1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy Jesse Hilarious, Charlamagne to God. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. Justice on maternity leave. Laura 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: la Ross is feeling in and we got a special 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: guest in the building. Comptence, finest ladies and gentlemen, Demal 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: de Rose and welcome man. 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: It's honor man, my brother doing good. How you doing? 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 4: And blessed black and hoghly favored man. You new book 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 4: out above the Noise, My Story of Chasing Calm. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I love that title. 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 4: When I hear that title, I know a man that's 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 4: doing the work on himself. 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: Man, trying. Man, it's definitely a challenge, something that's not easy. 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: Take time, it's patience. Gotta give yourself grace. You know, 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: we go through a lot of stuff. You know that 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: we we sweep under the rug, and a lot of 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: times by the time we figured it out, we we 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: deep in. And it takes a lot of work to 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: try to figure that out. So, you know, just trying 20 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 3: to expire, get the message out there, and just try 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: to break the stigma. More than more than anything, I. 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: Love what you said in The New York Times about 23 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: how more athletes need to open up about their mental 24 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: health and basically you said the need to show their 25 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: Clark Kent side. 26 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, everybody look at us like we're just 27 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: superhero so much. 28 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Without doubt, I'll dunk on you. 29 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: You can't even test the net, can't take you serious. 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: And it's definitely, you know, I think for me, you know, 31 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: I look at it. We fall in love with a 32 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: lot of superheroes because who they you know, who they 33 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: are at night? You know, we we never appreciate the 34 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: person before they put on the mask, and a lot 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: of times we carry that mask more than anything, you know, 36 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: even me to this day. That's one thing I'm trying 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: to break. You know. It's tough when you gotta you 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: gotta kind of be two different people, you know, and 39 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: sometimes you forget the most important person at times and 40 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: put yourself in it in a deep depression at times, 41 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: and it's tough to get out of. 42 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: I want to I want to know your journey when 43 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: it came to the NBA, right because growing up as 44 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: a kid, there wasn't as many leagues where it was training. 45 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: We just kids played in the park and the good 46 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: kid with the high school played on a high school team, 47 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: playing in college. But now it seems like everything is 48 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: foreseen as training, you gotta train, train six days a week, 49 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Lamar Olderman. In all those days to play park, they went 50 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: to rut and play ball and kept the moving. So 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: what was your journey getting too the league? And explain 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: to some of the kids out there who have that 53 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: dream how difficult it was to get there. 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: First of all, like you said, like growing up, like 55 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: we didn't know nothing about training. It was all like 56 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: if I go to the play at the park from 57 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: sun up to sundown, that's what I'm gonna be able 58 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: to do. You know, That's what I'm gonna do. It's 59 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: in the backyard, if it's making a crate playing basketball, 60 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: Like my aspiration was always trying to escape from my 61 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: reality with sports, you know what I mean, whether we 62 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: played football in the streets, whatever, whatever it may be. 63 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: You know, we use sports as a gateway, you know, 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: for peace. And for a long time, you don't even 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: consider like working out. You just want to hoop, you know. 66 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: So as you get older, it becomes more difficult when 67 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: you got to take those necessary steps to you know, 68 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: evolve into a true basketball So it's definitely a long road, 69 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, and especially now, I can't even imagine what 70 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: social media and so much stuff that's in front of 71 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: these kids. Now you basically famous by the time you know, 72 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: you in middle school, you know, So it's definitely difficult 73 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: these days, more more so than ever. When before it 74 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: just used to be about the game. 75 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: When did you realize you were you were that good 76 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: to make it to the league. Because as a kid, 77 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: everybody thinks they Jordan, everybody thinks they Kobe, everybody thinks 78 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: they every player that they ever imagined. When did you know, like, oh, 79 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: I got a shot. 80 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: When it was a true real life belief. 81 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: Probably by the time I was probably like in the 82 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: nineteenth grade, when it was like, all right, if I 83 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: keep working at this, I maybe I still maybe have 84 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: a chance. But for me, everything was still felt so 85 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: far fetched because you know, you didn't know nothing about college. 86 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 3: I didn't have nobody in my family go d one, 87 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: So even just going to college was a big thing, like, man, 88 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: I gotta at least make it to college, like damn 89 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: the league. College was more so the the big obstacle 90 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: for me to make it to there. So by the 91 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: time my senior year, I know I was going to 92 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: SC I knew, I know it was a chance for 93 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: after that for me to go pro for sure. 94 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: What about your father, because I love seeing black men 95 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: celebrate their fathers. And you dedicated the book to your father, 96 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: Frank de Rosen. What was some of the values he contributed, 97 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: you know. 98 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: And still to your to your upbringing, not just as 99 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: a man, more than anything, you know, he taught me 100 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: the art of hard working, resiliency, being a man more 101 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: so than anything. And one thing growing up that he always, 102 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: you know, preached to me that you know, we was 103 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: growing up in a cruel society. So he prepared me 104 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: on on how to deal with that more so than anything, 105 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: how to deal with white folks. Yeah, just period. My 106 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: dad was from the country. He was from the South 107 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: so Vdelia. It's a small in Louisiana, a small, small, 108 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: small town. Remember when I was a kid, he first 109 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: took me there. He showed me cotton fields and all 110 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: this stuff. It was it was crazy. They still boiled 111 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: their water to take baths, you know what I mean. 112 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: So that was real humbling for me at a young age, 113 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: especially being from Compton, going to go see the you know, 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: the countryside of my dad, but he showed me just 115 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: the importance of hard work, sticking to your word, and 116 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: you know, everything that he went through, he never complained. 