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Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple

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Speaker 2: I look at the Bengals and I know, like you

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Speaker 2: look at what Joe Flacco is doing, and I think the.

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Speaker 3: Bengals are more of the story in this game.

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Speaker 2: And obviously it's a good win for Chicago to come back,

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Speaker 2: and you know, considering the circumstances, but it feels like

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Speaker 2: it was a collapse by Cincinnati at least that's how

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Speaker 2: it felt there at the end. I mean, two guys

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Speaker 2: can't do it. I also look at though the last

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Speaker 2: two weeks. I mean, how many points have they given up?

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Speaker 2: Now seventy something in two I mean they're dead last

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Speaker 3: And look, I know Alcoholon just got there.

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Speaker 2: You know, Hendrickson has had his issues, and they probably

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Speaker 2: weren't high expectations for this defense anyway. But the thought

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Speaker 2: is that there's a chance you go get Flacco to

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Speaker 2: allow the season.

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Speaker 3: To still be intact for Burrow when he's healthy.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if I mean, do you think Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow is gonna play much better than Joe Flacco did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Flacco threw for four and seventy yards, Like, what do

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Speaker 2: you want him to do?

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Speaker 3: I mean that was ridiculous. By the way I fla

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Speaker 3: Is doing is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I apologize that they've given up eighty

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Speaker 3: My apology short of them there, Well, it's all right.

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Speaker 2: We tend to exaggerate sometimes, but I just it's it's unbelievable, man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not a This is not a

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Speaker 3: With the way the.

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Speaker 2: Offense is playing, but obviously the inability for the defense

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Speaker 2: to actually fracture the locker room a bit.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it was a game that the Bears

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Speaker 5: and all all would have been kind of normal. I

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Speaker 5: think it's the way the you know, the way everything

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Speaker 5: that kind of put that pressure or put that spotlight

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Speaker 5: that way because if you think about it, they have

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Speaker 5: the game pretty much wrapped up, they hit the on side,

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Speaker 5: they're able to get it. They're able to get what

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Speaker 5: was it two touchdowns in fifteen seconds or something like that.

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Speaker 5: So everything is a feel good story from that moment

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Speaker 5: till the next moment, right, and then you have an

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Speaker 5: improbable moment take place. For the Chicago Bears, it went

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Speaker 5: in their direction. They were able to get get the win.

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Speaker 5: I think it just creates a bigger conversation because again,

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Speaker 5: there were a few defenses out there that if their

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Speaker 5: if they're just a better defensive unit, how good can

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Speaker 5: this team be? And that's one of the games where

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Speaker 5: you're how does that, how does that happen? How does

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Speaker 5: and get into the end zone When now, granted, you know,

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Speaker 5: it put them in position to get into phield goal range,

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Speaker 5: and maybe that stressed the defense out. Maybe they wanted

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Speaker 5: And so maybe one more run and not maybe one

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Speaker 5: more run like he made early on. They're in field

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Speaker 5: get the idea of being aggressive, sending the house to

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Speaker 5: pressure him. You saw it work in other games. You

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Speaker 4: this point. Jamar Chase afterwards was heard yelling, you know,

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Speaker 3: Chase Brown, on the other hand, he took a different approach.

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Speaker 6: We just got to play complimentary football. If we put

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Speaker 6: Like that's it, Like that's that's like, that's what we

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Speaker 6: make them get us the ball back, let us go

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Speaker 6: to twenty two victory, and let's end the game.

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Speaker 3: That's how that's like, that's how I feel.

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Speaker 4: So, uh, how's that gonna land if you're a defensive

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Speaker 5: Just think that the respect factor is there. You you

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Speaker 5: you gotta finish the game. The fact that you guys

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Speaker 5: that point in the game, your defense has to close

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Speaker 5: out the game. I don't think anyone should be offended

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Speaker 5: by him saying that. In fact, you should be happy

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Speaker 5: I was watching social media catches out partying and stuff

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Speaker 5: they just lost. They just lost, Like right, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: I would rather see a guy be upset. I'd rather

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Speaker 5: a strong declaration of okay, like let's finish games. That's

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Speaker 5: captain obvious. So if you're if you're in the locker

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Speaker 5: just want to be upset, to be upset because you

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Speaker 5: talking about us, don't now, y'all gave up, gave up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, Look, there's gonna be frustration when seasons

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a problem. All right, that's a frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Now, look, they're a team that's gonna have their moments,

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Speaker 2: I keep going back to that final play. It's not scheme.

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Speaker 3: They brought three linemen and they brought up a guy

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Speaker 2: frustrating part is you know, I don't know who you

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Speaker 4: And then you look at their schedule after the buy,

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Speaker 4: You've got the Patriots, the Ravens, the Bills, the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Again, it's over, dude, that's bad. That's a tough road.

