1 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Unexplained Extra with me Richard McClean Smith, where 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: for the weeks in between episodes we look at the 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: stories that, for one reason or other, didn't make it 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: into the show. In last week's episode, Into the Abyss, 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: we fell headlong into the seemingly never ending mystery of 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: the Oak Island Treasure Pit. The hunt for what some 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: have claimed to be the lost treasure of pirate Captain 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: William Kidd is widely considered one of the most famous 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: treasure hunts of all time. We might also say that 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: what has played out on that island in the one 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty odd years since the pit's discovery is 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: nothing less than the story of humankind, of land and 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: lives destroyed on a promise of riches. The beguiling Oak 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Island Mystery put me in mind of another much publicized 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: as your Hunt, of an eminently more gentle variety, though 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: it is a story no less interesting because of it. 17 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: It began in nineteen seventy six with a request from 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: publishing agent Tom Maskler to the then thirty year old 19 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: artist Kit Williams to put together a picture book. Though 20 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Williams was open to the idea, he didn't want to 21 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: create something that would just be flipped through by the reader, 22 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: with his art being treated as something incidental, and so 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: he hashed a plan. He accepted Mascula's offer on one 24 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: condition that he be allowed to do something that no 25 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: one had done before. Over the next few years, Williams 26 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: developed the story and set to work on the sixteen 27 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: paintings that would help to tell it. He gave it 28 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: the title Masquerade. After completing the material, Williams, also an 29 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: expert metal worker, retired to his craft studio, whereafter tinkering 30 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: away for a few days, he crafted an ornate pendant 31 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: made of eighteen carrot gold, fashioned into the shape of 32 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: a hare and adorned with ruby, turquoise and mother of pearl. 33 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: This was to be the center of his plan. Once finished, 34 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: the pendant was set into wax to preserve it before 35 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: being deposited in a ceramic bowl, on which was written 36 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: the words I am the keeper of the Jewel of Masquerade, 37 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: which lies waiting safe inside me for you or eternity. 38 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Some time later, one night in the summer of nineteen 39 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: seventy nine, Williams and a friend drove out to a 40 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: secluded patch of England where under the light of the moon, 41 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: they dug a small hole. Into this, the hare, encased 42 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: in its ceramic container, was deposited and covered over with earth. Finally, 43 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: on the eve of publication a few days later, Williams 44 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: made the enigmatic announcement to the world that contained within 45 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: the pages of his new book were all the clues 46 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: any reader would need to find the location of the 47 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: buried treasure. The story of Masquerade was a simple one. 48 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: It told the tale of a hare called Jack, who 49 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: was given a golden ornament by the Moon to deliver 50 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: as a gift to the Sun. Only when Jack reaches 51 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: the Sun, he discovers he has lost the ornament. It 52 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: was down to the reader to find it again. However, 53 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't in the text so much that the clues 54 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: were hidden, but rather among the sixteen exquisite paintings that 55 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Williams had created, meaning, as had been his plan all along, 56 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: readers would be forced to study his work like never 57 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: before in order to crack the code. On the first day, 58 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: the book sold fifty thousand copies, sending the publisher into 59 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: a spin as they tried to keep up with demand. 60 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: The following day, it was another fifty thousand copies, and 61 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: by the end of the week a quarter of a 62 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: million copies of the book had been sold, and not 63 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: long after came the letters. Are you always taking care 64 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: of your family? Do you often take care of others 65 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: and not yourself? Now it's time to take care of yourself. 66 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: To make time for you. You deserve it. 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Soon he was receiving thousands of letters 84 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, but whether he got back to 85 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: readers or not, it did little to stop the more 86 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: adventurous from putting their theories to the test, with some 87 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: traveling from as far as Japan, Germany and the United 88 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: States in the quest to uncover the hair. Some even 89 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: turned up at William's door begging him for more clues, 90 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: but as the months went by, some grew skeptical that 91 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: there was even a puzzle to be solved, or that 92 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: at the very least, there would be no treasure to 93 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: be found at the end of it. Publisher Tom Maskler 94 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: received one letter from a reader convinced he had uncovered 95 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the ruse, believing there was no such person as artist 96 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Kit Williams since his name was an anagram for I 97 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: will mask it. It was over two years later when 98 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Williams's wife Elaine, headed downstairs one morning to collect the 99 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: latest batch of posts in amongst the bills and the 100 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: mound of letters from people who regularly wrote in she 101 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: came across one envelope that was unlike any of the others. Intrigued, 102 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: she took it upstairs and handed it to Kit to open. 103 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Inside he found a letter, as well as a series 104 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: of small sketches, including one of a monument underneath which 105 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: they had drawn across. Kit recognized it as the place 106 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: where he had buried the treasure. Using the phone number 107 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: that had been included, Kit Julie gave the mysterious reader 108 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: a call. Moments later, he was speaking to a softly 109 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: spoken man with a croaky voice, who introduced himself as 110 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: Ken Thomas. Although Kit was relieved that the puzzle had 111 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: finally been sold, he was a little disappointed to discover 112 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: that Ken had apparently only managed to partially solve it 113 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: before he found the location. Perhaps more unexpected. However, he 114 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: didn't even seem that happy that he had done it, 115 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: being reluctant as he was to go back to the 116 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: site and dig up the hair since he was suffering 117 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: from a slight cold. As for the puzzle itself, Kit 118 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: believed he had set it up in such a way 119 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: that it was virtually impossible to solve it without all 120 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the information. If anything, it was almost impossible either way. 121 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Each of the books sixteen pictures were formed of a 122 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: central picture bordered by a cryptic set of words, some 123 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: letters of which were painted red or had a line 124 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: drawn across them. Selecting each of these letters would reveal 125 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: two more words. In each of the pictures were also 126 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: to be found the image of a hair, often hiding 127 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: within it, as well as a number of other animals. 