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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Wednesday, the twenty fifth

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Speaker 2: of November twenty twenty at his time, donkeys for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, it's the day before Thanksgiving. Uh you know,

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Speaker 2: and not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm from CBS Sports. I

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Speaker 2: am one half of your hosting duo. I am joined

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Speaker 2: by my partner in crime across the screen. He's the

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Speaker 2: fake to my news. I teas it teas, but he

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Speaker 2: is the conspiracy to my theory. It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, Hello, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Hello Luke. It's great to be back with you. Where

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Speaker 1: I come from, Luke in the industrial Nougatuck Valley of Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: This is a holiday known as Valley New Year, with

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Speaker 1: the tradition known around the at least the States, of

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Speaker 1: going back to your hometown, going back to a really

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Speaker 1: high school people that you can, right, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a tradition unlike any other.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, although with COVID that's been getting in the

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Speaker 1: But then we got married, Luke, then we got old.

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Speaker 1: Things happened. But one thing about us, and they show

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Speaker 1: that the great Cali once said Luke. Luke and BC

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 1: Three shows a week, great interviews. Hey, how about a doc?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Doc? You see that thing, Luke?

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Speaker 2: Don't do a bit, don't do a bit where you

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Speaker 2: texted me last night, I'll worried that no one, I'm

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Speaker 2: and play a different fucking game than the one you

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Speaker 2: were playing yesterday with me? My friend, Stay consistent, stay regular,

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Speaker 1: Look, do you think do you ever think that maybe

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Speaker 2: Then? Yeah? I think you play a game all the time.

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Speaker 2: But I also know when you're halfway serious.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Luke, I'm a big fan of yours. I

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Speaker 1: give thanks today, Luke for you and all all of

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Speaker 2: Good God, not quite exactly the right metaphor, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: to try Showtime, you certainly can Showtime dot com thirty

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Speaker 2: If nut you could pound sand merch. By the way,

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Speaker 2: See who's doing the majority of the cooking in your house?

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Speaker 1: So sure you're a renaissance man. You have your own recipe.

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Speaker 2: So yes, please go watch the doc. Reminder Friday, not

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Speaker 2: but there will be a special Q and A episode

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Speaker 2: the deep dive segment? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Something like that. It's going to be fifty dollars forty

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Speaker 1: Let's get all the things out of the way and

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Speaker 1: Well, look, not only is Tyson a small heavyweight normally,

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Speaker 2: or at least four. I think the twin sixteen was

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00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 2: about the end of his last run. Certainly a long

432
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: ass time. So it's like, I don't know what to expect, dude.

433
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: I think your general tenor and what you're picking up

434
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: on it's probably right. You're probably right that Roy will

435
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: have He'll look like the fresher, readier of the two

436
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 2: for the experience, but how it all goes by the

437
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 2: time the shit's over, Yeah, I mean, I really would

438
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 2: be very hesitant to guess.

439
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: There's a big difference between get in shape and drop

440
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: one and being able to actually go rounds. And now, look,

441
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: Ruyt's been off for two years, so who knows. But

442
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 1: while he was active, fighting relatively once a year for

443
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: the past few years when he was active, he was

444
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: going ten rounds. So you know, I have no confidence

445
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: that Mike can go rounds. But can you be careful

446
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 1: Luke referencing Shamrock Kimbo and trying to trying to make

447
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: a case that there's no fixing when Rip Kimbo much

448
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 1: of his career had the cloud of fixing over it, Luke,

449
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: much of it.

450
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just mean, I just mean, here's the thing.

451
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: If you want to suspect that or any fight or

452
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: any organization, you're allowed to. But at some point, if

453
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna make the accusation that that fight or any

454
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: fight is fixed, you need to have evidence. And just

455
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: watching two old dudes slip and slide on a mat

456
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: when they're, you know, so far past their expiration date,

457
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: I understand that it looks off putting, but that's not

458
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: actually evidence. Evidence would be something like a paper trail

459
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: or emails at show coordination or so you know, odd

460
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: betting or something, and there's really none of that.

461
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to get sued, but and I'm not

462
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 1: here to say that Shamrock and Kimbo was fixed. But

463
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: Ken Shamrock knows how to choke someone, and it looked

464
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: like he took his arm off and didn't know what

465
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: to do. And I'm just saying, when there's smoke, sometimes

466
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: there's fire. Can we just go down there.

467
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: That's just again. But again, you see, I'm not I'm

468
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: not saying that's altogether wrong, but that's a different claim

469
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 2: than saying they threw a fight. That you have to

470
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: have evidence for that claim.

471
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to remind do you remember the way

472
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: Bo Cantrell fell against Kimbo? That was a little sketchy

473
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: off of one half punch that.

474
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: Was super that was.

475
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: That was No, I'm not done with I'm actually not

476
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: done here. Seth Petrozzelli admitted afterwards that the promoters paid

477
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: him not to take the offered money to him to

478
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: not take the fight to the ground.

479
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not that, but that's not that's not a

480
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: fight being thrown.

481
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: That's okay. I'll go to my grave believing Houston Alexander

482
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: doing circles backwards the whole time against Kimbo was a

483
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: little bit off.

484
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: Okay, No, now you're going too far. You're I'm with

485
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: you on the Bocantrell and the Shamrock fight just being

486
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: hard to understand. Even when you grant that old dudes

487
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: fighting just looks like shit. I grant you that, but

488
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: at some point I say this to everybody, it's like

489
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: at some point, if you're gonna make an accusation about it,

490
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: you really should have evidence because it's that serious. And

491
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: the one time that we did have at least alleged

492
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: fixed fighting in the UFC, UFC didn't know about it,

493
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: Commission didn't know about it. It was a South Korean guy

494
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: who was I think making some I think old people

495
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: money and was trying to do it and he got

496
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: eventually found out about it. There was actually real evidence

497
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: that was produced and you couldn't tell watching it at

498
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: the time. That is a much That to me, that's

499
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: how you should make a case for something and understand

500
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: it when you're.

501
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: Looking at it. That heart attack data suffered during the

502
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: fight with Kimbo not fake.

503
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that was in fact quite I was there that night.

504
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: That was quite real. Good sir, God, dude, you know

505
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: what I gotta tell you. That was one of my

506
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: funner times. It was me and shaun El Shaddy for

507
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: mm A FI and then Esther and Casey on the uh.

508
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: You know, they went for photos and videos and dude,

509
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: Kimbo was you know, he had a weird career, but dude,

510
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: like at the end of his life there he was

511
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: a really sweet person, and he was easy to talk

512
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: to everybody, and it was I am glad I got

513
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: the opportunity to because I was, like you ere when

514
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: in the Seth Petrozzelli years, I was like, what are

515
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: we fucking doing here? But then you know, he went

516
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: through Ultimate Fighter and he tried to like earn his

517
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: way and I think the community came around to him

518
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: and then that was my last interaction with him before

519
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: he died. So I'm actually quite grateful I got the

520
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: opportunity to go and the fight was a motherfucking shit show.

521
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: I mean what he and by the way, dude, to

522
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: this day, to this day, Kimbo Slice is the most

523
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: popular fighter in Bellator history. I mean, think about that

524
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: for a second. That dude's popularity.

525
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: Dude, I don't care what you think of Gary Shaw

526
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: and Elite XC. Kimbo went on CBS and was doing

527
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: like six million peak viewers. I mean, that's just like absurd, Luke.

528
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy captured people's attention. I don't know exactly

529
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: what Tyson versus Jones is gonna do, but you see

530
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: any sense of pay per views, it's fifty bucks. It's

531
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: a little bit less than normal. You think it'll sell.

532
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Well, I've been saying this answer, which sounds like I'm

533
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: sitting on the fence. I think it's gonna do better

534
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: than you think, but not great. And what I mean

535
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: by that is, look, yes, there are a lot of

536
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: people that care about Tyson coming back that don't watch

537
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: combat sports at all. But you're just saying Tyson's gonna

538
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: fight again in a real fight. Oh, Roal Jones, y'all

539
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: really like it's not Tyson against you know, Peter McNeely.

540
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, oh my god. So I think

541
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a certain amount. Here's a couple of problems.

542
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: Kevin and I only put out a tweet yesterday that

543
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: nailed it. He says, you know, I've been covering fights

544
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty one. This is the worst promoted fight

545
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: in the history of combat sport. Look, this is a

546
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: horrifically promoted fight. I mean, it's just, you know, it's

547
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: not wrong to say that. Okay, so that has to

548
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: have sacrificed. I know they got Tyson on Good Morning America.

549
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: I know they've done a couple things. I know they

550
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: had you know, Ariol hosted that sort of remote press

551
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: or they did, but you know, there just hasn't been

552
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: media opportunities. There just hasn't been like anything. This has

553
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: been bad. But now that they have it on the

554
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: ability to mainstream pay per view, but you don't have

555
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: to find the fight app or figure out what triller

556
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: is or thriller good god, you know whatever, it's got

557
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: a chance. Now the pay per view market is dead

558
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: as we know for the most part, and dead meaning

559
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, during the prime of Manny and Floyd, you

560
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: roll out a really good fight in boxing or even YOUFC,

561
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: at that point, you can get a million buys. You know,

562
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't ridiculous. Now it's super hard unless you've got

563
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: Floyd or some kind of Connor crossover. Could it do

564
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: Luke seven eight hundred thousand and push close to a million.

565
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: It's certainly possible, But I do not think. I do

566
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: not believe that it reaches a million, and I do

567
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: not believe, even given the celebrity names, that it does

568
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: any sort of you know, may Mac or anything. You know,

569
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's it's been shitty promoted.

570
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: No, let me just say I think it's it's possible.

571
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 2: It could do five hundred thousand and if it does,

572
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: and it can go higher, certainly, but I would say,

573
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sort of eyeballing that number that ballpark,

574
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: and I think if it does, that's an unmitigated success.

575
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me you could sell the There's

576
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: only been two MMA promotions in history to sell one

577
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: hundred thousand buys for a pay per view event. Belltore

578
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: did one time, I think, and then or maybe twice

579
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: at most. And then you have a UFC which has

580
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: done a routinely. No one else has even come close.

