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Speaker 3: up with Pete Prisco coming up here in about twenty

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Speaker 3: minutes from now. Let's see how he tries to spin

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Speaker 3: the fact that he said Michael Parsons is going to

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Speaker 3: sign an extension with the Cowboys last last week, only

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Speaker 3: to get traded to the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, full disclosure. I thought the same thing, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think Dallas would get rid of them.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody thought the same thing if they're being honest.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who really thought the Cowboys were their best

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Speaker 1: player right season?

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Speaker 2: Like you know what, I I'm sitting here watching not

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Speaker 2: to change topics or whatever, but I mean I've sitting

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Speaker 2: there watching the highlights of the USC game. And I

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Speaker 2: can recall as a head coach, one game we played

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Speaker 2: against Heritage Christian, and Heritage Christian had an offensive line

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Speaker 2: and their offensive line ultimately went both ways, like two

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Speaker 2: or three of them went both ways, and they were

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Speaker 2: like six foot plus and they were like at two

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Speaker 2: ninety right around two ninety three hundred pounds, which in

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Speaker 2: high school football, that's it's hard to come up with

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Speaker 2: guys that are big and can play ball. You can

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Speaker 2: find one but not the other most often. And they

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Speaker 2: knocked my best player out of the game in the

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Speaker 2: first quarter, like my best player gone concussed, like he

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Speaker 2: was chewing on his tongue on the sideline. My quarterback said,

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Speaker 2: the hell with this, y'all not blocking any They're getting

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Speaker 2: right to me. I don't have time to make my

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Speaker 2: first read. We handed off. The running back is getting

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Speaker 2: be helpless as a coach and watch this for four quarters.

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Speaker 2: It has to be I bet Bill Belichick if he

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Speaker 2: felt anything remotely close to the feelings of helplessness that

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Speaker 2: I felt. I was discouraged, I was bewildered.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked.

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Speaker 2: I was scared.

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Speaker 1: I was scared for my players.

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Speaker 2: I was scared for my job. That's a lot of

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Speaker 2: pain for when you really think about when that game

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Speaker 2: started to get away from them, that's a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of time that Bill Belichick had to be in his

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Speaker 2: felt his pain because I've been there once or twice

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Speaker 2: before as a coach where you just said there was

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Speaker 1: Why does uh Brett McMurphy have an extra grind with

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's such a douche, Like what what the whole

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Speaker 1: Can you read off his tweets?

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Speaker 2: Man, it's kind of cold blooded. That's that's Salento.

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Speaker 1: Probably it's probably typing for him, not him.

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Speaker 3: So this from a Brett McMurphy went on a rampage

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Speaker 3: last night because apparently, you know, he's all you know,

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Speaker 3: he's got a weird obsession with Belichick's girlfriend. From Brett McMurphy.

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Speaker 3: Weird stat in the history of college football. Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: champion coaches with twenty four year old girlfriends have never

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Speaker 3: won any games as a college head coach.

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Speaker 2: Next one.

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Speaker 3: Not sure if there's enough time left, but if TCU

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Speaker 2: That is a good one though.

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Speaker 3: Ironically, unc backup quarterback Max Johnson is twenty four years old,

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Speaker 3: the same age as Jordan Hudson. Bill Belichick's girlfriendy what

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Speaker 3: a tool?

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Speaker 2: What a tool?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, he wasn't alone, Like there's so many people who

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Speaker 2: See They never showed her. They hit her away, right

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Speaker 1: They showed her.

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Speaker 2: Did they show her later on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well she was up there with I want to say,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: then because they didn't, like, they didn't highlight show her

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Speaker 2: when they showed that group. They were just showing Michael

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Speaker 2: Jordan and the Beast, Roy Williams and LT Right, it went.

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Speaker 1: Like they I saw her in that booth.

