WEBVTT - Mick Shots: A Deeper Dive

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys app now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola And just in the nick of time,

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<v Speaker 1>it is time for mix shots on a Tuesday here

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<v Speaker 1>inside the SWBC Mortgage podcast studio. Yeah, we got graded

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<v Speaker 1>sign starred pristgo. How long has that been there? I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed it the other day the podcast podcast studio. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed its WBC podcast studio. Oh okay, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>dropped the We've we've dropped the mortgage. Okay, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>s w the s wb C podcast studio here at

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<v Speaker 1>Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. So it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been up that long, No, And it's got it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a registered two weeks. That's better than my

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<v Speaker 1>record at home. My wife will have a new picture

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall or something like that that's been there

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<v Speaker 1>two years. Oh okay, it's pretty right through the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I cook for, you know. But what

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<v Speaker 1>a great Tuesday it is. We call this victory Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Why not. Okay, all right, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>victory Tuesday here at the Star in Frisco, Bill Jones

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<v Speaker 1>with Everson Walls and Mickey Spagnola and our producers Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beam like that. You know when they won, when

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<v Speaker 1>they won the third in a row, I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when's the last time they won three in a row? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they did it last year. We just don't remember. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the season. That's after we had

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<v Speaker 1>checked out some good defense at the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was twenty nineteen. Yeah, we actually did. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that was a Everson's alarm going off as just

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<v Speaker 1>to remind him he needs to show up for ya.

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<v Speaker 1>As Mickey goes to his media guy trying to confirm

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it is he just said, and three in

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<v Speaker 1>a row, three in a row last Nattie, San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>and Philadelphia. How many backup quarterbacks were there that they

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<v Speaker 1>played against during that show and that stretch, Well, Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>Nattie for sure, San Francisco Garoppolo was out, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>with it. And then Paradelphia started hurts, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>the starter. He wasn't at the backup, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>originally the backup. But we forget at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the season last year, like three in a bow. We

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<v Speaker 1>played some good defense last and you got to take

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<v Speaker 1>away that set the tone for the takeaways this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was the defensive coat. I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you know you know, Dick soon, Dick Soon is back there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Mike is like, what happened to me? Just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me? Is the bad guy? The wicked witch? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>It just didn't have time enough to turn it around. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. I ended yesterday's show talking about the play,

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<v Speaker 1>the option pitch Zeke to Tony Pollard. Yes, that clinched

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<v Speaker 1>the victory on Sunday, And it wasn't the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in Cowboys history that they in fact had a game

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<v Speaker 1>winning play against the Carolina Panthers the same play. It

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<v Speaker 1>was two thousand and three, they did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the fourth quarter of a it was

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen seventeen game at the time, and Richie Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>with a pitch to Avion Cason's sixteen yards for the

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. But but what what Okay, you missed one

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<v Speaker 1>from last year? A second you get that not against

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolina Panthers. Wasn't No, not against That's the that's

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy thing about it. It was exactly against the

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panthers. And Chris Beam, our producers Supreme claims that

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<v Speaker 1>he remembers that play in two thousand, so he found

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<v Speaker 1>it right. Well, he may not have found it, but

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<v Speaker 1>but he he says, he says he remembers that play,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't you Chris Beam? I do, yeah. And so

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<v Speaker 1>where was the game played? It was at Texas Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>now when he was in here earlier, he said it

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<v Speaker 1>was played at Carolina. Okay, I think about it because

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<v Speaker 1>we played We played Carolina that year in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>In the playoffs that tried Carolina, that tried the first game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the November meeting. And and Carolina had a

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<v Speaker 1>very good team obviously that year. They went to the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl that year they were eight and two, came

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<v Speaker 1>into Texas Stadium. It was the Sunday before Thanksgiving. And

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<v Speaker 1>what do you remember about that play? Chris Beam? I

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<v Speaker 1>told Bill, I said, I remember is is they were

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<v Speaker 1>the play ran towards our sideline. We were going on

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<v Speaker 1>your broadcast. We're going left to right and Bill said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do this on the air. Still yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not having this conversation. Now, we're gonna have this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>on the air. We're not gonna waste it. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna waste it before we get on the air. And

