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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: When pets have other little friendly pets with them, right,

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Speaker 2: if you have like three or four animals, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: even matter if it's cattle, horses, whatever that you have.

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Speaker 2: If one of them passes, please let the other animals

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Speaker 2: see their buddy that also pass Let them know what happened.

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Speaker 2: Because when the animal is just gone one day, they're

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Speaker 2: constantly looking where's the animalre's the animal, where's my friend,

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Speaker 2: where's my buddy? They understand death, and let them see

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Speaker 2: that their buddy has passed, let them say goodbye, let

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Speaker 2: them know so that they can grieve as well, and

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Speaker 2: then move on to instead of looking constantly. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's got to be the same a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Even though we can understand, okay, Aunt Lulu pass away

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Speaker 2: and we live we're in Antarctica and we won't be

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Speaker 2: able to get back, so you know, we do know this,

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Speaker 2: and they can, you know, kind of move on and

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Speaker 2: then later come back and go to the grave side

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Speaker 2: or wherever. Right, But so we can kind of handle

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Speaker 2: it a little better. But if we get a chance

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Speaker 2: to see that person, that's got to be a big difference.

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Speaker 3: It makes a huge difference. Knni and everything you said,

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Speaker 3: it's exactly correct. When someone passes away, immediate family, whatever,

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Speaker 3: and they need to see the person deceased, whatever that takes,

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Speaker 3: if it's possible logistically because of distance and violence. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: it's difficult. Coast to coast or mid mid country to

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Speaker 3: the east coast or west coast. It's difficult. But in

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Speaker 3: order to accept the person's death, you really need to

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Speaker 3: see the person deceased, and that's that's hard for a

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Speaker 3: lot of people. But if you don't see the person deceased,

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Speaker 3: it's like the dog scenario you just laid out there.

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Speaker 3: They're constantly it's hard for them to accept that. Well,

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Speaker 3: Aunt Ruth actually passed away, but you know, we didn't

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Speaker 3: get a chance to see her. I wish we could

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Speaker 3: have seen her. So make every attempt in your family

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Speaker 3: when someone passes away to have everyone come inted to

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Speaker 3: see the person at the funeral home. And that can

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Speaker 3: be accomplished. The funeral director could make that happen. Whether

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Speaker 3: the person is embalmed or not embombed. They can see

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Speaker 3: the body unembombed. There are ways that it can be

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Speaker 3: done without significantly bothering the person mentally by seeing a

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Speaker 3: body unembalmed. There can be seen embalmed or not embombed,

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Speaker 3: but it's important to see the person passed away and

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Speaker 3: then you can move on with your life. So it's important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what now will you keep saying embalmed or not embalmed?

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Speaker 2: What will the difference look like?

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Speaker 3: Well, the whole embombing process. We could spend three hours

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Speaker 3: be shown to a family. A funeral director will put

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Speaker 3: them on a on a viewing table, cover them up

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Speaker 3: with a sheet, maybe do a little light makeup because

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Speaker 3: the person's going to lose its palor it's going to

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Speaker 3: lose its color as the hours go by, and the

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Speaker 3: funeral director usually wants someone to see the body within

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Speaker 3: a few hours of death, before before the person is

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Speaker 3: either taken to the crematory or buried immediately. So, uh,

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Speaker 3: there's a time factor there, but within a few hours

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Speaker 3: it can be done.

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Speaker 2: But is there like because you had said you can

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Speaker 2: see him bomb or in ball, is there some sort

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Speaker 2: of big difference or it's just it.

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, the emboming process is so so so good. Today,

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Speaker 3: there are many, many different types of fluids that a

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Speaker 1: So if a.

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Speaker 3: Farmer passes away, he's used to being out into the

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Speaker 3: The embalming process is so good in the last ten, twelve,

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Speaker 3: fifteen years. It's incredible how you can give that person

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Speaker 3: It's outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, well, how has the funeral business changed along

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Speaker 3: It's changed to the fact that where society is today,

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Speaker 3: we're so busy. People don't A lot of people do

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Speaker 3: They want to move on and little or no time off.

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Speaker 3: Like we used to have funerals who used to take three,

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Speaker 3: just not the way it is today. Very few people

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Speaker 3: not have a formal, formal funeral service. I find that's

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Speaker 3: and we've changed now because we're in such a hurry.

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Speaker 3: People are in a hurry. Oh they got to get

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Speaker 3: And I find that's kind of sad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I don't know how they

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Speaker 2: you know, I need to take some time here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's exactly right. You need that time. You

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Speaker 3: need a few days to have that settle into your

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Speaker 3: head that this person's actually deceased, to move on, and

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Speaker 3: now your life's going to change because their life is.

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Speaker 3: So I just tell people take time. Take the time.

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Speaker 3: The funeral director will give you the time that you need,

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Speaker 3: whether it's days a week, whatever. But you need that

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Speaker 2: And your work's got to do that too. They need

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Speaker 2: to say, hey, take the time off. You know, hopefully

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Speaker 1: That for you to wells.

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Speaker 3: Most employers County are pretty good that they have that

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Speaker 3: family death, you can have three, four or five days out.