581
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: That's how hard it is to do is extremely difficult.

582
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 2: Fans have a warped sense when they see like, oh,

583
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand buys, that's not that much. Well for

584
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: people who can really pull on pay per view, that's

585
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: not that much. But the overwhelming majority of entities, we

586
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: even have good rosters who have you know, in this

587
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: case it's bad promotion, but they have good promotion. They

588
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: just can't seem to get over that hump. So if

589
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna sell five hundred thousand for two guys that

590
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: are washed, beyond washed, granted legends, but you know, in

591
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: terms of their competitive abilities, so far past it not

592
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: even in a real fight, and your co main event

593
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: is a YouTuber, which we'll talk about just the second. Dude,

594
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how you call that anything but six

595
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: for fifty bucks, Like, I don't know how you call

596
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: that anything but a success. If it goes even higher

597
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: than that, it's an absolute grand slam. I don't think

598
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: it'll hit a million. I don't think it'll get close,

599
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: but you know, seven maybe at the high high, high

600
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: high end, eight hundred thousand. I don't think I'll do that,

601
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: but that would be that would be ridiculously successful.

602
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: This is where I think Sea Sack, California Stay Athletic

603
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: Commission has kicked this this fight in the bag and

604
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: its potential. If they didn't have any of this BS,

605
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: if there wasn't this narrative of oh, they're not going

606
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: to be allowed to fight, I think you would have

607
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: done even more obviously, along with a viable promotion which

608
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: just didn't really have leading up to it. What's interesting though,

609
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: is uh, I don't know. I don't know where I

610
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: was going there. Look, I just died in my head.

611
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's talk about the comin event because

612
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: we just brought it up here. Jake Paul, take it

613
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: on Nate Robinson Cruiserweight. It's six rounds. I watched the

614
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: Jake Paul fight against the other dude who is sort

615
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: of a rapper but only on YouTube. What's his name?

616
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't exhibit it was it was fucking yeah.

617
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: The guy, the guy, the fellow, the British guy. What

618
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: the hell is his name?

619
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

620
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know.

621
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: Ding Dong sing along, Apple Sauce McGee, I don't know

622
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: his name. Here's the point bringing into our Yeah, Jake

623
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Paul fought like shit. I mean, he didn't do a

624
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: whole lot.

625
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: And Luke, let's stop that right here. I'm not here

626
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: to like defend the Paul brothers at all.

627
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: That's exactly what you're about to do.

628
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: Can one of our trusty producers look up the name

629
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: of the guy that the Paul brother just fought. Please,

630
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: you can get this right. Look, they actually, I said this,

631
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: then I'll say it now for two clowns. They actually

632
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: respected boxing. They got real trainers, they had real training camps.

633
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: They took it seriously, Luke. It was not Barstool's you know,

634
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Appalachia Challenge. They came out there and actually tried to

635
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: jab and do things, Luke, I'm gonna say it was

636
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: technically brilliant. I was just saying it wasn't the embarrassment

637
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: to the sport that it had all the potential to be.

638
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: We got the wrong pictures playing here? What's that fight?

639
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: Who the hell did he fight? Luke? K s I

640
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: k SI? Yeah guy?

641
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: That anyway? Yes, for two guys who had basically no

642
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: boxing the experience and can marginally be called athletes. Yes,

643
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: I suppose if you would like to grade on the

644
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the biggest of curves. Sure, fine,

645
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: you know I'm not gonna sit here and say I

646
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: could do better. I certainly could not. I probably do

647
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: significantly worse. But I'm also not stupid enough to, you know,

648
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: subject myself to these kinds of forms of scrutiny given

649
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: my relative ability. Uh, what do we expect this time out?

650
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: Nate Robinson is a real athlete, uh, competed in the NBA,

651
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: looks to be in phenomenal shape. Don't know if he

652
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: can fight for shit BC. But I'm actually much more

653
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: interested in that one than I am. The main event.

654
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, I'm that's a stretch, but I get the spirit

655
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: of what you're saying. I actually kind of care about

656
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: this Nate Robinson fight. He's fighting the younger Paul brother

657
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: who has had one of these fights before he thought,

658
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: and Easton Gibb I think, on the undercard of his

659
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: brother's first card or I don't know who cares about

660
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: this point whatever, but yeah, I actually kind of care

661
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: about Look, the Paul brothers are easy to hate, right,

662
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: they do crappy stuff on YouTube. You kind of want

663
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: to see him get KOed. I got no beef with

664
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: the right Nate Robinson. Now, he didn't deserve the the

665
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: third Slam Dunk Championship that he got. I actually don't

666
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: even think he deserved the second one when he went

667
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: head to head with Igodal because he got like forty

668
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: eight chances to pull off that dunk. But that's another

669
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: topic for another story. I like him. I kind of

670
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: like this fight. It's a weird undercard. It's like Badu

671
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: Jack against some guy you never heard of, and it's

672
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: like Rashad Coolter from the damn UFC against against some

673
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: other guy, some other YouTuber Luke Vidal.

674
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: His name is Vidal Riley, sounds like a porn star,

675
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: not Joe Vidal Riley.

676
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: It's it's weird. It's a weird undercard. This is a

677
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: weird card in general. But like, look, you can't get

678
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: past this point. Tyson. For whatever he's done, he's done

679
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot of things outside the ring. He never except

680
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: for that crappy two thousand and six exhibition paid review

681
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: that was rightfully a bost against Corey Sanders, he hasn't

682
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: come back. So just that nostalgic factor alone, even with

683
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Sea Sack, kind of ruin it by what they're doing.

684
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Here's what se Sacks should be doing. Luke, Okay, if

685
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, do it. Both guys have passed

686
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: their tests and physicals. Both have undergone Vada Vada has

687
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: a reputation. This ain't Wada or you Soda or your mama.

688
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: This is like, you know, Vada. We haven't seen them really,

689
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, screw the pooca yet. So there's some safety

690
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: fit figures factors put in. Just let them friggin fight.

691
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: What are you doing, Andy Foster? We don't you know,

692
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: like just come on bro.

693
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well, I mean, you know, the fact that

694
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: they even want to do this fight drug free just

695
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: as the dumbest shit ever to me. But you know,

696
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: I live here in the real world, So what are

697
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: you gonna do?

698
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: Uh?

699
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: Okay, And then on the yeah, there's nothing else on

700
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: the premium car that anyone gives a shit about.

701
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: So at this age you're saying, I don't want you

702
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: to sit down a rabbit hole of drugs. But at

703
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: this so you're saying it's safer for them to actually

704
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: be on peds in terms of how they could absorb

705
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: the blows and recover.

706
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: What would peds have to do with how well they

707
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: could absorb blows? And which peds are we referring to here,

708
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: because there's a whole shitload of them, So.

709
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: You're saying false, You're saying my narratives false.

710
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying the idea that there would be no call

711
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: in any capacity whatsoever for them to have any kind

712
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: of pharmacological help to train to stay healthy. It's in

713
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: terms of fight readiness, is fucking ridiculous to me. But okay,

714
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: you know, well.

715
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: Look, Rashad Evans, who we both love, has told me

716
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: in the past on the now defunct CBS Sports State

717
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: of Combat podcast, He's in Mike's camp sometimes they're friendly

718
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: that Mike hooks up to this machine, Luke that like

719
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: does the workouts form it like zaps his muscles and

720
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: like totally gets them going crazy and like whips him

721
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: into shape. That's kind of a pee itself, right.

722
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: Does it? Is? That? What it is? Well, there is

723
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: something called mechanical doping right where these guys, for example,

724
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: they'll turn a bike into an e bike, but you

725
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: can't really tell because they'll engineer it in a way.

726
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: So they call that mechanical doping. So there is a

727
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: way to do that. I'm very skeptical of this claim

728
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: that it actually does what it says it does, but

729
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: to the except that he's right, Yeah, that'd be essentially

730
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: a form of it, more or less. By the way,

731
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Badou Jack is fighting a dude named Blake McKernon. Do

732
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: we know anything about this fucking guy?

733
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: He's unbeaten from Britain in some form, but I know

734
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: nothing about him. I mean, come on, he could he

735
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: could be driving the uber on the way there. I don't.

736
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that is your favorite That is your

737
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: favorite joke is are they driving on the way?

738
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: Think about it to say you'll save an expense they

739
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: gotta leave anyway. You might you know they're gonna fight.

740
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: You might as well let him drive you home too.

741
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: That's not you know, you'd be smart if you're a promoter.

742
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: Bro, you ain't lying. All right, Well, well, we'll see

743
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: how things go on Saturday. For that nine pm in

744
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: the East is when it's BC topic number two. Bob

745
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: Aaron versus Terrence Crawford. I mean, you knew it was

746
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: in bad shape kind of early on. It's in real

747
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: bad shape now. Bob Aeron doing an interview with boxing

748
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: scene and Terrence Crawford talking to my guys a can

749
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: barack over at Series XM. Terrence Crawford saying, if you

750
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: don't want me here, release me, which is okay, understandable,

751
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: But then Bob Aaron basically saying, BC, this is what

752
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: he told the audience. I'm not dealing with this fucking

753
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: guy anymore. I'm gonna wash my hands of it. My son,

754
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: I think it's his son in law, Todd to Buff

755
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna handle all the affairs with him, almost like

756
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: you know, Dan, I'll being like, I'm not touching it,

757
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: Lorenzo will handle it, and uh, I don't even know

758
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: if we're gonna do another fight. I guess we'll do

759
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: one more with him or some kind of veiled threat

760
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: about how little he isn't interested in doing anything with him,

761
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: not only personally but as a company because they do

762
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: nothing but lose money. BC. There's no way at this

763
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: point on side. I don't know when, but there's no

764
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: way Bud Crawford doesn't sign with Al Hayman.

765
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Right, No, there's no way. There's no fricking way. I mean,

766
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, there's a couple promoters that have

767
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: split up the pool at welterweight. No, welter waite is

768
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: the money division in boxing when the heavyweight division is

769
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: not active, and sometimes even when the heavyweight division has

770
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: a few names, welter waite is the money. They're all

771
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: in the PBC, every single one except for Washtamir Kanon,

772
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Wash kel Brook, who Crawford's already fought, Porter Spence, Thurman,

773
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: Pakiow was until recently. So really the only you know

774
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: that's that's just a few of them, right, They're all

775
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: with the PBC. The only guy they could make a

776
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: fight with anymore is Pakiow, who is a free agent.

