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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one
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Speaker 1: gonna break down a year in the life Fall recap.
Speaker 1: I'm joined by partial intrepid crew, but pretty darn intrepid
Speaker 1: in their own right. Suzanne French, Tyre suit, Amy and
Speaker 1: Danielle will be joining us momentarily. And uh, are we
Speaker 1: gonna do a recap? Or you want to just get
Speaker 1: right into this?
Speaker 4: Should we start with overall thoughts?
Speaker 1: Or should we Okay, So I'm going to chime in here.
Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed this. Yeah, I thought that it was
Speaker 1: I always try to look at these as movies and
Speaker 1: not to TV shows. It's an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: It's a whole different structure, as I've said before. And
Speaker 1: I thought Amy did a fantastic job of infusing all
Speaker 1: of her influences, I mean, from Fellini to Fincher. I
Speaker 1: saw her give a nod to so many different directors
Speaker 1: in this film. I thought the Light and Death Brigade
Speaker 1: stuff was magic. I thought the Luke and laurel ized
Speaker 1: stuff was fraught with tension and just great. I thought
Speaker 1: the Jess stuff was great. I thought a lot of it,
Speaker 1: and I thought Alexis was great. I thought the entire
Speaker 1: I thought the story or telling was spot on. I
Speaker 1: think it's really hard and plus it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls at all when it's in a film format,
Speaker 1: because it's taking more time, it's breathing, it's more open.
Speaker 1: You're getting close up of people reacting to things and
Speaker 1: feeling things and emoting things. We can read thoughts without words.
Speaker 1: And then at times it kicks in to our old
Speaker 1: familiar Gilmour banter right to bring us back in to it.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yes, this is but so it had
Speaker 1: the DNA, but it also Amy infused it with her
Speaker 1: love of dance, her love of cinema, because she's not
Speaker 1: just a TV gal, right, I mean she's an erudite,
Speaker 1: accomplished consumer of film and literature and anything pop culture obviously,
Speaker 1: and it was all infused into this film. And I
Speaker 1: thought as a film as a romantic comedy or a dramedy,
Speaker 1: it worked on every level and I enjoyed every single
Speaker 1: part of it. Blew me away Blew Me Away could
Speaker 1: have stood alone if they released it as a film,
Speaker 1: like here you go, fans, let's let's release it into
Speaker 1: three thousand theaters. I bet it would have done pretty
Speaker 1: darn well.
Speaker 5: No, and you watched it before, I mean no, you haven't.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I had to do a dr on our
Speaker 1: you know, my big speech in the kitchen with Laura
Speaker 1: when she returns from wilding. So i'd seen that before, Okay,
Speaker 1: but that's pretty much it. I think I did a
Speaker 1: little a dr on the just scene when the when
Speaker 1: the flower broke over me oh h covered flower. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I hadn't seen anything else, and I was I
Speaker 1: was shocked, surprised and delighted by all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean in the first act, I was just like wow, Wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: what an accomplishment. And I was so happy for Amy
Speaker 1: Sherman Palladino because somebody had given her the money and
Speaker 1: the means to make what really, you know, goes on
Speaker 1: in her head in a film makes sense and get
Speaker 1: it up on screen. She had free life, pretty much,
Speaker 1: free license to do what she wanted. I thought she
Speaker 1: did a beautiful job, a beautiful job. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think a real contribution to the Gilmour Cannon. I don't
Speaker 1: see it as my whole opinion of these episodes has changed.
Speaker 1: You know, some are week better than others. But this
Speaker 1: was just wow, krem de la creme, and actually kind
Speaker 1: of it was almost like, I hate to use the term.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say autopsy of the series or
Speaker 1: a post mortem of the series, but it kind of
Speaker 1: rightfully ended it in a way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like all the loose ends were tied
Speaker 1: up pretty much, except of course you've got this, yeah,
Speaker 1: the cliffhanger, the four words at the end, right which
Speaker 1: opens it all back up again. But I just thought,
Speaker 1: what a delight, and they kept honoring Richard appropriately and
Speaker 1: those were big moments. And I really do like how
Speaker 1: they did the elopement and the wedding, but there's still
Speaker 1: more room for storytelling. I just loved it all. I
Speaker 1: loved it all anyway, I'll shut up you guys chime in.
Speaker 5: I also loved it, and I also realized I hadn't
Speaker 5: watched it in a really long time. I think I
Speaker 5: kind of avoid it because it's like the end, like
Speaker 5: the end, the end, kind of like how Amy avoided,
Speaker 5: you know, the last episode of the series. But what
Speaker 5: stood out to me, and again I agree with everything
Speaker 5: you said, Scott, but I thought the directing, like the
Speaker 5: camera work was so interesting that I actually looked up
Speaker 5: and I noticed it was Amy who directed it, and
Speaker 5: and the camera work was so interesting, the way like
Speaker 5: it would turn or it was like kind of it
Speaker 5: seemed like a handheld I don't know the like terminology of.
Speaker 1: A lot of those shots were on a dolly, which
Speaker 1: is actually like a train track. It's a mini train
Speaker 1: track for yeah, for the platform that the camera sits
Speaker 1: on so you can can it smoothly move And.
Speaker 5: It's like my favorite scene and we'll get to it,
Speaker 5: but was when Rory is alone in her grandparents' house,
Speaker 5: Like that was my favorite scene, just the way it
Speaker 5: was shot.
Speaker 4: Are you talking about how this is the best episode ever?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 5: I wrote out of text to you last night. I
Speaker 5: deleted it because I was like, I need to wait,
Speaker 5: but I was like I needed to know what you
Speaker 5: thought of the just.
Speaker 2: I feel like he redeems it.
Speaker 4: I cannot handle this episode. It was everything I needed
Speaker 4: and then some. And I just wish all four were
Speaker 4: like this because it was so Gilmore Girls in every heart,
Speaker 4: every scene was Gilmore Girls, and I, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm just so happy it ended this way, like so
Speaker 4: thrilled me too.
Speaker 1: Me too. I think it's the you know, it gave
Speaker 1: me this. I mean, it opened up a whole new world.
Speaker 1: It's like, why is an Amy Sherman Paladina writing and
Speaker 1: directing films? I think she likes the immediacy of TV
Speaker 1: and the length and the width and the breadth and
Speaker 1: the depth of the storytelling that she can accomplish in
Speaker 1: a short period of time with TV because she does
Speaker 1: it at such a high level. But what she would
Speaker 1: be a great film director too. Oh, I mean just
Speaker 1: some of those like the shots like Tara, that shot
Speaker 1: of Rory opening up her laptop in Richard's office and
Speaker 1: starting to write her boss. The lighting there, it was gorgeous.
