1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Draft Prospect Review podcast on Patriots dot 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Com Radio. Welcome to the NFL Draft. The Draft Prospect 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Review podcast is your source for all the latest news 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: and information on the NFL Draft. The New England Patriots 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: like now here to preview the offensive lineman. The writers 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: of Patriots dot Com Time once again for another draft 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: prospect review here at Jillette Stadium. Might do so and 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Nevin Lazarre alongside Grandpa Parrello for some draft coverage and 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: always my favorite, these are my favorite podcasts the offensive line. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: What do I like to say, Douce about the offensive line? 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Do it on your own time. Do it on your 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: own time. So I'm going to allow you guys to 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: do it on my time. So I'll make it compromise. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: It'll be partly my time, but I'm gonna allow you 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: guys to do it here, Paul, isn't it our time? Correct, 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: mister Hunt? And uh? And I have to say, as 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: much as I like to use the snark, I lean 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: on the snark. There's a reason to be interested in 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line, specifically the tackles this season. And that 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: is the one position, Evan, that I will allow it. 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I will allow it if there's a tackle that you 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: like and you think he's a left tackle of the future, 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: he's worthy of a first round pick because, in all seriousness, 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: if you're going to get a tackle, yeah, you can 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: find him later on in the draft, but the more 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: tried and true method in the NFL is to identify 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: a guy that you think can be you a left 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: tackle for ten years, and you got to take him early. 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, with that said, I think I think we 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: all agree that tackle is a need. There's a lot 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: of different guys. Yeah, there's a lot of different guys 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: out there. You know who stands out to you, guys? 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say real quick. I mean, you know, 34 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: they added Calvin Anderson, they added Riley Reef, so you know, 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: it's certainly going into the offseason was a huge need. 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: And not to say that it's not a need now, 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: but they did enough right now where you're like, is 38 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: it the biggest, biggest need? Maybe? Um, but there's a 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: lot of good guys right at the top end. Well, 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to make a two to one. I'm in 41 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: favor of Evan, You're in favor of getting a guy. 42 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm with Evan. I think it's the biggest need on 43 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: the board. I think they did a great job of 44 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: bolstering the depth that tackle. They do not have starters. Yeah, 45 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing. And you also just 46 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: look at long term as well. Over the next couple 47 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: of years, Riley Reef and Calvin Anderson two year deals 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: for each of them. Trent Brown in a contract year, 49 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: and I just really am reluctant of going into the 50 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: season counting on two of those three starting for seventeen 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: plus games. And I also think you look at the 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: quarterback that you have, and we know statistically when Mac 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: Jones is under pressure, his numbers plummet. And now that's 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: true for a lot of quarterbacks, but he was one 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: of the worst passers in the league while under pressure 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: last season by QBR, I think he was the worst 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league under pressure. So if you're gonna 58 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: make it work with Mac Jones, you have got to 59 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: keep him clean and the best way to do that 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: is to invest in one of these tackles in the 61 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: first round. It's not the sexiest pick. I know Paul 62 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: would would speak to that. It's it's not the you know, 63 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: the most exciting thing to do. But I think it's 64 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: by far their biggest need in terms of upside and 65 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: long term potential. Better to talk about sexy than me, 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: that's right. So you guys there there are a handful 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: of first round projected first round picks anyway, depending on 68 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: where you look. Three four guys anyway, and some others 69 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: that people are high on that you know, like Northwestern's 70 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Peter Scronski, who some people aren't really sure exactly if 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: he will translate to tackle. He may be a guard. Yeah. 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: So out of these guys, the Paris Johnsons, the Broderick 73 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: Jones and whatnot, who stands out? Who's the guy that's 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: at the top of your list? If you could say, well, 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna fall exactly right for the Patriots, so they're 76 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna have the pick of the litter at fourteen at tackle. 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Which would be the guy that stands out? I mean, 78 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: I'd go with Broderick Jones. I just I really enjoy 79 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: watching him. I think he's tough, he has questions like 80 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, Paris Johnson does two where these guys haven't 81 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: played a lot of football season a season and a half, 82 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: and then Skronski's played a lot, but he has some 83 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: size concerns. So I think any of these guys trying 84 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: to plug in at left tackle immediately there are some questions. 