking an offensive lineman

1261
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 7: there rather than forcing a non premium position, but you're right,

1262
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 7: you know, we'll see how much it helps. The other hand,

1263
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 7: the guy may be starting in week four. They got

1264
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 7: Tyron Smith as their left tackle. He's older, he's had injuries,

1265
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 7: you know, so he may get on the field. In fact,

1266
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 7: I would sort of bet that he's going to start

1267
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 7: some games. Yeah, And finally, for me, want to talk

1268
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 7: to you about the last team in the NFC AFC East,

1269
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 7: the New England Patriots. They go in they picked, They

1270
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 7: had a couple of reportedly massive offers to trade out

1271
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 7: of that number three spot.

1272
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: They stay there. They pick a quarterback, and now they're

1273
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: trying to hire a GM. So who picked the quarterback?

1274
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: And now that they've picked that quarterback, they're going to

1275
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: bring a guy in who doesn't know the guy didn't

1276
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: pick the guy. A lot going on in New England

1277
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: that is a little puzzling.

1278
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think what we're seeing is everything is

1279
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 7: in relation to the fact that they were tired of

1280
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 7: the situation with Belichick, right, and Bill Belichick kind of

1281
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 7: having total control and then only that building up a

1282
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 7: wall between football operations and his little world and ownership

1283
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 7: and all of that. So I think the natural pivot

1284
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 7: for them was, you know, Robert Craft and Jonathan Craft,

1285
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 7: the owners of the team, wanting to have more of

1286
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 7: a say and be more involved. So them not hiring

1287
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 7: a GM was really the ability, you know, letting Jonathan

1288
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 7: Craft kind of be the GM or at least have

1289
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 7: a much bigger voice than they've had. And now if

1290
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 7: they put Elliott Wolf for somebody into that GM role,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be within that construct of Hey, the

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Speaker 7: owner Craft Jonathan in this case is going to have

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Speaker 7: a bigger role.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: What makes them interesting though, is that Robert Craft, because

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Speaker 7: of his age, you know, probably doesn't want to have

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Speaker 7: a five year plan right now, right So I think

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Speaker 7: it would have been ideal to make them move back

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Speaker 7: and look, you could save this video and Drake may

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Speaker 7: maybe a Hall of Famer and it may seem ridiculous,

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Speaker 7: but I just didn't feel like there was a huge

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Speaker 7: consensus on him, Drake may as the third quarterback in

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Speaker 7: this draft that warranted just standing completely pat because you

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Speaker 7: could have moved out it appears, gotten a bunch of

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Speaker 7: assets for your long term build, and still taken what

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Speaker 7: might be a lower odds quarterback come away in this draft.

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Speaker 7: What door you've got, you know, JJ McCarthy or Bo

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Speaker 7: Pennix or whatever. You could still get a guy, and

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Speaker 7: they have Jacoby Preside who could get him through this year.

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Speaker 7: So I think I'm just very interested in seeing how

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Speaker 7: their outlook changes and evolves over the next year. Because

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what the Belichick thing reminds me of

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Speaker 7: this transfer, you know, into Girod Mayo. I was recently

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Speaker 7: at the time, had been a Seahawks beat reporter. Mike

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Speaker 7: Holmgan was their long term coach that had a ton

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Speaker 7: of power, and they had this internal succession plan to

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Speaker 7: go to Jim Mora, the younger Jim Mora. Jim was

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Speaker 7: on Mike's staff and Jim took over, and after one

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Speaker 7: year they brought him Pete Carroll because they wanted to

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Speaker 7: go for a big name. So I think we're in

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Speaker 7: a big transition period for New England. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 7: surprised at all if anything big happened a year from

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Speaker 7: now there. And I think we just sort of need

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Speaker 7: to let it settle out and figure out who they

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Speaker 7: are because they're figuring it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good stuff. Thanks as always for the time.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it. We'll catch up with you down the

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Speaker 2: line and enjoy the off season.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, great, you two.

