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Speaker 4: No, my parents told me I am going to live forever,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep going the entire time, gonna do

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Speaker 1: to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Well. Welcome to this episode of Pod Meets the World.

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Speaker 1: It's season four, episode twenty Security Guy. It originally aired

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Speaker 1: April fourth, nineteen ninety seven. The synopsis. After getting fired

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Speaker 1: I really loved it. I thought it was I thought

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Speaker 4: So I agree with you one hundred percent. I had

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Speaker 2: about Barth the Bear.

433
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 1: Was it on this podcast or was it just personal?

434
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: That's probably just in our every day of talking.

435
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: So barta bear was like the most famous working bear

436
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 3: through the nineties, and he was huge, but he was

437
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: trained because he had been raised from a cub with

438
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: his trainer, and he was the only, as far as

439
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: I know, one of the only bears that could wrestle

440
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: with his trainer on camera.

441
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: So Legends of.

442
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: The Fall, the Edge, there's like these classic movies where

443
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: Bart was the go to bear because he was he

444
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: was well trained and he never never killed anybody but

445
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: his trainer. His trainer had worked with him from when

446
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 3: he was a cub to wrestle the trainer. So whenever

447
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 3: you see a bear wrestling a person in the late

448
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: nineties with Barth the bear. It's the trainer himself in

449
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 3: costume doing, you know, stepping in for the actors. But

450
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 3: as far as I know, that's the only bear that's

451
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: been able to do that on camera or like relar, Yeah,

452
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: we have a bear.

453
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure the shot that we get where

454
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: the bear stands on his hind legs and he growls

455
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: and all that, nobody was probably on set for that.

456
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: The trainer camera, you know, isolated and then obviously your

457
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: shot there's really no bay like they they did as

458
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: little with the actual bear as possible, but man, just

459
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: so crazy. Bart the bear too is also dead now

460
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: with a note I got.

461
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: Early adds, I think, wait, so animals.

462
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: Die, You're not going to die?

463
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 2: Hurry? Am I going to die?

464
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: No? No?

465
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: No, well okay these are adult problems.

466
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you can go now.

467
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: So then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Amy reminds Alan

468
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: that this isn't the first time Eric's messed up at

469
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: the store. He's given him enough chances. It was time

470
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: to let him go, and I was like shaming Amy.

471
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: Season four has been like a real, like practical hardcore parent. Yeah, yeah, definitely,

472
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: I mean not like you know, I correctly so in

473
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: some way, you know, like it's al she never it's

474
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: not like she's just being vindictive or that.

475
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: She's done taking exactly.

476
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm finished, I'm finished with this now, I'm.

477
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: You know what my patient's gone.

478
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: Do you think she has a job at this point?

479
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: It's really interesting that they don't know.

480
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: We see her serving food a lot now.

481
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like an eighth of a glass.

482
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: Of milk orange.

483
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 2: She only pours like a little bit.

484
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: I was like, get shots of stuff, yes, okay, But

485
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 4: now I was wondering that.

486
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: I was like, is she working herself now or I

487
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: don't know what's happening.

488
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: She might maybe they make so much money at the

489
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: Wilderness Store. She just helps out at the Wilderness Store

490
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: because she's there later behind the counter, you know, right,

491
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: so maybe she's working there anyway. Morgan's size, I don't

492
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: want you to let Eric go. I love Eric, Alan

493
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: explains Eric's still living with them, he's just no longer

494
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: working at the store.

495
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: Amy did she I'm sorry, did she?

496
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 4: Did Lindsey look like seriously older this episode to anybody else?

497
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: No? I just noticed her hair was like I know, she.

498
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: Really kind of done up or like it was like

499
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: that's what it was.

500
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: Was older to me, all of a sudden, she's now twelve.

501
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: I noticed the same thing about the hair she had,

502
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: like a it almost looked like an actual natural beach wave,

503
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: like the way your hair really does look if you

504
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: go in the ocean and then come out and let

505
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: it air dry. I thought, this doesn't look like it

506
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: was done with a curling iron. It really has this

507
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: like cool natural wave to it.

508
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looked older to me. I was like, Oh,

509
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: she's okay, growing up. They're growing her up. She wasn't

510
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: in the footy pajamas.

511
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

512
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: Well.

513
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: Amy hopes their son understands it's just tough love and

514
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: he needs to learn his lesson. Alan assures her he

515
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: made it very clear to Eric he was fired right on. Cute.

516
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: Eric runs down the steps, Come on, daddy, Oh got

517
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: to get to work early. Get that get out that

518
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: bear stink. Amy stops him and asks Eric if he's

519
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: going to work. Eric quickly responds, oh, yeah, put a

520
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: little food on the table, keep you in pretty things.

521
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: Let's go pop. He opens the door to leave, but

522
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: he remembers he forgot one detail. Oh I've got to

523
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: take an early lunch and then not come back at

524
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: all because I met a really nice girl and I'm

525
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: gonna have a second lunch with her. He laughs and

526
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: nudges Morgan. Working for your dad is so great. Amy

527
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: has seen enough. Eric, you're fired. Eric turns around and

528
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: disregards his mom's comment. Amy doubles down, telling Eric she's serious.

529
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: Eric smiles, you can't file fire me. You're the mama.

530
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I work for the data. He pats Alan on the back,

531
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: but Alan doesn't respond. Eric's uneasiness begins to show as

532
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: Alan stands up. You really don't help yourself, pal, and

533
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: then he walks out without him leaving.

534
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: I was waiting. I was waiting for you to actually

535
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: quote back to the future here right, dad, Daddy.

536
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: And then we're in the Matthew's living room. Corey, Sewan,

537
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: and Tapanga are hanging out and Topanga is eating a

538
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: whole broccoli because Ioli phil leads apparently.

539
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: Who does that? I was waiting for her to be referend.

