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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast PODYA, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen houndy twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty forty five

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Speaker 3: fifty and the Kickers block Book College Football World Standard.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, he's stumble and football, the lateral turn,

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Speaker 3: the corner of the job.

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Speaker 4: Can't you believe.

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Speaker 1: The table up the field tonight?

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Speaker 2: It's not the side of the dog.

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Speaker 4: In the fight.

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Speaker 3: It's the side of the fight in the roll.

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Speaker 1: What's up the gener nation? Welcome to the Big Bets

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Speaker 1: on Campus Podcast presented by Bett MGM. This is the

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Speaker 1: College Football twenty twenty four Betting Kickoff Show, Art one.

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Speaker 1: I'm stucky and joining me today. As always, it's my

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Speaker 1: BBOC co host, Colin Wilson and also the one and

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Speaker 1: only mister Brett McMurphy. It is good to be back, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone is getting excited hearing the intro for

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Speaker 1: the first time probably in a while. The kick is blocked.

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Speaker 1: I was just watching a clip of that app State

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Speaker 1: upset today.

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Speaker 2: Brad.

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Speaker 1: Do you know do you remember where you are for

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Speaker 1: that game?

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't, but I don't. But yeah, one of the

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Speaker 4: most iconic games of all time, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: So apparently that was the first game ever on Big

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Speaker 1: ten networks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely was, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Was, and a lot of people there was like a

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Speaker 1: A lot of people in Michigan couldn't even watch it.

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Speaker 1: Fun trivia question. The person who the player who blocked

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Speaker 1: the field goal was Corey Lynch and he he actually

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Speaker 1: he has the He's the all time leader in college

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Speaker 1: football and passes defended still to this day when three

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Speaker 1: national championships, was drafted by the Bengals, played a couple

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Speaker 1: years in the NFL Iconic Game, and that just gets

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Speaker 1: my juice's flown. I cannot wait for college football to

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Speaker 1: get here. And by the way, the thing that people

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Speaker 1: forget about that game is app State kicked a field

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Speaker 1: goal to take the lead with thirty seconds left. They

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Speaker 1: they panicked because they had no timeouts, and they gave

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Speaker 1: the ball back to Michigan, who hit a bomb and

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Speaker 1: then that's that could have never happened because of clock mismanagement.

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Speaker 1: What's up Mario Christ of ball, I'm sure we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about him and Miami coming up, Colin, do you

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Speaker 1: remember where you were and what's going on? Brother? It's

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Speaker 1: good to be bad.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see brother.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was drinking getting ready for my own razorback

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Speaker 5: football game. I mean, if you think you're having tough

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Speaker 5: as a Michigan fan having to watch app State, let

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Speaker 5: me introduce you to Toledo coming to my house. So

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Speaker 5: the Citadel coming to my house. I mean, it's listen.

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Speaker 5: We have SEC Network back then, but I've been there.

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Speaker 5: Michigan fans, it's quite embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I think Michigan fans now there are a little more

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Speaker 1: you know, accepting of that bring that game up because

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Speaker 1: they are the defending national champions, of course. But before

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Speaker 1: we dive in here to our kickoff episode, Part two,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is out right now, so you can

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Speaker 1: listen to that when you're done listening to this and

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Speaker 1: the Group of five guys Mike and Mike, Mike Calvaries

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Speaker 1: and Mike. I know they'll have their Group of Five

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Speaker 1: kickoff episode next Monday with Brett as well, so make

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Speaker 1: sure you check that out. And also this is the

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Speaker 1: time that it really helps if you subscribe on Subscribe subscribe,

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Speaker 1: leave a review a Vistar review, I'll do a bunch

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Speaker 1: of aggressive giveaways so they can do some cash giveaways.

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Speaker 1: Just ramping the pod back up does really help us out,

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Speaker 1: so appreciate that. And then of course we'll have conference

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Speaker 1: specific betting previews for every conference. I'll tweet out the

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Speaker 1: exact schedule, but at the end of July through August,

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Speaker 1: will be here. Gentlemen, Before we dive into some business

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Speaker 1: at hand, but I'll start with you, how's your summer going,

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Speaker 1: any trips? What's uh? Hell's the kind of a little

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been going good. Starting to get into the

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Speaker 4: heart of the conference media days. Yes, cash or tickets.

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Speaker 4: I played another round of golf with Colin and I've

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Speaker 4: still known them against around him. Still have never lost

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Speaker 4: to Colin. And a round of golf. Also, you guys,

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Speaker 1: How many strokes win by?

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Speaker 4: I think it was four or five and I want

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Speaker 1: Well, you say you never lost as a betting show.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna start giving him strokes.

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Speaker 2: You know what, he's not going to tell you.