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beam, I am here to tell you you are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely correct. I think you do remember it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>left to right on your radio dial. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>and the play instead of this one went to the right,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and that one went to the left from

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<v Speaker 1>Richie Anderson pitching to Avon Cason. Now Mickey is dying

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<v Speaker 1>to fill us in on something eighteen years ago. It

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<v Speaker 1>was eighteen years ago too. They unearthed it and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that play, and I think they probably did

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<v Speaker 1>not unearth it. Then, No, they didn't because Kellen Moore

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<v Speaker 1>spoiled your eighteen year history because he pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>they ran that play last year against Minnesota only Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>pitched it to Cede Lamb was lined up in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>So they they kind of went back to something that

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<v Speaker 1>they felt like and they could, you know. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty good about explaining why they they called it.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, they were loading up the box and we

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<v Speaker 1>decided if we have an open edge, then we'll take

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity, and he said, we feel very comfortable of

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<v Speaker 1>putting the ball in the hands of Zeke and Tony's

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<v Speaker 1>and they make good decisions because Zeke has to decide, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of handoffs. I'm keeping, not just hand

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<v Speaker 1>but pitches, right, I gotta keep it. Do I run

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<v Speaker 1>or do I pitch it right away? And and it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>They pitched. If that's like if that's like the last

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<v Speaker 1>play of the game, or you do a die shot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a tough call, right because you know you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>take it. You gotta pitch it to him and got

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<v Speaker 1>to pitch it. That's a lot of stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about even in that situation, Okay, two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left, you got the game in hand, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>eight point lead. I mean, what if that defensive end

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<v Speaker 1>bats that ball away and then get a loose football

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<v Speaker 1>and they scoop and score and we'd be dogging kellamore

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Yeah, what are your calls up? Like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Feel much stuff going on over the place. Shout us

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<v Speaker 1>for the two point conversion. There you go, yde it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we will and I don't know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do just like Kansas City, does you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes gets down there with a shovel pass and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, and then this time, instead of getting it

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<v Speaker 1>too Kelsey, he pitched it. He went, he didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>like this, Kelsey went that way. Here comes another running back.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he had come from the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and he gets kind of pitches the two

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<v Speaker 1>of him underhand, and so you have to deviate because

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<v Speaker 1>now everyone's going to be looking for that particular play.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other play that Kellen Moore talked about was

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown pass to Marie Cooper, and they were asking him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you made some adjustments and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I think he thought maybe they drew up

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<v Speaker 1>a fancy play at halftime, and he pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>it was basically the same play in a different direction

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<v Speaker 1>that they had against the Chargers. You remember the play

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<v Speaker 1>that and Tony Romo saw it right away. He threw

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<v Speaker 1>a pass over the middle of twenty yards to I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was Blake Jarman and Marie Cooper on the

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<v Speaker 1>far left was five yards behind the dB right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he pointed out that you know, sometimes the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He sees he's got Amari right, but he sees also

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<v Speaker 1>the guys wide open over the middle with his hands

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air, like throw me the ball, and

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<v Speaker 1>your instinct is okay, I'm going there brief So this

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<v Speaker 1>time they motioned Cooper from left to right and he

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<v Speaker 1>looks over the middle and Dalton Schultz same thing, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>yards down the field, wide open, and he held it

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<v Speaker 1>and held it until Amari made the turn. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and looked at it. He threw the ball when

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper was on the twenty yard line and he

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<v Speaker 1>caught it at the goal line and he saw he

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<v Speaker 1>had a step and it was like and dec I

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<v Speaker 1>think said it to him because he told Amari, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I owe you one. So he would said, okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the one I owe you, mister hamstring. But it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing how these these plays kind of come back.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the quarterback says, Okay, that's what happened last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what happens this time. And we talked it

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<v Speaker 1>about yesterday. We dropped it in the bucket. Yeah. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk about finding and looking and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the play, to actually happen. Yeah, to drop

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<v Speaker 1>it in there like that, and for Cooper to just

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<v Speaker 1>get that shoulder, you know, get the leverage on that

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back just enough to where he could hold him

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<v Speaker 1>off because the dB could have actually caught up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what good wide receivers do. He was one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the dB when he put him in position to dodge,

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<v Speaker 1>because once the ball was almost there, they give a

