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Speaker 1: and I've got all the information you're gonna need, and

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Speaker 1: it deals with Vladimir Putin, Ukraine, Zelensky, and Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: As you know, the summit took place on August the

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Speaker 1: the media, of course, using the Sunday morning shows to

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Speaker 1: sources the territorial proposals have been floated. In fact, quote,

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Speaker 1: a potential peace framework is emerging. Putin reportedly offered to

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Speaker 1: withdraw from small areas in southern Sumi and other areas

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Speaker 1: in exchange for larger concessions from Ukraine. However, the ideas

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Speaker 1: remain controversial and unresolved. Notably, Russia wants Ukraine to renounce

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Speaker 1: NATO membership, partially lift sanctions, and acknowledge Russian sovereignty over CRIMEA.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine firmly rejecting these conditions publicly today. But then there's

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Speaker 1: where are we actually compared to the posturing in public? Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the things we are learning about is security guarantees.

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Speaker 1: In a notable development, Putin apparently agreed to allow the

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Speaker 1: US and Europe to offer Ukraine NATO's style quote unquote

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Speaker 1: security guarantees ach into Article five protections. That is a

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Speaker 1: historic shift in Russia's posture. Now there is no agreement yet.

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Speaker 1: Despite Donald Trump calling the talks productive and the media

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Speaker 1: Marco Rubio had to say. He was on face the

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Speaker 1: Nation Democrats saying that Donald Trump got played by Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 3: It's absurd.

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Speaker 2: They weren't in the room.

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Speaker 1: No he didn't, But there's nothing to say that that's

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Speaker 1: Of course, the media is running with it because that's

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Speaker 4: If if Vladimir Putin is going to be offered land

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Speaker 5: Well, Putin's already sees land by force and not in

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Speaker 5: and of itself, is not a positive precedent this whole

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Speaker 5: any negotiation. No, no, but if, But this is not about accepting.

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Speaker 5: That's called the end of the war through surrender and

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Speaker 5: It may not, it may maybe dis taste, but in

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Speaker 5: unreasonable request. That's something needs to be worked on. Territories

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Speaker 1: Think about what Marco Rubio just said there. He says

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Speaker 3: You like it or not.

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Speaker 4: Asking about the security that you just mentioned there, because

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Speaker 4: Italy's Prime minister says that President Trump provide the idea

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Speaker 4: of security guarantees inspired by NATO's Article five and a

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what we're going to be working on.

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Speaker 5: That's one of the reasons why you know, I talked

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Speaker 5: That's why they're all coming here tomorrow, and that's why

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Speaker 1: Here we're gonna be working right Notice how he's like,

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Speaker 1: we have things to work through. There's no way everything

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Speaker 1: You think about their definition of success. It was an

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Speaker 1: would rather him fail then stop the senseless killing around

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Speaker 1: the world. Here's something else that also, Sender Rubio said,

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Speaker 6: Sam any concessions that Vladimir Putin made during this meeting.

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Speaker 6: Has he any prog have any concession in your program?

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Speaker 7: Why would I do that?

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Speaker 3: Where is the question?

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Speaker 5: Because you can't have a piece agreement. Now, you can't

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Speaker 5: have a peace agreement unless both sides give and get.

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Speaker 5: You can't have a piece agreement unless both sides make concessions.

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Speaker 5: That's a fact, that's true, and virtually any negotiation. If not,

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Speaker 5: it's just called surrender. And neither side is going to surrender.

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Speaker 5: So both sides are going to have to make concessions. So,

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Speaker 5: of course concessions were asked. But what utility would there

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Speaker 5: we've wagged our finger at Putin and told them you

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Speaker 3: two and almost immediately thereafter invaded. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: it's not just me saying this, give a listen to

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Speaker 3: Putin saying this same point. Which is that the war

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Speaker 3: in Ukraine would never have happened if Trump had been

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Speaker 3: president in twenty twenty one. Give a listen.

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Speaker 10: I'd like to remind you that in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 10: during the last contact with a previous administration, I tried

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Speaker 10: to vince my previous American colleague should not the situation

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Speaker 10: should not be brought to the point of no return

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Speaker 10: when it would come to hostilities, and I said it

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Speaker 10: quite directly back then.

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Speaker 3: That's a big mistake.