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Speaker 3: But the big trend now is if you read the newspapers,

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Speaker 3: it'll say Joe blow today, no passed away, there's no

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Speaker 3: calling hours and a family will be announcing a service

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Speaker 3: people just they don't have a service, and it's kind

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Speaker 3: of said, we just moved past that person's death. It's

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Speaker 3: hard to accept it. That's kind of the way we

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Speaker 2: The fact that you were in the business for so long.

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Speaker 2: If someone close to you passes, is it easier for

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Speaker 3: To something. I'm always thinking in forensics, you know, how's

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Speaker 3: on them bombed. It may be a little easier for me.

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Speaker 3: We've had family deaths in the last fifteen twenty years.

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Speaker 3: It might be a little easier because I was in

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Speaker 3: we all accept it in different ways, in different ways

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Speaker 2: We're really not prepared for it, though our world does

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Speaker 2: not teach us to be prepared for it. No, I

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Speaker 2: mean that's what I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. A family only experiences of death about

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Speaker 3: one every twenty years. It's an immediate family member. Maybe

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Speaker 3: every twenty years, you might have a family member passed away,

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Speaker 3: and they're usually older people. None you've got the extenuating

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Speaker 3: a twenty year old grandson that dies in the car crash.

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Speaker 3: How do you deal with that. That's a whole different

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Speaker 3: So it's tough, and families just have to stay together,

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Speaker 3: stick together, make the decisions together. Not a time to fight.

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Speaker 3: And I've refereed a few disagreements over the years with

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Speaker 3: and funeral directors end up being referees. It's a tough time.

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Speaker 3: It's very tough time.

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Speaker 2: Love that, oh mercy. Well, what about the donation part

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Speaker 2: of it? In the donor part, and that's a whole thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of families want part of the

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Speaker 3: person donated. You can go online. Now. The nice thing

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Speaker 3: about the internet. We have the University of Rochester as

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Speaker 3: an organ donation program where you can actually donate the

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Speaker 3: Just a word, can I donate my body for science

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Speaker 3: for medical education? They will transport usually the body, the

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Speaker 3: deceased body to the college. They will keep the body

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Speaker 3: for usually about a year. They use it for teaching purposes,

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Speaker 3: places a lot of places around the country to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had an uncle that did that because he

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Speaker 2: a very special, very special man. He was a great uncle.

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Speaker 3: I had at least three or four cases when I

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Speaker 3: So I want to do something, maybe help out young

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Speaker 3: something good to come from his death, and it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very interesting, and that's just donating. That's donating

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Speaker 2: the body as a whole. That's that's totally different than

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Speaker 2: than donating my lungs, my my you know, organs, that's

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Speaker 2: that before it every they even ever come to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's lots of different ways to go, and it's

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Speaker 3: just important that people sit down with the funeral director

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Speaker 3: at the time and say, what are the options here

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Speaker 3: on donations, whether it's a partial donation of organs or bone,

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Speaker 3: and then then cremate and send their cremains back to me.

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Speaker 3: So there's so many different ways to go. But it's

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Speaker 3: something that you really need to talk about some way

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and amazing things that you can do if

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Speaker 2: you talk to the funeral funeral directors as well. My

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Speaker 2: And the funeral I said something about it. I really

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Speaker 2: I want to see my dad. I really would like

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Speaker 2: to have some of his hair. I think they may

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Speaker 2: have even suggested it because I said something about his hair,

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Speaker 2: and I think they said, would you like a clipping,

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Speaker 2: and they went and got me a clip. I think

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Speaker 2: I might have even been right there with him when

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Speaker 2: it happened, and which was It's weird, but I'm so

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Speaker 2: glad I did it. I'm so glad.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people do that kind of don't take

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Speaker 3: a hear or something. If you look through some of

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Speaker 3: the old Bibles from the eighteen hundred, to play a

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Speaker 3: clip of hair if someone will. Yeah, I've seen that

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Speaker 3: many times over the years, and people will take a

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Speaker 3: clip of here as as it's part of the person,

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Speaker 3: it's important to them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I did that with my little doggie too. It's just,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just the way, that's what you do.

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Speaker 2: So Chirogenics, what do you think of that? Uh uh?

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Speaker 3: The business, the death of business that I call it,

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Speaker 3: keeps changing, you know, and there's all kinds of new

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Speaker 3: things coming down the road that I'm not really excited about.

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Speaker 3: I just want a person to be treated respectfully and

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Speaker 3: and that's the important thing for me. And I think

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Speaker 3: some of the new things that are coming up with,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they're really the way that we

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Speaker 3: want to go. But a society is going to go

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Speaker 3: where it's going to go, you know, and we can't

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Speaker 3: change it. It's it evolves every day. Every year, there's

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Speaker 3: new things coming out. So we'll see what are the

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Speaker 3: new things. Well, they have a new system now where

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Speaker 3: instead of being cremated, they put you in the cylinder

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Speaker 3: with a special chemical or two and you're like slash

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Speaker 3: around for a while and how your phones come out.

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Speaker 3: And to me, that's I'm not excited about that at all.

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Speaker 3: I said, you're going to be cremated, cremated, cremate quickly

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Speaker 3: two hours at the twenty one hundred degrees, take the

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Speaker 3: creamins out and either bury them or come back to

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Speaker 3: the family. But some of the new things they're thinking

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Speaker 3: about don't impress me. But I'm going to be seventy

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Speaker 3: six years old, so I'm old school.

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