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Speaker 2: I think I didn't see her, but I tuned out

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Speaker 2: after the third quarter, like after it got really really

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Speaker 2: Like who cares? Why does anybody care? I don't know people,

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Speaker 2: you know, I always say when the haters come out

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Speaker 2: Is it because she's hot and and and he's not

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Speaker 2: a discussion? No? No, it just doesn't even It doesn't

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Speaker 2: make the light of day. But he's sitting there and

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Speaker 2: he's you know, he feels the way he feels, so

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Speaker 2: he said what he said. And when you lose, you

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Speaker 2: get the opportunity to shoot your hate, you get to

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Speaker 2: throw your SA grenades. That's just that's how it works.

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Speaker 2: I mean if they win, Like everybody was pumped up

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Speaker 2: after that first drived, which about the way Q can

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Speaker 2: I ask you this, if you have a drive where

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Speaker 2: you can get a defense off balance as well as

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Speaker 2: they did. They tempoed them very well. It looked really

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Speaker 2: going to adjust. They have to adjust. That's the name

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Speaker 2: over again. Here's your turn, here's our turn. How do

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Speaker 2: scripted plays. How do you not find your way back

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Speaker 1: I think the first thing is a couple of things

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Speaker 1: by the way, from from what we saw like from

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Speaker 1: a little bit snippets of it, But you just worry

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Speaker 1: I think there was probably a thought too. They knew

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Speaker 1: he found a bit more of a rhythm. It tired

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Speaker 1: more opportunities. I don't know why more coaches don't go

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Speaker 1: that breakneck fast pace up tempo offense, that like, that's

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Speaker 1: You ask most defenses and they'll tell you the most

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Speaker 1: difficult thing is to deal with the back and forth

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Speaker 1: jumping in and out of it now. But it's also

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Speaker 1: hard for an offense to find a rhythm that way too,

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of pick your poison. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I think last night, between the injury, between them being

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Speaker 1: itself up in UNC and then TCU, which again played

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Speaker 1: in the National Championship a few years ago, I look

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Speaker 1: at it and just say, they're just on two completely

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Speaker 1: to accomplish. So it was a tough night for Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: a tough night for North Carolina football fans. Bubba Conningham,

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Speaker 1: their athletic director, because in that place looked like they

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Speaker 1: got excited about the debut of Bill Belichick. You know,

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Speaker 2: Out of that stadium.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's just it was not the debut that

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Speaker 1: really to see Bill Belichick. That wasn't I think quite

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Speaker 1: But damn it was close.

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Speaker 2: Man, Oh geez was bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, of all the things that we

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Speaker 1: this is a close set.

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Speaker 2: You want to know why it's so bad, It is

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Speaker 2: because you were like, yep, this is what we expected.

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Speaker 2: Soon as they came out and ran down the field,

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Speaker 2: went down the field, score it was like, oh yeah, yep, yep,

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. Look at look at the operation. Look look

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Speaker 2: at how well organized they are. This is a finely

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Speaker 2: a chance to fit it. I didn't get a chance

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Speaker 2: to finish complimenting you. And then it was gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean they was showing lt LT was point like

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Speaker 2: just pointing, that's my guy, that's my guy. Im Jay

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Speaker 2: stood up, standing up like he does. Hit the game

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Speaker 2: winner gets.

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Speaker 3: By the way over under on number of games that

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan gets to uh for the rest of the

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Speaker 3: Upper North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I'll set it in a half. I will take the under.

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Speaker 2: I will too. I think sticks picks but knocked the under.

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Speaker 2: I never coming back to his head. You got you

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Speaker 2: got me off my yacht for this, you said, Bill Belichick?

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Speaker 1: Is that the only head coach who had problems?

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Speaker 2: Though? J honest?

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Speaker 1: Does any other head coaches have some issues?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: I mean, uh, Belichick's Belichick's dear friend is Nick Saban

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Speaker 6: So it's just you know, again, these guys have already

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Speaker 3: So that was Caitlin de Boor, the Alabama head coach

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Speaker 4: the nineteen forties on the sideline and he was there

437
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Speaker 4: watching the game, and then they say it was LeVar Arrington.