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Speaker 3: Like if I'm Joe, if I'm Joe Burrow, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: And honestly, even when Trey Hendrickson's been in there and

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Speaker 5: Now, I mean, why not listening. It's not doing anything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, again, the conversations have been I mean even

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Speaker 5: getting all of this production from a generational talent, that

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Speaker 5: and they still lost. But it begs the question, and

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Speaker 5: Unfortunate because I'm a defender and I'm always want to

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Speaker 5: see defenders be compensated. But the reality of it here

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Speaker 5: it applies to do you do the blockbuster deal with

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Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily lead to you winning games directly, at least

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Speaker 5: that it hasn't this year with some of the guys

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Speaker 4: Ye have a don't you think you'd feel a little

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Speaker 4: bit better about Dallas if they had Michael Parsons? Like you,

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Speaker 4: you feel a little bit better about I mean, their

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Speaker 4: offense has been really good, Dak's been really good.

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Speaker 5: It just different the play making ability. The playmaking ability

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Speaker 5: he's going to make a difference. The playmaking ability is

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Speaker 5: on a higher level. But can I definitively say that

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Speaker 5: I can't definitively say that. I can't do that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: if a guy gets five sacks in a game and

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Speaker 5: they still lose the game, can I honestly say, Okay,

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Speaker 5: if Miles Garrett isn't in the game, you get five,

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Speaker 5: you got five less sacks. But do they are they

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Speaker 5: Like It's kind of like, I don't no no, they're

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Speaker 5: But it didn't win them the game with the production,

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Speaker 2: If you took out Trey Hendrickson and his moneys that

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Speaker 4: Now, speaking to somebody who might get bipped whatever that means.

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Speaker 5: You can, oh, I gotta look it up.

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Speaker 4: You can bip your way all the way to DraftKings

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Speaker 3: Plus that's on seventy five.

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Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza was the leader for quite a while, it

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Speaker 3: Over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's a bit is breaking into a car, breaking

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Speaker 5: It's a slang term several meanings, most prominently referring to

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Speaker 3: Can't wait super Bowl sixty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there you go.

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Speaker 3: They's not going to run a car.

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Speaker 5: It's a haircut in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: We don't want it to get bipped.

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Speaker 5: Getting bipped in Baltimore means getting getting a haircut. Engulfed.

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Speaker 5: In golf slang, bip is a whole means to pick

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Speaker 3: To hear a lot of things. You bipped golf course,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no worries, Mark, No worries Mark. Yeah, and good

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Speaker 5: for you, cool park, continue on my son.

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Speaker 4: So, uh, what was the expectation for Julian Saying coming

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Speaker 2: Not really, No, they had a quarterback competition and I

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Speaker 2: It was just a matter of, you know, not announcing

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't that late.

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Speaker 2: They just had a quarterback competition and kind of delayed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's The problem is a lot

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Speaker 5: I think this quarterback class is losing its highly rated,

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Speaker 5: I just don't think. I don't think that this this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what with a lot of teams. Though a

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Speaker 2: know that I include him as part of the class

435
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Speaker 2: because he's eligible, but he's not you know, he's he's not.

436
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't want.

437
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna come out or not.

438
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: But too, he's not like exhausted his eligibility. You know,

439
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: we're guys like aler have or or some of the

440
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: other guys you mentioned. Some of those guys don't even

441
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: have any left, so they've they've got to come out.

442
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: But to your point, it has been really disappointing, and

443
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: I think they're all The other thing you have to

444
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: acknowledge is, you know, for beck is as good as

445
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: he's looked at times, because there is some natural talent ability. Dude,

446
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 2: it's hard to move teams, move programs, change an offense,

447
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: try to get you know, on the same page with

448
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: guys throughout the course of a season, and especially as

449
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: good as the scheme has gone with some of these defenses,

450
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: you know, there are teams who aren't you know, you

451
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: know as far as the win loss record wise, you know,

452
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 2: you look at me and say, well, they're noted any good.

453
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: It's like no, dude, Like I was watching back to

454
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: tape from Notre Dame BC, go look at the different

455
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: defensive schemes that they presented Notre Dame to try to

456
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: limit Jeremiah Love's impact. Or try to confuse their freshman

457
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: quarterback and CJ. Carr go look at what Maryland does.

458
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: They were talking about them the other week, like they've

459
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: got some interesting like Botz schemes and coverage schemes and

460
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: things they do to disguise and just try to fool

461
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Speaker 2: guys like I don't care, you know, at what level

462
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: you're playing quarterback out right now. It's it's it can

463
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: be tough sledding at times because of how these defenses

464
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: are trying to attack you and confuse you. And I

465
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: think that the counter to all of that is if

466
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: you have a few guys who scare the crap out

467
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: of the defense, like a Jeremiah Smith, like a Carnell Tait,

468
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: at least they should, it can limit somewhat of what

469
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: they can do because you've got to put at least one,

470
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: if not you know, two, guys potentially on him. And

471
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: so that takes away from some of the variety that

472
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: you're going to see in those defenses. But if they're

473
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Speaker 2: not scared of someone man like, it's it's becoming kind

474
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: of similar to the NFL, as some of the disguise

475
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: and things that defenses are doing.

476
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Speaker 5: You got a pressure guys man, that's you give too

477
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 5: much time. You try to play these little creative type

478
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: of Oh, we're acting like we're coming, but we're only

479
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 5: bringing for and this, that and the other.

480
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 8: Like.