117 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: Is your dad one of the old g's that brought 118 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: them horses to Compton? That's the good No, he didn't. 119 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: What was the Compton like that you grew up in. 120 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: I mean in the time, I thought it was a norm, 121 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, of being around you know, such an aggressive 122 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: nature of you know, gangs and everything because it was 123 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: so it was so family oriented. You know, I grew 124 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: up during the time, like you know, it still was 125 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: those kind of old school rules where you know, the 126 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: guys in the neighborhood are gonna protect you to stay 127 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: away from all the you know, the bullshit that was 128 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: going on. And that was one thing that definitely helped me. 129 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: You know, even though it was aggressive, you had to 130 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 3: deal with a lot of obstacles, but you know, it 131 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: was a lot of people that looked out for me 132 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: more so than anything, to keep keep you on the 133 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: right track. 134 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: Coming from Compton. I know. 135 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 6: In twenty eighteen is when you sent out the tweet, 136 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 6: the depression get the Best of Me tweet that kind 137 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 6: of sparked all of the conversation and. 138 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 5: I know you were back in LA at the time. 139 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 6: Do you think or did you feel like was it 140 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 6: like survivors remorse because you're so connected to home and family. 141 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 5: Now you're back and you're at the height of your career, Like. 142 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me, that's when everything hit the 143 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: wall for me because my career was, you know, taking 144 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: off at a at a peak that I never would imagine. 145 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: You know, I'm coming back home to LA being a 146 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: starter for the All Star team, and you know, all 147 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: I cared about in that moment was get home and 148 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: see my kids, when to see my daughters. I didn't 149 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: care about nothing else. But it's like as soon as 150 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: I got to LA, it's everybody asked for something, needing something, 151 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: wanting tickets, wanted to do this. Everybody had this pre 152 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: notion of like I felt like I was getting plotted 153 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: on in a sense, you know what I mean, when 154 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I just want to 155 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: go hug my kids. I want to do what my 156 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: kids want to do. But it's like the overwhelming feeling 157 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: of I see myself in all these hotel downtown LA. 158 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: It was just a lot and it kind of put 159 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff in perspective for me, and I 160 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: kind of just you know, I hit a wall at 161 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: that point. 162 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: Was Toronto a better place for you because you're away 163 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: from everybody that you grew up with? And was that 164 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: a mistake? Leaving Toronto? 165 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: Toronto was the best thing that happened for me, because 166 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: at that time, even when I was at s C, like, 167 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: if I had a good day or a bad day, 168 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: I was still going to Compton, like still going to 169 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: stay at my mama house in Compton. I'm still around 170 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: the same type of environment. So I really wasn't, you know, 171 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: evolving in a way I needed to, you know, I 172 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: still ran back to what I was comfortable with. So 173 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: when I left s SE got drafted, you know, I 174 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: go to a whole nother country, Toronto. 175 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Like hell, A lot of beautiful women in Toronto. It's 176 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: a beautiful place. Love like love it a lot of 177 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: beautiful women. 178 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: He heard. 179 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: It definitely is, like it's it's so wild because I 180 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: didn't realize how much I needed to be away from home, 181 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: like and it was to the point to where like 182 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: nobody in my family had a passport. One of my 183 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: cousins would go no like, so I was there by myself. 184 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: So it forced me to kind of grow up in 185 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: a way to help me mature in a in a 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: very professional way where I paid attention to nothing but 187 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: working on my craft, how to be the best player, 188 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: best individual, listening to all the ogs. Like, I didn't 189 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: have no outside distraction because I can't have the homies 190 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: come up. I can't have had a fam come up. 191 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: Nobody got no damn passport, like, and it wasn't easy 192 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: getting a passport. So it was something that that definitely 193 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: was a necessity in my career at that point, and 194 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of things that I learned 195 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: from my time being away from home. Then I still 196 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: carry to this day just understanding solitude and being able 197 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: to being myself. 198 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: But that's the first time you felt the come yeah. 199 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, unknowingly too, you know what I mean, Because it 200 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: wasn't no distraction. I had no choice but to be 201 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: to myself. And with that, you know, shitting now you 202 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: got to figure out, you know, how to how to 203 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: do laundry, how to how to what to eat, like 204 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: so much stuff when before you know, I'm gonna just 205 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: go to moms, man'na have moms make me something to 206 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: eat this this So it definitely was a calm. Like 207 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: I said, even to this point, that make it easier 208 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: for me when I need those moments to be alone, 209 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: Like it's easy to do. 210 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: The decision to leave Toronto, why was that? 211 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: That was tough? That was tough because at that point, 212 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: you know, I was nine years in. It was the 213 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: only place I ever knew, the only place I you know, 214 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: wanted to stay invested so much there. You know, I 215 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: grew there. I was nineteen when I got drafted. You know, 216 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: I had two kids up to that point, so I 217 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: became a father. Like just was a lot going on. 218 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: You never thought in your mind that you were leaving 219 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: a place that you know, you had so much success in. 220 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: So when that happened, you know, it took a hit. 221 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: But you know, looking back on it, I'm glad you 222 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: know it happened because that's another point in my life 223 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: that that was needed for me to bro much more 224 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: than I ever could imagine. 