777
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: But I don't know what the heck next year is

778
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna look like for Crawford. So aerm was is really

779
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: extra mad Luke because he feels like when Crawford went

780
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: on the Achenbrock Show, mixed with some other interviews that

781
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: Crawford's trainer and co manager Brian Bowmack McIntyre did, he

782
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: felt that the Crawford team did a dirty move. They

783
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: brought the contract details to the surface to try to

784
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: sort of like double cross top rank and like put

785
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: him in a bad spot where they would where they

786
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: could get leverage from it. And this is Bob just

787
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: blowing up the bridge and being like, you know what, Mfer,

788
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: I've lost money on all your big fights and I'm

789
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: done doing it. So it's a certain rough ending to

790
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: this marriage in which they've paid Bud handsomely to keep

791
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: him loyal even though they could not come through what

792
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: they promised. The real thing is that, apparently, look in

793
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: the contract, Bob was supposed to pay Crawford one million

794
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: dollars if he could not come up with an offer

795
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: for the Spence fight for this year. They didn't want

796
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: that to go public, and it did. So Bob's pissed

797
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: next year if he has one fight left on his deal,

798
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: as they claim, with the deal running through October of

799
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: next year, do you think Luke, based on these comments

800
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: from Bob, that they try to do the Pacquiao fight,

801
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: or that they just basically be like, we don't care,

802
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: We'll put you in against anybody, put it on ESPN,

803
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: try to you know, not lose money and just be

804
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: done with you. Because this is like one of the

805
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: weirdest endings of a relationship with a guy who might

806
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: be your pound for pound king depending on how you vote,

807
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: and is one of the best fighters of this era.

808
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: I can't tell. Do you want to do a fight

809
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: against a big name if you can make it, because

810
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: that's your best chance to not lose money, But that

811
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: would also require you to promote it. That would require

812
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: you to get out there and sell it. It would

813
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: require you, even with a good opponent, you know, with

814
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: big attractions come big work behind it to maximize what

815
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: those attractions can offer. Does Bob really want to do that?

816
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: I sincerely doubt it. On the other hand, would would

817
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: Crawford just take any old opponent just to get done

818
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: with it and then he's unhappy? Would he take a

819
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: purse cut in order to do that? I don't know

820
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: that I see that either, Just so they can sort

821
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: of find a way to fumble through the end of

822
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: this deal.

823
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean by there should be a buyout.

824
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: Yes, the buying out one. We know that from Floyd.

825
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: That's at least it seems like it's a real option.

826
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: It seems like I mean, this is my point BC

827
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: to your this. This is why the buying out is

828
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: the only option. It's broken and it's not going to

829
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: be and there's no real way to go forward with

830
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: like a workable solution. Nothing is workable at this point

831
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 2: because the reason why it's broken is what Crawford wants

832
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: from the deal and what Bob want from the deal

833
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: both are uniquely unable to deliver. It can't work, So

834
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: why bother trying.

835
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob wants loyalty to be able to promote him

836
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: in the future, and Crawford don't want that because of

837
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: what happened. And Crawford wants big names, Bob can't get them.

838
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. They're not Bob will not make

839
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: the Pacchio fight. If all the Pacchio fight will do

840
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: is make Crawford a star and get them ready to

841
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: fight Spence on PBC, Crawford's not gonna stay loyal after this, Luke,

842
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, it's run its course.

843
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Why would he when it's so difficult to make these

844
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: two network fights on pay per view unless both guys

845
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: are massive stars. And I'm sorry, Crawford's great, he's not

846
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: a massive star, and you know, really, to be honest,

847
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: even though Spence next week is headlining his third consecutive

848
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: pay per view, he's not yet a real massive crossover star.

849
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: So it's gonna end, Luke, and this is weird. This

850
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: is weird, but look, boxing fans in reality, Luke, and

851
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: this is where MMA fans rightfully get mad going. You know,

852
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch boxing, MKA because you're making it

853
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: sound good. You know, all we talk about is this

854
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: guy can't fight this guy and this guy said this.

855
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: That shouldn't be the story, but that is in boxing

856
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: because of the politics and the reality. So this really

857
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: you know this, if this speeds up getting butt into

858
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: big fights, then that's positive for the fans. Let's get there.

859
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Let's just get there already.

860
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: Topic number three BC. It's actually a pretty busy week

861
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: all things considered. So there is the Jones and Tyson

862
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: sort of exhibition about on Saturday. UFC keeps the train

863
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: on the tracks. My friend, You've got Curtis Blades and

864
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: Derek Lewis at a main event at UFC Vegas fifteen

865
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: at the Apex Facility. Blades your prohibitive favorite at this point, BC,

866
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: coming in off that sort of semi lackluster but really

867
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: important win over Volkov. But he's won four straight, so

868
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: the Volkov Santos samil abduraky Mov and then Justin Willis fight.

869
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: The last one he lost was a rematch to Francis

870
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: and Ghanis, who's only got those two laws. His only

871
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: losses are to Francis twice. That's it. If he beats

872
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: Derek Lewis, that'll be five in a row. But I

873
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: don't really know what you do with it, BC, because

874
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: Francis still has him got a title shot. You spoke

875
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: to Francis this week. That guy is frustrated that he

876
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: can't move the chains in his career because he's waiting

877
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: on everybody else. If that guy is that frustrated, and granted,

878
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: he's frustrated not just because he's waiting, but because he's

879
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: also at this really important, you know, potential pinnacle moment

880
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: in his career. I mean, Blade, I don't know where

881
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: Blades is exactly sitting in this division, BC, how do

882
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: you size up Not so much the fight we'll get

883
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: to in the second. But let's say Blades wins five

884
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: wins in a row. That's about I mean, that's all

885
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: you need for a title shot, and I don't know

886
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: it gets him all that close.

887
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: Right, especially because if John Jones moves up, which he

888
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: gave up his title to move up, it's a crowded

889
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: picture at the moment. It's it's a it's an s show.

890
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: So regardless of you know, if if you watch that

891
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: interview I did with Nghanu and some people, you know,

892
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: response was negative and talking about different things. But he's right.

893
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: A title and a division shouldn't be defended once per year.

894
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: That's what what we've been under under Steve Pay's reign

895
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: most recently. This is interesting because Luke UFC doesn't seem

896
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: to like Blades right now, specifically Dana White. Do you

897
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: remember before his last fight when he came on the

898
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: now defunct CBS State of Combat podcast with me and

899
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: was like ripping the UFC and their lack of pay

900
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. It was during the height of

901
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: the every every famous Fighter is going to retire and

902
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: talk about pay cuts, and Dana ripped him. Then he

903
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: went out and had that somewhat lackluster but thorough win

904
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: against who the white guy the damn Russian right full cough.

905
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: Right, yes, right, we have breaking news.

906
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: Go ahead, thank you, thank you. So you know, he

907
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: was kind of ready for a title shot, but not

908
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: only is the division not allowing it, I don't think

909
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: UFC wants to reward him for his actions. So now

910
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: he's got to face Derek Lewis. You kind of is

911
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: it wrong to think UFC wants Derek Lewis to win here,

912
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: because you know, Blades gets a win, he's still probably

913
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: third in line for the title shot.

914
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: Luke, yes, because then it clears up. It doesn't clear

915
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: up the log jam. You still have a logjam at

916
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: the top, but you don't meaningfully exacerbate it, right, You

917
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: don't add yet another piece to the back of that pile.

918
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: It just sort of stays what it is. You don't

919
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: get any worse there. Plus, people love Derek Lewis. Honestly,

920
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: if Derek Lewis wins that you might be able to

921
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: say that's Derek Lewis's best win and that's a little

922
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: bit debatable. But you know, I take Blades very seriously.

923
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: He's not turned himself into a commodity of a box

924
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: office attraction. But you look at who he's beat, you

925
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: look at his skill set and what he offers. Dude,

926
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: he is a force to be reckoned with. So while

927
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: he may have fallen short against Francis, Okay, lots of

928
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: guys fall short against Francis, he's beating everybody else. So

929
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: if Derek Lewis could be the other guy that he

930
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: couldn't get past, you know, it'd be a great win

931
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: for Dar. It would clear up things for them. It

932
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: would add not to Derek's resume, but I think his

933
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: legend a little bit because you know, Derek's not gonna

934
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: win this out wrestling him, right. I think we know

935
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: that if he wins, he's gonna win one way. It's

936
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: gonna be one of these you know. So, but it

937
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: is hard to absolutely beast down.

938
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep the black Beast down, right. I mean,

939
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Cormier was able to do it, but this could be

940
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: an interesting fight. I want to ask you one specific

941
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: thing that's related to this about the Anganu interview, and

942
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: get your thoughts Luke Key. I don't know if he

943
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: revealed this for the first time or if no one

944
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: just talked about it. He said before the Rosenstrouke fight,

945
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: which was UFC two forty nine and May, the first

946
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: fight after the start of the pandemic, that he came

947
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: to UFC and said, you know, I'm only taking this

948
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: fight because you won't give me a title shot? Will

949
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: you put the interim title at stake? Because you're telling

950
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: me I have to wait through the trilogy of Stepe

951
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: and d say. They said no to him, Luke, and

952
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: then later in the build to that fight, they brought

953
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: in Justin Gaetgee last minute and dropped an interim title

954
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: on top of that fight. What Francis is saying is

955
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: wait was no different than have youweight. They screwed me

956
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: and now they're telling me I have to wait till

957
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: March for Steepey. Does he have a point here?

958
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: Yes. I actually had Francis on my radio show right

959
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: after that and he was very clear. He goes, I'm

960
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: not mad at Justin Gaechee for getting an interim title shot,

961
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: and in no way am I upset. He did everything

962
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: he needed to do and the division was in whatever

963
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: state it was in where that made sense. He won

964
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: that fight against Tony ferguson Farren Square, God bless him.

