Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.
Speaker 2: I'm Erica and I'm Meela, and this is a really
Speaker 2: special episode. We recorded this at Costa Rica a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago. We met Sylvia, who you're about to meet,
Speaker 2: and it was kind of just divine timing, and she
Speaker 2: is an amazing astrologer, a local Costa Rican and she
Speaker 2: really gave us so much insight on ourselves with the
Speaker 2: private reading of our natal chart and also of our children.
Speaker 1: But in perfect good Mom's fashion, we unfortunately technology hates
Speaker 1: us and so a small portion of this episode is
Speaker 1: gone forever went missing. But we started right where we
Speaker 1: all love it, and that's the Tarot card reading with
Speaker 1: the eight of ones. So Sylvia take it.
Speaker 3: Away by the element of fire. So there is passion
Speaker 3: in what you are accomplishing. It's important to have that passion.
Speaker 3: And also it's well, as I said at the beginning,
Speaker 3: it's very gold oriented. So pretty much is like whatever
Speaker 3: is happening in your life right now, whatever you're trying
Speaker 3: to accomplish, just focus and go straightforward and act on
Speaker 3: it with passion, and you have good It's very auspicious,
Speaker 3: it's very positive. I mean, the outcome will be positive,
Speaker 3: so you don't have to worry about pretty much.
Speaker 4: That's it. Okay, good, stay focused.
Speaker 5: Focused, and we'll all work out.
Speaker 4: Perfect.
Speaker 2: I'm passionate, passion Yes, do you have an affirmation for
Speaker 2: today maybe that you can share with our audience?
Speaker 3: Wow, an affirmation for today?
Speaker 4: Everything is working out best case scenario.
Speaker 1: Everything is working out this case scenario, even when it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it right, it's.
Speaker 5: It's the best case scenario.
Speaker 2: I mean, let me tell you, Sylvia, yesterday I was
Speaker 2: not feeling like everything was working out in the best
Speaker 2: case scenario. You know, I'm so happy that you're here
Speaker 2: because this trip for me has, I guess, highlighted some
Speaker 2: of the things in my daughter that I feel like
Speaker 2: I've always known existed, but I feel like they're amplified
Speaker 2: and almost like I can't ignore them anymore, and I
Speaker 2: have to like figure out how I can better, you know,
Speaker 2: support her, and how I can better explain things to her.
Speaker 6: But she's on sex and so it's difficult.
Speaker 2: Yes, and so I'm just you know, we asked you
Speaker 2: to do our daughter's charts. After you did our charts everything,
Speaker 2: it was so insightful that I felt like I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of times we talked to our audience,
Speaker 2: and I've shared with our audience too about I've put
Speaker 2: my daughter's chart into like different apps and stuff to
Speaker 2: kind of understand.
Speaker 4: Who she is.
Speaker 2: But there's only so far my of my knowledge of it,
Speaker 2: and that it can go. But I think it's really
Speaker 2: important that as as parents we not only like focus
Speaker 2: on our own like you know, like built like makings,
Speaker 2: or like our soul path, but also like our children
Speaker 2: and how we can better parent them based on the
Speaker 2: planets and you know, where they were when they were
Speaker 2: born and how they correlate with us. And I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm really excited to hear what you know you've
Speaker 2: discovered about both of our kids, because both of our
Speaker 2: kids are very different.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Which I've always known, but even this trip too has
Speaker 2: highlighted that for me, Me and Jamie have taken a
Speaker 2: lot of trips with our kids. We're like, we always
Speaker 2: call each other platonic lovers, and we do a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of things together that maybe you know.
Speaker 6: You would do with your partner.
Speaker 2: But I think this is such a pivotal age six
Speaker 2: years old. It's a lot of times where kids make
Speaker 2: agreements with them so, and they like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just very an impactful age, like emotionally too. Like people
Speaker 2: say that between the ages of like five and seven
Speaker 2: are like really important times because that's.
Speaker 6: Kind of like when kids really.
Speaker 2: Remember start remembering things. And our kids are like sponges.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, I was literally crying last night
Speaker 2: telling my friend her and my other friend I called,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what is my.
Speaker 5: Daughter going to blame me for?
Speaker 2: Like is she what is she going to blame me
Speaker 2: for when when she gets older, Because we all kind
Speaker 2: of blame our parents for certain things, right and not
Speaker 2: also not understanding where they were at that time in
Speaker 2: their life, what was happening at that time in their life.
Speaker 5: We just know that like they.
Speaker 2: Just weren't there for us, or they did this to
Speaker 2: us and this and that. And I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, is it going to be that I just
Speaker 2: didn't pay enough attention to her?
Speaker 5: You know, she has a you know, me and her
Speaker 5: father are not together.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what kind of parenting is happening
Speaker 2: over there because we don't really communicate, and she's had
Speaker 2: a lot of shifts in the last two years with
Speaker 2: you know, new siblings being born, and just a lot
Speaker 2: of things that I think I haven't taken into account
Speaker 2: too until last night, all hate me and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, she's gone through so much. I'm always
Speaker 2: thinking about how much I've gone through, you know, and
Speaker 2: thinking like, well, she's happy the reiliment, you know. Like
Speaker 2: so I'm just excited to see to see what it
Speaker 2: says because I have not been like I guess I
Speaker 2: was not feeling optimistic.
Speaker 1: I think like being able to parent on this journey
Speaker 1: with you, it's very similar to like it's obviously we're
Speaker 1: not married in real life, but like it's very similar
Speaker 1: to having like almost like another child, and like if
Speaker 1: you like had a blended family and you marry someone
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 5: Have a kid.
Speaker 1: But obviously I've been in Ivy's life forever, but you know,
Speaker 1: we travel together. We spend a lot of time together,
Speaker 1: so we see our kids together and they're the best.
Speaker 4: Of friends as their sisters.
Speaker 1: And I was just telling her last night, like, first
Speaker 1: of all, it's challenging as fuck traveling for ten days
Speaker 1: with two six year olds our patients has been tried
Speaker 1: many times, and it's just interesting dynamic because I am
Speaker 1: a single mom of one if I didn't have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to like be on this path with you, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to understand as much that we are
Speaker 1: literally just the bearers of souls, you know, like we
Speaker 1: bring the soul and then we have to figure out
Speaker 1: the best way to parent that soul and to guide
Speaker 1: that soul and to make them the most you know,
Speaker 1: ready for this life as they can be. And Ire
Speaker 1: and Lunar are so different, but they are such best friends.
Speaker 1: I mean, Erica and I are different, and obviously we're
Speaker 1: best friends. But like when you put four women little
Speaker 1: women to be all different in one trip, it's like
Speaker 1: it highlights that shit a lot, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: just really lucky that we met you and that we're
Speaker 1: just like have the insight to even say, huh, let's
Speaker 1: try this for our kids so that we can possibly
Speaker 1: better parent them or have a better insight on who
Speaker 1: they are. And like, you know, I don't like my
Speaker 1: parents mark the type of parents to I don't know.
Speaker 4: Obviously, all our parents do what they can.
Speaker 1: With what they got, but like really understanding the like
Speaker 1: what makes your child tick or makes them feel away?
Speaker 1: I think it's so important because all of a lot
Speaker 1: of us. Most of us are healing from childhood trauma.
Speaker 1: But maybe our parents didn't have the insight or the
Speaker 1: you know, the thought togotiate an astrologists to check in
Speaker 1: how we could have better been parented. I'm a super
Speaker 1: sensitive human being, and I know I was a super
Speaker 1: sensitive child, and I was like told like stopping sensitive
Speaker 1: a lot, which I'm sure a lot of kids were,
Speaker 1: because it's like shut the fuck up. But like that
Speaker 1: probably wasn't conducive for me, and like I having to
Speaker 1: work out of a lot of like negative self talk
Speaker 1: because of it as an adult. So I'm just like
Speaker 1: happy to get to sit down with you and get
Speaker 1: better insight on lunas, so like I can be more
Speaker 1: patient and understanding of who she is. And I'm not
Speaker 1: doing the same thing my parents did and was like
Speaker 1: shut up, you're being very sensitive or.
