1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of My Heart Radio. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland and this is Fitness Disrupted. So 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: this next guest and this show is an interesting one. 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Why don't we say that? On many levels? I know 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: it's something. This methodology, they can absolutely help you, help 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: you look better, feel better, with longer. It's simple. It's 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: tough to explain right away, and especially when it comes 8 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: from someone like my next guest, Sue Hitsman, who it 9 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: makes no sense that I have not yet met her 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: because I have known of her for three decades. We 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: started in the same place, New York City, back in 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: the nineties. We both were running around, you know, to 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: the different clubs, one in particular we'll talk about. And 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: we are so aligned in so many ways, which is 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: probably why I am excited to speak with her. And 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: I agree with just about everything, just about with her 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: whole methodology. It's simple, but it's different. It isn't. It isn't. 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: This is why it's it's everything. I believe in consistency, simplicity, 19 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: connecting to your body, that we need to avoid injury 20 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: and pain, and that the human condition is such that 21 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: we compensate. Talk about that, but we need to move correctly, 22 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: we need to move naturally. And you know, when we 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: talk about these studies as I do, like you know, 24 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: does stretching help, uh? Performance, Does stretching help? Period? Of course? 25 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Our bodies need to move the way they were meant to. 26 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: And Sue Hitsman's Melt method that she has, you know, refined, compiled, 27 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: researched over the years, is just that. And she's someone 28 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: like me who is so passionate about fitness and passionate 29 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: about learning, and she studied to death and then came 30 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: upon this just resonated with her. But it goes back 31 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: to the simple stuff is the most important. In other words, 32 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: it's the flashy stuff and the lose weight quick schemes 33 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: and all that stuff that distracts you from what really matters, 34 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: being pain free, moving efficiently, being able to do what 35 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: you want to do, whether that's your activities of daily living, 36 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: whether that's your recreational sports or competitive sports like really 37 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: high level, and the Melt method addresses all three of 38 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: those groups. So let me give you a quick bio 39 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: on Sue. But she's gonna tell you all you need 40 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: to know, all right. So she is the creator of 41 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: the Melt method and is a nationally recognized educator, manuel therapist, 42 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: exercise physiologists, and founding member of the Fascia Rebody Society. 43 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: Hitsman has appeared on The Doctor Show, Nightline, The Rachel Ratio, 44 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: and Live with Kelly. She lives in New York City. 45 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: What Sue Actually she just moved. Um. What Sue is 46 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: someone who has stood the test of time in this 47 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: really difficult fitness industry. And again, it's incredible that this 48 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: is the first time I believe we will speak. I 49 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of concussions in sports growing up, but 50 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure we've never come across each other, which is 51 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: incredible because again, same amount of time, really long time 52 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: in the industry, so many similarities, uh in where we were. 53 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: But she stood the test of time because it works. 54 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, Yes, you could be really successful in this crazy, 55 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: multi gazillion dollar industry selling garbage. That's most of it 56 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: is most of it, and it comes and goes and 57 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: it keeps coming back. Same diets, a little different with 58 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: exercise routines that's more fatty, you know, that's a d 59 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Those fads, the crazier they are, they tend to go 60 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: around for a while people get hurt, people don't see results. 61 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: But as I will talk with Sue about the simplicity 62 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: of the Melt method, and when I say simplicities, and 63 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: why it's a complex yet not issue. Simplicity is the 64 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: tools you use in the Melt method. It's not fit 65 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: tech century. But it's this accumulated knowledge that Sue has 66 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: in this very specific area that makes it so effective. 67 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: And then add into that Sue obviously being an incredible 68 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: businesswoman who has created one of the greatest businesses careers 69 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: around a specific fitness and exercise modality. Everything you need, inexpensive, 70 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: the privacy of your own home that's gonna make you 71 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: look better, feel better, to live longer. Okay, I'm gonna 72 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: let her explain all about it, though very excited to 73 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: speak finally after over thirty years of reading about her, 74 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: seeing her on TV. And now we're gonna we're gonna talk, 75 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: all right, quick break when we come back, Sue hitsman, 76 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: and we are back. As I said in the intro, 77 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: it makes no sense that this is the first time. 78 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: I think, I think, and she thinks as well. We 79 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: spoke quickly, but yeah, so have we not met? I 80 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't think so, I said, I must have 81 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: been hiding under a rock or something. I don't know. 82 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: How is it even possible, I don't know. So Sue, 83 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: as I said, is someone I have seen in the media, 84 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: have followed in this crazy industry. And so what I 85 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: was talking about is like, you know, this is a 86 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: brutal industry. It's really hard to make a living much 87 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: less you know, a career out of it, and you 88 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: have like thrived. We will talk much more about that. 89 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: But we but we literally, I think, are the same 90 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: age roughly, and we started in the same area and 91 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: we're running. But we never I figured we were like 92 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: one block away, I said in the intro at any 93 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: given time. I think. So, I mean, I just I 94 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: have this feeling like I mean, if we didn't actually meet, 95 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: we just know the same people. Because this industry, far 96 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: as vast and massive as it is, there is a 97 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: contingency of people who have always I think, been pushers 98 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: of the industry of of excellence, in the industry of 99 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: education and the industry. So I think that, uh, you know, 100 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: we're in good company for sure. We're passionate, right, we 101 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: don't have a choice. And let me just I'm gonna 102 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: jump all over the place in my mannic way. But uh, 103 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: as I just said, you know, that's why I love 104 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: this format. I can do that. We both. As I 105 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: was researching you, I knew a lot about you obviously, 106 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: but I didn't know your theater background. We have that 107 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: in common as well. So I started music and acting 108 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: and stand up comedy. I spent a lot of time 109 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: doing comedy in the city with gaff Agin and people 110 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: who were just starting out, and you had that theater 111 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: background as well. To start I did well. Actually, my 112 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: background is more in directing and production. I I actually 113 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: thought I was going to become