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Speaker 5: He's not going to tell you about how I had

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Speaker 4: Just nobody cares. Nobody cares. If you know, you run

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Speaker 4: the opening kickoff back and then you lose by four touchdowns, Okay,

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Speaker 4: nobody cares. They want the finals call, and they went

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Speaker 4: the finals. You can't. You didn't play first quarter, you

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Speaker 5: I'm a great first half wager, just like Hawaii and

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Speaker 5: Timmy Chang at Vanderbilt exactly.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, you guys don't even know I'm going to

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Speaker 4: say this, and uh it's funny. So over the summer,

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Speaker 4: and this guy says Brett and I look over and

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Speaker 4: he goes, are you Brett McMurphy, And I said yes.

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Speaker 4: He goes, you do the big bets on campus with

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Speaker 4: Stucky and Colin. I'm like, oh my god. So shout

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Speaker 4: out to David Dyer. Please email of Matte to get

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Speaker 4: I told David I would get him some gear. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: I know, you know Stucky last year you took some

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Speaker 4: the on their podcasts. Stucky's the guy that works with Brett.

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Speaker 4: So this time that it was He's like, hey, are

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Speaker 4: So we are. We are nationwide or at least for

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Speaker 1: Love to hear it. Yeah, Mitchell, give out your email address.

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Speaker 4: Sure thing.

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Speaker 6: That email address is podcasts plural podcasts at actionnetwork dot com.

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Speaker 6: Thanks David, Please be in touch anybody else that has

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Speaker 1: Colin, how's your summer go on? Any trips besides the

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Speaker 5: And our editor Pete Rudin got to go up to

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Speaker 4: If only Florida State and Clemson lead the ACC, the

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Speaker 4: ACC survives, We'll have to see where Florida State and

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Speaker 1: So we have some stability in the short term, a

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Speaker 1: Along those lines, you also have this new era of

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Speaker 1: nil and the transfer portal where teams are changing drastically

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Speaker 1: on a year to year basis. People said nil the

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Speaker 1: transportal is going to ruin colltoball on all the best

457
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Speaker 1: players are going to go to one or two teams.

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Speaker 1: That's not true, but I will say that some of

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Speaker 1: these you know, lower level, inferior group of five teams

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Speaker 1: are really going to suffer. Look at a team like

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Speaker 1: Ohio and what they lost and where they're headed. A

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Speaker 1: team like Temple. You have guys as soon as they're

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Speaker 1: they have a good year, they're gonna might not go

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Speaker 1: to Georgia, but they're gonna go to a better power

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Speaker 1: for school and get a better offer. And those teams

466
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Speaker 1: are gonna fall really fall behind. They're gonna start reaching

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Speaker 1: into D two, into JUCO more and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see these rosters potentially take a hit. If you don't

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Speaker 1: strike gold on a majority of the guys that you

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Speaker 1: bring in, it's gonna make it tough for those teams

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Speaker 1: to really compete with the upper echelan. So I think

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Speaker 1: there is going to be a wider split between the

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Speaker 1: top and the bottom with the new era of the

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Speaker 1: transfer portal and nil. But it's not going to ruin

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Speaker 1: gol football. There plenty of good players to go around.

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Speaker 1: Just go look at any school Ole Miss Lane Kiffin. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal king, he did it again this year. Colin,

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Speaker 1: any thoughts on the portal this year in general or

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Speaker 1: if you want to name a specific team or two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wrote the Old I'm sorry, I wrote the

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Speaker 5: SEC preview and this Old Miss roster is like an

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Speaker 5: All star game. It is unbelievable the talent that they

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Speaker 5: have at every single position. But I think the question

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Speaker 5: is is that going to get yourself to a championship

485
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Speaker 5: Because we've been down this path with USC and LSU

486
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Speaker 5: in previous years where they've absolutely dominated the transfer portal

487
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Speaker 5: in separate years, and you can portal your way into

488
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Speaker 5: ten wins both those teams have. Did you portal your

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Speaker 5: way into a conference championship and a playoff push? I mean, really,

490
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Speaker 5: what you should be using the portal for is to

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Speaker 5: build depth, right, That's something Colorado failed on this year.

492
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Speaker 5: They got better in their starters, but they didn't build

493
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Speaker 5: any depth whatsoever. Old Miss is going to have to

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Speaker 5: have depth because I go back to the fact that

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Speaker 5: Georgia spanked them by thirty five points and they just

496
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Speaker 5: didn't have the depth. Do you remember they were trying

497
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Speaker 5: to run outside zone with Jackson Dart and the tackles

498
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Speaker 5: were hurt. They had a tackle injury right before the

499
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Speaker 5: game and it just didn't hold up.

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Speaker 2: And the Georgia defense absolutely ate them alive.

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Speaker 5: So if Ole Miss does I mean, instead of looking

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Speaker 5: at the first string on both offensive defense, maybe we

503
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Speaker 5: should be grading Old Miss on what they have in

504
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Speaker 5: the second string on both sides of the ball. Because

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Speaker 5: we have yet to see the portal win translated into

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Speaker 5: a conference championship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also nil the schools that have a lot

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Speaker 1: of it, that have access to it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: versus teams that don't. That's going to start to make

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Speaker 1: a difference over time as well, and you'll maybe see

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Speaker 1: some programs go off and some others rise to the top.