965
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: What he said was, if he's going to get these

966
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: kinds of opportunities at a time when the division is

967
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: like this, why can't I? And I frankly think that

968
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: that is totally on point. A Francis would have gotten

969
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: more money for that win. I think, I think that's

970
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: where I would have gotten more money. But certainly it

971
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: means he would he would get more money for his

972
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: next bout, which would have been a title unification or

973
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: at least some defensive mineral room belt. So you're just

974
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: talking here. Here's the way it works. If you're going

975
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: in there without a title and you're fighting for the title,

976
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: I think you go in there with a flat field

977
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: or your money would go up by virtue of the

978
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: play and then the stakes. But if you want it,

979
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: you would take that interim belt into your next contest

980
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: and then you would be eligible for pay per viewpoints,

981
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: which is really where the big the big money can

982
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: be made, such as it exists for UFC fighters. So

983
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: we cheated him out of extra money. Let's just be

984
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 2: clear about that. He lost.

985
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Not incorrect, You're right, but the maybe an even bigger

986
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: point is what he's saying is, you know, because your

987
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: response could be, well, who cares you gotta fight steep

988
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: A next. Anyway, he says he would have stayed active

989
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: if he had the interim title. He would have fought

990
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: one or two more times more while waiting out Steepay,

991
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: which is very interesting and to your point, he would

992
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: have made more money and would have been, you know,

993
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: a feature player.

994
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: So right, which and I know everyone like doesn't want

995
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: the extra titles. I don't either, but you know, if

996
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: we don't have a better way to pay these guys

997
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: if they were gonna be on ice for long periods

998
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: of time, you know, you kind of got to roll

999
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: the dice on this one a little bit. I understand

1000
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: UFC only wants to give an interim title if it's

1001
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: gonna live for a very short amount of time, right,

1002
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: you know, up until the next bout. Basically, you get

1003
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: you get, you get one bout between you, you get the

1004
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: space between one bout and another to live through, unless

1005
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: you're j Delashaw and the promo and the guy who

1006
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: was the long standing champion is out and then we

1007
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: all know the story there with Hennon Barrow and Dominic Cruz,

1008
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: but so I get that, I get that reservedness. I

1009
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: just felt like we could have done the guy a

1010
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: solid there and the world wouldn't have ended. But that's

1011
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: just my personal opinion.

1012
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: BC so card on Saturday blows chunks after this.

1013
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's talk about the main event very quickly,

1014
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: because I actually have a lot of interest in it.

1015
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: I have a high opinion of Anthony Smith, you know,

1016
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: and I know he sometimes people don't want to acknowledge

1017
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: that the guy is very good. Here's his resume since

1018
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: going to two hundred and five pounds. He beat Rashod,

1019
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: he beat Showgun, he beat by the way that that

1020
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: Showgun win has aged kind of nicely all things considered.

1021
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: He beat Vulcan, he submitted him, by the way. All

1022
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: three of those wins were by finish. He lost to

1023
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: John Jones in a pretty one sided about Okay, comes

1024
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: back and he beats Gustups and he finishes him as well.

1025
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: But since then he's lost two in a row. He

1026
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: had that terrible fight against Glover where he looked good

1027
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: early but it went on way too long. As corner

1028
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: came on a lot of scrutiny for how long it went,

1029
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: and then you have the Alexander Rakich fight where he

1030
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: just didn't seem to be in it from the word go. Now,

1031
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: rackag might end up being your next champion. He's an

1032
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: extraordinarily good prospect. But here he is taken on Devin Clark,

1033
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: which BC to me, is a step backwards, which means

1034
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: that's what somebody who has lost three of his last four,

1035
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: or two of his last three, whatever it is, should

1036
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: be doing. However, Devin Clark can wrestle his ass off.

1037
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: He got lit on fire by Alonso Menifield and managed

1038
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: to find a way to see the fight to the end,

1039
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: in fact, got his hand raised in the end. This

1040
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: is a risky fight for Anthony Smith, who has a

1041
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: lot of skills defensive wrestling probably not his strongest skill.

1042
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: Right, and he needs to win very badly. He's talking

1043
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: about Anthony Smith, Luke, interesting that you would play up

1044
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: this matchup. It doesn't move me a ton, but look,

1045
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: the heart wanteth what the heart want, Luke. We all

1046
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: have blinders and or favorites, right, I'm a Kevin Lee guy.

1047
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm a yo wanna guy. I'm a Rose Valentina guy.

1048
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: We know this. You love the Barman boys, and you

1049
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: love yourself some Anthony lyonhart Smith and Luke. I'm not

1050
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: here to tell you the man ain't good. But I

1051
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: just think he made a inadmirable and fun transition from

1052
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: journeyman guy to a with a lot of losses to

1053
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: pretty damn good fighter. But the division was a little

1054
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: shallow at that time. There was a little bit of

1055
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: fool's gold in some of those wins, and then we

1056
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: started to think of him as like super elite title challenger,

1057
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: and I think since then he showed you that he's not.

1058
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: And that's fine, Luke, and he can answer some questions

1059
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: in this fight, and he can tell me to f

1060
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: off with a big win.

1061
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: But here's I don't really agree with that characterization. But

1062
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: I'll maybe meet you halfway, which is I am open

1063
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: to the idea that in some of those wins, the

1064
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: Gustafson win, the Uzdamir win again, He'll want all of

1065
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: those by stop. Just to be clear, he didn't get

1066
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: some like lucky decision. Maybe you could argue he overperformed,

1067
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: but if you wanted to argue that, I would also

1068
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: argue that he kind of underperformed in some of these losses.

1069
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: He should beat Devin Clark. This is what makes this

1070
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: is why the fight is more interesting to me. If

1071
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: this was Anthony Smith at his best and Devin Clark

1072
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: at his best, I'd probably still favor Anthony Smith by

1073
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: a fairly strong degree. But I thought he came back

1074
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: way too quickly in the loss to Alexander Rakitch after

1075
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: that terrible beating he took to Glover to share. You recall,

1076
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: it was like a super quick turnaround, and this is

1077
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: also a fairly quick turnaround as well. To me, he

1078
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: should have taken some time off and worked on some

1079
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: things to really solidify the next campaign, taking those you know,

1080
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: those three losses not in a row, but three of

1081
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: the four there with the Jones and then two losses

1082
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: I just mentioned. But he's coming right back against the

1083
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: Devin Clark, who again I don't think has done what

1084
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: he has done in that division, but has just the

1085
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: right skill set to give a guy who might be

1086
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: rushing things all kinds of problems. And so for that reason,

1087
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: this fight to me is highly intriguing.

1088
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: All right, I can accept that, I'll take that. Is

1089
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: that all right. Well, do you see that picture. It

1090
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: look like the guy's face didn't match the body. Maybe

1091
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: that's because he had a weird orange beard right there, Luke,

1092
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: you got some weird orange coming out of your beard.

1093
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't know where's that from, Luke.

1094
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: I don't. I wish. I wish I had a good

1095
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: answer for you, but I don't. By the way, oddsmakers

1096
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: sort of agree with me. They've got Smith at a

1097
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: minus one forty Clark at a plus one twenty. That's

1098
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: pretty close. It's a tight contest. By the way, a

1099
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: couple of the fights of note on this card. One

1100
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Miguel Baza is back. He's undefeated out of MMA masters

1101
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: in Miami. I think they call him Chocolate Thunder. That

1102
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 2: dude is a beast. So he is back against Takashi Sato,

1103
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: the king of the conspiracy theories, Spike Carlisle, the ginger Ninja.

1104
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: What's his name? That dude?

1105
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy's fun.

1106
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: He's fun, Luke, he is, dude, he is. I mean,

1107
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: have you ever seen they use this word in boxing?

1108
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: We don't use it so much, but you know the

1109
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: term BC. Is there a better TV fighter in your

1110
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: life than Spike Carlisle? Who's got this super athletic and

1111
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: it's just shot out of a cannon.

1112
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: He goes for the like. So the difference between him

1113
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: and in a previous Michelle Padeda. I know Padata's kind

1114
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: of put things together now, but the difference is Carlisle

1115
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: goes for the finish in every single situation. He's looking

1116
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: to win, and in the fight he'll take chances, he'll

1117
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: gas himself out but still keep coming. Yeah, he's fun

1118
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: to watch outside of that, though, Luke, Outside of Spike

1119
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: in the main event, this card is uh is the uh.

1120
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: You know that you know the stain at the bottom

1121
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: of the toilet that even you can flush it two

1122
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: three times, Luke, and it's still there. Bro still there.

1123
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: You know how many times you take it dump and

1124
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: then what you leave there breaches the water. That happens

1125
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 2: to me fairly frequently. Uh. By the way, on this

1126
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: card is gross enough, You're like, next, let you want

1127
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: to be gross, I'll play the game. Rachel Osovich's back

1128
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: on this card. I think she had a brief suspension

1129
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: from some sort of U side of funk. She is

1130
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: four and five BC. It is not often you see

1131
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: a fighter who is less than five hundred on a

1132
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: UFC card. And what makes matters worse for her is

1133
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: she's taken on Gina Mazzani at one twenty five. Gina

1134
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: Mazzanni has her own ups and downs, was a pretty

1135
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 2: decent grappler, and that might be trouble for old Rachel.

1136
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna see what happens there.

1137
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Well, Rachel, do us have guts? Remember she was willing

1138
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: to jump off of that cliff into the water on

1139
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: Dana White looking for a fight when the boss was

1140
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: not Luke.

1141
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, as interesting as that is, all right, Topic

1142
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: number four very quickly bec because were running out of

1143
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: time here. Tony Ferguson versus Charles Olivera set for UFC

1144
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 2: two fifty six. But I gotta tell you, I would

1145
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: have preferred to have seen Tony Ferguson versus Michael Chandler.

1146
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: But if this is the constellation prize, I'll take it.