Speaker 1: It was like the beautiful movie shots.
Speaker 4: And there we was there was I feel like every
Speaker 4: loop was closed, Like That's what I loved about it.
Speaker 4: It's just every but then obviously left on a massive cliffhanger,
Speaker 4: but it just felt like we got closure on a
Speaker 4: lot on a loaned mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It was definitely the most cinematic of the four episodes,
Speaker 3: and I have to also, you know, give props to
Speaker 3: the set decoration, Like absolutely, the whole Life and Death
Speaker 3: Brigade thing, I thought that was a little drawn out,
Speaker 3: but visually lighting with it, it was so stunning. And
Speaker 3: then the whole wedding scene that's kind of the Alice
Speaker 3: in Wonderland theme, Like it just was like this magical Wonderland.
Speaker 1: Did not take your breath away. When Rory went into
Speaker 1: the stars Hollow Gazette at night and she was having
Speaker 1: that you know, this felliniesque experience outside with the crow
Speaker 1: talking to her, Yeah, you know all that, and the
Speaker 1: guy going by on a unicycle predicting doom and all stuff.
Speaker 3: It was good.
Speaker 1: It was It was so Italian noir.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of references to other things as well,
Speaker 4: like at the end of should we just jump into it, guys,
Speaker 4: because I feel.
Speaker 1: Like I wrote them down, but I mean that when
Speaker 1: she's inside and then she and then the camera comes
Speaker 1: around and gets a little bit behind her and we
Speaker 1: see three of the Light and Death Brigades coming emerging
Speaker 1: from the mist, it was like, wow, it was so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this again to you.
Speaker 4: I already watched twice. I'm gonna watch it third, fourth, Ye,
Speaker 4: I want.
Speaker 1: To watch it again.
Speaker 5: It was I mean, I have to admit I want
Speaker 5: to watch episode one again, like of the whole series
Speaker 5: right after because I was like, it can't end.
Speaker 4: This was like an hour and forty minutes. It was
Speaker 4: the longest before. It felt like twenty It felt so short.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to explain it. I was just
Speaker 4: hooked and fully invested the whole.
Speaker 1: What a gift, What a gift to the fans, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, what a gift. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: Amy Sherman peld you know, for this brilliant piece of filmmaking,
Speaker 1: brilliant on every level. It's like, as witty as the
Speaker 1: banter she creates, as funny as she can write, as
Speaker 1: dramatic as she can write. She also knows what the
Speaker 1: hell to do with a camera. She knows how to
Speaker 1: move a camera. And it's like, wow, what a what
Speaker 1: a what a talent? My gosh, my gosh. Anyway, should
Speaker 1: we even bother synopsizing? Yeah, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so gosh, there is so much to talk about.
Speaker 3: So we start out. Lorelai is doing wild in air quotes.
Speaker 3: She's got this crazy backpack that is practically a character
Speaker 3: by itself. And then uh, so we see Jason Ritter.
Speaker 3: He's the first park ranger and of course probably most
Speaker 3: people know they work together in Parenthood. There were all
Speaker 3: there were like a lot of connections to Parenthood and.
Speaker 5: It is I think we talked about it. Parenthood had
Speaker 5: just ended because we had May Whitman. Then you have
Speaker 5: Peter Krause in this episode as well, and then.
Speaker 1: She's right, you also had Lauren's assistant. Yes, who was
Speaker 1: who was the whale? Uh in the Whale Museum? Right.
Speaker 3: I recommended the voice immediately because he was in that
Speaker 3: other episode. He was the one that wanted the steel
Speaker 3: cut oats. She's six sometime. Yeah, so lot lots of callbacks.
Speaker 3: So okay, Booker movie, she doesn't have her permit. Oh
Speaker 3: that's right. They were all going to start again the
Speaker 3: next day because the conditions were bad for boot throwing,
Speaker 3: So they all go back to their motel and then
Speaker 3: this is the part that you were talking about, Scott,
Speaker 3: where they're back at the Gazette and first Rory gets
Speaker 3: that message on her computer like this is like pre
Speaker 3: I am I guess she's she's got like the message
Speaker 3: on her computer. Ready says ready, and then the pedal
Speaker 3: the pig runs by, So you already know like, okay, something,
Speaker 3: this is going to be like super literal. There's gonna
Speaker 3: be some sort of fantasy elements here. And then we
Speaker 3: go to the diner scene. I loved the diner scene
Speaker 3: with Jess and Luke and everybody's on their laptops.
Speaker 4: And I said this after the last episode, where is
Speaker 4: Jess and Luke that was missing and I'm finally.
Speaker 3: I told you to stay tuned, Remember.
Speaker 4: You did, and it was a great payoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I love that scene. And you know,
Speaker 3: Luke is all confused and off balance and funny little
Speaker 3: thing about how the vegetable cult kicked out TJ because
Speaker 3: they were two heard and then they have they have
Speaker 3: that nice conversation about Lorelei, you know, what is her
Speaker 3: ultimate intent with you know, leaving town and going out
Speaker 3: on this hike, and so that was that was just
Speaker 3: a great, a great moment between them, and so we
Speaker 3: seen it.
Speaker 4: There was a lot that was in that scene though.
Speaker 4: You you saw that Luke was come to terms that
Speaker 4: with the fact that Laurla may leave him right because
Speaker 4: you know, there was rockiness there and Jess can sniff
Speaker 4: that out like a mile away that something was going
Speaker 4: on with Luke, and Luke just revealed, you know, he
Speaker 4: revealed his biggest fear, that Laura I was going to
Speaker 4: leave him. I thought that was super powerful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was such a role reversal too, because
Speaker 3: in the original series, it was always Luke trying to
Speaker 3: help Jess, and now it's completely the opposite, Like Jess
Speaker 3: is the adult and he's trying to help Luke through
Speaker 3: think through this situation. I really love Jess in that scene.
Speaker 4: And then he like the Internet.
Speaker 1: That was so funny.
Speaker 5: I'll also laugh about bagels split four ways.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, just a great scene all around. And then
Speaker 3: we go back to the motel where laurel I is
Speaker 3: with the other hikers and they're sitting around the fire
Speaker 3: pit talking about their stories. I really liked Lorelei's line
Speaker 3: when they asked her what her story was and she says, oh,
Speaker 3: there's no story, just a punchline like that kind of
Speaker 3: sums up her story, like it how she kind of
Speaker 3: uses humor to push other things away and to put
Speaker 3: up that wall around herself, and it really just in
Speaker 3: her mind, everything just boils down to a punchline. I
Speaker 3: thought that was powerful.