225 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: And you left Toronto and you went to Chicago. I 226 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: went to San Antonio, San Antonio and then Chicago. Cago 227 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: was there was the rumors of you going to l 228 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: a ever real. 229 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one one with Lebron. 230 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, how close did it get? 231 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: It was like it was it was basically like a 232 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: done deal at one point. And I remember waking up 233 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: and I remember leaving LA because I just knew, like man, 234 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: free agency starting, I'm about to sign with the Lakers 235 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: is about to be a fucking ship show, like you 236 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I took a vacation, got 237 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: away with the I think I went to Cabo or something, 238 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: and you know, I look on Twitter. They with a 239 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: different route. I was like, I thought I thought it 240 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: was a done deal. 241 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: You found out from Twitter. 242 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Lakers changed that, you know, changed their mind. 243 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 5: Is that normally how that works? 244 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: Like youtimes? You know you can't you know, thank so. 245 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: You and Cabo and like, so what happens? How do 246 00:10:59,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: you feel? 247 00:10:59,760 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: What? 248 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: Who do you call? Like what? 249 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: What's crazy? You don't call nobody. You just basically, like, 250 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: you know, figure out your next move, you know, because 251 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: just because some probably could be a thought or word 252 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: agreement don't necessarily mean you know, it's it's setting stone, 253 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: you know. So they chose to go a different direction, 254 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: and that's that's when I went to Chicago. So, but 255 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: before Chicago, it was a good chance I was gonna 256 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: be a leged. 257 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 4: I always wonder how did that make players feel when 258 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: they look on Twitter and see that they've just been 259 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: shipped somewhere, because it's almost like you're not even humans, Yeah, 260 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: just a sproduct. 261 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: And that's another thing I talked to a lot of 262 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: guys about that. It's a lot of players in our 263 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: league that that that kills they confidence, They don't understand it, 264 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: and it puts them in aspiring like downhill like emotion 265 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: that they can't get out of. And a lot of 266 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: times you will see a lot of these guys that 267 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: you know, they they they good players, and that one 268 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: our school hit, they never the same because a lot 269 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: of a lot of guys can't bounce back from it 270 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: from a mental aspect, expectations set on them. They feel 271 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: like they didn't reach it. Now they feel less than 272 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: they they they It's a lot that goes into it 273 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: that gets overlooked. You know, I understand that it's a business, 274 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: but a lot of times guys feel a certain type 275 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: of way when that do happen, and a lot of 276 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: times it's hard to bounce back from it. 277 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: That's why I never get mad at players when they 278 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: make their own decisions exactly, and people are always mad 279 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: at them. And you know, you see people giving Lebron 280 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: flack all the time for doing what he does. But 281 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: how could you be mad at him when on the 282 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: other side, I want to do the same thing. 283 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, do the same thing. That's the tough part where, 284 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: you know, I always tell guys my whole career, I 285 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: always tell guys, man, you make the best decision for you, 286 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's been times I play 287 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: with guys like, I know, if you come back like 288 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: we could be we could, we could even be better 289 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: next year. But you got to make the best decision 290 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: for you. I always tell guys do that. 291 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: So what made you choose to play for the Kings? 292 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: Be honest. The opportunity to compete the win was there. 293 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: On the other side of it, obviously, the financial part 294 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: to be still be able to, you know, feel like 295 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: you want to still receive what you work, you know 296 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: what I mean. 297 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: Like, let me look that contract up. 298 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: He's like a bird over there, a bird pull it overt. 299 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Let me see, I know he got this is sixteen 300 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: year in the. 301 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: League too, sixteen Yeah, what's the contract? 302 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: Shall I mean? 303 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: Hold on three year deal? 304 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 4: Work up to seventy six point seven million, including three 305 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: million and unlikely bonuses. 306 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Congratulations appreciates you affreciate it. 307 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 5: You see yourself going like twenty. 308 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Mentally or physically both both. 309 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 5: I would answer physically first. 310 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: And then do it physically for sure, you know, I 311 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: definitely could do it. I take care of myself. I 312 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: don't do nothing. I don't go out, don't drink. I 313 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: just either be my kids. I'll be chilling like I 314 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: don't do nothing. So physically for sure, Mentally that's the 315 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: tough part because you know, kids getting older, you know, 316 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: missing so much stuff from the kids that that becomes 317 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: more of a priority, more so than anything, like you know, 318 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: I hate you know, my daughter asked me if I'm 319 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: gonna be at a dance they having them, I'm on 320 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: the road. I can't make it, you know what I mean. 321 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: That'd be the tough part. So, you know, seeing them 322 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: get older and missing a lot of stuff, that makes 323 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: it harder on me to, you know, say, let me 324 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: go for twenty. 325 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: Why did you you know, leave the spurs? Because you know, 326 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: Greg Papa vis he writes the Ford in your book, 327 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: I saw you. I forgot what I saw you telling 328 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: the story about how I think it was after your 329 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: father passed, he came to see me with y'all just 330 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: kicked it for. 331 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: Like some hours. 332 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like like why I leave that type of environment? 333 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy, Like Pop's such a real dude, 334 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: because even in that point, like he just wanted me 335 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: to be able to go somewhere to win and kind 336 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: of you know, because the team was going a different route. 