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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final hour on this Monday, as we always
Speaker 1: do every Monday, Best and Worst.
Speaker 2: Of the weekend. What you saw that you liked you
Speaker 2: didn't like? New poll question for the final hour. Still
Speaker 2: waiting to find out exactly what Danny Hurley is going
Speaker 2: to do? Should I stay or should I go? Eight
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Speaker 2: Woods is going to be in the US Open, of course.
Speaker 2: The person to beat a Scotty Scheffler, who won his
Speaker 2: fifth event of the season. Now the knock on Scotti
Speaker 2: Scheffler prior to this weekend is he normally wins his
Speaker 2: tournaments January, February, March, in April, that he doesn't do
Speaker 2: well later on in the season, but he ended up
Speaker 2: winning the Memorial. You got the US Open. It'll be
Speaker 2: on NBC and Peacock coming up this Thursday. All right, Seaton.
Speaker 2: Poll question for the final hour, We.
Speaker 3: Just got a new one here from Paulie. If you're
Speaker 3: an LA sports fan, you could have one of these
Speaker 3: things happen. Think of it like a wish granted. Okay,
Speaker 3: Lakers get Dan Hurley, Otani never has elbow issues again,
Speaker 3: it's a good one. Paul has, Jim Harbaugh wins a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with the Chargers. I feel like there's probably
Speaker 3: needs to be a USC option in here, because we
Speaker 3: are talking about Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: USC gets their national title back from the Reggie Bush era.
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush says they're getting the title back. That would
Speaker 2: be good, That would go a long way and creating
Speaker 2: a little more harmony between those two.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like USC fans are probably like, nah, I
Speaker 2: lived it. I know we won that. I don't care
Speaker 2: what those dumb record books say, those past lived, the
Speaker 2: pesky record books, whatever. Well, Otani has elbow issues and
Speaker 2: he's still hitting home runs. He does it. And if
Speaker 2: he doesn't pitch, I don't know if Dodger faith as
Speaker 2: long as the pitching staff is good and you don't
Speaker 2: need O'tani and I'm fine with that. I mean, would
Speaker 2: I'd like to have gotten a little bit more of
Speaker 2: a bargain than seven hundred million dollars for a guy
Speaker 2: who's not pitching. Knowing what the Lakers mean, to Los
Speaker 2: Angeles getting Dan Hurley if that turns out to be
Speaker 2: the right choice for them. I mean, we're looking at
Speaker 2: this saying is he going to go or not? Then
Speaker 2: we're going to start to look at this and go, okay,
Speaker 2: does this make sense? Is this the right move? And
Speaker 2: there are a lot of former players saying don't do it.
Speaker 2: But you know, I applaud the Lakers for giving this
Speaker 2: thought and to go, okay, now we're going to pay.
Speaker 2: They went from underpaying to maybe overpaying now because that's
Speaker 2: what it's going to take to get Dan Hurley. He's
Speaker 2: supposed to meet with his team, and maybe he's meeting
Speaker 2: with them now. They have practice reportedly coming up in
Speaker 2: about an hour from now. I'm guessing that they're going
Speaker 2: to know and then will know what he's going to do.
Speaker 2: Throughout the history of the NBA Finals, there have been
Speaker 2: five teams who have come back from an O two
Speaker 2: series deficit. The Mavericks. If they're going to make it
Speaker 2: number six, they got some work to do. Kyrie Irving,
Speaker 2: who's no stranger to playing in the finals, looks like
Speaker 2: it's strange for him to play in the finals. He
Speaker 2: has not played well, averaging fourteen points, four assists, held
Speaker 2: scoreless from three point range zero for eight in the
Speaker 2: first two games. That type of performance, it just Mavericks
Speaker 2: have no they they're not going to win because Luca
Speaker 2: is not one hundred percent. Still he gave you a
Speaker 2: triple double last night, but you're you're going against the
Speaker 2: team that has a balanced scoring attack, that you have three, four,
Speaker 2: maybe five guys who could be the leading scorer depending
Speaker 2: on the evening. But you got Luca playing forty two
Speaker 2: minutes and playing through injuries. I know you kept it.
Speaker 2: I don't think the game was as close as the
Speaker 2: score would indicate. You know, they end up winning that one,
Speaker 2: and you had five players who were you know, scoring
Speaker 2: and able to take over for Jason. Jason Tatum didn't
Speaker 2: play well last night, didn't shoot well. They haven't needed
Speaker 2: it yet, Dallas needed. Dallas had an opportunity to take
Speaker 2: one of these two games, and I thought they were
Speaker 2: going to I still think Boston is going to win
Speaker 2: the title. But then going back and now maybe you
Speaker 2: have a chance, a little bit more of a chance.
Speaker 2: And what I saw last night was pretty much just
Speaker 2: Boston being Boston. You know, good offensive team, good defensive team,
Speaker 2: I like how people are looking at this Boston team
Speaker 2: and they're already ready to put their place in history.
Speaker 2: Like how great this team is. They've had a lot
Speaker 2: of success. I can't put you in there. Man, they're
Speaker 2: one of the great teams. If you're winning one title.
Speaker 2: You know, the Atlanta Braves were a great group of talent,
Speaker 2: but they only won one World Series when they had,
Speaker 2: you know, the greatest pitching staff in modern era, and
Speaker 2: you had you know, some you know, had a great
Speaker 2: lineup and Hall of famers. There is that a great team,
Speaker 2: the potential for being great because you got to win.