540
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 3: I think probably what happened is they were like, Sean

541
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: should be eating licorice because I'm in the Brad Pitt

542
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: Wilford El School of Acting. Now where it's like, of course, casual,

543
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: don't care, you're sitting here chewing on my liquorice. And

544
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: then they were like what if god eating? It's such

545
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: a visual gag to be like.

546
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: The difference between these two characters. One just thinking ahead

547
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: and being healthy, the other is going.

548
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: For the sugar.

549
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: Why is it? Also? What is it with broccoli? It's

550
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: healthy on our show, right, but no, but then again

551
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: later vergetable tray. I know you're just holding a crown

552
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: of broccoli. I'm saying. Later we have the broccoli poster

553
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: behind Ben Clary Celery right, sor I'm making I don't

554
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: need any that's why. Just go for the liquorice.

555
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: I'm a militarian. Danielle, by the way, loves liquors. Everybody

556
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: out there.

557
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: I cannot as much licorice as is possible. Your favorite.

558
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: It's the literally the only food you could name or

559
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: mention red licorice. It doesn't matter. It can't beat me

560
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: in the house. It's the only thing.

561
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: What about redes discuss twizzlers? I told you this little matter.

562
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: Those are just like strawberry storage.

563
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh god, she's driving driving in.

564
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: The car, but I okay, driving the car and.

565
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: Just driving in the car and I just hear a

566
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: wrapper being undone, and then i'd hear Jensen, Jensen, is

567
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: that licorice.

568
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: He's like, well, yeah, but it's god, oh god, and

569
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: she has to roll down all the windows in the car.

570
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: And there was a licorice flavored taffy. So we just

571
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: had a bag of taffy and he was just reaching

572
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: his hand in and eating piece after piece after piece,

573
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it just the waft of

574
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: licorice smell, and I was like, is that licorage? Oh

575
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: my god, it's the only thing. It's the only thing

576
00:28:49,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: I disgusting. Anyway, that's my favorite. So Sean hands Corey

577
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: a note with a list of colleges on it. These

578
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: are the schools he wants to Panga and Corey to

579
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: go to. Even if Sean isn't going, the three of

580
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: them should still be together. Corey reads the first Entry

581
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: University of Italy, good old you of it. Sean nods

582
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: he'll be taking tourists around in his big canoe while

583
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: the two of them are studying hard in school. To

584
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Panga correct him, it's called Gondola, Sean states, and that's

585
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: why you're going to college. Shawn attempts to leave, but

586
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: Corey stops him. You've worked too long to throw it

587
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: all away. Now, why don't you take the SATs. I

588
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: bet you do really well.

589
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: Two two characters, two characters that.

590
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: Your life is going to be completely ruined if you

591
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: don't take this test and go to college.

592
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: What are you going to do?

593
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: You're gonna end up on the streets alone selling drugs. Yep,

594
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: those are your two options. You go to college, or

595
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: you're a drug dealer. That's it.

596
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: That's it. Or just a big old loser doing a

597
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: normal job. Yes, like it.

598
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: Like my god, oh my god.

599
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: Sean siys, and I'll take your test. What's ten minutes

600
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: of my life? Right to Panga is shocked. Ten minutes Sean,

601
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: they take it? Least frantically cuts her off before she

602
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: says too much.

603
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: I love it.

604
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: He encourages Sean to take Phoene's review course so he

605
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: can knock the test out in five. Even Sean's not

606
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: up for it. Too much school and too much Foenie.

607
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: He walks out the door, telling him he's going to

608
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: go canoe shopping, and I hope he's going to the

609
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Matthew's wilderness.

610
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: You're having a great sale right now. Kind of a

611
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: weak button to the scene. It just ended. The whole

612
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: scene just ended. It was like, oh, I bet you.

613
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: There was another couple lines. I bet you.

614
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: I went out and then Corey and to Panga said something.

615
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: Topanga had a line of it, and for whatever reason

616
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: they cut it for time or it just didn't work.

617
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: But it really felt like a weird out.

618
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, ye're right, that is you usually

619
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: want a button to be a hard laugh. And I'm

620
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: going canoe shopping as you wander out, and.

621
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: I was walking on a laugh, which is not what

622
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: you're ever supposed to it. And it's true, you feel it.

623
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 3: That is the like, because I'm walking, you're waiting for

624
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: something else to happen. You're like, oh, Sean said a joke.

625
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: We can laugh at it, but you the laugh has

626
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: to like it's it's it feels like lead to something

627
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: because I'm moving and I'm walking, and then it doesn't.

628
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well then we get a little weird transition

629
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: back to the Matthew's kitchen, Alan laments there were so

630
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: many times he should have fired Eric, but he didn't.

631
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: He was too scared to admit he was a lousy

632
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: boss or worse, a lousy father. Amy scoffs, how could

633
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: you look at Corey and Morgan and think you're anything

634
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: but the best father? Again, harsh thing to say.

635
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean just wow. You just found out you.

636
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: Had this kid like half a season ago, and now

637
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: you're already just kicking him to the curb.

638
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Well, and like, you know, it's such a my, it's

639
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: such a weird thing to think as a parent that

640
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: your whether or not you have done well as a

641
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: parent is determined by one characteristic, which is is your

642
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: kid smart? Like, is your kid classically smart in the

643
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: sense of gonna go to college and then quote unquote

644
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: be successful, and that if that's if that's not the case,

645
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: if even let's say Eric was lazy, doesn't like school,

646
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: isn't the way we think of classically smart. Man, I

647
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: really failed as a parent as opposed to all the

648
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: other things we are supposed to be instilling in our kids.

649
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: Like yeah, Well, in the Phoenie conversation later, it was

650
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: interesting to me, you know that he Alan is seeking

651
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: reassurance that Eric is actually good at school, is actually smart,

652
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: And I feel like that it's an opportunity to say,

653
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: there are different types of intelligence, different types of like

654
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: if you actually think about it, finding a bear, getting

655
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: it from Hollywood to Philadelphia, like.