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Speaker 10: Today when President Trump saying that if he was the

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Speaker 10: president back then, there will be no more and I'm

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Speaker 10: I'm quite sure that it would indeed be, so I

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Speaker 10: can't confirm that. I think that overall, me and President

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Speaker 10: Trump have built a very good, business like and trustworthy contact,

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Speaker 10: and I have every reason to believe that moving down

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Speaker 10: this path, we can come and the suited better to

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Speaker 10: the end of the conflict in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he said it there.

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Speaker 1: I also think you said it because he's probably messing

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Speaker 1: with our media a little bit, which I love. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you guys are idiots and you're wrong, and if you

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Speaker 1: knew what was actually going on, you tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty bad when even Putin knows how to just

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Speaker 1: call out the media.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, and and the media actually behaves like Pravda, behaves

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Speaker 3: like the Soviet media, except they they pitched the hard left,

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Speaker 3: pullit borrow line, and so as a result, they blame

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Speaker 3: everything on President Trump. But understand, Joe Biden, the Democrats

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Speaker 3: caused wars. They caused the war in Ukraine, and I

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Speaker 3: believe about Biden's weakness caused the war in Gaza, caused

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Speaker 3: October seventh. Uh And the world is safer, We have

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Speaker 3: fewer wars when we have a strong commander in chief

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Speaker 3: and President Trump is working, I think, very hard to

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Speaker 3: end this war. Now, one big question is is Zelenski

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Speaker 3: willing to make a deal. And President Trump had some

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Speaker 3: very straightforward advice to President Zelensky. Give a listen, what's your.

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Speaker 7: Advice is to make a deal.

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Speaker 3: Make the deal.

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Speaker 7: Got to make a deal.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Look, Russia is a very big power, and they're not

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Speaker 8: They're great soldiers and they have great but you know.

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Speaker 7: They also had the best equipment. You know, they had

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Speaker 7: our equipment, and I gave them javelins.

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Speaker 8: If you remember my first term, in fact, it was

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Speaker 8: a statement I gave javelins. You remember the statement I

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Speaker 8: gave javelins and Obama gave because it was Obama at

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Speaker 8: that time.

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Speaker 7: Obama gave them sheets. And that's true.

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Speaker 8: I gave javelins, and a lot of tanks were knocked

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Speaker 8: out because.

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Speaker 7: Of the javelins. The javelins incredible weapon. It's a tank.

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Speaker 8: You know, you look at this big, powerful tank, it

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Speaker 8: ends up being a ball of metal lying on the

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Speaker 8: ground and burning. I'd never say anything like it. We

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Speaker 8: have the greatest military equipment in the world. But they

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Speaker 8: did have courage in fighting, and you know, they're fighting

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Speaker 8: a big war machine.

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Speaker 6: And we.

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Speaker 7: I think are close to a deal, but I won't.

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Speaker 7: I don't like saying it. I always say if I'm

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Speaker 7: really close, I say fifty to.

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Speaker 2: Fifty, fifty to fifty, right. I love how he says that.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, Look, and this was President Trump also made

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Speaker 3: clear that Biden is the one who screwed this up,

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Speaker 3: and he's coming in now and he's trying to fix

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Speaker 3: the mess that Joe Biden, the Democrats weakness caused. Here's

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to Donald Trump in Anchorage, Vladimir repruitin

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Speaker 1: right next to him and talking about how Joe Biden

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Speaker 9: Nineteen eighty six, Reagan walks away from Raykovic with Gorbachev

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Speaker 9: and it was a strong moment. I mean, you could

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Speaker 9: up and walk away.

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Speaker 7: I'm not doing it based on history, based on anything else.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing it based on a deal. If we make

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Speaker 7: a deal, great.

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Speaker 8: If I see that there's no hope of making a deal,

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Speaker 8: I'm out of there.

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Speaker 2: It's over.

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Speaker 3: I'm out of there.

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Speaker 7: This isn't my war, this is Biden's war.

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Speaker 8: This is Biden screwed this up, just like he did

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Speaker 8: with Afghanistan, with that horrible retreat, and of the way.

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Speaker 3: He did it.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. He'll never forget it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and neither will the the soldiers and sailors and

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Speaker 3: airmen and marines who fought in Afghanistan, who bled, who

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Speaker 3: lost brothers and sisters there, every veteran of that war.

