1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: So this is going to be really fun for me. 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: As many of you know, Senator Ted Cruz and I 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: do a podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz three days a week. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: But he is my guest on my podcast, The Ben 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Ferguson Podcasts about his new book that is out. It 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: is a book, Unwoke, that is about what is destroying 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: this country and he calls out the Biden administration on 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: border security, he calls out the left on what they're 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: doing on college campuses. He talks about what happened with 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: COVID and the lockdowns. It's an amazing book and so 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to have senter Ted Cruz as my guest, 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: my co host on my podcast right now. Senator, it's 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you on live on this show. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: You are on book promo tour in New York City 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: this morning. You are on a Levin Life Liberty and Levin, 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: and we love having you obviously to talk about this book. 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: For people that are looking for a great Christmas gift, 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: grab the book if you just want to read a 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: book book. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: And I love how they describe it online. 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: It says Ted Cruz delivers a realistic battle plan for 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: defeating the woke assault on America. That's what inspired you 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: to write this book is really a battle plan of Okay, 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: the left has gone crazy. We have many that are 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: taking over not just government agencies, but our universities are schools. 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: They're trying to go into Marxism and socialism. How do 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: we get back from the brink of that? And that's 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: what inspired you to write a book that's three hundred 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: and eighty three pages long. It is a thick book, 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: one of the thickest ones you've ever written. 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: Well, Ben, that's right, good morning. It's great to be 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: with you. It's great to be with you in a 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: venue other than a verdict, which which you and I 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: do three days a week, and we both we both 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: have these conversations a lot. Look the book on Woke, 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: I wrote because the world has gone insane, and every 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: one of us knows that we're watching the radical extremes, 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: the extreme left that has seized every major institution in America. 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: And so I wrote this book to do a couple 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: of things. Number One, to explain how and why that happened. 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: What on earth? Who would have envisioned a world where 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: corporate America, big business becomes the economic enforcer for the 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: hard left, where big tech censors what you do say online, 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: Where where NFL players refuse to stand for the national anthem, 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: where they teach five and six year olds in schools 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: that that little boys can become girls and little girls 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: can become boys. This is extreme, and it's not an act. 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: How it happens. And then number two, it lays out 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: a battle plan for how we fight back, how we 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: defeat the cultural Marxism in America, and and it lays 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: out specific concrete steps we can take to take our 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: country back, because if we don't do it, we're gonna 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: lose our nation. And we've got to pull it back. 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: From the extreme you mentioned taking our country back and 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: pulling us back. There was some very encouraging poll numbers 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: that came out this morning, and I want to get 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: your reaction this because it's obviously great news. If you're 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: a conservative, your favorite Capitol Hill reporter, I save this 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: just for you. Senator Manny Raju had this bleak report 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: this morning about how bad the new poll numbers are 61 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: for Democrats, specifically Joe Biden listened. 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: One year from today, America will be going to the 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 4: polls to choose a President, and there are alarm bells 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: going off inside the White House this morning. There are 65 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: three big polls out about the race for the White House, 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 4: and none of it is good for Joe Biden. Race 67 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: for president is decided state by state, not nationally, so 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: this morning we want to focus on a series of 69 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: battleground state polls for The New York Times. In Nevada, 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: Trump leaves by ten, leads by six in Georgia, five 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: in Arizona, five in Michigan, and four in Pennsylvania. Biden 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: has just a narrow two point in Wisconsin. Now, Biden 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: won all six of those states in twenty twenty and 74 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: likely needs to win at least four of them to 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: be re elected. And if you dig a little deeper 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: into the poll, things look even bleaker. Voters in these 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: six states save Biden's policies have hurt them personally, and 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: those numbers are flipped when you ask about Trump. Most 79 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: Saint Trump's policies have helped them personally. And then there 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 4: are huge cracks in the coalition that won Biden the 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: White House in twenty twenty. Yes, he's leading among those demographics, 82 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: but not by nearly as much as he needs to 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 4: be he's ahead of Trump among young voters in these 84 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: battleground states by one point. Trump wins twenty two percent 85 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: of black voters, which would be a historically huge measure 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: for a Republican, and the margins are small for Biden 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: among Hispanics and suburban voters. 