Speaker 4: I didn't even pick that up, but you're right, you're
Speaker 4: very right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And let's see. So they all are talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, they all want to get some insight from this,
Speaker 3: which I think that's just the theme of Wild is,
Speaker 3: you know, everybody wants to get some insight from that height,
Speaker 3: whether it's you know, theoretical or physical. And just like
Speaker 3: we saw in the last scene with Luke talking about
Speaker 3: his fears, now we're seeing Laurel I talking about her fears.
Speaker 3: You know, she thought she had everything figured out and
Speaker 3: now she's not so sure anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, before we got your father's a little behind
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff that I should have shared. While we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Luke and Jess scene. How did how
Speaker 1: did they get the flower on me? Oh? Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was somebody back there. I forget who it was. It
Speaker 1: might have been Robert Lee. Somebody was back there, and
Speaker 1: they poured it on me every take. Gosh, I had
Speaker 1: to try to close my eyes and then they dumped
Speaker 1: it on you, and then I dacked forrassled walkout and.
Speaker 2: Did you have to change your clothes. Hi, everybody, Sorry
Speaker 2: I was late. Hi, I missed you all. Did you
Speaker 2: have to change your clothes and restart the front part?
Speaker 2: They got the flower off of you.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I emerge with the flower on, so I
Speaker 1: always have it on.
Speaker 2: Go back there, okay, because we just hear you okay.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh. I don't think we had to do it.
Speaker 1: I only think we had to do it the one time,
Speaker 1: maybe one or two times. It wasn't knocked right. I
Speaker 1: mean it's like with the with the push in the
Speaker 1: in the water, it's one take. With this was one take.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all easy. It's all easy.
Speaker 2: Ry sort of dryness. I don't know what the like
Speaker 2: right where it is the dry sarcasm of the scenes
Speaker 2: with you and Mila. They always have that sort of
Speaker 2: like there's a sarcasm, there's sort of a it's very understated,
Speaker 2: it's never overacted. And both of you play. I literally
Speaker 2: remember when I was watching Fall, thinking these two are buds, right,
Speaker 2: like you see it in the episode like and I
Speaker 2: want to talk all about Milo in this episode. I
Speaker 2: love Fall, It's my favorite one of all the movies.
Speaker 2: But I because it made me think about the podcast
Speaker 2: episode where we had Milo on the friendship and the
Speaker 2: sort of like bromance between the two of you is
Speaker 2: so obvious. It's obvious in this episode, and it's obvious
Speaker 2: when we had him on just the love that you
Speaker 2: guys have for each other.
Speaker 4: So jealous, I want a bromance with Milo.
Speaker 1: He also looked extra for Buff this episode. He was jazzed, I.
Speaker 5: Think in the in this in the scene in the house,
Speaker 5: I was like, man, he's.
Speaker 2: A real highlight to this episode, and I know, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I missed. The scene at his
Speaker 2: sort of final moment looking in on Rory.
Speaker 4: At it, real emotional.
Speaker 1: The whole episode was like that cried multiple times.
Speaker 2: Really was better this time, Susanne, you were so right
Speaker 2: watching it multiple times because for me when I whatever,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't want to give the end,
Speaker 2: but like I have a total different take on the
Speaker 2: end now than I did eight years ago.
Speaker 1: M hm. And the.
Speaker 2: Writing of the new series in my head where the
Speaker 2: baby is Logan's but Milo is the is the boyfriend
Speaker 2: is just everywhere.
Speaker 4: For me right now, like we have to we have
Speaker 4: to talk about it. I completely disagree. Oh, I feel
Speaker 4: like that was that an actual spin off, Like, no,
Speaker 4: I'm making it up to me.
Speaker 2: To me, the Logan is the baby daddy, but she's
Speaker 2: reconcile with Jess and that is a series. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I am, why do you hate that?
Speaker 4: No, I just I don't think. I think this is
Speaker 4: going to say really weird, but I think Jess is
Speaker 4: too good for Rorri. Now. I don't think he's going back.
Speaker 4: I think he's moved on. I think he's on his path.
Speaker 4: And say that except for the way he looks, I know,
Speaker 4: but it's it's that look that he gave is. I
Speaker 4: will always love her, but we're not meant to be.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I will always love her.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 1: That. I don't know if I got the it's not
Speaker 1: meant to be part.
Speaker 2: See, I agree with you, Scott, I got Yeah, I
Speaker 2: love her and this is fun to speculate.
Speaker 4: I did want to do that on this episode. I
Speaker 4: wanted to speculate on what's next, Like what if if
Speaker 4: there was one more uh year in the life, what
Speaker 4: that would look like?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean with a with a Logan baby and
Speaker 1: being together with Jess. That's history repeating itself, right, That's
Speaker 1: that's Christopher. And then Luke, and it's.
Speaker 2: It's Dean and Jess mirrors it's also Dean and Jess.
Speaker 2: It's like, look, this show doesn't doesn't shy away from
Speaker 2: trying right. It loves a triangle everything in the show,
Speaker 2: which is like a whole psychology of this show. But
Speaker 2: the triangle of Grandma, mother daughter, the triangle of Christopher, Lorli, Luke, Dean, Jesse, Rory.
Speaker 2: Like we had triangles throughout this series, and fans like triangles. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the tale is oldest time. Guys. Wait what did I miss?
Speaker 2: By the way, how far did we get?
Speaker 4: Not that far?
Speaker 1: Not that far.
Speaker 3: We're just coming up to the scene where they were
Speaker 3: the Life and Death Brigade.
Speaker 1: And we were lavishing Fall with excessive praise to the
Speaker 1: point where it all made us sick.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a significant amount of life.
Speaker 2: If you will indulge me, If you will indulge me,
Speaker 2: I agree. Fall is great.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: Fall is great from start to finish. The hair has
Speaker 2: totally improved.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, except from my hair piece. I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 2: It's not great.
Speaker 1: The camera move around at the gazebo and the wedding,
Speaker 1: and that looked like it fell from about ten thousand
Speaker 1: feet and splatted on top of my head. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not terrible.
Speaker 2: It's not terrible that here.
Speaker 1: I really noticed it though the other scene, right it
Speaker 1: looked okay, but.
Speaker 2: That Lauren Lorelei's hair is totally improved back to normal.
Speaker 1: I looked like Earl Shibe, you know, selling paint. It
Speaker 1: was it was. It was bad. Go ahead, all right.
Speaker 2: Zan was.
Speaker 1: Was leading the charge here.