438
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Speaker 4: I go, my god, what happened to?

439
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Speaker 1: Oh god, right out the gate bar, you know, Pete.

440
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: Just let you have that, Pete.

441
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Speaker 6: You know, I love you back, Pete, I love you.

442
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: But you made who was standing?

443
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Speaker 2: Who standing?

444
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 4: And they said, oh my god, you look like you

445
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 4: would disabuse him and throw him to the wall and

446
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 4: beat the daylights. I mean, you were like double his

447
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: you're big.

448
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

449
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Speaker 2: I heard it out a lot that I'm a big dude.

450
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Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I think I'm obese, and I

451
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: fight that. I deal with that. I deal with.

452
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: You was just always a big you. Forget how big

453
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: you were when you played Ransom.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, big guys, A big boy, Pete. I wanna want

455
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Speaker 1: to pick your brain about last night. I assumed you

456
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Speaker 1: watched the deput of Bill Belichick at at the u

457
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Speaker 1: n C him. All right, go ahead and just take

458
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Speaker 1: it away.

459
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Speaker 4: Well, it just proves that players matter. I mean, and

460
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 4: you know, I guess Michael Barty hasn't done his job

461
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: there aline because they don't have any players.

462
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Speaker 1: So I mean, is what you're saying, Well.

463
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Speaker 4: I mean, look, we know Belichick can coach, but it

464
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you don't have players. And clearly they

465
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: don't have any players, because okay, you might lose that game,

466
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 4: but they get beat the way you got beat. That

467
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: tells you that the roster's not very good. And so

468
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: from that standpoint, it's going to be a tough turnaround

469
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Speaker 4: for them. I don't care how good a coach you are,

470
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Speaker 4: If you it's it's always been about players, It always

471
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Speaker 4: will be in it always has been.

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Speaker 1: You're right, you're right. And then look, I think love art,

473
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Speaker 1: I both fel the way maybe Jonas does you know

474
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Speaker 1: he's a player, But what I was going to ask

475
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Speaker 1: you is do you feel like also, it's just they're

476
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Speaker 1: two different leagues. There are almost two different sports. Like,

477
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Speaker 1: as good as you can be at the NFL level,

478
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Speaker 1: it's hard to then jump into college. I think you

479
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Speaker 1: can have the same success or as good as you

480
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Speaker 1: gonna be in college to jump in the NFL and

481
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Speaker 1: have the same success.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're two different games, but it's also structured two

483
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Speaker 4: different ways too. I mean, if you gave Bill Belichick

484
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Speaker 4: Oregon money and Oregon's program or Ohio State's money in

485
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: Ohio States program, you'd win there too. I Mean it's

486
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: really simple in college football. If you get the players

487
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Speaker 4: and you pay the players, you're gonna win. And you know,

488
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Speaker 4: now you pay them legally. Back in the day, you

489
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Speaker 4: pay them legally, and so yeah, I look. And in

490
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Speaker 4: the NFL you have a cap. You got to manage

491
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Speaker 4: the cap, and you got to manage your drafts, and

492
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Speaker 4: you got to be good at that. It's different. It's

493
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Speaker 4: really an entirely different thing. I mean college football, you

494
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Speaker 4: can have one year. Okay, let's say North Carolina unloads

495
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Speaker 4: with money. Next year, they just find anything and everything

496
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Speaker 4: they could possibly get, and they start paying guys to

497
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Speaker 4: come out of the portal. You don't think they're going

498
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Speaker 4: to be a better football team. Of course they will be.

499
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Speaker 4: It's really a simple thing. Players win. They always will.

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Speaker 2: I thought that's what they did this year. But I

501
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Speaker 2: guess I guess not well.

502
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Speaker 4: I mean maybe they need a new general manager. Whoever.

503
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Speaker 2: They brought in a lot of new players through that portal.

504
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Speaker 2: I thought that's what they did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, them. I think there's seventy guys, and I think

506
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Speaker 4: thirty something of them came after spring ball.