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Speaker 1: Brett trivia question for you, Colin, you can jump into

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Speaker 1: if you want trivia. Eight teams have made a bowl

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Speaker 1: game in ten plus straight years. Georgia, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Alabama, Clemson,

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Speaker 1: Bret's beloved Oklahoma State, Folks, Ohio State, and who's the eighth.

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Speaker 4: It's Boise State. If you do not, if you do

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Speaker 4: not penalize them for a game that was canceled because

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Speaker 4: of weather and or COVID, we are.

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Speaker 1: They didn't go to a bowl in those years. That's

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Speaker 1: a technically correct I'll give you half a point. Okay, Georgia, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Alabama, Clemson,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, and Ohio State. I don't know answer Memphis,

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Speaker 1: which is very surprising. Eight team. Something more worthy with Memphis.

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Speaker 1: The reason I bring that trivia up is they inked

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Speaker 1: the largest NIL I believe, the largest NIL corporate sponsorship

525
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Speaker 1: with FedEx twenty five million, five million over five years.

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Speaker 1: That's huge, right, do you have access to that FedEx money?

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Speaker 1: Colin Nil Arkansas? How much of an impact can that

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Speaker 1: have over time? Any thoughts there?

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Speaker 2: Whoopick Sully absolute dumpster fined dumps.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how we win a game the rest

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Speaker 4: of the year, just blowing program up.

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Speaker 2: Give us a death sentence. Collins talking razorback football.

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Speaker 5: If where this was a baseball or basketball podcast, I'd

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Speaker 5: say that it's going pretty great. Arkansas is definitely behind

535
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Speaker 5: on the NIL from the football standpoint when it comes

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Speaker 5: compares to the rest of the SEC. And it's really

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Speaker 5: I mean some of the coach I've talked to, it's

538
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Speaker 5: a give and take. It's players accepting deals but not

539
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Speaker 5: getting paid. It's players getting paid and then not showing up.

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Speaker 2: For their deals.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm close to a couple of businesses

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Speaker 5: here in northwest Arkansas. They have told me certain players

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Speaker 5: that just don't show up after they've signed and got

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Speaker 5: their money. But then again, there's you know, some of

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Speaker 5: them that are promised things and they don't get them.

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Speaker 2: And it's happening all over college football.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we specifically know that the number

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Speaker 5: one wide receiver a couple of years ago went to

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Speaker 5: USC and he wasn't paid some of the things that

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Speaker 5: he was promised, at least for a while for a

551
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Speaker 5: few months. So you know, NIL is an extremely interesting aspect,

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Speaker 5: and you know, dollar amounts aren't exactly out there right now,

553
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Speaker 5: but I think there's not really any rules about whether

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Speaker 5: you get paid or what responsibilities you have once you

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Speaker 5: get paid. Are you cutting commercials, are you cutting radio spots?

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Speaker 5: Are you simply holding a sign at the front door

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Speaker 5: of the business. It's all, you know, really subjective.

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Speaker 2: And I think I.

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Speaker 5: Think the one team to watch out for is Alabama

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Speaker 5: because Alabama didn't really have any kind of NIL program,

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Speaker 5: no kind of organization, because everybody just wanted to play

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Speaker 5: for Nick Saban and Alabama's gonna have to ramp up

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Speaker 5: their NIL unless Kalen de Bor can somehow make a

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Speaker 5: national championship game again. And he's like, listen, I made

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Speaker 5: two national championships in a row.

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Speaker 2: Don't really need to lower you guys in with NIL.

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Speaker 5: But you know it's important to the teams that are

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Speaker 5: not in the upper tier, and some of them are failing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a Penn State potentially could fall behind because of that.

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Speaker 1: I think it was all of the top ten recruiting

571
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Speaker 1: class for twenty twenty five, but just in general over time,

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Speaker 1: it's like in the middle of nowhere, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think they have a huge chest as of right now.

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Speaker 1: It's something to keep an eye on. I bring up

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Speaker 1: Arkansas because we're going to talk some coaches. Twenty nine

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Speaker 1: new head coaches in FBS this year. One of them

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Speaker 1: is Sam Pittman, who wasn't against the spread Darling not

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Speaker 1: in the not so distant past, but I would say

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Speaker 1: he's definitely on the hot seat. Colin, what's he have

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Speaker 1: to do to keep his job? And as an Arkansas fan,

581
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Speaker 1: do you want him to?

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Speaker 5: They have seven games before it's a good one. From

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Speaker 5: a personal level, I've never been more happy to have

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Speaker 5: him as a head coach in representing our state.

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Speaker 2: But this is a gambling podcast.

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Speaker 5: I believe we have seven games before we get to

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Speaker 5: a bye We have a bye week before we get

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Speaker 5: to November, and I would say that's not a five

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Speaker 5: hundred record. Before that November schedule starts, you're going to

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Speaker 5: see interims. Yeah, you're gonna see interim Bobby motherfucker Petrino

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Speaker 5: as the new interim head coach for the rest of

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Speaker 5: the season. Now, you know, Pittman, I think a lot

593
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Speaker 5: of the chatter that usually you don't hear head coaches

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Speaker 5: respond to the chatter that's going on off the field.