Speaker 3: Great, I was trying to We keep getting distracted though,
Speaker 3: because we keep going off. I mean, that's just what
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 1: We got It's what we do. It's Tangent City. Our
Speaker 1: love for Fall makes us visit Tangent City so often
Speaker 1: now so we have.
Speaker 3: We were talking about how there's so many throwbacks in
Speaker 3: this episode to the original show, and I I realized
Speaker 3: we already missed one of them. And that was at
Speaker 3: the very opening scene where she's got the backpackage. She's
Speaker 3: on the phone leaving a message for Luke and she
Speaker 3: makes a comment about how all parts of the tree
Speaker 3: are edible, and that was from she had a conversation
Speaker 3: with Jess about that when he was cleaning out the gutters.
Speaker 3: And I know that's a pop culture reference. It's from
Speaker 3: her book. I don't we maybe.
Speaker 1: Me?
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 3: So in this scene we have the gorilla masks are back.
Speaker 3: Remember R's in missile encounter with the Life and Death
Speaker 3: Brigade was the girl and the gorilla mask in the bathroom.
Speaker 4: I will say, like with the computer and the pig
Speaker 4: and like all that, I didn't piece it together that
Speaker 4: they were coming back. But then when I saw them,
Speaker 4: I was like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, I need another Life and
Speaker 6: Death Brigade like throw I needed that again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that some people don't love it, which
Speaker 2: I think is look because I saw in the comments
Speaker 2: when we were all talking about the musical that people
Speaker 2: were like, I know, Amy's gonna love this part and
Speaker 2: it's so cringey.
Speaker 4: Whatever, I don't like this.
Speaker 2: Some people don't. I mean that was my inference, if
Speaker 2: that's a word inference, inference inference from their comments, because
Speaker 2: they didn't come out and say it. They said, oh,
Speaker 2: they're gonna like this or they're not gonna like this whatever.
Speaker 2: I love it so much that I YouTube just this
Speaker 2: scene all the time. I love the music, I love
Speaker 2: the dancing, I love the mist, I love.
Speaker 3: The dark miss.
Speaker 2: The way they yeah, the way they're revealed.
Speaker 3: I love her.
Speaker 2: I love that blue coat. I literally have been scouring
Speaker 2: the internet for that blue.
Speaker 1: Right. And it's stuff, it's film, it's cinema, it's actual
Speaker 1: high level cinema or homage to high level cinema.
Speaker 2: Right, fol Dancing with the Stars number.
Speaker 4: We were at the Tata Club a little too long.
Speaker 4: It could have been a little I did. I did
Speaker 4: love it.
Speaker 2: I wanted Matt Zuger and Alexis to learn a full dance.
Speaker 2: I could have stayed longer, Thank you, Scott.
Speaker 4: I just thought I thought dance was so bad.
Speaker 3: They both looked awkward to me, like.
Speaker 1: World class dancers that were hired. How are they going
Speaker 1: to shine? You know?
Speaker 3: I love those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the jokes of their just like astonishing privilege, right,
Speaker 2: just buying this and buying that, and then it ends.
Speaker 3: With my heartbreaking like.
Speaker 2: Rory, It's almost like it's just painful. And even though
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, and even though he's such a cheater, cheater,
Speaker 2: pumpkin eater, I'm so like forgiving of it. And she's
Speaker 2: like they're both wrong, but like it's.
Speaker 1: So right, and you just it takes on, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of what Rory was doing what was going
Speaker 1: on in this is it was taking on tragic proportions
Speaker 1: and it's.
Speaker 4: So well done, so you just want one of them
Speaker 4: so badly to be like can we be together? And
Speaker 4: I feel like Rory gave that her shot by saying,
Speaker 4: are you really going to.
Speaker 6: Marry your debt?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, she tried to go there. She gave it
Speaker 4: the shot that it needed. And I think that's why
Speaker 4: she's so easily able to move on because she gave
Speaker 4: it the shot and realized that it's not happening, that
Speaker 4: that's that that's not happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I want to spend a second on that because I
Speaker 3: always see on comments on social media people say things like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, Logan would have been Logan would have left
Speaker 3: Odette if Rory had asked him to.
Speaker 4: She did then shed, and that to me, that was her.
Speaker 3: Giving him an opening and she said are you really
Speaker 3: going to marry her? That would have been the perfect
Speaker 3: time for him to say something flip like, well, make
Speaker 3: me a better offer or something like that, and he doesn't.
Speaker 3: He says that's the dynastic plan. He to me, that's
Speaker 3: totally a cop out, and you know he's in his
Speaker 3: mid thirties. Now he doesn't have to marry who Mommy
Speaker 3: and Daddy tell him to marry. If he wants to
Speaker 3: be with Rory, he can leave Odette without her telling
Speaker 3: him to, like, he can make that choice, and he doesn't.
Speaker 2: But here's why that doesn't happen. Sorry, I don't want
Speaker 2: to interrupt you.
Speaker 1: Right to withdraw his stock options.
Speaker 3: Well, no, God, he's got the best of both worlds
Speaker 3: right now. He's got his cake and he's eating it.
Speaker 2: So storytelling wise, here's why I think that doesn't happen
Speaker 2: because if he says to her, then I want to
Speaker 2: be with you, we don't have our end of mom
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant. It would be like I'm marrying Logan and
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant. It's just a totally different mic drop. So
Speaker 2: for me, it's all part of this story, right, and
Speaker 2: we're left with a huge cliffhanger essentially. So I think
Speaker 2: the storytelling is because he doesn't say like no, never,
Speaker 2: It's like he sort of gives that answer Susanne. I
Speaker 2: think you said it like that's the plan. That doesn't
Speaker 2: mean yes, he said that's the plan.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean no on Logan's part either. There's
Speaker 1: still storytelling to be had there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you're right, You're right, And then we get
Speaker 2: to this end because the end, everything is leading to
Speaker 2: the end, right, we're heartbroken for her. Oh gosh, I
Speaker 2: clearly he's the daddy, right, Like there's nothing It's never
Speaker 2: been more obvious to me than on this rewatch that
Speaker 2: he is the father. Yeah, but that's why we're left.
Speaker 2: That's why she's so brilliant Amy, because that's why we
Speaker 2: have that moment with Jess of him looking in the
Speaker 2: window and all of us going, oh my god, he
Speaker 2: because otherwise why would Luke say, is that is that over?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's over? And then he looks at her like,
Speaker 4: we'll get into it, and and I do. At the
Speaker 4: end of this, stew want to talk about what we
Speaker 4: all think is coming up, because I think the we'll
Speaker 4: talk about it. The scene with Christopher was very important too.