a casting director, and 114 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: then I did a lot of production. I never wanted 115 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: to be on the stage. I always just had, like, 116 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, the idea. And then I went to n 117 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: y U Film School and matriculated out of the film 118 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: department and into the science department. And here I am. 119 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: And the hilarity is that all of the videos that 120 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: I've done for mel I produced, edit, shoot, like all 121 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: by myself, right, So all of these videos that have 122 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: ever gotten me anywhere, the background of Palman theater and 123 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: production have have clearly come into play, which I think 124 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: is part of why I am where I am still 125 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: because I've been doing it all myself, probably years, you 126 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: and me both. I love that because people don't realize 127 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: that how hard, right, They just see the videos. So 128 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: when they're like, oh, you just spent money, you hired people, 129 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: and first of all, it's like, no, I want to 130 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: save money, especially when we're starting out. Right, my first video, 131 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: Sue you know, did the music, myself, did the credits, myself, 132 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: did everything like you without that you know, background, but 133 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: just the love of it, right, And that's so. And 134 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure to this day you still control as much 135 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: as you can. And you can see that in your 136 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, the whole melt Method empire you've built because 137 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: we love and we want to do all that. Yes, 138 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: and mean, that's it is when you when you have 139 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: something that you want to get out there, and financially 140 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: it's tough, I mean, and in this day and age, 141 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: you really do have to get very cre you have 142 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: and with iPhones and everything, I mean, you know, I 143 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: mean I'm in my sixties. When we first started there, 144 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: we're in on I phones there, you know, you couldn't 145 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: shoot your own things, and now you know, you really 146 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: don't need an editing production company and spending hundreds of 147 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars to which I have earlier on uh, 148 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: and and now it's like, gosh, you I really need 149 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: to do that. Now I can just set up three 150 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: iPhones and do it myself. And so that's what I've 151 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: been doing with Melk for all these years, is just 152 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: trying to get that information out as quickly as possible 153 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: and as diversely as possible. And you do, you have 154 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: to learn how to save money in the places that 155 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: you can, and and film and editing is certainly one 156 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: of the ones that I think I can master with this. Yeah, absolutely, 157 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: uh And it makes you know, it's no surprise to 158 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: me that you're more the behind behind the camera person 159 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: based on just again you know everything you've done. Um, 160 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: but let's go even further back, because further back you 161 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: crunch fitness is one of the gems where I really 162 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, and I know that you have that in 163 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: your background as well. Let's just start crunch. So tell 164 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: people about like your crunch years and and well, yeah, 165 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: I mean I've been in fitness since I'm sixteen. It 166 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: was my first legitimate job when you know, there were 167 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: two kinds of classes you could teach for jazzer's eyes 168 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and I impact aerobics, right, and so you jumping on 169 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: cement all the time. And I got into when I 170 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: moved to New York City at twenty and I was 171 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: going through my master's. I needed to make money, and 172 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: at that time, the best job you could have was 173 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: a group exercise in these small boutique studios. And Crunch 174 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: was one of the newer ones that had come online. 175 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: And I got in with Crunch and just started teaching 176 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: and loved loved teaching so much, and I auditioned for 177 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: the ESPN shows that Crunch had, the Crunch video and 178 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: the TV show, and then I auditioned to do the 179 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: Crunch boot Camp video and I landed that when I 180 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. And Linda Shelton was one of the 181 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: producers with Andrea and Bando, and I had the opportunity 182 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: to produce and direct, in a sense, my own video 183 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: and to construct it and choreograph it with Linda, and 184 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: we made this. It was actually one of the first 185 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: boot camp videos on the market anywhere, and it's sold 186 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: like a million copies around the world, and it was 187 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: such an opportunity for me just to see what production 188 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: was about, right, And the oddity was that, you know, 189 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: a decade later when I shot the my first video, 190 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: the same people who were the production people ended up 191 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: being the guys doing my video. If that's not like 192 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: one of those pirenees or serendipity of life. And they 193 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: were like, why are you that girl that's like a 194 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: one hit wonder of Crunch? And I was like, oh 195 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: my god, did you yes? And They're like, we still 196 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: talked about you today. You nailed every single one of 197 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: your sessions. You you nailed every single piece of that video. 198 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: We were done in two hours and so many Oh, 199 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a really beautiful opportunity to be able to 200 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: do a Crunch video and and just against people production 201 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: about well, and that's I think, I know why you 202 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: know your program is so successful is and we'll talk 203 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: much more about the education and stuff, but it's that 204 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: diverse background that you know, the twenty thirty year overnight success. Right. 205 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: And uh, by the way, did did Andrea make you 206 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: cry the way she made me cry when I did 207 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: my first video with her? Yes? She did, she did. 208 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: Yes for those of you who don't know, And I 209 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: love her, haven't spoken with her in decades, but she 210 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: isn't what well was I think? Right, it's been many, 211 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: many years, but if you got a video done, if 212 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: you were like a playboy playmate, you went to Andrea 213 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: like she just ruled the world of fitness video And 214 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: I remember going out to her house in the Hollywood 215 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: Hills and just yeah, she made me cry. And I 216 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: remember Melissa McNeice. I'm sure yes, Melissa helped me with that. 217 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Get that job was the ABSTE workout video and she said, Tom, 218 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: she's going to make you cry. I said, listen, I 219 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: can work with anyone. She goes, no, trust me, she's 220 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: my best friend and she will tear you down. Uh. 221 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: But you know it's all those experiences right that um made. 222 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: It made us who we are. And that was the 223 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: crazy days of Doug Leavin and entertainment and you know 224 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: when it was just starting out and it wasn't really 225 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I will never forget so that Doug Levin 226 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: saying Crunch is not about fitness, it's about entertainment. And 227 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: I was like, I have kind of have a problem 228 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: with that, right, And I get it. And they were 229 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: always putting that Fireman's work out on or Truly's you know, 230 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: abstise and gossip class and all the crazy people which 231 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: just made it fun. But what I love about you 232 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: is you know you you go to get the education right. 