656
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Inventive, that's an inventive.

657
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: And of course Eric is incredibly witty, uh like he

658
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: was witty and your kids, But that could also just

659
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: be another option in life, right, But instead it's just well,

660
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: then he could also take the SATs. He could will

661
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: fit this already predetermined notion of intelligence and evaluation.

662
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: So it seems like a missed opportunity. And I agree in.

663
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Terms of and in terms of what a wonderful person

664
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: Eric is. If you look at the three kids, I mean,

665
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: one is clearly more like a better person than the

666
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: other two I don't know, like snarky and like and

667
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: like you guys are self.

668
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Obsessed and erotic, and Eric just gives him himself. And

669
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: Eric's just giving and funny and entertaining that he won't.

670
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Take the SATs. So Alan says, then why is he

671
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: having such a difficult time with Eric. It's not like

672
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: he did anything different with him. Amy reminds him, we

673
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: did everything different. We coddled him. Alan says, Eric is

674
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: different from their other kids. He needs to be protected.

675
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: Amy wonders, would you be willing to listen to someone

676
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: else's opinion and not overreact? Alan looks at her suspiciously,

677
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: and then we get an optical flip. And I do

678
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: like this part, the idea that at what did I

679
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: do differently? And it's just the age old question nature

680
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: versus nurture. My mom says, for sure, she had to

681
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: raise my brother and I differently. My brother was much

682
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: more sensitive and didn't take took any sort of took

683
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: everything as criticism instead of and I had a much

684
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: thicker skin, and I talk back and my mom had

685
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: to be a little harsher with me. But she couldn't

686
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: talk the same way to my brother that she was

687
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: able to, you know, So she just she knew she

688
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: had to adjust. And I like that idea of being

689
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: like somebody pointing out to you that, no, you may think, well,

690
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: if I'm the person that I am, I must do

691
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: the same things with everyone I know, But no, you've

692
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: probably done different things and that could lead to different outcomes.

693
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: It's also I mean, I think by the time your

694
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: first child, from what I've heard, I've had friends that

695
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 4: are like, oh, our first kid, you know you drive

696
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: home from the hospital at five miles an hour.

697
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: You think the kids made of glassed or like.

698
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: By the third or fourth kid, you're like, they're with

699
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: a babysitter, their fourth day, their home when you're out

700
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: of dinner, like you get there, they're fine, They're going

701
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: to be so of course you're gonna, I mean, anything

702
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 4: you do more than once, you're going to do differently.

703
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: Yep, it's just so absolutely. And then we're outside of

704
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Phoenie's house, a turtle necked and cardigan. Phoenie states the

705
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 1: obvious Eric is lazy. Alan gets in his face, that's

706
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: my son you're talking about. Corey appears and addresses Phoene

707
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: the reason I signed up for your SAT prep courses

708
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: to prep, possibly even review. He then flips through a

709
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: gigantic prep book. But you've gone way beyond that, haven't you.

710
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Phoene crosses his arms. Too much work for you, mister Matthews.

711
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Corey responds, Oh, I'll do it. I'm not afraid of you.

712
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: You remember that while I'm in the kitchen working and

713
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: watching you. He walks away without breaking eye contact with Phoenie.

714
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: Amy apologizes their son should not be talking to him

715
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: like that. Phoenie assures her, No, No, I like his determination.

716
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: Corey works hard for his grades despite just the other

717
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: week on a quiz show episode where he was a

718
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: certified slacker and a dumb dumb.

719
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: Ni He also, are they insinuating they seem to do

720
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: this several times that in a way a Feenie wrote

721
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: the s a T prep book. I know, because they're

722
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: always like in your course, Phoenie, and it's like that's

723
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: everybody's a saty pep book. It's like standardized. That's the

724
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: whole point point of it.

725
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: I know, because later when he wants to flip there,

726
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: let me see that as if he wrote the questions himself.

727
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: It is interesting. Uh so, Alan wonders, and Eric Peoene replies,

728
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: Eric could get passing grades in his sleep. In fact,

729
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: he did, which is a shame because I'd be hard

730
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: pressed to come up with a handful of students who

731
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: are brighter, wittier, or smarter than Eric. So there was

732
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: also that time that Eric's brain activity was more stagnant

733
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: than a rats but.

734
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: More active, No more stagnant, right, yes, I think that's

735
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: what they're referring to, was that he did in his sleep.

736
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and he does say that he actually slept through.

737
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: You know, whenever Amy feels vindicated, see Alan, Eric is smart,

738
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: which proves we haven't been too hard on him. He

739
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: is capable of reaching their expectations. Just then, Eric walks

740
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: outside wearing a full on security guard uniform. Alan asks

741
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: why he's wearing a costume, and Eric clarifies he's found

742
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: his calling law enforcement. Alan a shock. You took a

743
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: job as a security guard. Amy asks why would you

744
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: possibly want to do that? And Eric lifts off his

745
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: ten reasons talking. I mean, it's this smious one walkie talkie,

746
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: two partner, three dog, four partner sometimes they switch partners.

747
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Five Do you want me to keep going? Six? I

748
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: pack heat your time? Maybe?

749
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's one of those things you write.

750
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: You look at the script, you go, can we pull

751
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: this off? And then somebody like Will does it and

752
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: you're like, just keep.

753
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Going, exactly how many more can we to this guy?

754
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: It's so brilliant. I would also like to point out

755
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: that Eric got fired yesterday, has a new job.

756
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so capable about not lazy.

757
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: I know.

758
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: Also you're talking about getting a bear. It's not lazy

759
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: calling Hollywood finding the bear, getting in touch with the bear,

760
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: getting the bear on there.