Speaker 2: And if Boston wins the title, finally, Okay, now we
Speaker 2: can at least move on with Oh maybe they repeat.
Speaker 2: It won't be man, they can't win the big one,
Speaker 2: but what I saw last night, I expect them to win.
Speaker 2: I think Dallas is going to get at least one win,
Speaker 2: maybe two wins out of this. All right, we'll get
Speaker 2: phone calls coming up. Jim Jackson, one of our favorites
Speaker 2: Fox Sports and Turner Sports analyst. He'll join us coming
Speaker 2: up as well. Rocketman in Ohio. Hey, Rocketman, Hey, sir,
Speaker 2: how are you doing good?
Speaker 5: Sir?
Speaker 6: I just got done broadcasting in Akron. I got my
Speaker 6: best and worst of the weekend. High school baseball for
Speaker 6: Recovery India in Division four made their first trip to
Speaker 6: the state finals since nineteen fifty three. They started out
Speaker 6: the season five and ten. They end up losing to
Speaker 6: Berlin Island and the finals three to two. So shout
Speaker 6: out to the Fort Recovery Indians. That's my best and worst.
Speaker 6: And my theory is with Dan Hurley, He's going to
Speaker 6: show up to day in his Connecticut year and he's
Speaker 6: going to a backpack full of La Lakers swag dand out,
Speaker 6: and he is going to go to the Lakers and
Speaker 6: probably coach the Lakers this season the way he wants
Speaker 6: to coach, and next year clean house and build his team.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you rocket Man. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: how long Lebron's going to be there and is you
Speaker 2: know what's the future with ad Because if you're going
Speaker 2: to turn it over to Dan Hurley, he's going to
Speaker 2: want to get players who can play his style of basketball.
Speaker 2: Aaron in Ohio, Hi, Aeron, what's on your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 6: DP, Hope you and the gang are doing well. Six
Speaker 6: foot two, two hundred and sixty five because it was
Speaker 6: a good weekend. I want what they have.
Speaker 2: Got a bad connection there, Aaron, Uh, I know Mickey
Speaker 2: in Chicago, Hey Mickey.
Speaker 7: Hey Dan.
Speaker 4: I haven't call it in a long time, been about
Speaker 4: quite a few years. The last time I called it,
Speaker 4: and I told Seaton to stay north when he's had
Speaker 4: his kid. So one thing about the camle Clark, I
Speaker 4: don't know. I drive me in saying that the women
Speaker 4: are trying to grow the game, but they don't want
Speaker 4: to grow the game because on the marketing aspect of this,
Speaker 4: it's be massive. I mean, just right now, how many
Speaker 4: seas she's putting it? You know, how many seats are
Speaker 4: getting filled up with her just playing in games because
Speaker 4: I go to these games. I watched every games for
Speaker 4: for a long time, the w NA because because of
Speaker 4: my daughter and stuff. So but like she's like the
Speaker 4: fourth fourth largest cells or leading cells and Jersey Cells.
Speaker 4: I mean just imagine her going to this just be
Speaker 4: massive for the for you to say basketball, I just
Speaker 4: don't understand how how they can do this and if
Speaker 4: they ask her now, because I mean because Chelsea Great
Speaker 4: hasn't played the game all this year, Britdy Grinder just
Speaker 4: started playing last night pretty much. I mean, and then Google,
Speaker 4: of all, it should be on it should be on
Speaker 4: the team by far over Chelsea great. But if they
Speaker 4: if they want to grow the game, that I mean,
Speaker 4: they got to have her on it. But if but
Speaker 4: if they asked her now, I for her, I would
Speaker 4: just say, hey, there's other women that deserve this more
Speaker 4: than I do.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I don't know if it's you know,
Speaker 2: they they bring her in as an alternate, and then
Speaker 2: I don't think she can decline it. That that might
Speaker 2: look bad that you don't want to play for Team USA,
Speaker 2: and it might sound petty. Uh, that wouldn't be good
Speaker 2: for her brand. And she's been really really good at
Speaker 2: cultivating this brand. But you know, I'm just looking at
Speaker 2: the committee. If the committee has blinders on, it says
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna take player A and B and
Speaker 2: C and D. You're not going, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: how popular is that that player? I think if you're
Speaker 2: going to factor that in, then tell me you're factoring
Speaker 2: it in, or you're not going to factor that in,
Speaker 2: then tell me I'm fine with it. Just tell me
Speaker 2: what the rules are and what are you going to
Speaker 2: say to some player? Hey, you're not as popular, and
Speaker 2: she's gonna go to a roster that is veteran, veteran
Speaker 2: Leyden and I don't know how they're going to accept her.
Speaker 2: But if you look at the criteria, there's nothing in
Speaker 2: there about popularity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a lot of this like hysteria surrounding
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark, who's a great player. That is like reminds
Speaker 3: me a lot of Tim Tebow, where people are just
Speaker 3: irrationally crazy over like everything that way.
Speaker 8: You have to do everything to get him on the field.
Speaker 8: What all he does is win, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8: The whole the nexter kree. You have to build around
Speaker 8: Jeremy Lynn. Are you guys crazy? He's the hottest thing
Speaker 8: in the world right now. Whose career would you rather have,
Speaker 8: Jeremy Lynn or Carmelo Anthony's Like, all of this crowd
Speaker 8: take Jeremy Whin's future over anybody in the NBA right now.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of that same sort of like tone
Speaker 3: to it. That's just it's a little crazy, it's irrational.