233 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: You say, I gotta go back. I want to study this, 234 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: and you studied it to death. I mean, give us 235 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: a little bit of your crazy just experience with studying. Yeah. Well, 236 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean I started out, like I said it, film 237 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: partner being pulled me over and saying, why are you 238 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: taking anatomy classes with a film class and biology and 239 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: cat you what are you doing? I said, you know, 240 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: I just have a fascination of the human body and 241 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I want to learn more about it. And he said, 242 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: I think you're I think we need to flip your major. 243 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I think the film should be your having and science 244 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: should here major. You're getting all as here and not 245 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: a lot of women are in the science department. I 246 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: think you should be over here. And I just kind 247 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: of got drawn into it. But my masters is an 248 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: exerciy science and physiology. I then got into doing dissections 249 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: and understanding the body in a deeper way, and um, 250 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: during my master as I started learning about neural rescue therapy, 251 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: which was Leon Chike down and dub the lanis work 252 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: of um, you know, really neurologically reintegrating movement patterns for 253 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: people who have gotten injured. Now they're limping, they're not 254 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: recovering properly, and learning about that intrinsic strength that is 255 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: beyond the fitness realm of you know, I'm gonna do 256 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: a bicep girl or a light press to make my 257 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: muscles younger. This was more of that stability of joints. 258 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: And so by the time I got into my late twenties, 259 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I had kind of reached the pinnacle. 260 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: I was working with high performance athletes. Um you know, 261 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: I got I got my land at the French boot 262 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: camp videos and things like that, and so I had 263 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: really bought into this idea that if you ate right 264 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: to be exercised and all the things I knew about 265 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: the human body, this was what was going to lead 266 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: to an active, healthy, pain free life. And then I 267 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: woke up one day on the bottom of my foot 268 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: hurt me and I thought I stepped down a piece 269 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: of glass and I thought, I'm not sure what that is, 270 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: which started as quick patron into this body. Why eight 271 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: all sorts of problems, and I've got doctors saying maybe 272 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: it's lucas. My compartness is m that's by well, Miles 273 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: was like they weren't for what was going on, and 274 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: it geared me out of the business industry trying to 275 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: understand more about the body because the first diagnosis plant 276 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: our fast sits, and that meant our fashion. It was 277 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: in plain fashion. Couldn play fashion across me all of 278 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: this pain that I had, And that's the case, there's 279 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: no exercise with that? What least that? And I hear 280 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: that of fitness and got into the healing arts of 281 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: premial sacle therapy and this real manipulation and just trying 282 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: to understand more about what fasial was and how how 283 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: it related to pain and mobility and stability and the 284 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, in the late nineties, that's where rugle became 285 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: a thing. So fashion was the first word. I typed 286 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: into the Internet and found all of this research on 287 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: connective tissue. And it was really where my shift happened 288 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: was in the light nineties, going from working with type 289 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: performance athletes and then kind of understanding that there was 290 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: more to the psychology even of pain and you know, 291 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: fear when you're an athlete, all of a sudden, like 292 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: the whole career is is kind of weighing the balance 293 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: of your healing that nature. And then of course with 294 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: nine eleven happened in New York, a post your mental 295 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: stress disorder in that pain became a thing for me 296 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: to really make thingqurey on. Truly, it doesn't matter if 297 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: you have a car accident or you know, you have 298 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: the death of someone, pain can ultimately manifest itself for 299 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: you to take action to change. And um you know 300 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: that's been kind of my curiosity of the body. Here. 301 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I became a founding the to the Fashion Research Society 302 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: and there are two thousands. That's how I started to 303 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: develop um as at home self care protocol to treat 304 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: of tissue. Kind of my background of science. Yeah, so 305 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: much there and I love it. I didn't realize, Sue, 306 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: your connection to the psychological, which I just loved when 307 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: I was reading your books and finally getting a you know, 308 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: doing a deeper dive into the melt method and everything, 309 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: because That's what I'm all about too. And I would 310 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: argue anyone who's like us, who spends enough time and 311 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: studies enough says Yeah, it's about the body, but there's 312 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: a huge psychological component to this behavior change. And as 313 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: you're saying, you know, so much of what happens in 314 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: the mind manifest in the body, so it doesn't surprise me. 315 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: But I what I was about you when I was 316 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: kind of thinking about you is you're kind of like 317 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: that doctors who like I have doctor friends who are like, 318 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: g I doctors, and you're like, why did you go 319 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: into with all that? You could have you know, chosen, 320 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: but it just it rang out to you. And I think, 321 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: as you said already, I think that dissection course was 322 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: a big turning point for you or you're like, oh 323 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: my god, like there's something And that's what I love, 324 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: is like you're such a specialist in this unique place. Um, 325 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: and let's talk about you know, you were talking about 326 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: the performance side, but again I think if you're in 327 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: this industry for any amount of time, you go, yeah, 328 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: the athletes, but I need to help real people quote unquote, 329 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: And so you talk about free areas, right, pain, performance 330 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: and lifestyle, so kind of talk about that. As far 331 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: as the Melt method and what we're talking about here, Yeah, 332 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean Melt in general, it's a self care technique 333 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: to help people restore the fluid components of connected tissue 334 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: and whether you have teens, because you are like us, 335 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: you're athletic, right, um, you know anybody who's trained or 336 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: athletic of any sort. You kind of were used to 337 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: the no pain, no gain theory and I had really 338 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: bought into that as well, Like you just push through 339 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: your pain until you can't, and then you start seeking 340 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: out