761
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: Interesting.

762
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 1: Now, Amy gasps, you carry a gun. Eric clarifies, nope,

763
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: a heater gets cold out there in the shed.

764
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: Great.

765
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: Eric doesn't understand what they want from him. He got fired,

766
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: so he got another job? Valid question?

767
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

768
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Eric tries to get help from his dad, but Alan

769
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: takes Amy's side on this. They're tired of him taking

770
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: the easy way out. From now on, the free ride

771
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: is over. Eric needs some help here. He asks Foene

772
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: if he thinks he's taking the easy way out. Phoene says,

773
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: oh God, not another question, Yes, Eric, I do. Eric

774
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: realizes he's defeated, although he'd love to stay in debate.

775
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: He's late for work. But before he leaves, one more thing,

776
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: don't wait up for me tonight. I won't be coming home.

777
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm moving out. And then he casually swings his baton

778
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: as he walks away. So question, is he going to

779
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: be looking for apartments all night like overnight? Is that

780
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: why he can't come home? Uh? Is he? When's he planning?

781
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: He has to come back to move out unless he's stuff.

782
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He doesn't necessarily.

783
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: He makes a lot of declarative statements that may not

784
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: really be able to be backed up that quickly, right,

785
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 4: But but you.

786
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: Know he's stand stand firm, stand in firm with it.

787
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: I liked the idea. And by the way, you don't

788
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: have to worry about me for much longer. I'm moving out.

789
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: It's more about like, don't wait up for me tonight.

790
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you going to be doing in

791
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. I'm a little concerned.

792
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to I've the night shift. That John

793
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: Adams the night shift.

794
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So then we're in the John

795
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Adams hallway. Corey and Tapanga are studying their s a

796
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: T prep book, and Corey spots Sean headed their way.

797
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: He cues Tapanga and she says, very loudly, Okay, Corey,

798
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: give me another one of those tough sat questions. Corey warns,

799
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: or this one's a doozy. It kept him up most

800
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: of the night. Shawn's listening as Corey reads which of

801
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: these ingredients does not help you make mud, dirt, water,

802
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: or turkey. Sean walks over to them curiously and answers

803
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: turkey turkey. Corey, he says, correct, and Ta Panga pretends

804
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: to be in awe. I didn't even know that one.

805
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: Sean's confused that came from Phoene's prep course. Corey confirms

806
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: it was well, one of the tougher ones. Phoene's been

807
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: nearby listening to the entire conversation. He asks to see

808
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: this question. Corey points out it's right beneath the question,

809
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: which is sweeter, sugar or salt. Sean answers again, sugar.

810
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Tapega congratulates him. Wow, two in a row. Phoene fumbles

811
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: around for his glasses. What is going on? Corey explains,

812
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: we're just trying to show Sean that through your review course,

813
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: a student builds a certain level of confidence through a

814
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: series of not quite questions. Sean excitedly asks, is it

815
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: really this basic? Phoene admits, I don't want anyone misleading you.

816
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: My prep course involves a lot of hard work. Sean shrugs, well,

817
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: and I want to do it. Corey adds, but it's

818
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: fun to Panga encourages mister Phoene to tell Sean all

819
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: about the carnival like atmosphere of his prep course so

820
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Sean will join. Corey takes him aside.

821
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: And I love this.

822
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: This whole What follows is just I mean, it's a

823
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: perfect setup for SNI. I love Phoenie under pressure, and

824
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: this episode has a couple like Phoenie under pressure is

825
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: so fun. And to see him do this calculation and

826
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: then this run for the rest of the same bill's performance,

827
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean, god, it's it's it's it's broad and big

828
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: and yet entirely believable and well delivered, and it's so funny.

829
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh.

830
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: I love the fact that we see that Phoenie trying

831
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: to come up with what is.

832
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 2: Fun yes, and just not knowing there's not.

833
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: Really knowing Cake And the fact that Cake is a

834
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: runner in our show is so strange but wonderful, and

835
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: you know what, so much So I love that.

836
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: I love what Phoenie's gonna do. I've seen him do

837
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: it before. It's phenomenal, it's amazing. But you know what,

838
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 4: I loved even more about this scene. I loved seeing

839
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 4: finally Corey and Topanga working together as like a team,

840
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: pulling a caper themselves. I want to see this fifty

841
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 4: times during the show, and we're finally getting that that.

842
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: Relationship between the two of them. Sean's involved. So I

843
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: loved seeing Phoenix Coy was great, but think about great

844
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: the super Bowl up, the super Bowl coming.

845
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 3: It's definitely to Penga hygiene. That is a big one.

846
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: So I think we're gonna get more of this, I.

847
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: Think, I hope.

848
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: So maybe they've settled down on the love stuff, you know,

849
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: so that Topanga can just.

850
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: Be part of the crew now. Yeeah, you're right. It's

851
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: so cool.

852
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: I loved that about the scene. It's like, oh, they're

853
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: working together, they're doing.

854
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: All this, like that's what. I love.

855
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: The faces while Bill is doing his thing. Yes, seeing

856
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 1: our faces looking at each other, like all right, yeah

857
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: it is. It's so much fun.

858
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: It was finally another level, finally another level of relationship.

859
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: It was great.

860
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Loved everything about this, loved all of us working with Bill.

861
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Just just so much fun.

862
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

863
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: So Corey takes Phoene aside. If Sean doesn't get into college,

864
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: he starts washing windows, playing lotto. Then he loses his tea,

865
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: becomes a ward of the state and moves in with

866
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: you no SATs moves on the touthless and then Phoene

867
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: racks his brain. Well if I tell him about the cake,

868
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: well then everyone will want to take the class and

869
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: again the return of cake. I'm just so excited about

870
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: it and excited, Sean asks cake. Phoene nods, it's delicious

871
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: cake actually from the Westchester Bakery. That's where they get

872
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: the cake.