Speaker 3: It's completely irrational, and we become cheerleaders. My goal, my
Speaker 3: job is not to be a cheerleader here.
Speaker 2: I just have to see it and then say it,
Speaker 2: and it's not a popular opinion. I just don't think
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is one of the twelve best players right now.
Speaker 2: Maybe if a couple of players drop out because of injuries,
Speaker 2: then maybe she gets a chance. Good. But then I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear when you say, oh, she's not
Speaker 2: getting any playing time. She not going to get playing time.
Speaker 2: She makes the roster. You know, maybe if there's blowouts
Speaker 2: then she gets a chance to play. But you know what,
Speaker 2: we're going to be complaining about that. Maybe she gets
Speaker 2: the chance to play. I think it'd be awesome for her.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be awesome for the sport us getting
Speaker 2: more eyeballs in the sport, more eyeballs on these players.
Speaker 2: But it's not like these players who are on the
Speaker 2: roster go. You know, it'd be nice if we lost
Speaker 2: you know who, so we could get Caitlyn here and
Speaker 2: get some more eyeballs here. I mean, there is a
Speaker 2: sorority here. They've been through this, they've been working for
Speaker 2: this moment. They deserve this moment. It's just the Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark question looms and will continue. Let me see Baker
Speaker 2: and Bozeman, Hey Bake, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Heyter Dandy, kudos to you for giving Danica going into
Speaker 9: surgery a shout out, Danica, You've got this and doing so, Danny,
Speaker 9: you reminded me of your starring role in what is
Speaker 9: perhaps the greatest this is Sports Center at of all time.
Speaker 9: And you know this is a Sports Center campaign the
Speaker 9: hilarious genius. You know you've got not only the maskof
Speaker 9: walking around ESPN, but also anytime that there's an athlete,
Speaker 9: they're always in full uniform. And the ad with Danica
Speaker 9: Patrick not only in her uniform but also the fact
Speaker 9: that she had driven her indie car to the ESPN studios.
Speaker 9: So if you could talk about your memories of that
Speaker 9: shoot and who came up with that concept, because that
Speaker 9: ad with you and Danica Patrick was phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a parking spot that said Dee Patrick
Speaker 2: and I'm waiting to park in my parking spot and
Speaker 2: her car, her race car, is in my parking spot,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what gives And then she points to
Speaker 2: the sign and says, Dee Patrick. She was in New
Speaker 2: York to do David Letterman, and I think they got
Speaker 2: a helicopter for her to come up to shoot that spot,
Speaker 2: and then I think she had done the Letterman Show
Speaker 2: and then flew up and then I had to still
Speaker 2: do Sports Center that night, but I had my car
Speaker 2: and I wanted to pull in, but then her car
Speaker 2: was in there as well, and I just remember, I mean,
Speaker 2: she was that was a big deal at the time,
Speaker 2: but her coming up to the ESPN campus, and first
Speaker 2: of all, Widen and Kennedy, they were wonderful. They are
Speaker 2: the geniuses behind that. All we did is show up,
Speaker 2: shut up, and then they just told us what to do,
Speaker 2: and then we saw what the end result was with
Speaker 2: all of those commercials. And at the time, I'll, you know,
Speaker 2: take you behind the curtain. I go to my boss,
Speaker 2: John Walsh, and I go, why don't we promote Sports Center?
Speaker 2: And he's like, we don't need to. I go, but
Speaker 2: you promote you know, Game Day and NFL count now,
Speaker 2: I mean all these other shows, And I said, why
Speaker 2: don't you promote Sports Center? And then he goes, Okay.
Speaker 2: Then they reached out to Widen Kennedy. They came in
Speaker 2: and they just walked around for a week. Their producers,
Speaker 2: they're writers, just walked around Sports Center and then they
Speaker 2: would just observe us to see what we did, how
Speaker 2: we did it, when we did it, why we did it,
Speaker 2: and then they they were going to do their take
Speaker 2: on what we did, what was everyday life like at ESPN,
Speaker 2: And then you throw in mascot's wallucking around, or hey,
Speaker 2: Gordie Howell just came in, or wrestlers came in. That
Speaker 2: people think that, oh, you got people walking around ESPN
Speaker 2: all the time, which is not the case. But they
Speaker 2: gave you that impression. A wonderful campaign, and you know,
Speaker 2: we would have to come in sometimes it'd be like
Speaker 2: eight in the morning. I'd get done work at midnight
Speaker 2: and then get home by one, a couple of beers
Speaker 2: in bed by two, and then I'd have to come in.
Speaker 2: They go, you're going to do this shoot with and
Speaker 2: they throw out somebody and then be like okay, and
Speaker 2: then you would be there the whole day. ESPN didn't
Speaker 2: pay us to do these commercials. They were like, hey,
Speaker 2: if you want to be in the commercial, we want
Speaker 2: you here, and you'd have to come in, you know,
Speaker 2: all hours, day and night. But it was still it
Speaker 2: was great because you saw the end result, and you know,
Speaker 2: I was glad that management at least opened their eyes
Speaker 2: to say, let's not take Sports Center from I mean
Speaker 2: they do take Sports Center for granted, or they certainly
Speaker 2: did back then, but at least got some recognition, and
Speaker 2: you got to get some athletes there on campus and
Speaker 2: some of the other anchors were in these promotional spots.