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Speaker 5: With those losses that we had last year and how

596
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Speaker 5: bad the offense was going under Dan Enos who had

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Speaker 5: to be fired, it really took a lot out of Pittman,

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Speaker 5: and he was very open about that in his press

599
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Speaker 5: conferences about how it's affecting his players.

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Speaker 2: It's affecting him.

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Speaker 5: He talked about mental health about you know, people making

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Speaker 5: fun of his weight, people making fun of some of

603
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Speaker 5: the kids on his team for the plays.

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Speaker 2: That they had. When you lose, if you listen to.

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Speaker 5: The chatter, it's going to get to you. Now, I

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Speaker 5: think the roster is head and beyond, head and toe

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Speaker 5: above what we had last year. Defensive, the defense is better,

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Speaker 5: Taylor Green at quarterback is going to be fantastic, and

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Speaker 5: Bobby Patrino running that offense, to me, is going to

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Speaker 5: be worth three wins on the schedule alone from above

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Speaker 5: what you think that they had last year.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's an excellent situation.

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Speaker 5: It's really strange because if you just put Pittman in

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Speaker 5: a silo, you'd say this whole thing's going down. You

615
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Speaker 5: put Patrino in a silo with that offense and you

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Speaker 5: think it's going up. So it's definitely a very weird

617
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Speaker 5: situation that's going on. But if Arkansas is not at

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Speaker 5: five hundred or better by before that November by week,

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Speaker 5: it's over for Pittman.

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Speaker 2: You will have enterm Bobby Patrino.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I hope they are. We'll talk a

622
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Speaker 1: lot more about arts on the SEC for you. But

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Speaker 1: the hope there is that Petruno with his play calling

624
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Speaker 1: prowess gets the offense going and Pittman cant more focus

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line, which is especially but it really

626
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Speaker 1: fell off especially last year. They need much better pass

627
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Speaker 1: protection up front, which will be a key to their season, Brett,

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Speaker 1: any coaches that you want to mention that are clearly

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Speaker 1: on the hot seat that need results, one of them

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Speaker 1: with really tough schedule, I would assume is Billy Napier Down.

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Speaker 4: Say his name, say his name, his name. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I was in Destined for the SEC spring meetings and

635
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Speaker 4: talk to talk to Billy. I talked to Scott Strickland

636
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Speaker 4: at Florida A D. And I asked him, you know,

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Speaker 4: is is the is a win loss record? Are there

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Speaker 4: are more important things in a win loss record? Is

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Speaker 4: that the only way to judge success? And you know

640
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Speaker 4: they kind of said, you know, there are more things.

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Speaker 4: At bottom line, you got to win. And yeah, you

642
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Speaker 4: talk about his scheduled. You know, everybody, if you don't

643
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Speaker 4: know it, you should haven't memorized. Their final five games

644
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Speaker 4: is the hardest stretch like ever in the history of

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Speaker 4: college football. Georgia at Texas lsu Ole, Miss at Florida State.

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Speaker 4: All those teams are going to be top top fifteen

647
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Speaker 4: preseason and oh, by the way, they open with Miami

648
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Speaker 4: that's going to be top twenty. They've got Tennessee, They've

649
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Speaker 4: got UCF in the middle of all that, who that'll

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Speaker 4: be a huge game for the Nights. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't know how he can get the six. If

652
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Speaker 4: he should, they should give him the freaking extension because

653
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Speaker 4: with that schedule, it's really really going to be tough. Also,

654
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Speaker 4: Dave Randa did Baylor you know Colin and I you know,

655
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: saw him down in are up in Vegas at Big

656
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: twelve Medy Days, and uh, you know, I think anytime

657
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: you change your philosophy on offense or defense and do

658
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: a total one, which is what he did, and now

659
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: he's also going to be calling the defense. You know

660
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: how challenging it will that be for a head coach

661
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: with everything going on, and now you're going to be

662
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: go back to calling defensive plays. I think that's a

663
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 4: sign that you know, it's either win or where else.

664
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Speaker 2: It's like Neil Brown right right, a year.

665
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: Ago, we're sitting here, West Virginia has a four and

666
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: a half win total, They've been voted as the very

667
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 5: last team in the Big twelve poll, and he comes

668
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: out and says, I'm taking control of the offense and

669
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 5: I'm calling the plays. They win nine games and now

670
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 5: they are definitely in the race.

671
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Speaker 2: To win the Big twelve.

672
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Speaker 5: But Miranda, you know he's going to call the plays

673
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 5: on defense, and I'm not sure that's a great thing

674
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 5: for Baylor because last time you called defense as you

675
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: were at LSU, you called seven different schemes personnel. I

676
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 5: mean you were running two man fronts, three man to

677
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 5: four man. I mean it was the craziest playbook that

678
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 5: was very complex for some of these kids to grasp.