481
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Speaker 5: You can't give quarterbacks with that type of talent on

482
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Speaker 5: their edges time. If you're going to go down, go

483
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 5: down in a blaze of glory. Make him throw that

484
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 5: ball up quick. Make those receivers have to go earn

485
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 5: their money quick fast, in a hurry. Do not give

486
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 5: them the amount of Like watching that Ohio State game,

487
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 5: how do you give a quarterback coverage? Time you're in coverage,

488
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 5: you're sacrificing the aggressiveness of trying to move the quarterback around,

489
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 5: get the quarterback flustered, have the quarterback paying attention to

490
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: what's going on in its front of his face and

491
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 5: on the side of them and maybe behind him, versus

492
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 5: what's going on down the field. You can't allow a

493
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 5: guy to just stand back there, feel no pressure and

494
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: then be able to go through all their progressions. It

495
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 5: just we're talking about defensive schemes out there and creative

496
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: defense schemes. One scheme that has fallen flat on its

497
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 5: face is the defensive scheme that's in state college. I'll

498
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: say that it's not good at all. Damn it's not.

499
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 5: I mean it has It has probably been the worst

500
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 5: falloff drop off. And we've had a lot of defensive

501
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 5: coordinators come through that door a lot, and they've come

502
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: and gone from Brent Pride to you know, Al Golden

503
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 5: was there at one point in time. You know, we

504
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: had Manny Diaz and Tim Allen being the latest, I mean,

505
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: and all of men came in and did well as defenses.

506
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: Can I can I say this in defense though, of

507
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: your defense. That's a hard one. It's not that bad

508
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: like you guys are.

509
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: The last nine seasons have averaged giving up around like

510
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty points per game. Like I literally we did

511
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: all a lot of research going into the game, and

512
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: so right now, how many points.

513
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: Do you think you're averaging per game? It's not it

514
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 5: hasn't been a lot of points. It hasn't been so

515
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 5: I don't I'm not sure what the average would be.

516
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 5: It's tweets twenty two, okay, because dayon, I mean, that

517
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: was the biggest defeat we just took was against Ohio State.

518
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 5: It's not like we're getting blown out by anybody.

519
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 9: No, no, no, And that's what I'm saying is lad

520
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 9: the defense isn't thriving though, well, but I would say

521
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 9: the offense to me is what has hurt you because

522
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 9: it's just like there's I mean, the offense had and

523
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 9: then this past.

524
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 2: Week's game one yard, like into the fourth quarter, one

525
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: yard of total offense. That's correct, you had sixty. You

526
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: had sixty for the entire half at the end of

527
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: the game. I mean, that's just I don't care how

528
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: you cut it. And I understand your frustration with the

529
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: defense because there definitely has been a step back, But

530
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: offensively it has to be frustrating because they cannot figure

531
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: out how to close out games and really do anything

532
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: at this point, which it's tough, but that's that's There's

533
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: a number of teams are doing that. Like ask Miami

534
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: fans how they're feeling today.

535
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, I mean it looked like it was promising.

536
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 5: We were able to get the edges early on, we

537
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 5: were able to run a little bit. But it's just

538
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: this weird, this weird deal with passing, like passing. First

539
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 5: of all, passing has been very difficult for Penn State.

540
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 5: The secondly, what are you doing these long like these

541
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 5: very long developing plays, like we're watching Ohio State due

542
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 5: Ohio State's doing long developing plays. You know the difference

543
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: between what Ohio State was doing and what Penn State

544
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: was doing. Ohio State was blocking, and they were blocking

545
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 5: the amount of guys that were coming and there was

546
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 5: no real pressure. You had dudes looking like all everything

547
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: on the defensive side coming from from the edges, coming

548
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: from the inside, and they were pressuring our quarterback and

549
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 5: what was it? What's our quarterbacks?

550
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 8: Now?

551
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 5: I forget his name, grunking crunken Meyer. He didn't have

552
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 5: the speed. He don't have the speed to be getting pressured.

553
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: He does not have the movement and the mobility. So

554
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: why are you not running quicker developing plays in a

555
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 5: game as big as that one, with as good as

556
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 5: athletes as there are on that Ohio State defense? It

557
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 5: just I don't know. It didn't add up to me, man,

558
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: But whatever. That's just my take on.

559
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: Did they get better when they fired James Franklin?

560
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

561
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: Well, because I just you look at I'm looking at

562
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: it going. I mean, what was that supposed to fix

563
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: things this year? Was that supposed to He's he's saying

564
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: they shouldn't have fired him.

565
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: Maybe wait till the end of the season.

566
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Okay, So that was like, should they have

567
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: fired him? No, they shouldn't have fired No.

568
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: I just like, but this is one of those I mean,

569
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: because the fan base is calling for it. No, I

570
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: don't think it want to I don't think it was

571
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 4: make a move because the fan base was calling for it.

572
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: I think they made the move based off of Again,

573
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: we talked about it with Mike McDaniel. I think you

574
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: made the move because you want to get into the

575
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: market first. You want to put your hat in arena first.

576
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: And I think that it had run its course, the

577
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: idea of what you know, they were getting from from Franklin.

578
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: It kind of ran its course based off of how

579
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: management felt about the locker room and how he you know,

580
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 4: how James Franklin felt about it.

581
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: The team that is and his chance is a winning.