Speaker 4: There's a lot in there. There's a lot in there
Speaker 4: about Yeah, so we'll get.
Speaker 2: Into this scene scene and then I want to let
Speaker 2: you finish.
Speaker 4: What I love about about this part though, is I
Speaker 4: I actually as a fake, as a as a viewer
Speaker 4: who's been watching this in season one, I have never
Speaker 4: liked Rory. I will be the first person to say
Speaker 4: I have been saying that I loved her so much
Speaker 4: in this scene because she was like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm going to get my own car and I'm going
Speaker 4: to get the hell out of here and I'm going
Speaker 4: to start doing things for myself. And I feel like
Speaker 4: we finally saw the wheels start to turn in her
Speaker 4: brain and this, and I really really love that. I
Speaker 4: don't know, I just got to give like kudos to
Speaker 4: Rory here.
Speaker 6: I just do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And she didn't take the keys and she's
Speaker 1: the keys.
Speaker 4: And she fad and I love that she was like
Speaker 4: I know where I want to write this, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: where is she going to write this? And then we
Speaker 4: get the payoff, you know, like there's oh god, Amy
Speaker 4: is such a freaking genius. All this stuff is just.
Speaker 1: Shows real growth as a character and real maturity as
Speaker 1: as as a character. I mean, it's it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: wonderful to watch.
Speaker 2: Think you also really feel like Amy Sherman Palladino loves
Speaker 2: these characters right, because she did right by them all
Speaker 2: pretty much, except for the one joke that I just
Speaker 2: was like, he doesn't think that's how surrogacy works. But whatever,
Speaker 2: we'll get to that. She really did not other than
Speaker 2: that one line, she really didn't write by all the characters,
Speaker 2: all of them, and I, frankly, we can argue this.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad about how they get married. I thought
Speaker 2: it was beautiful and I'm frank Yeah, so we'll get
Speaker 2: to that. But anyway, Susanne, I wanted to let you
Speaker 2: finish your thought.
Speaker 1: Still have a big wedding.
Speaker 2: They're having a party, the party is not canceled.
Speaker 1: There's more story to be told her. I I completely agree.
Speaker 2: They just needed that they ceremony to be so intimate
Speaker 2: and just when you're and you're like, oh, Michelle's there
Speaker 2: and Lane's there, this is It gives me chills. I
Speaker 2: was so pleased. I was just like, this is and
Speaker 2: that and she's walking through and then to not end
Speaker 2: on that scene that you end on the morning after
Speaker 2: before the big celebration with this bomb drop. But anyway, Susanne,
Speaker 2: keep talking about because I don't want to not acknowledge
Speaker 2: your frustration with logan, even though I saw great meaning
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I made my point. I just was
Speaker 3: saying that, you know, a lot of people think that
Speaker 3: Rory needs to tell Logan to leave Odette and then
Speaker 3: he will be with her. But my point was really
Speaker 3: that he is making a choice to be with Odette
Speaker 3: and not Rory because.
Speaker 4: Of the ball here he got. She was leading him
Speaker 4: to water and he didn't take like she she was
Speaker 4: doing it. I did want to say in this scene.
Speaker 4: It was a callback that I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 4: When she was saying bye to the three was Wizard
Speaker 4: of Oz? Did anybody?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I was literally I was like, this is she
Speaker 4: was saying by the tin man and the lie exactly?
Speaker 4: It was exactly it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dumb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, I did not get that.
Speaker 4: Okay, really maybe watch it, watch it back Amy.
Speaker 2: Just now maybe Susanne, I don't know if you have
Speaker 2: the what she says, but natural when she's saying her yeah,
Speaker 2: I know right where it is now and I'm now
Speaker 2: getting it and the whole you know, I felt, you
Speaker 2: can alsoy one thing really fast and then I'll shut
Speaker 2: the hell up. This scene. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: love it so much because it resonates so much with me.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had that night, that that night with
Speaker 2: the person you love and you're surrounded by these like
Speaker 2: the cool kids, and the whole thing's just firing on
Speaker 2: all cylinders and you love this night, and yet you
Speaker 2: keep looking at your watch because you're like, oh god,
Speaker 2: we only have seven more hours. Oh god, we only
Speaker 2: have six more hours. And I just felt that and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh gosh, that was three nights.
Speaker 1: A week when I lived in New York City. I
Speaker 1: mean that was like.
Speaker 4: I just kind of blew my mind a little bit. Sorry,
Speaker 4: But back to the whole Wizard of Oz thing. If
Speaker 4: you think about uh, Wizard of Oz and Rory and
Speaker 4: this is Dorothy, she's saying goodbye to these you know,
Speaker 4: the line and the tin Man and the Scarecrow, and
Speaker 4: she is going back home, right, So she's staying back,
Speaker 4: saying bye to this like beautiful land of Oz or whatever,
Speaker 4: and is going back home. I feel like that is
Speaker 4: literally what Rory's doing in the scene. She's saying goodbye
Speaker 4: to the Life and Death Brigade but going back home
Speaker 4: to write her book. Like there's a lot of something
Speaker 4: there I don't know.
Speaker 3: And the whole point and we're getting a little bit
Speaker 3: ahead because we're actually not at that scene yet, but
Speaker 3: the whole point in the Wizard of Oz was that
Speaker 3: Dorothy had the power the whole time. She didn't need
Speaker 3: the Wizard, she didn't need to go on this whole
Speaker 3: physical journey. She had the power the whole time. It's
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing with Rory, like she's always
Speaker 3: had that internal power and now she's going to exercise.
Speaker 4: It and go, you know, you, guys, this is so good.
Speaker 4: I can't even handle it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good, so much.
Speaker 3: Before we leave the tango club or the Yeah, the
Speaker 3: tango club, I just wanted to club. So the cigarette
Speaker 3: girl was Amy shrim Palladino's mom. I don't know if
Speaker 3: that or not really, Yeah, And then the other thing.
Speaker 3: I realized this last night for the first time. The room,
Speaker 3: like the physical room at the studio where they shot
Speaker 3: that scene, I realized last night is the same room,
Speaker 3: a different end of it where Luke and LORLEI had
Speaker 3: the I am all in conversation. One end of that
Speaker 3: room was the restaurant where they went on that date
Speaker 3: and said I am all in. And I figured it
Speaker 3: out because when we were on the lot for the
Speaker 3: coffee event back in January, we went in there and
Speaker 3: you were, Scott, you were talking about how yeah, this
Speaker 3: is where we filmed that scene. I took a picture,
Speaker 3: and when I was watching the episode last.
Speaker 2: Night, I'm like, wait a minute, did you go back
Speaker 2: the same stairs?