679
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: And now you're going to take a Matt Palach three three,

680
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: five and you're going to completely make it too complex.

681
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Speaker 5: And I don't know if these players anna be ready

682
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 5: for that. Randa, I think is the number one coach

683
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: on the hot seat.

684
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Speaker 1: One other one I'll throw out to you, bright curious

685
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: in your thoughts. Here a team that would that has

686
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: never made the Collegebable Playoff, that would have made plenty.

687
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number. I'm doing an XR

688
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: is now to figure out to go through and for

689
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: futures going back. I don't know how far I'm going

690
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: to go back, but Penn State. So you know, this

691
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: is a team that generally their whole season was what

692
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: two games, and they could never it could never get

693
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: over the hump. James Franklin three and seventeen. I believe

694
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: against top ten teams at Penn State, I just could

695
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: never beat Ohio State. Penn State couldn't beat the top

696
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: ten teams. They're favored to go to the College Table Playoff.

697
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Speaker 1: Really interesting. You know, Penn State's one of the most

698
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: intriguing teams in college football in my opinion this year

699
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: because Drew Hour he's gonna be He's gonna be like,

700
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be loved by NFL scouts because of his size,

701
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: of his arm, talent. Can he make the reads? Can

702
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: he progress in his second year? And I love the

703
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator higher cold to Nicky from Kansas. What can

704
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: he bring to that offense? There's still some questions on

705
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line, some defensive pieces can do They have

706
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: the receivers to really unlock the potential of that offense.

707
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: But Franklin, if he, you know, if he doesn't get

708
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: to the Collegeball Playoff this year with his team, his

709
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: seat start to get hot. I mean, how many years

710
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: are Pennce defense gonna put up with this? It was

711
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: always you know, now it's like our twelve teams. So

712
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Penn State's got to make it. If they don't like

713
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: how much more can they put up with it?

714
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Speaker 4: Stuck? Understand what you're saying, But I don't know, there's

715
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: no ways on the hot seat. I mean, he's the

716
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: last seven years, he's had five double digit win seasons,

717
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: not including the COVID year. Never had a losing season

718
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 4: at Penn State except for four and five during COVID. Yeah,

719
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: he hasn't won games against Michigan and Ohio. Say you

720
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: said three and seventeen. I didn't know he had won three,

721
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: to be honest, you know, but you know, it's kind

722
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: of like not comparing him to Harball. But Harbaugh for

723
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: a long time could not beat Ohio State, could not

724
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: get over the hump, but he still was successful and

725
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 4: then finally he broke through the wall and had some success.

726
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: So if Penn State, if Penn State goes eight and

727
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: four and doesn't get the devile digit wins, yeah, I

728
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: think there will be some increased heat. But in no

729
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 4: way would he be on the hot seat.

730
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: Now.

731
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 4: We were talking about consecutive seasons not getting to the

732
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: college football Playoff in three or four from the Big

733
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 4: Tanner getting in the college football playoff every year, maybe

734
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: that changes things, But I think he's built up enough

735
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: equity now and I understand there may be some frustrations

736
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 4: with folks in State College, but I think we're a

737
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: few years off before Franklin's seat starts warm up.

738
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 5: They gotta let cotal Nick you start calling third and

739
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 5: fourth down, third and short, fourth and short. You've got

740
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 5: to start letting your coordinator. He HiT's what you're paying

741
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 5: him for. Quit making the decisions and taking the you know,

742
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: taking it out of her.

743
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: And that's a that's a huge hire. He was incredible

744
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: with Kansas. Talked to Lance Lighte Pold and I just

745
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that I was correct on this.

746
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: But Lance did not call the plays last year, and

747
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 4: so that's going to be big for Penn State. They're

748
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: getting an incredible offensive coordinator. But yes, Stuck, I understand

749
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: why there's you know, fans are frustrated and will the

750
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: offense improve? It should, but you know we'll find out.

751
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 5: We can't leave this segment without asking Stucky about his

752
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 5: backyard for coaches hot seats because it's not the hottest.

753
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 5: But when you flirt with Texas A and M what

754
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: I mean. I think Mark Stoops made it a tremendous

755
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 5: hire on offense. We'll talk about that later, But.

756
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

757
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 5: Does he need to produce something better than a seven

758
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 5: win season to get that Texas A and imflirtation out

759
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: of there.

760
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: No, it's it's no stops can say.

761
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: Students can stay there until the end of time. He is. Yeah,

762
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: he's got the best. He does have literally the best

763
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 4: job in America. And that's not being disrespectful to him.

764
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: I think he's a great coach. What he's done there

765
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: compared with the resources he's going up against. He will

766
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: stay there forever.

767
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: There's yeaheah, there's there's not the same pressure on the

768
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: football team here. Seven wins is is fine in the sec. Yeah,

769
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's on the hot seat now. If

770
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't make the casual could potentially start to warm

771
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: up a little bit close out. Oh you mentioned Harball.