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Speaker 3: Biden's disastrous with retreat is indelibly marked under their conscious.

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Speaker 1: Final question for you on this, if you were meeting

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Speaker 1: with Zolensky about getting this deal done, what would you

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Speaker 1: say to him? What would your advice be, and and

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Speaker 1: how would you see this thing ending if you could

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Speaker 1: do it your way?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, my advice would be the same as as

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Speaker 3: what President Trump's was, which is make a deal. It's

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Speaker 3: got to be a negotiated settlement. So Lincy's not going

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Speaker 3: to get everything he wants. But it is important that

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Speaker 3: that Ukraine have an outcome where their security is protected.

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Speaker 3: And that's one thing that that's one thing that is striking.

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Speaker 3: Putin acknowledged that that was a real concession that Putin

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Speaker 3: said there needs to be an outcome where Ukraine's security

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Speaker 3: is protected. I also think it is important that the

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Speaker 3: resolution of this continues to leave nord Stream too shut down.

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Speaker 3: When I'm meeting with with our European allies, and I

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Speaker 3: do so frequently, a question I posed to them over

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Speaker 3: and over again, as I say, listen, when the war

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Speaker 3: in Ukraine ends, who are you going to buy your

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Speaker 3: energy from? Are you going to buy your energy from

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Speaker 3: Russia or are you going to buy it from the

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Speaker 3: United States? Because I would like to see a resolution

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Speaker 3: to this war that is America first, that puts America first.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see Europe buying their energy from US

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Speaker 3: and not enriching Putin. And so that's an outcome that

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Speaker 3: I think is very much in America's view. But I

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Speaker 3: want you to listen to Putin I want you to

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Speaker 3: listen to Putin acknowledging the importance of an outcome that

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Speaker 3: protects the security of Ukraine.

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Speaker 10: Give a listen, and I agree with President Trump as

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Speaker 10: he has said today it naturally the security of Ukraine

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Speaker 10: should be insured as well. Naturally we're prepared to welcome that.

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Speaker 10: I like to hope that the agreement that we've reached

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Speaker 10: together will help us bring close to that goal and

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Speaker 10: will pay the path towards peace from Ukraine. We expect

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Speaker 10: that Kiev and European capitals will perceive that constructively and

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Speaker 10: that they won't throw a ranch in the words.

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Speaker 2: Two things there.

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Speaker 1: One, he says it clearly the security of Ukraine should

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Speaker 1: be insured. Now I think this goes back to trust

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Speaker 1: but verify, right, But at least he's saying that.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. We should not take Putin at his word for that.

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Speaker 3: But it's better that he says it then than he doesn't,

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Speaker 3: and then you hear him at the end.

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Speaker 1: It does seem to be that he's is talking in

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Speaker 1: a way you would talk if you're winding things down.

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Speaker 1: I think you have to read into that a little

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Speaker 1: bit and say, okay, this is not a thing either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, if he was hell bent on continuing the

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Speaker 3: war and trying to conquer all of Ukraine. He wouldn't

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Speaker 3: say we need to ensure that the security of Ukraine

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Speaker 3: is protected now. He also said and that the Europeans

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Speaker 3: shouldn't throw a wrench into it. And one of the

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Speaker 3: real questions is is there have been some in Europe,

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Speaker 3: and there have been a number of Democrats who've advocated

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Speaker 3: that Ukraine be a member of NATO. I think that

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Speaker 3: would be a real mistake. I've been vocal opposing that.

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Speaker 3: President Trump has been explicit he opposes that. And the

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Speaker 3: reason is NATO. Under Article five of NATO, when a

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Speaker 3: country becomes a member of NATO, the other members take

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Speaker 3: an obligation to defend it in the case of war.

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Speaker 3: And I have zero interest in putting American troops in

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Speaker 3: harm's way defending Ukraine. And and so I think inviting

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Speaker 3: Ukraine to NATO would be a bad mistake. President Trump

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Speaker 3: has made that clar and I think that's what Putin

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Speaker 3: was saying there as well, is that that would do

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Speaker 3: real damage to the prospects of peace. And so I'm

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Speaker 3: glad that President Trump has taking that off the table.

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