Speaker 4: Be quiet You're fine. I be quite, You're fine.
Speaker 1: So as an adult, she's not like I'm hurting, but
Speaker 1: I'm fine, you know. So it's just like this is
Speaker 1: you guys were in the jungle, and of course there's.
Speaker 5: A lot of sound.
Speaker 4: Sorry, he follows us. So I'm going to give you
Speaker 4: the flource earlier.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I have so much to say about what
Speaker 3: you guys were sharing with me. And as I told
Speaker 3: you in your reading, there are certain aspects that are
Speaker 3: really important that we as human keep in mind while
Speaker 3: we are working working on desert, like really really, it's
Speaker 3: very important that we understand and this is this is
Speaker 3: my belief, this is my perspective. But I find out,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if this is the massive truth,
Speaker 3: if this is the only truth, but who resonates with
Speaker 3: this might find a lot of peace in the living
Speaker 3: in this. And this is that we before we came
Speaker 3: here on earth, we shoot everything. All the circumstances that
Speaker 3: surround us where we are alive, we shoot them. Before
Speaker 3: we encarnate here, we were like in a realm where
Speaker 3: we were okay. For my sole evolution, this is the
Speaker 3: perfect family for me. This is the perfect country, This
Speaker 3: is the perfect culture. This is the perfect place for
Speaker 3: me to grow as a soul, to accomplish my mission there,
Speaker 3: So knowing that we know that no matter how it goes,
Speaker 3: you're doing the best job because you are already you
Speaker 3: are agreed at some point, you and your daughters, we
Speaker 3: all of us, you and your parents to we all
Speaker 3: agree that that's going to be the best for me.
Speaker 3: So when we are born, we forget about.
Speaker 5: All of this.
Speaker 3: We don't remember what the agreements or the agendas that
Speaker 3: we plan to bring down here. So we start living
Speaker 3: life in a way that organically and not really it's
Speaker 3: just going to unfold in the perfect way. So our
Speaker 3: souls start to live an experienced life in the way
Speaker 3: we plant.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you are born even with the perfect astrology. Okay,
Speaker 3: you are even born with the perfect astrology for your
Speaker 3: soul evolution.
Speaker 4: There are several important things for me in an antal charge.
Speaker 4: One of them is the moon. The moon.
Speaker 3: The moon, it's the mother for every one of us. Okay,
Speaker 3: where the moon falls in design?
Speaker 4: Where is the moon? That is the energy in how
Speaker 4: we are going to perceive our mother. Okay.
Speaker 3: Then there is also well I talked to you the
Speaker 3: other day about Kiren, there's where the moon is.
Speaker 4: We are if we are human, we are wounded. That's it.
Speaker 3: If not, we tresent this humanity and we are going
Speaker 3: to be incarnated maybe in another dimension or in other.
Speaker 4: Realms, or in other planets or I don't know how
Speaker 4: that works.
Speaker 3: That I don't know, but I do know that we
Speaker 3: can be completely something different than humans. Okay, but if
Speaker 3: we are here, we come with a wound, and that
Speaker 3: wind is represented by kiren. Okay, and there are some
Speaker 3: other things there that we can put together and we
Speaker 3: can make a good combination. And okay, let's say, okay,
Speaker 3: this is the recipe for this kind of personality or
Speaker 3: these kind of tendencies. So I just want to make
Speaker 3: sure that I cover that aspect because we carry so much.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not a mother, but I am very afraid
Speaker 4: to be a mother.
Speaker 3: For example, why I have several aspects in my shart.
Speaker 3: For example, I have my Moon in Aquarius. Moon in
Speaker 3: Aquarius is one of the moons that are super afraid
Speaker 3: to be a mother, and it's like a fear of
Speaker 3: giving birth. Right, It's like, okay, I don't see myself
Speaker 3: giving birth. That's scary to me so much. So this,
Speaker 3: for example, makes me understand so much about why it's
Speaker 3: so difficult for me.
Speaker 4: And there is a lot of women's around.
Speaker 3: The world that have these aspects and that they probably
Speaker 3: don't understand.
Speaker 4: Why am I so afraid to have kids?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Why am I so I don't know? To feel I'm
Speaker 4: capable to do it.
Speaker 3: So even though I don't have kids and I still
Speaker 3: have to work on this wound.
Speaker 4: I blame my mother for so many things.
Speaker 3: And one of the fears that I have, for example,
Speaker 3: with my mone in Aquarius, is like, what is that
Speaker 3: kids going to tell me?
Speaker 4: I mean, what if I'm not going to do a
Speaker 4: good job? What am I gonna do? What if I
Speaker 4: am the same as my mother was with me? And
Speaker 4: I mean I really had a very damaged in childhood
Speaker 4: because of that.
Speaker 3: Precisely that moon right, she doesn't know anything about astrology.
Speaker 7: And that's why I love to do sharts for mothers
Speaker 7: because to me, if somebody told my mother, for example,
Speaker 7: at some point, okay, Sylvia is this way and you
Speaker 7: should guide her in this way, I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 7: I would probably went.
Speaker 6: Through another path in life.
Speaker 4: It didn't happen. That was not my sole mission either.
Speaker 4: I probably won't be here doing this if she got
Speaker 4: me properly.
Speaker 8: Okay.
Speaker 3: So I do know the importance of having the sense
Speaker 3: of what your child is. I do know that importance,
Speaker 3: and also I want you to know that everything is perfect.
Speaker 3: These sharts, your daughter's shirt and your shart, we can
Speaker 3: put them together in a sinistry and we can also
Speaker 3: so there is also like what the challenge you have
Speaker 3: in your personal relationship. Another thing that you need to
Speaker 3: know is that when the souls get together, you know,
Speaker 3: like you and me we meet each other, right, we
Speaker 3: have there is a.
Speaker 4: Purpose in our encounter. You're going to learn something from me.
Speaker 3: I will definitely learn something from you for YouTube you
Speaker 3: you know, we are the three of us.
Speaker 4: We're going to this is this was planned and ready.
Speaker 4: There is no coincidence.
Speaker 3: And if we put even our shilds together, we will
Speaker 3: see why why are we connecting in these aspects? Maybe
Speaker 3: it's something very spiritual. Maybe I meant to guide you spiritually.
Speaker 3: Maybe we're just going to be friends and you're going
Speaker 3: to teach me how to.
Speaker 4: Shine like you shine. You're going to teach me how
Speaker 4: to be a mother. I'm going to teach you. I
Speaker 4: don't know how to be more spiritual. We don't know
Speaker 4: that we all bring.
Speaker 3: So much for all of us, you know, and we
Speaker 3: need to be very very very present every time.
Speaker 6: We need somebody.
Speaker 4: You know, we can teach so much to each other,
Speaker 4: solve your childs to you, there are the greatest teachers
Speaker 4: you had, Oh.
Speaker 5: Right, I know.
Speaker 6: I was telling her yesterday.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, I know that, like
Speaker 2: this is the best challenge is a lesson for me
Speaker 2: because it feels very uncomfortable and like I don't know
Speaker 2: how to map, I don't know what I'm doing, what.
Speaker 6: The fuck I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing my best, and I know that like
Speaker 2: throughout my mother, throughout motherhood so far, that's encountered.
Speaker 6: Obviously.
Speaker 2: I think every mother has encountered certain challenges that we're
Speaker 2: not expecting. And I think me, this challenge that I'm
Speaker 2: experiencing with my daughter was not one that I was expecting.
Speaker 6: I was like, no, she'll just be chilled like me.
Speaker 2: And because she's like me, she's not like me, you know,
Speaker 2: or like, of course I give her a lot of attention,
Speaker 2: it will be enough.