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Speaker 2: Thanks all right. So that's Mike Sando, senior NFL writer

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Speaker 2: for The Athletic, joining us an interesting take there at

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Speaker 2: the very end about New England, saying it reminds him

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Speaker 2: a lot of the Holme grin Jim Mora junior transfer

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Speaker 2: from you know, holmegren Leaves had enormous power in the

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Speaker 2: front office and making personnel decisions. In addition to coaching

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Speaker 2: the team. They go to Jim Mora Junior and a

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Speaker 2: GM with him model and it fails miserably, and before

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Speaker 2: they know it, it's John Schneider and Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: It fails miserably because it was supposed to fail miserably.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Bill Belichick doing it, all

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Speaker 1: the things he did in New England for that franchise

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Speaker 1: and all the stuff that is, and even though it

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Speaker 1: turned a little bit stale at the end, to say

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Speaker 1: the least, he probably did have a really strong voice

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Speaker 1: in the successor you know who came in. You know,

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Speaker 1: here's the next guy, here's And because of that, I

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01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: think Robert Kraft and Jonathan Kraft were probably going, yes, okay, Bill,

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Speaker 1: you got it. And then when he's out the door,

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: they can't wait to listen. We're wiping the deck clean.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Gerard, love you, but we're done. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: on our own way without this legacy looking at us

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: all every day, you know what I mean, just being

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Speaker 1: completely done with it. And it's gonna take himn extra

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Speaker 1: year to do it.

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Speaker 2: So Mayo hasn't coached a game yet, and people are

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Speaker 2: wondering if he's won and done well.

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Speaker 1: What he inherited doesn't certainly certainly doesn't leave much.

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Speaker 2: It's a total rebuild, absolutely, and you're just gonna use

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Speaker 2: this guy.

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Speaker 1: You can you can play both sides of that coin, though, Brownie.

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Speaker 1: You can say he's not supposed to be they're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to be any good. Well, you see rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Let's just give it him a minute and then, or

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Speaker 1: you can say, wow, whatever he did was, Hey, they

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: played pretty well under Gerard. Are you gonna let's give

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Speaker 1: him another year? Let's he's doing some stuff. I like it.

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Speaker 2: H He could very just as easily be a sacrificial lamb.

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Speaker 1: But it's a low bar, yes, movement, it's a low

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Speaker 1: bar over there. But also if if they do go

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Speaker 1: one and done with him, it was decided two years

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Speaker 1: ago that the next year was going to be a

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Speaker 1: one and twenty year done right, You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's a low bar. How could he not? How could

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Speaker 1: he be worth.

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Speaker 2: Bringing a no time head coach, first time head coach

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Speaker 2: I believe at any level for girod mao, and then

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Speaker 2: replace him with a much bigger name, more marketable name,

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Speaker 2: with far more coaching acumen, Right, that's probably what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, Wow, it's a tough business man, this head coaching.

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Speaker 1: Gig yesh, well listen, they pay you for it.

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Speaker 2: But well, I know, but my goodness, I mean talk

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Speaker 2: about man.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion that we're talking about concerns the Bill's

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Speaker 2: defense and how much pressure you think is on that

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01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: unit upcoming season with their turnover on that side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, the loss of handful of veteran players, Trey White,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Leonard Floyd. I mean, run down

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Speaker 2: the list, how much pressure is on them? I will

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Speaker 2: say this, Steve, if you had to pick a player

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Speaker 2: on the defensive unit who is under the most pressure

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Speaker 2: to perform, I think it's Von Miller by a landslide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even with his new contract, because he's the most

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Speaker 1: prominent name left standing, and.

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Speaker 2: Because he's coming off a get right season where there

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Speaker 2: was zero production quite literally right.

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Speaker 1: And you could say you could make the same pronouncement

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Speaker 1: about Matt Milano.

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Speaker 2: That's more of a comeback.

