WEBVTT - Rent Is High, Rights Are Low

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lamb Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, well, come.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, Welcome home, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode eighty seven of Native Lamb Pod. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe it is eighty seven already. We are here

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<v Speaker 1>to give you the breakdown of all things politics and

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<v Speaker 1>culture where we give it to you straight, no chaser.

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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody so we can keep growing our lovely audience.

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<v Speaker 1>You who we try to include in all of our

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<v Speaker 1>all of our topics. All right, speaking of topics, what

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<v Speaker 1>we got today?

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<v Speaker 3>What y'all got?

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<v Speaker 4>What's up? What's up Angela? What you got for him?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we have a guest I'm excited about Elizabeth A. Booker.

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<v Speaker 5>Now he's about to mess it up. Elizabeth Booker Houston.

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<v Speaker 5>Booker squared is what she goes by on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 5>on TikTok, and y'all have known her for her legendary

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<v Speaker 5>takedowns and breakdowns of all things politics. I'm thrilled to

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<v Speaker 5>be shared space with her today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to hear from her. I don't know her

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<v Speaker 3>that well.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Angela, you and Elizabeth work together a lot closely,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm excited to hear what she has to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I google stalked her a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know her work, but I did google stock her

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, So I'm excited to hear from her

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<v Speaker 1>and connect with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew, what you got?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I want to talk about really an all

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<v Speaker 4>two silent crisis right now affecting so many people across

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<v Speaker 4>the country, and that's the affordability of housing. And really

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<v Speaker 4>this will be a preview to the topic because I

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<v Speaker 4>think we'll do a follow up, hopefully involving more of

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<v Speaker 4>our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, Okay, I have something on that. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to say on that. Well, for me, what

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<v Speaker 1>I got is the viewers. I yield my time this

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<v Speaker 1>week because I wanted to hear from the viewers, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is most important. And we want to remind

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, if you have a comment question, even when

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<v Speaker 1>you disagree with us, we welcome it. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation at you, but a conversation with you, So

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<v Speaker 1>please keep sending us your videos questions. We like to

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<v Speaker 1>see your lovely faces. And like I said, we welcome

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<v Speaker 1>disagreement here as well. All right, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 6>What's up Native landis is Craig and Brooklyn. I just

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to say happy summer, and I wanted to chime

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<v Speaker 6>in on your discussion about books. I'm so glad you

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<v Speaker 6>talk about books. Someone told me once that the way

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<v Speaker 6>that I make meaning is through words. Many of us

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<v Speaker 6>love words, whether we are hearing them or reading them,

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<v Speaker 6>or you know, our grandmothers are speaking to us.

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<v Speaker 7>So I mean just the importance of the word.

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<v Speaker 6>So with that being said, I want to recommend the

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<v Speaker 6>book by Clint Smith called How the Word Is Passed.

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<v Speaker 6>Brilliant book. His brother takes a tour through all of

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<v Speaker 6>the plantation sites in the American South, increased this beautiful

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<v Speaker 6>narrative about how those sites contribute to our history today.

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<v Speaker 6>And the funny thing is I read that book right

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<v Speaker 6>after I read sixteen nineteen. The two together was a

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<v Speaker 6>very powerful experience.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would recommend that as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome home, y'all, Angela Fifth Andrew love you guys as always.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that sounds of the city, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to tell you, guys, I felt bad because

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling y'all, I don't think that listening to

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<v Speaker 1>books is really reading, and Andrew You're like, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not an auditory learner. And then I felt bad

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people were dming me and saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, and I try to tell my

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<v Speaker 1>kids that all the time. And then I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>your kids might be, you know, auditory learners, like just

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<v Speaker 1>because I read and process things a different way. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was it just changed my perspective. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate this caller. First of all, Craig was kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Craig.

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<v Speaker 4>Craig, I heard my friend visits New York every now

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<v Speaker 4>and again.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew that he was gonna because he had his

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<v Speaker 5>little stroll, like his little gangstery yeah going. I knew

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<v Speaker 5>he was trying to be cute. And then Tiff went

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<v Speaker 5>for the bait. Tiff said, what's what your phone number is, Craig,

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<v Speaker 5>and what's the last name, because we're gonna vet you.

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<v Speaker 5>Tiff might not vet you, but we're gonna We're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>We're not gonna google stock, but we're definitely gonna do

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<v Speaker 5>a background check you.

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<v Speaker 3>Antel Is craggs now girlfriend about to be.

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<v Speaker 8>My name is like, I just want you to know

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<v Speaker 8>native welcome, you not welcome to my home.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, or these natively listeners, these ladies might see Craig

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<v Speaker 1>Crags dms might might be lit up. But thank you

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<v Speaker 1>black man for walking down the street looking beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>To send another question next week.

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<v Speaker 3>This time he's gonna be topless running.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just wanted to say, anyway, thank you Craigs

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<v Speaker 1>for your kid.

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<v Speaker 4>In speaking of guys, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Clint Smith, we should have them on. Sorry, and should

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>What you said of how many guys ask question she's

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<v Speaker 4>compared to our women listeners. And I think it's actually prettyparity,

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<v Speaker 4>Like we get a good balance between really adversity of

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<v Speaker 4>listeners sending in race wise, gender wise, and so on.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, should you have one white person is sending questions

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<v Speaker 5>what you talk about?

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<v Speaker 4>No, we've had no, we had two, one from Washington State.

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<v Speaker 4>We got the brother in Georgia. Uh, white white guy

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<v Speaker 4>in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 5>South Carolina. Yeah, okay, true, true, definitely rob so.

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<v Speaker 4>True true true. Okay, another question now period in the statement.

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<v Speaker 5>Well everybody white friend, we have boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 4>We got you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you'll continue to send in your questions and comments.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just finished dream Count by the way, by

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and Monday id e t I pronounce her name,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going on next to a side of Shaqueur

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<v Speaker 1>and angela ry recommendation that is next on my list,

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 5>All right? If you never read the autobiography of aid

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<v Speaker 5>No when you when you said it on the O,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, you know what, I haven't read that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to read that next love. I already know.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gonna come back next week with an Afro Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know if it's a good idea for me

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<v Speaker 1>to read it as militant as I feel these days,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad to I'm gonna read it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna want to go, You're gonna want to go

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<v Speaker 5>find her in Cuba, and you definitely gonna want to

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<v Speaker 5>get her off. The FBI's most one of this. Now

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<v Speaker 5>good luck in this environment, but you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, it might be a friend of your environment than

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<v Speaker 4>you think.

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<v Speaker 5>Nah, not for her, not for her, not for sis this.

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<v Speaker 5>These people are they trying to put us on there?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, but you know we're present day threats.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, before we get to the present day threats, of

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<v Speaker 1>which there are many, we have another viewer question.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's roll at.

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<v Speaker 9>Native's Land podcast. Let me make sure I get the

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<v Speaker 9>name right so Angela does not chew me up again.

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<v Speaker 9>And also number two, she chewed me up last time

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<v Speaker 9>because I have a baby in the background, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>running around in the van while I needed to get

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<v Speaker 9>this video out. But my name is Tiana, and I'm

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<v Speaker 9>from Pittsburgh, and I love that Tiffany and Andrew mentions

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<v Speaker 9>Game of Thrones. I'm a huge Game of Thrones fan

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<v Speaker 9>and that makes me wonder too sometimes while I'm watching it.

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<v Speaker 9>It's the current administration under Queen Circe or King Jeoffrey.

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<v Speaker 9>I know for sure though they're Lanisters. Those are Lanisters

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<v Speaker 9>in the office.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to know.

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<v Speaker 9>Your thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Lighting it up a little bit, peace and have a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 5>Day, y'all.

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<v Speaker 9>I love.

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<v Speaker 5>Did I really yell at her about having.

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<v Speaker 4>Her in the driver seat? It looked like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but can I can?

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<v Speaker 1>I just say, I want to make this very clear,

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<v Speaker 1>none of us are ever like chewing anybody out for

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<v Speaker 1>real real, It's all love. It's like when you go

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<v Speaker 1>to a family reunion and you, you know, played a

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<v Speaker 1>dozens like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel okay, all right, I'm still mad.