337 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: It was kind of going younger. And you know, he 338 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: just told me my last year in San Antonio, wherever 339 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: you choose to go, I'm gonna make sure it happens, 340 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: you know. And like that's why I speak so highly 341 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: at Papa, even like you know, Pop text me last night, 342 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: like just randomly, like you know, like the most Pop 343 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: of this message you could always get. You know, I 344 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: love him, Pop text me, But Pop, you know, he 345 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: was the one that come to me saying, like, you know, 346 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: go somewhere where you could go be happy and be 347 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: yourself because we going a different route here with the team. 348 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: You know, so Papa will. 349 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: Do for that will makes them such a special coach. 350 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: It's not about basketball, you know, It's been I always 351 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: tell a lot of guys around the League, like you 352 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: think it's basketball, but it's been so many days when Pop, 353 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: we will come in, we think we're about to watch 354 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: film on the game previously or something, and he'll sit 355 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: us down and we'll watch a whole show about penguins, right, 356 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: and you will be lost in a moment, but you 357 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: also will watching and realize why he have us watching it, 358 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: because how penguins come together and sacrifice during certain seasons, 359 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: of how the males come together take care of the 360 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: eggs while the female go out and hunt for six months. 361 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: It's like a deeper meaning that he puts you in 362 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: front of to show you, like humidity from a a 363 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: different level, you know what I mean. And maybe times 364 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: where you lose two games in a row, everybody mad 365 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: complaining and he'll come in and show clips from a 366 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,479 Speaker 3: third world country of kids training at fourteen years old 367 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: playing to be in an army, and you know he 368 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: actually he'll tell you act yourself, like what is it 369 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: really to complain about? You get paid millions, like you 370 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: get to do what you want to do. It's people 371 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: out there suffering from real things, you know. So he 372 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: put a lot of stuff in perspective, and he know 373 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: how to get the most out of his players more 374 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: than anything. 375 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: When you all watch the Penguin Doctor, it's so that 376 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: they have same sex behavior because a lot of times 377 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: they say same sex behavior in penguins has been deserved 378 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: in zews. 379 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: But it's not clear if it's common in the wild. 380 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: Nah. No, I ain't get that. I ain't get that. 381 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: So let me ask you about that. 382 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: That's true, But that's true, they'll look it up. 383 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: Lem Okay, Now let me ask you about your pops. 384 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: You said you said, I knew my dad loved me, 385 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: and he was larger than life to me. But he 386 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: was the only person that you were scared of. Oh 387 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: my god, And I know for my fact, and that's 388 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: say for me growing up. I'm sure I said I 389 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: was scared of my dad growing up to I'm sure 390 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: you give me too, Like my dad used to say 391 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: that word too in the nineties. But how would you 392 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: as as a parent. Are you the same way with 393 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: your kids? 394 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: Uh? No, because the fear he put in me. I 395 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 3: always tell myself, I didn't want to be like that 396 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: to my kids. 397 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: But it kept you straight, but it kept me straight. 398 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: But I also grew up in the streets. My kids don't. 399 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: That's true, know nothing about the streets. So I approached 400 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 3: them more so with love and patience and more of 401 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: an understanding when before, like you know, my my parents 402 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: parent me in a sense of survival. It was always 403 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: it was always a thing my mom always usually told me, 404 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: when you walk out that door, make sure I don't 405 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: care what you do, you walk back in this house, 406 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: but every time you come back in. So with that, 407 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: it gave me a survival instinct. I understand, like, no 408 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: matter what I gotta, I gotta make sure I make 409 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: it back to the house. You know what I mean. 410 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: Because it was tough. 411 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: So you know, my kids, but did you realize that 412 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: because you know, as a kid, you think your dad's 413 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: is being hard on you, and you like, I hate him. 414 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: But then when you started getting a little older, you 415 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: start having kids, you understand. 416 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you understand so much. Even to this day, 417 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: to this to this moment, I still have moments where 418 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: I fully understand. While my parents did a lot of 419 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: stuff that they did, you know, And but you know, 420 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: when it comes to like that tough love, I don't 421 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: think it's necessarily necessary, like it's like it was with 422 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: my dad For me, especially growing up and confident. 423 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: You know what it's dressing. 424 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 4: I saw you say in the book that you were 425 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: afraid to have a son of your own because you 426 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: didn't feel that you could deliver the same brand of 427 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: tough love that he did. 428 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: And two things that I learned in therapy. 429 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 4: Number one, I felt like my dad used to discipline 430 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: me for things he never taught me. But also my 431 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: dad was raising me out of fear and not love exactly. 432 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: And I think what we call tough love is actually 433 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: fear because he was afraid because you was in the streets, 434 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: Like when I was in the street. 435 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: My dad didn' not want me to make the same 436 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: mistakes that he made exactly. 437 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, even now, even me now having a son like 438 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: my son is like, you know, I got four girls 439 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: and one son, and you know, having my son like 440 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: he having that, you know, especially with my son, I 441 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: think about my father more so than anything. But like 442 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: with him he brings like I give him the joy 443 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: and the love that he deserved like I do my daughters. 