1147
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera has slowly gotten better and better, and he's

1148
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: had some terrible setbacks, but he didn't let it really

1149
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: derail him. Folks forgot how good that went over. Kevin

1150
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: Lee was at UFC sal Polo. This is his next fight,

1151
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: and this is such a crossroads fight because b see

1152
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. You can look at this

1153
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: and say, is Tony still elite? But at age thirty

1154
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: is he still elite? Or at age thirty seven after

1155
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: that horrific beating he took against Justin Gatgee's he still

1156
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: the same guy? Or is Charles Oliveric the guy who

1157
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: we've kind of always thought him to be, or is

1158
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: he finally gonna turn that corner against to Tony Ferguson

1159
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: and show us that he deserves to now be in

1160
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: that top five space. Love this fight and by the way,

1161
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 2: all action everywhere in this contest.

1162
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you laid out the narratives very well in terms

1163
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: of what's at stake and what's important. And let's not

1164
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: forget though when talking about Tony Ferguson, it was pretty

1165
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: extreme when he came back from that like serious, like

1166
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: career threatening knee injury and like came back like three

1167
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: weeks later and fought was it pettis Er cowboy? Remember that?

1168
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy just just has this ability luke

1169
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: to do the impossible, you know, like that, and also

1170
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: bring weird things to public workouts and then walk off

1171
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: stage and hand them to Luke Thomas, I still don't

1172
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: understand the connection there. I think you're even a little

1173
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: bewildered at that time, Luke, remember that weird time that

1174
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Remember that time.

1175
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't that weird. He and I for a long

1176
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 2: time exchange text messages, just sort of talking back and forth,

1177
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: and I think he was just sort of acknowledging some

1178
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: kind of bond we had built at the time.

1179
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: All right, well, then let me not let me celebrate that,

1180
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: because that's the opposite of the John Jones press conference moment.

1181
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: So I would rather celebrate this moment, Luke, okay as

1182
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: something good. But to your greater point, this fight bangs.

1183
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: It is a a straw. Is this the col main event?

1184
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: Now?

1185
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: Now that Peter jan An the other guy's off, I

1186
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: don't think we're lamenting enough, Luke. How how how how

1187
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: rough that is that? That that Al Joe Yan fight

1188
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: not happening right now? That was gonna be like the

1189
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: sort of sleeper to end the year. But look, this

1190
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: Tony de Bronx fight is that. And you know we

1191
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: said it in the past, I'll say it again. They're

1192
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: depending on what happens with Habib and all that, this

1193
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: could be an almost number one contender fight. If Habib

1194
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: doesn't fight again and Pourier and Connor is for some

1195
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: kind of interim, this might produce your next title challenger

1196
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: after that, Luke, So a lot at steak, a lot

1197
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: of storylines, a lot of violence. That's how I get down, Luke. Okay, yes, wow.

1198
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: All right, right by Wait what do we have? Do

1199
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: we have odds for that? Let me see what the

1200
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: odds are here from UFC two fifty six. Um, I

1201
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: don't think they're I don't think they're up yet. That's

1202
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: a shame. Oh yes, excuse me? What am I saying?

1203
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: So here we have it? Let's see here. Uh, somehow

1204
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: they don't have that listed. Seriously, how's that possible? Luke?

1205
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Is that the only gift you ever received from a fighter?

1206
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, they have it, sorry, Charles Lavera plus one

1207
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: thirty five, Tony minus one fifty five. It's the only

1208
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: gift I've ever receeen. No, the Hawaiians always bring me

1209
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: candy whenever I'd interview them, like, uh, Max Halloway brings

1210
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 2: cupcakes to the studio. Nancy Madeiros brings like Hawaiian chocolates

1211
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: every time.

1212
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: Shout out to those guys.

1213
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, isn't that great one of those dudes? Awesome,

1214
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: They're great.

1215
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: BJ Penn always knocks out a guy in the parking lot. Yeah,

1216
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: it's those Hawaians are the best.

1217
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: Look, poor BJ, What are you gonna do? All right?

1218
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: Do we want to do topic five? Or do we

1219
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: give a shit? We can do it? I guess right.

1220
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: Well, also, we don't have room for it, and it's

1221
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: not a big deal. But Danny Jacobs is also back

1222
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: on Friday on his own Luke against Gay Brizato. Gabe

1223
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: has manufactured this beef that may or may or may

1224
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: not be real. I love Gabe, tough fighter, but you

1225
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: feel like Danny Jacob is gonna win it. The only

1226
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: interesting footnote here at Luke is that Triple G's coming

1227
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: back December eighteenth against that Polish guy, and the next

1228
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: night Canelo is fighting, also on his owne against Callum Smith.

1229
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Now we don't know if Canelo will we'll keep loyalty

1230
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: and come back on his own, and it seems like

1231
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: Canelo wants nothing to do with Triple G. If Danny

1232
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: Jacobs wins this week, it's not out of the question,

1233
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: Luke that he gets a Triple G rematch, and if

1234
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: you remember their first which was a pay per view

1235
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, it was a good ass fight. Danny

1236
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: Jacobs got off the canvas and rallied Lade and switched

1237
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: stances and really gave Triple G a handful. I would

1238
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: not be against that if we cannot get the Canelo.

1239
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: Trilogy, sure, especially with the you know, we're not gonna

1240
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: say Triple G is washed, but he has definitely declined

1241
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: from his peak. Yes, we'll see what kind of shape

1242
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: Danny Jacobs is. He's usually pretty rock solid as far

1243
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: as preparatory stuff, so that could be an interesting rematch, depending.

1244
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it would just be a shame though for

1245
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: him to no. I think, you know what, I'd be

1246
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: okay with that. I'd be okay with that if that's

1247
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: the way it goes. Last but not least real quickly,

1248
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: Number got made off. Have you number goa manof He

1249
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: put out like a cryptic post on Instagram saying see

1250
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: you soon Dana White and tagged Danny went White in

1251
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: It was a picture from the Last Fight Island where

1252
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: they're on stage together for one of the pressers and

1253
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: you know, Dana White commented, like two emojis of fists

1254
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: in the in the comments, we make anything from this, BC,

1255
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: we do we think it's bullshit or what do you

1256
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: think it's the there's something to be gleaned from that.

1257
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: The thing about it that I can't overlook is that

1258
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: Habib doesn't joke around like this on social media, right,

1259
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. He's not the type of

1260
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: guy who's going to, like heartfelt, say I need to

1261
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: respect my mother and my dead father's wishes, so I

1262
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: retire now and have this great thing, and then fool

1263
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: around and sort of fake tease it on social media

1264
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: right Like this is almost like a Joel Romero see

1265
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: you soon boy type of reference. Habib don't do that.

1266
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: So unless he's referencing like legitimately, Dana, I'm coming to

1267
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: your area, let's get dinner together, or you know, is

1268
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: UFC gonna do some celebration where Habib gives up the

1269
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: belt officially in like a press conference, and then we

1270
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: announced that Connor's fighting for the interim. I don't know, Luke,

1271
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: this is interesting, this is very interesting. I just still

1272
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: look what was Habib quoted like a week ago in

1273
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: some interview, and he was like no, I'm not coming back.

1274
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: That's just Dana White promoter speak. So I don't know.

1275
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, my attitude is I probably think

1276
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: he's done. If he is, I get it. You could

1277
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: just never say never. You can never say never. So

1278
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: we shall see a bit of breaking news here. Has

1279
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: nothing to do with MMA, but it is a big

1280
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: enough piece of sports news that it's probably worth mentioning.

1281
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: In fact, I do think it is worth mentioning legendary

1282
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: player for Argentina, maybe in fact, the greatest soccer player ever.

1283
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: That's debatable, but he's certainly in the top one or two.

1284
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: Hit him in Pele. Diego Maradona has died. Diego Maradona

1285
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: is sort of famous for the hand of God. He

1286
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: was only the hand of God goal he is. He

1287
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: was only sixty years old, and he was not in

1288
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: great health. He had gained a bunch of weight and

1289
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: I think he had been admitted to the hospital for

1290
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: heart problems. But he has passed away. So I don't

1291
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: know how to put this in MMA terms. BC, but

1292
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: this is something like you know, Saint Pierre dying that's

1293
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: age sixty or something. It's it's it's right up there

1294
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: with that it's it's a terrible.

1295
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: Deal, like it if Saint Pierre had Connor McGregor's personality

1296
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: and he.

1297
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: Died, right, Yeah, that's about right, yes, correct, if you

1298
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: had if it was a total troll at a shithead.

1299
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: But also, you know, an amazing, amazing player.

1300
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: He loved the cocaine, he loved the coin. Yeah, mom,

1301
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: can you wait? Yeah, shout out to him six years old,

1302
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: eighty six World Cup, the famous goal. He's a controversial figure.

1303
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: He was was he coach of the national team for

1304
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: a while, Luke.

1305
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't do too well. But yeah, yeah,

1306
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: he's always compared to Messi because he was a tremendous

1307
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: club player, but he brought a World Cup back to

1308
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: Argentina and Messi has never done that. So I watched it.

1309
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: Dot. Did you see that doc that came out in

1310
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of years about when, uh, when Maridona

1311
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: signed with that Uh? What was that Italian club team?

1312
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: The whole doc about that.

1313
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: I did not see it, all right, I saw it.

1314
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: It was good.

1315
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what channel it's on.

1316
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1317
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about my ass, but yeah, I.

1318
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: Think it was HBO. I think it was HB never

1319
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: heard of it.

1320
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, all.

1321
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: Right, BC, it's time for social Justice Wednesday. Goods, sir,

1322
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: take us to take us through it.

1323
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: All right, this is where we look at the interwebs

1324
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: and we bring in the honorable one Judge Luke Gator

1325
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: Beinsburg Luke Vader Ginsburg to rule on some street beefs

1326
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: that have been brought to the interwebs. Hey, Tayo Femo Lopez.

1327
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: You know that fella, we love him. He came out

1328
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: and got the game heavy on Twitter. He said, go

1329
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: ahead and envy me. I'm Boxing's MVP and I ain't

1330
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: going nowhere, so you can get to know me. Hashtag

1331
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: the takeover. I love that reference, Luke, Right, yep, I

1332
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: guess okay, all right, well the rap references continued. He

1333
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: followed it up with a line that apparently I don't

1334
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: know this stuff. Jada Kiss dropped in a job Rule

1335
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: song called New York, and he said, and I'm not cocky,

1336
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm confident. So when you tell me I'm the best,

1337
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: it's a compliment. So this is him just flaunting pee cocking.