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Speaker 1: Fact, that's more of a comeback. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: any pressure on him. Perhaps you could put it on

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01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: in the lap of Kyrie Elam. Maybe he's under some pressure.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about if the unit is going to

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Speaker 2: perform and be what it has always been, which is

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Speaker 2: essentially a top ten unit, von Miller has to be

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Speaker 2: a big reason why.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, absolutely, there's no there's no nobody o there. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there's Even though we're sitting here talking about it, there's

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Speaker 1: nobody else in the conversation. It's von Miller's unit. Forget

1412
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: about he's got to lead the past rasigent. No, he

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: is the voice and the face of the entire defensive unit.

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01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: Now there's nobody else left standing him. Bernard. You can

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Speaker 1: say that about. But Bernard is fairly new to the game.

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Speaker 1: And while he played extremely well and he's got a

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Speaker 1: voice inside the locker room, publicly out where we live,

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Speaker 1: it's von Miller's. It's von Miller's show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, then I would agree with you because we

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: know in one short year as the starter in the

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Speaker 2: quarterback of this defense, he's got eyeballs on him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, in that locker room I'm talking about And I'll

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Speaker 1: say this, he they believe that guy. I'll say that

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01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: they he far and away away all expectations. He was

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Speaker 1: a home came.

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Speaker 2: The furthest a home run by far because this time

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Speaker 2: last year we're like, how's he gonna look in there?

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Speaker 1: And what was it gonna be? Yeah, and also yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember there was like four guys you were sitting there,

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Speaker 1: and he was an absolute home run at a point

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: where you're just hoping he could draw a walk, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm you're just hoping he has a good eye, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he was way more than that. So I don't know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's not the It's not the same with Bernard

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Speaker 1: as it is with Vaughan. Even though Bernard had a

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Speaker 1: better season last year and is the center of the defense,

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: calls the plays, probably gonna be a team captain, it's

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: not the same as when you're talking about Vaughn.

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Speaker 2: How much pressure is on the Bills defense this upcoming season.

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01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 2: You let us know open lines for you eight h

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Speaker 2: three zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty Still got to crack open that tweets sheet

1443
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Speaker 2: as well, where you've sent some comments. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: those when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 2: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome

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01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: back One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: How much pressure is on the Bills defense this upcoming season?

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: You let us know at eight oh three oh five

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01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two,

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01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: five point fifty Back to the phones we go, and

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,480
Speaker 2: waiting there for us is Dale out in Utah. What's up? Dale?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys listen almost every day mostly on a podcast

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01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 8: of two hours behind you guys, So just a quick question,

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 8: whatever happened to whatever happened to the Friday thing? Mister Tasker.

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01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 8: By the way, mister Tasker, I loved that bit. That

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01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 8: was great, all the stories and same with Joe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are usually reserved for the regular season. So

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01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: we'll see if that makes a return of here septemph

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: about your your fine segment. Excuse me, mister town Oh yeah, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 2: regular season only I.

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Speaker 8: Missed that, all right. One last quick thought, undraft, I

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 8: was serious as most Bills fans were way out here

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 8: shouting alone. There's no Bills fans in southern Utah, believe

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01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 8: it or not. And I was just in sense that

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Speaker 8: we would trade with the with the Chiefs if if

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 8: the Chiefs front office staff are going to I don't know,

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01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 8: the office supply store to get paper clips. We should

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 8: be stealing all the paper clips before they get there.

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Speaker 8: Like everything we could do to get in their way,

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Speaker 8: we should do to get in their way, guys. And

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Speaker 8: I was insensed. So it made me think that maybe

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Speaker 8: maybe Xavier Worthy is a trojan horse. Maybe being thinks

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 8: he's going to go there and be a bus and

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 8: step back and let the Chiefs, you know, take that

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01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 8: trojan horse. And that's what I'm hoping for, right, I mean,

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Speaker 8: that's what we're we're hoping for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Steve and I have talked about so

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01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: it's well known that neither of us were crazy about

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Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy. Now what does that mean? It could mean

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 2: a hill of beans. He might be a great player,

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01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: who knows. But I think it's clear based on the

