Speaker 1: Every night when I put Adler to bed. It's some
Speaker 1: of my favorite times with him because Jensen hangs out
Speaker 1: with him in his room while I put Keaton to bed,
Speaker 1: and then I leave Keaton's room and I go into
Speaker 1: Adler's room, and then Jensen says good night to Adler
Speaker 1: and he turns off the lights, and Jensen leaves, and
Speaker 1: Adler and I just stay there in his room in
Speaker 1: the pitch black, and we talk and we can't see
Speaker 1: each other. So there's a whole new freedom, he feels.
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons I think kids talk when
Speaker 1: they're in the car, like there isn't that direct eye contact,
Speaker 1: so they feel more free to talk about things. And
Speaker 1: every night he starts the same way moms talk about something,
Speaker 1: and I say, Okay, what do you want to talk about? Now?
Speaker 1: Adler will be five at the end of June, so
Speaker 1: he's not quite five. He says to me the other night, Mom,
Speaker 1: did you know that Damien, who's one of his best
Speaker 1: friends in his class and is also in his karate class,
Speaker 1: did you know that Damien had a dog named Angel?
Speaker 1: And I said I did know that, Yeah, Yeah, Damien
Speaker 1: had a dog named Angel. And he goes, yeah, an
Speaker 1: angel died.
Speaker 2: Oh no, And.
Speaker 1: I said yeah. I said, it's you know, it's unfortunate,
Speaker 1: but dogs don't live forever. And he goes, well, not
Speaker 1: Brunch and Bill, right, Brunch and Bill, They're not going
Speaker 1: to die, oh no, And I go, well, uh, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: they will die. They will die, and he goes no,
Speaker 1: And I just I feel the anxiety and the social
Speaker 1: just dread Phil in his little body. And I said, well, honey,
Speaker 1: nobody knows when that time will be. The good news
Speaker 1: is neither Brunch or Bill are sick. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to think we have any reason to worry about them
Speaker 1: dying anytime soon. We don't know when it will be.
Speaker 1: But you may even be ten like that, you know,
Speaker 1: because to him, the idea of when he's going to
Speaker 1: be ten, he feels like he's been hearing about his
Speaker 1: fifth birthday forever. So no need to go into the
Speaker 1: fact that we had the radioactive cat.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't even you don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't even I didn't even bring it up. I
Speaker 1: just said, you know, absolutely not, no no problems there.
Speaker 1: He goes, well, are you I mean, are you sure?
Speaker 1: I really don't think I don't want Brench and Bill
Speaker 1: to die. I don't. I just don't know why that
Speaker 1: needs to happen. And I said, but honey, nothing lives forever,
Speaker 1: which was a no, because his next question.
Speaker 2: Was what about you and Dad? No, what about me?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna die, right, And I just silent, And
Speaker 1: he says again, Mommy, I'm not gonna die, right, And
Speaker 1: I again silent because I'm in my head. What do
Speaker 1: I say?
Speaker 2: The terminator going through all the possible things you can say.
Speaker 1: You know, I really pride myself on being able to
Speaker 1: tell him Mommy and Daddy don't lie to you. When
Speaker 1: Mommy and Daddy tell you something, it's because it's the truth,
Speaker 1: or at the very least, it's what we believe. When
Speaker 1: I tell him something I believe, I say, I don't
Speaker 1: know for sure, but this is what I believe. Other
Speaker 1: people believe other things, and they don't. Also they also
Speaker 1: don't know for sure, and people are allowed to believe
Speaker 1: different things. It doesn't mean you have to try to
Speaker 1: change somebody's beliefs. So I'm also I'm very clear about that.
Speaker 1: And if he asks me something and I truly do
Speaker 1: not know the answer, I just say I do not know,
Speaker 1: and if there is the answer to be found, I say,
Speaker 1: but let me find out for you, and then I
Speaker 1: can go on the journey of finding it out. So
Speaker 1: I'm like my gut, which is to immediately just stop
Speaker 1: the no, not you, you're court because I because that's
Speaker 1: all I want in this moment is for him.
Speaker 2: I don't know, let me find out. I don't let
Speaker 2: me go.
Speaker 1: And I also I refuse to lie. And so he
Speaker 1: says it a third time, Mommy, I'm not going to die,
Speaker 1: right And then what came out of my mouth was, honey,
Speaker 1: these are adult problems. And he said, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: And I said, you're talking to down the road. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm punching it down the road.
Speaker 2: And I suppose you're the concept of death. So I
Speaker 2: don't have to do.
Speaker 1: And I said, these are these are not the things
Speaker 1: that for almost five year olds should be thinking about.
Speaker 1: You don't need to think about this right now, I said.
Speaker 1: And he said, well, I said, there are adult problems
Speaker 1: and there are kid problems. He said, what's a kid problem?
Speaker 1: And I said, at your age, you're learning to read.
Speaker 1: Learning to read is your problem. That's a kid problem.
Speaker 1: Making friends, being kind to people, learning to regulate your
Speaker 1: big emotions. Those are all things that you should spend
Speaker 1: your time thinking about and working on. And these things
Speaker 1: that we're talking about are things that mommy and Daddy
Speaker 1: think about and and not him. And he, thankfully that
Speaker 1: worked very well for him. He said I love you, mom.
Speaker 1: I said I love you too, and then he said
Speaker 1: you can leave now, and which is always what he
Speaker 1: says when he's done, when he's done, when he's ready
Speaker 1: for me to leave because he's ready to go to sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been dismissed. And then he's never brought it up again.
Speaker 1: He did bring up Angel again. He did bring up
Speaker 1: somehow something came up. I think I said to Keaton, well,
Speaker 1: thank you Angel, and he was like, Mommy, Damien's dog's
Speaker 1: name was Angel. And I was like, I know, but
Speaker 1: but he didn't bring up any of the other stuff.
Speaker 2: So I remember this moment from my own childhood. I
Speaker 2: really yeah. I was playing war with Keith Stackhouse, my
Speaker 2: best friend, and we were running around.
Speaker 1: The war or is there a different.
Speaker 2: In War?
Speaker 3: And we were like running around in the woods at
Speaker 3: my house and and we were like and I like fell.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, and then I die and.
Speaker 3: I fell on the ground and played dead and started bowling,
Speaker 3: and I remember poor Keith being like, right, are you okay?
Speaker 2: What happens after I died?
Speaker 3: And then I walked in and I was like and
Speaker 3: he he like probably helped pick me up. And we
Speaker 3: walked to my dad in the garage, and I remember
Speaker 3: my dad was like working us up, and I was like,
Speaker 3: am I going to die?
Speaker 2: And in classic kings run.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything does here just like and I just remember this,
Speaker 3: you know, And then we just sat and talked about
Speaker 3: it all afternoon. And but it's so interesting, like I've
Speaker 3: off thought of that as a good example of how
Speaker 3: important play is, right, like how important imagination is, because
Speaker 3: it probably had been told some version of death or thought.
Speaker 3: But like, for whatever me, acting out death made it
Speaker 3: real for me, and like I was able to like
Speaker 3: have to like realize, oh, I can't imagine what happens
Speaker 3: after I am there, I was next, and what happens next?
Speaker 3: And I didn't know how to act it. I didn't
Speaker 3: know how to play it in my imagination. And it
Speaker 3: was like and yeah, so I just this, like I
Speaker 3: still still see the grass like sideways laying on the ground,
Speaker 3: like trying to and being like.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's there's nothing beyond that. I don't know where
Speaker 2: to go. Yeah, I think yeah, play is important. Man
Speaker 2: with your friends.
Speaker 1: Thankfully has handled it well. He wears all black now
Speaker 1: and he listens to nine inch nails, and I don't
Speaker 1: think there's nothing that nothing eyeliner.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, my parents told me I am going to live forever,
Speaker 4: and I believe them, So I'm good.
Speaker 1: You'll carry on the podcast in ant.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep going the entire time, gonna do
Speaker 4: the re listen of the re listen of the re listen.
Speaker 2: It'd be great, be like, yeah, this is so here
Speaker 2: we are. It's twenty three forty.
Speaker 1: Arcause he's also never gonna die.
Speaker 2: Yes, just Adler and I together. I love it.
Speaker 4: An angel wherever rest in peace angel right now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like luckily, our luckily, our cat and dog aren't sick
Speaker 4: at all. It's like you just irradiated your cat where
Speaker 4: you had to be at arm's length away.
Speaker 1: Listen. We did it so we could buy the kid
Speaker 1: like five or six more years. And by the cat,
Speaker 1: I mean the cat, I mean this cat's now gonna
Speaker 1: live forever. We've we've taken care of the one thing
Speaker 1: that was causing him to be at rich. Oh, welcome
Speaker 1: to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm.
Speaker 2: Right or Strong, and I'm wilfordell.
Speaker 1: Well. Welcome to this episode of Pod Meets the World.