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<v Speaker 1>little resistance and then they take it away. Drew Pierson

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<v Speaker 1>did that to me all the time in practice. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna shield you. He's gonna use his body. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just about going up and catching the ball. It's stopping you,

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<v Speaker 1>the defender, from making the player on the ball as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He did that to me in a charity game. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do you think is the easiest defender Drew Pearson ever

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<v Speaker 1>went up against? Oh, we're looking at it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>new knowledge, I would have said me. But now the way,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, they scored a touchdown on us, uh

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<v Speaker 1>to cut the lead to like one touchdown or less

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<v Speaker 1>than a touchdown, and uh they went for two. Well

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<v Speaker 1>they had to go for two. There was no kicking

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<v Speaker 1>right and Rogers was thrown to Drew. Of course I

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<v Speaker 1>knocked that ball, yes, I did. Okay, So when they

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<v Speaker 1>got the ball back, I didn't. I was young, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't realize that this is a setup. They

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<v Speaker 1>got to win, right, and the last pass is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Drew, and so we light we light

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<v Speaker 1>up up and they the guy that's in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>our touch football, so don't move. No, he said, go

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<v Speaker 1>cover Drew, and I said, okay, So I go out.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to make sure. Yeah. No, wait, it's worse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's worse than now, So I go out and now

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<v Speaker 1>there's no safety. Everybody's at the light of scrimmage, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were, so we he I ran with him to

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line and the ball's coming and it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and bigger, and I'm getting ready to go up

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I feel this big hand

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<v Speaker 1>come on my shoulder and pushed me down so he

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<v Speaker 1>can catch the ball and spike it. We win. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a set up. The ball was getting bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and bigger, yes it was, and Micky was getting smaller

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<v Speaker 1>and smaller. Foller, your chances were getting smaller and smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>like they were going to get back at before that

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion. What game was this? It was a

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<v Speaker 1>charity how long ago? That's the thing. Okay, I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, you out there running around like that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was? It was. It was at that football that

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<v Speaker 1>football stadium field in Farmer's Branch. Yes, there's alows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we played out there. Yeah, that's where we go practice

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<v Speaker 1>when when we had the rainhouts. And that's right, you did.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried it was still. Yeah. And then when they

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<v Speaker 1>were at the ranch later on, they went in practice

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<v Speaker 1>at the field in Carrollton when it was bad weather.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a little history man memory l yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very I don't know if you call it history history history. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you play in the charity basketball games at all? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god? Yeah? How about you? Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the traveling troops. I was a basketball player. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't a football player. I was. I hated football. Scary, scary,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hot. You know. I had an afro at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put the head messed up my corn roles.

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<v Speaker 1>So how many how many games would you'll play on

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<v Speaker 1>your tour offseason? Two thirty games least thirty. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in shape, I really did. I hated lifting

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I loved more now than I did then.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know how it is, I felt weight slowed

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<v Speaker 1>me down. I didn't know any better, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as I got older, I did know better. So now

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball, tennis and swimming, jump rope, all of that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that was my workout. Bob Ward never saw me.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Ward, the late great Bob Ward never saw me,

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<v Speaker 1>so we didn't have much of relations. That sound you

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<v Speaker 1>sound like DD Lewis. When I was interviewing D. D

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis for whatever we were doing, and I they asked

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<v Speaker 1>them about the off season, and I go, so in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season, you know how these guys work. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you do? Twelve inch curls in the swimming pool? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>CEDD was up the old adage of I come to

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<v Speaker 1>camp to get in shape. Yes, there is no getting

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<v Speaker 1>in shape in the off season. As much as I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of believe that as well. The workoutside did

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<v Speaker 1>they were fun. It was recreational. I mean, we still

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<v Speaker 1>got got in shape because I did a lot of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was mostly I used it as a mental

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<v Speaker 1>recreation and just get away from football itself. Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 1>not college we graduated to sixteen ounce curls and they

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<v Speaker 1>were cheap beard too. Yeah, they needed sixteen ounces because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the kind of they did a little man,

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<v Speaker 1>they measured it up. So that was all the time, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>three two in Missouri only on Sunday, three two d.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't get a full beer on Sunday. They switched out,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no way, yes they did. It was three two