582
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: Dylan Raola, the other quarterback of note, one of the

583
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Speaker 4: Penn State candidates. Matt Rule is going to have to

584
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: go the rest of the year without Dylan Rayola with

585
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: the broken leg. He's done for the season.

586
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 8: So.

587
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: Is he going to be I know that there was

588
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: obviously a lot of hype and him getting there, But

589
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: is he a guy that next year you look at

590
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: and go, all right, this is this is kind of

591
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: a monster prove it year for him, I think his

592
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Speaker 4: third year and maybe a potential to be a first

593
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: round pick.

594
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

595
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt about it. I mean I thought

596
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: he actually was trending too in the right direction this season.

597
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: They were one of the more.

598
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: Prolific teams in college football, And I mean you look

599
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: at that game, like, I kind of wonder how SC

600
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: fans are feeling only because he goes out of that game.

601
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: Nebraska's up fourteen to six, and they even missed a

602
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: fuel goal after that point, and it just felt like,

603
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: even though the tief came in and did a decent job,

604
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: it felt like if Riola would have been able to

605
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: stay healthy. I don't know that SC wins that game.

606
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: And this is a team and fan base that I

607
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: think they're wavering on what their head coaches. So I

608
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: know there's still a lot for SC to play out

609
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: there that could be that final Big Ten team that

610
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: gets in. They keep their Big Ten hopes alive, but

611
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: they need a lot to happen to help them but

612
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: even the college football playoff hopes alive. They got to

613
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 2: go to you know, Otsen and play organ coming up.

614
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: But I kind of look at that from the other

615
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: side of that conversation too, and go, on paper it

616
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: looks like a good win for SC In reality, it's

617
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: like kind of change the outcome of that game. But yeah,

618
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: ronaland Will, I mean, we got time to talk about that.

619
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: I think in general this weekend, what was interesting about

620
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: it to me was it reminded me of the good

621
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: old days. And I say that because we were incapable

622
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: of watching some of the games because of this YouTube

623
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: TV Disney dispute, which you know is now running into

624
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: at least to the best of my knowledge, tonight's Monday

625
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Night Football, which is a big deal. You know, there's

626
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: ten million subscribers for YouTube TV, so there's a lot

627
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: of people who if you watched you know, YouTube TV

628
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: on Saturday, you noticed like you were not able to

629
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: watch a variety of games you normally do, especially in

630
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: their multiview, which is a great option and part of

631
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: their package, in part because of Disney, who obviously wants

632
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: YouTube to pay more for the rights to their content,

633
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: and YouTube is kind of fighting back against it because

634
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: they don't want to have to continue to keep raising

635
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: prices on their customers. So it's a battle and we'll

636
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: see whenever they come to a conclusion. But like tonight,

637
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: to me is one of those deadlines where you're like, man,

638
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: if I'm the NFL, I don't know that I really want,

639
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: you know, ten million people not able to view it

640
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: if that's how they view live television or that's how

641
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: they're going about it, and it's the Cowboys, Yeah, big brand.

642
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: So so I do wonder if, like Roger Goodell's given

643
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: someone a caller, Troy Vince said hey, man, let's let's

644
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: let's figure this out. Let's come to the negotiation table.

645
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: But it did remind me of like I mean, back

646
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: when you and I play var. One of the reasons

647
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: why I went to Notre Dame and my final three

648
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: schools where Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, was because it

649
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: was in close proximity to my parents. You know, games

650
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: weren't on TV that much, so the fact that Notre

651
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Speaker 2: Dame was on TV, and knowing that I had a

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Speaker 2: little sister who was going to play college soccer, and

653
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Speaker 2: I had a an older sister who was going school square,

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, if my parents can't make it,

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure they can at least watch

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Speaker 2: the game somehow. You know, now viewing is so prevalent

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Speaker 2: that you kind you kind of take it for granted, man,

658
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Speaker 2: And honestly, like I think even the biases around some

659
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Speaker 2: of those bigger programs, like I'll bluntly say it, like

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame being on TV allowed it to have a

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Speaker 2: huge advantage over only other schools from a recruiting standpoint

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Speaker 2: way back when, because like there's fans now that grew

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Speaker 2: up they're like, yeah, that's all my dad raised now,

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Speaker 2: because that's all his dad raised him on, and that's all.

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Speaker 3: They were able to watch.

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Speaker 2: If you're in New York or you're in some of

667
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Speaker 2: these other you know places where like they they're Catholic

668
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: and they love Notre Dame football, right, And that's and

669
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Speaker 2: that's the case for like a lot of those big programs,

670
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Speaker 2: big games, like they're the only ones on And so

671
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Speaker 2: now you see, like we talked about the upsets that

672
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Speaker 2: occur this week, you see that and you just go, well,

673
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Speaker 2: there's a lot more parity in college football.

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Speaker 3: But it's hard for you to like.

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Speaker 2: Digest that because you know, we kind of come from

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Speaker 2: an era where the big bad blue buds come around

677
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Speaker 2: you used to expect them to win.

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Speaker 3: That. That's this is not the day and age of

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Speaker 3: college football we're in anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's similar. Uh, people wonder why the Cubs of a

681
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: national brand, It's because WGN, like you could watch it

682
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Speaker 4: all over the country, and the Braves had TVs and yeah,

683
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Speaker 4: like Notre Dame, I always knew a Notre Dame fan

684
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Speaker 4: growing up because it was on Channel four out here.