Speaker 1: It's season four, episode twenty Security Guy. It originally aired
Speaker 1: April fourth, nineteen ninety seven. The synopsis. After getting fired
Speaker 1: from Alan's store, Eric gets a job as a security guard,
Speaker 1: but mister Feenie and his family think he's wasting his potential.
Speaker 1: All the while, Cori and Tapanga try to convince Sean
Speaker 1: to take an sat prep course. It was directed by
Speaker 1: Jeff McCracken. It was written by There's a story by
Speaker 1: Mark Bluman and Howard Buskang and a teleplay by Matthew Nelson. So,
Speaker 1: before I jump into guest stars, did you guys have
Speaker 1: any overall thoughts? I can start if you want. I know,
Speaker 1: I always ask a question, and you guys feel like
Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the spot. I okay, I'll get
Speaker 1: my complaint out of the way first. I find it
Speaker 1: a little off putting that no matter how many different
Speaker 1: things Eric tries to do, everything is presented as he
Speaker 1: will end up being a loser unless he takes the
Speaker 1: SATs and goes to college. I know, I find that
Speaker 1: a little off putting. Like I just and I know
Speaker 1: that it was the nineties, and I know that it's
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that especially back then,
Speaker 1: you know, going to college and getting an education, did
Speaker 1: feel like if you didn't do that, your life was
Speaker 1: at risk, Like, well, what could happen to you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I know that. I know that I'm not judging
Speaker 1: the show by it, but it does just every time
Speaker 1: every time we have an episode about it, I get
Speaker 1: a little irked because I'm like, geez, is there nothing
Speaker 1: anyone can do without this? With that said, I loved
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 2: Oh cool.
Speaker 1: I really loved it. I thought it was I thought
Speaker 1: the performances were great, I thought the I thought the
Speaker 1: there's some you know, kind of maybe outdated stuff with
Speaker 1: the parents and who the blaming and what the roles
Speaker 1: are of parenting that's outdated whatever, But none of that
Speaker 1: really bumped me. I just I loved it. I loved
Speaker 1: the episode. I was very entertained. I thought it was
Speaker 1: really well done and I just enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: So I agree with you one hundred percent. I had
Speaker 4: the same problem. I also think, and again looking hindsight
Speaker 4: being what it is and what we're learning more about
Speaker 4: today when it comes to four year schools and things
Speaker 4: like that, I think it's a big missed opportunity to
Speaker 4: show that you could do other things. Eric didn't need
Speaker 4: to go to college, that you know, he could have
Speaker 4: learned a trade. Would have been a very interesting way
Speaker 4: to go about it. I thought would have been empowering
Speaker 4: for the character. But that being said, it was a
Speaker 4: fun episode to watch. I remember, unfortunately can't remember the
Speaker 4: actor's name, but the guy who played the other security
Speaker 4: guard I remember. He and I got along very well
Speaker 4: this week. I love episodes where I just got to
Speaker 4: work with Rusty and Betsy and Bill. I felt like
Speaker 4: as an actor, and again I had my own little ooh,
Speaker 4: I wish I could have done that moment over ooh,
Speaker 4: I hamm that up a little bit.
Speaker 2: I had that a couple times.
Speaker 4: But for me, it felt like, ooh, they're putting me
Speaker 4: with the adults, and there was something I liked where
Speaker 4: I was like I was now a member of this cast.
Speaker 2: With the adults where it was always kind of floating.
Speaker 4: And so to be in that kind of realm as
Speaker 4: an actor of It's Gonna be You and Bill and
Speaker 4: Rusty and Beat. I mean that to me was was great.
Speaker 4: Like I felt like they were kind of hating me
Speaker 4: on the back, like you're gonna go You're gonna go
Speaker 4: play with the big kids this week, right, So I
Speaker 4: really love that. But yeah, that was my only other
Speaker 4: problem was I thought they they really do, really are
Speaker 4: harping on that you need to go to college. And
Speaker 4: we talked about this in the other episode, which is
Speaker 4: really interesting because Michael didn't and so it was I
Speaker 4: thought a real opportunity to show that you do not
Speaker 4: need to go to a four year school.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 4: You know, sets are what they are, but you know,
Speaker 4: you don't need to go to a four year college.
Speaker 4: And having Foene say things like, yes, I think you're settling.
Speaker 4: I think you're doing that, it got a little much.
Speaker 4: But I loved I thought the episode was fun. I
Speaker 4: thought it was funny. There's times I was I felt emotional,
Speaker 4: which I don't normally do that with Boy Meets World episodes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I very much liked it. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny because it's not even the college thing,
Speaker 2: which we've talked a lot about.
Speaker 3: It's specifically distilled to SASA over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: I had no idea our show. I mean, this is
Speaker 3: probably the seventh episode of Boy Meets World dedicated to
Speaker 3: taking the SATs as the locus of all of your
Speaker 3: academic energy and the benchmark. And I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Guess, you know, I guess that's.
Speaker 3: A an oversimplification, probably because it makes for just a
Speaker 3: very easy story point. Yeah, it's like are you going
Speaker 3: to take them? And then what's your score going to be?
Speaker 3: And it becomes this like a sort of condensed, distilled
Speaker 3: way to be, like, you know, here's a very clear choice.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't age very well because it's so specific.
Speaker 3: And of course, like colleges haven't been requiring the SATs
Speaker 3: for like the last ten years. It's now coming back
Speaker 3: in vogue, but like, you know, there's all these questions
Speaker 3: around SAT this is a thing, but back then it was.
Speaker 3: And I guess it's just fascinating that our writing staff,
Speaker 3: our creative team really decided to just hammer this home
Speaker 3: and like make that all the focus. And yeah, it
Speaker 3: just it just kind of I was like rolling my
Speaker 3: eyes at that. But I wonder if I had been
Speaker 3: if I'd seen this episode without having seen going back
Speaker 3: to season one, you and Jason Marsden studying for the SATs,
Speaker 3: if I wouldn't feel that way, if I would just
Speaker 3: be like, oh, this is good storytelling because the sat
Speaker 3: is here actually have a result. We get the number
Speaker 3: like we see it, and it does play well within
Speaker 3: the context that it's just I'm a little exhausted by
Speaker 3: sat talk. Your performance is unbelievable in this world. I
Speaker 3: think I think that you have a lighter touch than
Speaker 3: in other dramatic episodes. It's a dramatic episode, but you
Speaker 3: play it with such a lighter touch. It's really effective.
Speaker 3: And like you said, you're just in it with the
Speaker 3: adults and you're holding your own and like watching you
Speaker 3: when you walk out in the security guard outfit, it
Speaker 3: just gets a laugh. It's just a great It's just great.
Speaker 3: I find the episode really really really sweet. Yeah too sweet,
Speaker 3: Like there's just not enough sour for me. I need
Speaker 3: a little I need a little bit more conflict, a
Speaker 3: little bit more like I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was just it was just like, well, that's it's
Speaker 2: a lot of.
Speaker 3: Sweet moments in a row, like oh yeah, and now
Speaker 3: we're gonna tell Feenie what we think, and now Eric's
Speaker 3: gonna tell a Feenie what he thinks. No, Russy's gonna
Speaker 3: tell Eric what he thinks. And now it's just like, oh,
Speaker 3: gets all.
Speaker 1: And there's just a little bit of minor confrontation between
Speaker 1: Eric and Amy, but we don't really ever see it.
Speaker 1: It's like because he's talking, but you're you know, we
Speaker 1: see Alan say you're not mad at me? No, daddy,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. So the conflict is like, yes,
Speaker 1: but inside roiling, but it's off screen.
Speaker 4: But the other thing, but it's also it's it's again
Speaker 4: like if we're going to nitpicky stuff, it does show
Speaker 4: and they and she was in the episode a lot,
Speaker 4: but maybe a more powerful episode if instead of going
Speaker 4: to Alan and talking to Alan about how he's mad
Speaker 4: at Amy, it's the scenes with Amy, like you know, why,
Speaker 4: why is that not the focus? We've we've established that
Speaker 4: like if it was and again machine wayback machine, all
Speaker 4: the stuff we always talk about, but if we if
Speaker 4: it was still Alan trying to protect him and keeping
Speaker 4: him at the store, and it was Amy who just
Speaker 4: flat out as like, no, he has to go, this
Speaker 4: is now bad.
Speaker 2: He has to go.
Speaker 4: It does add another layer of everything that's kind of
Speaker 4: going on, so I get that. But yeah, overall, I
Speaker 4: thought it was great and I remember, and we'll get
Speaker 4: into it as we get to the especially the opening scene.
Speaker 4: But I remember, especially the opening scene with Rusty and
Speaker 4: us just losing it with the one armed bear trainer
Speaker 4: and how we.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which it was mentioned the one arm bear
Speaker 1: trainer with Rusty when we did the sleepover and I
Speaker 1: thought the real bear trainer had one arm. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize you guys were talking about the show. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me the bear trainer only had
Speaker 1: one arm, And you guys were like yes, And I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the That's one of the craziest
Speaker 1: Hollywood stories I've ever heard. Then there was a bear
Speaker 1: trainer with only one arm. No, no, of the show, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is how Hollywood lawa is birthed.