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 2: two choices by the Bills and Chiefs respectively at the

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01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: receiver position, that they are looking and we're looking for

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01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: two very different things. I understand why the Chiefs want

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Speaker 2: to go to that well again because of how successful

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Speaker 2: they were with Tyreek Hill in their lineup. He was

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Speaker 2: a problem. But I think Tyreek Hill is a bit

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01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: of a Unicorn. I really do. A guy that is

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Speaker 2: about six feet tall but is built like a running

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Speaker 2: back and runs four to two. Xavier Worthy is not

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Speaker 2: the same guy. I think some people might argue that

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Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy might have a more complete game than Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean he's going to be as productive

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01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: as Tyreek Hill. We'll have to see. I mean, he's

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01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: two things very much in his favor. One the best

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01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: offensive play caller in the game, and two the best

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01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: quarterback in the game. So he is certainly primed to succeed.

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Speaker 2: But I think you could probably say that about any

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Speaker 2: receiver going to the Kansas City Chiefs, any receiver.

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Speaker 1: Like Rashi Rice. Last year, they won it all last

1501
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: year with like nobody. Rashi Rice was the number one

1502
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: defense at the end of the year. So offensively, they were,

1503
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, hobbled compared to where they were when Tyreek

1504
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: was in his prime and Justin and Travis Kelsey was

1505
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: in his prime. I mean, good grief, the Chiefs did

1506
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: it like with one hand behind their back. It looked

1507
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: like last year and they still got it done. So

1508
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, I don't know why they

1509
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: you know, you know this this Xavier Worthy. Certainly Andy

1510
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: Reid's got his you know, fingers in that pie. He's thinking,

1511
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: this is what I want from my offense. I'm sick.

1512
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: I want somebody who can fly because it opens up

1513
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: everything for Kelsey, it opens everything up for the the

1514
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: whole thing. I need a guy like that, and that's

1515
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: my guy. Uh. The Bills are sitting over there going, well,

1516
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: he may be a guy that can do that, but

1517
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: he's not. And here's what he may do. He may be,

1518
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: and this is what I think we're gonna see him flash.

1519
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy's gonna flash once in a while in that

1520
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: offense with Pat Mahomes pulling the trigger, He's gonna make

1521
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: a play or two at least. Right, But Bills fans, no,

1522
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been through this with Deontay, Hardy, McKenzie,

1523
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: you name it. Go down the list of the small

1524
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: guys you know that we've had in and out of

1525
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: this lineup for years. They're they're nice, and once in

1526
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: a while they show up and they do something cool,

1527
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 1: but they're not in every down to down, week to

1528
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: week produce, you know, producer. And so my thought was,

1529
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: and Dale from me, I think is our first ever

1530
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: caller from Utah. My thought is this dale never getting

1531
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: the way of your enemy when he's about to make

1532
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: a mistake. And Brownie and I both we don't want

1533
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 1: to know part of Worthy. He's just too light. He's

1534
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: six ' to one, but he's one hundred. He's less

1535
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: than one hundred and seventy pounds. I mean, he's like thin,

1536
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: and it's hard to play at that weight, hard to

1537
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: be consistent at that weight. The game is still even

1538
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: at this point in history when people have said it's

1539
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: kind of softened over the years, Even at this point

1540
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: in history, it's a physical game, and people every play

1541
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: are going to try and push you against your wills,

1542
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs. And I'm just not sold on

1543
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: Worthy of what he can do. He may turn out

1544
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: to be a great I mean, because I'm just like

1545
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 1: everybody else. I speak from my own opinion and my

1546
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 1: own experience, and I just have yet to see somebody

1547
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: do it for a long period. You've seen guys put

1548
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: together a nice year, nice season, but for over long haul,

1549
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: guys who are light aren't successful over long periods of time.

1550
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna be. It's they're gonna be. You know, those

1551
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: guys that are like commets. They're gonna flash for a

1552
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: minute and then disappear, and they come around all too infrequently.