88 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Now, sentater, you hear that, and it's just like rapture 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: alert number one, Manu Raju actually giving you poll numbers 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: telling you alarm bells are going off inside the White 91 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: House this morning. One year way, this is I think 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: massive numbers, not just for for Trump, but for conservative ideas, saying, 93 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: all right, we went to this socialism and that's what 94 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the Biden administration has been doing, and we went to 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: this extreme woke agenda and now it's turning American families. 96 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: These numbers are spelled horrific news for Democrats. 97 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, look, that's exactly right. I have several thoughts. Number one, 98 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: it's kind of amusing listening to see an inn put 99 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: against reporter on air where he's practically crying he's so 100 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: unhappy with those poll numbers because it is bad news. Listen, 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: the Biden agenda is a train wreck. It is a mess. 102 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: That the classic question for any election is are you 103 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: better off than you were four years ago? And for 104 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: almost any voter in the United Statess, the answer is 105 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: hell no, Like for everyone between inflation and crime and 106 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: chaos at our southern border, not to mention two wars 107 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: across the globe at America at greater jeopardy than we've 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: ever seen in our lifetimes, the answer unless you are 109 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: a an international drug dealer or human trafficker, in which 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: case the answer is yes, your life is much better 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: today than it was four years ago, and you ought 112 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: to vote for Joe Biden. You're not a citizen, but 113 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: who cares. He wants illegals to vote, so that's fine. 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: But unless you're a drug cartel, the answer for everyone 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: else is no. Everything else has gotten crappier. And so 116 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: I think those poll numbers show that the Biden record 117 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 3: is a train wreck and people want to get back 118 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: to common sense policies that work. I also think those 119 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: poll numbers are sending off alarm bells. We saw David 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: Axelrod Barack Obama's right hand publicly urging Biden to drop 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: out of the race. I think Dems are panicking, and Ben, 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: you and I broke the news three months ago on 123 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: an episode of our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz that 124 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: the odds keep rising every day that the Democrats will 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: jettison Joe Biden and try to parachute in Michelle Obama 126 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: at the last minute. And I got to say, with 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: these poll numbers and an axl Rod coming out public, 128 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: those odds continue to rise every day. 129 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into that, because this is I 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: think part of what you talk about in your book 131 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: is the Democratic Party has gotten so extreme. They're coming 132 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: after parents, They're coming after your kids at universities and 133 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: public schools. They tried to push this transgenderism down our 134 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: throats and say, if you don't agree with it, we'll 135 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: try to ruin your business, ruin your family, ruin any 136 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, school, or anybody that disagrees with us, We'll 137 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: try to kick you out of office. You've got Hollywood 138 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: that's all in on this. And then you go back 139 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: to what you just mentioned. This is a moment where 140 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: Democrats do you think they believe maybe they went too 141 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: far and they got a dial it back and they've 142 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: lost the country because they put all this and implement 143 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: it and now it's such a disaster on the average 144 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: American family. And if they do parachute in Michelle Obama, 145 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: to be clear, she's just as bad, if not worse, 146 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: than Joe Biden. She's a woke person. She's a Marxist 147 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: as socialist. However you want to describe her with policies, 148 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: that's what Obama is as well. But if they parachute 149 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: her in, it's about likability, right, She'll come out as 150 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: a mom, She'll say she once this for the country, 151 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 1: and they parachute her into the convention and she doesn't 152 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: even have to talk policies. It's just likability, like hey 153 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: do you like Oprah? Do you not like Oprah? It's like, 154 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: hey do you like miche Obama? Do you not like 155 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Michelle Obamba? And then it's only what three month campaign? 