Speaker 3: And so I pulled up when Rory and Logan are
Speaker 3: standing there like on a balcony and the ceiling is
Speaker 3: really low and they're like leaning over the rail looking
Speaker 3: out at the dancers, and then they go down the stairs.
Speaker 3: I went back and looked at my picture. It's exactly
Speaker 3: the same staircase.
Speaker 1: Does that Did that room seem large enough to shoot
Speaker 1: all that tango club scene?
Speaker 3: Really, the dancing was from a different angle, so the
Speaker 3: dancing may have been in a different place, but when
Speaker 3: when they're coming down those steps, that was in that
Speaker 3: same room as the restaurant.
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of coffee events at Warner Brothers,
Speaker 1: we just had another one to launch the Fall Blend
Speaker 1: and it was eruptive. It was fantastic. I got the
Speaker 1: surprise fifty fans from the tour. It was really great,
Speaker 1: serve them all coffee.
Speaker 2: You can see the videos are so great.
Speaker 1: We had such a good time. Anyway back anyway, so
Speaker 1: I just wanted to.
Speaker 3: Say those two things about the Tango Club so then
Speaker 3: they go to the inn, which, if you look closely,
Speaker 3: that was the Dragonfly. They just repainted it and put
Speaker 3: some furniture in some different places, but the inn in
Speaker 3: New Hampshire that they all go to was the Dragon
Speaker 3: dragon Fly.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And then so then there was after that. They get
Speaker 3: to the inn and they go up to Logan's room.
Speaker 3: Then there was a short quick scene back at the
Speaker 3: motel with Lorelei and her new friends that was just
Speaker 3: kind of filler. They're all coming back out for the
Speaker 3: next round.
Speaker 2: You guys might have already said this, but I was
Speaker 2: happily surprised because in my memory Wild took way too long,
Speaker 2: but it actually doesn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 2: In my memory, I was like, oh, Wild, And now
Speaker 2: I'm like, actually, Wild was fine. It was totally appropriately long.
Speaker 1: And i'll tell you appropriately short. That phone call to Emily, Wow,
Speaker 1: I know, wow, what a performance I know. I mean,
Speaker 1: Gez Chock put that in the top five of of
Speaker 1: Lauren Graham scenes. I mean, that was something that was
Speaker 1: some display of good.
Speaker 3: It was really amazing, and it was it was so real,
Speaker 3: like you could tell the emotion was real.
Speaker 5: I also think Amy and Dan wrote that or Amy
Speaker 5: wrote it so well because you could picture it like
Speaker 5: every like every word she said in that monologue, I
Speaker 5: could like picture Richard and her as a little girl
Speaker 5: and them at the mall and the pretzels, like it
Speaker 5: was just so perfectly explained and it was a beautiful
Speaker 5: story told.
Speaker 4: I literally had chills talking about it. Again.
Speaker 1: That's so great that that Emily has. She just listens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how powerful it was.
Speaker 4: And they just hung up at the end, like there
Speaker 4: there didn't she just knew.
Speaker 2: She just thank you, right, she just thank you for
Speaker 2: telling me.
Speaker 4: And I do love that because I think Emily needed
Speaker 4: that from Lauralai so bad.
Speaker 1: You know, they needed to another major on from that moment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was it was like what she needed back
Speaker 5: at the funeral, that she that's what that's the story
Speaker 5: she wanted at the funeral.
Speaker 4: But she accepted it this time, which I feel like
Speaker 4: in normal Emily what you know, uh, in her normal behavior,
Speaker 4: she would have been like, Okay, Laura, I well you know.
Speaker 2: What, you should have told me this then?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how nice of you to bring this up now,
Speaker 4: you know, like I some kind of backhanded remark. And
Speaker 4: I feel like the fact that she accepted it was
Speaker 4: so beautiful. There was just something really sweet to that moment.
Speaker 1: You know what was beautiful about this entire episode? It
Speaker 1: was completely lacking and correct me if I'm wrong. It
Speaker 1: was completely lacking in what we grew grew very used to,
Speaker 1: which was all of this conflict. It was just it
Speaker 1: was an entire hour and forty minutes of resolution and
Speaker 1: coming to terms and accepting reality and letting things go
Speaker 1: and opening your heart and new horizons opening up and
Speaker 1: getting married, and it was just all a celebration. Uh,
Speaker 1: wonderful style, just wonderful, shockingly great episode, shocking, shockingly great film.
Speaker 2: I agree, it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 3: So then we go back to the scene at the
Speaker 3: end and this is this is where Rory and Logan
Speaker 3: are in bed and she he gives, she gives.
Speaker 2: Unsee that it's a dragon fly. Now I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: can I literally cannot keep going.
Speaker 3: Had this is where the Wizard of Oz moment was.
Speaker 3: Was when they're getting ready to leave the end and
Speaker 3: they have their nice little moment. He puts the hat
Speaker 3: on her, they kiss. Yeah, that was And I'm not
Speaker 3: even a team Logan person, it was.
Speaker 1: I was choked. But I mean, for those four three guys,
Speaker 1: Finn and I'm sorry, the Dames, Sister and Robert, Robert,
Speaker 1: Colin Finn just impeccable work. I mean, it was just
Speaker 1: perfect that the blocking, the timing, the delivery of all
Speaker 1: the lines. It was just the.
Speaker 2: Way that they move is so good but smooth, like yeah,
Speaker 2: they were.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a brilliantly rehearsed Broadway play.
Speaker 2: I totally the five, all five of them, Matt, Alexis
Speaker 2: and then the three guys. They really nail every moment.
Speaker 2: And in my mind, I know it's not like that's this,
Speaker 2: but in my mind it's one long, ongoing shot that
Speaker 2: just never stops that it's just like here they come
Speaker 2: in the mass and out she goes and oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: and into the car and the back of that rumble
Speaker 2: seat and boom, boom boom, and we're in the club
Speaker 2: and it's a damn And to me, it just was
Speaker 2: like the whole thing flowed, like, oh, I just I
Speaker 2: love that scene. I know people there's not but.
Speaker 4: I love magical about the Life and Death Brigade. There's
Speaker 4: just some magic that it just brings to this show.
Speaker 4: Even back in the original series, especially during this this episode.
Speaker 3: It's Yeah, I didn't really care for them in the
Speaker 3: original series because they just to me, they just came
Speaker 3: off like spoiled brats. But in this I loved them,
Speaker 3: Like I totally love the scenes with them.