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<v Speaker 5>At the guy from saying Angela miss crossed. Do you

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<v Speaker 5>know people were doing that to me?

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<v Speaker 1>At essence, I just thought, I really did think he

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<v Speaker 1>felt familiar.

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<v Speaker 8>With people thought it was funny, and they sided with me.

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<v Speaker 4>Tip.

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<v Speaker 5>They were like, hey, where's miss crossing? They thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was so funny.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I took it as he felt close enough to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh to use your first name. What people use your

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<v Speaker 4>first name is usually out of familiar I want us all.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a saying that either we are on the

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<v Speaker 5>first name basis or we all miss or miss. That's

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<v Speaker 5>how I feel about it. I'm never chewing out. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>never chewing anybody out about kids. I'm saying this part

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<v Speaker 5>because I don't know nothing about Game of Thrones, so

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<v Speaker 5>let me take my moment on this. I'm never chowing

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<v Speaker 5>anybody else about your children. We welcome the kids. You

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<v Speaker 5>can have your kids on the thing to say hello,

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<v Speaker 5>we love the kids. Tiff loves the kids, and she

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<v Speaker 5>loves the dogs. Andrew loves the kids. Wait, wait, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 5>Andrew does not love the cats, but he loves you know.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't know what that's about, go back some episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back and watch the awkward moment episode, especially for.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't watch this is not one for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we remember the name of that episode. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the name of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it was Community Peen. I know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, tis only only fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Angela said that on the show. She said, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we were about to hear some to be porn. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all can go back and find that episode.

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<v Speaker 3>AnyWho.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because angel doesn't watch Game of Thrones, I we

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<v Speaker 1>will make this brief. I so I disagree Tiana with

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<v Speaker 1>the choices that she gave. I think they are not

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<v Speaker 1>Lantis because you know, you remember that each show you thought,

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<v Speaker 1>man like, these are the worst.

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<v Speaker 4>People were always the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, well, hear me out. Thirsey Lanister was awful. She

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<v Speaker 1>birth king Jeoffrey. Jeoffrey Lanister was awful, and you just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how could I hate these people more? And

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<v Speaker 1>then we met Ramsey Bolton. So I'm gonna say the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration is Ramsey Bolton on steroids. They were methodical,

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<v Speaker 1>and how they broke down theon gray Joy and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is the equivalent of what we're seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration due to our society right now, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>have him up on the thing, you know, where they

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<v Speaker 1>had him like stretched out, Like that's what it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the Trump administration is doing to our society. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say they're Lanister is just for the subtext of incests.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this very weird lust that this president seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have for his own daughter. People forget about that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been so much mess. So that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>would say they're like the Lanisters, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>their cruelty and the imagination of their cruelty, on their

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<v Speaker 1>sub human treatment of people that we've seen from the

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<v Speaker 1>iced deportations to these concentration camps that they're building, to

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<v Speaker 1>how they're how the Big Beautiful Bill is going to

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<v Speaker 1>impact people with their medicine and medicaid. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>they are the scum of Winterfell. Uh, the North remembers

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<v Speaker 1>will always remember, So I say they're Ramsey Bolton. And

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<v Speaker 1>I invite Angela to Binge because it is an interesting show.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll yeah, I like you did something creative there, But

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<v Speaker 4>she did say keep it light for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if there's a lot of parallels.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, there are there are, I'm gonna take a slight exception.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think at the core there are lanisters, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think there is a thread that runs through particularly Circe,

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<v Speaker 4>but her Daddy, Circe and Jeoffrey I think are the

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<v Speaker 4>three worst of the Lanisters. I'm gonna push this one

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<v Speaker 4>and say, Queen Denaris last episode crazy hit and in

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<v Speaker 4>the sense that they took to fire and burned it

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<v Speaker 4>all down, like it's not just one, that the enemy

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<v Speaker 4>is not one, right, like she she could have had

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<v Speaker 4>the enemy as one if the intention was simply to

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<v Speaker 4>take out the castle, right, but when they really took

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<v Speaker 4>stock of it and sat into themselves, when she set

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<v Speaker 4>into who she is, just as the Trumps, now that

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<v Speaker 4>he knows who he is, what he's gotta do the

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<v Speaker 4>second Trump two point zero. The man took fire to everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody's in the receiving end right now, innocent poor

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<v Speaker 4>middle rich well healed and not healed at all. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sticking with.

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<v Speaker 3>It, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Such an issue with this that I have to just correct.

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<v Speaker 4>She went crazy. I'm sorry, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, at the time when I saw it, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell, Like de Naris has gone crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you I've since revisited because I think her

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<v Speaker 1>entire point was and I think there's a parallel here.

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<v Speaker 3>In DC.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some innocent people, there are some good people.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm trying to eradicate evil, and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can eradicate evil slowly over time, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>just blow this bitch up in one fell Jakaris, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm choosing, Like I might think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to make an omelet, you gotta crack

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<v Speaker 1>some eggs. And so now seeing the Trump administration, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>since seeing what they're doing, I do kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>understand her more because it was like I to leave

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<v Speaker 1>you all. It's like Trump can die, but trump Ism

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<v Speaker 1>will live, and so you still have like all these

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<v Speaker 1>young people who adopt his ideology. You still have all

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<v Speaker 1>of these people across America. Everybody's like, oh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the election was stolen. I hope so, because I if

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't, then that means there are nearly one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million people in this country who supports what this man

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<v Speaker 1>is doing. And so I do kind of understand when

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<v Speaker 1>she said, you know what, and they were telling her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was looking down at all the people, like

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<v Speaker 1>some of y'all rock with me, but most of y'all

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<v Speaker 1>don't your card and burned everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're taking it to mean that she used the

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<v Speaker 4>fire to eliminate evil, And I'm suggesting she she used.

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<v Speaker 1>The fire to eliminate the people who were not loyal

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<v Speaker 1>to her. So her reasoning may have been.

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<v Speaker 4>Bad, right, And by the way, should leaders look for

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<v Speaker 4>people who are loyal to them or people who are

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<v Speaker 4>loyal to the larger, greater vision, larger cause, larger. You're right,

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<v Speaker 4>and so way, and the Trumps are in parallel alignment

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<v Speaker 4>in the sense that what they were looking for was

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<v Speaker 4>feilty to the individual. Denarius at the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>day wanted filty to her. And at different points we

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<v Speaker 4>saw different parts of her where it seemed that she was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, for the greater good, the greaterst good, for

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest number. And then I think is she got

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<v Speaker 4>again closer to the throne and more healed in her seat.

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<v Speaker 4>The real true Uh style of leadership came forward and

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<v Speaker 4>I think Trumps are the same way, and their fire

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<v Speaker 4>is not to eliminate the the enemies. Their fire is

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<v Speaker 4>to eliminate anyone who would stand in their way. All

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<v Speaker 4>the institutional structures that are built to hold them accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to extinguish them. And so I'm Queen de nerus.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, I will leave it to the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all let us know, because one thing I do miss

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<v Speaker 1>is after every episode the Game of Thrones, all the

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<v Speaker 1>black people.

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<v Speaker 4>With them thrones.

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<v Speaker 1>Them thrones was the best thing that ever happened to

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<v Speaker 1>us as a community. So I am reigniting them thrones.

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<v Speaker 1>Jakaris setting fire to this discussion. Audience, do you all

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<v Speaker 1>tell us who are the trumpministration? Did you agree with

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<v Speaker 1>denars Uh and the way that she handled it? Did

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<v Speaker 1>we support John Snow of taking out Denares And if anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>if any one of you all hits me with spoilers,

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<v Speaker 1>please no spoilers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna clown you so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, this show is like ten years old now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't really respect you binge watchers because we

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<v Speaker 1>had to suffer through each week after the we had

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<v Speaker 1>one wait seven days, right, But if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>binge watch and ketch up Antel has already shook her head. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but if some of y'all want to binge watch Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>you I promise you will not.