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday in the grocery stores. Yes, that's crazy, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>At least they sold it on Sunday. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, because what's still doing with that now? Yeah? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>well afternoon? Right, you know they did that in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, they wouldn't sell beer at the ballparks

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<v Speaker 1>until afternoon. So if you ever went to like a

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs double hitter and they started like the game at noon,

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<v Speaker 1>all the vendors would be standing at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the steps, and as soon as the church bell rang,

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<v Speaker 1>they all came running down, right. And one time, one

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<v Speaker 1>time I was there, some guys stood up and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>This breaking news from the National Football League. The Washington

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<v Speaker 1>kicked last river? I remember? We said, Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>it Um, Yeah, not touching it, Micky, not at all. Nicky.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry was on the radio this morning. He was what

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, I'll tell us about what's what's your

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry radio report on this Tuesday? He said, of the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter, I don't ever remember a better quarter than

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<v Speaker 1>that quarter. And it was made substantive in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>because of the quality of the team we were playing.

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<v Speaker 1>So three touchdowns in the third quarter took over a

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen thirteen deficit to go up thirty what was it,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six fourteen in three quarters. So I took that

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<v Speaker 1>and also took that he said the offensive line, how

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<v Speaker 1>well the offensive line is playing, And he said a

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<v Speaker 1>great job and particularly well coached. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>better on the offensive line. And he also mentioned and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about a little bit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're trusting Terrence Steele, but they're still giving them

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<v Speaker 1>some help. Yeah, right, kind of let him get into

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<v Speaker 1>the game because early they were going two tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>and they were making sure they were protecting him, unlike

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders did last night against Joey Boso. Right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, when was like I'm finally stepping out.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so happy not to see our offense. Yeah, and exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking, you know, think about what the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>did with him, right, They reduced him to a pass

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<v Speaker 1>rusher in the fourth quarter, and Steel a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times was out there by himself. Saw. I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the game last night, and as I look at what

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<v Speaker 1>the teams do after we play them, it just lets

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<v Speaker 1>me know, just for the fires in my head, that

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<v Speaker 1>we are a good team. I think we are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the better teams in the NFL right now, because

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<v Speaker 1>as you match up against the Chargers, you can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the penalties they had, all that kind of crap.

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<v Speaker 1>They had the same penalties. I think it was against

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams, I forget who they played, same penalties the

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<v Speaker 1>next week, but they overcame against City. They couldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that against us. That's because we're good, Okay, that's because

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<v Speaker 1>we played better than Casey did, especially on the defensive end.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I look at this team and I look

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<v Speaker 1>at what the Chargers did last night. The Cowboys made

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<v Speaker 1>them look I wouldn't say average, but the Cowboys made

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<v Speaker 1>play plays against them on the defensive side, just as

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<v Speaker 1>they did against anybody else, including against Justin Yeah, against

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<v Speaker 1>what says a lot awfully good life says a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was good. It was good against the Cowboys, except

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<v Speaker 1>for there were some turnovers and the Chargers defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>that accepts that's a huge exception because he didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>stumble into that. We baited him intoday, so we played

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<v Speaker 1>him the way he was supposed to be played. How

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<v Speaker 1>about the quotes Joey Bosa on car Uh, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>once we hit him a few times he really gets shook.

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<v Speaker 1>And you saw on Covington's sack he was pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>curling into a ball before we even got back there.

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<v Speaker 1>Great dude, great player, but we know once you get

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on him, he kind of shuts down. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much everybody, you know. But what you think wild about

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<v Speaker 1>that quote is during the same division and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like not lay him again. You're gonna play him again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so keep that. It was somewhat critical of

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<v Speaker 1>the officials too, wasn't he Yeah, he didn't like the

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<v Speaker 1>was it a roughing where he ended up. He ended

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<v Speaker 1>up getting a personal well I think he no, he

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<v Speaker 1>argued to argue with THEE. Yeah, and he got penalized

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Yeah, And he was getting hairs. He was

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<v Speaker 1>getting out what he said. Here's what he said about officials.