Speaker 2: It was great, this is Sports Center. And really even
Speaker 2: the expression, even the slogan this is Sports Center was
Speaker 2: because we got yelled at by management and they said
Speaker 2: stop calling the show the eleven o'clock Sports Center, the
Speaker 2: big show, it's this is Sports Center. And then we
Speaker 2: got yelled at in that meeting and we went on
Speaker 2: the air that night and we were very, very very
Speaker 2: emphatic when we were going to commercial break by saying
Speaker 2: this is a sports center. And then they ended up
Speaker 2: making the ad campaign that was the slogan there. But
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Speaker 2: of our favorites, Jim Jackson will join us. Get his
Speaker 2: thoughts on well, of course, Caitlin Clark, what advice would
Speaker 2: he give to Dan Hurley, and a little bit on
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals as well. We're back after this and
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Speaker 2: He's special to us. He's Jim Jackson, Fox's Turner, NBA
Speaker 2: analyst and the fourth overall pick by the MAVs in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two. Take me back to the Dream Team.
Speaker 2: Latner got the spot on the roster. Shaq was up
Speaker 2: for it, Zoe was up for it. You were up
Speaker 2: for this? Yeah, did you get a chance to try
Speaker 2: out for the Dream Team?
Speaker 5: No? You Let me take you back further. So the
Speaker 5: year before, we had.
Speaker 12: The pan Am game down in Cuba, coach by Gene,
Speaker 12: Katie Grant Hill was on the team. That was Kristin Ladner, myself,
Speaker 12: Tracy Murray, wild Boy was a bunch of us, right Adam.
Speaker 5: Keith back in the day. So during that time, you know,
Speaker 5: we had a really good team.
Speaker 12: I got hurt going into the medal round and I
Speaker 12: was the leading scorer for the team, so I got hurt,
Speaker 12: so I didn't get a chance to play. I figured
Speaker 12: Puerto Rico we lost to so we ended up getting
Speaker 12: the bronze. So in my mind, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 12: I had a little stretch fracture in my foot, and
Speaker 12: my coach, Coach Randiers at the time at Ohio say
Speaker 12: was like, you're not playing, You're done, forget about it.
Speaker 12: I'm like, okay, whatever the Olympics is next year, I'm
Speaker 12: good to go. The Olympics are there, fast forward, boom,
Speaker 12: dream team comes. I'm like, are you kidding me? We're
Speaker 12: going all pro? And then they're like that's all. I'm
Speaker 12: trying to look at the roster and I'm like, well,
Speaker 12: you know, they got a lot of big men already
Speaker 12: with Carl Malone and Patrick Ewing and David Robinson. Barkley's
Speaker 12: that they're not going to take another big man. Got
Speaker 12: to be a guard. So I'm thinking in my mind,
Speaker 12: trying to give myself an opportunity to get there, but
Speaker 12: unfortunately wasn't. It was Christian Nowtrician. At the time, he
Speaker 12: was AP Player of the Year, I was UPI Player
Speaker 12: of the Year. He had all the accolades, one of
Speaker 12: the best college players ever. So you know, you can't
Speaker 12: really be too mad at that aspect because he did
Speaker 12: have the pedigree with regards to being selected. But it
Speaker 12: was tough at that time, and I thought I had
Speaker 12: a really good shot being on the squad.
Speaker 2: Coach K was on the committee too, which helped laden
Speaker 2: her a little bit. Yeah, but Isaiah Thomas had a
Speaker 2: little bit more of a beef that he got snubbed.
Speaker 5: Your of course.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, because of the John Stockton thing. You know,
Speaker 12: but it's never I mean, what's fair. Think about it,
Speaker 12: and it's always something in some kind of selection process,
Speaker 12: even if you go and you try out. My sophomore year,
Speaker 12: it was a Good Will Games and first time I
Speaker 12: ever got cut. Coach K was coach I made it
Speaker 12: to the final round.
Speaker 5: We got a theme here, don't we? Damn we got
Speaker 5: a theme here?
Speaker 12: And I told Coach K about this later on, I said,
Speaker 12: I'm still mad at you. But I thought I played
Speaker 12: really well and didn't make the team. And I was
Speaker 12: just stretching my head, like how could I not make
Speaker 12: I got cut? I never got cut in my life,
Speaker 12: and that, you know, that just showed me that, you know,
Speaker 12: sometimes fits work, fit works better.
Speaker 5: Than the other.
Speaker 12: But I thought Isaiah's was just a detriment to the
Speaker 12: game of basketball, It's no way. But that had to
Speaker 12: do more with he wasn't as like by of course
Speaker 12: Michael and Scottie and maybe Charles at the time.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but that that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is factoring in with Caitlyn Clark not making
Speaker 2: the women's Olympic roster in your mind, maybe.
Speaker 12: All the noise around the season at the beginning, kind
Speaker 12: of the vitrioll going back and forth, all of that
Speaker 12: I think played a role into Now I can't say
Speaker 12: that for sure, but being around the game and being
Speaker 12: around committees, being around sports, it's like, do we want
Speaker 12: to carry this baggage here? What if she doesn't play,
Speaker 12: if she's not playing as much? How much pressure is
Speaker 12: that on the coaching staff on USA Basketball? A lot
Speaker 12: of that, But at the end of the day, too,
Speaker 12: it goes back to it's a lot of women who
Speaker 12: played this game that deserved to be on the team, Okay,
Speaker 12: that had fought extremely hard to get this opportunity to play,
Speaker 12: and for one not to be able to do it
Speaker 12: because you want to implant Kate McCart for the future,
Speaker 12: that's kind of unfair again. It goes back to that
Speaker 12: word fair, unfair again. And I think it was so
Speaker 12: much noise around Caitlyn Clark that I think the committee
Speaker 12: made a decision to pass on what would come with it.