444 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because when I was a kid, 445 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: I always wanted that for my dad. I always wanted 446 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: to approval for my dad. I always wanted to make 447 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: sure I made him happy. But that was a tough 448 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 3: love he was giving me. That made me question at 449 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: that time. So, you know, with my son, like, I 450 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: definitely didn't want to come off that way, you know 451 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: what I mean, I didn't want to give him that 452 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: tough love. It may be times where it's needed, but 453 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: for the most part, you know, my son is my dog. 454 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 3: A loans with my daughters. But you know, having a 455 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: son now it makes me think about my dad more 456 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: than anything. 457 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Now, is it true that you said Jordan on the 458 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: win it is your favorite, Michael Jordan, but. 459 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: You don't do drugs more more so, you gotta explain 460 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: that way, more so from the standpoint of like how 461 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: simple he made the game as such a it was 462 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: thirty eight, thirty nine, forty. 463 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Still, but that was your favorite, Jordan. 464 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: It was my favorite, but it was more so the 465 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: one that I could I remember watching the most, you 466 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I'm thirty five when you know 467 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: I was what twelve thirteen when when when Mike was 468 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 3: with the Wizards, So it was more me understanding and 469 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: like watching. 470 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: And you fell in love with that, Jordan. 471 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: No, I love Jordan, but I'm more so fell in 472 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: love with that Jordan with the style of playoff hot playing. 473 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: Now you know what I mean. 474 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 5: Obviously you don't agree, huh No, I. 475 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: Mean, I mean I get what he's saying, but that 476 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: twenty three. 477 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: On the Bulls three, it's definitely something that what's your 478 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: favorite Bron? My favorite Bron? That's a good question. I 479 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: mean second Cleveland Stint Lebron probably my my favorite Bron 480 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: because that's Lebron. We couldn't get passed when we was 481 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. He was he was. He was unstoppable, unstoppable. 482 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: And you had a relationship with Kobe too, Yeah, Kobe was. 483 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: I had a relationship with cob ever since I was 484 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 3: probably fifteen fifteen, sixteen years old. 485 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: Just growing up in Compton, Like. 486 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, growing up in Compton, and I always used to 487 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: go to his camps. Then obviously when I was in 488 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: high school, being a ty reigned ranking high school player, 489 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: he used to have these late night runs where we 490 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: would go up there and play, and you know, he 491 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: used to hand pick who, you know, who he fell 492 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: in love with as players, and I was one of 493 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: one of one of those ones. And by the time 494 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: I was a senior in high school, you know, he 495 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: would give me his shoes. I wore shoes his Kobe's all, 496 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: I think my senior year in high school a lot 497 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: of times. And when I went to college, he used 498 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: to give me a lot of his shoes. So we 499 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: always had a relationship ever since I was young. 500 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: For sure, where do you rank them? 501 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: Like? 502 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Where do you have? 503 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: We just finished on my goat. I'm beyondest I tell 504 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: you about. Cobe is my goat for many a reasons. 505 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: You know, that was the first person like I watched, 506 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: like grown up in LA. That's the only NBA game 507 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 3: I used to watch Lakers, So I watched every single 508 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: game of his ship. I cried when he shot the 509 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: air balls versus Utah in the playoffs as a kid, 510 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: So I always had an emotional attachment to him growing 511 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: up watching him play and obviously him being my mentor 512 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: by the time you know, I got in high school 513 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: and throughout throughout my time in the league. 514 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 4: Did the NBA provide proper grief counseling after Kobe passed 515 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: being even if you didn't have a personal relationship with Kobe, 516 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: he influenced so many people and inspired so many people. 517 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: Did they did they handle that correctly? Because I was 518 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: in the bubble too around that time. 519 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: Right, what is that the bubble? Yeah? That was that 520 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: same year, right, yeah, because that happened, yeah that yeah, 521 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: just that happened that year. Then the league stopped in 522 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: that summer, we went to the bubble. Yeah. No, you 523 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: know what Scrater, I think during that time as players, 524 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: we we kind of embraced each other deeper than than anything, 525 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: because you start to look at the person next to you, like, man, 526 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: damn if this could happen a cold, this could happen 527 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: to anybody, and it kind of hit us all hard, 528 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: man like, like I remember the night, I mean the 529 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: day it happened. I remember we had a game and 530 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people across the league started, you know, 531 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: basically text and talk before the game is like should 532 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 3: we even play? A lot of people is contemplating on 533 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: not even playing because just out of respect for Cob 534 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: and everything. But we end up, you know, everybody ended 535 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: up holding the ball. I think we held the ball 536 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: for twenty four second shot clock. You know, just try 537 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: to you know, pay pay respect to him. But you know, 538 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: we all bridge together as players more more so than anything. 539 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: I was playing against him because that was your idol. 540 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: That was your goal. Y'all played with ten games in 541 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: the league against each other total. 542 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, more than that, because probably more than that. 543 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: I think for me it was it was cool because 544 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: you know, I was even able to be a part 545 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: of his last All Star game in Toronto, you know, 546 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: to honor him even that season. I think we honor 547 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: him when he came to Toronto. I gave him some 548 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: special shoes, special made Kobe shoes. It was. It was 549 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: amazing being able to play against your idol, somebody you 550 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: looked up to, and knowing how crazy he was on 551 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: the court, you know, and and the order that he 552 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: carried it is almost similar to the stories I heard 553 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: about Mike, you know. And to see that in cold 554 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: whenever he stepped out there on the court and the 555 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: things he was able to do was it was beyond incredible. 