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<v Speaker 1>The refs are blind. I'm sorry, but you're blind. Like

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<v Speaker 1>open your eyes and do your job. It's so bad

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<v Speaker 1>like me, do your job. He will get fined. He

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<v Speaker 1>will get fined. Yes, you will, Well, the dark thing

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<v Speaker 1>will so will KZ for that hit unless they that

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<v Speaker 1>is not a good that that's a horrible call. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get fined as a personal fall. Well, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he appeal. He can appeal the call itself,

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<v Speaker 1>can't he Well, if he can prove that they made

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake, even though the replay was one thing, you

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<v Speaker 1>going to this particular procedure, it's almost like cool, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't just rely on you know what. Dan Quinn in

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<v Speaker 1>his interview yesterday took the high road, um because what

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<v Speaker 1>he said was I was he said, this is something

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working with him because he would lead with

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<v Speaker 1>his head all the time and he goes and I

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<v Speaker 1>would explain to him for your own good. We need

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<v Speaker 1>you and are good. We need you on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>so you got to quit doing it. So when they

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<v Speaker 1>asked him, what did you tell him? He said basically

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<v Speaker 1>after the game, I said, good job, he did what

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<v Speaker 1>you were supposed to do, and he goes, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't heard back from the league on the call,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least you did the right thing. And he

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<v Speaker 1>left it at that right. He didn't criticize the call,

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<v Speaker 1>He just credited him kazy for doing Did they clarify

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<v Speaker 1>Helm now a defenseless defenseless player? So you do with

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive player? Just let him catch the ball? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's why I said yesterday. Is he supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to stop and wait, okay, catch it and then take

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<v Speaker 1>a step. Trying to remember did they say defenseless player

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<v Speaker 1>or did they just say unnecessary roughness? I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was unnecessarily roughless on a defensive player,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't I didn't. I don't remember hearing them

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<v Speaker 1>say defensively. They may have, I just don't. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that's what they said, um, And they may have. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>But on a play like that, what responsibility is it

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive team? Not to put your player in

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<v Speaker 1>position you know why you're going to before Brady said,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it before the Cowboys game and our

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>friend interviewed him. Uh, and he said, that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback because the quarterback, he said, I feel sorry for

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive backs because the quarterback puts the receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>that situation to get hit. So you worry about you

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<v Speaker 1>worry about hitting them in the head. You were about

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<v Speaker 1>them being defenseless. So and you worry about and don't launch. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you so, So what if the only alternative is

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<v Speaker 1>to go low? R If you go low, that is

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>bad because now that guy hasn't he can get injured.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, Shotz got up in a game to where

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>thank god, he bounced up and was looking macho with

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>look cool. But you know it could have been worse

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>if he hits him at a certain way and he

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>lands on his head. Yes, it was a total flim

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>so you know, the impact was was pretty good. And

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>so that's the only the alternative, and that's dangerous. I'd

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>rather he hit him. He hit him here. That's the

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>best place to hit in the torso area, defenseless or not,

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the best place to hit y and had his

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>head up. I mean that used his shoulder. I'm not

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>feeling that that has he cannot pay. He should not

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and I would imagine that's like twelve to fifteen times

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>he should not have to pay. So what do you

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>think of reviewing that, making that subject to review. I

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>think they do it in college, don't think. Well, they

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>do on targeting, just to determine right. They don't take

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>the penalty away, right, okay, but they they review it

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>to see if I gets rejected. They get If they

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>get called for targeting, they're rejected unless on review they

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>determined that he can stall the game. In review, they

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>should take the penalty back to They should. They should

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>because if it's not targeting, the what did you call?

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>But in the NFL, okay, let's make it subject to review. Yeah,

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's how they were, Like you said,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>he said, defenseless. Can you review defense? Defenseless? Yeah, you

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>can review defense. You should I say, oh no, yeah,

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>but you can always say it's launching though, because the

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:14.239
<v Speaker 1>guy's jumping. Say that, yeah, the referee off off the

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>field in the room. He said that. He said, that's

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that I Greg Olsen's he said, maybe

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>they could say launching, but but he wasn't convinced that

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it was even even even McCarthy skirted the issue yesterday too,

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way, when he did his press conference and

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>he they asked him about or Todd Archer asked him

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>about it and said, you know, from my point of view,

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>this this and this right, and McCarthy says, I approved

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that article. You said that I didn't, And then he

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>went on and anyone went on to basically point out