help, which oftentimes just leads you to either taking 341 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: pain medications for surgical procedures because most often is the 342 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: joint problem. So with melt with performance, we're looking at 343 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: trying to help the athlete for you know, whether you're 344 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: an athlete in training or you're just an athlete in 345 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: your mind one where or other. Uh, you know that 346 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: the goal here is to learn to prepare your body 347 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: for athletic performance and restore your body so that you 348 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: can go back and continue to make the gains that 349 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: you want. And that's really I think a process here 350 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: that a lot of athletes kind of are lacking is 351 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: that we just when we're younger, you know, what did 352 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: we do to warm up? I don't know, five minutes 353 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: of jogging around the soccer field, for you play s right, 354 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: that was your warm up right, But as you get older, 355 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: you have to realize that you're warming up is actually 356 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: very inherently critical to joint performance and joint mobility. So 357 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: that's really where melt comes into place to prepare and 358 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: then too our athletes uh to minimize joint imbalances, joint compression, 359 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: and muscle strain. For people who have pain, it's actually 360 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: you know whether your pain is emotional or it's physical 361 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: or structural of any kind. A hundred percent of the 362 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: time your brains was producing your spence of pain. But 363 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: what we do is we try to educate people that 364 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: most often where you have specific pain points area is 365 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: very far away from those areas of your body are 366 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: where the trollmakers are. So to learn to identify where 367 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: this cumulative stress and connect tissues living in your body 368 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: and how your nervous system is adapting to keep you 369 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: as balanced as it can. That's part of the education 370 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: that we bring to people who have pain is to 371 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: vier their mind away from the pain problems so that 372 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: they can get back into active living and for lifestyle 373 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: people who aren't keeper athletic or haven't had an injury 374 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: or an accident or an illness. You're just sitting at 375 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: a desk all day long, and you're noticing that not 376 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: only is your backside looking a little lumpy, but your 377 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: back is killing you. The active father if you you know, 378 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: you suddenly are exhausted all day long. You've got adjusted 379 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: problems and a lot of it. It's just I would say, like, 380 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, sitting as a desk sentence, right, You're just 381 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: sitting yourself to death. So how can we again corporate 382 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of self care from day to day 383 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: to mitigate some of those repetitive postures movements of just 384 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: general everyday living and the source of all of the 385 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: problems really culminates in educating people on what fashion is 386 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: as a global system of stability, and how daily living 387 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: causes an issue and that connected tissue that brings us 388 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: down and postoms to the paying people talk about the 389 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: h and I think, Sue, and I'm sure you'd agree, 390 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: because this is what you're you're talking about in your 391 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: whole method, that we far too often we jump so 392 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: far ahead, right, So in other words, I always say, 393 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: like I'm not as proud of the the events I've 394 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: done or whatever. It's that I'm not in pain, because 395 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: that's that's the first report that the body works well, 396 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: that the body does what I wanted to do when 397 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to do it. And people always like, let's 398 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: talk about iron Man ultra Okay, but none of that 399 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: matters and the performance and the lifestyle and the pain. 400 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: If our bodies aren't moving correctly, we're in trouble, right, 401 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: And as you alluded to, there's two ends to that spectrum. 402 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: There's doing too little, which is most people, and there's 403 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: doing too much or the same repetitive movement, which is 404 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: some people. And everyone will benefit from this melt method, 405 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: the the neurological I mean we need like five hours, 406 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: I always say when I have people on like you 407 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: so um, but just getting the body to work correctly, right, 408 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: And and you know the confusion people have about flexibility. 409 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: If your body doesn't move correctly, you're gonna have problems. Well, 410 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: and I guess the question it's like what is correct movement? Right, 411 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: just like when we talk about corrective exercise, like we 412 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, the thing about movement is we don't think 413 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: about move we don't think about stability, we don't think 414 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: about move We just get up and get the thing 415 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: that we want to get and when we want to 416 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: get it, you know, and so we don't think about 417 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: how we're doing things and how joints ideally move in 418 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: their ideal range. And so what a lot of people 419 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: get is what I call segmentally hyper flexible, right, so 420 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: around particular areas of their body, they're super recusing where 421 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: you don't want to be like a range of joints. 422 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: But then you have muscle abilities that are really a 423 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: lot short consent strain and tendance near joints, and so 424 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: you're just increasing your chances of pain. So you know, again, 425 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: only living alters fashion, which is is a matrix of 426 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: collagen or around the body. And look, even if anybody 427 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: listening doesn't have pain, if you've ever sat for long 428 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: periods of time, get up and feel like you age twenty, 429 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: is because you're trying to don't work as well when 430 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: you get up as a didn you sat down. You're 431 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: feeling the effects of the fluid flow, the food profusion 432 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: adaptations that occur in this connectifition matrix. And what it 433 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: reeks havoc on is our joints. And if you think 434 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: of the fluids and fashion like a river daily living 435 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: is kind of laying certainly down to that river's flowing 436 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: where that sediment really loves to accumulate. This around your 437 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: joint where fashion is most abundant, and it loses its 438 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: bit to elastic properties, ability to move and adapt this 439 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: move and what they want to, you know, move efficiently. 440 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't talk about correct and I would think 441 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: about efficient right that oftentimes we're not moving efficiently. We're 442 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: just pushing ourselves to run that extra mile. Our bodies 443 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: are hurting and we're just going anyway. Or you take 444 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: the opposite round. Gosh, I stand up in my back hurts, 445 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: need What do I do? I sit back down and again, 446 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: which is why you have back in in the first place. 