873
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 3: Sean is intrigued, like just having to be created under pressure,

874
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: not like they get the cake.

875
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: He's just rambling and it doesn't even.

876
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Say what else, and he realizes.

877
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: He has to keep goings.

878
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: Not enough, I have to I didn't I thought I

879
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: was going to be done. He continues, Well, we have

880
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: a talent show some.

881
00:43:53,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: Nights, some nights, and Sean is loving this this.

882
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Why didn't he know about it? Phoene butts back in,

883
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Well between the hooplaw there will be learning going on.

884
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: Sean blows him off. Yeah yeah, cake right, Phoene says, yes, cake.

885
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Sean happily walks away, and Corey thanks him he did

886
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: the right thing. Phoene shrugs. I suppose. I suppose, after all,

887
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: what good is it if you can't get the butts

888
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: in the seats. So then we're back in the Wilderness

889
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: store and Alan is tagging items when Eric slyly walks

890
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: in uniformed up and he's brought a fellow security guard

891
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: with him. He awkwardly asks his dad, in a while,

892
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: hasn't it Alan responds about twelve hours. Eric shrugs, seems

893
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: longer when you're on your own. He introduces his partner,

894
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: Ronnie Patel, to Alan. Ronnie compliments Alan on the store.

895
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: He hopes to own his own business one day too.

896
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Ronnie is letting Eric crash at his place. They're gonna

897
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: be roomies. Ronnie admits he knows about the family crisis.

898
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: He's sorry to hear about the mother going insane and

899
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: throwing people out of the house.

900
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted this to be a little bigger, Like

901
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: I wanted the story like the story that he spun,

902
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: and I also just it it's it's an interesting story

903
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: point that Eric blames Amy even though it was clearly

904
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: driven by Alan, right, And like, yeah, I think there

905
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: could have been a little bit more on that, like

906
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: a little more expansion of like the the you know,

907
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: blame factor, Like why does he write why?

908
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: But a little bit? But I want to be.

909
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: Another strange runner for the show though, because Corey blamed

910
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: Amy when he didn't support she seemingly didn't support the

911
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: conversation with Japan, So why is the blame always tend

912
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: to go on Amy, Right. Yeah, it's very strange where

913
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: it's just kind of like, all right, well, no, you

914
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 4: were fine, Alan, But Amy, it's like, oh, okay.

915
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: I will say that I did think right to your

916
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: point that I thought. This episode actually did a pretty

917
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: good job of explaining this in the way that Alan

918
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: is saying, Listen, i know why you're mad at your

919
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: mom because I've always been the play shover basically, even

920
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: though I'm the one you screwed over technically, even though

921
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: it's a family business, but whatever, it was me who

922
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: you put in the position of having to pay a

923
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: bear trainer five thousand dollars. And even though I said

924
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: to you you don't work here anymore, the only reason

925
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: you felt comfortable the next morning waking up and saying,

926
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: come on, dad, let's go to the store is because

927
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: anytime in the past I've tried to put my foot down,

928
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: you've barrel ran over me, and I've allowed it because

929
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm wearing these gloves, I keep protecting you. And so

930
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: it's such a good speech and it really felt very

931
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: much to me in that moment where I was like,

932
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: I feel the Matthew nelsonness of this script, which like

933
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: I feel this, I feel the Matthew Nelson theme, and

934
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: so I actually thought that was that ended up being

935
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: pretty clear about your mom's the one who when she

936
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: says something, you know to take her seriously for some reason,

937
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: not for some reason. The reason why you don't take

938
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: it seriously when I say it is because I have

939
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: been using these kid gloves with you. I've allowed you

940
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: to walk all over me because I feel they need

941
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: to protect you. So I kind of I kind of

942
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: liked that part.

943
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: I just I like the exaggeration of like mom is

944
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: Mom's crazy, and I wanted that to be a bigger thing,

945
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: Like I wanted that to be a runner that keeps going.

946
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: And then in the scene with Amy have even more

947
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: details tumbling out of like how Eric misinterpret or took

948
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: Amy's like pretty much normal mother aid and made it

949
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: into this like she's a crazy, hysterical woman and because

950
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: that does happen, right, and like the sexism inherent, and

951
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: that is interesting to me, And like we didn't really

952
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: go there, and.

953
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: I think we could have.

954
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we just don't have time, of course, But

955
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: I just like that because I do think people do

956
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 3: that especially back then, you would be like, mom's nuts,

957
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: girlfriend's mad.

958
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: She went, you know, and it's like, well is she

959
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: is this?

960
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

961
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: Right?

962
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: Because later Eric does say my mom's not insane, when

963
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: really the truth would have been that he'd be like, oh,

964
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: I know it is, No, she's not. She's still baddy. Yeah,

965
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is. So Eric tells Ronnie to

966
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: check out the store. Wants to confirm Eric is mad

967
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: at Amy, but he's not mad at him. Eric agrees.

968
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: Alan admits, you should be mad at me because as

969
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: much as you messed up, I messed up even more.

970
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: I should have fired you a million times. Eric tells

971
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: his dad to ease up. They're friends. Alan says he's

972
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: a goof off. Eric frowns, well, I don't want to

973
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: be friends with you anymore. Alan doesn't hold back. Do

974
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: you know when I really started messing up? The day

975
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: you were born? Alan remembers being in the delivery room.

976
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Eric admits the only thing he remembers is the cute

977
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: nurse who slapped him on the tushi. Alan says that

978
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: in the delivery room he was told to put on

979
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: gloves to be safe, and when Eric came out moaning

980
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: and groaning as he still does. He checked all of

981
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: his fingers and toes and made sure he was healthy,

982
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: which made Alan happy. But then Alan had a realization.

983
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: It's twenty years later and he's never taken off those gloves.