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that was it him or somebody else? After the game,

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the the official that was closest I think my centered

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.239
<v Speaker 1>After the game, the official that was closest to the

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>play didn't call it. The two guys across the field

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that weren't close were the ones that threw them. If

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you hit somebody too hard, you're gonna get a flag. Yeah,

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that's just it. So I mean, Casey, I think I

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>think I'm bigger than he is, so you are. Yeah,

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>So just think if he was a linebacker, you know,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>just think it was if it was a more violent hit,

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>which it could have been, it might get kicked out

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of the game. And so basically you're watching the game.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Any play where you say, oh, like that because the

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>cloud themselves, they could influence the referees like whoa what

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>breaths like, Oh, I gotta call something on that and

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>any wild hit, any wild hit five eleven, one seventy four.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Wo Wow, he's got to be KG. You know he's

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a good player. You know he's smart. Yeah, for that

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to be at that size, to be that relevant seven

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>picks before he got here, that's pretty good. Okay, what

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0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of notes, you do. That's the tease?

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<v Speaker 1>or Google Play story. That was very uneven there, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well deep breath, you know, I just can't go. You

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<v Speaker 1>were really balling there earlier this this week. You were

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<v Speaker 1>You are concerns me because we've made the determination that

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey is going to continue to do the reads until

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys lose a game. Right now, was kind of suffering,

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and he said, teetering a little bit here. Three straights,

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot, you got outside influences. Okay, So when's the

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>last time they won four straight? Okay, fourth straight, that'd

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>have to be sixteen, twenty eighteen they won five straight,

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>five in a row, and twenty eighteen to get to

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<v Speaker 1>ten and six and win the division. To close out

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>the season, they ended up losing to Indianapolis twenty three

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to nothing. Remember them, Oh yeah, it's weird game. I

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think they needed that game though, And then oh,

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I think they did because then they won the last

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>two games. They beat Tampa and the Giants thirty six

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty five the Giants, So they won seven of their

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 1>last eight. I think we looked the way we looked

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>at it. It It was good that they lost to Indianapolis

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>because you don't want to be on an eight game

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>winning street going into the playoffs because the more you win,

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the closer yard of losing, right, and so they were

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>going to set themselves up for postseason success. So winning

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>those last two were good. When those last year that

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>was on track, think about it. They won seven of

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the last eight, which means they were three and five

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>to start the season. I remember the season, remember because

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>they were firing Garrett right. Yeah, and then they turned

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it around and they won, and then they won the

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>first playoff game. So that's eight of nine and then

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that was the wild caught got wiped out by the

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Rams because they ran for two D seventy three yards

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>with the running back. I had never heard of the

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:50.919
<v Speaker 1>guy off his couch or so is that in your notes?

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that what we were waiting for that break? Okay,

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 1>what we were waiting So what's what's in your notes?

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>So when Kellen Moore did his interview you yesterday, he

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>was asked about McGovern going in as the third tight

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>end or the fullback, and Kellen said, they asked him,

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>what do you what do you call that? Like, what

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of formation is that? When he goes in, he

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 1>goes We just say mac m ac. So when they

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>call for that formation, they yell out Mac. And he said,

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the Mac show. Yep. Mac goes in there and

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>handles everything. It's been awesome. He's a guy who has

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>done some great stuff for us. So basically, Connor McGovern

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>goes in as the eligible third tight end right number

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:45.320
<v Speaker 1>sixty six reports eligible and then he lines up at fullback.

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>And if you go back and look at some of

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the plays from this last game, on that drive, they

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>were in the red zone, maybe inside the ten. He

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>had a block to spring Zeke right up the middle,

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and then on the one yard touchdown he hit and

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>then he caved in the whole Well, it had been

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>on the right side, the left side of the defensive line,

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>so Zeke could slide in for a touchdown. He's been

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.720
<v Speaker 1>doing pretty good job at it too, by the way.

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, it keeps a guy engaged. You know,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a backup. He got to start when Zack Martin

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was out with COVID and then he goes back to

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, just okay, what do I do? But he's

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good athlete, so they found a way to

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>get him engaged. What what does he stay just on

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>one side? Is he more comfortable on the the right side.