Speaker 3: Right here, the misunderstanding of what's in scene out of scene,
Speaker 3: and the story gets told and retold.
Speaker 2: Until my cousin knew that the.
Speaker 1: Hospital Danielle was on the show, she would and she
Speaker 1: said that there was a one bear was one, that
Speaker 1: the trainer only had one arm. You guys like you
Speaker 1: was scared.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, exactly how it would be to it's how
Speaker 4: it works works.
Speaker 1: So guest starring Troy Evans, who returns to Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World Now as the Bear Trainer and yes, you recognize
Speaker 1: him as the hilarious Ranger Marker, he says, the pod
Speaker 1: meets world favorite city Slackers. He's a legendary character actor
Speaker 1: with a hey that guy face and credits like a spentcher,
Speaker 1: a pet detective, teen wolf E r and Bosh And
Speaker 1: then the guy you remembered so well Will Chris Eyer
Speaker 1: as Ronnie. He played Nigel on two episodes of Buffy
Speaker 1: and Doctor pran Jeep on four episodes of Two and
Speaker 1: a Half Men. So, jumping into our recap, we are
Speaker 1: in the Wilderness store. There's a line outside to get in.
Speaker 1: Eric explains it's because he called a little lady named
Speaker 1: Hollywood and arranged for all those customers to meet TV's Bear.
Speaker 1: The camera pans to a real grizzly bear sitting in
Speaker 1: the store. This is the first of two bears. I
Speaker 1: have no memory of being on set. Apparently, Alan politely
Speaker 1: whispers to his son what shows he was on. Eric
Speaker 1: guesses Grizzly Adams, gentleman, national geographic. It doesn't matter. He's
Speaker 1: been on TV, which means he's famous and people love that.
Speaker 1: And then a bear trainer walks up to Alan and
Speaker 1: Eric and we see he's missing one of his arms.
Speaker 1: The man would like to discuss the business portion of things,
Speaker 1: as Eric has agreed to pay twenty five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for the bear's appearance. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money, especially in bear money, because
Speaker 2: I can get I can get you a bear right
Speaker 2: now for seven hundred bucks and a great one, really
Speaker 2: so crazy.
Speaker 3: What's the day rate for a set? It's less than that.
Speaker 3: It's not that, it's not that that I mean, but
Speaker 3: it's you. I think it's less than two grand for
Speaker 3: a day. So the bear's, you know, command on a
Speaker 3: salary here.
Speaker 1: So it's a steep price. But Alan assumes these people
Speaker 1: are going to buy enough merchandise to make it worth it.
Speaker 1: The bear handler stops him. Those customers can't come inside
Speaker 1: his TV bear can't be around people. Allan is confused.
Speaker 1: It's a TV bear, isn't it trained? The one armed
Speaker 1: man shouts back, you can't train a bear, Alan forces
Speaker 1: Eric to fix this mess. So Eric brings up the
Speaker 1: fact that this bear was on little house on the prairie.
Speaker 1: The man knowingly tells them, sure, he's great with children,
Speaker 1: so Alan is somewhat relieved. Well, great, then they can
Speaker 1: have the kids come in and play with the bear.
Speaker 1: And then the bear trainer warns them, oh, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. They need another twenty five hundred dollars for
Speaker 1: the female bear as well. Alan is not happy about
Speaker 1: this five thousand dollars mistake. Eric inches his closer to
Speaker 1: the grizzly to assure his dad this is just a gentle,
Speaker 1: meek TV bear, and then the bear stands up on
Speaker 1: his hind legs, looking furious. Eric looks up as if
Speaker 1: he's looking at the bear about to strike, and we
Speaker 1: hear a terrifying roar from just the sound. Eric's hair
Speaker 1: blow's in the wind, and he's screaming at the top
Speaker 1: of his lungs. Alan and the bear handler are screaming
Speaker 1: as well. Eventually, the bear calms and Eric slowly walks away,
Speaker 1: his face still in horror and his hair all messed up.
Speaker 1: We hear the trainer frantically trying to calm the bear
Speaker 1: down and Alan sternly tells his son to get out.
Speaker 1: Eric reminds him he works there, and Alan tells him
Speaker 1: not anymore. Will What do you remember about shooting that
Speaker 1: with the bear?
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember that it wasn't a real bear.
Speaker 4: It was an actor named John Smoles who was actually
Speaker 4: in the costume.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. It was you know it was.
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember committed to that was great.
Speaker 2: He looks realistic. I remember were you know, it's a bear.
Speaker 2: You're sitting there with a bear, and I'm thinking it's
Speaker 2: fun and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And I was just googling because I this is one
Speaker 4: of those Hollywood stories that I had heard over and
Speaker 4: over again that I thought it was the same bear.
Speaker 4: I don't think it is the same bear. But the
Speaker 4: bear then that Will Ferrell wrestles in Semi Pro, which
Speaker 4: wasn't that much later than this four or five years
Speaker 4: killed its trainer on the set. So, I mean, these
Speaker 4: things where the guys like, you can't train a bear.
Speaker 2: Is kind of accurate. You can't. It's at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, it's a bear.
Speaker 4: So they brought him into the Wilderness Store, which again
Speaker 4: they decided to use the set finally, and there.
Speaker 2: Was a full sized bear. And I mean, it looks like,
Speaker 2: unless they've shot it in a way that I haven't
Speaker 2: been able to figure out, it looks like there's a
Speaker 2: bear about three feet from all of us. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there was. Just Hey, this is the bear.
Speaker 2: Have we talked about Barth the Bear on the show?
Speaker 2: I feel like we have. On this podcast we talked
Speaker 2: about Barth the Bear.
Speaker 1: Was it on this podcast or was it just personal?
Speaker 2: That's probably just in our every day of talking.
Speaker 3: So barta bear was like the most famous working bear
Speaker 3: through the nineties, and he was huge, but he was
Speaker 3: trained because he had been raised from a cub with
Speaker 3: his trainer, and he was the only, as far as
Speaker 3: I know, one of the only bears that could wrestle
Speaker 3: with his trainer on camera.
Speaker 2: So Legends of.
Speaker 3: The Fall, the Edge, there's like these classic movies where
Speaker 3: Bart was the go to bear because he was he
Speaker 3: was well trained and he never never killed anybody but
Speaker 3: his trainer. His trainer had worked with him from when
Speaker 3: he was a cub to wrestle the trainer. So whenever
Speaker 3: you see a bear wrestling a person in the late
Speaker 3: nineties with Barth the bear. It's the trainer himself in
Speaker 3: costume doing, you know, stepping in for the actors. But
Speaker 3: as far as I know, that's the only bear that's
Speaker 3: been able to do that on camera or like relar, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we have a bear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure the shot that we get where
Speaker 1: the bear stands on his hind legs and he growls
Speaker 1: and all that, nobody was probably on set for that.
Speaker 1: The trainer camera, you know, isolated and then obviously your
Speaker 1: shot there's really no bay like they they did as
Speaker 1: little with the actual bear as possible, but man, just
Speaker 1: so crazy. Bart the bear too is also dead now
Speaker 1: with a note I got.
Speaker 2: Early adds, I think, wait, so animals.
Speaker 1: Die, You're not going to die?
Speaker 2: Hurry? Am I going to die?
Speaker 3: No? No?
Speaker 1: No, well okay these are adult problems.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can go now.
Speaker 1: So then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Amy reminds Alan
Speaker 1: that this isn't the first time Eric's messed up at
Speaker 1: the store. He's given him enough chances. It was time
Speaker 1: to let him go, and I was like shaming Amy.
Speaker 3: Season four has been like a real, like practical hardcore parent. Yeah, yeah, definitely,
Speaker 3: I mean not like you know, I correctly so in
Speaker 3: some way, you know, like it's al she never it's
Speaker 3: not like she's just being vindictive or that.
Speaker 1: She's done taking exactly.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm finished, I'm finished with this now, I'm.
Speaker 1: You know what my patient's gone.
Speaker 2: Do you think she has a job at this point?
Speaker 2: It's really interesting that they don't know.
Speaker 1: We see her serving food a lot now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like an eighth of a glass.
Speaker 1: Of milk orange.
Speaker 2: She only pours like a little bit.
Speaker 4: I was like, get shots of stuff, yes, okay, But
Speaker 4: now I was wondering that.
Speaker 2: I was like, is she working herself now or I
Speaker 2: don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: She might maybe they make so much money at the
Speaker 1: Wilderness Store. She just helps out at the Wilderness Store
Speaker 1: because she's there later behind the counter, you know, right,
Speaker 1: so maybe she's working there anyway. Morgan's size, I don't
Speaker 1: want you to let Eric go. I love Eric, Alan
Speaker 1: explains Eric's still living with them, he's just no longer
Speaker 1: working at the store.
Speaker 2: Amy did she I'm sorry, did she?