984
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: It's not Amy's fault or Feoene's fault, it's his. And

985
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: that's the moment when I was like Matt now Elson.

986
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Nelson. It's a sweet trap. Great analogy, Yep, great.

987
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: Analogy, Eric saying all he did was love him. Alan agrees.

988
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: He still loves Eric and he loves his other kids,

989
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: but since Eric was the firstborn, he loved him differently.

990
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: He lets Eric take advantage of him without preparing him

991
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: for the real world. He let Eric take advantage of

992
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: him without preparing him for the real world. Alan questions

993
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: what will happen with Eric when he's not around someday?

994
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: And we get some very dramatic strings and Eric ponders

995
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: this worry, and then we're in John Adams High Eric

996
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: and Ronnie are on the beat, walking with a non

997
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: mandatory guard dog that Eric thought would be a good

998
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: backup for the rough and rowdy John Adams High School.

999
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: It's a cute.

1000
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: Beagle amazing dog, no point in being there whatsoever. And

1001
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: we had an animal. They were like, we could probably

1002
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: get a dog for half fime. Absolutely.

1003
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: I mean, if they're in there anyway, they're probably like,

1004
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 4: what else you got in the truck?

1005
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 2: Great, bring the dog, because there's literally have been what happened.

1006
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: They might have just been like, oh, you know, the

1007
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: animal trainer also has this dog in the truck, so

1008
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: let's just write a whole scene for that, Yeah.

1009
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: A scene where Eric has a guard dog. And it's yeah, exactly, yeah.

1010
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: Because there's no point in it means nothing, there's no

1011
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: point whatsoever. It's a cute little aside like, oh, and

1012
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: by the way, I have this little dog, and that's it.

1013
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: So I think you're right.

1014
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 4: It was just it's like, oh, it's in the trunk,

1015
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: so let's just go grab it.

1016
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: He needs some air anyway, he.

1017
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: Needs Let him out, Let the dog out.

1018
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: Ronnie doesn't think the dog is very threatening, and Eric

1019
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: proves him right by talking to poppy Seed in a

1020
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Baby boys. Ronnie asks if Eric's mom is back from

1021
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: the insane. Eric breaks it to him that his mom

1022
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: isn't actually insane and asks if he can just keep

1023
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: that between them. While the boys wait around for trouble,

1024
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: Ronnie asks Eric if he can help him with his studies. Apparently,

1025
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: Ronnie is looking to get into college, so he's preparing

1026
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: for the entrance exam. Eric's confused. He thought Ronnie was

1027
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: an engineer back home. Ronnie says he was, but since

1028
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: he's moved here, it's time for him to start over

1029
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: and try something new. Eric's flabbergasted. Ronnie wants to go

1030
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: to college for a second time. Ronnie explains anything of

1031
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: value is worth that hard work. He points out that

1032
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: in this country there are so many opportunities. He uses

1033
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: Eric as an example, fulfilling his dream of being a

1034
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: security guard. Eric questions, you think this is my dream?

1035
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Ronnie nods, well, sure you're doing it. Eric gets defensive,

1036
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: pointing out that Ronnie also has this job, but Ronnie

1037
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: shakes his head. No, I'm an engineer and soon they

1038
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: will know it.

1039
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 2: Now this was okay. So I really liked this scene.

1040
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: I I like the guy.

1041
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 4: I love the message of because we hear about this

1042
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: all the time. You know, a hard working immigrant comes

1043
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 4: to this country, there's somebody in their own country and

1044
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 4: they have to start over here.

1045
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you hear it constantly.

1046
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: The one problem I had with kind of the entire episode,

1047
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: and actually Eric's entire arc, is I don't know if

1048
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: anybody ever asks Eric what he wants? Right, Nobody ever

1049
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 4: says what is your dream? What do you want? We're

1050
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 4: telling you you have to go to college, You're thinking

1051
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: you're lazy, maybe you want to be a security guard,

1052
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: you get the world at your feet?

1053
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: What do you want? And I don't think that ever happens.

1054
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: Right because the answer would probably be too complicated for

1055
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: the show, right because because if the answer is I

1056
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: don't know, then it opens up the possibility that maybe

1057
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 3: you don't need to go to college. If the answer

1058
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: is I want to be a you know, birthday clown

1059
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: for birthday parties, everyone would be like, well, then just

1060
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: go do that, right, you know? But they really needed

1061
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: to channel everything into the SATs.

1062
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: So I would just have loved the sum scene of

1063
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: somebody saying what it should have been FIENI at some

1064
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: point going Eric, what do you want to do?

1065
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: And then they figure out whatever, you know, whatever the

1066
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: answer is could have still led to absolutely.

1067
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: So they do think the idea was you figure out

1068
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: what you want to do in college you go to

1069
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: college to figure out what is.

1070
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: Also a good answer, Well that could have been the

1071
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: answered then, like if Eric just says I don't know,

1072
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, college is a great way to

1073
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: find fit, yeah.

1074
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 4: You know, or even if it's just like you know, well,

1075
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: the only thing I ever really, ever wanted to be

1076
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: in my life was a weather man.

1077
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: It's okay, well that's how you do it.

1078
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 4: This is like, you know, this, this is your step forward.

1079
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: It would it would have just been nice to have

1080
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 4: somebody ask Eric what he wanted, which just never happened.

1081
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: Good point. Well, then we hear a wrestling from the

1082
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: side of the school. Eric panics and he tries to

1083
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: get poppy Seed to help. It's Feenie. They both scream

1084
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: when they see each other. Eric explains he needs to

1085
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: go buy the book.

1086
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: You were like looking right at Phoenie, sneaking up on

1087
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: him from a foot away.

1088
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: What's that? What's that? You're like, well, you see, it's

1089
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: a human being.

1090
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: The fact that he didn't cross in front of camera.