85 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed Broderick Jones. I just think at 86 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: this point, you know, as Evan kind of alluded, you 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: need somebody long term, and so if you're gonna maybe 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: take some lumps early with him or maybe Paris Johnson 89 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: as they develop, I'd be okay with taking a little 90 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: bit of that chance with those guys because I think 91 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: long term, you're talking he'll be your starter for the 92 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: next ten years. I don't know, but maybe he'll get 93 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: past the first contract here in New England. That'd be nice. Yeah, 94 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: about time. But with Paris Johnson and Brodrick Jones, it's 95 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: a classic ceiling floor argument. The floor pick is Paris Johnson, 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: the ceiling is Brodrick Jones. Paris Johnson has some technical 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: things that I think he's gonna have to work on. 98 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: With his hands and with his leverage and pass protection, 99 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: he can get bull rushed back into the pocket. He 100 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: did it a couple of times against Georgia. Lucas Vanesse, 101 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: one of the people's favorite edge prospects in this class, 102 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: took him for a ride last year against Iowa. So 103 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: those are those are guys that give him problems, the 104 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: guys that get into his chest and are able to 105 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: push him back. He's got thirty six in sharps, but 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't use him right. He doesn't extend his arms 107 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: and really get his hands out there to first contact. 108 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: But Roderick Jones is somebody that in pass protection is very, 109 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: very inconsistent. He's he either shutting you down or he's 110 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: whiffing and getting beat instantly. So he's gonna have some 111 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: things to do with his footwork, with his posture. He 112 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of ducks his head and leans into contact and 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: lunges at guys a little bit too much. But when 114 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: you watch this guy block in the open field, it's 115 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: like watching a tight He just blocks and loves it. 116 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: There's very few guys in the league that I can 117 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: think of that have his ability to block in space 118 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: at such a high level. He is a weapon in 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: the screen game, like if you throw a screen to 120 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: a receiver or running back to his side and get 121 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: him out there where he can block linebackers and dbs. 122 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: It's a factor for defenses. So he's a difference maker 123 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: at the position. Whereas I think Paris Johnson is just 124 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: more don't worry about it. Plug him in. You're gonna 125 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: have a nice left tackle for the next five to 126 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: ten years whatever, you know, old saying you wanted to 127 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: contract and you don't have to worry about it. So 128 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: Evan brought up the performance for uh, you know, you know, 129 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: against a quality pass rusher in van Ness and and 130 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: how you go about that. Well, another guy who had 131 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: a really strong uh, well, the opposite of what you 132 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: were talking about a strong performance is the kid from Tennessee, right, 133 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: Darnell right. Um. A lot of people feel like he's 134 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: shooting up the boards a little bit as a result 135 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: of his work against will Anderson when they took on Alabama. 136 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: Did you guys see it that way? You know, how 137 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: do you feel about I mean, I right, Evan has 138 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: a but yeah, absolutely a guy that I mean after 139 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: the combine hit my radar again and you know it 140 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: was a right tackle. But I think you know, as 141 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: we saw he had some twitter back and forth. I 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw this going into beef Yeah, yeah, 143 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: going into you know, random dudes things, you know, talking, 144 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: Oh really, you know, he's my guy I'm not just 145 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: the right tackle. But then he apologized to he's got 146 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of things going on, but he's another guy 147 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: that that you love, and I think it's just really 148 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: it was somebody that isn't kind of a name person, Yeah, 149 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: something like that. So, I mean, I think that he 150 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: brings up the question of you know, what are you 151 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: really what are you really looking for? I mean, I 152 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: think the left tackle thing is is is totally apt. 153 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: But you know you're gonna draft a guy like that 154 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: where it's you know, maybe like Solder where he comes 155 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: in he made out to play on the right side 156 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: for a little bit and then you get him over 157 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: to the left side. That's where I'm at with this 158 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: whole class as a whole. But I think he kind 159 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: of sums it up as a guy who maybe a 160 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: right tackle, maybe has some left tackle potential you don't 161 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: know where, and that might be the ideal situation is 162 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: to get a guy, I mean if he could play 163 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean, to get a guy that you 164 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: plug in on the right side and somehow you've crossed 165 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: your fingers that Trent Brown gives you one more season 166 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: of quality play at left tackle and then you don't 167 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: have that pressure of you know, of the the guy 168 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: having to come in and save the day. But that's 169 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ifs there. Yeah, you know, he's 170 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: a right tackle to me, Darnell Right'll come at you, 171 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: don't at him. He's somebody though that his hand strength 172 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: and his power in the run game is eye popping. 173 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: You watch him play and and he's just moving the 174 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage at will, even in the SEC or 175 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: down at the Senior Bowl in Mobile. And he's somebody 176 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: that you mentioned Will Anderson, but he performed well against 177 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: every good edge rusher that he went up against last 178 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: year and then was awesome in Mobile. So he's somebody 179 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: that every single time he faces elite competition, he's doing 180 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: well against those guys, and that often translates to the league. 