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him on the left too. I gotta say, Man,

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>as much as we're playing the offense and I don't

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>want to mess anything up, especially the offensive line, I

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think he's better than Connor Oh you mean Connor. I

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>thought you meant left or right on the tight ends. Oh, okay.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he's better than Williams, That's what I'm saying.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think he's a little bit stronger. Obviously

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>he's bigger, right. And I'm surprised that he didn't challenge him,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>uh for that starting job. I guess it wasn't up

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>for debate. He never, I mean, he was always I

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>mean he got snaps both sides. Uh. A lot of

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>what happened was they were they were kind of game

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 1>managing Zach during preseason and during training camp, so he

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>would go and play on the on the right side. Um.

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And if you look at and so one of the

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>things that also came up was the Cowboys using twelve personnel,

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like two tight ends or going with three tight ends, right,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>And you remember the criticism Garrett got for too much

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>too tight end and three tight end. The first possession

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>in the third quarter after they after the Chargers not

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers, um Carolina Carolina missed the field goal. Yeah, thanks.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>They they went the first three plays before the touchdown

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about to Amari, they went two tight

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>end eleven yard gain, three tight end five yard gain,

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>three tight end with McGovern five yard gain, and then

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>they threw the thirty five yard touch What formation were

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>they in on the touchdown pass? They went three y

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and all three guys were to the left, and just

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like they did, only the opposite direction in the game

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>against the Chargers, they sifted. Cooper went in motion right

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and he stopped at the numbers and then took off

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and did a little like he was going straight and

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>he did a little I was a good move. No,

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. It was. It was quick, Yeah, because the

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>one he did to the dude uh in La, he

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>gave him that step inside and then took off straight

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>and the guy was lost. No one can keep up

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>with this one. And this one it was smoother. It was. Yeah,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't as as crisp, but he got a step

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>on him and like I said, and then Dak waited

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>till he was the twenty yard I think I think

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 1>the dB was guessing. Yeah, I think he was trying

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to figured out exactly and he hadn't played right Henderson. Yeah.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so the twelve personnel has been really good

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.879
<v Speaker 1>for him, especially since these two guys can catch the

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>ball right and you don't think they're just in there

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 1>to block and or one guy's gonna block and one

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna go out all the time. They can do

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 1>either or or both. But at least when you extend

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>the edge on the right side to help steal out

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, then who's ever rushing either got to

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>go out wider or you know, try to fight through

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>three guys instead of one. So it's been really productive

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>for him. You know, when I first saw Schltz and

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>j Jowin was the guy, you know, we we knew

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>we had some blocking problems, but John preh acl Uh

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Sheltz looked a little bigger, he looked bulkier at that time.

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of hard to tell the difference between he

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<v Speaker 1>and Joan as they go down the field. Now I

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>think you can tell. Schultz kind of got leaner, especially

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:11.479
<v Speaker 1>when he remained a starter. His body, his body mass

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is leaner than it was, yet his blocking has them

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>suffrage from that. I think that's how we ended up

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>taking over for a job. And of course the injury

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't help, but he made the best of his opportunity,

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's why he's still in there now

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>because he showed, yes, you know, I can block, but

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>now I'm also catching passes. And we were talking about

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>steal and I want to ask why did they have

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<v Speaker 1>so much confidence him after what they saw last year,

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>right when it was basically, let's get him out of there,

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>let's put Zach Martin over there. So what gave you

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the confidence this year? They must have seen something in

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>training camp. Now he got stronger. Yeah, and think that

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you think that was the beginning of it. I think

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and and he is one of the top workout guys

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in the offseason. He was one of the guys that

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>got an award. And so I asked Nate. I asked Nate,

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I said, what do you think is the biggest difference,

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.879
<v Speaker 1>And he said, other than getting stronger, he said, he's

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>playing with confidence. He goes, when you're young and you

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>got all this stuff going on out there, and you

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 1>start getting beat and you start beating yourself up, right,

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>he goes, he's just playing with more confidence out there.