556 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: And now you also played on Master P's AAU here. 557 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: How I was playing for P. 558 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: P was P was like man, that's like that's family 559 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: man like like P like beyond family man. P took 560 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: me in like like a son, honest, be honest with you, 561 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: like Monday through Friday, I'll be in I'll be in 562 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: Compton Friday night to Sunday, I'm at Pea House with Romeo, 563 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: you know room. You know, even the other day my 564 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: book signed in La room came through and you know, 565 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: show respect, you know, that's that's one of my close 566 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: friends since since it was fourteen fifteen years old. But 567 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: you know, he took me in. You know, I was 568 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: like I was like a son to him early on 569 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: for sure. So it was dope to be around that. 570 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: Whole Or how good was little Romeo playing ball? How 571 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: good was people? Because I'm sure y'all played. 572 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we played a lot. He was good. But he 573 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: was even better at talking smack like he used to 574 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: talking the whole game talking. Yeah, he used to talk 575 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: trash all day long. 576 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: He gives me the old man, back you down, like. 577 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, hit you with the elbow, like that's that's Pete, Pete, 578 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: like old school dirty. But he going if he hit 579 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: two shots in row, you ain't gonna hear the last 580 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: off it. And rome was nice, you know obviously you 581 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 3: don't looking back at it. And we even had this 582 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: conversation him being the child star he was, it was 583 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: hard for him to focus on, you know, just one thing, 584 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: but for him to even make it you know, the 585 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: college says a lot with the amount of stuff that 586 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: he was dealing with going through being a star, doing 587 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: TV shows, doing music and everything, so it was just 588 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: difficult for him to focus on one thing, but he 589 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: had it. 590 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 4: I think for the wall, I love the title of 591 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: your book. Right now we're talking to the margor rolls 592 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: and above the noise my story and chasing calm. I 593 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 4: think we all know what noise sounds like, right, What 594 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 4: does calm sound like? 595 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: Because one thing. 596 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: You said earlier that that that hit me because I 597 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: understand that feeling is when you feel peace, and you're 598 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 4: a person that's used to dealing with anxiety about the depression. 599 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: It scared you a little bit. 600 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: Man. I think I said this the other day. It's 601 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, that eery feeling you get 602 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: when you're in the middle of somewhere and it's just 603 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: too quiet, like you ain't for something go wrong, like 604 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: you just waiting, Like it makes your nerves kind of 605 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: even worse in that moment because you you you kind 606 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: of on ten from there. So that was even a 607 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: challenge for me, Like, and I used to try to 608 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 3: figure out ways on really how to like accept it 609 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: and indulge in it, so I start, you know, it 610 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: got to a point to where I started going to 611 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: like Montana, Wyoming, going to these random places where it's 612 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: just completely natural sound and just like getting lost in 613 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: it and understanding it's okay to be within peace, it's 614 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: okay to kind of decompress away from everything else that's 615 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: going on, because it's the true way to find the 616 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: center yourself and kind of really think clearly for a 617 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: second and not question it, medita or I mean, I'm big, 618 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: Like I remember I went to Montana. I got on 619 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: the river. I wouldn't loan the river for about seven 620 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: eight hours, no phone, no nothing, and just you know, 621 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: looked at the mountains and just wouldn't loan the river, 622 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: and you you know, it kind of put your thoughts 623 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: in perspective with everything I've been. Yeah, no, nothing. 624 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: But that's the thing that's amazing. 625 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: But that's the thing. We get so caught up in 626 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: our phone. Like i'ma be honest too, Sometimes I get 627 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: lost in my phone and I get mad through my phone, 628 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: like damn, I don't need this, you know what I mean. 629 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: Let me kind of like like decompress from all this 630 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 3: and kind of just find myself because it's so easy 631 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: to get lost in everything else. 632 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 6: So now you have like resources though where you can 633 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 6: get up and go to like Montana and all that stuff. 634 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 6: When you talk to younger players about finding peace, just 635 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 6: because they might not have the same environments, how do 636 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 6: you explain to them how they can find little pieces 637 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 6: of piece Like you said you had your grandmother who 638 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 6: was peace to you, Like, how do you talk to 639 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 6: them or talk them through that. 640 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: I think you really got to find what you what 641 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: you love, and sometimes you can't be scared to try 642 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: something new either, you know, whatever that may be, because 643 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: it's different for everybody. And one thing I always try 644 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: to tell people be open minded to things you may 645 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: be comfortable uncomfortable with, because that could be the thing 646 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: that changes. Because it's a lot of stuff. I never 647 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: in my life thought i'd do it. I never thought 648 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: I'd be somebody from Comptant be in the middle of 649 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: Montana like. I never thought that. But I was open 650 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 3: to the idea of doing it and trying it, and 651 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: it was one of the most amazing things I did. 652 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: And even in that moment when I did it, I 653 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: remember I took like six seven of my cousins from 654 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: from Compton. I took him there. I remember they was 655 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: mad as shit at me because you know, I didn't 656 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: tell them what he was going. 657 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: They thought was going somewhere. 658 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: They thinking like we about to go turn up, we 659 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: going like and we get off the plane and we're 660 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: in the middle of Montana and they was mad. But 661 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: by the end of the Triller, it was like, Yo, 662 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: this is one of the greatest experience I ever had. 663 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: I never thought I'd be in Montanna scaling trees or 664 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: on the lake, or or fly fishing or doing all 665 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: these like I never would imagine. But it changed their perspective, 666 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, in touch with nature too. Yeah, 667 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: it give them a whole different outlook on just life 668 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: and thinking it's just being around like you know tox 669 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: type of you know energy. Sometimes it's cool, it's you know, 670 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: everything in moderation. But sometimes you really just got to 671 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: ground yourself and figure out that that come. 672 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: What is it that makes Compton so special? 