447 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: So it's the vicious cycle that again comes down to 448 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: the psychology that people don't really talk about. Is the 449 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: desire to be better, the desire to be loved, be wanted, 450 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: to be healthy. Right, we want we want these things 451 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: in our life. If you ask anybody, do you want 452 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: to leave an active, healthy, painprey life for as long 453 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: as possible? If anybody says, now, I'm good with the crampy, 454 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: not so great short life, I don't think anybody's gonna 455 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: say that, now, you know, why wouldn't we all want 456 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: to live as long as we can as helpful as 457 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: we can, So that that is about efficiency, not about correct. 458 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: It's it's really an efficient state of being, and a 459 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: lot of us are functioning inefficiently because we're unstable. Can't 460 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: be efficiently efficiently stable. And I'm gonna say it again, 461 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: fashion is the stability system of the body. So if 462 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: you want to learn how to maintain efficiency and stability, 463 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: you gotta learn a little bit about the automomic processes 464 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: of the nervous system and have the nervous system of 465 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: death to daily living and how fashion you can actually 466 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: side yourself to death. You know, lots of people eat 467 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: right and exercise still chronic pain. So sort of the 468 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: journeys on the secret of our industry that most people 469 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: can really change harder and paint. And I love that 470 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: you have to take issue with the word correct, because 471 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: that's really important, right that we use words that people 472 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: understand in the way that they need to understand them. 473 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: When I say it, it's it's it's natural, as you're 474 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: alluding to, we need to work in our natural range 475 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: of motion. But what I also love that you alluded 476 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: to that I don't I know, people don't really realize, Sue, 477 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: because it's human nature. The problem is what you alluded 478 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: to about compensatory issues, right, So in other words, you say, well, 479 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: people don't have pain most people, Right, they'll get a 480 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: pain in their leg or let's say shoulder, right, And 481 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: what they do they start putting on their shirt differently. 482 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: They change everything about what they do without really realizing it. 483 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: And then what happens, The shoulder feels better and it 484 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: goes to wear right. So just talk about that and 485 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: and this is a real problem. You know, we adapted 486 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: to avoid this pain and that was protective, but in 487 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: the common, everyday world that can be a huge problem. Huge. Well, 488 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: and what you're this is really big where you're saying time, 489 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: because that's that's what happens is our nervous system is 490 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: designed to adapt to keep us functioning as efficiently as possible. 491 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: And I kind of always kind of make an analogy 492 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: of like, if you live in a suburban, you've gotta 493 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: get downtown. And let's say you're and you've got to 494 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: get down at the fluor five brilli in the morning 495 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. You you don't take the highway because 496 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be congestion on the highway. So 497 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: how do you get downtown. You learn to take side 498 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: streets to get you where you want to go, and 499 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: although it's not the most efficient round, it's gonna get 500 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: you where you want to go in relatively the same 501 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: amount of time. The problem is on the weekend, somebody 502 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: invites you downtown and by habit you take the side 503 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: streets instead of going on the highway. And that's kind 504 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: of how the nervous system works. If there are these 505 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: directoral pathways movement that are ideal in a normal range 506 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: of joy, it's an ideal range of joints. These are 507 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: neural patterns that we adapted when we were a baby 508 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: from zero to two. And then we just like how 509 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: you say we practice and pete movements to get better 510 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: at sport. We are habitually doing the same movements and patterns, 511 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: and so your brain anticipates how you want to move 512 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: when you go remove, but it's not saying that it's 513 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: doing it in an ideal, more efficient way anymore. And 514 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: if your nervous system adapts enough times to a compensatory pattern, 515 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: as far as your brain is concerned, that's the dominant pathway, 516 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: that's the ideal way to move. But time over tension. 517 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Just like how you say, hey, my shoulder birds day, 518 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna start putting my shirt down differently, I'm 519 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna avoid moving my arm this way. Well you know, 520 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you're it's a slippery spoke because now the 521 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: function of you was adapting in other areas of your body. 522 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: So maybe six months down the road, your shoulder might 523 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: feel better, but you're opposite me and hips start hurting you, 524 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: and you're not realizing that it's because of the compensation 525 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: that your body has adopted while you were healing one 526 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: problem and now you're making other problems where else. So again, 527 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: what I think what melt is an interruption and those 528 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: compensatory patterns to get you to identify where can you 529 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: live stress as living in your body, how your body 530 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: is adapting in compensatory ways, and then treating the body 531 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: so that it down regulates and it repairs self. Right. 532 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Body is designed to prepare, increase some stress, roost the 533 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: body's natural repair processes, and get your background those highways 534 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: so that now your nervous system is regaining those proper 535 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: sensory motor pathways that move you and your joints in 536 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: an efficient way. And that is again, you're not going 537 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: to get that by exercise and by just lifting weights. 538 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: You're most often what people do when they have compensation 539 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: and they weight train is they become a stronger, more 540 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: dysfunctional body. They actually get better at managing their dysfunctions 541 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: without and and and again, once you get into your fifties, 542 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: that's does not work. And that's why so many people 543 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: who engaged in bitness when they were younger finally their 544 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: joints start breaking down. I love that analogy. That's gonna 545 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: help so many people. The traffic and and you know, 546 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: if that doesn't paint the perfect visual for people, I 547 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know what will. And you know, it's the muscles 548 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: firing correctly in the right sequence that you're alluding to 549 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: as well. Um, and people don't realize that. And I 550 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: would say so that you know, I am in my 551 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: fifties too. I think we're probably really close in age, 552 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: and you know, my friends are dropping like flies, and 553 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: guys and women much younger than I. Right, And one 554 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: of the problems is what you just said in that 555 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: you know we can, we compensate our bodies moved differently, 556 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: and then we go to do things like play basketball, 557 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: play doubles, tennis, and we ask our bodies to take 558 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: that route that we've been avoiding because we have to 559 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: do it quickly, right, and that's when the achilles goes, 560 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: the hamstring goes, and now we've got place. Yeah, Like 561 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: if your body has been sitting for long periods and 562 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: you get really good at siday, but then you know, 563 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: you decide, Hey, at the end of the day, I'm gonna, 564 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, go for a run. Your body's like, whoa, whoa, what? 565 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: What's this running thing that you wanted to do? Because like, 566 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: you can't just do that every once in a while 567 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: because I'm only really good at sitting. And as as 568 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: you sit for long periods of time, certain muscles getting pivoted, 569 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: some muscles get much short and luck long. But centrally 570 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: motor wise, again, you're not gonna not move right you 571 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: You just your body is gonna again get around these 572 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: roadblocks to get you to where you want to go, 573 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: to move you how it thinks you want to move 574 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: relative to what you're you know, what you're asking your 575 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: body to do. But yeah, you gonna go play pickleball. 