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Speaker 4: It was always on NBC every single week. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: it was like a little bit of throwback weekend. And

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Speaker 4: if it doesn't, you know, go through before tonight's game,

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Speaker 4: then maybe Steven A. Smith and Scott Van Pelt are

689
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Speaker 4: going to campaign on social media to try and get

690
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Speaker 4: you to go click a link to view your displeasure

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Speaker 4: with YouTube TV for whatever their their issue is with

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Speaker 4: the ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

695
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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

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Speaker 4: He's our smooth operator. Some would call him our resident

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Speaker 4: red ass here on the show. He is the one

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Speaker 4: and only Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports,

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Speaker 4: CBS Sports HQ analysts. Get him on X if you

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Speaker 4: want that smoke at Prisco, CBS Pete, good morning.

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Speaker 8: What's up guys? How are you?

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Speaker 3: Good morning?

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Speaker 5: Pete?

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Speaker 3: Good Pete. The Bengals defense have at it.

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Speaker 8: Throw up on your shoes. That's about what it is.

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Speaker 8: Let me discuss. You know what's amazing about it? Too?

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Speaker 8: You change coordinators, it gets worse. I mean, what's I

708
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 8: tell you? That tells you if the players aren't very good

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Speaker 8: and the effort isn't great, they miss so many tackles

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Speaker 8: it's unbelievable and clearly okay, even if they tackle Lovelin

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Speaker 8: in that situation, they probably make the field goal beat

712
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Speaker 8: them anyways, But they're they're awful. That's by the way.

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Speaker 8: That's almost eleven hundred yards in the last two weeks

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Speaker 8: to the Jets and the Bears. I mean, that's just

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Speaker 8: terrible defense.

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Speaker 5: Geez, Pete.

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Speaker 2: When you look at what the Colts are doing defensively,

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Speaker 2: maybe this past week not a great example of that,

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Speaker 2: but on the season as a whole, do you think

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Speaker 2: they're wishing they had lou Anarumo back.

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Speaker 8: Brady. I don't think it. No matter who they are,

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Speaker 8: they could have you know, Bill Belichick Rex Ryan combination

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Speaker 8: in their prime and they're still not going to stop anybody.

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Speaker 8: It's players, I mean, it's effort and players. And I

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Speaker 8: mean you look at all the assets that they've used

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Speaker 8: on that defensive side of the ball too. By the way,

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Speaker 8: you know, I'm trying about draft picks the whole second.

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Speaker 8: A lot of those guys in the secondary they drafted,

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Speaker 8: and they drafted them with the idea they're going to

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Speaker 8: be become good, solid players, and they haven't. I mean,

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Speaker 8: Gino Stone shouldn't be on the field. I mean, he's

732
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Speaker 8: not a very good player. And and you know they

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Speaker 8: battle it was drafted to be a good player. And

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Speaker 8: here they are, two guys colliding at each other and

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Speaker 8: letting the guy go down the field for the game

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Speaker 8: when he cuts down just it just bothers me. And

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, everybody's all over Chase Brown for

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Speaker 8: kind of calling them out. But I mean, if you're

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Speaker 8: an offensive player on that team, you have to be frustrated,

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Speaker 8: There's no question about it.

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Speaker 5: What was your takeaway from that that Chiefs Bills game.

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Speaker 8: I think Buffalo's defense is going to be better as

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Speaker 8: the season moves along. I think, you know, getting Hairston

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Speaker 8: back is enormous for them because it means you get

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Speaker 8: your Debus White technically off the field, and that's big

746
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Speaker 8: because he can't run. Harston can run. I think that's

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Speaker 8: important for them when they play teams that can stretch

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Speaker 8: the field. I think getting Bosa showed up in that game,

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Speaker 8: that's why you go get them. I hope, like heck,

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Speaker 8: he's ready to do that in the postseason. I still

751
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Speaker 8: think they need to get guys back. I mean, there's

752
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Speaker 8: still a lot of guys injured on that depensive side

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Speaker 8: of the ball, but that was an impressive showing and

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Speaker 8: they limited the big play. In years past, the big

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Speaker 8: play has hurt them, and I think that was the

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Speaker 8: most important thing that came out of that game.

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Speaker 4: Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior

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Speaker 4: NFL columnist for CBS Sports. You can get him on

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Speaker 4: x at Prisco CBS. By the way, Pete, I just

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Speaker 4: didn't want to mention this on that Bengals game.

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Speaker 3: You were right. I think Brady and.

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Speaker 4: LeVar O, you an apology because you told everybody that

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Speaker 4: Colston Lovelin was the better pick over Tyler Warren and

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Speaker 4: it played out true.

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Speaker 8: So well, I mean they're going to end up They're

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Speaker 8: going to end up right now, it's Tyler Warren, but

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Speaker 8: it's gonna end up being really close. I mean, they're

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Speaker 8: going to be both really good players. Anybody who gave

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Speaker 8: up on Colston Loveland was way off base. Remember he

770
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Speaker 8: was coming off an injury last year. And so I

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Speaker 8: think Loveland's going to be a big time player in

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Speaker 8: the passing game, and Warren might end up being the

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Speaker 8: better all round player, but I think more big Lovely

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Speaker 8: might end up giving you more big plays in the

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Speaker 8: passing game.