772
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. My memory

773
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: is a little murky, but do you remember that game

774
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: Michigan when they beat Rutgers in like three overtimes like

775
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: three years ago? Do you remember that game?

776
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: I remember Oti versus Rutgers.

777
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if one the three, but

778
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: it was in overtime. Michigan was really like, if they

779
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: lost that game, it was hardball potentially gone. And then

780
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: what happens from there. I don't know, crazy revision revisionist

781
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: history thought experiment, but.

782
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 5: If you look at the suspension from last year, they

783
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 5: would have been fine because they was shown more at

784
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 5: the home they were absolutely okay.

785
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: Yep.

786
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

787
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: So let's uh before we close up part one, let's uh,

788
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: we'll do coaches and then coordinators. You can go wherever

789
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: you want with this just mention a coaching higher head coach.

790
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: We'll start with that. You like eight are intrigued by

791
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: really wherever you want to go with it. I'll start.

792
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: I'll say I really like Tulane hiring John Summerl from Troy.

793
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: You know, after they lost Fritz. There's with these pro

794
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: these group of five teams, you lose a head, a

795
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: really good head coach who had a lot of success.

796
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: Then you see guys at the portal, there's you know,

797
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: you're at risk of your program just cratering, and I

798
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: think bringing in some raw can you know, keep them

799
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: at least on par with where they've been. I thought

800
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: that was a really good hire. And then Texas A

801
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: and M I love Mike Elco. He's always done more

802
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: with less. Now he has more. And you know our

803
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: thoughts on Jimbo Fisher he had to go. I think

804
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: it's an enormous upgrade. I love his staff. I think

805
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: Texas A and M has a lot of potential. With Elco,

806
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: I absolutely love both of those hires. Colin will go

807
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: to you any head coaching higers you want to talk about.

808
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: I've got a lot here, a lot of opinions here.

809
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 5: It hurts Signetti at Indiana is turning heads, making waves

810
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: with some of the things he says. But the deal

811
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: is is he's going to back it up completely. You

812
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: know that the Hoosiers they won the portal. In some

813
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 5: situations somehow they have nil money. They're wearing some kids in.

814
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: Everybody's behind Signetti here doing this. And you know, don't

815
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 5: sleep on James Madison. You know the team that he left.

816
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 5: Bob Chesney left Assumption after having two eleven win seasons.

817
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: He goes to Holy Cross turning heads last year and

818
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: some FBS games are and they produced ten and twelve

819
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 5: win seasons before Bob Chesney moved up to JMU. So

820
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 5: don't take your eyes off either of those situations.

821
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Indiana a really intriguing team this year. Signetti had

822
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: a ton of success. Hell of a coach. But it's

823
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: you see this in college of basketball too. There's a

824
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: lot of teams in college football this year that and

825
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: you see this. When a new coach comes in from

826
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: the Group of five level, they bring a lot of

827
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: guys with them from their old team. And you saw

828
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: this with JMU. I mean I think he brought what

829
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: he brought ten eleven guys from that JMU team, some

830
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: ODU guys as well. You know, kids with all conference

831
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: accolades that have experience, but how do they translate to

832
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: the next level to the Big ten? Right college basketball,

833
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: you'll see a kid who went off at Northern Colorado

834
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: all the time he Trent and sometimes he works out

835
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: like connect but sometimes, you know, more oftentimes than not,

836
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out. Trying to figure that out one

837
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: of the biggest things that I work on in the offseason. Brett,

838
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: any head coaching, how are you want to talk about.

839
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: You stole it stuck Mike Elco, You're right, everything he

840
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: said is dead on. He's going to be a calming

841
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: influence to that program. He was a defensive coordinator. You

842
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: know how he knows how the school operates. Anybody that

843
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: can go sixteen to nine at Duke is going to

844
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: be successful. And yeah, they open with Notre Dame. If

845
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: they win that game, this could be a huge year

846
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 4: in his debut for the agis yep.

847
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: And then let's get a negativity on this podcast though.

848
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: Let's I mean Tony Sanchez. Tony Sanchez is now in

849
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 5: New Mexico State. I mean, after what happened at UNLV

850
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: was just a complete disaster and you're trying to follow

851
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: up Jerry Kill and Diego Pavia Mexico State. No, thank

852
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 5: you so that. I mean, that's one of them that

853
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: just really opened up my eyes. Now, on a positive note,

854
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 5: there's no way we're getting out of this podcastsco State

855
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 5: under I agree, Yeah, there's there's no way we're leaving

856
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 5: this podcast unless we mentioned that Sean Lewis is now

857
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 5: as tech Fast at San Diego State and the overs

858
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: that everybody likes to we are back.

859
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: Baby as tech overs.

860
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I was thinking you were gonna go Contrarion,

861
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: now you're gonna go Sandy. Yeah. San Diego State at

862
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: their defense could be a mess. Uh, their punning is

863
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: going to take a big step back. Their pickoff unit

864
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: could be bad, and they're gonna go really fast on offense.