181 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: But he's somebody that in twenty twenty two or twenty 182 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: twenty one, excuse me, wasn't as good. Took a really 183 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: big leap in twenty twenty two. And Will Anderson at 184 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: the combine actually talked about that. He said, I played 185 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: him last year and I was like, this guy's you know, okay, 186 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: and then I played him this year and it was 187 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: like Holy crap, this guy's gotten so much better. So 188 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: he's got really good power, a good balance. You know, 189 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: he's just not somebody that you're going to run through 190 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: in pass protection. You think he's got decent feet for 191 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: his size, but I wouldn't say he's overly rangey at 192 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: the position, which is why I kind of look at 193 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: him as more of a right tackle than the left tackle. 194 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: But he's played both sides, and the Patriots have never 195 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: been to you know, needy right like, they don't really 196 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: look at it that way and say, oh, you can't 197 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: play here, you can't play there. They just sort of 198 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: figure out where it lies at the end of the day. 199 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: But I think he's a right tackle, and they putting 200 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: him next to Mike on when it would be ridiculous, 201 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: Like those two guys on a double team would just 202 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: be stupid. But I don't know. It does depend on 203 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: if you really are dead set on left tackle versus 204 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: a right tackle. So we won't take as much time 205 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: with the interior guys. But before we move to them, 206 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm just curious if you guys had some prospects maybe 207 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: day day two, maybe later day two, day three, um, 208 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, and this would be a double up, I 209 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: would say, because you're not going to draft a guy, 210 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: say in the fifth round and say, well our tackle, 211 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: we addressed tackle. This would be getting somebody early, but 212 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: maybe somebody else that cuts your eye a little bit 213 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: later as a developmental guy. Yeah. I mean I'll throw 214 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: two names out there that maybe you know Day two 215 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: day Day two guys. But Tyler Steen from Alabama, Yeah, 216 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: he just you can't always gotta keeps another one who 217 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: you know in the postseason this year, you know in 218 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: the in the spring games, is you know, turn some heads. 219 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: And also, I mean I just can't not put him 220 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: on Cody mock with you know, no front teeth, uh 221 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: from North Dakota State. But we're gonna talk about guards 222 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: in the second right. So he's probably think that was 223 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: a shot. That was a shot that was at no. Well, 224 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: I like his I like his I like his style. 225 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: He thinks he's and that's in fairness, I have him 226 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: on and that's probably why he's gonna end up. But 227 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: but just those are two guys that I like. Okay, 228 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: can I go rapid fire real? Yes? I would appreciate 229 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: the rapid fire because this is a big position in 230 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: need for the Patriots, Dewan Jones Ohio State, Trent Brown 231 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: two point zero, Anton Harrison from Oklahoma, really underrated player 232 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: who I think is going to be a first round pick. 233 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Real quick on him. Did he struggle in some of 234 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: the senior games, whether the Shrine or the not? Like terribly? No, 235 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Dewan Jones dominated like one day a practice dropped the mic, 236 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: see you later. I mean unbelievable players. Uh, Trent Brown 237 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: two point Anton Harrison just a clean uh not necessarily 238 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: the most flashy guy here, but but somebody that's going 239 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: to be a solid pro. Blake Freeland, Nate's older two 240 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: point zero over there at BYU you mentioned Stean and 241 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: the last guy I'll mentioned really quickly, Matthew berger On 242 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: from Syracuse. Actually measured in a little bit bigger than 243 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: I think some people expected. His footwork and his lower 244 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: half looks like guard. But he's six five with thirty 245 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: three nh arm, So I think he's got the size 246 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: to play tackle if you really want him to. Probably 247 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: one of those guys it's a better guard than a tackle, 248 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: but can play tackle. Okay, let's um you know real quick, um, 249 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, spend a couple of minutes just talking about 250 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: some of the interior guys. Obviously, the Patriot's the first 251 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: round pick on Cole Strange last year. It would be 252 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: really odd to take a position like that and double 253 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: up in consecutive seasons. But I don't see a lot 254 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: of you know, first round projections, second round projections with 255 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: the guards and centers. But I will say, I'm gonna 256 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: ask you guys to give me a center projection because 257 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: I do think it would be good business to sort 258 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: of worry about David Andrews a little bit as he's 259 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: progressing in his career. Maybe a fifth, sixth round kind 260 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: of a guy that you could plug in and wait 261 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: a year. They've been trying to do that periodically in 262 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: recent years, haven't really had a lot of success. Anybody 263 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: stand out. I mean, I just throw Alex forsythe out 264 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: there from Oregon who just made an impact, an impact 265 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: impact on me. He made an impact at me at 266 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: at the Scout in combined. But and you have to 267 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: keep those that the Oregan guys, that's where Atrian Clem 268 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: is coming from, So you have to keep them. Just 269 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: Seene incredibly smart, polished, and this is just you know, 270 