Speaker 4: Did Lindsey look like seriously older this episode to anybody else?
Speaker 2: No? I just noticed her hair was like I know, she.
Speaker 3: Really kind of done up or like it was like
Speaker 3: that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Was older to me, all of a sudden, she's now twelve.
Speaker 1: I noticed the same thing about the hair she had,
Speaker 1: like a it almost looked like an actual natural beach wave,
Speaker 1: like the way your hair really does look if you
Speaker 1: go in the ocean and then come out and let
Speaker 1: it air dry. I thought, this doesn't look like it
Speaker 1: was done with a curling iron. It really has this
Speaker 1: like cool natural wave to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looked older to me. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: she's okay, growing up. They're growing her up. She wasn't
Speaker 2: in the footy pajamas.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Amy hopes their son understands it's just tough love and
Speaker 1: he needs to learn his lesson. Alan assures her he
Speaker 1: made it very clear to Eric he was fired right on. Cute.
Speaker 1: Eric runs down the steps, Come on, daddy, Oh got
Speaker 1: to get to work early. Get that get out that
Speaker 1: bear stink. Amy stops him and asks Eric if he's
Speaker 1: going to work. Eric quickly responds, oh, yeah, put a
Speaker 1: little food on the table, keep you in pretty things.
Speaker 1: Let's go pop. He opens the door to leave, but
Speaker 1: he remembers he forgot one detail. Oh I've got to
Speaker 1: take an early lunch and then not come back at
Speaker 1: all because I met a really nice girl and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a second lunch with her. He laughs and
Speaker 1: nudges Morgan. Working for your dad is so great. Amy
Speaker 1: has seen enough. Eric, you're fired. Eric turns around and
Speaker 1: disregards his mom's comment. Amy doubles down, telling Eric she's serious.
Speaker 1: Eric smiles, you can't file fire me. You're the mama.
Speaker 1: I work for the data. He pats Alan on the back,
Speaker 1: but Alan doesn't respond. Eric's uneasiness begins to show as
Speaker 1: Alan stands up. You really don't help yourself, pal, and
Speaker 1: then he walks out without him leaving.
Speaker 2: I was waiting. I was waiting for you to actually
Speaker 2: quote back to the future here right, dad, Daddy.
Speaker 1: And then we're in the Matthew's living room. Corey, Sewan,
Speaker 1: and Tapanga are hanging out and Topanga is eating a
Speaker 1: whole broccoli because Ioli phil leads apparently.
Speaker 3: Who does that? I was waiting for her to be referend.
Speaker 3: I think probably what happened is they were like, Sean
Speaker 3: should be eating licorice because I'm in the Brad Pitt
Speaker 3: Wilford El School of Acting. Now where it's like, of course, casual,
Speaker 3: don't care, you're sitting here chewing on my liquorice. And
Speaker 3: then they were like what if god eating? It's such
Speaker 3: a visual gag to be like.
Speaker 2: The difference between these two characters. One just thinking ahead
Speaker 2: and being healthy, the other is going.
Speaker 1: For the sugar.
Speaker 2: Why is it? Also? What is it with broccoli? It's
Speaker 2: healthy on our show, right, but no, but then again
Speaker 2: later vergetable tray. I know you're just holding a crown
Speaker 2: of broccoli. I'm saying. Later we have the broccoli poster
Speaker 2: behind Ben Clary Celery right, sor I'm making I don't
Speaker 2: need any that's why. Just go for the liquorice.
Speaker 4: I'm a militarian. Danielle, by the way, loves liquors. Everybody
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 2: I cannot as much licorice as is possible. Your favorite.
Speaker 1: It's the literally the only food you could name or
Speaker 1: mention red licorice. It doesn't matter. It can't beat me
Speaker 1: in the house. It's the only thing.
Speaker 2: What about redes discuss twizzlers? I told you this little matter.
Speaker 1: Those are just like strawberry storage.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh god, she's driving driving in.
Speaker 1: The car, but I okay, driving the car and.
Speaker 4: Just driving in the car and I just hear a
Speaker 4: wrapper being undone, and then i'd hear Jensen, Jensen, is
Speaker 4: that licorice.
Speaker 2: He's like, well, yeah, but it's god, oh god, and
Speaker 2: she has to roll down all the windows in the car.
Speaker 1: And there was a licorice flavored taffy. So we just
Speaker 1: had a bag of taffy and he was just reaching
Speaker 1: his hand in and eating piece after piece after piece,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it just the waft of
Speaker 1: licorice smell, and I was like, is that licorage? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's the only thing. It's the only thing
Speaker 1: I disgusting. Anyway, that's my favorite. So Sean hands Corey
Speaker 1: a note with a list of colleges on it. These
Speaker 1: are the schools he wants to Panga and Corey to
Speaker 1: go to. Even if Sean isn't going, the three of
Speaker 1: them should still be together. Corey reads the first Entry
Speaker 1: University of Italy, good old you of it. Sean nods
Speaker 1: he'll be taking tourists around in his big canoe while
Speaker 1: the two of them are studying hard in school. To
Speaker 1: Panga correct him, it's called Gondola, Sean states, and that's
Speaker 1: why you're going to college. Shawn attempts to leave, but
Speaker 1: Corey stops him. You've worked too long to throw it
Speaker 1: all away. Now, why don't you take the SATs. I
Speaker 1: bet you do really well.
Speaker 2: Two two characters, two characters that.
Speaker 4: Your life is going to be completely ruined if you
Speaker 4: don't take this test and go to college.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do?
Speaker 4: You're gonna end up on the streets alone selling drugs. Yep,
Speaker 4: those are your two options. You go to college, or
Speaker 4: you're a drug dealer. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. Or just a big old loser doing a
Speaker 1: normal job. Yes, like it.
Speaker 2: Like my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Sean siys, and I'll take your test. What's ten minutes
Speaker 1: of my life? Right to Panga is shocked. Ten minutes Sean,
Speaker 1: they take it? Least frantically cuts her off before she
Speaker 1: says too much.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: He encourages Sean to take Phoene's review course so he
Speaker 1: can knock the test out in five. Even Sean's not
Speaker 1: up for it. Too much school and too much Foenie.
Speaker 1: He walks out the door, telling him he's going to
Speaker 1: go canoe shopping, and I hope he's going to the
Speaker 1: Matthew's wilderness.
Speaker 2: You're having a great sale right now. Kind of a
Speaker 2: weak button to the scene. It just ended. The whole
Speaker 2: scene just ended. It was like, oh, I bet you.
Speaker 2: There was another couple lines. I bet you.
Speaker 3: I went out and then Corey and to Panga said something.
Speaker 3: Topanga had a line of it, and for whatever reason
Speaker 3: they cut it for time or it just didn't work.
Speaker 3: But it really felt like a weird out.
Speaker 1: And I was like, ye're right, that is you usually
Speaker 1: want a button to be a hard laugh. And I'm
Speaker 1: going canoe shopping as you wander out, and.
Speaker 3: I was walking on a laugh, which is not what
Speaker 3: you're ever supposed to it. And it's true, you feel it.
Speaker 3: That is the like, because I'm walking, you're waiting for
Speaker 3: something else to happen. You're like, oh, Sean said a joke.
Speaker 3: We can laugh at it, but you the laugh has
Speaker 3: to like it's it's it feels like lead to something
Speaker 3: because I'm moving and I'm walking, and then it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well then we get a little weird transition
Speaker 1: back to the Matthew's kitchen, Alan laments there were so
Speaker 1: many times he should have fired Eric, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: He was too scared to admit he was a lousy
Speaker 1: boss or worse, a lousy father. Amy scoffs, how could
Speaker 1: you look at Corey and Morgan and think you're anything
Speaker 1: but the best father? Again, harsh thing to say.
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean just wow. You just found out you.
Speaker 4: Had this kid like half a season ago, and now
Speaker 4: you're already just kicking him to the curb.
Speaker 1: Well, and like, you know, it's such a my, it's
Speaker 1: such a weird thing to think as a parent that
Speaker 1: your whether or not you have done well as a
Speaker 1: parent is determined by one characteristic, which is is your
Speaker 1: kid smart? Like, is your kid classically smart in the
Speaker 1: sense of gonna go to college and then quote unquote
Speaker 1: be successful, and that if that's if that's not the case,
Speaker 1: if even let's say Eric was lazy, doesn't like school,
Speaker 1: isn't the way we think of classically smart. Man, I
Speaker 1: really failed as a parent as opposed to all the
Speaker 1: other things we are supposed to be instilling in our kids.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, Well, in the Phoenie conversation later, it was
Speaker 3: interesting to me, you know that he Alan is seeking
Speaker 3: reassurance that Eric is actually good at school, is actually smart,
Speaker 3: And I feel like that it's an opportunity to say,
Speaker 3: there are different types of intelligence, different types of like
Speaker 3: if you actually think about it, finding a bear, getting
Speaker 3: it from Hollywood to Philadelphia, like.
Speaker 2: Inventive, that's an inventive.