Speaker 2: I loved them from the start, but I love them
Speaker 2: in this And I love how they dragged in the
Speaker 2: lady from the paper. Yeah they got her all flash light. Now,
Speaker 2: Jackie's saying the scene took a few months to shoot,
Speaker 2: But I don't see how that's possible since the whole
Speaker 2: he guys only shot the whole series for a few months,
Speaker 2: she says, because of schedule.
Speaker 1: I mean they did it intermittently.
Speaker 2: They know, they did it over throughout. They didn't shoot
Speaker 2: it all like shoot a.
Speaker 1: Piece here and a piece there and a piece there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a three and a half month shoot. By
Speaker 1: the way, for all well, Matt.
Speaker 2: Was really a part of this entire four movies, you know,
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like Matt was like Milo, right, It's
Speaker 2: like Matt is really integrated into this whole thing, Like
Speaker 2: I know how at the very end, it's like Lauren Graham,
Speaker 2: Alexis Bludell, Scott Patterson, and Emily Bishop it's like Matt
Speaker 2: really deserved to be right after that, and I know
Speaker 2: you couldn't put him in there, but like he's very
Speaker 2: major in these movies. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then after that, then it cuts back to this,
Speaker 3: the the second attempt to hike the trail, and now
Speaker 3: we see this Peter Krause. Yeah, yeah, as the park
Speaker 3: ranger irritated me a lot.
Speaker 2: Less this time. The first time I was so irritated
Speaker 2: by this scene.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, she forgot her registration or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's just like it just goes on and on. But
Speaker 2: this time I was like, that's kind of fine, and
Speaker 2: I love Peter Krause.
Speaker 1: Was cute.
Speaker 3: Another another Parenthood reference. I always this scene always makes
Speaker 3: me laugh because, like personal story here, my husband is
Speaker 3: a scout master for our Boy Scout Troop. My oldest
Speaker 3: is about to get his Eagle Scout and he goes
Speaker 3: to the meetings. He puts on the boy Scout uniform.
Speaker 3: I tell him he looks like a park ranger.
Speaker 2: And so every time is he's you.
Speaker 3: Know, leaving the to go to the meetings and he's like,
Speaker 3: you know, i'll be back in an hour. I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, park, and oh, it's just kind of that's
Speaker 3: funny in our house. With both of the ranger scenes,
Speaker 3: the physical comedy from Lauren, I thought was hilarious, Like
Speaker 3: she's trying to wrangle this giant backpack and she bends
Speaker 3: over and the whole thing falls over her head. I
Speaker 3: thought those scenes were funny.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of comedic value there,
Speaker 1: a lot of comedic stuff on her own, just with
Speaker 1: a backpack, right exactly, Yeah, yeah, she really pulled it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then uh so then she we.
Speaker 3: See the Halfway House cafe, which is another thing that
Speaker 3: was from Parenthood. Actually when oh really yeah, when I
Speaker 3: can't remember the daughter's name, May Whitman's character when she
Speaker 3: ran away, that was where they found her.
Speaker 2: Par It's a great show, by the way, I don't
Speaker 2: know if aout that. I loved it so good, you'll
Speaker 2: cry like a baby. It's kind of this is Us
Speaker 2: before this is Us. Yeah, watched it could could fly
Speaker 2: because Parenthood locked or whatever. The saying is like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And so this is where where we have the scene
Speaker 3: with the monologue about Lorelai and Richard the mall great moment.
Speaker 3: We just talked about that. Oh, and she talked about
Speaker 3: the one of the movies they watched was An Unmarriaged Woman,
Speaker 3: which was a Kelly Bishop movie, so it was kind of.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Jill Clayburg.
Speaker 3: Jill Clayburg, Wow, I didn't see it. Maybe it's from
Speaker 3: that era. I laughed. When she goes up to the
Speaker 3: cafe and she tries the door knob and it's locked,
Speaker 3: and then she's like, I hate nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing wild.
Speaker 2: These scenes played much better this round than they did
Speaker 2: for me when I watched it eight years ago. It's like,
Speaker 2: all just better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the first time you watch it, you're just
Speaker 3: so thrown off by how different it is, and then
Speaker 3: the second time you're kind of like over that.
Speaker 2: And yes, yes, I.
Speaker 1: Said, that's the first time I've seen it. I wasn't
Speaker 1: thrown at all. I was. I was delighted by it.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for I was so happy for it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And I love this scene like that whole, the whole.
Speaker 3: Lauren was great in this scene. And then the one thing,
Speaker 3: and I don't know that this scene would have been
Speaker 3: the place to put it in, could have gone somewhere else.
Speaker 3: The one resolution I feel like we didn't get was
Speaker 3: any kind of acknowledgment from Emily of her role in
Speaker 3: any of the problems with Laura.
Speaker 1: I oh, I think that's I think that's just at
Speaker 1: this point, that would be cruel.
Speaker 2: I think we're just the I think that's asking to
Speaker 2: be And that's what I said.
Speaker 3: I don't think this scene was the place for that.
Speaker 3: But nowhere in the revival. I just mean, for me,
Speaker 3: that's an unresolved.
Speaker 2: Thing, correct, because she's not going to be different, Like
Speaker 2: it's not like when we see these people again. It's
Speaker 2: not like Emily is just suddenly going to be the
Speaker 2: perfect mother to me. If there was some sort of
Speaker 2: acknowledgment of it, it would just come across trite. The
Speaker 2: most we got was in the we get a little
Speaker 2: we get little glimpses of that, and then I think
Speaker 2: we get a little glimpse of that when she wants
Speaker 2: the money to expand the in But Emily's not going
Speaker 2: to become a different person.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm asking for. I don't want Emily
Speaker 3: to become a different person. I just would have liked
Speaker 3: for her to acknowledge that maybe she made lorealized life
Speaker 3: difficult once in a while.
Speaker 4: I just don't think she would be the person to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like she's not the person to she'd
Speaker 5: throw it under the rug. But I don't think she'd
Speaker 5: ever come and be like it was my fault. I
Speaker 5: just don't think.
Speaker 3: Again, Okay, I.
Speaker 4: Understand what you actually do. Understand what you're saying. I
Speaker 4: think the moment with the phone call did that for me.
Speaker 4: I think it kind of like made them at peace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she says thank you, right, well, she I
Speaker 3: mean she got an apology from Laura I, which is
Speaker 3: basically what that whole call was was, you know, in
Speaker 3: a kind of an apology from Laura I. Well, Carline
Speaker 3: put all that out there, and then Emily said thank you,
Speaker 3: which I guess is all we can expect from her.