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: hearing him talk, but he just kind of had a 271 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Patriots type five to me, and I think that's a 272 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: perfect kind of like day three developmental guy. Get him 273 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: in the system and you know, maybe you see him 274 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: in a couple years. Yeah, Foresty is a good one. 275 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: He's also somebody that is cerebral, you know, got it 276 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: between the ears and really led that Oregan offensive line 277 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: last year. Ricky Stromberg from Stromberg sorry, from Arkansas. Also 278 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl guy or Shrine Bowl guy, excusing me work 279 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: with the Patriots there in Vegas. He's somebody that I 280 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: could see maybe late day three, uh, you know, around 281 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: those six round picks or something like that that they have. 282 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: At the end of Day three. We got to talk 283 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: about Cody Mock though, because oh now you want to 284 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah he's teeth, no, because he's a guard. But you 285 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: wait that I waited for the interior offensive line portion 286 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: of this show. Cody Mock is one of my favorite 287 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: guys to watch in this draft because he is just 288 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: exactly what an offensive lineman should be. He is a 289 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: hog molly eats nails like literally, is just going to 290 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: put you in the dirt every single chance that he's got. 291 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: But with that being said, and I know Everybody makes 292 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: a big deal out of the arm length, and I 293 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: want to stress this, He's a guard for more reasons 294 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: than just his arm length. It's not just because he's 295 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: not doesn't have thirty four inch arms like that's part 296 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: of it, but his footwork and his really his entire 297 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: skill set. The more space that he gets, the worst 298 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: that his technique and the worst that his play gets. 299 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: And he's just doesn't really have the footwork or the 300 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: balance to play outside. I don't think in the league, 301 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: I think he can be a high level guard. I 302 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: think he might be like an all Pro center if 303 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to play him at center. But I think 304 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: you would be a really high level guard as well, 305 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: and somebody that just can play multiple spots, Like you 306 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: can put him at tackle if you absolutely needed too. 307 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: So I would say that he's a backup tackle for 308 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: you as well if you want to kick him outside 309 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: in a in a pinch, I just wouldn't play him there. 310 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't play him there. So we'll we'll put 311 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: a bowl on this one. I just wanted to sort 312 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: two names out one um. You know, there's been a 313 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: lot of talk, and Evan and I talked a lot 314 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: about the Big Ten and the Patriots sort of kind 315 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: of ignoring everybody that's not from Michigan from the Big Ten. Um, 316 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Michigan has the most draft picks. I think Mike Rease 317 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: had a note about that over the weekend. Um, you're 318 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to help me with the name. Is it 319 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: olo a Teamy? Close enough? I don't know exactly how to. 320 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: He's a thought Day three kind of interior alignment. And 321 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: there in the Senior Bowl. I always keep track of 322 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Wisconsin guys because that's like an offensive. Joe Tipman to 323 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: me was a guy that just because of the pedigree 324 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: of the Wisconsin lineman in the NFL. Again, we're talking 325 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: about guys that you might draft late, like Jason Hines 326 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: and Andrew Stubert last year and then maybe hope you 327 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: can develop one of them, and you know, they spend 328 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: a year in the practice squad and maybe two years 329 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: from now, you know you might have a guy who 330 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: could potentially replace someone who you're losing free agency, like 331 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: Michael Owen. You if you're not able to resign him, Yeah, yeah. 332 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: Last one from the Shrine Bowl Jackson Kirkland from Washington. 333 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: I played guard predominantly left guard at the Shrine Bowl, 334 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: but he's played some tackle in his career as well. 335 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: He's actually a tackle and as a junior and then 336 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: for some reason the Washington coaching staff thought that they 337 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: really needed his experience inside, so they moved him inside 338 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: as a senior. But he's played bowl spots. He's kind 339 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: of that maybe has a starter potential inside, but maybe 340 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: can be a backup multiple spots later the draft, and 341 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I think that he's somebody that they had their eye 342 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: on because they were very specific about where they were 343 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: putting him when they put him out there. So all right, well, 344 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to spend any more time on the 345 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. I already gave you more time than I 346 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: than I normally would, only because it is a position 347 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: of need, and I think Evan and I are higher 348 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: on that position of need than than Mike is. But 349 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: I think we all agree that there's some I think 350 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: some reinforcements are I think one of those first round 351 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: guys make sense. I just I think where I start 352 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: to get a little bit questioning is when you're trying 353 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to develop them, you know, and I don't. I don't 354 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: know what the system is going to be like with 355 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: the new coaching staff. How's it all gonna look? So 356 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: get one up top. I'm on board with that. We 357 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: start throwing darts at the board. Day three. Then it's 358 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, kind of whatever. 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