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<v Speaker 3>You will not reguise.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem that you have for me is I do

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<v Speaker 5>not like blood and gore and the one that I

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<v Speaker 5>saw somebody got castrated. Yes, I don't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so every episode is not blood and gore.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's the thing. If you could tell me which

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<v Speaker 5>ones to avoid, oh lord, if you tell me which

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<v Speaker 5>ones to avoid, I'm down. But if you can't, I

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<v Speaker 5>just know it all like Sinners, I had to keep

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<v Speaker 5>looking like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was that you took this g O t this

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<v Speaker 4>got real series with I was going to be real

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<v Speaker 4>lighting you like, nah, this is it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there are so many parallels in the series.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're moving on.

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<v Speaker 3>We're moving on. We're moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>When when, if, and when Angela beingjwack is we can

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<v Speaker 1>revisit this conversation, but I definitely want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Hear the thoughts from you. Okay, okay, just feel like

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<v Speaker 5>my foreign policy lessons.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well let's get domestic and if I.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, everybody. We'll be right back after we pay some bills.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that we're gonna try to revisit this.

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<v Speaker 4>We will revisit this topic around housing. But I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know about you and Tiff and Angela, but from friendship

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<v Speaker 4>circles or extended friendship circles to reading articles, people constantly

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<v Speaker 4>talking about housing availability where they live, whether that's in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 4>in the city proper that is going through its own

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<v Speaker 4>regentrification and a mass exodus of people who have always

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<v Speaker 4>lived in the urban core now having to try to

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<v Speaker 4>find a place that they can afford outside the urban center,

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<v Speaker 4>which again creates multiples of problems. Angela, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if you've seen the Seattle data on affordability of housing,

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<v Speaker 4>but some of our most prosperous cities in the country

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<v Speaker 4>are also where we're finding the greatest exacerbation of the

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<v Speaker 4>lack of affordable owners home ownership as well as rental.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's really problematic about this is I think America

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<v Speaker 4>by and large has had this idea that the people

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<v Speaker 4>who are without a home are the ones who deserve

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<v Speaker 4>to be without a home. They're the people who are

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<v Speaker 4>addicted somehow, They're the people who don't work and are

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<v Speaker 4>basically waiting for the government to take care of them.

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<v Speaker 4>But undeserving folks, right, I take exception with that. I

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<v Speaker 4>think housing is a human right and everybody should be housed,

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<v Speaker 4>and we ought to have policy directed toward making sure

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<v Speaker 4>that we've got folks who are housed. But people do

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<v Speaker 4>make convenient places in their mind where they think it's

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<v Speaker 4>okay for people to be without a home. And now

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<v Speaker 4>what we're seeing is that people who are getting up

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<v Speaker 4>every day and going to work a job, people with children,

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<v Speaker 4>married couples who together pooling their resources, still are not

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<v Speaker 4>able to afford to live in and in many of

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<v Speaker 4>these cities. And what I'd love for us to explore

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<v Speaker 4>and and and delving further into this one is what

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<v Speaker 4>are our listeners experiencing. I'd love to hear wherever you

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<v Speaker 4>are in the country, o' good enough. I was surprised Alabama,

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<v Speaker 4>Lower Alabama UH is experiencing its issues around housing affordability.

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<v Speaker 4>Who would have ever thought, right, And no offense to anybody,

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<v Speaker 4>but just knowing, you know, having relatives there and visiting

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<v Speaker 4>that just wasn't That wouldn't have been my first guest.

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<v Speaker 4>But wherever you are around the country. If you've got

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<v Speaker 4>experiences that you want to share, make a video express

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<v Speaker 4>what the conditions seem to be like, what you think

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<v Speaker 4>are contributories to the issue. We'd love to hear from

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<v Speaker 4>you here at Native Lampid and then try to get

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<v Speaker 4>to some of the reasons why. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 4>with the with the rise of all of these equity

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<v Speaker 4>uh firms that are basically pulling a non less money,

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<v Speaker 4>to include a lot of that anonymous money coming from

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<v Speaker 4>people's pension funds that are being invested on Wall Street,

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<v Speaker 4>much of the housing market right now has been taken

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<v Speaker 4>over by by these by these very discreete almost anonymous

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<v Speaker 4>funding sources that are buying it up. And they have

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<v Speaker 4>no relationship to the cities, no relationship to the community,

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<v Speaker 4>no care for anything other than getting their money. And

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<v Speaker 4>if that means expelling you, putting you and your kids

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<v Speaker 4>out because you're late two days with the rent, they'll

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<v Speaker 4>do it. So I think, y'all, I know you both

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<v Speaker 4>are in cities that probably experienced this u DC tiffany

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<v Speaker 4>that again some of the highest incomes in the region,

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<v Speaker 4>but also one of the most extreme divides between those

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<v Speaker 4>who have and those who have not even in my

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<v Speaker 4>own city, y'all. I will testify that we have our

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<v Speaker 4>own issues, Florida being one of the top three places

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<v Speaker 4>where you cannot afford to live, whether it's rental or

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<v Speaker 4>buying a home. And I'll tell you, for our our community,

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest transfers of wealth for us has largely been

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<v Speaker 4>between the passing of our real estate, our homes that

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<v Speaker 4>we've owned and poured into. When I was on tribe,

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<v Speaker 4>my uncle called me, who was in real estate himself,

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<v Speaker 4>and said, son, I know this legal bill is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a lot, but the last thing you can

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<v Speaker 4>consider it, in fact, you cannot consider it at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's taking out another mortgage on your home or putting

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<v Speaker 4>your house up in any way, shape or form. That

0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 4>is for you, that is for your family, that is

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<v Speaker 4>for your kids, And the fact that people don't have

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<v Speaker 4>that to look forward to increasingly in our country is

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<v Speaker 4>very problematic, but especially for our community.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I have to be honest with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>There are parts of adulting that I do really well

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<v Speaker 1>and there are parts that I don't. And when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to home ownership, that's probably one. I bought my

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<v Speaker 1>first house when I was twenty seven. I really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a home by the time I was thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what we were told, that's the American dream,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how you wealth build. Unfortunately, I bought this

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<v Speaker 1>house at the height of the house crisis in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven, and ten years later I found myself

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<v Speaker 1>underwater in my mortgage. I was living far out, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I used to live far out. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>like way out Silver Spring, not downtown Silver Spring, but

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<v Speaker 1>way out Silver Spring. But I remember when you had

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<v Speaker 1>your house out that like townhouse. I remember head to

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<v Speaker 1>get thirtieth birthday party there. And but my point is

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<v Speaker 1>none of us were living in the city, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the hot area, and I just hated being out there.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole life was in the city, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>this incredibly tortuous commute. I was spending three hours each day,

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.399
<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half in traffic going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>And one day I blew up my entire life and

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<v Speaker 1>I just came home and said, I don't live here anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And I called my realtor and explained to her, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, well, someone's feelings is going to get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>in this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be yours or it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the banks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I said, the bank so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give it, Damn the bank. I'm standing out

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<v Speaker 1>here miserable for these three little numbers, and now ten

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<v Speaker 1>years have coming gone, and I think about what people

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>have gone through, what the housing crisis did to black

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>wealth in this country, and we never really corrected for it.

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>And this was on top of decades of redlining and

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 1>housing policy that just you know, decimated our chance at

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>this American dream. So I'm not an expert here. I

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>really hoped of viewers take you up on that, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>and send in your stories, because our friend Latasha Angela

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>went through similar things looking for a house in Atlanta.