156 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: It would be a scary yet brilliant move. 157 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: It would be a very scary move. And listen, to 158 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 3: be clear, you know you asked our Dems getting nervous 159 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: they've gone too far left. I got to say, as 160 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: they are, I see no evidence of it. The Democrats 161 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: I serve with in the Senate, they're still much more 162 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: afraid of being primary from the left than they are 163 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: of losing the general election, and it's because the media 164 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: has been corrupted. So this book Unwoke What exams how 165 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: this happened. And it starts with the universities, because Marxists 166 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: always start by going after our kids. The first chapter 167 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: in the book is entitled Universities the Wuhan Lab, the 168 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: Wuhan Lab of the woke virus. And that is because 169 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: universities are where the woke virus was created. It's where 170 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: it mutated, it's where it spread. And the cultural Marxists, 171 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,359 Speaker 3: beginning in the sixties and seventies, began seizing the universities 172 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: and raising up these campus radicals. But from there it 173 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: spread to every other institution. So each chapter of the 174 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: book focuses on a different American institution that the cultural 175 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: Marxists have seen. So it goes from the universities to 176 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: K through twelve education, to journalism to big business, to 177 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: big tech, to entertainment including movies and TV and music 178 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 3: and sports, to science. Every one of these one after 179 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: the other after the other. The cultural Marxist succeeds. And 180 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: and so you ask, are the Democrats worried they've gone 181 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: too far left? I don't think they are, because journalism 182 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: has been corrupted, So CNN no longer views its role 183 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: as being an actual journalist, as reporting on both sides. 184 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: They are instead explicitly propaganda's. They are provda. They are 185 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: advocating a view which is the left wing of the 186 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: Democrat Party. And and so Democrats are incentivized to go 187 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: hard left because they will never be called out out 188 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: by the corporate media for doing it. And and so 189 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: what this book lays out our strategies to fight back, 190 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: how we can turn it around. 191 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about this election coming up. What do 192 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: you think the top issue is going to be for 193 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the average American nationwide or the top two? Is it 194 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: going to be the economy stupid? Is it going to 195 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: be this this agenda that in the in the extreme 196 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: of the socialism or is it going to be like, hey, 197 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: cognitive decline of Joe Biden. 198 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: So, look, we're a year out, and so it's always 199 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: hard to predict with certainty where things will be in 200 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: a year because there will be events in the world 201 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: that we can't predict right now. But the question in 202 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: every election is are you better off now than you 203 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: were four years ago? And perennially the top issue there 204 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 3: is the economy, and inflation out of control, the cost 205 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: of living. People are hurting hard. It's more expensive to 206 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 3: put food on your table. It's more expensive to run 207 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: the air conditioning and heat. It's much more expensive to 208 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: fill your car truck with gas. That is impacting people 209 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: in a very real sense. There's also safety and security. 210 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: Crime is skyrocketed. Everywhere. People feel unsafe. They feel unsafe 211 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: for their kids. Their kids are under assault. The chaos 212 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: of illegal immigration has become real and personal. Eight million 213 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: people crossing illegally into this country. They're now flooding every city. 214 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: When you've got the Democrat Mayor of New York saying 215 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: illegal immigration is destroying New York City, you know it 216 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: has gotten bad. And then on foreign policy, Look, where 217 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: foreign policy really matters is when people again don't feel 218 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: safe and secure, when they feel like their families are threatened. 219 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: Think about it. Three years ago, Joe Biden inherited peace 220 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: and prosperity. In just under three years, with Joe Biden's 221 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: weak and ineffective leadership, we now have the largest land 222 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 3: war in Europe since World War Two and the worst 223 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: attack on Israel in fifty years. We've got war in 224 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: the Middle East, and by the way campus radicals on 225 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: campus threatening Jewish students with violence. Anyone looking at the 226 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: world says, this is a mess. And I think all 227 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: of those are going to be major issues come November. 228 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: Let's also talk about this, what's happening in Israel. And 229 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: I want to get into this because there's been this, 230 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: I would argue woke ideology that you don't stand with Israel. 231 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: It's now become seeming a part of bigger part of 232 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. 233 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: Obviously the squad. 234 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I never could have imagined a day that innocent people 235 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: could be butchered this way, babies beheaded, infants beheaded, put 236 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: in ovens by hamas. And yet there's a significant portion 237 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party that you serve with in Congress 238 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: that are behind them. Is that part of the unwoke agenda? 