507
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Speaker 1: I mean, pretty hard to get forty our transfers. Thirty

508
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Speaker 1: are freshmen. So that's the talk.

509
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Speaker 4: Okay, seventy new players, Yeah.

510
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Speaker 2: It's a lot. That's a lot. Speaking speaking of transferring,

511
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Speaker 2: I'm going to steal it because I know Jonas wants

512
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Speaker 2: to do it, and I'm jumping in because, well it's

513
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Speaker 2: my guy. You you said they all play, and you

514
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Speaker 2: said that it was pretty much a lock that Michael

515
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Speaker 2: Parsons would be playing for the Dallas Cowboys, but now

516
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Speaker 2: he goes to the Green Bay Packers. Just give us

517
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Speaker 2: your take on on what took place.

518
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Speaker 4: Playing Are you playing?

519
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd assume he's going to play.

520
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 4: Of course he's gonna play.

521
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Speaker 2: They all play. I thought you were talking about the

522
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Speaker 2: Hell show. But you said he was going to show

523
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Speaker 2: up for the Dallas Cowboys, Pete.

524
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Speaker 4: Priscott if they had traded showed up for the Dallas Cowy.

525
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Speaker 2: So you were on the right side of your prediction.

526
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Speaker 4: I'm always on the right side of that predict. They

527
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Speaker 4: all show play. Who's not playing? By the way, this

528
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: week the games start on Thursday, which NFL player isn't

529
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 4: playing because of this contract?

530
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Speaker 2: I mean you make a valid point. It's a valid point.

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Speaker 4: It's like I said, all summer long, they all play,

532
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: whether whether he gets traded or not, they all play.

533
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: And look, I think if you're the Green Bay Packers,

534
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 4: it's a great move. And normally I'll be the first

535
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 4: one to say this. I hate trade and page because

536
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: you're giving up valuable assets and draft picks to get

537
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: a guy and then you have to unload the money

538
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: on him and that's going to be a salary cap

539
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: problem for you. But this guy's twenty six years old.

540
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: It's not like he's, you know, thirty. You're trading for

541
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: a guy in his prime and the one thing and

542
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: when I was in Green Bay, the one thing sitting

543
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: in metla Floor's office he said is we got to

544
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: rush the passer better. And now they're going to rush

545
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 4: the passer better. It balances that defensive line, It gives

546
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: it you know, Gary on one side, Hid on the other.

547
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: Ben could come in and now all of a sudden

548
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: they get after the quarterback. So I usually hate trade

549
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 4: and pays, but I think it works for the Packers.

550
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 4: By the way, you guys know, I had the Packers

551
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl even yeah, right, so even before

552
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: that trade, and now I think even more so. So

553
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: I think think it's a great trade. From the Cowboys standpoint, Look,

554
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: you never let a guy like that go out the door.

555
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: But you also got to look at it from the

556
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Speaker 4: standpoint that what they win when he was there. And

557
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 4: so if you get those two picks and now you

558
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 4: have four first round picks, and you know, you can

559
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 4: have a ton of cap room. They have the second

560
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: most cap room in the league. Now there could be

561
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 4: some flexibility there as well. The problem with that is

562
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 4: who's fixing the roster. I mean, you know you're going

563
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: to leave that in the hand of Jerry Jones to

564
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: go fix that, you know, make that, take those picks

565
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: and turn them into something really good. That's a problem.

566
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Speaker 3: Hey, Pete, what's the difference between Jerry Jones and Woody Johnson,

567
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Speaker 3: Because it doesn't feel like there's there's much of a

568
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: difference these days.

569
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Speaker 4: Well, Jerry has football decision making powers and wood he doesn't, exactly,

570
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Speaker 4: although he sticks his.

571
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Speaker 2: Nose into it, you know, but maybe Jerry shouldn't at

572
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: this point, you.