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>People here in New York are offering, you know, two

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand over the asking price just to be able

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to afford a place. I didn't even know what was

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 1>going on in Seattle. So this seems to be something

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that's happened that's affect impacting all regions of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll have more questions for you guys about it

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>than I do answers. But I wanted to get a

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>little testimony just so y'all can be encouraged. Don't be

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 1>embarrassed by your problems, because I'm telling y'all, I did

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>a short sale on my home and walked away from

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>it in service to my peace, and I haven't regretted

0:23:58.840 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>since at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I I you know, it's funny tip because you

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 5>brought up my thirtieth birthday party. I lived in Boui Bouie, Maryland,

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:13.679
<v Speaker 5>and was so excited to buy my first house and

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to do it also by the time I

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 5>was thirty, So how I celebrated my birthday was with

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 5>that house. And what is so crazy is, you know,

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 5>people talk often about financial literacy being something that we

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 5>really need, but one of the things we learned on

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 5>the tour is that even when you're financially literate and

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 5>you do have all the tools, if you still don't

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 5>have the resources, your literacy means nothing because you don't

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 5>have the capability or the capacity to do the things

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 5>that you need to do. I, however, was both financially

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 5>ignorant and didn't have all the capacity because I was

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 5>working on the hill. I had a lot of tools

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 5>that a lot of folks didn't have, Like you know,

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 5>the Congressional Federal credit Union.

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I had.

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 5>Ways that I could borrow against my retirement, which is

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 5>part of the reason why what happened with Maryland was

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 5>so inflammatory to me. But I did those things and

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 5>then still now found myself kind of house poor because

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't making enough money to pay for the mortgage,

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 5>didn't realize all the HOA fees. There was some other

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 5>like random ass water feed five thousand dollars that they

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 5>would pop up every now and then, and I got

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 5>to the point where I was also really frustrated living

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 5>in the house. I got a loan modification because on

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 5>the hill you get exposed to these things because banks

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.719
<v Speaker 5>wanted to release you know, members and their staff and like,

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 5>even though it was supposed to be further constituents. I

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 5>was like, let me tell you something real quick, I

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 5>actually need one of these too, And so I got

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 5>my loan modified, and I felt myself really resenting my

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 5>realtor and the person who structured my bank loan, because

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 5>there were a lot of things they did that weren't helpful.

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 5>The realtor and the lender were married, and so they

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 5>did what was necessary, yeah, to help each other, but

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 5>not necessarily to help me. So again this is where

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 5>literacy meets lack of resource. I'm trusting who's right there

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 5>because I'm like, well, I just know I need to

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 5>hurry up and close on this house. Saying all that

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 5>to say, I wish that somebody would have told me

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 5>that the only way that there's more than one way

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 5>to reach the American dream. And some of that is

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 5>by eliminating debt, not creating new debt. Some of that

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 5>might be investing in different things in your furro one

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 5>k and putting more money in there. Like what I've

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 5>learned over the last couple of years. You know, my

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 5>furro one k has almost tripled its value having the

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 5>right broker, the right financial advisor. So there are all

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 5>these things that I've learned from trial and error. All

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 5>I would ask, just like Tiff just did, is please

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 5>learn from the words of my testimony, so you do

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 5>not dare repeat these things at home. And if you

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 5>find yourself I'm in a situation where desperation has come in,

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 5>or where your hard hit, or where you don't know

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 5>how you're gonna make ends meet, please don't be afraid

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 5>to speak up, because you will be astonished by the

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 5>number of people who are in the exact same situation

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 5>and trying to figure out how to pay rent or

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 5>how to try to figure out how to pay the

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 5>mortgage and that h o a fee, trying to figure

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 5>out what we'll suffer trying to pay tax that on

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 5>top of that, you got to lean on your house.

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 5>I had that too, right, So there are all of

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 5>these things that come up and we don't know how

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 5>to get out of it because we haven't learned the

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 5>different tools to use to apply them in the process.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 5>That's it, rent is too damn high and then fix it.

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Across the country and.

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>A protections and it's interesting guests coming up. Has also

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>dealt with housing uh insecurity and actually impacted her health

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>living in substandard housing when she was growing up to

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>get asthma.

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 3>And yes I did learn this by Google stalking her.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:48.880
<v Speaker 5>Call it stocking.

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't go anywhere, guys, because on the other side of

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>this break, we're going to bring in an amazing guest,

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Booker Houston.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to miss this, y'all.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 7>Think my husband will buy me when they get Brother

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 7>of the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 5>Of Okay, everybody, we are thrilled to be joined by

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 5>the good sister Elizabeth Booker Houston. She is a stand

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 5>up comedian. She is an attorney. She is a mama,

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 5>she is a wife. She is Trump's arc enemy, and

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 5>she also works for her man steal in the administration.

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how she keeps her day job, but

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 5>she keeps her day job. I'm gonna remind him every day.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 5>She's the biggest forget bone thugs in harmony. We got

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 5>Elizabeth Booker Houston thugs in harmony, and she is making

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 5>it happen every single day on social telling us what

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:55.719
<v Speaker 5>it is, debunking misinformation, and she does it with the smile,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 5>with brilliant and with zest. Y'all can't even stand this. Elizabeth,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 5>thank you for joining us.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 7>Well, thanks y'all, thank you for having me. It's nice

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 7>to see you again. Andrew and Angela and Tiffany. We

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 7>did not get to meet last time, but I know

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm excited to talk to you.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 4>She missed a flight.

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 5>She was Tiffany, remember Andrew, she was Tiffany.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 4>And Jael got canceled. I know I was saying Tiffany

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 4>got canceled, so I hate that I haven't.

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But I will tell you I am familiar with your work, Elizabeth,

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and I.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Love what you're doing.

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I say this on the show Alis, so angel has

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>heard this before. But I just I have a level

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>set respect for people who went to law school because

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone I know anyway who went to law

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>school has a different way of thinking.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 3>It seems to be more linear.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>It's also more concise, like you know, bullet pointed for me,

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and I always tell young people like, yeah, go to

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>law school because you don't have to be a trial attorney.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to you know, practice law at a firm.

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>There are so many careers. You can be a policy

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>person and you can also be a stand up comedian.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>But I will say the whole right now, the whole

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>idea and concept of being in law school in America

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to learn a constitution that we are understanding is pretty

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>much meaningless going forward.

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Has I think put some question marks on a lot

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>of us.

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>So you and Angela both went to law school. I'm

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>just I don't even know if I have a question.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not what that even means these things.

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to tell you. It's a struggle because I'm

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 7>also a law professor, so having to teach my students,

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, I just I told my two l's and

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 7>three l's this past semester. I was just like, I'm

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 7>so sorry the y'all are still in these unprecedented times,

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 7>because it just seemed like every week whatever I had

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 7>to teach them did not apply. There's this Supreme Court

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 7>case called Chevron, because I focus on administrative law and

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 7>food and drug law. Like you said, there's a lot

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 7>of different ways to be a lawyer. I don't practice.

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 7>I did a hot minute in court and I did well,

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 7>but I was crying all the time. So I was like,

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 7>this is not for me. So I came to DC

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 7>as a regulatory council in the FDA as a fellow

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 7>under that man in the White House back in twenty seventeen,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 7>and I teach a lot of administrative law and Chevron

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 7>was like the big case for forty years. Yeah, and

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 7>it got overturned last summer. So I didn't know what

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 7>to do with my whole first two lessons for the

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 7>semester because I'm like, I don't know what I have

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 7>for y'all. So it's just been really very much trying

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 7>to keep up with what's going on and flying by

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 7>the seat of my pants. A lot of times.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, because you brought up the Chevron case, can you

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>just give us a quick breakdown of that. This was

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>a huge blow to environmentalists. I remember our friend Van Newkirk,

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a writer with The Atlantic, was covering this case. I

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>could attempt to give a breakdown, but you'd probably do

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>it a lot better.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 7>I can try, so. Chevron deference basically said that administrative

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 7>agencies that's the FDA, the CDC, the NIH, all of

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 7>these federal agencies that are under the executive branch, but

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 7>they're given their authority from Congress.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:31:55.920 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 7>They said that if they are interpreting an ambiguous statue,

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 7>so the Food and Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, that's

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 7>what gives the FDA its power. That's the statue that

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 7>created the FDA. That's the authority that the FDA works under.