1553
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But I'm not that, and listen, we'll

1554
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: say it again. The Bills are building the team the

1555
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: way they want to build it and getting as much

1556
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: value out of their draft picks, their trade, and they're not.

1557
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: Don't get distracted by what the Chiefs are doing or

1558
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots. You build your team in your in your

1559
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: building the way you want to build it. If the

1560
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: Chiefs didn't want to trade with Buffalo, or if the

1561
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: Bills didn't want to trade with the Chiefs, think about it.

1562
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs could have traded with anybody between where the Bills

1563
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: traded out of to get up there. They could have

1564
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: traded with h who was it, Tampa Bay or any

1565
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: of these other teams that were between twenty eight and

1566
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: whenever the Bills picked, or whenever the Chiefs were gonna pick.

1567
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: So there's no reason to you know, you can't. You're

1568
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: not gonna stop the Chiefs from building their roster the

1569
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: way they want to. You build it the way you

1570
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: want you build your team, and then let's go out

1571
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: and tee it up and see how your team's doing

1572
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: against ours. That's the way you do. You don't. You're

1573
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: not gonna sabotage anybody else. It's not built like that.

1574
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: So that's that's my take.

1575
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's kick it over to the tweet sheet, brought

1576
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

1577
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills. How much pressure is on

1578
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: the Bills defense for twenty twenty four? Darryl says, I

1579
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 2: think there is a lot of pressure for various reasons,

1580
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: the obvious being the veteran losses in Milano's injury. Also,

1581
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 2: even though the narrative is Josh can't beat Mahomes in

1582
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: the playoffs, those losses have been more on the defense

1583
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: than Josh. In my opinion, I would tend to agree.

1584
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 2: Scored thirty six points on the Chiefs in twenty twenty

1585
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: one and lost the game, and you should have scored

1586
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: twenty seven points this year to at least ten high

1587
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: the game, which was the most points the Chiefs had

1588
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: given up in the playoffs, including the Super Bowl and

1589
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: the AFC Title Game. And they had a missfield goal,

1590
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: so they only scored twenty four, So I get it.

1591
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 2: The defense has not performed as well in the postseason

1592
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: as they have in the regular season. The numbers and

1593
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: the points allowed bear that out to some degree. So

1594
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: I get that point from Daryl. I understand it, and

1595
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't think it's wrong. So yeah, Court Jester, you

1596
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: want to add something, No, let's I'm with you. Court

1597
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: Jester says, growing pains with the loss of Hide and Poyer,

1598
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: little more pressure for the d line and linebackers to

1599
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: support the back end of the defense. Nervous and excited

1600
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 2: at the same time to see how well the younger

1601
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: guys perform. Yeah, I mean it is an exciting thing

1602
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: to see some of the younger talent on the roster

1603
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: really get a shot to play and make a differ.

1604
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: And maybe they do and change can be good, But

1605
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: there is also a little trepidation.

1606
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we haven't seen him do it. But I'll

1607
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: say this, We've said it a ton. Brandon Bean has

1608
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: had a knack for drafting guys in deep into the

1609
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: drafts of his years here that have gone on to

1610
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: be really productive for us and other teams. And this year,

1611
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: all these guys have a shot now not only to

1612
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: make the team, but also to contribute in a way

1613
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: that they didn't have a year ago or two years ago,

1614
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: and it is kind of exciting to think about. And

1615
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Terrell Shavers and Justin Shorter to get

1616
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: a chance at this too. I'm watching those guys practice.

1617
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: I watched them go through some drills just yesterday, and

1618
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, they're really really intriguing. I want to

1619
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: see him do this stuff in a game, and if

1620
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: they can stay and stay healthy enough to contribute, because

1621
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: there's something there. They're big bodied wide receivers, bigger people

1622
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: than you know the then you think, and so there's

1623
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to be excited about it. And

1624
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: I've said it too, and I experienced it. Young football

1625
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: players on an NFL team bring an energy and an

1626
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: athleticism that gets sucked out of veteran players over the

1627
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: course of time, and you can tell the difference. You

1628
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: can tell the difference. The game really wears on you

1629
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: the longer you play, and it's noticeable when a set

1630
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: of fresh leg shows.