1338
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm down with it. Then, finally, Luke, he showed off

1339
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: his knockout power with this quote tweet at Ryan Garcia.

1340
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: Ry guy came out and said, I'm constantly in competition

1341
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: with myself. So Tao sent him to hell my quote

1342
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: tweeting and said tends to happen when you don't pull out,

1343
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: which Luke is a reference to the fact that Ryan Garcia,

1344
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: a young father, has much much baby Mama drum interwebs.

1345
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Tao's trolling game.

1346
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm not the biggest Jadakiss fan, but okay,

1347
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: he's feeling himself whatever. That's fine. But you know, when

1348
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 2: it comes to the attacking of Ryan, I'm always here.

1349
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: I actually have nothing against Ryan Garcia slander. Excuse me,

1350
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: I have nothing against Ryan Garcia, but I'm a big

1351
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: consumer of Ryan Garcia slander. I actually feel like it's

1352
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: really funny and there his contemporaries are really good at it.

1353
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: So the judge rules in favor of the plaintiff. Here

1354
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: Tao Fema Lopez with the win.

1355
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: All right, Judge, our next case involves the retired great

1356
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: or is he Floyd Mayweather? Well, it's certainly great. Wow

1357
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: is that my voice? Twice?

1358
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: All right?

1359
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: Little echo?

1360
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: I love hearing echoes. On the feed BC. It really

1361
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: makes the show go smoothly.

1362
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, I don't know if you saw it, but

1363
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: one internet troll himself, Logan Paul, posted a video on

1364
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: IG talkings about Floyd. Let's go to the videotape. I

1365
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: asked you about it. He didn't say any Let me

1366
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: let me tell you this. If I caught Floyd in

1367
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: a real fight, what's up? What's up? If I caught

1368
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: Floyd in a real fight, street fight?

1369
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: Right?

1370
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: Whoop? Is as all right? No question? You got a

1371
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: lemma octagon? Who is ask?

1372
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 2: No question?

1373
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: The only place I think Floyd is safe obviously the

1374
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: boxing ring. But to be honest, I don't give a fuck.

1375
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

1376
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: I would fight Floyd anytime, anywhere, any place doesn't matter

1377
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: to me. If I caught him. If I caught Floyd

1378
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: with one punch, one punch, I would snap this fucker

1379
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: and half Oh crack. My friend Fletcher, you know me,

1380
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm eight inches taller. Yeah, I'm forty pounds heavier. I'm

1381
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: half his age, I'm two times as hungry and ten

1382
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: times as smart.

1383
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: Wow, my friend used to being.

1384
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: Up people weaker and shorter than I know. Brod I

1385
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: how do you get paid to be He didn't.

1386
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: Say a word.

1387
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: Nah, Logan bro, think about it. He got everything to lose.

1388
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: I got nothing to lose.

1389
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, why are we are?

1390
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: Y'all? Take is one punch in a street from Logan Paul,

1391
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: But you know money may ain't going out like that, Luke.

1392
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: He came back on Twitter, this is Floyd Mayweather and

1393
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: said these YouTube girls better find some Barbie dolls to

1394
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: play with because I'm not the one for the kid games.

1395
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: Three years ago, a fighter from the USC said my

1396
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: name and I had to put a muzzle on that

1397
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: bitch at Logan Paul can get the same treatment before

1398
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: I go conquer Japan again. Now Floyd is referencing Luke

1399
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: that he recently did a press conference in Japan announcing

1400
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: his return of some kind of fight in the future.

1401
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: Let's remember he fought Tension Nasakawa, the teenage Sensation kickboxer

1402
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: who was twenty five pounds lighter than him that one time. Okay, Well,

1403
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: then Connor McGregor joined in, Luke, because I think you

1404
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: saw in that Floyd tweet he threw a little shade

1405
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: on Floyd on Connor, and Connor put up this photo

1406
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: with him, yeah, with him okay.

1407
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 2: Going tip tip to butt.

1408
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: And then Logan Paul came back to Floyd's tweet and

1409
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: put up fifty to one, fifty and one. I'm sorry

1410
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: Floyd's record after he fights Logan, Judge, you downt with this.

1411
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what is sadder this whole fucking circus

1412
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: or Rudy Giuliani sweating his hair dye out with these

1413
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, absurd claims of ass piss and pissing the

1414
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: ass that he's been doing all through the north Midwest

1415
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: or the northwest or northwest north. Excuse me, I am

1416
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: this is sad this show. I don't care if this

1417
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: show is sad. It shouldn't be as sad as that is.

1418
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: That to me at a level beyond what we should

1419
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: be doing.

1420
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: First of all, I like Connor's response there. It's it's hilarious.

1421
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: It's on point for this show. But Luke, in all seriousness,

1422
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't Floyd wasn't too good for tension. Okay, Floyd

1423
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: will cash your check if there's a lot of it.

1424
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: Floyd obviously knows that these YouTubers are gaining momentum. Uh

1425
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: do you think he would really fight Logan Paul in

1426
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: a boxing match, and you know, after you crept on

1427
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: it a few times, would you be interested? Would there

1428
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: be any form of like, all right, let's see what

1429
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: this looks like.

1430
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this. I have diarrhea and I'd like

1431
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: to go to the next topic.

1432
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, all right, judge, Well I'll respect

1433
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: your our final SJW Shot of the Week comes from UFC.

1434
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: What is he a featherweight? Andre touchy feely? He says

1435
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I don't effing trust cat people, not all

1436
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: the way at least even the ones very close to

1437
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: me in my life, even the ones I've known for years.

1438
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: If you get asked cats or dogs and you say

1439
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 1: cats and you really feel that in your heart, there's

1440
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: something wrong with you. Luke uh doctor, Judge, Judge Luke

1441
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: Bader Ginsburg, can you weigh in here? Because I think

1442
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: this is way off, Luke, way off.

1443
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is super way off, dude. Cats are awesome. Now.

1444
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd pick them over dogs, but

1445
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: I certainly wouldn't pick them under people. Like there's this

1446
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: weird thing people like to slander cats, and it's the

1447
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: sort of same like memish thing where people like, oh,

1448
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm scared of clowns. No you're not. You heard five

1449
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: other people say that, so now you repeat that none

1450
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: of you are actually scared of clown Stop lying. It's

1451
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: the same thing with cats. It's like, oh, yeah, there's

1452
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: totally something wrong with cats. I mean, yes, you do

1453
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: catch people with like thirty cats in their house and

1454
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: they smell like piss and they have to get evicted

1455
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: and all the cats euthanized. You don't really see that

1456
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: with dogs in the same way. You do get some

1457
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, eccentric personalities, like you over there with the

1458
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: world's worst fucking mask that I've ever seen. Uh, you

1459
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 2: look like a rat that had drank neon fucking I mean,

1460
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: it's like it's like if Master Splinter had the worst

1461
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: costume ever over there, What are you doing?

1462
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: That was my Reggie Jackson mask. I'm a cat guy,

1463
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: Come on, touchy feeling.

1464
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: Cats are Cats are fucking awesome. Your dog is not

1465
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: gonna go catch a fucking lizard or a squirrel, you know,

1466
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: and bring that shit to your door. They don't suffer

1467
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: fools kindly. They'll smack your ass around, and you know

1468
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: they're fucking hilarious in their own way. But I also

1469
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: love dogs. I think dogs are super amazing and your

1470
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: life can profit with having either in them.

1471
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. I didn't have dogs at all

1472
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: until about three years ago, and look they've changed my life.

1473
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: I love them. I love my two dogs, all right,

1474
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: shout out to Molly the Wonder Dog. But Luke, I'm

1475
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: a cat guy for life, all right. Touchy Phely, by

1476
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: the way, I really like that that weed thriller that

1477
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: mister Faber put out. I know you're in it, Luke. Okay,

1478
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: I know you didn't get any royalty check from that.

1479
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: I like Touchy Pheely's performance in that. But hey, judge,

1480
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: he's dead wrong on this. Okay, all right, super think

1481
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: Jay's Jay's probably a cat guy too, right.

1482
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: Jay is probably that guy in the documentary Don't Fuck

1483
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: with Cats that murders the cats at the beginning.

1484
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: All right, that's your street justice social justice for the

1485
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,919
Speaker 1: week on Wednesday. Okay, Hey, Luke, let's bring our Friday

1486
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: segment to Wednesday this week. Again, a reminder, we will

1487
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: have a bonus Friday Q and a show with Luke

1488
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: and I that was pre taped. But here's a little

1489
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: dead wrong early, Luke. When we look back there it

1490
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: is on the week of hot takes on this it's

1491
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: called dead wrong. Luke. Here we go Saturday night during

1492
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: UFC two fifty five, during Jennifer Maya's ring entrance, you

1493
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: tweeted dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap is an uncomfortably appropriate

1494
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: walkout song for a fighter. The problem, Luke, was Maya

1495
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: walked out to TNT by ac DC Yester.

1496
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes, bro, you know it's like wrong. I know, it's

1497
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: like tweeting. It's like the equivalent of tweeting, like teenage

1498
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: wasteland for the song being called Baba O'Reilly BC. You

1499
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: ever heard the Cannibal Corpse cover of TNT.

1500
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: No, No, it is.

1501
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: Fun No, excuse me, not Cannibal Corpse. It's a six

1502
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: feet Under who had the original lead singer of Cannibal

1503
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: Corpse is now the singer of six feet Under. They

1504
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: do a cover of it and it is fucking awesome.

1505
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 2: So I highly recommend that. Yes, fine, you know those

1506
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: are the lyrics. But okay, yes, that part all right?

1507
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, let's continue to take l's. I mean the

1508
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 1: first you can't spell Luke without the right You told

1509
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: me during Monday's show when I very educatedly with my

1510
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: high school plus a couple.

1511
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 2: Of years, I'm about to pull the okie doke on you,

1512
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: so be very careful how you tread these waters, good friends.

1513
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: Luke, with my community college education, I pulled off tangentally

1514
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: at a word as a word, and you gave me help.