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 7>If there is something ambiguous in there that has to

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 7>do with, say, regulating tobacco, because that's one of the

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 7>things that FDA has regulatory power over. They have said

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 7>that Chevron difference means that the agency's interpretation gets difference,

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 7>meaning that the court's got to listen to them. And

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 7>it made good sense because the whole reason these agencies

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 7>exist is these are the experts, the scientists, the doctors,

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 7>all the people that Congress is definitely not and so

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 7>that's the whole reason these agencies exist because you know,

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 7>Congress can't pass or the least they shouldn't be passing

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 7>laws and regulations about things they don't understand. Well, the

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 7>Supreme Court overturned that, and it was a big slash

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 7>to agency authority. And that was just step one of everything,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 7>because now we see that this administration is completely completely

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 7>dismantling all of the federal agencies, but the layoffs, the

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 7>mass terminations, all of that. So they're trying to get

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 7>these experts out of So when you talk about environmental

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 7>activists being very concerned, this was a big blow, say

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 7>to the EPA, for example, because it didn't give them

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 7>the dame.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Upheld the Reagan era if he had the Reagan era

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>have the eighties that conservatives celebrated, and it upheld the

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Reagan era interpretation of the Clean Air Act. And as

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you probably will explain, communities of color, Black communities in

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>particular are disproportionately adversely impacted by that.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 7>Yes, we are seeing that with my hometown. I've made

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 7>some videos about it and talked about it. But with

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 7>XAI down in Memphis, Tennessee, where we are seeing violations

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 7>of what would have been I guess at that point

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 7>you would have called it maybe Biden era Clean Air Act,

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 7>because there were regulations passed under his administration. It would

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 7>violate that. And they purposely put this Elon Musk supercomputer

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 7>monstrosity in the middle of the poorest, blackest neighborhood in Memphis, Tennessee,

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 7>and they are violating how we would interpret the Clean

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 7>Air Act under the Biden Harris administration. But as you said,

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 7>we're going back to Reagan era interpretations, and so it's

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 7>a little bit squishy as to whether they will succeed

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 7>in court and fighting against this big, huge machine that

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 7>is polluting the air, in the water in the area.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 5>Can you talk a little bit about that too, Elizabeth.

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 5>I think it's been fascinating just to see I don't

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 5>have as many ties to Memphis as you do, but

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 5>it's certainly become a place that has touched my heart,

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 5>has become near and dear to me. There's a group

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 5>of activists there called the Squad. Shout out to Tammy Keidrin,

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 5>Earle Andre and others who have always had the conscience

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 5>of the community at heart, and it's been as amazing

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 5>to me. We finally got this white Dixiecraft mayor out.

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 5>There's a black mayor who has sided with Elon Musk

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 5>on this supercomputer on XAI, despite the fact that it

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 5>is very clear that there the emissions being let out

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 5>from this this entity are causing great harm to the

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 5>surrounding communities. How is he justifying that and how should

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 5>the community hold him accountable and responsible for that? And

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 5>what's the point if we got black elected divisions, if

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 5>they're not gonna do right by black people, don't even

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 5>get me.

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 7>Start out, Mayorpleso, that's it.

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 5>Start start, start, start, how he start?

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 7>That's the one. Mayor Paul Young, Lord Jesus, you know,

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 7>I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 7>think he actually cares about those black communities. I don't

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 7>really think he cares that much about Memphis. I think

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 7>he cares about power. I think he cares about having attention.

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 7>I think he likes having the position of mayor. But

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 7>if he actually cared about these communities, he would definitely

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 7>not be signing with Elon Musk. I think he's trying

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 7>to justify it because of the whole economic advantages to

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 7>the city, which, mind you, this supercomputer only takes about

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 7>thirty people working in that facility to make it go.

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 7>They are not creating jobs. Because people want to make

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 7>comparisons to FedEx, because yes, we have FedEx and Memphis. Yes,

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 7>FedEx has pollution, you know, at similar levels. FedEx also

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 7>employs most of the city. FedEx is also providing services.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 7>It's not perfect. We want to address the environmental impact

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 7>issues of Vetex. But just because there's this one company

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 7>there which is employing a lot of people in the

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 7>city and they have some environmental issues to work on,

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 7>doesn't mean we should just give away our city to

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 7>other big factories. So he's basically trying to say, oh,

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 7>if they build XAI here, then they're going to build

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 7>a whole bunch of other industries here Memphis, which, by

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 7>the way, we don't want that. I grew up in

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 7>South Memphis. That's where I was originally from when I

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 7>was born, and I have a ton of health issues

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 7>to this day because of growing up in that part

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 7>of the city. I actually got to meet Mayor Brandon

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 7>Scott at essence best Mayor of Baltimore, and I looked

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 7>at him and I said, can you can you go talk?

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 7>Oh, y'all, can you go maybe to Memphis and maybe

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 7>talk to him about how to be a mayor of

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 7>a black city because he's missing the mark. So I

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 7>don't know, maybe I was petty, but.

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 4>No, we talked, you know, we talked earlier about I'm

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 4>actually really glad that we're spending a little bit of

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 4>time on some of these issues that show up for

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 4>people every day in there, and they're local communities. As

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 4>a former mayor myself, you know, even when I visit places,

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at medians and how they're maintained. I'm looking,

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, paying attention to the roads and how they're

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 4>being treated, and obviously the things like water and water quality.

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 4>But housing topic we address a little bit earlier in

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 4>the show is probably one of the greatest undersung, under

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 4>voiced issues confronting Americans. The majority, I've got to say,

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 4>the majority of us. If you're not in a rural

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 4>place that may be experiencing some depopulation issues, maybe you're

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 4>in you know, just a regular city town in anywhere

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 4>America where even there, if you're an aging person you're

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 4>not able to find independent living that is at your

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:50.879
<v Speaker 4>price point, and you certainly aren't able to get into

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 4>assistant living facilities without the help of your Medicare and

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 4>probably other supplemental insurance to be able to afford that right.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 4>If you are young person who believes that the American

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:03.879
<v Speaker 4>dream is one day being able to own a home,

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 4>if you are like the three of us hosts before

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 4>the age of thirty, you know that dream is extinguished

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 4>for many people. I'm curious, just based off your policy experience,

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 4>obviously your care and love for the city that you're from,

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 4>but for cities, for localities, how did we get to frankly,

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 4>World War two, post World War two levels of housing unaffordability,

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 4>and of course the World War two crisis driven by

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 4>the fact that we had soldiers returning who you know,

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 4>had unpresident in numbers who just didn't have housing. How

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 4>do we go from that to here today? No real

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 4>explainable reason. How it is that housing is so unaccessible

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 4>for people.

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 7>Well, instead of looking at it as a human right,

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 7>we treated it as a commodity. I mean, that's what

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 7>it comes down to, is about making money. And you're

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 7>talking to the right person because when I said I

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 7>spent a hot minute in court, I took some lords

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 7>to court. That's actually what I used to do. I

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 7>worked in the Medical Legal Partnership Clinic in Labonnar Children's Hospital, Memphis, Tennessee.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 7>And how that worked is the doctors, the nurses, everybody

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 7>would be treating these children coming in with issues after

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 7>issue after issue, but we would find that they're not

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 7>going to get healthier. They're taking the medicine as they should,

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 7>they're going to the doctors they should, but there's a

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 7>legal need and underlying legal need that the doctors cannot handle.