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Speaker 2: Though, Wouldn't the better overall player the guy who gives

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Speaker 2: you more in the passing game.

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Speaker 8: Well, he's probably a better blocker, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he seems to be pretty darn good at

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Speaker 3: everything else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, like, if I said, hey,

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Speaker 2: he's a better overall player, wouldn't you be like, Okay.

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Speaker 8: We gotta take we gotta take LeVar out of the equation.

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Speaker 8: Liebacker or anybody else is gonna be the greatest thing

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Speaker 8: in the world. Even though it's programs and right now, Dawn,

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Speaker 8: I mean, you're gonna go tell me qual it. You know,

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Speaker 8: you gotta look that one up.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm. I mean you would like you would like

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Speaker 5: Kyle Brady. You know you're a Cayle Brady fans. That's

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Speaker 5: a Jaguar.

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Speaker 8: You know what? I used to say that Kyle Brady

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Speaker 8: had hosts for hands and he didn't like that.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's not very nice, Pete.

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Speaker 8: Kyle Brady, I'll be honest with you, Kyle Brady might

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Speaker 8: be one of the five nicest people that have And

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Speaker 8: a mule is a run blocker. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 8: he was just a great blocker. He just wasn't a

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Speaker 8: great sudden task catcher. And you don't draft great blockers

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Speaker 8: who aren't sudden pass catchers.

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Speaker 1: Where the Jets drafted, I'm pretty high, uh, Pete, I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about tonight's Monday night football game,

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Speaker 1: Jacoby for seconds to start again?

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Speaker 2: Is this to you, like truly or specifically injury related

804
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Speaker 2: for Caler Murray? Or is there a sense that maybe

805
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: the Cardinals like Prissette starting it gives him a better chance.

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Speaker 8: Is it a soft benching? Is that what you're asking me,

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Speaker 8: I mean, because that's what it sounds like, doesn't it.

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00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 8: It looks like it. But in any way shape or

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Speaker 8: for him, is Jacoby Brissett better than Kyler Murray?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 8: No, of course not, he's not. But is Kyler Murray

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Speaker 8: worth all that money that they're paying him to be

813
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Speaker 8: just a little bit better than Jacoby Brissett. I think

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Speaker 8: that's the question, isn't it? Is Kyler Murray that much

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Speaker 8: better than Jacoby Brissett?

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Speaker 5: I don't have that answer.

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Speaker 8: What would you?

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Speaker 7: I mean, what would you guys say?

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Speaker 3: He's pretty dynamic when he takes off and runs, man?

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Speaker 8: But is he that much better?

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Speaker 5: I'd say that much better?

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Speaker 8: He's better, There's no doubt he's better. But he's he's

823
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Speaker 8: that much better, and he's he worth paying him that

824
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Speaker 8: franchise money to be your just a little bit that

825
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Speaker 8: much better than than Jacoby Weresett. And he answered that

826
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Speaker 8: question is probably no, right now, it's hard.

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Speaker 5: Probably no.

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Speaker 8: Right So? Probably so if you play him, what what

829
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Speaker 8: do you if you're not playing him he's healthy, what

830
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Speaker 8: are you sending that? What message is that that he's

831
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Speaker 8: not going to be our long term answer? And that's

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Speaker 8: the answer. That's that's the that's what they're saying with

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Speaker 8: this fall benching. If he is healthy. If he is healthy,

834
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Speaker 8: by the way, and you or him when you say

835
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Speaker 8: I'm healthy, why the hell aren't I playing?

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Speaker 3: Well, haven't you not been a caller Murray fan for

837
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Speaker 3: a long time?

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Speaker 8: Though, No, I'm I mean no, I like my quarterbacks

839
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Speaker 8: to stand in the pocket make throws. I don't. I

840
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Speaker 8: don't want my quarterback running around all the time. So no, Well, you've.

841
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Speaker 2: Also you've made you taken shots some of us height too,

842
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: from just our past working together.

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Speaker 8: Is that her? Pete? Well, yeah, when he when he played,

844
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Speaker 8: when he played Bryce young and they beat him. This year,

845
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 8: they gave out a little tiny trophy for the winner.

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Speaker 2: Pete said, he said, he said that when he sits

847
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: on the curb his feet dangling.

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Speaker 3: Pete, that's rude.

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Speaker 8: Well, I can say this though, I'm tiny, so I

850
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Speaker 8: can say it. I mean I can, By the way,

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Speaker 8: I'd be looking up to both of them in case

852
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 8: anybody's wondering. And as I get older, I'll probably look

853
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 8: it up for you further because I shrink.

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Speaker 3: So so, Pete, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 4: Then you mentioned the Kyler Murray criticism, what do we

856
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: do with your guy, Trevor Lawrence? Because at some point

857
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: they are who they are, aren't they? And it just

858
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: feels like this has gone on quite a while and

859
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 4: we've just not seen the next step from him. Out

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Speaker 4: out of a second half of a playoff game against

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Speaker 4: the Chargers.