1515
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: Except it's not even a word. People flooded the social

1516
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: webs and said, not only is tangentally a word, so

1517
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: is tangentially. They are two separate words, Luke. Here's the

1518
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: definition of tangentially in a way that relates only slightly

1519
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 1: to a matter peripherally. The narrative deals only tangentially with

1520
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: marriage and number two in the manner, position, or direction

1521
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: of a tangent. Luke, you were dead wrong, bro. I

1522
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: know my words, I know I know stuff.

1523
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: The problem is you don't. So let's see here if

1524
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 2: you can, good Sir h Gaff, throw up the tweet

1525
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 2: here that I would like to show. Look at the

1526
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: time of this November twenty third to twenty six, today

1527
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: is the twenty fifth. This is two days ago, meaning

1528
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: after Monday show. The word is not tangentially. It is

1529
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: tangentially because you actually have to get the I and

1530
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: the A in there. I use tangentially maybe six times

1531
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: every motherfucking live chat. It's amazing how people hear what

1532
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: they want to hear and don't actually understand the arguments

1533
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: that I make. It happens to me all the time.

1534
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: B see. Oh Luke, you love steroids, Well no, I

1535
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: just don't demean them in the way that people other do.

1536
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: There's due unnecessarily. Oh Luke, you said X and you

1537
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 2: said honey Mugia was the heaviest puncher in boxing. No,

1538
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: I didn't listen again. Oh Luke, you said yamblohovich, we

1539
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: came from one eighty five. No, I didn't listen again.

1540
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: Go back and listen again. The issue is not that

1541
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. Tangentially is a word, BC. It might

1542
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: be my favorite word next to I don't know the

1543
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,440
Speaker 2: words I enter in for my porn searches. But tangently

1544
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: is not the word. It's not a word at all.

1545
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything because it's not actually a word.

1546
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: So but up but up.

1547
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow? So are you saying that I was

1548
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: dead wrong in my pronunciation, Luke, because I don't.

1549
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 2: Not only not only were you dead wrong, in your pronunciation,

1550
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: which is fine. We all get shit wrong time to time.

1551
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't really care so much about that. But then

1552
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: the viewers who thought that this was some get b See.

1553
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm beginning to be a little bit skeptical of this

1554
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: segment because it only works if they're actually right that

1555
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: we are wrong. And yet week after week I have

1556
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: to keep pointing out here that people seem to have

1557
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: listening comprehension issues that I can't control. Folks, go back

1558
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: and watch. I did not get this wrong. I got

1559
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: the TNT thing wrong. Fine, I'll eat the.

1560
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: L You told me it wasn't a word.

1561
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: You should have said, Hey, tangently is not a word.

1562
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 2: Tangenthilly is a word because it's t I A L

1563
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: L Y.

1564
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: Not the antics, Thomas here, it's not fucking semantics.

1565
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: There's no word called tangently. It's like a mix betweens.

1566
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: Luckily you had more l's this week, Luke and your

1567
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: instant analysis to two fifty five on the Morning Combat Channel,

1568
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: you said Valentino Chifchenko has five title defenses of her

1569
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: Flyway title. Luke, that's dead wrong. She has four.

1570
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: Bro Okay, I mean you know what, I'm not sure

1571
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: how much I believe I even said this at this point,

1572
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: but I won't find so sure.

1573
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 1: Wow, look at look at it. I can't honestly get sad.

1574
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: No, it's not bad Trump. Trump would be asserting something

1575
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: without facts. I'm giving you the facts. There is no

1576
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: word t A N G E N T A L

1577
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: L Y.

1578
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: Doesn't it not have relations with that word? I don't

1579
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: even think I said that. All right? Uh, dead wrong continues.

1580
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: Look, there's gis on my dress. Guy, you were there.

1581
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: I have proof, Luke I was dead wrong. On Monday,

1582
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: when looking at Tim Means's resume, which includes twenty three

1583
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: UFC appearances, I made the assumption that outside of the

1584
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: Mike Perry win, he's TI means good fighter, but his

1585
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: best win is a win over washed Thiago Silva. Turns

1586
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: out I was dead wrong, Luke. I meant washed Thiago

1587
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: Alves was his best win. I got my Brazilian screw,

1588
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: Paulo Tiago Thiago. I don't know.

1589
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but is that who is that? Who you

1590
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,440
Speaker 2: met in YOURND.

1591
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: Then Thiago Alvis? And I forgot that Thiago Silva existed

1592
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: When I said it, I was like, wait, is that

1593
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: maheta No, Mahetta is uh yeah, Look, Luke, I'm not perfect. Okay,

1594
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 1: I took it out. I'll take the l all right.

1595
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: It's lots of Thiago's. Bro, there's a lot of them, donks.

1596
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah there it really is there? Really is that? Was

1597
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: that racist? Aviews?

1598
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: No?

1599
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: Not really, not really?

1600
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 2: Just no, this is true. You. I mean, I don't

1601
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: I don't know a whole lot about Brazil to say this,

1602
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: but you know, from where my wife is from, Dude,

1603
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of different names. It's a lot

1604
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: of Wands. It's a lot of Diego's, you know what

1605
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's a lot of It's a lot of

1606
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 2: uh Maria, it's a lot of Fernandez. It's just everyone's

1607
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: got the same name down there. So there's lots Thiago.

1608
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Luke. While recapping last week's dead wrongs

1609
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: during the Dead Wrong segment, Mikey, our producer, flip flopped

1610
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: the nicknames and dead wrong. So remember we kind of

1611
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: did a reverse double cross send them back to hell

1612
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: because apparently I did call Paul Felder the Red Dragon

1613
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: when his nickname is the Irish Dragon.

1614
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: No, no, you called you don't know, BC, you got

1615
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: it right, you called him the Irish Dragon, and someone

1616
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: said that, uh, saying we were wrong.

1617
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: I think the whole point of this being on the

1618
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: list is they're saying we tried to send our producers

1619
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: double back to Hell, and they're saying I was wrong

1620
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: to begin with. It's just that it was presented in

1621
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: a weird way. I don't care. This segment sucks, all right, Luke, let's.

1622
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: Get all do it. Listen, folks, here's the deal. You

1623
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: want to submit to dead Wrong Morning Coombat at gmail

1624
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 2: dot com. You might want a double check, is all

1625
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You might want to go through that with

1626
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: a fine tooth comb, because otherwise I'm a fucking dunk

1627
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,879
Speaker 2: on you or not? Actually no, I'm went to the matumbo.

1628
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: Uh uh uh uh, all right, well not going to Luke.

1629
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: During Mondays, have you seen this shit? I showed the

1630
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: video of that check Fighter from the Iam Fighter promotion

1631
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: getting the Spinney shit ko and then doing almost a

1632
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: third Reich Hitler thing, and somebody wrote in to say, hey, BC,

1633
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: that check Fighter salute was not a Nazi salute. Checks

1634
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: were actually not fans of the Nazis at all, and

1635
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: it's more likely a reference to the most famous Czech

1636
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: athlete of all time, yar Omir Yager, and they said

1637
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 1: BC would appreciate that. In recent years, Yarimir Yagar slept

1638
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: with some model. She took a selfie with him in

1639
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 1: the morning and tried to blackmail him, and his response

1640
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: was to say, I don't care, and he sat up

1641
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: and smiled for another picture. Here's a video, Luke, of

1642
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: Yager doing that same salute. All right, I guess I'm

1643
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 1: dead wrong, Luke, He's all right. I mean, you know,

1644
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: Jay's people survived this segment. This is great, all right.

1645
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: I did not mean to reference that man's name.

1646
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: Okay, I might be getting this wrong, but I feel

1647
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,839
Speaker 2: like there was a time in one of the previous

1648
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: Olympics where Alex Ovechkin laid Yager out like fucking super

1649
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: hardcore in the middle of the ice and I really

1650
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 2: enjoyed that because you know, he played for Pittsburgh, right.

1651
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,879
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you, I got a newfound respect

1652
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 2: for this man. That is quite awesome.

1653
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: He's got a great mullet there, Yager. Shout out to him.

1654
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: Anyone that's that was on the NHL ninety four video

1655
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: game on Sega Genesis. Luke I'm I love them for life.

1656
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: Okay, you know I've never played a I don't think

1657
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: I've ever played a hockey video game.

1658
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god. HL ninety four on Sega's the best.

1659
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: But that was the first year with one time Luke

1660
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: and you can the guy would get up in.

1661
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: Post what's the best NBA game?

1662
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's okay, at the time, it doesn't hold up now.

1663
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: At the time, when NBA Live ninety eight came out

1664
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: on PlayStation one on EA Sports, that was the first

1665
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: game that had legitimate post up play with pivoting and

1666
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: head faking and stuff. I loved that. If you want

1667
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: talking about all time, I mean, look, there's the modern

1668
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: games are pretty awesome. My kid just got a two

1669
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: K twenty on on Xbox. We're playing.

1670
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: That was the one. It was still in arcades where

1671
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,799
Speaker 2: the players had giant heads.

1672
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, NBA JAM and NBA GM still holds up today

1673
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: on like Sega. If you still have that, if you

1674
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: can still make that happen.

1675
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

1676
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: We got a text here from our trustee producer, Mike Mormile.

1677
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: He says, uh, it was presented wrong. BC was right,

1678
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: it was presented wrong.

1679
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: Whatever I on the on the Irish dragon thing. I

1680
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: don't even know what that means anymore.

1681
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: Either, do I. The segment's done. Hey, let's go on

1682
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: to our other segment. We love when we put the

1683
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: spotlight back on the fans.

1684
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: Luke.

1685
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: It's our fans submissions of the week. Do we have

1686
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: a graphic for this?

1687
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 2: There it is.

1688
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: You've got mail, all right, Luke. This is where our

1689
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: people send in pictures of them. Wow. Shout out to

1690
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: a great couple on Instagram. We've talked about them before

1691
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: at Bill and Jen's RV adventure, Luke. They sold their house,

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01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: moved into an RV. They work from the RV dur

1693
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,879
Speaker 1: in the day and then travel all around our great country.

1694
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,799
Speaker 1: This is Bill, I think the other day at Redwood

1695
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: National Park in California. It's a big tree.

1696
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: That is that is God bless these people. They're living

1697
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: the life. Have you ever been to the Redwoods?