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 7>And so that's when we would come in and provide

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 7>promono legal services. And oftentimes that was me taking slum

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 7>lords to court so they could get out of these

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 7>leases and get into some safe, you know, actual good housing,

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 7>or to force the slumblards to clean up the vice

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 7>because it was just keeping these kids sick, and we

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 7>just we treat housing as another product rather than understanding

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 7>that it is the place that's supposed to be where

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 7>children and families and individuals are safe, where they could

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 7>be healthy, or they could be sheltered from the weather,

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 7>where they can make sure they have somewhere to go

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 7>lay their heads at night and not worry about, you know,

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 7>the elements outside or elements coming inside. And that shift

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 7>in thinking about property, I mean, we see it all

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 7>the time. There's Netflix shows about real estate moguls, you know,

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 7>and about how many millions of dollars they can get

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 7>in all their commissions for selling houses. That's how we've

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 7>looked at this. We're looking at it as if this

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 7>is a want and not a need for every single individual.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.720
<v Speaker 7>And that shift in thinking, this idea that not everybody

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 7>deserves a home, but a home is something you're supposed to,

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, basically kill yourself trying to get that,

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 7>I think has been the biggest attack. I'm making sure

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 7>that people have affordable housing. And y'all were all talking

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 7>about buying your first home. And I remember I was

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 7>not under thirty, but I was thirty one when I

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 7>bought my first home, and my husband was a stay

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 7>at home dad at the time, so even though I

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:35.919
<v Speaker 7>was married, I bought the home completely in my name,

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 7>so the mortgage was just in my name, even as

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 7>a married woman. And that was such a big deal

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 7>because my dad didn't buy his first house until he

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 7>was almost in his fifties, and so he was really

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 7>proud that I was able to do that, but there

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 7>were so many barriers to get there. I was going

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 7>through a first time home buyer's program, and it became

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 7>apparent to me after the fact that they were being

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 7>very discriminatory against me when I was buying the song,

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 7>because days before closing, they told me, oh, we can't

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 7>move forward unless you have an entire year's mortgage payments

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 7>and arrears after the down payment, after the closing, cause

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 7>you need to have twelve months of your mortgage payment.

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 7>And I happened to be a little savior at the time,

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 7>and I was very fortunate to be able to save

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 7>the money, and I said, okay, no problem, and the

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 7>way the finance person on the phone went oh oh oh.

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 7>I was like, yeah, I can send you bank sayments. Sure,

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 7>I have another account with that money in there, and

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.720
<v Speaker 7>it was like they were shocked. So there's the discriminatory

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 7>aspect to it too. So when we talked about the

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 7>housing situation, we're talking about redlining, we're talking about discriminatory practices.

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 7>I remember looking at the application for my financing and

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 7>they marked the races black and it said, how did

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 7>you find this information? And it says social media? Because

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 7>I had never seen these people in person. I had

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 7>only talked on the phone and gone over email. I

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 7>thought that was crazy because this was still in that

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 7>kind of COVID times. I had a little baby, like,

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, so I wasn't out there meeting up with

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 7>people in person or anything. It was just on the

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 7>phone and over email. And they treated me very funny,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 7>especially being a black woman who is married to and

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 7>I'm married to a white man, but a black woman

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 7>who was buying the house completely in her name. It

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 7>was like it bothered them for some reason.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Bet. Yeah, but it's funny. What's interesting in that story

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 4>is both you and Angela mentioned the trust around the

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 4>banking piece. You know that they you know, these instruments

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 4>that they tell you about and the stuff that they

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, very conveniently omit these conditions that again get

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 4>added by the bank to add comfortability to their lending,

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 4>so to speak. But these are also the same people

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 4>who took families who lived in homes for thirty forty years,

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 4>who never missed a mortgage payment whatsoever, who went to

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:57.919
<v Speaker 4>those same black families presenting a better option for them

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:02.760
<v Speaker 4>repackaging their loans and turn their situation completely upside down.

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the untold story I feel about the

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 4>housing crisis is the one that we've been fed, is

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 4>that there were a lot of people who were unqualified

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 4>getting access to houses that they shouldn't have ever had

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 4>and could never have afforded. Not true. Overwhelmingly, the crisis

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 4>in the housing industry was bought on by greedy banks,

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 4>with greedy incentivized negatively or positively for them, but negatively

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 4>for the rest of us. Incentivized to package these things

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 4>repackage was what were otherwise stable loans and to now

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 4>unstable loans that looked good for a couple of years,

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 4>and then the bottom falls out and put a whole

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 4>generation of folks into a tail spin and eliminated untold

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 4>wealth in this country overnight. But it wasn't individuals who

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:55.280
<v Speaker 4>were uneducated or didn't know enough about what they were doing.

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 4>Y'all knew what we knew what we needed to know

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 4>at the time to accomplish the goal that yet set

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 4>for ourselves. We didn't expect, however, on the other side,

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 4>to meet an untrusting partner who was only interested and

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 4>their incentivized bottom line, the bonuses that they could get

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 4>by basically duping us into situations that were untenable. And

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 4>they all knew it, yet they were complicit. In fact,

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 4>they created it and were complicit with the whole ruse.

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 4>And now we're sitting in a situation where people can't

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 4>afford rents where they live. There's zero protection in most places.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people hear about protections for folks in

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 4>rental units in New York City, but New York City

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 4>is a complete and total exception, and even their rules

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 4>are not perfect. And most communities there's no protection for

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 4>folks who are renting housing, which is the condition that

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of our people find themselves in. And so

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering, given your years, Angela, even your years in DC,

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 4>what does it take for the kind of regulation that's

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 4>necessary in this country to come forth. Because this is

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.919
<v Speaker 4>a bipartisan issue, it's a non part of an issue.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 4>Republicans and Democrats are suffering the saying, how do we

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 4>get the lawmakers? What? What is what has got them

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 4>gripped so much so that they can't unleash themselves to

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 4>be our advocates on housing.

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 5>They can afford need at all.

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>And also, Elizabeth, your your expertise isn't focused on housing

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>but public health.

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 4>And regulationships you focus regulation.

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>You're the intersection of how housing impacts public house.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 7>It's very strong. I actually used to work with an

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 7>organization in Memphis called the Healthy Homes Partnership, and so

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 7>we worked on trying to make sure that the homes

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 7>were safe, were healthy. We don't have enough focus on that,

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 7>and we talk about pricing people out. The worst thing

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 7>about this is we are pricing people out of having safe,

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 7>habitable homes. Like you don't deserve anything but a hovele

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 7>unless you make you know, X amount of money. That

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 7>doesn't make any kind of sense. And we're starting to

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 7>see some shifts. So I'm a Montgomery County, Maryland resident.

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 7>Now I've lived here fram a state year, and I've

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 7>noticed that there have been some shifts to try to

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 7>do things like cap increases in rent. I know Tacoma Park, Maryland,

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 7>is particularly good about this, but Tacoma Park is still

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 7>an expensive place to live. We're still not seeing the

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 7>equity that we need. I would say that being in

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 7>Maryland compared to Tennessee over the last few years, I

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 7>see a higher level of equity than I've seen back home.

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 7>But as you pointed out, Andrew, it's still not to

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 7>the level that we need it to be. It's still

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 7>not where we need it to be. There are still

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 7>homeless people sleeping by the Metro. There's no reason in

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 7>this country why anybody should be homeless. It makes no

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 7>sense to me why anybody is unhoused anywhere in this country.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 7>We have too much money, we have empty homes, we

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 7>have empty apartments. There's no reason except again to treat

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 7>this as a commodity and try to use it as

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 7>a form of conspicuous consumption. And a lot of it

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 7>comes down to that conspicuous consumption. I got to look

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 7>like I have something, And not only do I have

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 7>to look like I have something, but I have to

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 7>make sure that you don't have something so I can

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 7>feel good about myself. And that's what we've been doing.

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 7>And I've also been on a ti rate about multigenerational housing.

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 7>I purchased a multiti generational home in December. My husband

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 7>and I we're very happy to do this. It has

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 7>multiple little living situations going on. And my aunt, who

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 7>is seventy, she is retired. She is living in the

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 7>guest house of the home, and it has a walk

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 7>out basement apartment, so when the time comes to my

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 7>parents can live in the home. And right now my

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 7>best friend is there. It was my child's godmother, and

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 7>she's helping out with things like childcare. White supremacy has

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 7>done such a number on taking this concept of multigenerational

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 7>living and intergenerational living and treating it as a failure

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 7>and that you have to follow this rugged individualism and

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 7>have a nuclear family and one home for your family,

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 7>and if you don't have that, you are a failure,

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 7>rather than understanding that you bring your family together and

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 7>you pull resources to be safe, live together and help

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 7>each other out. And again, I know that's really a

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 7>policy point, but I feel like we need a shift

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 7>in that cultural thinking of understanding that this kind of

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 7>living does not actually work, especially someone who has birthed

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 7>and is now raising a child. We should not be

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 7>alone postpartum raising these.