Speaker 5: If Caateman didn't play, if Caitlin didn't do this, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 12: And one way or the other it was going to
Speaker 12: call some kind of controverty because you think about if
Speaker 12: she was on and she got put on before another
Speaker 12: young lady who's been there, think about the vitriol that
Speaker 12: comes from that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, Yeah, it's tricky. You can say put
Speaker 2: her on because she's grown the sport, she has a
Speaker 2: great resume, or you can say she's not one of
Speaker 2: the twelve best players right now in the WNBA, which
Speaker 2: is what I That would be my opinion. She's not
Speaker 2: one of the twelve best. But do I want to
Speaker 2: grow the game? Like I don't want to be shortsighted
Speaker 2: on this because we've seen eyeballs on the WNBA. Can
Speaker 2: we take advantage of that? Is that part of what
Speaker 2: the Olympic Committee should be doing, well, part of.
Speaker 5: It should be.
Speaker 12: You think about it, the committee from the perspective you
Speaker 12: put the twelve best players together. Flat out, that's that's
Speaker 12: the job. But we all know from a political perspective,
Speaker 12: it's not all it's the case. We talked about that
Speaker 12: with the Dream Team. Okay, that is not always the
Speaker 12: case with regards to putting the twelve best players together.
Speaker 12: It's never been like that. It's always been something in there.
Speaker 12: And that's a choice that the WNBA had to make it.
Speaker 12: And that's the quandary that they were faced with. I
Speaker 12: can imagine leading up to it, the number of knockdown
Speaker 12: conversations and one side had this plausible cause to why
Speaker 12: Caitlyn should be there. The other side had this on
Speaker 12: why she shouldn't, okay, And at the end of the day,
Speaker 12: I think they took the path of least resistance, which
Speaker 12: was we can always fall back on Caitlyn has a
Speaker 12: lot of times. She's a rookie. She'll be able to play,
Speaker 12: you know, four years from now. She's not one of
Speaker 12: the twelve best players as of yet. But the marketing
Speaker 12: push for the w NBA is still going to be
Speaker 12: there during the regular season to promote the Indiana Fever.
Speaker 12: More importantly, Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2: Talking to Jim Jackson Fox Turner NBA analysts played fourteen
Speaker 2: seasons in the NBA. If Dan Hurley asked your opinion
Speaker 2: this morning, should I stay or should I go? You
Speaker 2: would say, if.
Speaker 12: You want to be in the NBA? Yes, is it
Speaker 12: with the Lakers? I would say, you think hard. What's
Speaker 12: the long term? What's the short term outlook for you
Speaker 12: as a coach?
Speaker 5: Because here's the thing. The Lakers, Knick's, Celtics, those are
Speaker 5: the three premium jobs.
Speaker 12: We know that you got the bulls behind it in
Speaker 12: Philadelphia and so on.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of pressure that comes with that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you getting paid ten million plus dollars a year,
Speaker 12: eight years, whatever it may be. But the expectation is
Speaker 12: to win now. Ask Darvin Ham. Okay, expectation is to
Speaker 12: win now. I don't care what they say. You got
Speaker 12: a short window opportunity with Lebron James and then Anthony David.
Speaker 12: Is it that you need to win now a year
Speaker 12: or two? Or are we building something out for the
Speaker 12: next seven eight years of your contract on how we're
Speaker 12: going to get our organization back to a premitted.
Speaker 5: Spot where we're competing for a championship.
Speaker 12: I think that's very important. Now, you can take a
Speaker 12: quick hit and get the money. But you can get
Speaker 12: the money too. I think maybe at Yukon. Now the
Speaker 12: landscape you got to put this, keep this in mind, Dan,
Speaker 12: the landscape of college basketball or college sports has changed.
Speaker 12: You're basically now in a pro system within the confines
Speaker 12: of NCAA. The only difference is when you're dealing with
Speaker 12: the NBA, you don't have to go out and raise money,
Speaker 12: you don't have to go out and speak, you don't
Speaker 12: have to do all these other things outside of dealing
Speaker 12: with the board, the president at that university. You have
Speaker 12: to deal with the GM and you have to deal
Speaker 12: with the ownership and NBA. But that's what you're doing
Speaker 12: in college. So what are your expectations, what's the franchise expectations?
Speaker 12: And I think the Lakers gig with Lebronze James, it's
Speaker 12: a tough gig for any coach, let alone a coach
Speaker 12: that hasn't spent time in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder is it advantageous to have Lebron on
Speaker 2: the roster, Like if you're Dan Hurley and you're thinking
Speaker 2: about this, and they're looking at big picture and Lebron's
Speaker 2: going to be there for two more years. Do I
Speaker 2: have to then you know we're taking Bronni James. Does
Speaker 2: he factor into this as well? Anthony Davis's future, the expectations.
Speaker 2: You had a coach who went to the Western Conference
Speaker 2: finals and the next year gets fired. The West is stacked,
Speaker 2: So there's is it a plus having Lebron there? If
Speaker 2: you're Dan Hurley to take this job.