865
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Speaker 4: Stuck, and you were talking about you were talking about

866
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Speaker 4: the portal. San Diego State lost three starting offensive linemen

867
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Speaker 4: the Power four programs in the off season.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And finally we'll close out with thoughts on a coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off the beaten path here and go

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Speaker 1: to I don't know if his name is pronounced. I

871
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Speaker 1: probably shouldn't know this, but uh, if it's I think

872
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Speaker 1: it's Chronic, But I think it's true Chronic who's hired

873
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator at Navy. I am fascinated to

874
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: see this offense. They kind of went away from the

875
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: triple option. Now they're going to I love you. Everyone

876
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: that listens to this podcast knows I love service academies

877
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: and the triple option. They're going to the Delaware wing tea,

878
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: which I believe it or not, was actually originated in Maine,

879
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: but it was ran at the University of Delaware for

880
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: like fifty years. And Chronic his dad was a you know,

881
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: coach this forever and he's going to marry you know,

882
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: kind of this the way It's kind of like marrying

883
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: the spread option with the triple option. I am fascinated

884
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: to see how it goes. I know a lot about

885
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: that offense, and I'm curious to see how it all

886
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: works out. So I'm glad that I wish, like you said,

887
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: kennes Saw State was running the triple Ken went out

888
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: and took the head coaching job at San Jose State.

889
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: They're not going to run the triple need more triple options,

890
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Speaker 1: especially as these teams fall behind and talent. That is

891
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: how you equalize team triple option. But I'm really fascinated

892
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: to see how this Navy offense looks. The one thing

893
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: that I do hate for Navy just getting a little

894
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: in the weeds. But so they're going to have this

895
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: new looking offense. I think in the spring they said

896
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Speaker 1: they only installed like twenty five percent of it. These

897
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: teams they don't really show much in their in their

898
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: spring games anyway. But Navy starts out with Bucknell at

899
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: home and then Temple at home. Temple is dreadful. So

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Speaker 1: like I would from a Navy if I was a

901
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: fan of Navy, I would want them to play like

902
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: a really good opponent on their schedule early right, because

903
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: you have this element of surprise. So maybe they just

904
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Speaker 1: hold stuff back against these but it's still a service

905
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Speaker 1: kind you could lose to anybody. So I don't think

906
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Speaker 1: the schedule work in their favor with unveiling this new offense.

907
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Speaker 1: But more on Navy later. Calm any coordinator you want

908
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Speaker 1: to mention.

909
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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get negative on this podcast. Walt Bell is

910
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator for Western Michigan. Where has he ever

911
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: worked out? I think he was essentially chased out of

912
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Speaker 5: town at Florida State. I think he almost got in

913
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Speaker 5: a fist fight with a player at UMass. It didn't

914
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Speaker 5: go well in Indiana. So you're looking for points at

915
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Speaker 5: Western Michigan. I don't think we're going to get it there.

916
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Speaker 5: I still don't know.

917
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Speaker 2: How I would you.

918
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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm starting to do my macwork. I'm

919
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Speaker 1: considering Western Michigan features. I have all my notes from

920
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Speaker 1: Western Michigan, which are like five pages, and at the

921
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: end I just said, so I have them considered. But

922
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Speaker 1: I said, I no joke, I've written, but Walt Bell,

923
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: so end up I could just end up keeping me off.

924
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Speaker 1: But the Broncket is under consideration. Wal Bell is definitely

925
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: a potential hurdle that have to get over.

926
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Speaker 2: Yeah, big hurdle, six foot hurdle.

927
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Speaker 5: So I think on a positive note quietly, Ryan Gunderson

928
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 5: being the offensive coordinator at Oregon State is a great hire.

929
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Speaker 2: When he was hired as.

930
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 5: Quarterback coach at UCLA, all of a sudden, Dorian Thompson

931
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 5: Robinson completely trimmed down all his turnover worth he plays.

932
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Speaker 5: He is a great quarterback coach. I think he's a

933
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Speaker 5: good addition for Oregon State. And you know, from the

934
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 5: defensive side, de'anton Lynn is going to take a USC

935
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 5: defense that was horrific in tackling one of the worst

936
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 5: of the nation. If he gets them to mid FBS

937
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 5: seventy five, eightieth ranking, that's going to be huge for USC.

938
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 5: Just to line up correctly and tackle is going to

939
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 5: help that defense tremendously. And then you know, I'll go

940
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 5: I'll go big here. Alabama getting Kane Wollmack, I mean,

941
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 5: what a superb higher shuts down Oklahoma State last year,

942
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 5: like South Alabama is a serious problem for some teams.

943
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: He's a recruiting genius that was a great hire. And oh,

944
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Speaker 5: by the way, don't forget g Off our friend Jeff Collins,

945
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 5: he's back. He's now the defensive coordinator for Mac Brown.

946
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Speaker 5: That's one to keep an eye on.

947
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kalen de Bor, great Hire and don't sleep on him.

948
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Speaker 1: Don't just right off Alabama. All that guy does is

949
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: cover and exceed expectations. Brett. Any coordinator you want.