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 4>Kids, none of us.

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:02.800
<v Speaker 3>It's very American.

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was going to ask, and I'm switching gears

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 5>quite a bit, but I know that you've experienced this

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 5>for all of us as show hosts, as content creators.

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 5>In many ways, podcast hosts. Tiff is of course a

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 5>former TV host and I know that will change again

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 5>soon and she'll be back on air. But I want

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 5>to ask you what drove you into the content creation

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.720
<v Speaker 5>space and what gaps were you feeling? Right? Like normally

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 5>when we go in to do these things, there's a

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 5>passion that is leading us. I remember I think it

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 5>was gerald Dee Mariba who wasn't seeing in and was

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 5>recently overprogramming a degree almost like have you heard of her?

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, oh my god, I love her

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 5>because you could dress people down quickly but still very clear.

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, you can understand you, but your mouth is

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 5>going quick, and you could break it all down in

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:56.760
<v Speaker 5>ways that I think you know a lot of people

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 5>respect and for all the people that was mad enough

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 5>to cut you, was doing it all for them, you guys,

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 5>I will tell y'all know I'm a snitch. So I

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 5>saw Elizabeth's daddy and Jackson. I said, how do you

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 5>feel when she cuts? Because my dad went off on

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 5>me a vodcast. He's like, I don't like it, but

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 5>it's okay. So Elizabeth, I would do want to come

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 5>to you on you know, why do you do it?

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.879
<v Speaker 5>And when you're talking to young people about where their

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 5>space is and how to find their lane if they

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 5>are to do content creation, what do you what do

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.280
<v Speaker 5>you advise them?

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 7>Definitely find that space that feels right. And I, you know,

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 7>I go against every single rule when it comes to

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 7>any kind of content cration. I don't post on the schedule.

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.919
<v Speaker 7>I don't stick to one kind of thing. My niche

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 7>is basically politics, but that's so varied and wide. And

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 7>then sometimes I'm just cracking jokes, supposed to stand up videos,

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 7>and you know, I feel like that. I know it's

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 7>like running on vibes, you know, the whole generational thing.

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 7>But that's really what it is. Is what feels right,

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.760
<v Speaker 7>What feels right in my spirit. That is what drives

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 7>everything that I do. That's what drove me going to

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 7>law school. That's what drove me getting my master's and

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 7>being a scientist. At one point I had started my

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 7>law career, so I don't want to go back to

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:04.919
<v Speaker 7>being a scientist because it felt right in the moment,

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 7>and that's what I did. And I know that was

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 7>such a shift, but it was the thing to do.

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 7>And when it came to content creation, what happened is

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.360
<v Speaker 7>there was a global pandemic. I was home with a baby,

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 7>I was on a maternity leave, and I had just

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 7>so happened to be the first JDMPH grad from the

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 7>University of Memphis, and I was trained at the CDC's

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 7>Public Health Law program in epidemics, pandemics, quarantine, isolation law,

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.359
<v Speaker 7>all this stuff. And I told myself, this doesn't feel

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 7>super relevant, and so I had shifted into privacy law.

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 7>And then a whole pandemic happened, and I realized, oh,

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm sitting on a whole bunch of knowledge that not

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 7>a lot of people have at this intersection. Because I

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.400
<v Speaker 7>started having people who were my mentors, who had been

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 7>ten twenty thirty years in the law calling me and saying,

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 7>we know that you are one grad from Memphis who

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 7>understands this. Can you break down this information for us

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.839
<v Speaker 7>and how this works? And so I realized this might

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 7>be useful on a wider scale. And so it started

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 7>off getting on TikTok, just kind of cracking jokes. I

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 7>lost my brother back in twenty seventeen to gun violence,

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 7>and so I've made I do a lot of dark

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 7>humor jokes. I made this little trend we were raiding

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 7>our siblings. I raided it all, all four of my siblings.

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 7>When it got to my brother, I gave before out

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 7>of ten because I said he up and died. And

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 7>you know, that had people laughing because they were like,

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 7>not you rating him low because he died. I said, hey,

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 7>it is what it is, and you know, kind of

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 7>built up a little bit of a following there. But

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 7>I realized, oh, I can actually give people some information too,

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 7>So I started talking about emergency use authorizations on vaccines,

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 7>how the vaccine approval process works, all of this stuff,

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 7>and doing it in a way that was, you know,

0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 7>entertaining for people. And so I think people started to

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 7>appreciate it, and so I just kept doing it. And

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 7>as long as people find what I do useful, I'll

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 7>keep doing it. And when it's not useful anymore, I'll

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 7>go do something else.

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, we love it, and we're grateful to you.

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>We are running out of time, but I want to

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>close with you actually work at the FDA, the Angeli

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 1>pointed out under the Trump administration, the FDA has been

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the focus of a lot of challenges with the lack

0:51:55.239 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 1>of regulation around food safety. Of course, vaccine means so

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you're under rfk's agency. Is there anything that we should know?

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>We don't want you know. We we need somebody in

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>this administration with some sense, So we don't want to

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 1>put you in a bad situation. But what are the

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 1>things that we should be most concerned about given what's happening.

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 7>Well, you can't put me in a bad situation, because

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 7>they send them around the forum the other day asking

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 7>us to snitch about de I, and I submitted and

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 7>said that the whole administration is a bunch of mediocre

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 7>white men. So and caullify the fact that I'm not

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 7>fired every day is insane.

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, Yeah, I got you there.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 1>On the side, and we we haven't met in person, Elizabeth,

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>but I love that I will.

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 4>Protest for you, but I will protest.

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:40.959
<v Speaker 8>For you for you take the strip.

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what they're doing, but I will say this, measles.

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 7>We need to be very, very concerned about measles. We

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 7>have the highest rate of musles in the United States

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 7>that we have had in the past two decades, and

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 7>we need to be very careful and watch very closely

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 7>about what they're doing with dismantling this vaccine board, with

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 7>trying to dismantle vaccine approvals within the FDA. Because the

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:07.760
<v Speaker 7>FDA handles approvals, it's through our biologics, the Center for Biologics,

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 7>that's SBIRD and FDA, and pay close attention to that

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 7>because I feel like it's not getting the coverage it should.

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 7>And we've already seen what happened with COVID having a

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 7>resurgence of diseases that we can prevent preventable communicable illnesses

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 7>come back up, especially when the school year is going

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 7>to start back up next month. Yes, we got to

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 7>be careful. We have to make sure and I know

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 7>in our community especially there's a lot of vaccine hesitancy.

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 7>People have misconceptions about the syphilist childs at Tuskegee. But

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 7>vaccines are safe, they are effective. We need to make

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 7>sure our babies have their MMR vaccines. We need to

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 7>get our teaters and make sure that we are up

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 7>on our MMR vaccines, that our levels are good, to

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 7>make sure we don't need a booster. That would be

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 7>my number one thing that I would say to really

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:50.760
<v Speaker 7>really watch out for. That is the thing that scares

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 7>me the most.

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.240
<v Speaker 4>Can I ask you on the piece. I know we're running.

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 4>But this is this year on the out, which is

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 4>if you need if you've already been inoculated or vaccinated

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 4>as a younger person against measles, is it the case

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 4>that the strand is of a different nature that we're

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 4>experiencing in this cycle, and therefore people previously inoculated not

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 4>need to do something yet.

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 7>But that's the risk. That's the risk, is the spreading

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 7>enough that it mut takes, just like it kept doing

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 7>with COVID. And so that's why I say, also, if

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 7>you've been inoculated before, you need to go get it's

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 7>called a teeter t I tr e. Go get your

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:28.840
<v Speaker 7>teeters checked at the doctor's office to make sure that

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 7>you still have the right back you know, basically the

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 7>levels you need in your body to prevent infection. And

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 7>if those levels are not where they need to be,

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 7>they'll let you know if you need to get another shot.