Speaker 6: You know, she gave so much attention to everybody else,
Speaker 6: it will be enough.
Speaker 1: It's not enough.
Speaker 6: It's never enough.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting because I think people have a hard
Speaker 1: time saying my child is different from me, and I
Speaker 1: don't have all the answers, or people just don't under
Speaker 1: like people are not people.
Speaker 5: Don't talk about this, You're like.
Speaker 4: This is my child. They're wonderful they're the center of
Speaker 4: the earth.
Speaker 1: But like people are not honest about like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is my child, and this is where I don't understand her.
Speaker 1: This is where I'm having an obstacle, and like talking
Speaker 1: about that is okay, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: there are things that come up and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: hope you don't do too much of this or too
Speaker 1: much of that, but I'm gonna just let your chill
Speaker 1: right now. But like I it's again, I'm grateful to
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to parent with someone else and see
Speaker 1: how challenges come up and like that we can talk
Speaker 1: about them and that we can work through them and
Speaker 1: then like try and help each other in the journey
Speaker 1: because again, yeah, like we do have very different children
Speaker 1: and it takes different tools. We need to pull out
Speaker 1: different tools for each of them. You know, Like Iri
Speaker 1: is much more attached to Erica and needs a lot
Speaker 1: from Erica all the time, and I know it's challenging
Speaker 1: for her, and I'm trying to support her, you know,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's challenging even because I don't got the
Speaker 1: answers either.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, so for example, well let's do we're
Speaker 3: more with you, right now like our energy is like
Speaker 3: in you and your daughter Iri.
Speaker 4: So you know, for.
Speaker 3: Example, we talk about it the other day, right you said, like, oh, Iris,
Speaker 3: just get once.
Speaker 6: All my attention.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Turns out turns out exactly like the breaking news here.
Speaker 4: Is that Iri has that beautiful lionmin to me.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful because compared to mine, for example, or your daughter.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it, it's very completely the opposite.
Speaker 4: They're so different.
Speaker 3: That morning, Leo, it's a baby that was really wanted somehow.
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 8: The circumstances in that she came to the world, but
Speaker 8: you definitely were ready when she came, even though if
Speaker 8: it was a surprise for you that okay, oh I'm
Speaker 8: pregnant business. But all the way, like you work through
Speaker 8: your marriage and through your pregnancy, sorry, you work through
Speaker 8: your pregnancy in a way that that baby when she came,
Speaker 8: was completely wanted. And she's surrounded by an environment where
Speaker 8: she is the little queen.
Speaker 3: Whether by you, your neighbors, this community.
Speaker 4: She's grand whether the grandmother or even the father, but
Speaker 4: she is like the unique figure there. So that encouraged
Speaker 4: her to be Leo, is what is Leo. What is
Speaker 4: the Leo energy? Croud, the sun is the sun. Okay,
Speaker 4: bring me all the attention.
Speaker 6: I'm shining here, I am.
Speaker 3: I mean all the Leo energy are the energy of
Speaker 3: the artists. The Jennifer love As for example, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure she has some venus in Leo or something.
Speaker 4: Well, I have veness in Leo to and I wish
Speaker 4: I was like her.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 3: No, But there's also that we need to integrate a
Speaker 3: lot of all these aspects. It's not that because we
Speaker 3: have them there in our chart, that's because that's how
Speaker 3: we are. No, there are some aspects that we really
Speaker 3: need to learn and integrate and to empower them, to
Speaker 3: empower with them. Right, So with your daughter with this
Speaker 3: beautiful moon, of course, she's like me, me and me
Speaker 3: and me and me, and she can be she's like
Speaker 3: also this kind of girl.
Speaker 4: That it can be.
Speaker 3: She can even what you give her everything she wants,
Speaker 3: I don't know, or there is somebody that is giving
Speaker 3: her everything she wants.
Speaker 4: So I mean that doesn't make her a bit, No,
Speaker 4: not at all.
Speaker 3: That's her job because she yeah, because she to make
Speaker 3: her a little bit to understand that she's not the
Speaker 3: center of the universe, but in a very gentle way.
Speaker 3: You're not going to, you know, to make her feel
Speaker 3: guilty to be like that. She just you know, it's
Speaker 3: her essence here.
Speaker 4: And that's also you are.
Speaker 3: You have a big responsibility and how she perceives you.
Speaker 3: You have a lot of responsibility and that le Immune
Speaker 3: energy in her life because it's the mother, her mother, right.
Speaker 4: So it's the exactly.
Speaker 3: And if I see you, if I don't know you,
Speaker 3: you have a lot of Leo energy in you.
Speaker 4: Why, I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Let's see in this moment here, I'm going to take
Speaker 3: a look at your shirt.
Speaker 7: So in Leo you have really okay, maybe it's that
Speaker 7: really live that you have in there too that.
Speaker 4: It's making you because if I see you, you have
Speaker 4: the presence of a little woman. For example, your hair,
Speaker 4: the way you use your hair. Leo is all about
Speaker 4: the hair too.
Speaker 6: So there is a lot of things that you can
Speaker 6: perceive Leo.
Speaker 4: Whether if it's Leo vinos in Leo venus.
Speaker 3: As sandant being a sun and really which is have
Speaker 3: a very important feminine energy too. In the astrological short
Speaker 3: there is also a part like the it's like the shadow,
Speaker 3: the shadow of.
Speaker 4: The women, for example, it's like the evil part of us.
Speaker 6: That's how they come it.
Speaker 3: But it's more profound.
Speaker 4: Listen, it's not precisely vivil part dark. It can be
Speaker 4: the dark side of us.
Speaker 3: Yes, I told you the other day that a very
Speaker 3: important aspect we have is the north nodes too, okay,
Speaker 3: the north note and the south note.
Speaker 4: So the north note is.
Speaker 3: Where we're going, is where our soul is coming here
Speaker 3: to experience. It's not a comfort zone. It's a place
Speaker 3: where we feel called to. But we said, now, I
Speaker 3: don't see myself doing that. I don't see myself going there.
Speaker 3: And there is the salt note where it's like our
Speaker 3: past life, for example, where we were in our past life,
Speaker 3: or in some of our past life, in any one
Speaker 3: of our past lives. Right, So that's the comfort zone.
Speaker 3: So whatever the salt note is, we're going to feel
Speaker 3: very good in there.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So for example, in Irish case, we have the north
Speaker 3: note in the first house. That means that the south
Speaker 3: note isn't the seventh house. And we have here a contradiction.
Speaker 3: And there is where I need to be to explain
Speaker 3: better astrology here because I explained you or you the
Speaker 3: other day about how the houses work and how you
Speaker 3: know why the first house is the first house, why
Speaker 3: the signs are different in the har than not precisely
Speaker 3: for example that let's see, because I really want to
Speaker 3: explain myself here and it's hard for me.
Speaker 4: Also in English.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, So we have twelve houses in the chart, right,
Speaker 3: so it's like a whill that look, it's not a will.
Speaker 3: Let's imagine a piece of pizza like, oh no, a
Speaker 3: pizza around pizza with seven slices, with twelve slice, okay,
Speaker 3: twelve slices.
Speaker 4: Issue slices. It pertains to a house.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the first slice the first house, it's the
Speaker 3: House of Areas. The second house is the House of Taros.
Speaker 3: The third house is the House of Gemini. The fourth
Speaker 3: house is the House of Cancer. The fifth house is
Speaker 3: the House of Leo. The sixth houses the house of Virgo,
Speaker 3: seven is the House of Livra, the eighth one is
Speaker 3: the House of the Scorpio. The ninth house is the
Speaker 3: House of Sagittarius, the tenth is the House of Capricorn,
Speaker 3: the eleven is the House of Aquarius.
Speaker 4: And the twelve with the House of Crisis.
Speaker 3: The oroscope starts in areas and ends in pics. Right,
Speaker 3: So those are twelve signs twelve houses. Why do we
Speaker 3: ask the time of birth to do a natal shot
Speaker 3: because the signs are transiting through that wheel.