Speaker 3: And of course Eric is incredibly witty, uh like he
Speaker 3: was witty and your kids, But that could also just
Speaker 3: be another option in life, right, But instead it's just well,
Speaker 3: then he could also take the SATs. He could will
Speaker 3: fit this already predetermined notion of intelligence and evaluation.
Speaker 2: So it seems like a missed opportunity. And I agree in.
Speaker 1: Terms of and in terms of what a wonderful person
Speaker 1: Eric is. If you look at the three kids, I mean,
Speaker 1: one is clearly more like a better person than the
Speaker 1: other two I don't know, like snarky and like and
Speaker 1: like you guys are self.
Speaker 3: Obsessed and erotic, and Eric just gives him himself. And
Speaker 3: Eric's just giving and funny and entertaining that he won't.
Speaker 1: Take the SATs. So Alan says, then why is he
Speaker 1: having such a difficult time with Eric. It's not like
Speaker 1: he did anything different with him. Amy reminds him, we
Speaker 1: did everything different. We coddled him. Alan says, Eric is
Speaker 1: different from their other kids. He needs to be protected.
Speaker 1: Amy wonders, would you be willing to listen to someone
Speaker 1: else's opinion and not overreact? Alan looks at her suspiciously,
Speaker 1: and then we get an optical flip. And I do
Speaker 1: like this part, the idea that at what did I
Speaker 1: do differently? And it's just the age old question nature
Speaker 1: versus nurture. My mom says, for sure, she had to
Speaker 1: raise my brother and I differently. My brother was much
Speaker 1: more sensitive and didn't take took any sort of took
Speaker 1: everything as criticism instead of and I had a much
Speaker 1: thicker skin, and I talk back and my mom had
Speaker 1: to be a little harsher with me. But she couldn't
Speaker 1: talk the same way to my brother that she was
Speaker 1: able to, you know, So she just she knew she
Speaker 1: had to adjust. And I like that idea of being
Speaker 1: like somebody pointing out to you that, no, you may think, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm the person that I am, I must do
Speaker 1: the same things with everyone I know, But no, you've
Speaker 1: probably done different things and that could lead to different outcomes.
Speaker 4: It's also I mean, I think by the time your
Speaker 4: first child, from what I've heard, I've had friends that
Speaker 4: are like, oh, our first kid, you know you drive
Speaker 4: home from the hospital at five miles an hour.
Speaker 2: You think the kids made of glassed or like.
Speaker 4: By the third or fourth kid, you're like, they're with
Speaker 4: a babysitter, their fourth day, their home when you're out
Speaker 4: of dinner, like you get there, they're fine, They're going
Speaker 4: to be so of course you're gonna, I mean, anything
Speaker 4: you do more than once, you're going to do differently.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's just so absolutely. And then we're outside of
Speaker 1: Phoenie's house, a turtle necked and cardigan. Phoenie states the
Speaker 1: obvious Eric is lazy. Alan gets in his face, that's
Speaker 1: my son you're talking about. Corey appears and addresses Phoene
Speaker 1: the reason I signed up for your SAT prep courses
Speaker 1: to prep, possibly even review. He then flips through a
Speaker 1: gigantic prep book. But you've gone way beyond that, haven't you.
Speaker 1: Phoene crosses his arms. Too much work for you, mister Matthews.
Speaker 1: Corey responds, Oh, I'll do it. I'm not afraid of you.
Speaker 1: You remember that while I'm in the kitchen working and
Speaker 1: watching you. He walks away without breaking eye contact with Phoenie.
Speaker 1: Amy apologizes their son should not be talking to him
Speaker 1: like that. Phoenie assures her, No, No, I like his determination.
Speaker 1: Corey works hard for his grades despite just the other
Speaker 1: week on a quiz show episode where he was a
Speaker 1: certified slacker and a dumb dumb.
Speaker 2: Ni He also, are they insinuating they seem to do
Speaker 2: this several times that in a way a Feenie wrote
Speaker 2: the s a T prep book. I know, because they're
Speaker 2: always like in your course, Phoenie, and it's like that's
Speaker 2: everybody's a saty pep book. It's like standardized. That's the
Speaker 2: whole point point of it.
Speaker 1: I know, because later when he wants to flip there,
Speaker 1: let me see that as if he wrote the questions himself.
Speaker 1: It is interesting. Uh so, Alan wonders, and Eric Peoene replies,
Speaker 1: Eric could get passing grades in his sleep. In fact,
Speaker 1: he did, which is a shame because I'd be hard
Speaker 1: pressed to come up with a handful of students who
Speaker 1: are brighter, wittier, or smarter than Eric. So there was
Speaker 1: also that time that Eric's brain activity was more stagnant
Speaker 1: than a rats but.
Speaker 3: More active, No more stagnant, right, yes, I think that's
Speaker 3: what they're referring to, was that he did in his sleep.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and he does say that he actually slept through.
Speaker 1: You know, whenever Amy feels vindicated, see Alan, Eric is smart,
Speaker 1: which proves we haven't been too hard on him. He
Speaker 1: is capable of reaching their expectations. Just then, Eric walks
Speaker 1: outside wearing a full on security guard uniform. Alan asks
Speaker 1: why he's wearing a costume, and Eric clarifies he's found
Speaker 1: his calling law enforcement. Alan a shock. You took a
Speaker 1: job as a security guard. Amy asks why would you
Speaker 1: possibly want to do that? And Eric lifts off his
Speaker 1: ten reasons talking. I mean, it's this smious one walkie talkie,
Speaker 1: two partner, three dog, four partner sometimes they switch partners.
Speaker 1: Five Do you want me to keep going? Six? I
Speaker 1: pack heat your time? Maybe?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's one of those things you write.
Speaker 3: You look at the script, you go, can we pull
Speaker 3: this off? And then somebody like Will does it and
Speaker 3: you're like, just keep.
Speaker 1: Going, exactly how many more can we to this guy?
Speaker 2: It's so brilliant. I would also like to point out
Speaker 2: that Eric got fired yesterday, has a new job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so capable about not lazy.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Also you're talking about getting a bear. It's not lazy
Speaker 1: calling Hollywood finding the bear, getting in touch with the bear,
Speaker 1: getting the bear on there.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Now, Amy gasps, you carry a gun. Eric clarifies, nope,
Speaker 1: a heater gets cold out there in the shed.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 1: Eric doesn't understand what they want from him. He got fired,
Speaker 1: so he got another job? Valid question?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Eric tries to get help from his dad, but Alan
Speaker 1: takes Amy's side on this. They're tired of him taking
Speaker 1: the easy way out. From now on, the free ride
Speaker 1: is over. Eric needs some help here. He asks Foene
Speaker 1: if he thinks he's taking the easy way out. Phoene says,
Speaker 1: oh God, not another question, Yes, Eric, I do. Eric
Speaker 1: realizes he's defeated, although he'd love to stay in debate.
Speaker 1: He's late for work. But before he leaves, one more thing,
Speaker 1: don't wait up for me tonight. I won't be coming home.
Speaker 1: I'm moving out. And then he casually swings his baton
Speaker 1: as he walks away. So question, is he going to
Speaker 1: be looking for apartments all night like overnight? Is that
Speaker 1: why he can't come home? Uh? Is he? When's he planning?
Speaker 1: He has to come back to move out unless he's stuff.
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 4: He makes a lot of declarative statements that may not
Speaker 4: really be able to be backed up that quickly, right,
Speaker 4: But but you.
Speaker 2: Know he's stand stand firm, stand in firm with it.
Speaker 1: I liked the idea. And by the way, you don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about me for much longer. I'm moving out.
Speaker 1: It's more about like, don't wait up for me tonight.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you going to be doing in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I'm a little concerned.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to I've the night shift. That John
Speaker 2: Adams the night shift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So then we're in the John
Speaker 1: Adams hallway. Corey and Tapanga are studying their s a
Speaker 1: T prep book, and Corey spots Sean headed their way.
Speaker 1: He cues Tapanga and she says, very loudly, Okay, Corey,
Speaker 1: give me another one of those tough sat questions. Corey warns,
Speaker 1: or this one's a doozy. It kept him up most
Speaker 1: of the night. Shawn's listening as Corey reads which of
Speaker 1: these ingredients does not help you make mud, dirt, water,
Speaker 1: or turkey. Sean walks over to them curiously and answers
Speaker 1: turkey turkey. Corey, he says, correct, and Ta Panga pretends
Speaker 1: to be in awe. I didn't even know that one.
Speaker 1: Sean's confused that came from Phoene's prep course. Corey confirms
Speaker 1: it was well, one of the tougher ones. Phoene's been
Speaker 1: nearby listening to the entire conversation. He asks to see
Speaker 1: this question. Corey points out it's right beneath the question,
Speaker 1: which is sweeter, sugar or salt. Sean answers again, sugar.