673 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: Man? 674 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: Like, just think about all of the great iconic culture 675 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: shifting people who have come out of comp. 676 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's wild because I've had moments where, 677 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: you know, when I go back home and I'm leaving 678 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: out this like city and you really just sit and realize, like, man, 679 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: this this small city the births some of the greatest 680 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: individuals that ever touched the world, you know what I mean. 681 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: And it gives me the chills a lot of times 682 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: when I think about it, because you know, it makes 683 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: me even feel even more proud of even being from there, 684 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: because it don't happen by accident the same, you know 685 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 3: what I mean. It's something about this place, that that shape, 686 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: that have so much to offer, that that you that 687 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: you see, you know what I mean, And it's it's 688 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: it's I'm just honored to be a part of it. 689 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: Be honest with you. It's hard to pinpoint what what is? 690 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: What is it? But it's it's something amazing because we 691 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: got some grapes to come out of there. 692 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: Now, you played in Toronto for years, but then Kendricks 693 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: from Compton, Drake is from Toronto. That's your guy. How 694 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: do you how do you choose what you're gonna get 695 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: into and what you're not gonna get into at that point. 696 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. It's like love them both family, 697 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 3: you know, it's but at the end of the day, 698 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: it's like I'm from Compton, like my city, where I'm from, 699 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: where I'm born, like when my family still live. It's 700 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: like that comes first before anything, you know. And I 701 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: feel like any real person will understand that, you know, 702 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: And that's just what it is like. And it's so 703 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: crazy because my second home became Toronto that that has 704 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: the one of the greatest of all time being from 705 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: there too. 706 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: So watch your mouth, watch your mouth. 707 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 5: But you're not mad about watch. 708 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: Your mouth got the super Bowl? 709 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: No, I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I understand it. Like, yeah, 710 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: we for sure love to see Wayne up there. And 711 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: my thing too is like everybody was in such an upworld. 712 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: We don't know Wayne was still gonna do it, you 713 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like we don't know. We didn't 714 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: know fifty was doing l A but we it was 715 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: such an honor and surprise to see him still do it. 716 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: He can't do that though, Kendrick, I mean, I mean 717 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 4: that part of it, I would be crazy, you think so, Yes, 718 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 4: super Bowl, Kendrick put your name in the song. I'm 719 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: glad the Rose came home. Y'all didn't deserve it, neither 720 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: you being in the video. They were acting like you man, 721 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: crossing me lines and something, even though that's your guy. 722 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: So imagine Wayne's showing up on stage with me. What 723 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: you want to say? I see dead people too, and 724 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: then walk off. That wouldn't have worked. 725 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's that's why I'm glad I'm not in 726 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 3: an entertainment because your job is definitely difficult. 727 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: Have you spoke of Drake? 728 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: No, I haven't talked to him. I haven't talked to him. 729 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: Ain't sent them a text to be like, you're good, blocked, nothing. 730 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: Good. It's just super Bowl. 731 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: First it was the Penguins. Nowadays the thing is true. Okay, 732 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 5: go ahead ahead, you see watching. 733 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: You can see the penguin thing. Is that's a thing 734 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: like people? 735 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: Right? I think listen, it's dope regardless of how everybody 736 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: look at it. I think it's dope. Go back to 737 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: the content thing to see somebody from Comptant headline the. 738 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, like again, I just had one two years ago. 739 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's la in two years from now too, so 740 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't know. I just appreciate the moment. 741 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: I would love to see Wayne, you know, I love 742 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: to see you know, cash money out there. I love 743 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 3: to see no limit out there, you know, So I 744 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: don't think too much into it when it happens, because 745 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's more of a surprise that probably 746 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: do come with it. And that's just me guessing. I don't. 747 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: I don't have no insight on anything. That's just me guessing. 748 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 4: And I like it, man, because you know, to the 749 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 4: victor goes the spoils right like it was. It was 750 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: the greatest rap feud of all time, greatest rap beef 751 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: of all time, Kendrick One. I feel like if Drake 752 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 4: would have got the better of that situation, it's no 753 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: doubt in my mind. 754 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: We don't. We're getting Drake and Wayne at the super 755 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: Bowl this February, so absolutely so. You know, that's that's 756 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: like Kendrick's ring. 757 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 4: It's not like you know sports, right, like you can 758 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 4: you play to a certain point and you play for 759 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: a championship and you win a ring. These guys just 760 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 4: sell records, sell our shoulder. What's like that that crowning moment. 761 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 4: This is like his crowning moment to me. 762 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean it's and I look at 763 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: it from a fan perspective, from from the whole thing, 764 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 3: like it was just exciting year from the standpoint of 765 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: being able to see two of the biggest rappers off 766 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: time that duke it out, you know what I mean, 767 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 3: and to see where is it at now? Like I'm 768 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 3: a fan of it, you know what I mean, Like 769 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: because I look at it like that in sports, you 770 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 3: want to see the best of the best at it, 771 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. When lose a draw, somebody 772 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: got somebody gotta lose. That's all right, but it's it's 773 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 3: it's sports. It's part of the sports competition. Get location, 774 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: who's better? For Get location, forget where you're from. It's 775 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: just pure listening. Who's a better rapper? Kendrick, Lamar Drake, 776 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: you not bother put me in this. I'm going with 777 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: both both. Both of them is my favorite. That's what 778 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm leaving that. 779 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Drick was him. 780 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: That's what coach said. 781 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: I remember