Speaker 4: Let's say they're moving around.
Speaker 3: Every two hours they change houses, so they're like moving like.
Speaker 4: The room boom boom bom room. Okay.
Speaker 3: So with the time of birth we say, like, okay,
Speaker 3: it's like a screenshot of that exact moment of how
Speaker 3: the transits were happening, how where the signs were moving
Speaker 3: through wish houses.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So in the case of your daughter, for example, she
Speaker 3: was the in the moment of.
Speaker 4: Her birth at four twelve in the.
Speaker 3: Afternoon, the ascendant, the Virgo was transiting in the ascendant, okay,
Speaker 3: in the twenty four degrees. So the first house cover
Speaker 3: a part of the a little part of virgo of
Speaker 3: the yeah, the sign of virgo. Every sign have thirty degrees,
Speaker 3: not all the houses. The houses can be shorter or wider,
Speaker 3: bring even they in each house. They can even have
Speaker 3: two signs or maybe just one. But in the most
Speaker 3: part of natal sharks, there are two signs in one house.
Speaker 4: Maybe not to not all the degrees of the of.
Speaker 3: The signs, but so well, so in your daughter shared,
Speaker 3: for example, there is in the first house. Yeah, there
Speaker 3: is the ascendant in Virgo, but a lot of the
Speaker 3: first house there is Libra energy. And she had the
Speaker 3: Norse note. Let's go back to the notes. I hope
Speaker 3: I don't make a big mess here. I remember the
Speaker 3: north note is what's uncomfortable and exactly what you're exactly exactly? Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so she had the north note there in the
Speaker 3: first house in Libra.
Speaker 4: But what is the house? Okay, who's the owner of
Speaker 4: the first house?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: So if even though Libra was transiting here and the
Speaker 3: north note is in Libra, she had that area's energy.
Speaker 3: But what is going on that the first house is
Speaker 3: the house of Areas and the seven houses the house
Speaker 3: of Libra.
Speaker 4: But they are.
Speaker 3: Opposite, they are so this is why, Okay, what is
Speaker 3: happening here?
Speaker 4: So I have the north note in Areas, which means
Speaker 4: I have to go, Mimi, Mimi, me.
Speaker 3: But then the north note is in Libra, which is others.
Speaker 3: How I'm gonna do this?
Speaker 4: What is this mess?
Speaker 3: I mean they're completely opposite? And how am I going
Speaker 3: to integrate this energy?
Speaker 4: Right? Because we need to put all of this together.
Speaker 3: So in her life, there is a lot of energy
Speaker 3: that is going to be focusing on herself. This is
Speaker 3: very important because it's in the first house. So she
Speaker 3: really comes here to experience herself, to know herself, to
Speaker 3: live through her own things, you know, like not too
Speaker 3: much the others. But because it is in the sign
Speaker 3: of Libra, this is telling me that she needs to
Speaker 3: experience herself through relationships too. What is going to happen
Speaker 3: that she herself not which is her comfort zone.
Speaker 4: It's okay, let's be in relationships. So she's probably going.
Speaker 3: To be somebody that is going to attract a lot
Speaker 3: of relationships in her life.
Speaker 4: So she is probably already surrounded by people.
Speaker 3: You and your family and friends, and there is a
Speaker 3: lot of people around her.
Speaker 4: She's not a kid that will grow that will grow
Speaker 4: up alone.
Speaker 3: Even though she's an only daughter, right, she will be
Speaker 3: surrounded by people all the time.
Speaker 5: She's my only daughter's other siblings.
Speaker 3: But exactly well okay, but still she's surrounded by a
Speaker 3: lot of people constantly. She's not alone all the time, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: So that is telling me that she is creating already
Speaker 3: a lot of relationships in.
Speaker 4: Her life and that's how she's learning.
Speaker 3: So they're also going to teach her that you are
Speaker 3: not the only one even with this moony leo, which
Speaker 3: is like.
Speaker 4: She's going to be pro learning in a tough way.
Speaker 3: She's not the only one that all the energy doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be on her.
Speaker 4: And she's also have Uranus, the planet Uranus? Have you
Speaker 4: have you pronounced properness? Okay?
Speaker 3: I don't want to say something different, you know, because
Speaker 3: sometimes it's like Uranus.
Speaker 5: I like the way you said, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, yeah, but it happens already and people were like, okay,
Speaker 3: so I just I just want to make sure I
Speaker 3: said the planet Uranus. She is there in the seventh House.
Speaker 3: So this brings a lot of instability in relationships.
Speaker 4: So this is a blend of boom.
Speaker 3: Lord exact, that's exactly. But everything that is happening in
Speaker 3: your life is guiding her through these kind of experiences.
Speaker 3: So you don't have to worry that much. You just
Speaker 3: have to understand. And then this is so important, and
Speaker 3: this is for both of you. You both need to
Speaker 3: understand that you are doing the perfect job every minute
Speaker 3: because they choose you to be the mother, so you
Speaker 3: are the perfect mother for their soul evolution. No matter
Speaker 3: what you do, you cannot run away from it. You
Speaker 3: can just understand better and be more at peace with
Speaker 3: the loss of the universe. Let's say, to be more
Speaker 3: at peace with whatever shows up and to understand.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is her path. I have to respect her path.
Speaker 4: This is what she's shooes him, and I am doing
Speaker 4: the best here. I'm doing the best.
Speaker 3: The best performance here for her soul evolution. You cannot
Speaker 3: avoid this to happen. You cannot avoid that, for example,
Speaker 3: those difficulties that she's going to experience in relationship because
Speaker 3: there is also the father part. Okay, there is a
Speaker 3: lot of influence in the father energy in her life,
Speaker 3: not whether he is there or not. Right, She's going
Speaker 3: to be more prone to relate with women than with
Speaker 3: men in general because she is born also with the
Speaker 3: masculine energy very present in her life. Okay, so let's
Speaker 3: say not because there are men around her, but also
Speaker 3: but because she has integrated and masculinity in her You know,
Speaker 3: we all have masculine and feminine energy inside of us.
Speaker 3: So my feeling is that she has very well integrate
Speaker 3: the masculine energy in her life. So this is also
Speaker 3: something that is positive to me. To me, it's positive
Speaker 3: that she have this because the father energy is not precisely,
Speaker 3: you know, in her life in a way that can
Speaker 3: provide her a good example of what is a masculine energy.
Speaker 2: So she doesn't necessarily need I mean, I no wa
Speaker 2: say she just need a good example.
Speaker 5: It's already like within her.
Speaker 3: It's something like she yeah, in her she has like
Speaker 3: masculine and feminine already very well integrated. So even though
Speaker 3: she don't have her parent figure in there, her father
Speaker 3: figure in there, she.
Speaker 4: Has like.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's that's what I'm talking about, But that's
Speaker 3: also forming in her. This is also forming in her
Speaker 3: difficulties in how she goes into relationships. As I was
Speaker 3: telling you about this, her masculine energy being very integrated
Speaker 3: in her, that's going to be helpful in her journey, in.
Speaker 4: Her life journey.
Speaker 3: But there is still this masculine energy that is lacking
Speaker 3: in her life, and it is the one from her father.
Speaker 4: How can a masculine energy being.
Speaker 3: Not present in our lives, for example, just the fact
Speaker 3: that we don't have that father energy precisely, the father
Speaker 3: energy or a broad energy, that that energy is not
Speaker 3: there constantly.
Speaker 4: That will make me understand.
Speaker 3: This aspect, this masculine energy from a very different I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to perceive masculinity in.
Speaker 4: The most healthy way.
Speaker 3: Let's say, okay, the fact that there is not the
Speaker 3: father figure in our lives, it will always create a.
Speaker 4: Balance, yeah, like an imbalance. But also like where is
Speaker 4: going to be.