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00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 8: There's there is concern. I'm not going to sit here

863
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 8: and deny it, and and you definitely major concern, but

864
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 8: you're not basing out on yesterday. I mean one made

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Speaker 8: one band play and then he played pretty done good

866
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 8: the rest of the game, so I and granted it

867
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 8: was against the Raiders, but you know, the stupid the

868
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 8: stupidity of some of his plays are amazing to me.

869
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 8: And not getting to play in and being in one

870
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 8: of those situations where you're the play clock's always running

871
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 8: down and he's looking around, he has to call time out.

872
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 8: It seems to be no feel at times for him.

873
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 8: But you know, look is he like I always say,

874
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 8: he's not great, He's not awful. He just is And

875
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 8: for that money, he needs to be better than just

876
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 8: his and they know it, and they got to get

877
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 8: him going, There's no question about it. The problem is

878
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 8: Hunter's hurt Thomas is hurt now and Brenton Strange is hurt.

879
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 8: So your three top weapons aren't there at the end

880
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 8: of that game when they went down and got the game.

881
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 8: When he touched down, he's throwing Austin Trammell, Tim Jones

882
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 8: and Parker Washington. That's who he throw it. And Johnny

883
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 8: Washington is a good ball player's ball player, but he

884
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 8: should be a number three. He should be a number

885
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 8: three receiver. I don't know a one receiver.

886
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: I mean he's a pretty good receiver.

887
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 5: I saw good streaming at me Pete Prisco. He's a

888
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 5: really good ball player, that's all.

889
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 8: He's a good ball player.

890
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, that I was going to say, people, do you

891
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 5: have any coaches right now that are high on your

892
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: list for hot seat contenders? Like who who you have

893
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 5: on there? Like if they don't.

894
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 8: Well McDaniel, McDaniel's seed is like a flame thrower underneath it,

895
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 8: you should be. But they're gonna let him coach out

896
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 8: the season.

897
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 5: I think, do you think he makes the season? I

898
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: don't think he makes it through the end of the year.

899
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 5: I think I think it gets so bad they just

900
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 5: gotta let him go.

901
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 8: And but what's that solved though, That's why I always.

902
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

903
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: I would say it solves maybe morale. Maybe you give

904
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: the team an opportunity to have a morale boost by

905
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 5: having a different person, a different voice, you know, just

906
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 5: removing maybe what they have going on with him. I

907
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: don't really know what it solves, but I mean, obviously

908
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 5: it does happen.

909
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 8: If it gets to the point where like you're having

910
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 8: these like forty five to seven blowouts or something, then okay,

911
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 8: I'll give you that. But if they're competitive in games,

912
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 8: I don't think they fire them. I think Zach Taylor's

913
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 8: seat's probably a little hot. I would think that you

914
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 8: get the questionnaire, is you get the pass because your

915
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 8: quarterback got hurt? And the answer to that question is

916
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 8: probably no. Considering Joe Flacco two for four to seventy yesterday,

917
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 8: they still won and he changed coordinators, and ultimately you

918
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 8: keep changing coaches and it doesn't work. That falls at

919
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 8: the foot of you, and so I think he's on

920
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 8: the hot seat. I think Gable might be back on it.

921
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 8: I wouldn't make that change in the large part because

922
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 8: the quarterback situation needs to have some continuity. But I

923
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 8: could understand where he would be on it. I think

924
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 8: those are the guys you have to look at right.

925
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: Now, Pete.

926
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a coach challenge a call and

927
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: it completely gets flipped and reversed on them and they

928
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: end up loosing out on a touchdown?

929
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 8: It's amazing. I mean that was I don't know that.

930
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: I've ever seen that in the NFL.

931
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it was amazing. By the way, back

932
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 8: to coaches, who who firing coaches during the season. How's

933
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 8: that worked out for the Titans? They've kind of been rejuvenated,

934
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 8: haven't they.

935
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 5: They look real good, Pete Prisco, They look real, real

936
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 5: good at being bad, real good.

937
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 8: Well they were. They were crappy before they fired them,

938
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 8: they fire them, and they're crappy after they fire them.

939
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 8: So I mean, it's just it doesn't do anything. It

940
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 8: just doesn't. So sometimes unless you want to get ahead

941
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 8: of the process a little bit. But I don't know

942
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 8: how that helps. I just think it doesn't really change anything.

943
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 8: And if Miami Dolphins fired Mike mccandiel, what are they

944
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 8: gonna put in Anthony Weaver? I mean, what are they

945
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 8: gonna put in there?

946
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: Who are you gonna make the coach Ericusville.

947
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 8: What what's he's done it before? And have that work

948
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 8: out when he was it doesn't work, I Pete Prisco,

949
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 8: let him play it out.

950
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: UH will throw Pete Prisco in there, and Pete, it's

951
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: time for it before we let you go.

952
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: It's time for our favorite.

953
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 8: Second who said they want me in there because you

954
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 8: know what I bring a little toughness. I stop the

955
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 8: damn music during practice and stop awarding guys. Yeah, Jersey Orange,

956
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 8: takeing Orange jerseys if they practice hard, and then they

957
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 8: can pick the music the next day. You'll have that going. No,

958
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 8: I have eleven padded practices and on all eleven and

959
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 8: them you're gonna hit people. That's what you're gonna.