something like that. 782 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did. He did say that. It's it's such 783 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 3: a It's tough because even when it comes to Kendrick, 784 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 3: for me being from content, it resonates so in debt 785 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: because every album, every verse like a pinpoint that emotion 786 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: and feeling the bar for bar like it's certain things 787 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: he say with certain streets and lingo where I know 788 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: exactly what that feeling feels like or what that meaning 789 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: means to me is if you put me in that 790 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 3: situation is Kendrick. But it's like also like I remember 791 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: when Drake was making views, I was in Toronto and 792 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: I remember hearing it and knowing exactly the vibe and 793 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: the feeling he was going for it that was going 794 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: on in the city. So that's what makes it so 795 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: tough for me. That puts me in such a like 796 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: tricky like like you know what I mean, because I 797 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: was there like for both times, Like I've been there 798 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: for so many albums of Drake and really understand where 799 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 3: it comes from and everything. You know what I mean. 800 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: So for me to be throwing in it, I want 801 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: you to break down the concert, right, the concert you 802 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: did in June team in La Right. Of course we 803 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 2: see it from the outside. We've seen the music side, 804 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: but everybody was talking about what he did for street 805 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: and local. So break that down for people that don't 806 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: understand that. 807 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: Part of it. 808 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 3: People got to understand, Like I know, it could seem 809 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: like people celebrating whatever it come to the disc or whatever, 810 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: but for us, the weeks leading up to it, the 811 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 3: conversations that has had about certain people being in the 812 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 3: same buildings that haven't been around each other, the same 813 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 3: people that's been having issues, internal issues, hoods, individual problems 814 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: with a lot of a lot of people. For everybody 815 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 3: to know that they're going to be under one building 816 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: and act accordingly, no problems, no issues. I remember when 817 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: I first got there. I remember walking in the back 818 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 3: and I see the line of every single entourage, every hood, 819 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 3: every hood. I'm talking about blue, red, blue, red, blue, red, blue, 820 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 3: like you see it, and it was no issues, no problems, 821 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: everybody talking. In that moment, thear symbolized what really was 822 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: going on that was bigger than just with the outside 823 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: people may be looking at like, oh to beef, they 824 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: don't know, like some of these dudes haven't even been 825 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: in the same building in years, and some of these 826 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 3: dudes hoods then had serious issues with this other hood. 827 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 3: So it's like we all in here? 828 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 6: Was it? 829 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: Not? One problem was in one argument going or leaving? 830 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 3: And that was the most incredible thing for me to witness. 831 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 4: How did you avoid I guess joining a gang Growing 832 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 4: up in Compton, I always wondering about. 833 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: That because you would be like the good kid in 834 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: the Magic Yeah exactly. 835 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: And I think for me, like my majority of my 836 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 3: family GAG members in a gang, associated with a gang, 837 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: and growing up in Compton, you was affiliated with a game, 838 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 3: whether you want to be not. And for me, I 839 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 3: had so many older people in my life that understood 840 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 3: and had the respect to where when they see me, 841 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 3: make sure I don't get in this situation or you know, 842 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: it's been times where a situation about to happen and 843 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 3: be like, all right, d out here, d somebody get 844 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: d out there taking take them on. Then we meet 845 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: back and you know, I hear that night a situation happened, 846 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: but they made sure I was. I was far gone 847 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: before anything happened. So I had a lot of that. 848 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to have a lot of that 849 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 3: from both sides, even with bloods and crypts, to be 850 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: able to have that type of respect and that that 851 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: that that loved to keep me away from a lot 852 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 3: of situations, even even my games in Compton, Like like 853 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 3: I remember so many games where I look in the crowd, 854 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 3: it'd be this hood that don't get along with this hood, 855 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: but they here to watch me play with no problems, 856 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 3: you know, And that used to mean so much to 857 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: me that that no issues happened. 858 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: Nobody ever found you, and nobody ever found you hard 859 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 2: ever ever. 860 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: Even still, I remember we used to have when we 861 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 3: had road games. My high school coach used to get 862 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 3: an extra two buses so we could take people to 863 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 3: our away games, and he used to make sure all 864 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 3: the game members took the bus so we wouldn't have 865 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 3: problems somewhere else. But that was always just a respect 866 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: I had growing up. 867 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 4: When you look back at your journey from Compton to 868 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 4: the NBA, what's the most valuable lesson you think you learned? 869 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: Most valuable lesson? That's a good question, man, that's a 870 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 3: hell of a question. I should have been ready for 871 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: that because I know, like you, I think for me 872 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 3: patience because growing up I always used to want everything 873 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 3: so fast, like I didn't I never consider nothing else. 874 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: And sometimes patience is what have you ready for when 875 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 3: it whatever you want to come? And that's one thing 876 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: I kind of I kind of learned because my patience, 877 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: when things came my way, I was ready for it. 878 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 3: I accepted I made the most out of it instead 879 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 3: of rushing through it. 880 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Demal de Roz in this book is 881 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: out right now above the noise, my story of chasing calm, 882 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 2: and we appreciate you for joining us. 883 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: For sure. 884 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 2: Man, my Nick's beating up on y'all. You come on, 885 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: you come in, what's up? 886 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: I wish you much success to season. I don't have 887 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: an NBA team. I like you know what I'm saying, 888 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: So you know I wish y'all much success in the Sacramento. 889 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, appreciate it absolutely. 890 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. It's the Mar de Rosa, wake 891 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.