576 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: It's not a smaller court. I'm not gonna have to 577 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: run as much. But still you can tork your knee 578 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: because again, the resilience of the connective tissue is stiff, 579 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: it's dehydrated, it doesn't it doesn't have its elastic property 580 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: to stabilize those joints, and it's just these quick movements 581 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: that we then ask our body to do. It really is, 582 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, a road to disaster for a lot of people, 583 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: which I think it's very frustrating, and any athlete knows 584 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: one of the worst things that athletes can do is 585 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: get injured, because then there's this repair time, and that's 586 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: frustrating in the presence, you can't move and you're gonna 587 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: take weight, and there's all this internal drama going on 588 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: if that person loves me anymore and my ground and 589 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: and then it becomes a thing of like, well, what 590 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: if this goes on forever, We'll forget it. I'm just 591 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna run anyway, right, And so I think oftentimes the 592 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: messages our bodies are giving us, our bodies are just 593 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: gagging for our help, streaming our hate, help me, and 594 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: instead we're ignoring we're disregarding who we're popping a pill 595 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: to quiet it down. I always say to people, you know, 596 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: if you think of pain in your body like kid 597 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: crying out for your health, you wouldn't run up to 598 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: a kid who was crying out for your health and 599 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: punch space, right or ignore them for lock them in 600 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: the room. Right. You would get at their level and 601 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: you would calm them down. You would take information, and 602 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: you would figure out what the problem was, and then 603 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: you would take action to solution. But when our bodies 604 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: are streaming up our health, we ignore, we try to 605 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: tone it down with medications, or we just pushed through it, 606 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: which is a winning ticket to dysfunction. Right. I mean, like, 607 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do, more of the 608 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: body's signals and not really listen to what your body 609 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: is asking. Is just a little bit of time and 610 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of focus and really giving yourself permission 611 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: to go back into your body and sense what you 612 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: feel and care for yourself is an invitation that a 613 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: lot of people have never really considered that, Especially in fitness, 614 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: most people are very outside of their bodies. They're looking 615 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: at themselves in a mirror. They're worried about what other 616 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: people perceive of them. And they're not doing things because 617 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: they love themselves. They're doing things in fitness because they 618 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: want to change for the don't like about And I 619 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: always encourage people to exercise because you love yourself, because 620 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: you want to improve the assets that you have and 621 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: the quality of who you are. That's why she'd movement, 622 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: doing exercises or whatever it is you love to do, 623 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: um and and pain again as that motivator for me 624 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: to get back into your body. To love yourself. It's 625 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: about being happy, as you're saying, and that's so important. 626 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: And I love that we're almost like a half hour 627 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: in and this is the first we've really brought up exercise. 628 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: We've we've talked about movement, movement, movement, because that's what 629 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: it's about. Right. Yes, we can call it what you want, 630 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: but you know negative connotation. And I say, just as 631 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: you did, Sue, no one hates exercise. You haven't figured 632 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: out what you enjoy doing yet, right, and or you're 633 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: doing it for the wrong reasons as you just outlined. 634 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: It's fun. And if I told you you couldn't do 635 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: what you love, I know, Sue that you would be 636 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: really angry with me. If I said no, you know, 637 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: the walk you go on, or the wim you do, 638 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: or the you know whatever class, you would be angry. 639 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: And everyone has the capacity to get to that point, 640 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: every single person, right. What I also love, though, I 641 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: gotta backtrack a little bit so much here you talked 642 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: about like you know, injury and back to like you know, 643 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: I've lectured on does strength training improve running performance? The 644 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: first slide I show is the band yes, right, It's 645 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: just yes, of course, But the primary reason is that 646 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: it allows you to keep training right to prevent injury. 647 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: So we can go into the pliometric thing and running 648 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: efficiency and things like that. But as you said, if 649 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: we are injured, if we don't feel good, if we 650 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: don't you know, want to move more, that nothing else 651 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: matters at that point, right, So we we have to 652 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: start there. And what I love about the Melt method 653 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: is it's not this incredible crazy fitness tech. I have 654 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: everything known demand, Sue, as I'm sure you do as 655 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: well when it comes to fitness tech. We're given all 656 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: this stuff frequently, but at the end of the day, 657 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a ball, and it's it's it's 658 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: it's simple it's a simple stuff. So talk about as 659 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: we kind of wrap this up, how do people We'll 660 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: just talk about the melt method, how people would get started, 661 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: and what it entails. Yeah, so you know we I 662 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: actually have been doing this a long time now, right 663 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: that this is the twenty year in the making. It 664 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: started at his homework for my clients to get out 665 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: of my office and get back into access living. And 666 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: I developed these soft balls and soft rulers to teach 667 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: people how to use compression or tensions into their bodies 668 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: because that's the fashion, is the tension compression management system 669 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: to apply self touch just like manual therapy onto their 670 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: bodies so that they can eliminate some of that teams 671 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: to stress. So I have a stranging platform called Meltdown Demand. 