1091
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: We know he came facing you, and so you would

1092
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: have seen or felt a person come up. He didn't

1093
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: just pop up from the ground. But you know, listen, you.

1094
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 4: Never know, you never never know the blood of all

1095
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 4: his victims has serious powers exactly.

1096
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: So Eric clears his throat, So what are you doing

1097
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: at John Adams High School after hours? Phoene size he's

1098
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: there for his SAT prep course and from the hotbed

1099
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: of criminal activity raging out here, I think your time

1100
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: would be better spent inside with us. Eric responds, take

1101
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: the class. No, I don't think I'm gonna do that.

1102
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: Phoene asks Eric what he's afraid of, and Eric says

1103
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: he's not afraid of anything. But PHOENI knows that's not true,

1104
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: and this thing Eric is afraid of is stopping him

1105
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: from becoming what they all know he's capable of. So yeah,

1106
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: interesting point will that they don't ever ask him what

1107
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: he wants, but they do ask him the deep question

1108
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: of what are you afraid of? They know there's something

1109
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: more going on, but they haven't actually said, like, what

1110
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: do you want?

1111
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: It's also the way what are you afraid of?

1112
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 4: Is like everyone knows this is right for you, right

1113
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: except you, And it's like, well maybe it's not right.

1114
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: I mean again, yeah, we can talk about that forever,

1115
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 4: but it's yeah, strange.

1116
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: So Eric is always hearing the phrase what you're capable

1117
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: of and he's sick of it. He took the essay

1118
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: teas last year and he blew them. He's just not

1119
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: meant to be in college. Phoene counters, maybe you're just

1120
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: someone who gives up to easily. What'll it be, mister Matthews,

1121
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: who are you? And then more sad music begins to

1122
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: play as Eric's partner goes back to working on his

1123
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: SAT prep book, helping cement that the SATs are the

1124
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: most important thing that has ever existed in the world,

1125
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: in the world. And then we're inside John Adams. Eric

1126
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: gazes into Poenie's classroom with even sadder music playing. He's

1127
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: watching mister Foenie teach the prep course. Eric takes out

1128
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: an SAT prep book of his own and apparently can

1129
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: hear everything through the closed window.

1130
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: Yep.

1131
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: As he watches the class, he notices Sean in the

1132
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: back happily eating a slice of cake.

1133
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: Eating cakes. Best joke of the show, by the way,

1134
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: just like you see Sean eating cake, thrill my god,

1135
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: You're like, yep, this is so great, went out and

1136
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: actually bought cake.

1137
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: It could have been a whole epis the whole separate

1138
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: storyline of like Corey into Panga having to procure the

1139
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: cake for and then we got to do a talent show.

1140
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: Like what you guys do for your talent? Sean tap

1141
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: dancing for everyone.

1142
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: Is like, how why are you doing? Corey sees his

1143
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: brother outside and smiles, and then we're outside Phoene's house.

1144
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: Corey bangs on Phoene's door, with Sewan and Tapanga behind him.

1145
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: Phoene's surprised to see them as Corey yells, We've got

1146
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: a few issues to discuss with you. Shawn shouts yeah.

1147
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: To Panga jumps in, we just came from taking our

1148
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: SATs and Shawn shouts again yeah. Phoene asks, how did

1149
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: you do? Shawn shouts yeah, yeah. Corey is on a

1150
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: mission for years. You've driven us nuts by filling our

1151
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: heads with dates and ideas and numbers and concepts to

1152
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: Panga picks up where he left off and with the

1153
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: last three weeks of that course of yours, drilling us,

1154
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: pushing us to the edge, and Seawan adds, yeah, and

1155
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: making me eat cake. He pats his tummy. He's gained

1156
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: five pounds right here, baby. Corey concludes, and now that

1157
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: it's all over, and we taken the test. We had

1158
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: to come here and tell you to your face. Sean says, sincerely,

1159
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, man. Corey admits, we understand why you

1160
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: pushed us so hard to Panga tells him, we're really

1161
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: glad you did. They all give Feenie a warm smile

1162
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: as they walk away. Phoenie couldn't be prouder. And then

1163
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: we're at the Wilderness Store. Amy is at the counter

1164
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: and proving that you definitely have to wear plaid if

1165
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: you work at the Wilderness Store of blaid shirt.

1166
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: And so is the uniform has to be done.

1167
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: Eric approaches her and asks if she fired him. She

1168
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: says she did. He admits that I deserve to be

1169
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: fired because she loves him, and he knows it must

1170
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: have been really hard to fire her son. Next, Eric

1171
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: points to Alan, and you said something wrong to me.

1172
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: Alan looks at Amy. I was the good guy in

1173
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: all this, and you turned it around, didn't you. He

1174
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: smiles and gives her a kiss. Good for you. Eric

1175
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: tells him you said there would come a time where

1176
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: you weren't going to be around anymore, and that's not so.

1177
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: I remember everything you taught me and I'm going to

1178
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: teach that to my children, so you're always going to

1179
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: be around and again, Maddie Nelson, I just feel it.

1180
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: Felt it very much there. Alan genuinely thanks him. Eric

1181
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: remembers one of the things Alan tought him was that

1182
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: he could be anything he wanted to be. He asks

1183
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: his dad if he still believes that. Alan nods, yes,

1184
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: I do, if you don't take the easy way out

1185
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: and try as hard as you can. Eric hopes his

1186
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: dad is right, because he did try as hard as

1187
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: he could. He slaps an envelope down on the counter,

1188
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: and Amy realizes it's his essat score. Eric thought they

1189
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: should all open it together. His parents look at the score,

1190
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: and Amy says, it's a good thing you're not working

1191
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: for your father anymore, or I'd have to fire you.