Speaker 3: But I didn't feel like she gave anything back to
Speaker 3: Laura I.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I think the most we could expect,
Speaker 1: I think it would even almost be too much, is
Speaker 1: if we knew as an audience that she was beginning
Speaker 1: to start that conversation or she was starting to open
Speaker 1: up a little bit before she even said anything, and
Speaker 1: then stopped herself. Right. I think that's I think that
Speaker 1: stays true to her character. I do. I do agree
Speaker 1: with you though, that it could have been a very
Speaker 1: powerful moment had she done it. But it's like, where
Speaker 1: is she going to do it? When is she going
Speaker 1: to do it, because I think after she loses Richard,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to you know, call her onto
Speaker 1: the carpet and say, apologize for what you've been.
Speaker 2: We got what we could get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, obviously I'm not the writer, so
Speaker 3: I don't know where I would have put it, But
Speaker 3: it just would have been nice to, you know, talking
Speaker 3: about how this whole episode is about resolutions and closing
Speaker 3: the loop.
Speaker 2: And I just would have liked to have just like
Speaker 2: throw me a bone on that, like, just you know
Speaker 2: a lot, I think.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what Laurel. I did it.
Speaker 4: It it.
Speaker 1: Released. She was releasing Emily from any obligation to do
Speaker 1: that in the future because of the intimate nature of
Speaker 1: the and the length of that story and the emotion
Speaker 1: attached to it. And I think that's the reaction gave
Speaker 1: was one of pure delight and relief, and she was
Speaker 1: completely moved and it was all sins are forgiven. That
Speaker 1: that speech was all sins are forgiven on both sides
Speaker 1: and now we can start anew You know, it's like
Speaker 1: maybe the first moment I've ever seen those two, maybe
Speaker 1: before the bad stuff happened when she was fifteen or sixteen,
Speaker 1: where there it was a moment of just utter motherly
Speaker 1: love and open heartedness toward her daughter. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess I just have it different.
Speaker 1: Incredibly and incredibly powerful moment, incredibly and great acting from
Speaker 1: from Kelly. The nonverbal stuff is just the hardest, so great. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: So then we go back to Luke and Laurelai's kitchen
Speaker 3: and the scene where Luke is cooking the steak for this.
Speaker 2: Is such an amazing scene. Scott, you are no good
Speaker 2: in this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I Scott. I'll let you talk about
Speaker 3: the scene because this was probably some of the most
Speaker 3: powerful Luke material in the entire series.
Speaker 1: I think the hard the hard part was on Lauren.
Speaker 1: You know, the difficult part about like when Lauren would
Speaker 1: deliver a speech to me, right, the many long speeches
Speaker 1: she would she would deliver to me, What you don't
Speaker 1: want to do as a scene partner is screw her up, right,
Speaker 1: because you have a little word here and there that
Speaker 1: can often She had.
Speaker 2: Those sort of funny comedy relief moments, right, and and she.
Speaker 1: The balance of it and the timing of it is
Speaker 1: all so crucial so as not to step on what
Speaker 1: I'm saying and keep the momentum going, but also get
Speaker 1: in you know, her intention, which is equally as important
Speaker 1: as the you know, the chunks of dialogue that I
Speaker 1: am saying. And she did it beautifully and it really
Speaker 1: made the scene fly. So it's thank you for the
Speaker 1: nice comments. It was a tough scene to do, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a very emotional thing, but it was easy. It
Speaker 1: was much easier because I knew I had a partner
Speaker 1: who could knows what the shot is that I'm making
Speaker 1: and hits the ball back where I can continue, We
Speaker 1: can continue to volley the ball back and forth. And
Speaker 1: that's what she's also so good at, which is why
Speaker 1: those scenes really pop. So I commend her for being
Speaker 1: so astute and so focused and so concentrated, because you
Speaker 1: really have to focus harder not to trip the other
Speaker 1: actor up when they have volumes of dialogue that they
Speaker 1: have to execute, you know it.
Speaker 2: And they have to be in a certain like mindset
Speaker 2: or place because it's so emotional and you feel like,
Speaker 2: I just thought that scene is so good, and I
Speaker 2: actually her little sort of like moments of it where
Speaker 2: she's kind of being a little bit funny and like
Speaker 2: it's just just so good.
Speaker 1: From thee From a technical point of view, what she
Speaker 1: had to deal with was not get distracted by what
Speaker 1: I was saying, but feel it because she has to
Speaker 1: feel it as the character, but not miss her cues
Speaker 1: because she had a bunch of cues in there where
Speaker 1: she had to throw in a line or a look
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, And it's hard when somebody's you know,
Speaker 1: delivering with with real intensity something coming at you, it's
Speaker 1: easy to get caught up in that and get lost
Speaker 1: and oh shoot, I forgot my line, so sorry, well
Speaker 1: we'll have to do it again. You get that, So
Speaker 1: it's able to split focus within how you're focusing and
Speaker 1: and staying character, but while still being technical. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's incredibly difficult, and she just did such a great job,
Speaker 1: such a boat.
Speaker 5: How many times did you guys have to do that?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? It was a few, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a few. I remember being quite aust after that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know Amy as a director, you know, you
Speaker 1: know she knows which moments are going to be really
Speaker 1: you know, the fireworks moments, and you really want to
Speaker 1: nail those. And I don't know that we did it.
Speaker 1: I think we did three or four takes, five takes
Speaker 1: maybe at the most, because it was going well. I
Speaker 1: remember it was going well right from the beginning. But
Speaker 1: there's always little adjustments and things like that, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's some lighting things. There's always lighting issues and
Speaker 1: that's to be expected. But it went very very smoothly,
Speaker 1: very well that scene. Yeah, yeah, actually fun to do.
Speaker 2: And it's such a nice resolution in that scene, and
Speaker 2: I'm so glad, like that's not the end of the show, right,
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's so cool that you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: what a relief, and then we get to have some fun,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like that was sort of how I know, because at first,
Speaker 3: like the first time you watch it, you don't know
Speaker 3: what she's gonna say.
Speaker 2: You don't know, like here we go again.
Speaker 3: See I'm out of here, like I'm leaving, Like you
Speaker 3: don't know what conclusion she has reached inside her head.
Speaker 3: And so then when she says I think we should
Speaker 3: get married, then you're like, yes, yeah, so yeah, that
Speaker 3: was that was a great scene. And then he's got
Speaker 3: he's still got the same engagement ring and he gives
Speaker 3: it back to her and I thought that was cute
Speaker 3: and he.
Speaker 4: Just had a handy yeah, right there waiting for that moment.
Speaker 1: All right, gang, we're loving Fall so much, we're gonna
Speaker 1: split it up into two because we can't stop gab it.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna bring part one to an
Speaker 1: end and stay tuned for part two. Hey, everybody tell again.
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