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 7>And again I always tell people I'm very open about it.

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 7>I have an autistic son. He has five years old.

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 7>He's beautiful, he's amazing, he's fantastic. Vaccines do not cause autism.

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 7>It is genetic. It is also could be hereditary. They

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:51.799
<v Speaker 7>do not cause autism. And I'm gonna tell you right now,

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 7>I'd rather have my living, beautiful, happy, healthy baby boy

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.240
<v Speaker 7>than a child who has died from a preventable illness.

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:58.359
<v Speaker 7>I will tell you that every day.

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Hey man, Well, thank you so much, Elizabeth Booker Houston.

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>You'll have to come back because I feel like we

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>don't even get into the FDA stuff, so we should

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:09.439
<v Speaker 1>have you back really soon. But thank you so much

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 1>for joining us today. And don't go anywhere at home,

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:24.800
<v Speaker 1>because we're going to get into CTA's On the other side.

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that we had Elizabeth Booker Houston on. I

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:31.880
<v Speaker 1>thought that conversation was so helpful, and hopefully the audience

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 1>did too. But it is that time to get to

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.759
<v Speaker 1>calls to action, so let's fire them off.

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 4>You know what. Just in the theme of us talking

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:44.120
<v Speaker 4>about this issue around housing, I would just encourage, encourage,

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 4>encourage people to look local and figure out what are

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 4>some of the reasons why it is that housing seems

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 4>to be so scarce, whether it's rental or affordable. You'll

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 4>learn that many of the culprits on this issue can

0:55:58.160 --> 0:55:59.439
<v Speaker 4>be addressed right where you live.

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 5>And sticking in the financial lane, something that I'm working

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 5>on right now. Because things have changed so much for

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 5>us in this environment. We used to be raking in

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:12.919
<v Speaker 5>speaking engagement money, it's harder. People are trying to ask

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 5>you to come speak for less. Dealing with stuff with

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 5>my mom and helping to manage her care, resources are

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 5>stretched a lot more thin. So I would encourage people

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<v Speaker 5>to one keep me honest to this, but also try

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<v Speaker 5>to keep yourselves honest in this. It's a good time

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<v Speaker 5>to start relooking and re examining your budget. How are

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<v Speaker 5>you spending your money? How much are you spending on food,

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<v Speaker 5>on clothes, on gas, on carb notes. Check to see

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<v Speaker 5>where you can trim the fat, and keep asking yourself

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<v Speaker 5>what do I need? And if it's not something that's needed,

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<v Speaker 5>think about how you can have a treat less. Often

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<v Speaker 5>I need to have a lot less street so I

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<v Speaker 5>can fit my clothes. By the way, but we'll talk

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<v Speaker 5>about them treats next time.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I got three quick ones. One please send the video,

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<v Speaker 1>like Andrew Ass. If you're going through challenges with real

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<v Speaker 1>estate housing, we really want to hear from you, and

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<v Speaker 1>hearing your voices helps add some texture and meet to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. So I'd love to hear your testimony, especially

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 1>since we put our business out there, we would love

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<v Speaker 1>to have somebody all's business.

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<v Speaker 3>Please. And two I just lost my train of thought.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to come to me. Oh survey. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 3>have a survey, and we would love for you all.

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<v Speaker 1>To participate in the survey because that's going to help

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<v Speaker 1>determine the future of NP and we want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we're incorporating your thoughts as well. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you complete it, there are some prizes for you and

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<v Speaker 1>for the person who completes it the fastest, you will

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<v Speaker 1>get Angela Ri's personal cell phone number, which I will

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<v Speaker 1>deliver to you myself. Okay, misinformation, I won't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but please just please complete a survey. Be on the

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<v Speaker 1>lookout for it. We'll let you guys know when that drop.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to give you all a hits up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my last CTA is just my own complaint,

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<v Speaker 1>but I keep saying it and I don't think enough

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<v Speaker 1>people have heard it. Nobody wants to hear your goddamn conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>Please use your ear but at air in public spaces

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<v Speaker 1>because when you when you don't do it, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just start joining in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just start jumping in. I'm gonna just say, wait, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? And if you don't want if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want me to hear anything, get off. Oh I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Stistic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, it is like only get everyone that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, if I'm walking down like the hallway.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate that. I hate that. It's like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>consider it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying not to keep the phone to my ear.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not thinking that they use it. I want to

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<v Speaker 5>ask somebody. But if I can't, like I sometimes now

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<v Speaker 5>I move with just my little you know this tip.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm moving with just this and I don't even have

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<v Speaker 5>my airplane.

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<v Speaker 3>What got me this first?

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<v Speaker 4>So I love it again. Just the people who consider themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I that's how I experience it. It drives me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I'm on a flyer, this one man said, no.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't watch a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's to me, all of it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we don't correct the first social grace, it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps escalating. And so now I ask people like can

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<v Speaker 1>you please use your earbuds? And this man was like

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<v Speaker 1>he was about to watch a movie. He's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>on low. I'm like, it doesn't matter. And he kept

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and I was like, Sarah, I'm asking you

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but I can ask them to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to do it if that's better. And he wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm definitely that person. Excuse me, flight attendant, this

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<v Speaker 1>man right here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, you got a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, I think in any space when I'm walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the street, like, get off your it's just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Walking the street.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, use your earbuds in your privacy of your own home.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, privacy of Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really please, it's really really insane to me that

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<v Speaker 4>this is not an obvious thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is not like to be on a public

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<v Speaker 5>street and I'm walking past I can't be on speaker.

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<v Speaker 4>That's to me that all of it is offensive. But

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<v Speaker 4>but please, we are in this cordant space and for

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<v Speaker 4>some reason you have determined in your mind's eye that

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<v Speaker 4>the whole plane that everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 8>I said that everybody's about the street there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about everybody in the store line. Everybody store too.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with the store, I say, the street.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think you're outside or like in a mall.

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<v Speaker 1>Like never right, it's just if you guys blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah and what y'all think about blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't want no videos about this.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely want videos on this. You guys, send in

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<v Speaker 5>all the comments. I want to hear that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sending a video, y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't wait a minute. Here's the thing, So Tiff can

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<v Speaker 5>have eighty six C t A can't walk down the street.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but y'all appropriated time for her to have five one.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a call to action, but you.

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<v Speaker 4>And your conversation with everybody under the sign and while.

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<v Speaker 5>Walking we're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my CTA was really part of y'all CTA. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>giving Angela CTA. Send in your comments about what y'all

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<v Speaker 1>think about being on speakerphone, Andrew ct A sending your

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<v Speaker 1>videos and my c in the group ct A for

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<v Speaker 1>complete the surveys.

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as always, we do want to remind you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like this conversation, please not only participate in it,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, subscribe, share, spread the word. We really want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep expanding the folks who are a part of

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation, so we encourage you all to help us

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<v Speaker 1>to do that and check out our girl, Jamel Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>who I just love get to be friends with people

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan of, and I just I coseplay Jamail

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm out in these streets. I'll be trying to

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<v Speaker 1>talk sports to these people, and I know I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about, but I just think she's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the coolest people.

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<v Speaker 3>The first submission, I'd like to edit that out of

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell somebody on speaker, but I say things I like.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I repeat what I hear Jamel say.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the show what the hell about?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anyway, my point is check out the shows on

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<v Speaker 1>Reasent Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Jammel Hills on r c M with her show's politics.

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<v Speaker 1>S Cup also has a show Off the Cup, not

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<v Speaker 1>Off the Cuff, but Off the Cups c PP. I

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<v Speaker 1>see what y'all did there, So please sure to check

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<v Speaker 1>on Native lamppod dot com. We are Tiffany Cross, Angela Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all there, are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why we bother to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are four hundred and eighty one days until

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<v Speaker 1>mid term elections. If they back, I'm happy, So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should do the mini pod this week on that

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<v Speaker 1>do y'all wanted to ask?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, check out the mini pot.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get into mid term elections for now, four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty one days until these midterm elections, if

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<v Speaker 1>they happen to happen.

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