672 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: I put out a new video every week, just I said, 673 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: in the categories of pain, performance or lifestyle. So you know, 674 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: there's a prep map for golf, there's a restorative map 675 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: for runners, there's maps for low back pain. There's maps 676 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: for you said at your desk all day long, right, so, uh, 677 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: just a self care treatment for basically everything. And there's 678 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: all sorts of different techniques that you can do with 679 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: melt it's quite a robust platform. You know. I have 680 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: five levels of instructor training. We've got two best instructors worldwide. 681 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: We also teach online and the life classes around the world. Um. 682 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, I have a website and MELT Methods so 683 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: people can go and find out about the method itself 684 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: and beyond the product. It really is a method sharing 685 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: with people how to become more aware of the accumulative 686 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: stress in the fascial system, which is the stability system 687 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: of the body. Your nervous in your stability and your 688 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: fascial system will stabilize you. So MELT is this very gentle, 689 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: subtle body approach. Um. I think it's interesting in athletics, 690 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: like people go after their bodies and their recovery just 691 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: as hard as they do their exercise routines. They're smashing 692 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: their fashion, they're rolling and ironing themselves and the flipping pain, 693 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: And I don't get it, Like, why does your recovery 694 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: for access need to be as hard and pushing as 695 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: your training. Doesn't make any sense. But just chill out 696 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: for a second and in quiet your nervous system death. 697 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: Don't pause pain to get out of pain. Learn how 698 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: to be more just gentle and mindful with your body 699 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: because fashion is a system that is in a constant 700 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: state of change in adaptation. So if you know how 701 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: to addapt and really make major changes in your body, 702 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: and very short period of times, people are looking for 703 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: self care tools and easy ways to really transform their body. 704 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: I think maltime demand has got to be about the 705 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: easiest reseversion down with the app um it's just treating 706 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: platforms and and again the product is inexpensive. They work. 707 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: The whole methodology works. It is profound. If you try it, 708 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: what you'll find is from the point when you assess 709 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: and you do a treatment and you reassess, you are 710 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: going to sense change in your body. And that's the 711 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: first step getting out of pain, getting your body to 712 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: adapt in a positive way. And I love that you said, 713 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: because I'm totally with you. I don't treat pain with 714 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: pain personally, right, I don't. If it's something really hurts, 715 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: I get it. And there are people that love the 716 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: deep tissue and to each their own. And if it 717 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: works for you, we could argue about it, but but fine, 718 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: But that's what that's what I love about your system. 719 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: It's simplicity done consistently right, it's excessive moderation. It's not. 720 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: You don't have to run a marathon. You don't have 721 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: to do an iron Man, you don't have to do 722 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: a burbe. You got to get in touch with your body. 723 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: And so many people our age too, and and younger 724 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: with issues everything about our current lifestyle. I just interviewed 725 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Michael Easter. I don't if you met him, you know, 726 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: the comfort crisis just amazing people. We talk about how 727 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: everything in our everyday life is just not good for 728 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: our bodies and our minds. And when you start with 729 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: something like MELT, that's doable. I would argue you have 730 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: the greatest resources of any program I've ever seen when 731 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: it comes to the videos and the books, and you 732 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: just really do so. Congrats, Um. I know, decades in 733 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: the making what you can do it at home, COVID 734 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: has taught us what that you can do great things 735 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: at home. You don't have to spend a lot of money. 736 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be an it shouldn't be an hour, 737 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: especially at the start. Right it's and and that's what 738 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: I will kind of wrap it up with that too. 739 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: I would say take justin only out of your vocabulary. 740 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: It's not I only did ten minutes of you know, 741 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: the MELT method today. It's that you did it and 742 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: that you're going to do it again, and it's not 743 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: a matter of if, but how much it will work 744 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: for you. That's right. I mean, if you just even 745 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: start out with ten minutes a day, aren't any just 746 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: submit to tenants a day to doing something for yourself 747 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: that is restored, whether that's sitting in meditation, or doing 748 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: the melts for treatment or rebellance sequence, or just going 749 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: for a lot. Just start with saying, for ten minutes 750 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: every day, I'm going to get up to do something 751 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: that is going to replenish the love of myself, within myself, 752 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: whatever that is. That's how you start. You don't need 753 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: to start with an hour workout or anything like that. 754 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: To start with ten minutes a day and build yourself 755 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: up and you'll find that, especially with MELT, you're gonna 756 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: love how it feels, and so you're gonna want to 757 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: do those thirty fourty minute sessions that we also have 758 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: on the platform. But you know, we have five to 759 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: ten minute treatments, we've got one hour treatments. It just 760 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: depends upon what you're working with and what you're looking 761 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: to revolve and you know and how much time you have, 762 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: but I'm always just looking for saving people time on 763 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: the in effort to feel good. And if you can 764 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: do something that's simple, easy and effective, that's what you 765 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: should do. And that's about and it's a gateway drug. 766 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: As you said, you know you're gonna gonna do five. Yeah. 767 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: Uh so, thank you so much, so great to after 768 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: thirty years. Probably you're absolutely let me say, we're at 769 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: the holidays. Uh, this is a gift you'd not only 770 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 1: give yourself but give people you love. The books and 771 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: and the products and the programs. This is the kind 772 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: of thing I know that people it will transform your 773 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: life if you go. That sounds so crazy and it's 774 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: rare that I say that, but I know that when 775 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: people who haven't moved suddenly start moving and move better, 776 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: like you know, life changing, it's life changing. And I 777 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: find I've said at three times now, but we're gonna 778 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: end with this. We didn't talk about weight loss, we 779 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: didn't talk really about hard exercise. It's about movement, about 780 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: being happy about being paid free, and then you can 781 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: do all that other stuff that's gonna happen after because 782 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: you're even go I feel better. I want to get 783 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: off the couch. I want to go play pickle ball 784 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: or whatever. UM start here and guess what, When you 785 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: do the Melt method and people see you get the results, 786 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: that's the greatest gift. I mean, I know, Sue that 787 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: you probably am like me, and that we have the 788 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: greatest jobs in the world. We help people live better lives. 