1631
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Up from Jack. He says, how much pressure on the

1632
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 2: defense a lot. They have a new DC, even though

1633
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: it's McDermott's defense, Babbage will need to prove he can

1634
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 2: handle the game planning for the first time. I think

1635
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: they're okay at linebacker and corner, but defensive end and

1636
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 2: safety have questions. They played great last season, need to

1637
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 2: prove despite losses they can still perform at a high level.

1638
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but that's the

1639
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 2: one thing we haven't touched on about this defense. Who's

1640
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: calling it is also going to be a factor this season.

1641
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: Steve and I will elaborate when we return here on

1642
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1643
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: All right back here on one Bill's Live. And the

1644
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: last tweet we mentioned came from Jack who brought up

1645
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: the very salient point that it's not only about the

1646
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 2: player turnover here, it's about the coordinator change as well.

1647
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,839
Speaker 2: You go from Sean McDermott as head coach and defensive

1648
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 2: coordinator back to head coach in name only. Now he

1649
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 2: could still call the plays on defense, but your new

1650
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 2: coordinator is Bobby Babbage, and he's going to get every

1651
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: opportunity to present to prove that he can call the plays,

1652
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: and if he does, prove himself capable to head coach

1653
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott. Through the course of training camp and the preseason.

1654
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: He's going to be the defensive play caller, which I

1655
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 2: think adds another layer to the pressure that the defense

1656
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: could be facing this season to perform the way they

1657
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 2: have the last several years.

1658
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that would put pressure more on Bob

1659
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: Babbage than it would be anybody else.

1660
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: But it's still an extra layer of pressure side of

1661
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: the ball.

1662
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: It's an extra consideration that you're gonna have to go.

1663
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 1: The whole defense is gonna have to deal with interesting.

1664
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: And I said this before, and I still think this

1665
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: is where they're at. They they have not decided who's

1666
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna call the defensive plays. I think the only thing

1667
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: they've decided is how they're going to decide. I think

1668
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: when they get to training camp, Bob Babbage and Sean

1669
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: McDermott will stand there and at practice they'll get used

1670
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 1: to doing it, and McDermott will ask him and they'll

1671
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 1: talk about what he's calling, why he's calling, and then

1672
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: they'll watch the film of the practice talk about it.

1673
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,919
Speaker 1: Babbage will call the plays in one of the preseason

1674
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: games at least and see how it goes. And that's

1675
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: all you've got to work on. That's it. Because when

1676
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: the regular season goes, somebody's got to be calling those defenses,

1677
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: and Babbage is going to have that long to prove

1678
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: he's the guy. Now McDermott, I'll say this for Bill's fans.

1679
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: McDermott is really good at it. He's really good at it.

1680
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 2: He is one of the best defensive play callers in

1681
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 2: the league.

1682
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: He's really good.

1683
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: After what he did in Week four against the Dolphins,

1684
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: the week after they've hung seventy on Denver and he

1685
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: holds him to twenty, that's right. So it's a fifty

1686
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: point difference in one week.

1687
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: I just think that is it's gonna be hard to

1688
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: get those that headset off of McDermott.

1689
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 2: But well, especially with the turnover to youth, depending on

1690
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: more young people, what can he control. I can control

1691
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: what plays they're running if I'm calling it, and that's

1692
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 2: what coaches like at every level. Control.

1693
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: But still they'll be more effective if Bob Babbage can

1694
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 1: do it well and McDermott can do other things.

1695
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 2: That is true, We'll see he'll get every opportunity to prove.

1696
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: We're going to be eyeing it up.

1697
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 2: Good conversation today, We're back at one tomorrow. We've got

1698
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 2: Jim Naggy, executive director of the Senior Bowl. Bill's had

1699
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 2: five picks that participate in the Senior BA. Will be interesting.

1700
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: M hm m m mm hmm.