128 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Some pictures also included number sets, and all were covered 129 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: in symbolism, where even the positioning of limbs could have 130 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: a double meaning taken in its entirety. These clues, of 131 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: which many were red herrings, did provide significant hints as 132 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: to the location of the treasure. But the big piece 133 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: that most failed to work out was that by drawing 134 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: a line from the eye of any living animal depicted 135 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: in a painting through its corresponding hands and feet would 136 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: reveal another set of words. Taken together, they gave the 137 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: phrase Catherine's long finger overshadows, earth, buried, yellow, amulet, midday 138 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: points the hour in light of equinox. Look You. Then, 139 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: by taking the first letter of each word, you found 140 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: another line close by Ampthill, a market town in the 141 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: County of Bedfordshire in southern England. Ken Thomas had done 142 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: none of this. Instead, he claimed to have first deduced 143 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: that the location had something to do with King Henry 144 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: the Eight's first wife, Catherine of Arragon, before later hitting 145 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: upon the town of Ampthill from other clues in the book. 146 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: On a whim, he had traveled to the town one 147 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: morning with his dog and ended up walking in Ampthill Park, 148 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: a large country estate on the edge of the town. 149 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: It was here that his dog ran off ahead towards 150 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: a cross monument, where it promptly urinated. When Thomas caught 151 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: up with it, he found, to his surprise that the 152 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: monument was dedicated to Catherine of Arragon. Realizing he had 153 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: found the location of the Golden Hair, he promptly wrote 154 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: his letter and sent it off to Williams. Thomas would 155 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: eventually claim his prize in March nineteen eighty two, and 156 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: later meet Williams and some photographers in Amphill Park for 157 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: a series of publicity shots. However, eager to maintain his anonymity, 158 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Thomas strangely wore a disguise throughout and that as bizarre 159 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: as it sounds, was that, or so it was thought. 160 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Five years later, in nineteen eighty four, a computer game 161 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: called Hair Raiser was released onto the market. Only it 162 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a game as such, but a treasure hunt, whereby 163 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: the treasure was the same golden hair that had been 164 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: found by Ken Thomas five years previously. The game's creators, 165 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: Dougald Thompson and John Guard, claimed to have come into 166 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: possession of the pendant a few years earlier and decided 167 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: to use it again for their own venture. The game, 168 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: which was sold in two parts at almost five times 169 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: the value of the original book, was composed of a 170 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: series of static screens showing a variety of images and 171 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: occasional text. It soon became clear to those unlucky enough 172 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: to have purchased it, however, that the puzzle was probably unsolvable, 173 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: and as a result, the game failed to sell. The 174 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: existence of the prize, however, was genuine enough, although rather 175 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: than giving it to a lucky winner, Thompson and Guard 176 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: were forced to have it sold at Sotherby's auction house 177 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight when their company went into liquidation. 178 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: It would eventually sell for thirty one thousand pounds equivalent 179 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: to eighty thousand pounds today. And then in December that year, 180 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: something unexpected came to light. Although it was thought that 181 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: a man called Ken Thomas had successfully discovered Kit Williams's 182 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: golden hair, in truth there was no Ken Thomas. Thomas 183 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: was in fact dugal to Thompson, the maker of Hair Raiser, 184 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: as revealed in a Sunday Times expose. As it turned out, 185 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: his business partner, John Guard's girlfriend, Veronica Robertson, had once 186 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: been Kit Williams's girlfriend. More to the point, she had 187 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: been his girlfriend when he conceived the puzzle for Masquerade 188 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: and knew roughly where the treasure was buried. Robertson was 189 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: convinced by Guard to give up the location on the 190 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: promise that he would donate the treasure to an animal 191 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: rights charity. He did no such thing. Kit Williams was 192 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: understandably devastated when he heard the news, as were two 193 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: young physics teachers, Mike Barker and John Rousseau. Barker and 194 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Rousseau were the only people to successfully solve the puzzle 195 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: in its entirety, and had traveled to Ampthill only days 196 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: before Dugald Thompson went looking for the hare, only to 197 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: miss uncovering it by inches. In fact, Thompson later said 198 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: it was only because of Barker and Rousseau's dig marks 199 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: that he realized he was looking in the right place. 200 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: Next week's episode twelve will be the final episode of 201 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: season three. However, we will return in mid November twenty 202 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: eighteen for season four. If you enjoy listening to Unexplained 203 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: and would like to help support us, you can now 204 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: go to Unexplained podcast dot com forward slash support. All donations, 205 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: no matter how large or small, are massively appreciated. 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