Speaker 5: It's a plus.
Speaker 12: It's a catch twenty two because you want the best
Speaker 12: players to be on your team, and Lebron is still
Speaker 12: one of the best. But it's a certain amount of
Speaker 12: gravity that comes with that. If you get on the
Speaker 12: batside of Lebron and he doesn't have to verbally say it,
Speaker 12: then it's some consequences to that. It's like with any
Speaker 12: superstar of a team, because it's a level of control
Speaker 12: that Dan Hurley is used to having in college. Well,
Speaker 12: he can select his roster, he understands what transfers to
Speaker 12: go get, he understands which freshman to go recruit. Are
Speaker 12: you going to have some kind of roster control? Are
Speaker 12: you going to be able to pick your own staff?
Speaker 12: That was one of the issues. That was a big
Speaker 12: issue too. I remember when Tyer Low and I do
Speaker 12: games for the Clippers. When he had an opportunity to
Speaker 12: be a coacher, he interviewed and it was before Frank Bogel.
Speaker 12: One of the big things was one three year deal
Speaker 12: compared to other coaches getting a five year deal. The
Speaker 12: more important part too with that is that the Lakers
Speaker 12: wanted to pick his coaching stat and Tyler was like, ho, look,
Speaker 12: or any coach that won a championship will be like, oh, up,
Speaker 12: I've won a championship. I should have control over my
Speaker 12: coaching stat And do you have a level a voice
Speaker 12: in the room with roster construction, because you think about this,
Speaker 12: when Frank Vogel was there, they changed the roster, brought
Speaker 12: in Russell Westbrook and some other players that didn't fit.
Speaker 12: How Frank Bogo coach that wasn't his so he was
Speaker 12: forced to coach a roster that didn't fit. So as
Speaker 12: a as a coach, now you're behind a ball, what
Speaker 12: do you do? You're trying to put these you know,
Speaker 12: round sockings into a square hole knowing they don't fit.
Speaker 12: And then at the end of the day, who's fault
Speaker 12: in it's the coach. So it's a lot bigger decision
Speaker 12: and a lot more goes into it.
Speaker 5: When you're with the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Man, is the MAVs situation fixable in the finals.
Speaker 12: Well, you just can't go get more talent. You can't
Speaker 12: do it at this point. I mean that, Dan, you've
Speaker 12: been around us to notice it's all about matchups.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got her here with that talent.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but but matchups, Okay, matchups. Playing against Minnesota is
Speaker 12: it's different than playing against the Celtics. Why Minnesota had
Speaker 12: Anthony Edwards that can beat you off the dribble every
Speaker 12: now and then, Mike Conley could get it, but.
Speaker 5: That was it.
Speaker 12: So when the ball was sprayed around, you didn't have
Speaker 12: Ni kil Walker, Alexander or Jay McDaniel's beating you off
Speaker 12: the dribble forcing you to help them. Now kicking it Boston,
Speaker 12: when you put Chris Stops in, there has five players
Speaker 12: on the court that when the ball rotates, you close out,
Speaker 12: they drive you. You try to stop them, they kick it,
Speaker 12: they drive it again, and they can either make a
Speaker 12: play for their teammates or make a shot. That's the
Speaker 12: challenge that the Mavericks have facing this iteration of the
Speaker 12: Boston Celtics is that you can't take everything away. So
Speaker 12: that's why I say it goes back to matchups. Minnesota
Speaker 12: masters up better with Denver, Dallas master up better with Minnesota.
Speaker 12: This is a tough defensive matchup for the Mavericks versus
Speaker 12: the Celtics.
Speaker 2: If the Celtics win, who gets MVP.
Speaker 12: Well, right now it looks like Jalen Brown, and not
Speaker 12: just because what he's doing offensive.
Speaker 5: I think defensively he has an impact on the game.
Speaker 12: And I'll I'll give a shout out to Jason Tatum
Speaker 12: for a level of maturity as well, because then you
Speaker 12: know this, it's a lot of pressure being in Boston
Speaker 12: and being the guy. He's not shooting the ball particularly well,
Speaker 12: but he said throughout the course of the season that
Speaker 12: he's focused on the team aspect of what we need
Speaker 12: to do to win, and you can kind of see
Speaker 12: that and his deference at times in the game to
Speaker 12: give it up to Derek White, to give it up
Speaker 12: to Jalen Brown, to Drew Holliday and not overly force
Speaker 12: some sense. He's going to pour some shot. That's just
Speaker 12: who he is and that's what superstars do. But he's
Speaker 12: not hanging his head because you know why, then they're
Speaker 12: winning and he's maturity understands that he wants to walk
Speaker 12: in a room with the rest of the grades having
Speaker 12: one of those things on his finger.
Speaker 5: Yeah, gets in the key to that door.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I went to the Boston Garden.
Speaker 2: It was nineteen eighty three, I think, and I remember
Speaker 2: seeing it on TV and I thought, God, it looks
Speaker 2: so gorgeous, the parquet floor. And then I got to
Speaker 2: the floor and I go, Damn, this thing's all banged up,
Speaker 2: and you know's there's gashes in it, there's pieces of
Speaker 2: the wood taken out. Huh, what did you think when
Speaker 2: you first saw the Boston Garden, the original?
Speaker 5: Hold up, have you seen the locker rooms?