1698
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 1: I want to hit I want to hit every spot

1699
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: on their on their Instagram account. I want to go

1700
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: every single spot in the out West.

1701
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 2: It is, dude, it is it is due. That's like,

1702
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: it's the only time I've ever seen a forest and

1703
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 2: I was like, this is this is what it must

1704
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: have been like to live around with. I mean it's not,

1705
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 2: but you feel like it's prehistoric, like with the dinosaurs

1706
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 2: must have seen or something like it is shocking, how

1707
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: fucking amazing those trees? Look?

1708
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks awesome. And Bill fills out that m

1709
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: K T shirt pretty well. You can get yours as

1710
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: well a Black Friday sale at store dot show dot com.

1711
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: All right, all right, yeah, God, God bless them great,

1712
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 2: thanks for the pick and happy adventures. Man keeps keep

1713
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: sending on stuff.

1714
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right. On Instagram, a fellow that's shown up

1715
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: a few times do here. Anya Burrie made this nice

1716
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: photo of the future for Luke BC. Luke. There's a

1717
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: lot going on in this photo here on the right

1718
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: side it's Luke having a book signing. His book is

1719
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: called Is the Juice Worth the Squeeze? Doping in Combat

1720
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 1: Sports Dissected for Dogs? And look who's getting a signed

1721
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: copy one John Jones Luke.

1722
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: So wait, what are you doing? Beige Beige bargain bin

1723
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: dot coc.

1724
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't quite understand. I think this is a BC

1725
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: T shirt store. So we got we got a broback

1726
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: mounting T shirt with you and I as cowboys hugging

1727
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: each other. There's the tip on Tip T shirt, which

1728
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: I would wear that shirt if we can get that

1729
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: on the merch site ET and BC style, Louke, Is

1730
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: that me as et and you driving the bike? Luke?

1731
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: I think so. But that means you're there. You're the

1732
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 2: cool one.

1733
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess so you're you're Elliott. Yeah yeah.

1734
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: Hold on, here is something you may not appreciate. I

1735
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 2: could be wrong about this, but I believe this is correct.

1736
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 2: If you look at my little uh step and repeat

1737
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: there or whatever that is where it says is the

1738
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: juice worth the squeeze? That is the same font that

1739
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: they use in the New Yorker magazine, like a really

1740
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 2: fucking pretentious font, you know. And not only do I

1741
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: say that, is the juice worth the squeeze a lot.

1742
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: That's a perfect title for a book about doping. That

1743
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: really is dude, this is that. That has to be

1744
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: one of the better ones we've ever had.

1745
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is This is almost webscream territory in terms

1746
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: of the greatness of the show's history of work. Here

1747
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: all right. Oliver m has sent in this movie poster

1748
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: as a take on seth Rogen's Sausage Party movie lugets, sausage,

1749
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: combat a donk will rise, Come for the fight, talk,

1750
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: stay for the tip to tip.

1751
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: All right, what's to say at the bottom? I can't

1752
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 2: read it because it's what you call it.

1753
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: If you don't like it, you can go.

1754
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: That's appropriate.

1755
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: There, that's well done, well done, right there?

1756
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: All right? I hope, I hope you're proud of our audience.

1757
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Scott Rizz Scott m Rizzo. Riz e z Oh is

1758
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: back with a Starsky and Hutch inspired poster. MK. Look,

1759
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, bro, I love it, dude.

1760
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: But it's so dated. I mean, does anyone under the

1761
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 2: age of thirty no? What Starsky and hutches? I know.

1762
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 1: The sad part is I was watching Dukes of Hazards,

1763
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: all these Starsky Hutch all these shows like you know,

1764
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: when I was like three, four, five years old, I

1765
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: remember specifically. But our our listeners for the most part, Luke,

1766
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: they don't know this crap. All right, well done, Scott Rizzo.

1767
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: He also, Luke is back with a live look at

1768
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: your front yard right now. This is interesting. I don't

1769
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: know how he got your address, but this is interesting.

1770
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to coat your bar. Luke.

1771
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna use that gun metal. What are you gonna

1772
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 2: do with it? Buddy, Saliva doesn't get the job done?

1773
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, Luke, Todd M has sent us the

1774
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: next two We have a cool hand Luke movie poster.

1775
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: Oh when he ate all the eggs? That is awesome.

1776
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 2: Look at you looking like a goober up there.

1777
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: And Todd M has also sent us a new idea

1778
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 1: for our merch MK, hard boiled eggs. Luke, we got

1779
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: wave os. Luke, we got wave os.

1780
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: Right, dude, I gotta tell you this might be the

1781
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: strongest fan submission segment we've ever done.

1782
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: This is.

1783
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: These are good, These are very very very good.

1784
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: They well, they get better, Luke. You know, dick Oles,

1785
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: that guy is rising in our rankings right now. He

1786
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: came through with the fans of this week. Here are

1787
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,919
Speaker 1: four of them from him to bring us into the holiday.

1788
01:25:52,960 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: Here's Luke at Chipolte right right, referencing that that bloody

1789
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: bathroom joke you made earlier in the week.

1790
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 2: Luke, Oh, that is gross. That's good. That's good.

1791
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: Well it gets better too. Dick Oles is trying to

1792
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: commemorate the great Valentino Chefchenko interview I did from the

1793
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: hotel room for.

1794
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: M Dude, these fucking guys know us too well. We

1795
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 2: have nowhere to hide, oh dude, that is and they

1796
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: even did it with like the old Spider Man comic

1797
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: book style, you know.

1798
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, it's great, it's so good.

1799
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 2: It's so good.

1800
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: Here's another fanshot of me in La Apparently I've not

1801
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: seen this one yet. Let's see where we're going with this.

1802
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,480
Speaker 1: Luke happy.

1803
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you ate like a fucking trash panda. Yes,

1804
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 2: that's pretty good.

1805
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: And fine, that said is really good. Actually. Finally, Dickles

1806
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: closes this out with an early preview of Luke's Thanksgiving.

1807
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: So, so okay, so hold on, so if you get this, Uh,

1808
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: Rogan showed me this thing, this thing you wear on

1809
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: your head. I didn't know what it was. It's something

1810
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: you can wear for like you know, in the COVID

1811
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 2: inspired world. Uh, everything is correct, except even with this BC.

1812
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be turkey at my table, big guy,

1813
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: I'm not eating that shit.

1814
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: Well, there's a little elote right there, right, you get

1815
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: down with that?

1816
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do the street corn? Fuck yeah I do?

1817
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I could see you wearing that though. To

1818
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: allow eighty year old Rob Thomas a chance to celebrate with.

1819
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: You, right, Nah, I gotta go see him separately from this.

1820
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: That's too funny.

1821
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: If you're gone, maybe you'll need to come home that luke.

1822
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: He's never been called Rob right ever.

1823
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think I might call

1824
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: him Rob. Well, I gotta say. I mean, you know

1825
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: what home on BC. That was round of applause for

1826
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: those guys.

1827
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 1: Shout out to Todd m Scott, Rizzo, Dick Alls, all

1828
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: the crew. All right, well done people, yeah, well done.

1829
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're not good at if you're

1830
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 2: not good at like photoshop, don't worry about it. Do

1831
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: what our gentleman who's in the RV does. Just you know,

1832
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: wear some gear and then you know, will your gear

1833
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: out in some kind of place, or you and your

1834
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: buddies drinking forties or you know something like that. Just

1835
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 2: as long as your sporting the gear, we'll give you

1836
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: some shine on the show, right PC.

1837
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, sell first of all, sell your house,

1838
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: sell all your belongings, move into an RV, right, and

1839
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: then you you got three shirts. If two of them

1840
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: are MK, you're bound to take some photos with them.

1841
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: You know. It's fantastic.

1842
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: I love it all right. Well, with that in mind,

1843
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: let's do this BC uh submissions including for dead wrong,

1844
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 2: although please, you know, try to tighten those up a

1845
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: little bit. You can go to Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

1846
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is the best place

1847
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: to get those in. Send them along. Please don't stop.

1848
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 2: You know, the show works as a two way conversation,

1849
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: so we need your help in that regard, so appreciate

1850
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: everyone who has done that. Just the same video of course,

1851
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, thumbs up and subscribe to the channel. We're

1852
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 2: almost at our goal for the rest of the month.

1853
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 2: Help us hit seventy k before we hit December one,

1854
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: and then here we are on socials BC. You can

1855
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 2: get to us on Insta, you can get to us

1856
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: on the tweets, and then Morning Combat is consistent all

1857
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: the way through. By the way, you can also have

1858
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:30,839
Speaker 2: a vanity url YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. Reminder Friday,

1859
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: we will have fresh original content up Saturday. Of course,

1860
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: you have UFC as well as Roy Jones and blah

1861
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, so be on the lookout for

1862
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: some content related to that. If you want to try showtime,

1863
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: you certainly can. Showtime dot Com is a place to

1864
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: do it. Thirty day free trophy like it, you can

1865
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 2: keep it. If not, you can pound sand Be on

1866
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 2: the lookout for our socials on Friday because we'll give

1867
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: you the code to get gear from store dot show

1868
01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: dot com Morning Combat gear on sale for Black Friday.

1869
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 2: All right, So there we have the world's weirdest person

1870
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 2: with a werewolf mask that is supposed to be a cat.

1871
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: I've never seen cat with teeth like that, bro, never

1872
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 2: in my life. You look like the most fucked up

1873
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: member of slip Knot.

1874
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I join Gwar like this? Luke? Please?

1875
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 2: No, dude, do you ever see Gwar in person? Their

1876
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 2: shit is amazing?

1877
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,560
Speaker 1: But okay, I hear it's legendary.

1878
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 2: I have to I have to go to Whole Foods

1879
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 2: and shop for groceries. So that's gonna be fun. So

1880
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: I got to get out of here for a showtime

1881
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 2: for Malka. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Please be safe, wear a

1882
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: mask if you have to, don't breathe heavy on Grandma.

1883
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: We'll see you guys later on the week for some

1884
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: content that's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke thomasin until next time,

1885
01:30:41,960 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 2: all of your gains be loyal.