573
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Speaker 4: Know, maybe he's GM. Did you watch the special on

574
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: that line? I mean, yeah, I mean, Jerry's not going

575
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: to step away from any of that, and and so

576
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: you know, wood he doesn't do it on a day

577
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: to day basis much more involved than people think he is. Though,

578
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: I think that's always.

579
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: A bad thing.

580
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: By the way, when when owners get involved in football

581
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: making decisions, it's a terrible, terrible thing because they have

582
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: no earthly idea what the hell they're doing. Now, Jerry's

583
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: been around the game, played the game, he's you know,

584
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: he portrays himself as a general manager. It's a little different.

585
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: But when Woody Johnson starts sticking his nose in there

586
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: making football decisions, that's not a good thing. Or any

587
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: owner I don't think. I just don't think that they're

588
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: capable of doing it. And that's why you need football

589
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: people in those decisions making positions, and they could come

590
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: to you and say, look, we're going to make this

591
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: blockbuster trade. We're gonna go what are you on board

592
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: with that? Because you obviously have to go to him,

593
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: you have to pay the guy, and you say, yeah,

594
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: you go, okay, that's fine. Not them making the decisions

595
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: or telling you bench this guy or play that guy.

596
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: That's not what you should be doing. You worry about

597
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: to ching ki ching ching and just keep rolling up

598
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: the cast register, which is what they all do.

599
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: Hey, Pete, are you surprised there's no other teams though?

600
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm seeing some articles now coming out where

601
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel was asked with the Patriots, because they would

602
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: have made a lot of sense. They have cap space,

603
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: they have a need for it, but apparently they didn't

604
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: want to pursue Michael Parsons. Do you have any idea why.

605
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: I was just Green Bay and this is the best

606
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: defensive player in the league and there's only one team

607
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: bidding for his services.

608
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that you hear and talking

609
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: to people after the trade was made, was that a

610
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: lot of teams were reluctant to bring him into the

611
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: building because you know, look, whether you liked it or not,

612
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: And I have no problem with it.

613
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: Podcast be careful with podcasts.

614
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: His podcast turned off some people. He wasn't you know

615
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: people if some teams see him as a problem in

616
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: the building, and I, look, I hadn't seen that. So

617
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you what i've heard.

618
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: Don't be doing that.

619
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Speaker 4: What I'm just it's out there, LeVar.

620
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, got you put it out there.

621
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm just telling you what teams say. So when

622
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: teams say that, that's why I don't think there was

623
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: such a great market for Look, when you have a

624
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: twenty six year old elite pass rusher in the prime

625
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: of his career come available and there isn't just a

626
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: market fighting for to get him, doesn't that isn't that

627
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: a little bit of a red flag.

628
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: Of bar just it depends on what the red flag is.

629
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: It Is it the contract? I think, well, I think

630
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: the amount of money was the red flag. Honestly, here's

631
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: the other thing.

632
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: Here's the other thing. Are you now seeing them where

633
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: the edge rusher has become the quarterback, that the elite

634
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: edge rusher has become the quarterback in terms of the money,

635
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: and that's always making teams out there a little more

636
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: reluctant to go pay them, because let's go through the

637
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: let's go through the edge rushers who've been paid.

638
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: Okay, we talked about this earlier, but go ahead. I

639
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: think you got Yeah.

640
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, they winning Nah, DJ Watt and they won nah.

641
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: You know, going and on.

642
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: They're competitive in Pittsburgh. They're competitive at Pittsburgh. I thought

643
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: you were about to throw out, like you know, Brady

644
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: threw out Khalil Mack earlier. If Pete, what about Max Crosby,

645
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: what about him?

646
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: There's another one. There's another one. The elite looks and

647
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: then and then some guys they say that now that

648
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: you'd rather pay the elite interior guy because he can

649
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: really disrupt in the.

650
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: Interior in Dallas then got to him. Dallas got to

651
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco, Dallas got to you. They got to you, Pete,

652
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: they got to you.

653
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: No, they don't.

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Speaker 2: Then they get an interior lineman and and in exchange

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Speaker 2: for Michael Parsons along and and that trade, by the way.