Speaker 2: I did. I was in the Lakers locker room when
Speaker 2: they won the title, but it was high school. High
Speaker 2: school locker rooms were I can't even call that a
Speaker 2: locker room, Jim.
Speaker 5: It was a room with some chairs and some hugs.
Speaker 12: No, no, he was a great part about the locker room.
Speaker 12: You didn't know whether the shower was going to be
Speaker 12: hot a cold, or if you glass some friends running
Speaker 12: around to join you in the shower, some little rodents
Speaker 12: running around. You had no idea, So they controlled you
Speaker 12: from that and then Okay, you see that.
Speaker 5: Then you go to the court. The court was.
Speaker 12: Put in pieces because of the party, so we had
Speaker 12: those little screws that were in the court. So that's
Speaker 12: why guys would go in and I know I did.
Speaker 12: You would try to find the dead spots because they
Speaker 12: were there as beautiful in the aura of what if
Speaker 12: what it.
Speaker 5: Was a you can say it, No, I can't say it.
Speaker 12: I can't say it, but it was the nostalgic of
Speaker 12: being in the garden was awesome. I mean it was
Speaker 12: just just you just felt history. But man, the mechanics
Speaker 12: of it and the unders of it, man, it was.
Speaker 5: It was tough, bro.
Speaker 12: I mean, you would hit the ball, you here go
Speaker 12: bump because it wouldn't bounce back up.
Speaker 2: And the Celtics knew there were certain spots on the
Speaker 2: floor that if they doubled you that you know there
Speaker 2: were dead on the floor. Like they were trying to
Speaker 2: use it to their advantage. But I remember somebody put
Speaker 2: a role of quarters in between two pieces of parquet
Speaker 2: because there was that much room in between the spaces between.
Speaker 2: I went, damn, this this thing. It looks a whole
Speaker 2: lot better on TV than it does in person.
Speaker 5: But a lot of those older.
Speaker 12: I remember playing in Chicago. I got a chance of
Speaker 12: playing a lot all the old stadiums, except for Phoenix
Speaker 12: because American Airlines came in in ninety two, so I
Speaker 12: didn't get a chance to play in the coliseum. I
Speaker 12: think it was I played in markets where I played
Speaker 12: in Hemisphere, I played in Washington. The bulls go downstairs underneath,
Speaker 12: you know, matt House, Old Madison, you know the form,
Speaker 12: of course. But all of them had their different quirks
Speaker 12: because they were just older building you felt good about going.
Speaker 5: In, especially the nostalgia of a lot of them.
Speaker 12: But man, I look at these locker rooms now in
Speaker 12: these stadiums and I'm like, are you kidding? The practice
Speaker 12: facilities are better, but which it should be. But I
Speaker 12: think that gave it a little some kind of nostalgia too,
Speaker 12: to a younger player coming in seeing these old buildings
Speaker 12: and playing in them and just reliving some sort of
Speaker 12: a little history through the eyes of a young twenty
Speaker 12: two to twenty three year old.
Speaker 2: God no, I couldn't wait to shoot at the Boston Garden.
Speaker 2: It was just it was awesome.
Speaker 12: You know what I did when we played at the Spectrum.
Speaker 12: I grew up a doctor j Fann, a Philly fan
Speaker 12: sixer fan. I went to the spot where Doc took
Speaker 12: off on Cooper with the Roger Prad.
Speaker 2: But you didn't take off from there, did you?
Speaker 5: But I went. I went.
Speaker 12: I've seen the play so many times, and this is
Speaker 12: the beautiful thing about out an old building that has history.
Speaker 12: It's it's it's places, moments that you see in your mind.
Speaker 12: So when I got there, I envisioned the other side
Speaker 12: of the court there was Dot coming down, Hooper trying
Speaker 12: to get back and he takes off. But also when
Speaker 12: DoD did the reverse layup on the Lakers behind the rim.
Speaker 12: See that you can't get because the history tells the
Speaker 12: story and you try to go relive it as a
Speaker 12: young player in those.
Speaker 5: Old buildings, I mean, unbelieved.
Speaker 12: In the forum, just doing the fast break with Magic
Speaker 12: Johnson to Byron Scott or.
Speaker 5: To Cooper Loop, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: Those moments man as raggedy as some may be, it's
Speaker 12: it's still a beautiful.
Speaker 5: Thing when you're you're caught up into that history.
Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with you. Thank you, Jim
Speaker 2: always did.
Speaker 5: I appreciated my friend and joy.
Speaker 2: That's Jim Jackson, Fox Turner, NBA analyst and fourteen year
Speaker 2: veteran in the NBA. Take a break, close up Shop.
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Speaker 2: WAP last call for phone calls, what we learn? What's
Speaker 2: in store tomorrow? When's Reggie Miller going to be back?
Speaker 7: Todd Reggie with us Wednesday?
Speaker 2: Wednesday? Lawrence Fishburn is supposed to join us tomorrow tomorrow.
Speaker 7: And forty nartist titled George Kittle tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Alrighty, Lawrence Fishburn plays Who's career? Doc Rivers in the
Speaker 2: clipped series on the Clippers. Would you rather have? Who
Speaker 2: would I rather have? Whose career? Yes?
Speaker 3: George Kittle, Laurence Fishburn, Laurence Fishburn all day. Yeah, Lawrence
Speaker 3: Fishburn's had a phenomenal career, Yes, absolutely, phenomenal career.