Speaker 3: I'll to say, like, how are we going to be
Speaker 3: inspired by? Who is going to inspire this masculine energy
Speaker 3: in your life? How is that masculine energy represented in
Speaker 3: our life?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: So for example, in you in your case, Okay, he's there,
Speaker 3: but he's not there. Okay, So when I see her
Speaker 3: shart and I put the pieces together to me the
Speaker 3: masculine energy, even though it's presenting her in her own life, like,
Speaker 3: it's going to be balancing her the way he's going
Speaker 3: to perceive.
Speaker 4: The male energy or man in her life.
Speaker 3: Whether I don't know, well, if she is going to
Speaker 3: be straight or not, for example, I mean that's something
Speaker 3: I cannot tell, you're right from here. But for example,
Speaker 3: let's say that, well that yeah, that she does like guys. Okay,
Speaker 3: so the energy that she will attract to her in
Speaker 3: general will be man's that are very grounded, like working
Speaker 3: man's that are more responsible and also not too much.
Speaker 3: They're not commodities likesha affectionate, thank you, They're not affectionate
Speaker 3: because that's not what she's having, right, I mean, that's
Speaker 3: not the energy she have from her parent, or if
Speaker 3: she don't have a parent, a male parent, the father
Speaker 3: is not a father that brings her a lot of affection, right,
Speaker 3: even though she received it from other people, because this
Speaker 3: morning Leo also can be very affectionate, but the masculine
Speaker 3: energy in her life are not going to have this pattern, right,
Speaker 3: So pretty much.
Speaker 5: Is that what she's going to be. That's what she
Speaker 5: would be attracted to.
Speaker 3: Also subtract, she's going to be attracted to that because
Speaker 3: that's what she's growing with, right. It's like and even
Speaker 3: though I mean this is then in this point we
Speaker 3: will have to get too much deep into psychology or
Speaker 3: something to understand all of this. It can place in
Speaker 3: several ways to meet to what I can see in
Speaker 3: her chart is going to play it in that way.
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Speaker 3: So, this is going to be forming a personality in
Speaker 3: the future that is going to be very independent. She's
Speaker 3: going to be very wild and free in relationships. So
Speaker 3: expect her to be very open. Expect her to be
Speaker 3: very selfish too, like ecocentric. Even expect her to be
Speaker 3: to have a lot of friends also around her, to
Speaker 3: know a lot of people, to be surrounded by people constantly,
Speaker 3: and expect her also to be someone that is surrounded
Speaker 3: by men in general. She can be surrounded by women
Speaker 3: and men both. She's going to be very relationship oriented
Speaker 3: in general, okay, but also a there is going to
Speaker 3: be a aspect on her that it's blocking her approach
Speaker 3: to affection so somehow I feel that she's going to
Speaker 3: have issues in being able to go deep in relationships
Speaker 3: even though she have things to work here with, which
Speaker 3: is her north node. So what I feel when I
Speaker 3: see this shirt and I put it together is that
Speaker 3: she comes here to work very deep in the relationship
Speaker 3: he have with herself through the experiences with others.
Speaker 4: Okay, so whatever, whenever she experienced herself.
Speaker 3: Through other people, she's going to be able to grow
Speaker 3: the relationship he have with herself, because that's the gold
Speaker 3: to learn to relate with herself.
Speaker 4: But she's going to do.
Speaker 3: It through other people exactly, to mirroring and through relationships.
Speaker 4: So it's not easy.
Speaker 2: So it's important for her, at least for me as
Speaker 2: an a parent, to make sure that the people around
Speaker 2: her are really positive forces because she's experiencing herself through them.
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully that's possible, exactly.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting because she's such an affectionate child, at
Speaker 2: least to me and to like like to other people too,
Speaker 2: like to her, like her siblings.
Speaker 1: And she is selective about her affection now she is
Speaker 1: because even for me, she's very like she's and she
Speaker 1: feels like it, you know, Neili, Yeah, very like if
Speaker 1: she if she wants to, if she feels comfortable. It's
Speaker 1: not like everybody gets granted that she's very selective with
Speaker 1: who she's like, will be open, open with, and.
Speaker 4: So not that she's not friendly or like she will
Speaker 4: talk like her Luna and her will attack a stranger
Speaker 4: in no time.
Speaker 1: But like also it's just it's in her comfort zone too, see.
Speaker 3: I mean definitely. I mean and she's a child too.
Speaker 3: She has not experienced yet the toughness of life that much, right,
Speaker 3: and she's been in a safe space. So definitely, I
Speaker 3: can't imagine that she's still very affectionate and she will be.
Speaker 4: I mean that doesn't mean that she will not, but.
Speaker 3: The fact that she comes to experience herself through too
Speaker 3: much through relationships. I mean, she can experience any kind
Speaker 3: of situations in relationships.
Speaker 4: I don't feel they're all bad, not at all.
Speaker 3: But definitely that's what she shoulds and that's to me,
Speaker 3: the most important is that you guys understand that you
Speaker 3: need to respect that too.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm thinking about that now because to me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't understand that for me, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't need a lot of people around.
Speaker 5: In fact, I don't like a lot of people around.
Speaker 2: I can do it in doses, but yeah, and like
Speaker 2: having to witness my daughter do that, I like, I
Speaker 2: think instinctually I would tell her like you need to
Speaker 2: be alone, like you need to just chill, and like
Speaker 2: that would not be good for her or that's not
Speaker 2: what her you know, her soul path is. And me,
Speaker 2: as a parent would say, well, this is what works
Speaker 2: for me, and this is what's done worked for me,
Speaker 2: and this.
Speaker 5: Is why you should probably do that too.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what parents do in general, likeerience,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 5: What I've been around longer than you, so this is
Speaker 5: what worked for me.
Speaker 2: And my mom says that all the time to me,
Speaker 2: and in many ways, my mom has proven to be
Speaker 2: correct about a lot of things. Yes, but I think
Speaker 2: that I'm glad to hear that because that's something I
Speaker 2: need to know as her mother, that like those are
Speaker 2: that's kind of like what she needs in order to
Speaker 2: kind of know herself.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and it's her soul journeying too, you know,
Speaker 3: and you will, I think one of a good thing
Speaker 3: to do when they are kids. They're very pure, they're
Speaker 3: pure souls, and even though they don't know anything about life,
Speaker 3: they're really very well connected to higher realms. They're really
Speaker 3: connected also to their higher self, which is the one
Speaker 3: that Kingdom knows the truth. There is a wise inner
Speaker 3: being in ourselves, in all of us, and when we
Speaker 3: are kids that it's there we can access. So there
Speaker 3: is also another thing that we can encourage the kids
Speaker 3: to do, like how to access that in our knowledge
Speaker 3: since there are little kids, so you can also it's
Speaker 3: also to start trusting that they have this wisdom in them,
Speaker 3: that they can feel that whatever they feel attracted to
Speaker 3: the most part of the most part of the time
Speaker 3: is they're right and it's positive for them. I mean,
Speaker 3: as long as you're not exposing them to abuse. Of course,
Speaker 3: I mean you need to also are you're the adult too.
Speaker 3: But the most part of the time they know that
Speaker 3: there are certain things that are important for them, and
Speaker 3: you need to trust also in that little in ourself
Speaker 3: that it's in them right.
Speaker 4: That is, they're guiding them through their own experiences.
Speaker 3: What happened with parents is that there are all the
Speaker 3: time thinking that they know what is right, and that's
Speaker 3: not precisely true. I come back to my case, because
Speaker 3: my cases so much like that that I always wish
Speaker 3: my mother wasn't an astrology into astrology. With that venos
Speaker 3: in Leo plus some other things. I supposed to be dancer,
Speaker 3: and you know, since I was a kid, I wanted
Speaker 3: to be in ballet and doing stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: what she did was completely to put me in a room,
Speaker 3: to lock me up, and I was not able to play,
Speaker 3: and me I was all about being out there. Obviously,
Speaker 3: she developed my whole natal chart through that attitude. I
Speaker 3: mean like I accomplished my life mission that of her
Speaker 3: putting Lucky in there and ignoring who I was, even
Speaker 3: rejecting who I was, even tell me you shut up,
Speaker 3: you don't play, you don't do stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Even doing all of.