789 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: It sounds so cliche, but it's true. That's what we did. 790 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: That's I mean, and I'm I'm very grateful, privileged, and 791 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: truly honored that so many people have, you know, allowed 792 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: me into their lives to work with them to transform 793 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: their lives, and it's transformed being. I feel like I've 794 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: learned so much from every single client, so to work 795 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: on you know, hundreds of thousands of people worldwide poltics. 796 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: It really is an incredible gift. And I just know 797 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: that if people are suffering, you can help yourself feel better, 798 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: and that really self care is the best health care 799 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: that you have. And so giving that gifts to other 800 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: people also gives you an accountability partner. You know, if 801 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: you really struggle with pain, having somebody that you know 802 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: you can work with, I think is a really important 803 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: you know that you don't feel like you by yourself 804 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: in your novel them that you know there's a community 805 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: out there, and you know again I'm on Facebook, I'm 806 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram and lay Lansince come down so YouTube there's 807 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: free videos there as well, So there's you know, no 808 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: excuse um. If you love yourself and you feel like 809 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: you want to live an abundant life, then today's your 810 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: data to get to us. Couldn't end it any better, Sue, 811 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: It's been Thank you so much, have a happy holiday season, 812 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: and I hope to speak with you again soon. Thanks 813 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: thanks to and we will be right back after this 814 00:43:52,800 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: quick break and we are back. I'm waiting to get 815 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm surprised I have not received yet a message from 816 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: any of you saying stop saying you wish you had 817 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: more time with these guests. But I do. I do 818 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: because when I get to speak with people who I 819 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: know can make me better and by definition, make you better. 820 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: When we speak here on this podcast, I want to 821 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: get as much out of them while I have them, 822 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: And the best ones are really busy, the best ones 823 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: are hard to get and as I said in the intro, 824 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: this is the perfect example of complex yet simple. Sue 825 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: has done the work, decades of research into this crazy 826 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: area that I just love how it's just she loves it, 827 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: this very specific world of fasha. But if we're understanding 828 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: improving how our bodies and our minds work, you need 829 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: to know you need to understand the joints in the 830 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: fasha and all that's pun intended connected. But as we discussed, 831 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: it comes back to the simple. If you're hurt, if 832 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: your body is not moving, uh, correctly. And I love 833 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: that she corrected me. That was like, you know, the 834 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: words we choose are important to us in this industry, 835 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: and correctly is confusing to some people. And and I 836 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: meant and I you know, said naturally. And that's what 837 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, because what's natural for one person isn't the 838 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: same for another. And that's why I've talked about, you know, 839 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: running coaches. We all have different biomechanics. We all have 840 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: different ways of doing things based on our body specific 841 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: personal attributes and leg length, you know differences, and and 842 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: femur length and so many different things. The way our 843 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: joints are situated, there are subtle differences. But it's gotta 844 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: be natural, and it's got to be pain free. And 845 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: so when you connect with your body by doing things 846 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: like the Melt method, and this is the best of 847 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: the best that I know of, and there's this is 848 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: what I do. In other words, we didn't get into 849 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: like what we could compare this too. And I did 850 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: that for a reason. And that's why you gotta go 851 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: to the Melt method dot com start poking around. But 852 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: this is something that you should add to your home gym. 853 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: The roller, the balls takes up no space, portable, Everyone 854 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: can use it and it works. And I'll leave you 855 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: with that because those are always the criteria that I 856 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: am looking for for myself and for you and for 857 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 1: my family. Simple, doable, effective, not gonna hurt me, gonna 858 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: make me better, like a push up or a squat 859 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: or a launge. Everyone can do it anywhere, anytime. You 860 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: can modify it for your goals, for your fitness level. 861 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: And the same thing holds true about the Melt Method. 862 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: No complicated app not tracking something that you probably don't 863 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: understand or the value of which can be debated. It's 864 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: about getting your body to move better and connecting to 865 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: your body. You know, we talked quickly about those type 866 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: of injuries where you're asking your body to move quickly 867 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: in those sports, or or when you know you trip, 868 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: when your body doesn't fire, your muscles don't fire in 869 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: the right sequence in the right way. You get hurt, 870 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: you pull something, you fall, you don't fall as you 871 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: can fall efficiently. People, I do it all the time. 872 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: I did it during the Ultra Marathon recently. But check 873 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: it out added to your repertoire. We need strength, we 874 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: need cardio, we need body composition, the components of exercise. 875 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: I'm going to lump this under flexibility just because that's 876 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: where it fits neatly. But it's more than that. But 877 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: let's put it there. Do your strength to your cardio. 878 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: You need to be flexible and connected, and that's where 879 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: the Melt method comes in. So there you go. All 880 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: right again, Thank you to Sue Hitsman. I'm sure I 881 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: will now be seeing and talking with her much more 882 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: frequently and for a good reason. All right again, If 883 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: you want to reach out to hit Instagram, Tom h Fit, Twitter, 884 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: Fitness Disrupted dot com, you can go there. Questions comments 885 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: my most recent book, The Micro Workout Plan. Hey there's 886 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: a great shameless plug Melt method book. Maybe a foam 887 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: roller micro Workout Plan. That's the gift that keeps on giving, 888 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: gifts that keep on giving. All right, but yes, my 889 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: most recent book is The micro Workout Plan. And thank 890 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,720 Speaker 1: you for listening, and I hope you enjoyed. Sue. She can, 891 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: with her valuable decades of expertise, really really make a 892 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: difference in your life. And that's my goal is to 893 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: bring you those people. All right, I am Tom Holland 894 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: this is Fitness Disrupted. Believe in Yourself. Fitness Disrupted is 895 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from 896 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: my heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 897 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.