239 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Are the woke agenda the Democratic Party that you're warning 240 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: about in the book. 241 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: It very much is, you know, you know, a couple 242 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: of weeks ago, I was sitting down with a very 243 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: successful tech entrepreneur who's historically been quite left a center, 244 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: and he was expressing enormous dismay at the extreme anti 245 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: semitism and hatred of Israel that is manifesting number one 246 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: in the Democrat Party in Congress with the squad and 247 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: the viciousness we're seeing, but number two on college campuses. 248 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: And he was saying, where do this comfort? And I 249 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: explained it, you know, really in terms of the book Unwoke. 250 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: You know, it describes so Marxism, which derives obviously from 251 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: the teachings of Karl Marx. He frames the world in 252 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: terms of an inevitable conflict, and Marx broke it down 253 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: on socioeconomic terms. It's a conflict between the oppressors and 254 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: the victims. The oppressors, in Marx's worldview are the owners 255 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: of capital and the victims of the proletariat, the workers. 256 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: And Marxist solution is a violent overthrow, a revolution of 257 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: the proletariat, the workers, seizing the capital and the means 258 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: of production, and relying on government to take it forcibly 259 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: from from the oppressors and give it to the victims. 260 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: That's plain vanilla Marxism. That's who who burrowed into college 261 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: campuses starting in the sixties and seventies. What the cultural 262 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: Marxist have done is taken that Marxist worldview and they've 263 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: applied it to cultures so everything is an inevitable battle 264 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: between oppressors and victims. And their solution to everything is 265 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: force is if you do not comply, they will make 266 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: you comply. They will attack and undermine the oppressors and 267 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: forcibly benefit the victims. And I explain. Look, the reason 268 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: the left is so viciously anti Semitic is in the 269 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: cultural Marxist worldview, Jews are coded as oppressors. When these 270 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: Marxists look at Israel, they see the Israelis as oppressors 271 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: and the Palestinians are coded as victims. And once you 272 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: start with that worldview, the only acceptable leftist perspective is 273 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: that you should have a violent revolution of the victims, 274 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: the Palestinians against the oppressors and forcibly take from the 275 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: oppressors and redistribute to the victims. And that's why so 276 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: many on the left are not condemning the horrific attacks 277 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: and atrocities from Hamas because they're cheering them on. Look. 278 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: Rashida Talib, a member of Congress member of the Squad, 279 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: tweeted out the racist slogan of Amas from the river 280 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: to the sea. Now what that means is from the 281 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: Jordan River all the way to the sea. It means 282 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: annihilate all of Israel, kill every Jew. It is a 283 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: call to genocide. And that's what an elected, current sitting 284 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: Democrat member of Congress is saying to the world. 285 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: All right, let me tell you real quick about an 286 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: amazing company called Patriot Mobile. For ten years, they have 287 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: been America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. 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And I think one of the most 313 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: horrific consequences of this woke ideology is the kumbaiism, which is, oh, 314 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: we don't really need to have border security. That's somehow inhumane. 315 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: We don't really need to have laws when it comes 316 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: to legal immigration, because you know, who are we to 317 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: decide that we should have a secure border or who 318 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: should or shouldn't come into this country and we should 319 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: just be loving and open and welcoming. We're a sanctuary city. 320 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: We love every illegal immigrant. Come to New York City, 321 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: come to San Francisco, come to La You had people 322 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: campaigning just a couple of years ago, including New York 323 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: Mayor Adams on this and saying come to our cities 324 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: and we will love you and accept you. In this 325 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: woke kumbaiism, it's not just a disaster on our economy. 326 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: It's a disaster now from a national security standpoint. 327 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: And you witnessed. 328 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: The atrocities that are happening because of this woke agenda. 329 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. I was down on our southern 330 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: border two weeks ago and I went out on midnight 331 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 3: patrol with the border patrol agents, and within minutes you 332 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: encounter groups of illegal aliens. We encountered one group that 333 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: had about twenty or twenty five, mostly women and children. 