1192
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: He got an eleven twenty. That's two hundred points higher

1193
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: than last time. Eric is in shock. Alan ecstatically tells

1194
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: him a little semi out of character, I am so

1195
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: proud of you. I knew you could do it. This

1196
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: is the happiest I've seen Alan in any scene in

1197
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: any point of going.

1198
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: Kind of catching Rusty's voice got me, and it was

1199
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 4: just as a great great moment.

1200
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: Eric smiles. I knew I could do it too. He

1201
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: and Alan give each other a big high five, and

1202
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: the shot freezes on the three of them looking over joyed,

1203
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: and I got emotional.

1204
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: Yep, me too.

1205
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: I loved it. I really did well up. And then

1206
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: we're at the tag outside of Phoenie's house. Here it is.

1207
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: Did you remember this was the moment?

1208
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: No, no idea, but this is like, this is not

1209
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: the moment, guys, it's still this is already he's already done.

1210
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: No, he's never yelled at this high of a pitch

1211
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: in this.

1212
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: No, yes, he is. We could go back. It's that

1213
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: other episode he did exactly. It's he hasn't extended the

1214
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: name yet. It's just I think maybe I did with you.

1215
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't think of the Phoenie call as just being

1216
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: the extension of the name. That's that's it at the

1217
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: at its height, for sure. But like, this is so

1218
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: clearly the call, the Phoenie call. There's no the other

1219
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: ones have felt like, ooh, I could see how this

1220
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: led to the Phoenie call. But this feels like this

1221
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: is the first Phoenie call. And then the other ones,

1222
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you just think it's just the extension.

1223
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: I think.

1224
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: If they ask Will to do the Phoenie call at

1225
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: a convention and he goes better, that's not what they're

1226
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: asking for.

1227
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: If he goes that's it, sir.

1228
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: That one is definitely I think the peak. But I

1229
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know that to me still isn't I don't know.

1230
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: I still call.

1231
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I disagree with you. This is a sideyard, backyard.

1232
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: Uh, this is the toddler toddler Phoenie call. It still

1233
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: has yet to grow.

1234
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: So we're outside Phoene's house. Eric is standing outside and

1235
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: he yells mister Phoenie a couple of times, but he

1236
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: gets no response. He yells it at the top of

1237
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: his lungs in a high pitched voice, for wherever, in

1238
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: my opinion, changing the trajectory of boy meets world. In response,

1239
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: mister Phoene comes stumbling out of his house looking like

1240
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: a dishevelled Hugh Hefner Eric. Eric greets him, Hi, it's

1241
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: me Eric, What are you doing right now? Phoene explains

1242
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: he was sleeping. It's something he's gotten accustomed to in

1243
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: the middle of the night.

1244
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: The middle of the night.

1245
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Eric tells him to get dressed, Phoene shouts, are you crazy?

1246
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 4: Man?

1247
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: Eric nods, confirming he is, but he's got a book

1248
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: of colleges and he needs help picking out a good one.

1249
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: Phoene pats him on the shoulder. First thing in the morning,

1250
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: we'll go a college pickin'. Eric really needs his help.

1251
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: Now those spaces are filling up fast. Eric asks about Penbrook.

1252
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: Phoene tells him that's a really great I know, and

1253
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: we know from Jeff Sherman he said he named Penry yep.

1254
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: Phoene tells him that's a really great school. Eric asks

1255
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: how about Harvard? Any good? The audience lets out a

1256
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: big laugh, and Phene realizes this boy does need his help.

1257
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: He tells Eric to put the coffee on and he'll

1258
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 1: meet him in the kitchen. Eric begins to walk away,

1259
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: but he stops himself. I heard you told my parents

1260
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: you thought I was smart. Feenie nods and Eric says,

1261
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: just knowing you said that was worth about one thousand

1262
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: s A t points and I welled up again, and

1263
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: I got it.

1264
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: Now. See for me, it's like we've had three scenes

1265
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: of just sweetness. Like just the entire last ten minutes

1266
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: of this episode have just been and now we're gonna

1267
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: express an't right for one another. And it's just a

1268
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: look I want.

1269
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: Come on, come on.

1270
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: Since the cake, it's just been all sweet.

1271
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: The cakes in the cake.

1272
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,959
Speaker 2: Want you see cake on.

1273
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: The screen, It's all sugar for the rest of the episode,

1274
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: I wanted a little more.

1275
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: They both give each other a smile, and that is

1276
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: our show. I absolutely loved it.

1277
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: Another great one for season four.

1278
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: Gosh, really, I really enjoyed it. I know writer wants

1279
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: there to be some, you know something.

1280
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: Some some to the door because it's fall upstairs. He's

1281
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: heard himself just going through the episode. Now it's like

1282
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: it's Bill's biggest part maybe all it's so great and

1283
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: he is and of course a legend.

1284
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: Join us all for our next episode, recap it You'll

1285
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: be Season four, episode twenty one, a little episode called

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Speaker 1: cult fiction.

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Speaker 2: Oh here we are people.

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Speaker 4: This is a big episode for Ann like a number

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Speaker 4: of reasons, it's a big episode.

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Speaker 1: It originally aired April twenty fifth, nineteen ninety seven. As always,

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Speaker 1: you can follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show.

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Speaker 1: You can send us your emails pod meets World Show

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And we've got merch We're all

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Speaker 1: Gonna Live Forever March writer send us out.

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Speaker 2: We love you all, pod dismissed.

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Speaker 3: Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast producer hosted by

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Speaker 3: Danielle Fischel, Wilfredell and Ryder Strong executive producers, Jensen Karp

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Speaker 3: and Amy Sugarman Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo,

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Speaker 3: producer and editor, TaRaSu Bosch, producer, Maddie Moore engineer and

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Speaker 3: boy Meets World Superman Easton Allen. Our theme song is

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Speaker 3: by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at

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Speaker 3: Podmets World Show or email us at podmetsworldshowat gmail dot

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