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And even Kellen Moore said, you know when when you're

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 1>a young guy and you're not just blocking the guy

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>in front of you seventy times, you know they're doing

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 1>all this different stuff. You got to sort through things,

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and he goes in your head swimming yes. So now

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>when he sets, he's setting like Okay, I'm gonna block

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>this guy right, not like, oh no, I gotta block

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 1>this guy right. And and and so it sounds like

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>he's playing with more confidence. With some players, it just clicks,

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone that doesn't. Obviously you weighed on a

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>particular players, draft him in the first round or whenever

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you sign him. You're bringing in a key player, and

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it just clicks. Everyone doesn't get it. It's like classwork.

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you get a kid in there, you know he's

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>got potential. Yeah, but someone has to make him believe

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that he can do it. And I don't know who

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>let that fire under him in regards to confidence. Yeah,

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 1>but someone or something made him say, you know what,

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that's where I was a grambling. I am tired of

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>getting my butcket, you know, I mean, I'm just tired.

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do something. There was something about that, so

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and that that that's kind of a person's moment a

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of them. That's just how it happens. It's kind

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of like playing tennants. Right second serve and you're you

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>toss the ball up and you're going, oh right, or

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna toss it up and go okay, I got this.

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It depends on how you can play yeah right, yeah yeah,

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.359
<v Speaker 1>But but it's true if you're believing in yourself, then

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not thinking negatively, right. And so I don't know

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>if somebody's gonna finally take advantage of him or what,

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>but he's done pretty good. And I think the other

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>thing is it seems like early in games when they

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>go twelve personnel, Okay, let him get subtled, let him

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>get into the game, get into rhythm, and then we'll

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>test them on third down. Right. I just I just

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's important that this culture that we have now

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not just the interceptions that we've been begging for

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and the turnovers, but the offensive lines culture has returned, right,

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and like all together, Yes, to me, it looks it's

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>like this, that's what keeps us in playoff mode. That's

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna have us going in December. You know, that's

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna keep us going in that seventh, seventeenth game,

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, into the playoffs. Our offensive line, not the

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>D line, even though I love the pressure that they're

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 1>putting down our offensive line. We are back to where

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we need to be. That them being our catalyst for

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>this team and our success. And even having lost the

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>starting right tackle, yes, a five game suspension, they've been

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>able to not only I mean they've sustained it. They've excelled. Man,

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, you don't just run for two

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 1>forty three just because you other team's fallen down, right Uh?

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 1>And then uh. Kellen was also asked by TYRNS about

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Tyron Smith and he just said he's playing phenomenal. Um. Yeah, man,

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>when when it's quiet over there, yes, when you know

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>everything's any And I went to look for it and

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find it. He said there was a scramble

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>play that Dacked threw the ball to Schultz and I couldn't.

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I looked at him and I didn't see it. But

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>he said, just go watch that click and that'll tell

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you all you need to know about Kellen. And then

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 1>when he was talking about Zach uh, he compared it

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to the grades they give people and I'm I don't

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.760
<v Speaker 1>know about this stuff. Kell Kellen Moore, he said, uh,

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know what the Madden grade is.

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Like they can give a ninety nine, he goes, so,

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, he's probably a ninety eight, but Madden,

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he might be a ninety nine. He's playing so well.

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I heard about these school I didn't know. I didn't

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 1>understand either. And McCarthy basically said that he graded as

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>high as you for this game, graded as high as

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 1>you could grade it on my offensive. And that's not

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the first time either. So some of the other people

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that supposedly grade had him way up there to check

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:22.879
<v Speaker 1>out their work every week. All right, well, I think

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that does it for this edition of mix Shots. We're

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna you know what, don't sleep on these New York show.

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 1>We're onto the Giants tomorrow. Okay, you know what they are.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I am on the way out of town tomorrow. Why

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>not sound like my wife? What? I will not be

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.879
<v Speaker 1>able to make the show. I'll be I couldn't get

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>another flight, all right, what we're doing? Oh? Shut up?

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I hope I can make him. Yeah, I do. You know.

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I've done this show by myself before, and there's a

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>reason they got others in here in Yeah, happen to year, right, Okay,

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll just go out on the street see if I

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>can find somebody right there you go. Maybe that kid

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that I told to call in that was at the

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you might have to take some phone calls out of

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the star spots. Maybe I can. All right, we'll see

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.479
<v Speaker 1>who shows up tomorrow, and if they don't, make sure

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>eight eight five two two nine seven. All right, stress

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that some of us will talk at you again tomorrow.

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