950
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: To mention, Yeah, I've got three of them real quick.

951
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: Colin mentioned one. They're all from the Big Ten. Fourteen

952
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: of the eighteen Big Ten teams either have a new

953
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: offensive or defensive coordinator. Obviously Alex Grinch has gone at

954
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 4: USC Lynn and Henderson replace him. Ohio State Chip Kelly,

955
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: it goes from UCLA head coach, and now he's back

956
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 4: working with Ryan Day. He coached Ryan Day when Chip

957
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: Kelly was at New Hampshire. I actually covered a game

958
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 4: when he was an offensive coordinator against drum Roll. Of course,

959
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 4: you know USF, so that would Kennea Matalola told told

960
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 4: me the other day that he wasn't surprised Kelly left UCLA.

961
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: He wants to coach. He called him a football savant. Obviously,

962
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: all the pressure in the world you're talking about James

963
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: Franklin pressure, how about Ryan Day pressure? So how will

964
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: Chip Kelly do and guys, how could you know? I

965
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: thought you guys were like football insiders. You guys know anything?

966
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: How did you miss this one? Him? Lester is the

967
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 4: new offensive coordinator at Iowa. What is going to happen

968
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 4: with the Hawkeys offense with no more Brian Farrens?

969
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to bring that up the Big Ten.

970
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: It's obviously very top heavy, as it usually is, but

971
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: there are fascinating storylines for almost every team we mentioned Indiana,

972
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: what will Signetty do with all the transfers he brought in?

973
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: And also finally not a completely oppressive schedule with the

974
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: new Big Ten. Same with Rutgers. I don't know if

975
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: they have the quarterback, but Rutgers finally doesn't have like

976
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: the fourth hardest schedule in the country where they have

977
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: a guaranteed four or five losses. And then the coordinators.

978
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: What will usc look like with a much better defensive coordinator?

979
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: What will they look like on that side of the ball?

980
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: And what will Iowa look like in the post parents era?

981
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: Will Kirk let him cook? Is it going to be

982
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: the same Iowa? But yeah, those are two teams you

983
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: look over the past few years. What is held back Iowa.

984
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: It's been their offense. Go out and make an offensive

985
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: coordinator change finally, and what has held back USC, it's

986
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: been their defense. You go out and you finally get

987
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: rid of Grinch and bring in a really good one

988
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: and Lynn. Those are two fascinating storylines, so I'm glad

989
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: you brought those up. Con any final thoughts on those.

990
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 5: I don't agree with the fact the Sunny Dykes hired

991
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: Andy Aviolis to come in to be the defensive coordinator

992
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 5: after dismissing Jogo lest we love Jogo, lest we love

993
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 5: the three three five didn't get it done last year,

994
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 5: Sonny let him go. Andy Aviols comes in, runs a

995
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 5: strict four two five. They hired him to change to

996
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 5: a four man front, and then Demonic Williams nose tackle

997
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 5: one of the best, I'd say one of the best

998
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 5: in the nation, hit the portal left TCU and he's

999
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: now at OU and Abolos is going to stick with

1000
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: the four man front. I'm not sure that they have

1001
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 5: the depth to pull that off. So that one really

1002
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 5: has me shaking or scratching my head. And then I

1003
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 5: think the hot name in the margue that nobody's talking

1004
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: about as shield would he was a two lane defensive coordinator,

1005
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 5: had some stops before that where he's extremely successful. You know,

1006
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 5: Willie Fritz thinks that he's going to be an head

1007
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 5: coach very soon and that he is an all star

1008
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 5: when it comes to defensive coordinators.

1009
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: So I would keep that in mind.

1010
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 5: And then finally, if you know, Matt Wells getting the

1011
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 5: co position at Kansas State is a great thing for

1012
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 5: Avery Johnson at quarterback, Matt Wells was responsible for Jordan

1013
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 5: Love twenty eighteen at Utah State and him busting onto

1014
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 5: the scene. And if you need any proof that Matt

1015
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 5: Wells is that good, look at Jordan Love's numbers twenty

1016
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 5: nineteen at Utah State. They were horrendous, and that Matt

1017
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 5: Willis has a lot a big track record. Last one

1018
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 5: I'll say is in your backyard. I think the hire

1019
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 5: of Bush Hampden at.

1020
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Speaker 2: Kentucky was fantastic.

1021
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 5: He did not fit at Boise. He likes a slow

1022
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 5: developing type offensive playset. He's not all about tempo. This

1023
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 5: is a perfect offense for Kentucky and what they want

1024
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 5: to do. It wasn't for Boise.

1025
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Speaker 1: Love it all right. It seems like a good place

1026
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Speaker 1: to stop and on July twelfth in the evening, someone's

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Speaker 1: UTSA steaming out a little bit against tennessall State on

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Speaker 1: July twelfth, per Week one. Love to see it all right,

1030
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Speaker 1: that'll do it for us. So good to be back.

1031
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to grind another college football season with you, gentlemen,

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