960
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 5: You're gonna break the rules and you're gonna get fined

961
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 5: and fired.

962
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 8: No, I'm not I'm gonna I'm not gonna get I'm

963
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 8: not gonna break the rules. But when I'm padded practice,

964
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 8: you're gonna hit. Because I think the hitting and attack

965
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 8: would need to happen. Is this league has gotten so

966
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 8: soft when it comes to that, and I think you

967
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 8: see it on.

968
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: Sunday's coming after you, Pete, Pete, It's time for our

969
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: favorite portion of the interview, which bet did you lose?

970
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: But we're on the right side of yesterday.

971
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 8: I had a bunch of them yesterday. Okay, I had

972
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 8: the Bengals one of my picks. These are my picks

973
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 8: and I and by the way, my picks horrible.

974
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: You can't say the Bengals they had no business being

975
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: in that thing.

976
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 8: Well, at the end of the game, you're getting two

977
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 8: and a half, you think you're gonna win the game

978
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 8: on a.

979
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: Field goal and the two touchdowns.

980
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 8: Okay, So then then the Bengals. Then there was what

981
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 8: was the other one? There was? There were two more?

982
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 8: Oh where it was late? Oh, Jacksonville right up the

983
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 8: touchdown late okay they were covering yea, so great that no,

984
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 8: I was. I had the Falcons in that one, so

985
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 8: that was a good miss extra point. And then who's

986
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 8: the other one I had? Just there were three of

987
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 8: them that when you look at them and you go, okay,

988
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 8: that's those three slip and you're actually doing okay, So yeah,

989
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 8: so I'll take those.

990
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think what the other one would have been,

991
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: h steal it. No, Broncos Texans there.

992
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 8: It is Broncos Texans.

993
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 3: That was that should have been a win or two

994
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: it should have been apparently wasn't. Well.

995
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: I had a couple of weeks straight where I had

996
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 5: they should have been winners, Pete, So don't worry about it.

997
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 8: By the way, as bad as I was this week,

998
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 8: Ward has is that my uh the guy I compete against,

999
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 8: like you used to compete against Brady. Yeah, I had

1000
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 8: the worst week and I was terrible.

1001
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 5: Brady's doing pretty well.

1002
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 8: Man.

1003
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 5: I hate to say it, like at.

1004
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: Least you know because I used to whoop that ass

1005
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 2: every time we'd.

1006
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: Go against you did not you.

1007
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: Act like it was even close. We had to change

1008
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: the rules for you just to make it entertaining.

1009
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 8: It was always close, and it was not always close.

1010
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: It was not.

1011
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 8: It was always close.

1012
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: And there were a couple of years.

1013
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: There were a couple of years where I want, buddy,

1014
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: you never.

1015
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: Won one buddy, never want buddy, never won by hey,

1016
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 5: hey buddy, never.

1017
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 3: One, Hey pal, you didn't win. Work to a bunch of.

1018
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 8: Forget about it, forget about it. I won, but he

1019
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 8: has he.

1020
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: Can't PiZZ It's pizza type that is like I'm gonna

1021
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: take my ball and go home because I can't win.

1022
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: That's how Pete.

1023
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 8: Is no, I'm not. I'm just like you. Never could

1024
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 8: say you were wrong ever.

1025
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: I was.

1026
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll put it this way, I was. I was

1027
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: wrong about a number of games. But there was no

1028
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: worse beat than the one I talked about earlier. This

1029
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: earlier today, UVA getting a pick six with twenty five

1030
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: seconds left to cover versus Cow. That was a flip

1031
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: in ald timer like from midfield. Usually the guy's catch.

1032
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: Days go down, runs it all the way back.

1033
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 8: That was a bad Why did he run it back?

1034
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: Have you no idea you got money on it? Maybe

1035
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: maybe he's got money on it.

1036
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 8: Did you have cause this Cow one of your picks.

1037
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: I had col plus five and a half. I thought

1038
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: it'd be close. I thought you Va might win, but

1039
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: I thought it be close.

1040
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 8: Oh wow, what about somebody I was reading where somebody

1041
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 8: said that the Florida game, the kid went down at

1042
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 8: the one yard lift.

1043
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah got her stuff, And yeah he should have if

1044
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 4: he would have run in and they would have covered.

1045
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: But he made the smart play.

1046
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1047
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 8: You make a smart play.

1048
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 3: Pete always appreciate it.

1049
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 4: You can get him on AX again at Prisco CBS

1050
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: Senior NFL Calumnist for a CBS Sports, CBS.

1051
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 5: Get out of here.

1052
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: You have a good day. Priscoe will do to me

1053
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: next week.

1054
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 8: I got one quick question, Why the hell is Prienn

1055
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 8: State a marquee game again this week? What the hell?

1056
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: It was just just pre pre uh man, the rate lovers.

1057
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: There's haters, but people watch.

1058
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, pre determined, Pete. We're up against it, but we

1059
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: will do it again next week.

1060
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: You're a hater period.

1061
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 5: Kick you in your chest when I see you again talking, Yeah,

1062
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna kick you in the chest.