Speaker 1: Tapega congratulates him. Wow, two in a row. Phoene fumbles
Speaker 1: around for his glasses. What is going on? Corey explains,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to show Sean that through your review course,
Speaker 1: a student builds a certain level of confidence through a
Speaker 1: series of not quite questions. Sean excitedly asks, is it
Speaker 1: really this basic? Phoene admits, I don't want anyone misleading you.
Speaker 1: My prep course involves a lot of hard work. Sean shrugs, well,
Speaker 1: and I want to do it. Corey adds, but it's
Speaker 1: fun to Panga encourages mister Phoene to tell Sean all
Speaker 1: about the carnival like atmosphere of his prep course so
Speaker 1: Sean will join. Corey takes him aside.
Speaker 2: And I love this.
Speaker 3: This whole What follows is just I mean, it's a
Speaker 3: perfect setup for SNI. I love Phoenie under pressure, and
Speaker 3: this episode has a couple like Phoenie under pressure is
Speaker 3: so fun. And to see him do this calculation and
Speaker 3: then this run for the rest of the same bill's performance,
Speaker 3: I mean, god, it's it's it's it's broad and big
Speaker 3: and yet entirely believable and well delivered, and it's so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that we see that Phoenie trying
Speaker 1: to come up with what is.
Speaker 2: Fun yes, and just not knowing there's not.
Speaker 1: Really knowing Cake And the fact that Cake is a
Speaker 1: runner in our show is so strange but wonderful, and
Speaker 1: you know what, so much So I love that.
Speaker 4: I love what Phoenie's gonna do. I've seen him do
Speaker 4: it before. It's phenomenal, it's amazing. But you know what,
Speaker 4: I loved even more about this scene. I loved seeing
Speaker 4: finally Corey and Topanga working together as like a team,
Speaker 4: pulling a caper themselves. I want to see this fifty
Speaker 4: times during the show, and we're finally getting that that.
Speaker 2: Relationship between the two of them. Sean's involved. So I
Speaker 2: loved seeing Phoenix Coy was great, but think about great
Speaker 2: the super Bowl up, the super Bowl coming.
Speaker 3: It's definitely to Penga hygiene. That is a big one.
Speaker 3: So I think we're gonna get more of this, I.
Speaker 2: Think, I hope.
Speaker 3: So maybe they've settled down on the love stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: so that Topanga can just.
Speaker 2: Be part of the crew now. Yeeah, you're right. It's
Speaker 2: so cool.
Speaker 4: I loved that about the scene. It's like, oh, they're
Speaker 4: working together, they're doing.
Speaker 2: All this, like that's what. I love.
Speaker 1: The faces while Bill is doing his thing. Yes, seeing
Speaker 1: our faces looking at each other, like all right, yeah
Speaker 1: it is. It's so much fun.
Speaker 4: It was finally another level, finally another level of relationship.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: Loved everything about this, loved all of us working with Bill.
Speaker 1: Just just so much fun.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So Corey takes Phoene aside. If Sean doesn't get into college,
Speaker 1: he starts washing windows, playing lotto. Then he loses his tea,
Speaker 1: becomes a ward of the state and moves in with
Speaker 1: you no SATs moves on the touthless and then Phoene
Speaker 1: racks his brain. Well if I tell him about the cake,
Speaker 1: well then everyone will want to take the class and
Speaker 1: again the return of cake. I'm just so excited about
Speaker 1: it and excited, Sean asks cake. Phoene nods, it's delicious
Speaker 1: cake actually from the Westchester Bakery. That's where they get
Speaker 1: the cake.
Speaker 3: Sean is intrigued, like just having to be created under pressure,
Speaker 3: not like they get the cake.
Speaker 2: He's just rambling and it doesn't even.
Speaker 1: Say what else, and he realizes.
Speaker 2: He has to keep goings.
Speaker 1: Not enough, I have to I didn't I thought I
Speaker 1: was going to be done. He continues, Well, we have
Speaker 1: a talent show some.
Speaker 2: Nights, some nights, and Sean is loving this this.
Speaker 1: Why didn't he know about it? Phoene butts back in,
Speaker 1: Well between the hooplaw there will be learning going on.
Speaker 1: Sean blows him off. Yeah yeah, cake right, Phoene says, yes, cake.
Speaker 1: Sean happily walks away, and Corey thanks him he did
Speaker 1: the right thing. Phoene shrugs. I suppose. I suppose, after all,
Speaker 1: what good is it if you can't get the butts
Speaker 1: in the seats. So then we're back in the Wilderness
Speaker 1: store and Alan is tagging items when Eric slyly walks
Speaker 1: in uniformed up and he's brought a fellow security guard
Speaker 1: with him. He awkwardly asks his dad, in a while,
Speaker 1: hasn't it Alan responds about twelve hours. Eric shrugs, seems
Speaker 1: longer when you're on your own. He introduces his partner,
Speaker 1: Ronnie Patel, to Alan. Ronnie compliments Alan on the store.
Speaker 1: He hopes to own his own business one day too.
Speaker 1: Ronnie is letting Eric crash at his place. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be roomies. Ronnie admits he knows about the family crisis.
Speaker 1: He's sorry to hear about the mother going insane and
Speaker 1: throwing people out of the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted this to be a little bigger, Like
Speaker 3: I wanted the story like the story that he spun,
Speaker 3: and I also just it it's it's an interesting story
Speaker 3: point that Eric blames Amy even though it was clearly
Speaker 3: driven by Alan, right, And like, yeah, I think there
Speaker 3: could have been a little bit more on that, like
Speaker 3: a little more expansion of like the the you know,
Speaker 3: blame factor, Like why does he write why?
Speaker 2: But a little bit? But I want to be.
Speaker 4: Another strange runner for the show though, because Corey blamed
Speaker 4: Amy when he didn't support she seemingly didn't support the
Speaker 4: conversation with Japan, So why is the blame always tend
Speaker 4: to go on Amy, Right. Yeah, it's very strange where
Speaker 4: it's just kind of like, all right, well, no, you
Speaker 4: were fine, Alan, But Amy, it's like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: I will say that I did think right to your
Speaker 1: point that I thought. This episode actually did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job of explaining this in the way that Alan
Speaker 1: is saying, Listen, i know why you're mad at your
Speaker 1: mom because I've always been the play shover basically, even
Speaker 1: though I'm the one you screwed over technically, even though
Speaker 1: it's a family business, but whatever, it was me who
Speaker 1: you put in the position of having to pay a
Speaker 1: bear trainer five thousand dollars. And even though I said
Speaker 1: to you you don't work here anymore, the only reason
Speaker 1: you felt comfortable the next morning waking up and saying,
Speaker 1: come on, dad, let's go to the store is because
Speaker 1: anytime in the past I've tried to put my foot down,
Speaker 1: you've barrel ran over me, and I've allowed it because
Speaker 1: I'm wearing these gloves, I keep protecting you. And so
Speaker 1: it's such a good speech and it really felt very
Speaker 1: much to me in that moment where I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel the Matthew nelsonness of this script, which like
Speaker 1: I feel this, I feel the Matthew Nelson theme, and
Speaker 1: so I actually thought that was that ended up being
Speaker 1: pretty clear about your mom's the one who when she
Speaker 1: says something, you know to take her seriously for some reason,
Speaker 1: not for some reason. The reason why you don't take
Speaker 1: it seriously when I say it is because I have
Speaker 1: been using these kid gloves with you. I've allowed you
Speaker 1: to walk all over me because I feel they need
Speaker 1: to protect you. So I kind of I kind of
Speaker 1: liked that part.
Speaker 3: I just I like the exaggeration of like mom is
Speaker 3: Mom's crazy, and I wanted that to be a bigger thing,
Speaker 3: Like I wanted that to be a runner that keeps going.
Speaker 3: And then in the scene with Amy have even more
Speaker 3: details tumbling out of like how Eric misinterpret or took
Speaker 3: Amy's like pretty much normal mother aid and made it
Speaker 3: into this like she's a crazy, hysterical woman and because
Speaker 3: that does happen, right, and like the sexism inherent, and
Speaker 3: that is interesting to me, And like we didn't really
Speaker 3: go there, and.
Speaker 2: I think we could have.
Speaker 3: I mean, we just don't have time, of course, But
Speaker 3: I just like that because I do think people do
Speaker 3: that especially back then, you would be like, mom's nuts,
Speaker 3: girlfriend's mad.
Speaker 2: She went, you know, and it's like, well is she
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Because later Eric does say my mom's not insane, when
Speaker 1: really the truth would have been that he'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know it is, No, she's not. She's still baddy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is. So Eric tells Ronnie to
Speaker 1: check out the store. Wants to confirm Eric is mad
Speaker 1: at Amy, but he's not mad at him. Eric agrees.
Speaker 1: Alan admits, you should be mad at me because as
Speaker 1: much as you messed up, I messed up even more.
Speaker 1: I should have fired you a million times. Eric tells
Speaker 1: his dad to ease up. They're friends. Alan says he's
Speaker 1: a goof off. Eric frowns, well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be friends with you anymore. Alan doesn't hold back. Do
Speaker 1: you know when I really started messing up? The day
Speaker 1: you were born? Alan remembers being in the delivery room.