Speaker 2: Yes, He's been in some big, big hits, curious styles
Speaker 2: you kidding me? Yeah, but he's a matrix. And then
Speaker 2: of course John Wick. John Wick is getting into that
Speaker 2: born identity kind of wherever it is in the movie,
Speaker 2: I end up staying with it all the Born movies,
Speaker 2: and then the same with John Wick. It's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's one, two, three, four, if it's Born, Identity, Born,
Speaker 2: Old Toimate, whatever it is. If it's on, I just
Speaker 2: stop and then I watch Yes Mark.
Speaker 13: Speaking of another installment of a movie. I'm gonna go
Speaker 13: see Bad Boys four tonight, and so I've only been
Speaker 13: hearing great things about it. And the thing is, they're
Speaker 13: on number four and it's to me, you know what,
Speaker 13: I don't care how many more they make. I'm watching.
Speaker 13: It's in that category.
Speaker 2: This is a comeback for Will Smith, right, if you
Speaker 2: want to call it that. Yeah, yeah, oh from the slab. Yeah.
Speaker 14: Had he made a movie since then?
Speaker 2: I think he may have made one.
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Did he make one? Yes?
Speaker 13: I've been told yes, Okay, but this is a blockbuster
Speaker 13: though they did one hundred and four million this weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't see the other three, so I don't know.
Speaker 5: You backed up?
Speaker 2: Do I need to see those before I see Bad
Speaker 2: Boys four? And I think there is a joke. No,
Speaker 2: I think you do. I do.
Speaker 3: I think you probably do, because by the time you
Speaker 3: get to four, like Marvon was saying, it's a lot
Speaker 3: of jokes that are called backs to like.
Speaker 2: One, two, and three that you're like, god, see there
Speaker 2: talking about that. I think there is a reference to
Speaker 2: a slap in this movie, uh, you know, playing off
Speaker 2: the slap with Chris Rock.
Speaker 14: Yes, Paul, I have Will Smith as not being in
Speaker 14: a movie that he filmed after the Slap with Chris Rock.
Speaker 14: There was movies that came out. Emancipation came out, but
Speaker 14: it was filmed already. It was his first new film.
Speaker 2: All right, so it's a comeback, yes, ton.
Speaker 7: I think there's a slapstick comedy in production. Sure, I
Speaker 7: thought I.
Speaker 2: Written Variety, Yeah, him and Chris Rock and a slapstick comedy.
Speaker 2: Yes see.
Speaker 3: I had a moment just yesterday that yeah, like sometimes
Speaker 3: it makes you feel old and you're like, oh I
Speaker 3: am I am the old guy right now. I went
Speaker 3: to go buy something and I, you know, like at
Speaker 3: the counter when you're paying the hap things, and I
Speaker 3: picked up something that looked interesting and was just looking
Speaker 3: at it and I was like, oh, I never had
Speaker 3: this or whatever, and the guy at the counter said, yeah,
Speaker 3: it slaps, and I was like I just looked at him,
Speaker 3: Like I don't hide my emotions very well, but I
Speaker 3: looked at him like, what the what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: It slaps? And I was like, oh wait, I'm old.
Speaker 3: That's what it is the problem right now is I'm old?
Speaker 2: Well what is slaps? I think it means that it's good,
Speaker 2: like cap.
Speaker 5: And no cap.
Speaker 2: That's that's a lie.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's out anyway, there slaps. I was like,
Speaker 3: you mean it's good? That was how old I am?
Speaker 5: Now? Oh?
Speaker 2: You mean it's good?
Speaker 14: Right this day and sports history Paul nineteen twenty one,
Speaker 14: Babe Ruth became baseball's all time home run leader with
Speaker 14: one hundred and twenty home He broke the record of
Speaker 14: Roger Connor, who had it since eighteen ninety seven. Connor
Speaker 14: or Roger Connor, this is a big one. Nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 14: Payley signed a three year deal with the US based
Speaker 14: New York Cosmos and another Baby Ruth. Nineteen nineteen. The
Speaker 14: contract that moved in from Boston to the Yankees sold
Speaker 14: at auction four nine hundred ninety six thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: On this date, nineteen ninety six, Patrick Waw sixty three
Speaker 2: saves the Avalanche beat the Panthers four game sweep Stanley
Speaker 2: Cup Final. That's minding the net right there, Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 2: Steph Curry scores thirty eight. Warriors beat the Cabs. They
Speaker 2: go up three games to one en route to winning
Speaker 2: the Now that's right, Cleveland comes back to win it
Speaker 2: in seven.
Speaker 7: The Patriots of the NBA.
Speaker 2: That was twenty sixteen. D It's like they're up three
Speaker 2: to one. Oh, Steph, unbelievable. He's gonna be the MVP,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden game seven, Kyrie, come
Speaker 2: on down, Uh, Todd, what did you learn today?
Speaker 7: Marvin has prepared himself emotionally for Dan Hurley to leave.
Speaker 7: You come. Don't cry because it's over, Smile because it happened.
Speaker 2: Yep, no word yet on Hurley. Supposed to have practice
Speaker 2: coming up in about ten minutes from now. Seat no' connor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan Hurley osis one. He didn't break the news
Speaker 3: during the show.
Speaker 13: Marvin Jim Jackson said those old NBA arenas were raggedy.
Speaker 2: Paul, would you learn?
Speaker 14: I'm checking the latest.
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