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with it, So I'm just telling I

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Speaker 4: don't agree. I'm just telling you something stuff about that.

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with that, rushers, But would you rather

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Speaker 4: hears one? Would you rather have Aaron Donald in his prime?

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Speaker 2: Not for compared, Aaron Donald can play outside and rush

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Speaker 2: from the outside just as well as he can rush

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Speaker 2: from the inside.

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Speaker 4: Would you rather have Jalen Carter and now who's ready

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Speaker 4: to go to the elite's status from that, say he's

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Speaker 4: elite this year of that position or the edge guy?

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Speaker 2: I mean again, if I can get a guy that

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Speaker 2: can do what they do on the inside and what

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Speaker 2: they do on the outside, but they have to be

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Speaker 2: able to do it at an elite level on the

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Speaker 2: outside too. It's like they're playing two positions. You can

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Speaker 2: play them in two separate positions and get the same

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Speaker 2: type of production that you would get, if not better

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Speaker 2: than the person that don't play.

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Speaker 1: Edge edge they can put They've put.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Carter on the edge at Tome. He's not going

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Speaker 2: to play there all the time, but you can use

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Speaker 2: them there. One can use him in a three linemen

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Speaker 2: alignment six technique. Yeah, yeah, you can do that. But

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying a guy that can play inside, out,

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Speaker 2: outside in is always to me, they're way more valuable

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Speaker 2: than anybody else. But that's you're talking about like one

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Speaker 2: of one in each of those situations, like Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 2: Name another Aaron Donald. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Chris own Prime, Okay, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Jones because he can play, Yes, because he can play

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Speaker 2: on the edge as well as on the inside.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, okay. So so LeVar starting to agree with

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Speaker 4: the league guys who said the interior guys are more value.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're more valuable if they're just an

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Speaker 2: interior guy. If they can play outside just as effectively

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Speaker 2: as they do inside, I think that they hold value.

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Speaker 4: They don't play outside that much. They can do it,

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Speaker 4: but they don't.

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Speaker 2: But they can and they can do it effectively, which

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Speaker 2: is but it gives you. It gives your defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: more latitude and and and the ability to be more

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Speaker 2: creative and the things that they're doing. If you have

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Speaker 2: a guy that you can move around like that, and

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Speaker 2: it makes it difficult to game plan a guy that

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Speaker 2: if you don't, if you don't prepare well for him,

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Speaker 2: you might be seeing him on the edge for the

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Speaker 2: bulk of the plays and you weren't even anticipating seeing

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Speaker 2: him out there, and that could create a problem. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, guys that have that type of versatility don't

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Speaker 2: come around very often. It's not it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: a usual deal.

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Speaker 4: But here's the other part of it. Would you rather

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Speaker 4: have two twenty two million dollar edge players or one?

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Speaker 2: And that's the conversation that was ensuing before. I just

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Speaker 2: think that again, game impact versus versus stats are two

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Speaker 2: different things. If I got a guy that can impact

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Speaker 2: the game, like a franchise player impacts the game, I

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Speaker 2: want the franchise player impact player versus oh I was

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Speaker 2: able to replace the production of how many sacks he

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Speaker 2: got through three guys that got I mean, where did

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Speaker 2: those three sacks that they replaced? Where did they come

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Speaker 2: in in the game? How did it impact the game?

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, by the way, Levarcus, I always I

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Speaker 4: always say fourth quarter, game on the line, sack, fumble,

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Speaker 4: game over. I want that guy.

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Speaker 2: I want that guy.

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Speaker 4: And Michael Parsons is that guy.

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Speaker 1: You want a closer that's the equivalent to a closer

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and football, right, correct.

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Speaker 4: Correct, And but the other thing about him is you

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Speaker 4: can move him up and down the line too, and

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Speaker 4: rushing from every different spot if you want to. You've

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Speaker 4: seen him do that in Dallas. I think he can

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Speaker 4: rush from riety positions and there's what you can do

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Speaker 4: with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've all seen edge rushers who can move down

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Speaker 1: inside and rush.