Speaker 1: Eric admits the only thing he remembers is the cute
Speaker 1: nurse who slapped him on the tushi. Alan says that
Speaker 1: in the delivery room he was told to put on
Speaker 1: gloves to be safe, and when Eric came out moaning
Speaker 1: and groaning as he still does. He checked all of
Speaker 1: his fingers and toes and made sure he was healthy,
Speaker 1: which made Alan happy. But then Alan had a realization.
Speaker 1: It's twenty years later and he's never taken off those gloves.
Speaker 1: It's not Amy's fault or Feoene's fault, it's his. And
Speaker 1: that's the moment when I was like Matt now Elson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Nelson. It's a sweet trap. Great analogy, Yep, great.
Speaker 1: Analogy, Eric saying all he did was love him. Alan agrees.
Speaker 1: He still loves Eric and he loves his other kids,
Speaker 1: but since Eric was the firstborn, he loved him differently.
Speaker 1: He lets Eric take advantage of him without preparing him
Speaker 1: for the real world. He let Eric take advantage of
Speaker 1: him without preparing him for the real world. Alan questions
Speaker 1: what will happen with Eric when he's not around someday?
Speaker 1: And we get some very dramatic strings and Eric ponders
Speaker 1: this worry, and then we're in John Adams High Eric
Speaker 1: and Ronnie are on the beat, walking with a non
Speaker 1: mandatory guard dog that Eric thought would be a good
Speaker 1: backup for the rough and rowdy John Adams High School.
Speaker 1: It's a cute.
Speaker 2: Beagle amazing dog, no point in being there whatsoever. And
Speaker 2: we had an animal. They were like, we could probably
Speaker 2: get a dog for half fime. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: I mean, if they're in there anyway, they're probably like,
Speaker 4: what else you got in the truck?
Speaker 2: Great, bring the dog, because there's literally have been what happened.
Speaker 3: They might have just been like, oh, you know, the
Speaker 3: animal trainer also has this dog in the truck, so
Speaker 3: let's just write a whole scene for that, Yeah.
Speaker 1: A scene where Eric has a guard dog. And it's yeah, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 4: Because there's no point in it means nothing, there's no
Speaker 4: point whatsoever. It's a cute little aside like, oh, and
Speaker 4: by the way, I have this little dog, and that's it.
Speaker 2: So I think you're right.
Speaker 4: It was just it's like, oh, it's in the trunk,
Speaker 4: so let's just go grab it.
Speaker 1: He needs some air anyway, he.
Speaker 2: Needs Let him out, Let the dog out.
Speaker 1: Ronnie doesn't think the dog is very threatening, and Eric
Speaker 1: proves him right by talking to poppy Seed in a
Speaker 1: Baby boys. Ronnie asks if Eric's mom is back from
Speaker 1: the insane. Eric breaks it to him that his mom
Speaker 1: isn't actually insane and asks if he can just keep
Speaker 1: that between them. While the boys wait around for trouble,
Speaker 1: Ronnie asks Eric if he can help him with his studies. Apparently,
Speaker 1: Ronnie is looking to get into college, so he's preparing
Speaker 1: for the entrance exam. Eric's confused. He thought Ronnie was
Speaker 1: an engineer back home. Ronnie says he was, but since
Speaker 1: he's moved here, it's time for him to start over
Speaker 1: and try something new. Eric's flabbergasted. Ronnie wants to go
Speaker 1: to college for a second time. Ronnie explains anything of
Speaker 1: value is worth that hard work. He points out that
Speaker 1: in this country there are so many opportunities. He uses
Speaker 1: Eric as an example, fulfilling his dream of being a
Speaker 1: security guard. Eric questions, you think this is my dream?
Speaker 1: Ronnie nods, well, sure you're doing it. Eric gets defensive,
Speaker 1: pointing out that Ronnie also has this job, but Ronnie
Speaker 1: shakes his head. No, I'm an engineer and soon they
Speaker 1: will know it.
Speaker 2: Now this was okay. So I really liked this scene.
Speaker 2: I I like the guy.
Speaker 4: I love the message of because we hear about this
Speaker 4: all the time. You know, a hard working immigrant comes
Speaker 4: to this country, there's somebody in their own country and
Speaker 4: they have to start over here.
Speaker 2: I mean, you hear it constantly.
Speaker 4: The one problem I had with kind of the entire episode,
Speaker 4: and actually Eric's entire arc, is I don't know if
Speaker 4: anybody ever asks Eric what he wants? Right, Nobody ever
Speaker 4: says what is your dream? What do you want? We're
Speaker 4: telling you you have to go to college, You're thinking
Speaker 4: you're lazy, maybe you want to be a security guard,
Speaker 4: you get the world at your feet?
Speaker 2: What do you want? And I don't think that ever happens.
Speaker 3: Right because the answer would probably be too complicated for
Speaker 3: the show, right because because if the answer is I
Speaker 3: don't know, then it opens up the possibility that maybe
Speaker 3: you don't need to go to college. If the answer
Speaker 3: is I want to be a you know, birthday clown
Speaker 3: for birthday parties, everyone would be like, well, then just
Speaker 3: go do that, right, you know? But they really needed
Speaker 3: to channel everything into the SATs.
Speaker 4: So I would just have loved the sum scene of
Speaker 4: somebody saying what it should have been FIENI at some
Speaker 4: point going Eric, what do you want to do?
Speaker 2: And then they figure out whatever, you know, whatever the
Speaker 2: answer is could have still led to absolutely.
Speaker 1: So they do think the idea was you figure out
Speaker 1: what you want to do in college you go to
Speaker 1: college to figure out what is.
Speaker 3: Also a good answer, Well that could have been the
Speaker 3: answered then, like if Eric just says I don't know,
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, college is a great way to
Speaker 3: find fit, yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, or even if it's just like you know, well,
Speaker 4: the only thing I ever really, ever wanted to be
Speaker 4: in my life was a weather man.
Speaker 2: It's okay, well that's how you do it.
Speaker 4: This is like, you know, this, this is your step forward.
Speaker 4: It would it would have just been nice to have
Speaker 4: somebody ask Eric what he wanted, which just never happened.
Speaker 1: Good point. Well, then we hear a wrestling from the
Speaker 1: side of the school. Eric panics and he tries to
Speaker 1: get poppy Seed to help. It's Feenie. They both scream
Speaker 1: when they see each other. Eric explains he needs to
Speaker 1: go buy the book.
Speaker 3: You were like looking right at Phoenie, sneaking up on
Speaker 3: him from a foot away.
Speaker 2: What's that? What's that? You're like, well, you see, it's
Speaker 2: a human being.
Speaker 1: The fact that he didn't cross in front of camera.
Speaker 1: We know he came facing you, and so you would
Speaker 1: have seen or felt a person come up. He didn't
Speaker 1: just pop up from the ground. But you know, listen, you.
Speaker 4: Never know, you never never know the blood of all
Speaker 4: his victims has serious powers exactly.
Speaker 1: So Eric clears his throat, So what are you doing
Speaker 1: at John Adams High School after hours? Phoene size he's
Speaker 1: there for his SAT prep course and from the hotbed
Speaker 1: of criminal activity raging out here, I think your time
Speaker 1: would be better spent inside with us. Eric responds, take
Speaker 1: the class. No, I don't think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Phoene asks Eric what he's afraid of, and Eric says
Speaker 1: he's not afraid of anything. But PHOENI knows that's not true,
Speaker 1: and this thing Eric is afraid of is stopping him
Speaker 1: from becoming what they all know he's capable of. So yeah,
Speaker 1: interesting point will that they don't ever ask him what
Speaker 1: he wants, but they do ask him the deep question
Speaker 1: of what are you afraid of? They know there's something
Speaker 1: more going on, but they haven't actually said, like, what
Speaker 1: do you want?
Speaker 2: It's also the way what are you afraid of?
Speaker 4: Is like everyone knows this is right for you, right
Speaker 4: except you, And it's like, well maybe it's not right.
Speaker 4: I mean again, yeah, we can talk about that forever,
Speaker 4: but it's yeah, strange.
Speaker 1: So Eric is always hearing the phrase what you're capable
Speaker 1: of and he's sick of it. He took the essay
Speaker 1: teas last year and he blew them. He's just not
Speaker 1: meant to be in college. Phoene counters, maybe you're just
Speaker 1: someone who gives up to easily. What'll it be, mister Matthews,
Speaker 1: who are you? And then more sad music begins to
Speaker 1: play as Eric's partner goes back to working on his
Speaker 1: SAT prep book, helping cement that the SATs are the
Speaker 1: most important thing that has ever existed in the world,
Speaker 1: in the world. And then we're inside John Adams. Eric
Speaker 1: gazes into Poenie's classroom with even sadder music playing. He's
Speaker 1: watching mister Foenie teach the prep course. Eric takes out
Speaker 1: an SAT prep book of his own and apparently can
Speaker 1: hear everything through the closed window.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: As he watches the class, he notices Sean in the
Speaker 1: back happily eating a slice of cake.