Speaker 3: That made me go through the rest of my life,
Speaker 3: which was in my natal chart. So I got it.
Speaker 3: But if somebody told her, like Liten, that's not the
Speaker 3: way you have to treat Sylvia, you know, you need
Speaker 3: to put her into acting and dancing because that's her essence,
Speaker 3: I would probably take completely another path in life.
Speaker 4: And I want, you know, like it's completely different.
Speaker 3: So this is so complicated because even though you know it,
Speaker 3: there is a path that needs to be worked.
Speaker 4: So if you know this.
Speaker 3: Information, if you're going to have this information already, it's
Speaker 3: going to be of good help for them. If you
Speaker 3: don't have it, it's still fine because this soul comes
Speaker 3: here to accomplish something and there is nothing that can
Speaker 3: be against, nothing can matter.
Speaker 2: I can get some insight on the cheat codes a
Speaker 2: little bit, I'm gonna take it because I would like to.
Speaker 2: I want her to have blossom and full capacity, yes,
Speaker 2: you know, at least and in any way that I
Speaker 2: can assist.
Speaker 5: I know that the world is going to do what
Speaker 5: it does.
Speaker 2: You know, and if I can just assist in you know,
Speaker 2: helping her complete her soul's mission, then I want to
Speaker 2: do that, even if it is uncomfortable for me at times,
Speaker 2: because it sounds like it's going to be because.
Speaker 5: I don't that's not that's not in my nature. You know.
Speaker 2: It's not how I recharge, it's not how I feel
Speaker 2: like i'm it's not my sole path, you know, it's
Speaker 2: not to be I guess healing through or healing through all.
Speaker 5: Of my like having a lot of people around.
Speaker 2: I guess I would say that doesn't feel good to me,
Speaker 2: you know, So I'm going to have to just shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up, just let it happen.
Speaker 3: See that, because yeah, she's completely something different there, and
Speaker 3: you know she's going to be Also, you need to
Speaker 3: encourage her to to study. They're not all the kids
Speaker 3: come here to study, honestly, Like I hate the fucking
Speaker 3: school system. That's not that's completely out of I mean,
Speaker 3: like what are they trying to do here? I mean,
Speaker 3: you're some are going to be actors and that's their potential.
Speaker 3: Some are going to be into sports, some are going
Speaker 3: to be into they're really into study.
Speaker 4: They're really go to school for taking stuff. So this
Speaker 4: is also very important for you to know.
Speaker 3: She has a very strong potential to study into even
Speaker 3: universities and stuff like that. So if she wants to
Speaker 3: go to school, if she wants to do something she
Speaker 3: tells you, okay, I would like to be philosopher whatever,
Speaker 3: that's something positive for her. She has good aspects for
Speaker 3: higher studies, university and stuff like that. So I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure she is that oriented and you need to encourage.
Speaker 4: Her to go to school.
Speaker 2: She loves to learn, loves Yeah, she loves to travel
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 5: She loves to learn and she loves to be the.
Speaker 4: Best no one at all times.
Speaker 3: One of the good things you're doing with her is
Speaker 3: that you're traveling with her. That is one of the
Speaker 3: highest learnings for somebody with these aspects in astrology, you know,
Speaker 3: Like I think traveling for her can teach her a lot,
Speaker 3: and it's a good way for her and also for you.
Speaker 3: You know, you both enjoy together and she can learn
Speaker 3: a lot for sure, So this is something positive studies
Speaker 3: for her. I don't well, we will see for Luna,
Speaker 3: but in her case, yes, there is also to understand
Speaker 3: the wound that she'd bring to earth, you know, and
Speaker 3: that's a wind of not feeling. There's Kiren. You know,
Speaker 3: I talked to you about Kiren the centaur. The centaur
Speaker 3: exactly in mythology, that is, they call it the wounded
Speaker 3: healer and whatever it is in ornatal chart is talking
Speaker 3: about where we have our.
Speaker 4: Wound, So we all come here with a wound. And
Speaker 4: in her case it's in pieces.
Speaker 3: So there is a long, big, huge generation that is
Speaker 3: born with Chiren im pieces. It depends in which house
Speaker 3: folds that is going to be activated. But in her case,
Speaker 3: to me, there is you need to be very aware
Speaker 3: that she might experience, the collective wounds, the collective pain,
Speaker 3: the collective umbalances in her physical body. So if you
Speaker 3: perceive her that sometimes she's too tired, that sometimes she
Speaker 3: gets sick and you know, and.
Speaker 4: She don't even know why. She's like, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, I feel tired or I feel You have
Speaker 3: no explanation why. I mean, she's just not sick. But
Speaker 3: it's because she is, like she has like this antenna
Speaker 3: for collective things. So let's say that astrology is going
Speaker 3: nuts in that moment and she's just liking bed crying.
Speaker 3: Don't think that she's crazy. You don't think that something's wrong.
Speaker 3: She's just very sensitive to these kind of energy. Okay,
Speaker 3: And you need to also allow her to just go
Speaker 3: into her own process without asking her too much. Because
Speaker 3: she don't even know what's going on. She cannot She
Speaker 3: will not have an explanation for you. And if you insist,
Speaker 3: tell me what is going on? Thinking that she has
Speaker 3: a trauma, that's body abuse her or something like that,
Speaker 3: or what's going on with you?
Speaker 4: Why are you acting like this? You leave her, You.
Speaker 3: Leave her and you put her the best you can
Speaker 3: help her a lot in the water. She do hers
Speaker 3: good to be near the water, whether a pool, whether
Speaker 3: the river, whether the ocean. Everything that she can be
Speaker 3: close to water is very positive for her. Okay, this
Speaker 3: is something also that it's important for for you guys
Speaker 3: to know lately what is the best environment for your kids.
Speaker 3: And that's something that is possible to see in your
Speaker 3: Nate in natal Shark. For sure, there is something that
Speaker 3: I want to take a look for both of you
Speaker 3: and in your case about like the sinustry that I
Speaker 3: told you, like what are the hardest aspects when you
Speaker 3: put both of your charts together, because this is like
Speaker 3: even when this is also where when you have in
Speaker 3: a relationship when you want to know if a man
Speaker 3: is good for you or not exactly so, but here
Speaker 3: for your with you and your daughter, I want to
Speaker 3: take a look as well as the strongest aspect or
Speaker 3: what is the most difficult the oppositions or the squares
Speaker 3: that are here.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's see.
Speaker 3: Well, she comes to bring you a lot of a structure,
Speaker 3: a lot of structure. So that's something that you need
Speaker 3: to know. She comes here to put limits on you,
Speaker 3: not because she is going to be like that, but
Speaker 3: it's just something that is a natural thing you probably
Speaker 3: were before her, were really free and wild, and she
Speaker 3: came to just come to Okay, structs you as a mother,
Speaker 3: structuring you also in your personality, in who you are
Speaker 3: and what people perceive of you.
Speaker 4: And okay, what else here? Okay, this is good.
Speaker 2: I always say that, like I think I've always said
Speaker 2: that Iri is the top of child that needs structure,
Speaker 2: that she thrives in that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know she's a Taurus, you know, but.
Speaker 2: Also that she has she's giving me more structure because
Speaker 2: I don't I don't navigate that way. I have some
Speaker 2: of it because my mom is very my whole, my mom,
Speaker 2: my grandmother, the women in my life, they're very like
Speaker 2: need organization, and I've always been like the wild card
Speaker 2: and they're like never understood.
Speaker 5: Like I was always in trouble because.