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Speaker 4: But he does this. He does it with and is

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Speaker 4: very effective doing it. There's guys that do it and

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Speaker 4: then they you know, they're nuts that good at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pete, you're the best. Congrats to your sun devils too.

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Speaker 1: Want to know, baby, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't very good from what I hear.

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Speaker 4: It was the speed was terrible on the ESPN. Plus

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Speaker 4: he couldn't see it. It was the blacked it out.

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Speaker 4: It was terrible. And then I heard they weren't very good.

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Speaker 4: Tough game. This is to be state. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Brady Austin Simmons looked damn good the other night, looked

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Speaker 4: really good the other night.

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Speaker 1: He did, as did a bunch of other guys like

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Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood, like Maleague Washington who we've talked about, like CJ. Carr,

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Speaker 1: like I can keep going. Yeah, dude, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of good quarterback play right.

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Speaker 3: Now, Arch didn't look very good a Pete, Pete quickly,

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Speaker 3: uh real, quick answer.

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Speaker 2: Arizona State Girls Volleyball your your super Bowl pick before

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Speaker 2: the season starts.

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Speaker 4: Thursday's what Buffalo Green Bay with the Bills winning it?

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Speaker 3: There you go go screw you leading, all right? So

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Speaker 3: get him on X at Prisco CBS.

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Speaker 2: Heard me right, Yeah, yeah, y'all knocked off the number

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Speaker 2: two Lady Lions and volleyball. So as you did get

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Speaker 2: a big win this past weekend, so we got that going.

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Speaker 2: I got that going for you. Yeah all right, So

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Speaker 2: there he is great. Pete Prisco with us here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: These might smell a little funk so incredible, but they're

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Speaker 2: still good.

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Speaker 3: Time to find out what's lacks?

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Speaker 7: What do we got?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 9: I think I really do need to go to the

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Speaker 9: er or the urgent care because now my wrist is

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Speaker 9: hard to bend and my elbow is getting harder to bend.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll see if I make it. Make it?

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Speaker 2: So huh from the beastings? So we should do beast

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Speaker 2: things instead of blue choose, then, is what you're saying?

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Speaker 1: Are you allergic to beastings? There Harry out earlier? No,

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Speaker 1: I heard, but like, wouldn't you know when.

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Speaker 2: Did you get stung Sunday? If you're still dealing with it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know right away you wouldn't take.

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Speaker 9: You No, No, it's not like the first time I've

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Speaker 9: been stung by a bee.

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Speaker 2: But that s is still swollen. Q. That's all I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Like, buddy, I don't I don't think you understand his

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Speaker 1: body is supposedly all without alcohol, like seventy two hours,

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Speaker 1: there's there's withdrawal, setting.

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Speaker 2: It with a swollen arm, swoorn everything. Dang, I mean

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Speaker 2: face right now, Dang, it's definitely the beard. See your ankles, Lee,

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Speaker 2: when you got that sugar foot, Get that boy a

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Speaker 2: piece of candy. Boy, get that boy, piece of candy.

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Speaker 2: Grandma pulled out that peppermint. Put it under your tongue.

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Speaker 1: Butter Scotch, please.

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Speaker 2: Bet Butter Scott or that hot fire dip that they

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Speaker 2: that world was original, lemonhead, you get better, get that

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Speaker 2: sugar on your tongue. Player, Celeia, you going to urge

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Speaker 2: your care right after the show or what? Well?

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Speaker 9: First I got to stopped by the liquor store and

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Speaker 9: get some sugar and get a power ball because the

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Speaker 9: power ball has gone from one point one billion to

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Speaker 9: one point three.

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Speaker 2: What does it matter if you're going to swell up

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Speaker 2: to death?

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Like, what do you care? Why do you care? You know?

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Speaker 2: I'll show you. We're ordering a breathalyzer test to about

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Speaker 2: We're going to start this