Speaker 2: Eating cakes. Best joke of the show, by the way,
Speaker 2: just like you see Sean eating cake, thrill my god,
Speaker 2: You're like, yep, this is so great, went out and
Speaker 2: actually bought cake.
Speaker 3: It could have been a whole epis the whole separate
Speaker 3: storyline of like Corey into Panga having to procure the
Speaker 3: cake for and then we got to do a talent show.
Speaker 2: Like what you guys do for your talent? Sean tap
Speaker 2: dancing for everyone.
Speaker 1: Is like, how why are you doing? Corey sees his
Speaker 1: brother outside and smiles, and then we're outside Phoene's house.
Speaker 1: Corey bangs on Phoene's door, with Sewan and Tapanga behind him.
Speaker 1: Phoene's surprised to see them as Corey yells, We've got
Speaker 1: a few issues to discuss with you. Shawn shouts yeah.
Speaker 1: To Panga jumps in, we just came from taking our
Speaker 1: SATs and Shawn shouts again yeah. Phoene asks, how did
Speaker 1: you do? Shawn shouts yeah, yeah. Corey is on a
Speaker 1: mission for years. You've driven us nuts by filling our
Speaker 1: heads with dates and ideas and numbers and concepts to
Speaker 1: Panga picks up where he left off and with the
Speaker 1: last three weeks of that course of yours, drilling us,
Speaker 1: pushing us to the edge, and Seawan adds, yeah, and
Speaker 1: making me eat cake. He pats his tummy. He's gained
Speaker 1: five pounds right here, baby. Corey concludes, and now that
Speaker 1: it's all over, and we taken the test. We had
Speaker 1: to come here and tell you to your face. Sean says, sincerely,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, man. Corey admits, we understand why you
Speaker 1: pushed us so hard to Panga tells him, we're really
Speaker 1: glad you did. They all give Feenie a warm smile
Speaker 1: as they walk away. Phoenie couldn't be prouder. And then
Speaker 1: we're at the Wilderness Store. Amy is at the counter
Speaker 1: and proving that you definitely have to wear plaid if
Speaker 1: you work at the Wilderness Store of blaid shirt.
Speaker 2: And so is the uniform has to be done.
Speaker 1: Eric approaches her and asks if she fired him. She
Speaker 1: says she did. He admits that I deserve to be
Speaker 1: fired because she loves him, and he knows it must
Speaker 1: have been really hard to fire her son. Next, Eric
Speaker 1: points to Alan, and you said something wrong to me.
Speaker 1: Alan looks at Amy. I was the good guy in
Speaker 1: all this, and you turned it around, didn't you. He
Speaker 1: smiles and gives her a kiss. Good for you. Eric
Speaker 1: tells him you said there would come a time where
Speaker 1: you weren't going to be around anymore, and that's not so.
Speaker 1: I remember everything you taught me and I'm going to
Speaker 1: teach that to my children, so you're always going to
Speaker 1: be around and again, Maddie Nelson, I just feel it.
Speaker 1: Felt it very much there. Alan genuinely thanks him. Eric
Speaker 1: remembers one of the things Alan tought him was that
Speaker 1: he could be anything he wanted to be. He asks
Speaker 1: his dad if he still believes that. Alan nods, yes,
Speaker 1: I do, if you don't take the easy way out
Speaker 1: and try as hard as you can. Eric hopes his
Speaker 1: dad is right, because he did try as hard as
Speaker 1: he could. He slaps an envelope down on the counter,
Speaker 1: and Amy realizes it's his essat score. Eric thought they
Speaker 1: should all open it together. His parents look at the score,
Speaker 1: and Amy says, it's a good thing you're not working
Speaker 1: for your father anymore, or I'd have to fire you.
Speaker 1: He got an eleven twenty. That's two hundred points higher
Speaker 1: than last time. Eric is in shock. Alan ecstatically tells
Speaker 1: him a little semi out of character, I am so
Speaker 1: proud of you. I knew you could do it. This
Speaker 1: is the happiest I've seen Alan in any scene in
Speaker 1: any point of going.
Speaker 4: Kind of catching Rusty's voice got me, and it was
Speaker 4: just as a great great moment.
Speaker 1: Eric smiles. I knew I could do it too. He
Speaker 1: and Alan give each other a big high five, and
Speaker 1: the shot freezes on the three of them looking over joyed,
Speaker 1: and I got emotional.
Speaker 2: Yep, me too.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I really did well up. And then
Speaker 1: we're at the tag outside of Phoenie's house. Here it is.
Speaker 1: Did you remember this was the moment?
Speaker 2: No, no idea, but this is like, this is not
Speaker 2: the moment, guys, it's still this is already he's already done.
Speaker 1: No, he's never yelled at this high of a pitch
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 2: No, yes, he is. We could go back. It's that
Speaker 2: other episode he did exactly. It's he hasn't extended the
Speaker 2: name yet. It's just I think maybe I did with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think of the Phoenie call as just being
Speaker 1: the extension of the name. That's that's it at the
Speaker 1: at its height, for sure. But like, this is so
Speaker 1: clearly the call, the Phoenie call. There's no the other
Speaker 1: ones have felt like, ooh, I could see how this
Speaker 1: led to the Phoenie call. But this feels like this
Speaker 1: is the first Phoenie call. And then the other ones,
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you just think it's just the extension.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: If they ask Will to do the Phoenie call at
Speaker 3: a convention and he goes better, that's not what they're
Speaker 3: asking for.
Speaker 2: If he goes that's it, sir.
Speaker 1: That one is definitely I think the peak. But I
Speaker 1: don't know that to me still isn't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I still call.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I disagree with you. This is a sideyard, backyard.
Speaker 3: Uh, this is the toddler toddler Phoenie call. It still
Speaker 3: has yet to grow.
Speaker 1: So we're outside Phoene's house. Eric is standing outside and
Speaker 1: he yells mister Phoenie a couple of times, but he
Speaker 1: gets no response. He yells it at the top of
Speaker 1: his lungs in a high pitched voice, for wherever, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, changing the trajectory of boy meets world. In response,
Speaker 1: mister Phoene comes stumbling out of his house looking like
Speaker 1: a dishevelled Hugh Hefner Eric. Eric greets him, Hi, it's
Speaker 1: me Eric, What are you doing right now? Phoene explains
Speaker 1: he was sleeping. It's something he's gotten accustomed to in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: The middle of the night.
Speaker 1: Eric tells him to get dressed, Phoene shouts, are you crazy?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Eric nods, confirming he is, but he's got a book
Speaker 1: of colleges and he needs help picking out a good one.
Speaker 1: Phoene pats him on the shoulder. First thing in the morning,
Speaker 1: we'll go a college pickin'. Eric really needs his help.
Speaker 1: Now those spaces are filling up fast. Eric asks about Penbrook.
Speaker 1: Phoene tells him that's a really great I know, and
Speaker 1: we know from Jeff Sherman he said he named Penry yep.
Speaker 1: Phoene tells him that's a really great school. Eric asks
Speaker 1: how about Harvard? Any good? The audience lets out a
Speaker 1: big laugh, and Phene realizes this boy does need his help.
Speaker 1: He tells Eric to put the coffee on and he'll
Speaker 1: meet him in the kitchen. Eric begins to walk away,
Speaker 1: but he stops himself. I heard you told my parents
Speaker 1: you thought I was smart. Feenie nods and Eric says,
Speaker 1: just knowing you said that was worth about one thousand
Speaker 1: s A t points and I welled up again, and
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: Now. See for me, it's like we've had three scenes
Speaker 2: of just sweetness. Like just the entire last ten minutes
Speaker 2: of this episode have just been and now we're gonna
Speaker 2: express an't right for one another. And it's just a
Speaker 2: look I want.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on.
Speaker 2: Since the cake, it's just been all sweet.
Speaker 1: The cakes in the cake.
Speaker 2: Want you see cake on.
Speaker 3: The screen, It's all sugar for the rest of the episode,
Speaker 3: I wanted a little more.
Speaker 1: They both give each other a smile, and that is
Speaker 1: our show. I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2: Another great one for season four.
Speaker 1: Gosh, really, I really enjoyed it. I know writer wants
Speaker 1: there to be some, you know something.
Speaker 2: Some some to the door because it's fall upstairs. He's
Speaker 2: heard himself just going through the episode. Now it's like
Speaker 2: it's Bill's biggest part maybe all it's so great and
Speaker 2: he is and of course a legend.
Speaker 1: Join us all for our next episode, recap it You'll
Speaker 1: be Season four, episode twenty one, a little episode called
Speaker 1: cult fiction.
Speaker 2: Oh here we are people.
Speaker 4: This is a big episode for Ann like a number
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Speaker 1: It originally aired April twenty fifth, nineteen ninety seven. As always,
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