Speaker 2: I was losing things or I was you know, just
Speaker 2: my interests would change or this or that. And I
Speaker 2: feel like I've realized that that's one thing I will say,
Speaker 2: like that, I know my daughter like she likes a schedule,
Speaker 2: she likes to know what's happening, and I've had to
Speaker 2: like adjust my life because of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's and that's okay. With me.
Speaker 4: Yes exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean that's it's good and to me, that's probably
Speaker 3: the strongest aspet you have.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to take a look care of something else,
Speaker 4: just to make sure.
Speaker 3: No, there are people that are born with extremely strong
Speaker 3: karma in between mother and daughter.
Speaker 4: You don't have that, and that's positive.
Speaker 3: That means that your relationship, even though sometimes you think
Speaker 3: is the difficult, it's fine.
Speaker 4: I mean it's very harmonious. I don't see too.
Speaker 3: Much heart aspects or karmas As I said.
Speaker 4: You already have yours.
Speaker 3: You were born with some so but she's not coming
Speaker 3: to activate that aspect in you. She's actually coming to
Speaker 3: help you in your process of becoming a better version
Speaker 3: of yourself, is supporting a higher version of you. So
Speaker 3: I just wanted to take a look at that before. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we can also talk about her daughter. I don't know
Speaker 3: if if you have any more questions here. I mean,
Speaker 3: I like you to ask me more.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I guess I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I told you earlier that my like,
Speaker 2: my biggest my concern is that I'm not like, how
Speaker 2: do I give my Leo moonchild the attention that she needs?
Speaker 2: And then I know that her ascending I know her,
Speaker 2: so her son isn't tours.
Speaker 5: Her moon is in Leo, and then her ascendant is
Speaker 5: in Virgo.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that ver go, I mean minors Scorpio,
Speaker 2: and my moon is Sagittarius, so I don't know if
Speaker 2: like my do any of those things.
Speaker 3: Your moon makes a see your moon makes a really
Speaker 3: good aspect with her moon. So that means the way
Speaker 3: you expressed emotions are positive.
Speaker 4: You know, like she can.
Speaker 3: She got you in the way you express your love,
Speaker 3: and you will understand the way she expressed her emotions too.
Speaker 3: And you said, then her ascendant is in verry when
Speaker 3: your ascendant was a scorpio, right, So that's also make
Speaker 3: a good aspect. It's earth and water, so that's positive.
Speaker 3: But anyways, when there is something hard here, it's immediate
Speaker 3: for me to see. But yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 3: you're both making good aspects in between you.
Speaker 2: I was telling Jamila a few days ago, it's like,
Speaker 2: I think I need to get Iri in some activities
Speaker 2: that are more like let her shine, like let her
Speaker 2: like I noticed that like when she served she went
Speaker 2: under a surf lesson.
Speaker 5: And this is just kids in general. When they do well,
Speaker 5: they get happy, you know.
Speaker 2: But I could see that it was like such a
Speaker 2: confidence booster for her, and I was like, I need to, Like,
Speaker 2: right now, she's in a lot of end of team
Speaker 2: she's in team activities, and some of them she's in piano,
Speaker 2: which is a little bit isolating and doesn't allow her
Speaker 2: to really like at least not right now. Maybe I
Speaker 2: haven't really been like nurturing that as much as I should,
Speaker 2: but like I just feel like she needs to feel
Speaker 2: like really good at what she does and be able
Speaker 2: to show it. Yes, And I was like, what are
Speaker 2: like she does Like she loves soccer. I was like, shit,
Speaker 2: that's a team thing. Surfing is more solo. But whatever
Speaker 2: it is that I you know, help nurture needs to
Speaker 2: I need to make sure that it's like making her
Speaker 2: feel like I don't want to say the best, because
Speaker 2: she also has to.
Speaker 5: Learn that like you lose sometimes.
Speaker 2: I think that's really a little bit difficult for her
Speaker 2: to understand, or like seeing other people's talents like that
Speaker 2: she doesn't have, Like like Luna is like a fucking performer.
Speaker 5: Okay, she will.
Speaker 2: Literally just but like no, like literally like no one's watching,
Speaker 2: no one nobby watching, and she.
Speaker 5: Is really good at it.
Speaker 2: And I could tell like I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: she's not that great dancing yet, and I could make
Speaker 2: her feel like a little bit like.
Speaker 4: No, and she's very competitive.
Speaker 3: Oh, she's very competitive, and you need to encourage that
Speaker 3: on her respect that do not make her feel that
Speaker 3: she's wrong. I mean, it's in her nature and she
Speaker 3: is going to take her far, you know. So I
Speaker 3: don't think you have to worry too much that she
Speaker 3: wants to be the best or that she's always competitive.
Speaker 3: It's just I mean that's very viticle too, you know,
Speaker 3: her ascendance, so that's like, you know, she and she
Speaker 3: needs to be the best, she needs to be perfect,
Speaker 3: and that's okay. It's just to me, what kind of
Speaker 3: exercise can be good for her? Well, I will definitely
Speaker 3: see her doing kind of joga and that kind of
Speaker 3: stubb when she's grown, probably, and I think you should
Speaker 3: encourage that on her too, but mostly in her in
Speaker 3: her studies academically. I think that's a very positive aspect
Speaker 3: that she having her shirt. So yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: know everything that is competition has to be done, has.
Speaker 4: To be done for her.
Speaker 3: She's going to if now she's just going to look
Speaker 3: by herself to do it. You know, she probably wants
Speaker 3: to be in competition in her classroom too.
Speaker 2: She's in competition with everyone all the time, okay, including me.
Speaker 2: She's like, I did better than you, right, I'm like,
Speaker 2: yeah'd be good and better than me.
Speaker 5: She's like, okay, good.
Speaker 3: This letter is like okay, yes, but tell her no
Speaker 3: when it's also known yeah m hm, so she can
Speaker 3: push herself further and don't feed that Leomono like I'm perfect,
Speaker 3: I'm the best.
Speaker 5: Okay. Well, thank you. That was really insightful.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay.
Speaker 2: Gives me more clarity and also a reminder that I
Speaker 2: am doing enough and that I am the mother for
Speaker 2: her because yesterday I was not feeling. Now I was
Speaker 2: crying and I was getting really emotional feeling like I
Speaker 2: told her yesterday.
Speaker 4: Because let it happened.
Speaker 5: It's just like she just kept meeting.
Speaker 2: She just kept like it was just like mom my,
Speaker 2: mom ama, every five seconds, and it was just like
Speaker 2: she wanted to come sit next to me, and she could.
Speaker 5: She comes next to next me and she's like, you're
Speaker 5: ignoring me, and I was like, how am ignoring it?
Speaker 5: Just comes sit next to me like I don't like
Speaker 5: you know, I love you.
Speaker 2: I'm always showing you love and affection, and you know,
Speaker 2: I had to tell her.
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, sometimes you make me feel like.
Speaker 2: I'm not a good mom, like and then she got
Speaker 2: really sad and like cried, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: just have to tell you, like I am doing my
Speaker 2: best to like love you and give you all of
Speaker 2: my attention, but irie I am, I can't give you
Speaker 2: every bit of my attention. I have to have some
Speaker 2: for me too, like I'm working, I'm facilitating this trip
Speaker 2: for you, everything that you wanted to do that you've done,
Speaker 2: like I don't know what else to give you, like,
Speaker 2: and she was just sad and like we talked last
Speaker 2: night and in the bed, and she couldn't tell me
Speaker 2: why she was upset, Like she just was crying, crying, crying,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 5: Was like, what is it?
Speaker 2: And so I started naming things, which then I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's really what it is because she's just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it. And so I just feel like I was
Speaker 2: never going to be able to give her enough attention.
Speaker 2: And granted, I'm very busy, you know, like I'm very
Speaker 2: busy and I am distracted sometimes technology and work, and
Speaker 2: I don't plan on getting less busy right now, So
Speaker 2: it's like trying to find balance of like giving her
Speaker 2: undivided attention but also knowing like sometimes I got to
Speaker 2: step away and I got to do something, and that's
Speaker 2: the step away that she cannot she doesn't like and
Speaker 2: doesn't can't handle.