334 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: It had young teenagers, it had me. There was a 335 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: thirteen year old girl who was unaccompanied. She had no 336 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: family members with her. There was a fifteen year old 337 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: boy who was unaccompanied. There was a sixteen year old 338 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: girl who was unaccompanied. They all said they were coming 339 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: to America to meet their too, and Teo is of 340 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: course Spanish for uncle. And yet when you question them 341 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: about their TEO, they're like, oh, no, no, no, my to 342 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: doesn't know I'm coming. They just had a phone number, 343 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: and tragically, the more we talked to them and the 344 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: more it became clear that these uncles were made up 345 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: and that these kids, these kids are being trafficked. And 346 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: I got to say it was particularly horrific. There was 347 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: a ten year old girl with an adult man who 348 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: said he was her father, and she said he was 349 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 3: her father, and it was obvious he was not her father. 350 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: She was terrified. The look of terror in her face 351 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: was haunting. And he had his arm around her, but 352 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: not in a gentle caress like a father, but firmly 353 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: holding her right where she was so she couldn't move. 354 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: And this is a pattern we're saying a lot. You know, 355 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: under the Trump administration, when an adult man would show 356 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: up with a child and can't claim to be the 357 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: father of the child, they would DNA test them both 358 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: and they found about thirty percent of them were not 359 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: related at all. And because the policies favor of family 360 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 3: coming in, the cartels literally rent children to adult men 361 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: who want to come ilegally into this country because they 362 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: had processed faster. Well. One of the very first things 363 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: Joe Biden did when he came in is stopped the 364 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: DNA testing and give me any reasonable, irrational justification for 365 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: stopping the testing, and what was sick that little girl. 366 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: All of these kids very likely had been abused in 367 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: the travel to the United States when they were being 368 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: trafficked by human traffickers and vicious drug cartels. But many 369 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: of these kids were headed for a life where they 370 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: can we're going to get continue to be in sex slavery. 371 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: And I got to say the border patrol is frustrated 372 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: because the Biden administration won't let them do anything about it. 373 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: They're required to just pross them, process them, and let 374 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: them go. And the numbers are now utterly indefensible. And 375 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 3: I got to tell you the radical left does not care. 376 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: You also talk about not just this idea that they 377 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: want an open border, but they want to fundamentally change 378 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: this country through illegal immigration. And yes, Joe Biden refuses 379 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: to really go down there look at the border. Democrats 380 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: refuse to go down there because I think if they 381 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: saw it, there has to be a moment there where 382 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: you say, Okay, this policy is wrong. It's being exploited. 383 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: They're making money off of human trafficking. And talk about 384 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: the wristbands and what you see and the trees where 385 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: they literally like prizes. They throw the underwear of young 386 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: girls up in these trees just to taunt the US 387 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: border patrol. 388 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: Look, those are both realities. If you go down to 389 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: the southern border, you see colored wristbands just laying in 390 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: the grass by the river. Because virtually every illegal alien 391 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: comes into this country. Where's one of those colored wristbands. 392 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: The color corresponds to how many thousands of dollars they 393 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: owe the cartels, because it is big business trafficking human beings, 394 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: and these cartels have become massively wealthy as a result 395 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: of Biden's open borders, and when they arrived, most of 396 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: the people here still owe thousands of dollars to the cartels. 397 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: And so the teenage boys get sent to every city 398 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: in America and they're working for the cartels and committing 399 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: crimes in your city. Wherever you are. You might think 400 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: you're not in a border city, Well you are, because 401 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: the Biden administration is sending illegal immigrants to every city 402 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: in America, and the boys are often committing crimes in 403 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: those cities to pay off their debts to the cartels. 404 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 3: And the girls, thousands upon thousands of the girls find 405 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 3: themselves trapped in sex slavery, and it's a living hell. 406 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: They're putting the forced prostitution until they can pay back 407 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: what they owe, and this is often thirteen, fourteen, fifteen 408 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: year old girls. It is truly this is modern day slavery. 409 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: Then when I look at these wristbands, I see leg 410 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: irons from the days of slavery, and the Left does 411 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: not care. Look, what the book Unwoke explains is that 412 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: Mark's sister about power, and it walks through If you 413 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: look at communist countries across the world, they routinely produce 414 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: death and suffering and torture and concentration camps and misery 415 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: and poverty, and the left doesn't care. These open borders 416 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: are about Democrats flooding this country with what they view 417 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: will be future Democrat voters. And if a bunch of 418 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: children have to be sexually assaulted, if women have to 419 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: be rate, if people have to die, if one hundred 420 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 3: thousand people have to die of drug overdoses, to the 421 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: cultural Marxist, that's a perfectly acceptable cost, because what matters 422 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: to them is power. But the beauty of the beauty 423 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: of this book is it explains what their kryptonite is, 424 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: which is they can't defend their policies. The policies are 425 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: wildly unpopular. They rely on censorship and silence and hiding it. 426 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: It's why Joe Biden, Tamala Harris don't go to the border. 427 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 3: You can't defend what's happening there. They rely on control, 428 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 3: which means things like your show, Ben, things like our 429 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: podcast Verdict. It means things like Elon Musk buying Twitter. 430 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: Finding ways to shine a light and tell the truth 431 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: is one of the critical ways we defeat the cultural. 432 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: Marxist Final question for you, and this is something that 433 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: is near and dear to your heart, especially something in 434 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: the book on Woke How to Defeat Culture Marxism in America. 435 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: You talk about the attack on our court system by 436 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: the left and also so our Supreme Court, and have 437 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: a very significant warning about that. 438 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's right. Look, the last wants to destroy our 439 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: Supreme Court. It's the one institution at the national level 440 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 3: as they don't control. They have a smear campaign against 441 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: Justice Thomas in particular. And actually, Ben, you're in my 442 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: episode of Verdict today, the brand new podcast that came 443 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: out today. We discuss the smear campaign from the Democrats 444 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 3: trying to destroy Justice Thomas and that fundamentally is an 445 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: assault on the Bill of Rights and our constitutional rights. 446 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you something and let's send us some 447 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: good news, which is the book Unwoke. It is officially 448 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: released tomorrow and it is already on the Amazon bestseller list. 449 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: It is number one and number two and number three 450 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: for political bestseller, so it's the top three, the hardcovers 451 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: number one, the audio books number two, the kindle versions 452 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: number three, So that is encouraging. People want to know 453 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: what the hell is happening and how do we defeat it. 454 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: But overall, in terms of all books, not just politics, 455 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: we're number four. So we just beat Barbara streisand today 456 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: she's right below us. 457 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: I love that, I'll tell you. 458 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Britney Spears is still above us at number one, 459 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: and so Ben, we need to fix that. I actually 460 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: have my team going out and buying me some butcher 461 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: knives because I'm gonna start dancing with knives. We gotta 462 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: beat Brittany. And so let me just ask your listeners, 463 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 3: go right now to Amazon and buy Unwoke. How to 464 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: Defeat Cultural Marxism in America, because this is about empowering 465 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: you to know how to turn our country back. And 466 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: I'll say one last thing. The book is also a 467 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: fun read. It's filled with stories. It's not some abstract 468 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: academic treatise. It is real and practical and it tells 469 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: you what's happening and how we win. 470 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: It's an incredible book. Grab it wherever you can. 471 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: Amazon, as you said, it comes out on Tuesday, officially 472 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: in Bookstore. If you want to get it there on Tuesday, 473 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: and it's out right now. You can grab it and 474 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: everything on Amazon or wherever you want to download it. 475 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: There's the candle version, the hardcore, that the hardcover book. 476 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: It's awesome. You can grab it and don't forget download 477 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: our podcast Verdict with Ted Cruse wherever you get your podcasts. 478 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: It's a great Christmas gift as well, so grab that 479 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: as well. 480 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: Center. It's a pleasure. It's fun to have this. 481 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Conversation a little bit different on my show as we 482 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: do three days a week Verdict together. But congrats on 483 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: the book. I have a gut feeling this thing's going 484 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: to go to number one, and I hope everybody listening 485 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: will buy it right now. 486 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 3: Thanks man, God bless Center. 487 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure and it's really fun to have 488 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: you on my podcast. Make sure you hit that subscribe 489 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: button or follow button, auto download button wherever you're listening 490 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: right now, and most importantly, please write U a five 491 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: story review and share this on social media. 492 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: I'll see you back here tomorrow