Speaker 5: So I guess it's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm trying to give her tools to like
Speaker 2: relax too, because when she gets upset, she gets so
Speaker 2: worked up, and it reminds me of me when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, because I had a lot of emotions
Speaker 2: and I was only asked. I wasn't asked all the
Speaker 2: time about my emotions, so when I did, they were
Speaker 2: just I couldn't express them because they were just so overwhelming.
Speaker 2: And I just to make sure that I'm creating a
Speaker 2: space where she feels like she can talk to me.
Speaker 2: I know she's sick, so sometimes she doesn't have the words,
Speaker 2: and maybe she doesn't even understand why she's upset, and
Speaker 2: like when you said, like she doesn't understand sometimes whereas
Speaker 2: like you know, Luna, she'll be like this made me
Speaker 2: feel like this, you know, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like what was coming to me when you were talking.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, when we want to understand better
Speaker 3: a moon in an astrology, we really need to get
Speaker 3: deep into that moon. I'm lacking of information. There are
Speaker 3: books full of information about moon in leo for example.
Speaker 5: Is the sun sign less important?
Speaker 4: The sun sign? And well, that represents more the ego
Speaker 4: of the person. It is very important. But somehow there
Speaker 4: are certain moments what I feel.
Speaker 3: I really need to put put it out and focused
Speaker 3: more into that. As I said, I'm more intuitive in
Speaker 3: my work. I mean, and I will be very different
Speaker 3: for you than what I'm going to do for her.
Speaker 3: It's when it's not precisely well asked, it needs to
Speaker 3: be bring brought out. But anyways, any every kind of
Speaker 3: interpretation that I'm doing for you, I'm including.
Speaker 4: This energy already.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, it's I cannot make them separate. I already
Speaker 3: have the whole thing together, you know, I interpretate the
Speaker 3: whole thing together. Okay, So but I mean, of course
Speaker 3: it is important, of course it is important, But there
Speaker 3: are other aspects that goes direct to the sun sign
Speaker 3: that are making a whole differences.
Speaker 1: Because I'm the mother oh my god, my Leo is
Speaker 1: son and that makes sense for me, like my ego,
Speaker 1: Like I'm already super sensitive because I'm a cancer.
Speaker 4: And then you add the leo. Now that you're saying this,
Speaker 4: it's like it.
Speaker 1: Heightens the sensitivity because it's like the ego part. You know,
Speaker 1: even if I know something is like not important, it's
Speaker 1: like extra job, like you know, because I'm just I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you hear the sun and the moon and
Speaker 1: the descend it, and then it's how you interpret that
Speaker 1: and what that actually means is different.
Speaker 3: So that makes you know you need to make as
Speaker 3: an astrologer, you need to make an interpretation of the
Speaker 3: whole picture.
Speaker 4: You cannot separate each of them.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you explain it and separately in this case is important.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so what I was going to tell you for
Speaker 3: what you were sharing with me is that I think
Speaker 3: you know what I'm what I'm receiving here is that
Speaker 3: you should just be very when she's into that attitude
Speaker 3: to ask her with all the love, like what do
Speaker 3: you feel?
Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure you did it already, but it's
Speaker 4: like what will make you feel loved?
Speaker 5: I didn't ask for that, but.
Speaker 3: I think that because that's what Leo wants love. Well,
Speaker 3: that's what makes you feel loved, Darnie.
Speaker 2: I think I was just like, what's wrong, and so no,
Speaker 2: that's not the right way to ask it.
Speaker 5: So next time I will ask her that way.
Speaker 4: I feel like, what will make you feel love?
Speaker 3: And just give her more of that because you can
Speaker 3: take her to the whole planet to travel.
Speaker 4: If that is not love for her, she will not
Speaker 4: appreciate that you're doing that for her.
Speaker 3: Remember that there are certain things that you think is
Speaker 3: good for her, but she's just yea, yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: So yeah, when I was enlightening for me, thank you. Okay,
Speaker 5: I don't want to take up any of me more
Speaker 5: of the time.
Speaker 2: I want you to do Jimilla and Luna.
Speaker 3: Okay, so now we're going with Luna.
Speaker 4: She is completely different, shy.
Speaker 3: She's so different than Irie. And she's also born with
Speaker 3: the north note in Libra, but in another house it
Speaker 3: holds in another house the north the notes are where
Speaker 3: the eclipses happen, so they normally it takes two years
Speaker 3: for a Nord note to transit one sign. So there
Speaker 3: is also like groups of people with the same note
Speaker 3: in depends on when they're born. Okay, So okay, then
Speaker 3: she has her moon in a scorpiond she have a
Speaker 3: stadium in the sixth house in a scorpio, so that
Speaker 3: means that well, no, thenus is in Sagittary is here.
Speaker 3: So she have Mercury, the moon, Saturn, and the Sun
Speaker 3: in the sign of a scorpion.
Speaker 4: That makes four planets in a scorpio.
Speaker 3: And she also have Pluto on Mars in the eight house,
Speaker 3: which is the house of a scorpion. So we can
Speaker 3: be talking here about a very very escorpionic person with
Speaker 3: a lot of scorpio energy. And what these tell us. Okay,
Speaker 3: the moon in a scorpio. If we think about the moon,
Speaker 3: the moon is what do you think about when you
Speaker 3: think about the moon.
Speaker 4: What makes you think?
Speaker 5: Like who you are?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: You know, like if I tell you, like think about
Speaker 3: the moon, what inspires you?
Speaker 5: Wichi?
Speaker 4: Wichi? Okay, intuitive, uh huh, just give us a little
Speaker 4: bit log.
Speaker 5: There she goes, she comes delivers the message.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you think about witching me. I think about feelings, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think yeah, emotional exactly. And when you think about
Speaker 3: the scorpion, what do you know about the scorpion? What
Speaker 3: have you heard of a scorpion.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a scorpio, So they tell me.
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be jealous, I'm possessive, I'm entuitive, I'm sexual,
Speaker 2: highly sexual all those things ways.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 3: But also everything that is related with that energy, with
Speaker 3: sex for example, which is to me is very scorpionic energy.
Speaker 4: It's also related with death.
Speaker 3: Death cannot go without creation, without creation, without the sex.
Speaker 3: Let's say, to have an orgasm, you need to pretty
Speaker 3: much die to your ego, to let yourself go to
Speaker 3: be able to reach those realms, right, you die every
Speaker 3: time you create, there's some that is dead, you know,
Speaker 3: Like it's all about transformation. So to me, a scorpio,
Speaker 3: there is a lot of energy out. So like the phoenix,
Speaker 3: it burns itself and then it comes back again. The
Speaker 3: scorpio also can be kills himself too, So the energy
Speaker 3: of the moon in a scorpio, it's all about that.
Speaker 3: So there is death surrounded the birth of a scorpio moon,
Speaker 3: whether because you have a miscarriage or abortions before her,
Speaker 3: so that meant that she was grown in a womb
Speaker 3: where there were dead before, or it can be also
Speaker 3: that there were death in your life. Somebody died when
Speaker 3: you were prainted, or when you conceive her, or in
Speaker 3: her time of birth.
Speaker 4: There has something about it in that time. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you relate with this, if you think it's.
Speaker 1: I think that her dad's grandmother died maybe the year
Speaker 1: before she was born.
Speaker 4: I had two abortions before I had Luna. That's it.
Speaker 4: That's it. So she was grown.
Speaker 3: She's grown after two miscarriaged or two abortions after death.
Speaker 3: And that's the moon in a scorpion, and that brings
Speaker 3: her in cors parade into her DNA let's say, certain.
Speaker 4: Kind of energy and there it's very strong. We can
Speaker 4: see it here. It's a powerful scorpio energy in them.
Speaker 4: So what can we respect of somebody that can feel
Speaker 4: death so close to her?
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